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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Spoiler yeah, man, the letdown.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We've been nominated in a long time. Man, ever since
we joined this, Fox do the math right, I know
what the common denominator is here.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We weren't like the little engine that could anymore. They're
just like, oh that's cool.
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They're like, oh, we nominated you once and now you
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Speaker 2 (01:46):
Thanks. I got a dope shirt on too.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh thanks, man, this is this is our shirt. At
least I'm representing us and that some has been golf podcast.
I'm kidding, man. I love swinging and ding dude. We
were talking about outing the other day. I cannot wait
for that again. So dope, it's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's amazing to see all those companies come together raise
money for the Meal of Foundation. But also like, yeah,
it's the Masters are in town, dude, so that's why
they wearing show. You know, it's time to swinging and
ding it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
They suspended the Masters to Hello brother, did you see
that whole? Did you say he said hello friends? Have
you seen that trend?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Man, we'll talk about it tarly, but uh, Masters suspended
due to darkness. Gonna pick up at ten to eight
tomorrow morning. Uh. Dis Chambeau in the lead right, now Tiger, Yeah,
tied for seventeenth. When do we stop? So did he
finish eighteen?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because he went off at three forty five trying to
do like he's through thirteen, So he's I think I think.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
He's through thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, he's around there. You don't gotta be precisely Tiger.
Would It would be great if you had to like
sleep there like on that whole Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Through thirteen, play suspended, dude to darkness. It's gonna resume
Friday morning. When do we stop rooting for Tiger? Like
he looks okay, you know he's he's under he's minus one.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
When somebody takes over the sport the way he did,
that's the answer, because I mean, that's right, that's why
he's still around. Because it's like Lebron replaced Jordan in
a lot of I get that you say that, but
but talk to your talk to the kids you educate.
They know Lebron, you know Jordan's You know.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What's funny is the kids I educate, even Lebron's too
old for them, they're all Steph and okay, that's fine,
you know, Harding and all.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's like us with Kobe, like we're too old for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Too young, we're too little, too young for does that
what you mean? I mean the Jordan was our elementary.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, too young, you're too young for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And then you know Kobe took us through ice great shack,
absolutely shack shack. Was there shots?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
How I beat Little?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I just think it's, you know, it's that nice fairy
tale that we want to see that Tiger Woods come
and he wins, and then it's not It's not gonna happen.
Guess what if he wins, It's not like he's gonna
be the ride into the darkness and say I'm done
with this.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, because he would have done that tonight. He would
have rode in the darkness.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Had no choice.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But everybody put out your cell phones, like is that
back of vans.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Line up the fairway with cars and put your headlights on. Guys.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I would have been and would have been great.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Uh, it's looks.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I want my Tiger Woods.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I want to root for him. I do. I'm just
tired of being disappointed Tiger.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, he did look good today, though. I pictured my
Tiger in a tuxedo T shirt playing from Row, playing
from and.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm like Hammer drunk. I mean, look, man, he's made
a great living muff of this stuff. And as long
as he's still I'm gonna do the mother answer. As
long as he still likes the plane, enjoys himself, then
I just hope everybody has a good time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well that shows like because because he was on the
same trajectory, like obviously way more trends. He did so
much more for his sport. But like him, and he
gave me juter vibes until he had like all these
mishaps in his life.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You mean the whole uh, like the situation.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, but before all that situation, even that, like
the mug shot where he's like his eyes are barely open.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And that was under pain meds his car. That was
that was all after the affairs. Then he heard himself
and he was all tripped up on pain meds and
he got pulled over. But he thought he was drunk.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was just lost his dad though too that He's had.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Some bumps in the road, definitely, But he you know,
he's just he's he's human.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
We all are.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
He's a human, except for you robots out there watching. Yeah, dude, seriously,
damn robots. How there it is I don't want to
say it all loud. That's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's number to be a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It actually was. Yeah, we uh this is the second
time around. Guys, we were muted the first time, which
some of you might wish we were muted. Right now,
let's get into baseball, because that's a part of the
reason why we're even on this UH radio station to
begin with. Anyway, all right, for the most part, we're
about eleven twelve games in Yankees, UH and Dodgers first
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teams to ten respectively for the American and National League, Braves,
Phillies and Mets, even the Nats. Guys, everybody but the
Marlins tight race. I mean, I know the season just
kicked off, but the Mets stuck it to the Braves today.
That was great to watch. And then you had Phillies
who ended up beating Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, who
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cares if you have that button ready. But don't get
me wrong, I mean that they're playing well. Do you
know the problem with Philly's offense?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Mike, No, you want.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
To guess what is your Do you have any theories
on why? I mean with their lineup, you don't want
to say they're they're struggling to be as explosive as
they were last year. And there's one Philadelphia, Philly that
says Trey Turner, No, no, Nick Castellanos himself.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Might have changed today.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Uh. So basically he says that the reason they're they
have this slow start or not as explosive is they're
trying to be more disciplined at the plate. But Philly
rob so, there's a fine line between being disciplined and
just being scared to take chances.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's fair, that's fair, like the uh and that's happened
in New York in Queens where like the analytical department
takes over and like you have to sometimes like the
moment to catch and if you're just playing off the
back of a baseball card and hoping that the analytics
are there, one, yeah, it's just not the way you win.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm glad you brought that. Brought that up, my friend,
because you're absolutely right, dude, analytics are great for baseball.
You know everybody can go don't watch it. I mean
you could watch it because it's a good movie, but
go read the book Moneyball. It's fantastic. Bill James I mean,
he really he brought numbers into this game that people
weren't looking at. But now you have these teams that
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are too focused on the numbers and they think that
that equates the plate discipline and they think if they
start chasing and chasing and chasing and those numbers drop,
I mean the Phillies are now doing it. I think
what they're doing is they're looking at their past two
seasons by the number and seeing on what they need
to improve on, and they're all like, we gotta be
disciplined at the plate.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We gotta do this, we gotta do that.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And now they're concentrated, constantly concentrate on this number. This
number needs to go up. It needs to go up
and needs to go up, and it's making them stiff
at the plate. Yeah, and they're not loose, they're not
swinging there there. They're just being overly cautious and they're
in their own heads.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No, if you think about every time the Phillies have
gotten deep into the playoffs, with the exception of probably
two thousand and nine, they're always the underdogs. And what
I mean is like they're ranked third and then like, yeah,
I got like Jimmy Rollins going we're the team to beat,
and we're like, Okay, that's cute, like you know what
I mean. And then they are because they're they're playing
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with house money. Like now, if you're trying to be like, oh,
we are the team, like, it's a lot harder to
have that target one teams that normally wouldn't show up
show up, and two like, yeah, you're overthinking. So I
think they're like, oh, how can we get to the
next level?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, And this is one season where for the most part,
they came in brand news everybody healthy. So now they're
I mean, don't guys, we are twelve games in. I
don't care if you were zero to twelve at this point,
like it's nothing to even remotely start to worry about
here and really dive to deep or even celebrate or exactly.
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But you know, it's I think you're right. I think
they came in healthy. They they are scratching their heads
like we we you know, why aren't we picking up
where we left off? As if there wasn't a span
of six months between the time you guys stopped plants,
maybe four months between the time you guys stop playing
and when you picked it up again. So you guys
got you. Everybody's got to click together too well.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Also, like, uh, you've heard it, Like even the Braves
are overthinking themselves. Just saw sixteen to four to the Mets.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
With only two home runs, I mean the multiple RBIs
in each home run.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But they were they were talking about how like maybe
winning the division is hurting them because then they get
that week off and then they can't get it back together.
So they're like, maybe we should win a wild card.
It'd be easier that way, Like and it's just it's
ridiculous to even think that.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Nobody has the goal with winning the wild card.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But that's a conversation. That's a conversation that now the
Braves are having within themselves mentally, and they're telling the
press about it. So and it's just, uh, so, yeah,
I think it, like honestly in a lot of ways,
Like right now, the Mets, if they could string it together,
figure it out, maybe pick up a couple of pictures,
like starting pitchers, like we could be the Phillies of
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two years ago. And I'm cracking up because it's just
the other two were just in your head and I
never realized that until we're having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now, it's just wild because it's it's like to that's
to the average person, that makes sense, right, we say
it all the time. We're like, oh, you need a
scrappy team. They're gonna go Philly was that scrappy team.
It's fun years ago, three years and it's just like
that's that's such a stupid mentality. But like you said, now,
it's all right, it's in your head. But it's that's
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all it is, is in your head. If you're that
top seed and someone limps into the wild card and
then you have to play them, it's like, oh, man,
this team's got momentum. This team's but like you guys understand,
momentum is not a I mean, it's a real thing,
but it's not something that you're looking at on paper.
Like the stats are still.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
As good as today's starting pitcher exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Their momentum means nothing when you're starting a new game.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Like co and and the other thing is what I
would share is like the way the Phillies did it.
So they're in the World Series, right, almost won it all.
Next year, they lose the last game seven of the
NLCS in their own ballpark, right, So they're they're on
a downward trend. Like the fan base is looking at
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it as man, we made it to the World Series
the year before, and now we didn't even do that,
so like it's like this domino effect of non you know,
you're trying to figure it out. So they're overthinking the
game and really they just got to get back to
where they are. And even with their playlist and stuff
like that, oh that was a second place playlist and
all this, like, don't change anything. Don't change anything because
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like you were that close.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, dude, their locker room should be exactly the same. Whatever.
One that wants to be marketed from a team perspective, like, dude,
that's off front office. I don't know these guys and
Caslanos doesn't care about any of this stuff, like Bryce
doesn't care about anything. Who cares about a song and
all that stuff. Dude, whatever is playing in the clubhouse,
just keep playing it. Don't worry about how your team's
being marketed and what the fan base needs, this, that
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and the other thing. Like just play baseball, especially twelve games.
You're twelve games in, I mean, let's not let's let's
talk all star break and figure out where you're at then,
and then you know what to do and who's healthy.
I mean, things can change in three days from now. Yeah,
Yankees off to a good start. We'll we'll talk about
him a little bit. First to ten in the American League, Dodgers,
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first to ten in the National League. They both hit
ten wins on the same day, which is Tuesday, and
then they all and they both lost on Wednesday. So,
but a few things that's from Yankees perspective that we
haven't been really saying. First of all, Clay Holmes is
somehow has an ERA of zero even though he's his
I forget what his w h I P his whip is,
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but I mean, dude, he he's h I w h
I P whip. But I think, uh, I think the
Yankees are starting to fight a little bit. They're a
little bit more explosive than last year, it seems to be.
And there's a few reasons for that. Number One Juan Soto, Yeah,
I mean, good god, what a start.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He's game One's.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Like the man. I'm glad I called that guy. You
never see that with a big name a species, not
in the Bronx. On the Bronx for that quick of
a start, which means will probably be.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, exactly, it's gonna say it's gonna pull both quads
tomorrow exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Stroman added, uh, you know, a nice added to the gap,
I guess, because since we couldn't get Snell. But yeah,
he lost his first outing out or second outing out.
But still good things to see. Volpi's playing great, Stanton's
playing great, Rodent not too bad himself, even like Vertigo,
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the bullpen's coming together. You know who's not Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, it's you're not hearing much about him, like it's
not you know, then that's a good problem to have.
Your your star player is not up to is slumping
and you have ten wins already in this Can we
call it a slump and not even it's just like, no,
I get that. I'm just saying, like, it's not he's
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not mister highlight like I could think of Juan Sooto
highlights right now, I think of.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Three Yeah, his arms. Yeah, so damn good.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
That outfield is just it's unreal man now. And again,
like you said, that's a good problem to have, right
when your star player is not really shining and there's
three or four other guys that are shining right.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Also, it's such a New York Yankee thing to have. Like,
I don't know, Jeeta, it seems like he lost his
step that ground ball he struggled to get to. Like, meanwhile,
you're like thirty and two at the time, and this
guy's calling in wf an He's like, I don't know, Geeta,
he's off the step. I don't know. Do you think
we should put Alex over there? I mean he was
a short stop.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like it's just like it's like Yankee fans always picked
stuff apart that doesn't need to be like, dude, just
enjoy the ride, bro, enjoy the ride.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Aaron probably wants to hit more than they're better than
he's hitting right now. But as long as they keep
winning games, guess what, it's not gonna hurt. And a
slump is okay if you're winning games still, Yeah, the
pressure doesn't build until you're losing games. Then everybody's looking
at you. I mean, of course he wants to break
out of it, and then he's a baseball he's a professional.
No one wants to get up to the plate and
not get hit to get an a hit, But yeah,
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it's like it's it's like like even coaching, right, So
I coach, and it's like if you bench, Like let's
say you keep a player on the bench the whole
game and you win. You don't hear anything from that
player or their parents. They're happy the team won. Yeah,
the second you you keep up that player on the
bench and you lose. The first thing, why I would
if I played, I would probably would have contributed, would
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have done better. And then the parents are like, well,
you probably would have had a better chance if you put
so and so in. It's like, no, man, everything's all
well and good if you are winning. So Aaron just
hasked to keep doing what he's doing, ignore the New
York media a little bit and call it what it is.
I mean, come on again, the same thing we said
when we were talking about the Phillies. We're twelve games in, guys.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, that's that's the thing like baseball, Like that's what
I love about it. Like you could go hot or
cold for like ten games and the sky could be falling,
or you could be on top of the world, like
you know, I was equated to two years ago when
we joined the Gambler. Both New York teams were first
looked like the Phillies had no shots. Look like, next thing,
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you know, it's October and they're in the World Series
and we're at home. So it just you never know,
it's a long season. You never know what you got, uh,
you know, and you just hope that your leadership and
the owners and the money you're investing in this team,
because I mean, we pay their salaries. And regardless what
anybody wants to say, you know, the fans are the
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reason the people that go out buy the merch buy
the tickets, or the reason why the you know, the
owners are able to pay those salaries and the players
are able to get those salaries. So, uh, your investment
is as much as theirs and money wise, and uh,
you know, you just got to enjoy the ride. Hope,
hope it's the right one for you.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Well, I think what my co host is trying to
say is that baseball is like a box of chocolates.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Uh, and you.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Never know, you never know what you're gonna get. No, yeah,
what you're gonna get, that's what No man. No, By
the way, dude, we haven't hate that movie. Do you
hate them? Do what? Yes, you hate them a terrible movie,
yeah too, because.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Like yeah, they're like Jenny and I go together, like
peas and carrots. Peas and carrots are trash together, Like
there's not there is not a veggie that would suck
together more than piece of carrots because you're not getting
a good carrot and you're not getting a good pete
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because chances are nobody's going out buying Grade A carrots
and mixing them with peace, like it's always a jar option,
like you're getting mixed veggies, like there there's no time
where peas and carrots are good. And also like it's
kind of like it's if you go back and like
really think about the you know, like Tropic thunder as
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messed up as it was like explained that you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Do He won though he won to wanted.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I get that. I'm not arguing that, but have you
ever seen the outtakes where he's laughing at some of
his things that he was saying, like he was aides.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
In the movie pick apart peas and carrots.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, it's it's it's an awful movie. The accent was,
legs are gone, Bubba Gump gets killed, right, and then
the and then he's the only franchise that comes out
of this thing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Well yeah, but I don't even know if that franchise.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's definitely tied. You think, Yeah, when you sit at
a table, it says run Forrest, run or stop Forest
Stop never I've never eaten. And it's got all the memorabilia.
It's yeah. They were like, hey, we're gonna kill the
black guy and then we're gonna take this idea that
he had enfranchise it like it's it's it's white America.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He just really just hate it on Forrest.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's a terrible movie.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I wouldn't say it's terrible. Terrible, couldn't be terrible. It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You're right, it's not terrible. It's horrible, like what And
then he runs, but also like as a runner, not realistic,
and then he creates a bumper stick of why he's running.
I mean not realistic, no shin splints, like.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
The man spent his childhood embraces, dude, I mean, come on,
and they broke free and he's yeah, he's he's a
freaking nature.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Also like what was his die chocolate?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Maybe yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And that so he's like you know what I this,
I'm loaded up on caffeine and chocolate. I'm just gonna
go out for a run, like stop, man, it's all the.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Grown man, just chocolate with no scene of him sitting
on the toilet.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Like oh no, was n Now he's mocking veterans, Like
are you serious? Like who wrote this movie?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Mocking?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Mocking? Like now I was like, I not only did
I run across country, now I'm a Vietnam vet both
my legs yeah yeah, while Lieutenant Dan just sitting there legless,
like it's it's not a.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
What did you want him to do? Like strap him
on his back or like push him around on one
of those stor.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like I just want a decent movie, you know, like
stick the Toy story.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Man. I can't, Man, I can't with your your hate
for things like like Forrest Gump and side Feld and
every good movie.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's not a good movie.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You're right, Mike, it's a great movie.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Who sat there and was like, let's turn that on?
Yet you know, you know what a show? A movie
that I did turn on again and again took every
and purposely. I was dating like it was high school.
I was dating like four girls at the time. Not
bragging for you're bragging talking. I wasn't dating. I was
talking and hanging out with uh one's upstairs. I would
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convince them all to see the same movie one because
I loved it and it was old school to movie.
That's a rewatchable movie. That's a thousand times better.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It's not getting nominated for an A should.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
God, it should have because it was more realistic than anything,
especially in my life, that Forrest Gump did. Forrest Coump
mocked U. People run marathons and and and him mocked them.
He mocked them. He made it seem easy. He made
it seem way too easy. Who get out of me,
get off your park bench and just freaking start running
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in old man tennis shoes. I'm not buying it goes
to Vietnam, mox Sen steals a concept, makes it global
from a black man. It's a terrible movie. You know
what Old School did? You're my boy Blue. That's it,
that's it, that's it. That's great, that's a great movie.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
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We gotta pay the bills a little bit and find
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Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah. Man, we're just we're here to support support it is.
Let's get into Ippi a little bit here. Yeah, because
he stole, allegedly, according to his charges, sixteen million dollars
from from show. Hey, oh, Tony so Ippy Musahara, what
however you say his name? Stole sixteen million dollars reporting
(25:04):
six million, mister Hoira, I think I said.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I think it's okay if I just call him ippy
Hippy Hippy.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Skime goat Hippy is, of course, the former long term
interpreter for Shoho. Tani got into a huge scandal during
this art offseason, or at least start of this season,
when pitchers and catchers were reporting back all the way
back in February into March that he had a huge
gambling debt and he stole the sixteen to help cover
(25:32):
a lot of that. I am not a very good
gambler at all. I think if I ever got to
a one million dollars in debt, I would probably just
stop or jump off a bridge one or the other.
But if you need to steal sixteen million to cover
most of your gambling debt. That's an insane gambling debt.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
What I also don't understand is if you go into
his betting history, he's down forty million. So where did
he get the other I'm sorry spoiler alert being an
interpreters not gonna pay you know, thirty six million or
twenty six million.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
He had to jump on a three leg parlay that
was had two hundred odds plus ten bucks. That's when
he's like, dude, of course that's the one that hits.
He's gotta bet for five hundred grand. I'm backing he
got a he had a ten dollars free play from
(26:28):
fan duel that he used for ten dollars.
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, And imagine if Ippy was betting against Otani, he
wouldn't have to have stolen the money. That's true because
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So sixteen million dollars, It's like, how did he My
(27:45):
first question was, how the hell did he get access
to the money? So easy? Well, it's very easy when
you interpret for someone because they have no idea what's
going on. So you walk them to the bank and
you open up an account. And when you do that, Mike,
you get all the account information and you can just
pretty much take out money whenever you want, which is
exactly what he did.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, unreal.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So it started all the way in twenty twenty one
allegedly allegedly says that the first unauthorized transfer from his
bank account and this is, mind you, his salary, any
promo deal. Pretty much all of Otani's money is going
in this account. But the first allegedly unauthorized transfer from
the account was November fifteenth, twenty twenty one, where he
(28:27):
took forty and ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
There's the ten bucks.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yep, and it aligns with the timing of a text
message between it be and a bookmaker discussing the amount
that he was laying for the bet. And then all
the way fast forward to May twenty twenty three, his
transfers went from around forty thousand dollars to about five
hundred thousand dollars each five excuse me, yes, five hundred
(28:52):
thousand dollars for each transfer, placed in twenty five wagers
per day, and lost nearly forty one million. Yet no, it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Makes no sense, like honestly, like none of this makes
sense because it's forty one million dollars. Like that's a
lot of freaking money for an interpreter like to lose, right,
or even to think that he could gamble it? And
I understand, Like, if you have a gambling problem, please
call one a hundred gambler. I'm told they could help you.
But what I don't understand about this is like one like,
(29:23):
now all sudden, Otani understands what's going on, you know
what I mean? Like, so, so we're gonna play the
card that Yeah, he was able to open up bank accounts,
he was able to do this. He was able to
do that without Otani knowing. But the minute it hit
the fan, all of a sudden, now Otani knows. And
I don't get that. And the one part where the
gamblers knew Ippi's relationship with Otani, because hey, we're threatening
(29:48):
it be to pay saying that we're watching Otani walk
gets Dog.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm watching Walker's Dog. You're not calling me back.
I'm gonna go up and talk to Otani and figure
out how to get in touch with you since you.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Call me back, right, So also like if some it
sounds like you're threatening me, you know, Also like it
takes a lot of skills to be a thief and
have a gambling problem, you know what I mean, And
and to get access to that much money. That's all
I'm trying to say so you're that smart to be
(30:18):
able to get that much money, but also like you
have that big of a gambling problem.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Also, I mean I know Tani too. It's like you
don't even know this money is missing, like you're just yeah,
I mean, that's a rich person problem. I can't hate
him for that, making hundreds of millions of dollars off
endorsements and everything else.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And I've been told by agents like you know and
people in the industry that yeah, that can actually happen.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, dude, if you're making one hundred million dollars a
year and you're missing forth, Like if I'm making one
hundred grand a year, I might not notice fourteen grand,
you know what I mean, Like the same thing, same scam.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I've heard bartenders do that, like they'll overtip themselves. You're
looking at me like I'm crazy, Like they they'll be
like think about it, like how many times do you
go back and double check the amount you wrote down
on tip first the amount they actually pull from your Like.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
If you tip a waiter or a bartender, like on
a credit card, or a waitress or a waitress and
they go back and change the amount. Yes, there was
a Twitter feed about Yes, exactly. That's why you always
like keep. Well, it's weird keeping it. But it's weird
that people like keep the receipt of like what you write.
But yeah, you know you're right, I'm not. I'm never
checking the amount I tip on a credit card. So
if it was a couple bucks off, that's true, like
(31:29):
tip ten bucks and it's twenty like you know what
I mean, Like, that's wild. When I bartend, you can't
leave a tip on the credit card. It's only cash,
so that, yeah, that's not fair either. I like it though,
because when I, like, when we go out to dinner,
I try to bring cash the tip because when you
tip on the card, it goes right to their house
or or like they have to all share it too.
(31:51):
Well yeah, I mean usually places pool tips anyway, but yeah,
it goes right to the check and then you get
taxes taken out so it counts come so it's really
like yeah, so it's like for the people like so
for example, guys, I bartend at a place that doesn't
do tips on credit cards, so some people are like
I don't have cash, and You're like, dude, I don't care,
and they're like, well, what do you mean it's like, well,
(32:11):
if you didn't have cash and you like, I'd get taxed,
so I'll take my losses there to not take my
loss at the end of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, back to to Ippy. It wasn't all gambling, Mike.
He did use some of Otani's money to buy baseball cards.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Speaker 2 (32:28):
Your vemo.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
M that's actually a great idea.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I should do that for you before you leave.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
No, I know how to do it, but I mean, like, actually.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Here's my vemo. Just have it in your phone as
a as your favorite and just be like, yeah, you
don't have to care. Has Murphy crying.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
That's just my daughter. She's hungry.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
She's hungry, playing Sarah McLaughlin in the background.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Dud dude, hippie man, what is wrong with you? Ipy.
I can see steel, I could see stealing money to
buy base name of but come on baseball cards.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Wow, dude, I've never stole money for baseball cards. I
bought a ton of baseball cards today. Actually, did you really?
I did. I'm addicted.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I want to start getting it forty million dollars. I
want to start getting into forty bucks. I really want
to start getting into the base any trading.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Cards don't do it, man, I just want I just
love ripping packs. Like the smell ripping packs.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Man's a drug. You want to packs?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Man, But no, it's like the smell of fresh baseball
cards and just the idea of opening it and like
it could have something crazy in it. Never has in
my entire career, uh life, I should say a career
of ripping packs. But uh yeah, it's it's just a
cool feeling. Also pack ripper, It's just what I do.
(33:54):
Shout out to Nanny Cope. I knock on both sides.
Now Peyton does that even I'm showing brace doing it
when we open pack together. I don't know what you
just said, Like you knock on both sides. So if
it's a pack of cards, like you're like, we also
do that on.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Scratch offs, Like it's like like a pack of cigarettes
for good luck, not like you've got to pack him in.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, we knock and then you where you scratch them.
That was a good luck turn. Never worked, So I
was just out my next question, maybe it's not a
good luck char god?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Uh fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Where we at.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We're gonna take a quick break and then We're gonna
talk about the greatest hits of O. J.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Simpson.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Guys. Uh yeah. O J. Simpson is dead. He died.
We're gonna talk about that. It's pacing bills first. We
will be right back. This is Divide Live on Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
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Speaker 3 (34:53):
And we're back. You had a pretty busy week man.
First of all, this is the first time we're sitting
down and talking to each other in a while. But
you got home from your vacation and then I felt
like you stepped off the plane and went to WrestleMania. Yeah,
it was. It was crazy. So I'm sure people feel
bad for you now that you stepped off the plane
for vacation. Yea, to go to WrestleMania, which is now
(35:14):
two days.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, I just learned, so Peyton, I'm going to backtrack
really quick. Thursday, Peyton's last day of school, half day.
I committed to her why her mom was away on
another business trip, that she could She bought these eggs
and she wanted to paint them give them to all
(35:36):
the talent and people I work with that she knows
I work with every day. So she have one for
Becksbuster Rach on the radio, Nugget, Sean Brace, Frankie Darcel,
Miss Patty Jackson, like all the way down to Roxy
on Rise and Grind, Jeff My my president, some of
my employees. So she was like, yeah, you're gonna sign
me out of school. We're gonna drop these off. She was.
(35:59):
She had a day. I got her out like ten
minutes early. We go, we'd go down there. She drops
them off for like, hey, look like she made these eggs.
She's hugging everybody, hanging out. Then we get on the plane.
We go to La Hollywood. We're in the center, like
right across the street from the Chinese Theater in what
looks like the Haunted Mansion from not the Haunted Mansion,
(36:21):
the Hollywood Tower Terror. Yeah, like that's what our hotel
looked like. And it was haunted. People are telling us
it's haunted. Homeless people were like, yo, bro, that thing's haunted,
Like you shouldn't be in there. It was beautiful, it
was awesome, It was really cool. We went to the
iHeart Music Awards.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Great.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
We go to Disneyland, We went to Universal Maryocart. Awesome weekend,
get off the plane. Literally worked Friday, regular workday, closed
some deals, did some stuff for the Gambler.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, I brought the earthquakes back with us. And then
and then after Shock from La like that was my
gift to everybody. And then Saturdays WrestleMania with Rick Flair
and he's everything you thought he was, like, you know,
we had Alexa there from the network and he was
in love with her. He was in love with anything
(37:11):
that walked past them. But look, it was a really
really cool experience. It was awesome to see, you know,
shout out to Green Legion. They put on a heck
of a show. But it was a long day, dude.
It was a long day because these are like six
hours before WrestleMania, like and then you had to go in,
and every day I didn't have a ticket to go in,
(37:33):
including the first day. Stacey got my daughter a ticket
and my wife a ticket, so there was an understanding
that I wouldn't be able to go in and they
would just go in because Peyton really wanted to go
to WrestleMania. I was like, dude, I get it, Like
it's all good. John Jansen got me a ticket in.
It was great, you know. So once the first night,
second night's same kind of thing. We had people from
(37:56):
our punk tournament that got these amazing sweet tickets to
our President President, but I didn't have a ticket and
I got one last minute. It was pretty epic.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
So the Rock was there, some other old heads, Undertaker Sina.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It was nuts man.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Uh, it's absolutely and I never well, I mean, I
know they switched it because you told me, like a
couple years ago to now, a two day event used
to just be like that one. First of all, how
many like pay per views? Here's like I feel like,
is there more pay per views for wrestling now than
I think? There? Used to be like five major pay
per views. There was like Summer Slim and Real Rumble, Yeah,
(38:33):
Ellen a Cell and WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, it's almost monthly. Now there's the core four that's
always gonna be there. So it's WrestleMania, Survivor Series, SummerSlam,
and the Word Rumble. Those are a core for Those
are the best for Those are the marquis of everything.
But there's all these other pay per views and they
had them as kids. They would they would coin them
as in your house, so it's just like once a month,
(38:57):
and it was like a little bit better than Raw Okay,
but yeah, they kind of went away once SmackDown joined
because like they were like, dude, there's a lot of
content already. Yeah, but now they're back because you got
Saudi Arabia once Wrestling, which when they announced the Saudi
Arabia match, everybody in Philly booed. Now, I was kind
of cracking up. Is kind of funny, so you kind
of you can't take you can take Philly for what
(39:19):
it's worth, but it was funny. So dude. Yeah, So
now not only is it more than four pay per views,
it's WrestleMania, it's two nights, you know, so they're they're
doing it for two nights. It was just intense, dude,
Like I it for me, it was like the Super
Bowl but multiple days. And like in what really put
(39:40):
it together was we're broadcasting with Rick Flair and we're
in this box above Chicken Pete's and Infinity Live and
there is a crowd of hundreds and hundreds of people
beneath us, and they're all looking up and we don't
even notice they're looking up until somebody noticed and they're like, look,
everybody's looking at us. And Rick Flair just gets up
(40:01):
and he starts doing crowd shots, which was hilarious but like,
it was just a mind blowing experience. And then Quimby
goes and we have to do it all over again tomorrow,
and you're just like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
God, thanks Quimby for sucking the air out of the room.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
No, no, no, it made it because it was like
a once in a lifetime thing, but now we got
to do it twice.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Oh he said it like that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Ass Yes, yeah, it felt good.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It felt good.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And then I was able to then capture Sunday in
a way with tie in such a way that was
poetic and better. So it was like, imagine if you
got to relive your wedding, all.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right, but the parts you enjoyed, remember what I thoroughly
enjoyed my wedding, Man, it was that's great. H No.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
But I'm just saying like, if you like those moments,
you're like, I could never do this again, and you're like, actually,
you're gonna do the same exact thing tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
You mentioned that you're gonna do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So that was that's been my week. Monday was headful.
I'm still tired. The only other person that's on the
reverse version of this was Jansen went from WrestleMania to Vegas,
and I feel like that's almost as tough as when
I did LA into Vegas.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Just a flight, a normal flight into Vegas. Exhaust.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
The other part was like, so Friday, I'm the only
one that got up early in my house, and then Saturday,
like and Sunday, I was able to sleep enough that
I still was jet lagged and we were still going
to bed like I wasn't even getting home till two
am either night day. So I still feel jet lagged
and nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
So I was like, sorry, bring your problems elsewhere, buddy.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
It sounds like it sounds like a US, like a
U problem.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Oh. J Simpson's dead. You guys, I'm sorry. If you're
hearing this for the first time, you shouldn't be. Though.
This is a weird one, man, This.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Is like a strange man, so weird, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, look like other than the tiny glove, look like
here grant my strong end. Look man, Uh, it's a
weird one because he was a celebrated athlete that murdered
his wife and a wife's friend. Like there's no other
way to say it. He wasn't convicted, but ninety nine
percent of America agrees that he got away with murder.
(42:22):
And dude, it's crazy because people that were born even
after the trial still know about O. J. Simpson. Yeah,
they know just how crazy everything is. Now the craze
is going to pick up again. The documentary's are gonna
get Washington, Bronco sales are going to go through the roof.
Like it's just it's gonna be a little uptick of
of everything. Yeah, it's just a weird feeling because it's
(42:44):
like the news hit from a sports perspective, because these
dude's in the Football Hall of Fame. He's got a
busting can. Yeah you know what I mean, Like I'm
stripped of his highsman or all that other stuff for
obvious reasons. But like he uh, he's he's you know,
he's so littlefied in in the sports world forever. But
from everything else that happened after that, people are kind
(43:07):
of like, so you got all these news outlets ESPN
and CHEP, like you know, reporting it from a sports perspective,
It's even on the Football Hall of Fame website, you know,
you click on each name and it's O. J. Simpson
and they updated everything and it's prostate cancer according to
his family, which you know sucks.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
It could have been avoidable.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Well you know what else could have been avoidable.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
But that's like minus the fact that he had like
the uh, if I did it, this is how I
would have done it. My god, Like I almost like
if you really think about him post leaving court and
post trial, like he's so jolly, he's so happy. The
(43:52):
things he would comment on from a golf cart that
went viral when everybody got to see you as of
late man as he was just right to the point
where I'm like, dude, did he really do it? And
then you're like, yeah, he did it, like you know
what I mean. But like if you take it's almost
like a second, like almost like an alter ego or
something like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
I think he thinks he may have not done it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, he's almost convinced himselves pretty much.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
But I mean, dude, there was his like I mean dude,
they were divorced for two years. Yeah, when it happened,
him and Nicole, and there was history of domestics and
how like he you know, actual recorded statements of like
you know how crazy he gets when he gets angry
and he gets this look in his eye. So dude,
there could have been a multiple personality thing where he
had idea.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
I love to see, like you got to remember like this,
we saw it him wrestling God forbidden. I hate talking
about but Chris Benoi like I love to crack. I
want scientist. I hope his body gets kind.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Of looked at, donate his brain. Yeah, it's curiosity, right,
So dude, that I it's funny. I mean, we're not
going to hear it. Obviously, nothing weird is going to
come out.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But no or nothing more shocked, because nothing shocks anybody anymore.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
No, well, dude, we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
This, like we were like we had an earthquake and
it was like lunch conversation and that was on the
East coast.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, that never happens.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Like did you guys feel that? Okay, right, let's go
back to back them. Hey guys, you see that alien outside? Yeah,
I give him thumbs up.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
No, but it's like you kind of think of like
I'm sure people are like, oh man, crazy if he
left the note saying that he did it. It's like why,
like you all think, here's how dumb the general public is.
I feel like if he left the note saying that
he did it like as a last dying note, I
feel like most of the general public would be like,
that's fake, he didn't do that. But they still believe
(45:38):
that he's a murderer, you know what I mean? Almost
like it's like just arguing against the fact. Like just
like they all he definitely did he definitely did it.
Oh he left the note as like his dying wish. Ah,
that's fake. He probably didn't do it, you know what
I mean? Just that type of.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Do you also like if you if you if you
know you're about to meet your demise and you're a
public figure, do you not share that? I think I'm
sharing it.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
I think O J genuinely do.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Like ten more podcasts.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I think OJ genuinely think I'd get it. He thinks
he was love though, he thinks he was adored. That
he just he has no idea how the public really.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Mike's last minute on the MIC, I brought to you
by Paul's funeral.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
You know what it is, man, you would sell the
heck out of it too. If that was that situation,
you'd be like, all right, I'm selling this and my
family's making money to where they never have exactly supported
a murderer's family, you know what I mean. Like that
would be that would be the real plot to us.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That would be great, but like cutcoat nines.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Oh all right, guys, have a good week. We'll be
back next week. This was Divide Live on Fox Sports
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Speaker 1 (46:46):
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