"Black Rabbit" Actor Chris Banks, "One Battle After Another" Review, Swifties invade movie theaters!

On this week's episode: Actor and South Boston native Chris Banks stops by The Hub on Hollywood to talk about his work on "Black Rabbit," starring Jason Bateman and Jude Law, a non-spoiler review of "One Battle After Another" starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Taylor Swift and her swifties take over the box office, AI "Actress" Tilly Norwood shakes up Hollywood, and more!

The Hub on Hollywood, hosted by Jamie and James, delves into the thriving film industry in New England. The podcast explores the production of various projects, including commercials, television shows, and full-length feature films.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is a Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio podcast. I'm
your co host, James Rojas.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm the other co host, Jamie Blanco.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
And on this week's episode, we have a special guest actor,
Chris Banks, originally from South Boston, a Southie boy. Here
in studio I E. The new TV mini series Black
Rabbit starring Jason Baimon and Jude Law. Thank you so
much for ving.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
On the podcast called My Pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
And not only we'll be talking about your career and
Black Rabbit, but we're also talking about another contender that
I think has entered the chat for best Film of
the Year. One Battle after Another starring Leo Nardo DiCaprio,
Taylor Swift taking over the box office whether you love
it or hate it, streaming numbers for Superman soaring on
HBO Max. And you can't spell disaster without Ai because

(00:59):
that's our that's gonna be one of our hot topics
that's also entering the chat. The chat. Yeah, well, as
you mentioned, Chris, thank you so much for coming on
the Hub on Hollywood. Yeah, you met Jamie on set.
I'm not sure if we can disclose where we can
disclose that ye's that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So you are an amazing actor I discovered. We talked
at first, we talked about, you know, kids and your
work with children, and come to discover that you are
in this mini series called Black Rabbit that's just come
out on Netflix, as we mentioned, starring Jason Bateman.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
And Jude Law.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Now, before we dive into that, can we talk a
little bit about how you became an actor because I
think you have sort of an interesting story about how
you got there.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Absolutely don't we all, like all actors have interesting stories,
but how we get here? But I guess it's I've
always known I was an actor. I acted as a
like a six seven year old and like school plays
and stuff like that. But my mother, single mothers in
the nineties in Boston, really didn't have that access to art. Really,

(02:19):
you know that that we have today in more neighborhoods
than they than was available in South Boston at the time.
So I really I took I took a liking to
interrupting my classroom by acting out. That's how I acted
as a kid, was just to literally act out in
the middle of a classroom and then repetitively getting in

(02:39):
trouble I've I adjusted that and began to work with
teachers and asked. Then teachers actually began to work with me,
and eventually, come sixth grade, they gave me a little
bit of runway and I ended up helping to create
this activity with a class that we took the twenty
vocabulary words every week and we split them, we split
ourselves up into and we each took about four or

(03:01):
five words and we just created a skit once a
week for the class. So that that's how I acted
as a kid. And you know, I wrestled on network televis,
I mean BNN as a kid, like you would see
me as a child breaking my bones on local access television.
So I've always just had that propensity to just use
my body and act out whatever I whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I do want to credit teachers. Shout out to the
teachers out there who are very good at focusing that
kind of like that not hyperactivity is the world with
the energy for that. So kudos to the teachers for
doing that, because there are so many people who who
point back to like an elementary school teacher or a
high school teacher and they say, hey, I see this
in you. Let's focus this, Let's focus laser it in

(03:47):
on something and it could lead to you know where
you are today.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And I thank all the teachers that I had that
worked with me, because I gave the teachers before that
so much trouble. Like, you know, it's tough. It really
is taking unfocused energy and focusing it. And that's really
what direction is as an actor. It's just that's what
direction is, is just taking ideas and focus and redirecting
it somewhere else. So I'm grateful to all the teachers

(04:13):
to work that work with me. But then you know,
as you get to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, you have to
stop doing that, you know. So like I stopped acting
for a long time, and I was going to go
to I went to Quincy College and UMass Boston, and
I was gonna I took the LSAT, I was going
to go to law school. But then I just I said,
I could always go to law school theoretically, but I
have to try to act for real, you know, Like

(04:33):
I have to try to like do something whatever even
whatever that even means act for real, I don't know.
But that's really how I've begun on the actual path
in the industry.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Right and now you're back and forth between New York
and Boston. Talk to us a little bit about how
what led to you landing this project.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think it was just a culmination of years of
just con energy expense, where Like I moved to New
York because I was bored in Boston. I didn't really know.
I was kind of rudderless, just spinning my wheels in Boston,
and I kind of I've always I went to New
York when I was ten years old, a few months
after nine to eleven, and I just remember I fell
in love with the city then as a small boy,

(05:17):
and I always knew I had to spend some time there.
I didn't know how much time there. I didn't know
what would happen when I landed there. But I kind
of regret starting an acting career in New York because
I am from Boston and the Boston film market exploded
at the same time as I moved to New York.
But I love New York more than anything in my life.

(05:37):
It's given me more than anybody or anything has ever
in my life, ever been in my life. So I
feel like the universe has just dealt me cards that
I have to play with respect and empathy to myself
into the world because I'm very lucky to be in
a position that I am in. I don't know how
I've gotten here in a lot of ways, I have
no idea how I got on the show. You know,

(06:02):
I was on lunch I was helping put on a
show for kids, and I was on my lunch break
and I opened up social media and that's when the
beginning of this process began. So it's just a shock,
but it's also it's a good shock because it's I
feel like we're all shocked in the twenty first century
today where we don't know anything anymore. But that's also
an opportunity to accept the nature of the world that

(06:25):
we live in and the fact that people have access
to you that would never have access to you before,
and people can connect with you digitally that you would
never imagine.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, I think there are pros and cons to now
how people audition, because back in the day, you'd go
in person. You'd drive miles or take buses and taxis
and ubers and whatnot and get to somewhere to audition
in person, to be told in five minutes no, thank you,
and then go back through that kind of like that
walker shame out at the door and stuff. Now. I

(06:54):
don't know if it's better. I guess there are pros
and cons for doing a lot of auditions on tape
now where you can send it in to a lot
of people and they get, you know, feedback instantly, like, well,
how do you find that process.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm still kind of fighting it, I said earlier about
the world that we live in. I'm still fighting a
lot of the nature of it, and the self tape
is the biggest part of it, because I love I
love being nervous in a room with other people who
are nervous, because I feel like that's just the most
accurate representation of being a humans. We're all feeling something
at a particular moment, and I like experiencing things together.

(07:26):
I don't like I don't like the isolation of self tapes.
I don't like the speed of it. I feel like
it demeans an actors' capacity and capability because if you
don't what if you don't what if the best actor
doesn't have the room to have a full body slate
and you're just a casting director is missing out on
the best actor each and every time because a person
just has a small room and you can't see their feet. Yeah,

(07:48):
but that's why they're losing it. That's why some actors
are losing out on jobs. And I just I don't
think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
No, I think yeah, like you said, like I said,
there are pros and cons and so yeah, like that
real you can get a sense of who somebody is
on video, but I think in person, there's no denying
that connection that you that you could.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Get totally and I miss that. I missed that connection.
Do you do miss that connection?

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Chain, Well, it's just it's so different to be in
the room with the people because come on the day
that you're actually shooting it, you're also in a room
surrounded by people. So maybe you can do the performance
alone in your room, but surrounded by people, you're you know,
there's there's a difference there, So, I mean, I think exactly.
So I feel like being immersed you know, throughout the

(08:32):
process is probably the more natural way of doing it.
But I'm at the point where I'm still trying to
fall in love with the nerves, right. Yeah, But that's
a great way of seeing it, of embracing it, which
kind of leads to my next question. So this character
that you play in Black Rabbit.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
You're a thief, you're a robber.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
You shake down, uh some bateman there, and you steal
his coin collection. You get to shoot a gun, and
you're such a gentle guy. You know, you're such a
nice guy.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
But he did an amazing job of embodying this character
that's not only trying to like, you know, rob the guy,
but he's also like incredulous, like I've got a gun,
Like what is wrong with you? I thought you played
that really well.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
It was great to watch. But yeah, talk about that
process of becoming someone else. Sure, and then we'll talk
about Jason Bateman.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, it's interesting because it's kind of like I think
about the character type. The character name was frail guy. Okay,
so and I'm and I'm pretty slender, but I don't
think I'm frail, but I might. You could see me as.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Frail, and you can sell frail.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I can sell freil, I can sell frail. But and
it's also it's also in my meta. I think it's
a metaphor for really who the character is. He's just
a scumbag, you know, like the gun. The gun is
his strength and his attitude is his strength, but really deep,
Danny's frail. You know, new you don't you don't wield
a gun like that unless you're frail. So I basically
just drew from I grew I mean, growing up in

(10:07):
Southeast a pretty difficult experience. So and you grow up
around a lot of those local uh and I was
probably one of them at one point of time because
we all make poor decisions, you know. And I've I've
I've I've stolen baseball cards from stopping shop, you know,
when I was, when I was a kid, I was busted.

(10:29):
So it's but like that, that that that's where I
drew from. And it's it was a pretty easy character
to embody. I didn't. I only had four days on set,
so it was and I got I got I got him.
I I got to absorb who the character was in
a rehearsal day, thankfully, because I need I needed to

(10:49):
knock away my nerves myself, because this was the first
big this was the first Union television role I've ever had.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
And this was shot in New York. This was shot
in New and so what do they do is an
actual street? They close off walks or so was Jason
Baymon directing at this time, at this episode, I was.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Very fortunate to get one of the episodes that he directed. Yeah,
and he and I got him. I met him the
day he landed from LA The rehearsal day was the
first day he was in New York, so he was
and as a director, as an actor director, I'm still
floored by the amount of work that that is. Like
Jason was completely engulfed by the second that he his

(11:30):
feet touched the ground and the second that he arrived
on set. As a director, you're doing angles, lighting choices,
all the decisions, everything, and at the same time he's
reading a script and making sure he understands his own part.
I'm not so sure when I met him he understood
how to play the character, his character. I think he

(11:51):
was still finding it. I think I think we had
so much fun together. I feel like we helped each
other in a way, you know. And because I am
a great dude. Again, I'm from I'm from uh, you know,
Fifth Street in South Boston. You know it's not at
what you see on screen is not fake, you know it's.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, and was he involved in the casting of you, Yeah,
as a casting director and then.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
No, Jason casts his own projects. I mean, I'm sure
he uses a casting director sometimes, but he personally sourced
a lot of the actors in the project. I was,
you know, when you get a message on Instagram from
someone who you've watched since you were a kid, and
he's like asking for your agents contact information, but your

(12:37):
your first impression is to act like a fan because.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Of my so he directed, he directly messaged you. Yeah,
he got into your DMS.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, thanks Jason, love you dude. Yes, And I'm I'm
forever grateful for it because I didn't I was again,
I was just on my lunch break helping to put
on a show about Martin Luther King for for kids
in Queens. So uh and I was, you know, probably
eating a bake, make and cheese in the middle of that,
you know, Like I think I thought it was spam

(13:05):
when I first read the message, because you know, and
then I would.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Think I was asking you for like one hundred bucks
or like a couple like gift card. Then yeah, that
might be a scam.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Right, And I didn't even know he had social media
and much less, like little did I know, like how
how visionary he is as a director. He knows how
to use social media to save himself time. And that's
basically what if I was a director, I'd be doing
the same thing. I mean, you may not. I still
had an audition for the part, but he found his

(13:35):
actors I think by just scrolling on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
There's the discussion of where you came from coming to
the part of either the direction or the acting for
that role. Like if he knew that you were from
South Boston, He's like, bring some of that grid up.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yes, oh yeah, totally. I think he was. I don't
know that he knew where to put me. I think
that it just kind of I kind of landed where
I landed, and I think it was the most appropriate
role for me because I hadn't had a I mean,
I've done a lot of indie projects. I've done a
lot of stage work, I've done a lot of random acting,
but never a union credit, you know, and for him

(14:11):
to give me that opportunity literally means the world to me.
And I made sure he understood that time and time again,
you know, without annoying him exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Well, you talked a little bit about that process of
like finding the characters together. So there was a scene
of you guys in the casino, and then the main
bit was in the car and in the parking lot.
Can you talk about, you know, working with Jason and
the other.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Actor, Absolutely, Curtis.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Curtis talk to us a little bit about that process.
Where were some of the best parts of that.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I and let me start the entry. Let me start
that section by thanking Curtis at the at the four
because he is an experienced actor. He's done a lot
of great work. And here I was on rehearsal day,
you know, shaking, you know not. I mean I wasn't.
I was a little bit intimidated because you know, Jason
is a genius in the medium that he works in.

(15:06):
I don't say that because I worked with him. I
said that because I observed it and I'm in love
with it. I mean, I couldn't stop watching him nearly,
just because I've never seen an actor direct before and
I want to do that someday, you know, but you
have to absorb it before you can even understand it.
And so I was a little nervous on rehearsal day,
and Curtis really told me of specific things that that

(15:30):
I needed at the time in terms of where my
focus should be. I was a little in over. I
was a little excited, a little too excited. I get
a little too excited sometimes, so that energy pops out
of me. And I wasn't so grounded on the rehearsal day.
I was a little you know, a little bit of

(15:51):
little fanboyish, you know. So I had to get that
under control. And Curtis, thank you so much for helping
me get that under control. But thankfully, when we showed
up to actually shoot the first day, it was the
parking lot scene, and I I'm familiar with guns. I'm
I'm you know, I haven't shot one in a while,

(16:11):
but I'm not intimidated by that. But it's also in
a post in this world now. And whenever you have
a gun on set, if it's if it's actually people
of firing, you know, you're going to have people around
you and lots of protocols to follow. And and I
want to say thank you to Joel the armorer, who
was just so thorough that he allowed me to like
my mind was freed by his professionalism and by the

(16:34):
support on set. So I was basically Jason and Curtis
knew exactly what he wanted to do because he's he's
a professional. Jason was finding the character still because I
don't think he's ever done anything as gritty as this,
And how can you know how to play it unless

(16:55):
you get it to do it? Yeah, and do it.
So I think that the first the first day was
very interesting because there was a lot of play, just
a lot of figuring out what to do, a lot
of ad libbing. You know, there was a script, but
Jason really let me run away with whatever, which is freeing.
But also, you know, we did a lot. We did

(17:15):
a lot of shots that never you know, you don't
that you don't see because I I had to work,
you know, I had to work through my nerves. And
the first few takes were probably just too big. And
I act on stage a lot, so sometimes I'm just
too big and the camera doesn't want big, the camera
wants real, yeah, you know, and like and sometimes I
just have to tune into myself. And so that's basically

(17:37):
what it was like Jason, I actually ended up leading
for real because of the exchange in the car and
that with the blood on his elbows real and yeah,
and just an interesting exper Yeah, I mean it was
really it only looks so good because of the support
I had on set, all the people around me. You know,

(17:58):
they put me in a great position.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You're talking about some of the excitement going into that, uh,
that role, and it kind of reminds you watching Jason,
as he said, trying to find his character himself. He
was recently on Hot Ones and he was talking about
how he hasn't played the type of character before where
he usually kind of plays at the straight guy, the
straight arrow and kind of reacts to the chaos, but

(18:22):
in this one he seems to be most of the
chaos and then kind of it must have been very fun,
as you mentioned, watching him go through his own process,
because even an actor who's decades in the industry still
has a process of trying to you know, tweak things
to get it right. And so it's a good reminder
of like, you know, you could be in this for
decades and yeah, so you're so kind of doing the fundamentals.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
And you add in directing to that and it's like
that That's kind of where I in my mind was blown.
Is like Jason was finding it at the same time
as knowing everything else about it, which is like, how
do you do that? How do you? How do you?
You know? And that's really why I was in awe
half the time because I just couldn't believe how much
work he was doing.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, they're like the air traffic controller, totally a million
things juggling in the air from every department.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
The camera Ari on Ari, who operated the camera, was
just you know, a super pro. But the way that
the whole team worked, it was just so easy to
work with them because they were so quick and I'm quick,
Like Jason's a fast and loose kind of worker. He
likes to just kind of get in there and have fun.
Me too, but we're not doing something fun. We're doing
something very gritty and dark. So like there was a

(19:30):
lot of physicality and a lot of you know, slamming
of the door, like you don't really see. There was
a lot of takes that I absolutely slammed that car door,
and you know, it just wasn't didn't really fit. Yeah,
but it was really just about, you know, Jason needed that.
I feel like he needed the whole mile attitude, you know,
just to help help because it was the first few

(19:52):
days of the whole shoot. And I'm very grateful for
that because I feel like I got a very unique
experience because of that.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, and one last thing I want to ask you
about that scene, poor Curtis.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, such as.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You haven't seen My Rabbit yet.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I mean, maybe we won't say exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
To him, if do we care about spoilers.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I want people to watch this. What is the streaming,
where's it? Where's it on? It's on Netflix on Netflix,
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
I kind of I want to watch this anyways, stunts
are cool. We'll just say that.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And then, really, if I could foreshadow that a little bit,
it's really just because he puts me in a bad spot.
My friend puts me in a bad spot, and but
then the character reacts in a way that's just not good.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
So if you want to see that, you should go
see Black Rabbit.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, speaking of friends and sorry to friends of family, Like,
what what's the reaction been like from folks?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
You know, it's been interesting. I've heard from so many people.
I haven't heard from it in a long time, and
I mean in a great way, And like I appreciate,
I love all the support, but it's been it's it's
being an actor is very interesting. Thing. You know, there's
just people. Uh yeah, I'm still getting comfortable with actually
being an actor, you know, Like I just when people
reach out to me, all I can say is thank you,

(21:09):
because I genuinely thank you for the encouragement to love,
the support. But I want to say something else too,
And sometimes I don't know what to say. Sometimes I
just don't know what to say. And I don't mean that,
you know, genuinely, I don't know what to say. It's
just thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
People from high school, you know, neighborhood friends, you know,
family teachers, you know. Yeah, it's it's it's been lovely that.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
One teacher from way back in the day. It's like
I knew it. I knew I was right.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
All those attentions were worth it.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Shout out to Katya to someone who's singing your praises and.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm always singing Katya's praises. She's one of the hardest
workers I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
She really is so lots of love.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
So we can't talk about it soon, but we will
see you and Jamie on on Well you won't.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
See us, but we are working on a.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Project, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, excellent we'll talk about it some other times, you know,
we for.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
More projects to come out, and uh now, and I'm
really excited for you.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah and so and that kind of like the last
question then on this vein there you mentioned it, there's
so much work here in Boston. Boston's exploding right now,
absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And LA's jealous. Everyone's jealous.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
New York jealous.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
No, no, in New York's New York's New York.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
You know, But how do you feel about the opportunities
that they that there are here in New England versus
the other big markets.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm still I'm still absorbing, you know about them. You
know more about it than I do sometimes. I mean really,
I only say that facetiously because I am in New
York all the time. I'm in New York too much
at the time. I'm here helping my parents most of
the time. But I love what I see in Boston.
I love the art community that's grown in the last
ten years. I love how kids have access to scholarships

(23:03):
and opportunities in school that they never had. I didn't
have when I was in school. Because kids you need,
you know, it's such an important thing to provide opportunity
at the right time. And that's what I feel like
Boston's doing better than just as good as New York, honestly,
in terms of the film market and the casting directors here,
and how much love there is between the community here.

(23:26):
How you know it's because it's a smaller community than
say a market like New York. Everyone knows each other
and there's so much more love there because of it.
And I I genuinely love working in Boston. I just
don't get to work here as much as I want to.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Well, hopefully we'll get to see.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
More, hopefully, and hopefully.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Because that would be wonderful. Black Rabbit, Netflix, check it
out up right now, And where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
They could find me Chris Cybanks dot com. There we go,
dot com, put the middle initial and here you go
to Chris Banks.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Now again, we are hoping for a lot more roles,
but what we're not hoping for is an AI cast
member for yourself, Chris. And that leads us to our
next topic. I call it the future or gimmick. And
this is Hollywood reacting not very happy to an AI actress.
Tilly Norwood. And you said that you had heard about

(24:21):
this before. Yes, this whole thing kind of popped up.
But basically, for those who are unaware, there is a
synthetic talent known as Tilly Norwood created by the company
Particle six, which claims that notable talent agencies were interested
in representing her for work in film and television. I'm
not sure if you saw the clips or like some
of the promo stuff that they included her in, but

(24:43):
basically she was introduced in this AI in a skit
quote skit, comedic skit that was fully AI generated, and
it shows like, you know, these quote talent agents or
people in the industry talking about how it's so hard
to find somebody that's good that can do everything that
they need to do. And then they have one guy
in of like you know, some big wig guy sitting

(25:05):
in a chair and saying, well, we found somebody. It's
Tilly Norwood. And it shows like clips of her kind
of acting or doing stuff and like walking a red
carpet and.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
That's not self satisfying at all, No I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And so the founder of the studio says Norwood will
be the next Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Porman and is
very close to getting a representation deal, and this has
caused shockwaves, so much so sag AFTRA actually released a
statement condemned it, rebuking.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
It, rebuking it strongly so, sag AFTRA saying that they
believe creativity is should and remain human centered, that the
union is opposed to replacing human performers with synthetics. They
go on to say that this Tilly Norwood is not

(25:53):
an actor, but is a character generated by a computer
program that was trained on the work of countless professional
performers without their permission or compensation, has no life experience
to draw from.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
A YadA YadA, YadA.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
So basically a very resounding condemnation of this. Uh And
I think that that's been pretty universal all the way around.
How can you represent a thing that is not human
and have agency representation of that.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I think it's just a gimmick. I think they're trying.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
To promote promote their business exactly. But I think sag
and others have said, hey, if this does end up happening,
we're going to be what is it, protest.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Protests?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, no, no, But like that agent, you know, blacklisting, that
that agent agency that would actually pick up a performer
that is not.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
A human being.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah. The reason why I think this is more a gimmick,
more publicity kind of like they're stirring the po trying
to create drama is because the company, they describe themselves
as the world's leading AI production studio, and they've been
incorporating or making things that like, oh, we can make
somebody surfing in a wave, or we can make fish
swimming through the water, or a bird or an animal

(27:17):
or a bear like on a mountaintop walking through snow.
And so I think that's where it's trying to focus on.
But I think maybe the character of creating this AI
actress is the thing to make publicity, to get them
in the news, get them talking and stuff. But it
is a big concern because, as we mentioned in previous episode,
we've have actors have their bodies scanned and then being

(27:39):
used to like cheer in the background. And so what
if you just instead of not even using the actress
to cheer in the background or even their scanned versions,
you have AI characters popped in the background cheering and
hooting and hollering and stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
No, so have you been digitally scanned?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
A lot of people have.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I've refused, but I have. I mean, this is a
dangerous conversation because I'm one of the only actors. I
was one of the first actors to actually work alongside Ai.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Another project on Netflix called Dirty Pop. It was about
the making of in Sync. And but the difference between
Tilly Norwood and what I did with Netflix is, uh
that Tilly Norwood is what you said, a synthetic, artificial thing.
As a talent agency, how can you represent a How

(28:31):
is a talent agency? It like a thing doesn't have
any talent, so how can you represent it? But so
with my project, Dirty Pop, they gave me so much material,
so much journal. The man who I played was called
Ron Perlman. He the guy who's a manager of in Sync.
Not a good guy, kind of a slime ball, but

(28:53):
they wanted to They wanted to bring him back from
the dead because they had an audio of his voice,
that his journals. They had all kinds of stuff that
pointed to his intent and what he was really all
about with his scams. So they gave me all of
that for a month to basically study, and then they

(29:14):
brought me on set to read and they basically used
my voice and merged it with his voice to recreate him. Wow,
that is how I feel like you should use artificial
intelligence or artificial technology, whatever you want to call it, Tilly,

(29:35):
that whole creating a synthetic performer out of scratch and
then training it on copyright and material and people's hard
work is I feel like it's just theft, but we
haven't defined it yet. So here we are accepting theft.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know, Yeah, there was the movie The Brutalist, Remember
the controversy because people were saying they used AI to
dub their voices to change into like a different to
sound like a certain dialect. And you know, I think
we've talked about like the pros and cons to that,
whether it's it's whether it's a good thing or a
bad thing. If it helps to enhance the actor's performance,
you could consider it kind of like make up, because

(30:14):
you're you're putting something over the actor's performance and to
refine their appearance to make a look or sound or
act like a certain character or person. And so you
could argue that that using AI to modulate a voice
to to create closer characteristics to match that character. I
think you can argue that that's okay. I can also

(30:36):
see an argument against that me too.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
As long as the actor is getting paid.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
So in your case, it was something you put in,
the effort, you put in the work, you were there
on the set, they used your voice, you were paid
for it, you were represented.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
You know that. That all kind of passes the muster.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Let's say, and I did it, I did it right
before Struck two three years ago. And what do we
strike over at that? Exactly? Yea, that exact thing. And
so I was doing the right after we wrapped is
when we went on strike, and I was I kind
of felt guilty, I mean not guilty. I needed to
understand the technology. How do you understand that unless you
work with it. But now I see the abuse of it,

(31:20):
Like you know, everybody's abusing it. Everybody's abusing it. But
Jason uses a little bit of it in the show too,
because it is what it is, like a paint brush.
It can help you, but it shouldn't replace anything or
create anything. It should enhance, right.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
And which is what doesn't make sense about this performer
or quote unquote right the Tilley Norwood because in the
same breath they're saying, oh no, we're not actually looking
to replace human performers. It's sort of like an artistic tool.
But in the same breath they're saying, this is the
next Scarlett Johansen. No, it's not the next Scarlet Johansson.

(31:57):
Scarlett ing Hansen is a human being decades. He's worked
decades and worked your ass off, and this is a
computer program. There are people who argue that, you know,
AI is a tool for people who don't have talent
to like audiune right, exactly right.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
False, to use some technology.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Right to get paid and to make money off of
talent that they don't have.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
So I'm just wondering what you think of that.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's true, and that's really why you have to use
it very mindfully, and like I'm grateful with my experience.
I mean, I was kind of disappointed when I did
the project because I thought that there would be at
least one reporter that would reach out to the director
or me just to get a sense of why you
would use AI, just so the director could tell the
people that he really didn't use it. He only used

(32:50):
it to kind of like fuse my voice with his,
and like I'm from Boston, but the guy's from Queen's.
He picked the guy he picked the voice who sounded
most like Lou and for whatever reason, that was me.
But I feel that's how I feel like you can
use technology to lift, to elevate instead of create or
replace is just and auto tune is the same way

(33:17):
where it's been abused like so much, and it takes
away from a performance, It takes away from an individual's possibility.
I feel like because people hide in that, so don't
use technology in that way. But if it can help you,
if it can you know, like I can't speak any
of the language, but if I am in a moment
of time where I need it and I can translate

(33:38):
and it can communicate, it can help me communicate, then
it actually helps us. So as long as you're using
it in a way that helps and doesn't hurt anybody,
I feel like it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
YEA question for you, do you feel like in the
future when you log into your streaming services that there
will be different categories, that there will be human made movies, animations, sure,
and then purely AI content.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I hope created.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
I mean, I hope they I hope they classify it.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I think I think that I could see
that becoming an inevitability because at the end of the day,
they're all in it for making money. And if people
don't mind watching AI, I'll just call it AI slop.
Then then then they'll then they'll put it out there.
So at the very least they should categorize it in

(34:30):
that in that way, maybe you know, before the movie
starts to put like, this movie was fully made or
mostly made with AI artificial intelligence, proceed with caution.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
But right now they're just kind of shoving it down
our face. Yeah, even informing us, yeah, there's a little
bit of fake you or this is a lie.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah. Oh one last thing else, because my reading my notes,
I was watching the clip of Tilly Norwood and that
little skit, and you know when you watch something that
that Uncanny Valley, you know something is off by this person.
You know, at first glam it looks normal, kind of passable.
When you actually look at it, you're paying attention to it,
something is off. And with all these AI characters as

(35:07):
talking about Tillie Norwood in the very end she's introduced.
While they're talking, I felt like I was getting double vision,
like blurry vision, because you know when you get like
a picture and an image that's kind of blurry. You're
kind of trying your eyes are trying to focus on
it because it looks weird. Yeah, that's what it will
kind of look like, so kind of it kind of
made me feel sick watching it because I'm trying to
focus on the abnormalities of the moves.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
There's something.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, the outside movie correctly, your teeth don't look
correct eyebrows, you know, shifting and things are off by it.
And so anyway, that's just one note that I think
interesting that even if.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
There was like an AI category, I don't know who
would be watching it and who would be consuming it,
you know.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, it's like it's almost too unofficial sometimes. Yeah, cartoons
are cartoons are drawn generated and there's something really there's
something human humanist in that. But there's something really just
weird about this whole. Like I kind of like when
you take your elf and you you do those kind
of fun videos like you know politics, I feel like,

(36:05):
you know, you can you can do you can use
yourself in that kind of way because you're only devaluing
your own self. But don't take anybody's work. Don't take
anybody's output.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah, if you have to base your whole company on theft,
then maybe you should maybe, yeah, do you.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Have a company really just like a cartel?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
You know, Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb. Well
let's see, well, speaking of uh cartels.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
No, no, you're trying to get.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
The Swifties after us. Okay, so I'm not sure if.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
You don't know, I was peaking of beef with the
Swifties recently. So a couple of weeks ago, I watched
what was the Weapons? I watched the movie and I
reviewed it and and I was trying to buy I'm
an amc a list of hub member or whatever. So
onhe on my app. There we go when on my app,
Yeah that's nice am from a yeah, curly price please.

(37:05):
So I was buying tickets online for Weapons to go
to the showtime and okay, cool, pick the movie, pick
the seat, and going to check out, use my a list,
you know, points whatever, and it says, okay, purchase ticket
for twenty bucks, and I'm like, purchase, No, this should
just be as normal. You get a ticket.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
And he went four times one week.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I know, I know, no, and this is my first
time this week, but it kept saying like, oh, there's
there's a warning, saying there you can't use your A
list rewards or features because the system is kind of down.
And I tried this on my phone, tried it on
my laptop, and you know I and eventually I called
AMC and like, hey, I'm not sure if you guys
noticed this, but there's a problem saying I can't it's
asking me to buy it because the rewards are not

(37:44):
being are not eligible right now. And then they tell me, oh,
the system is being overrun by Swifties because they're all
logging in to buy tickets for the Taylor Swift album
release in theaters. And so I'm going on this huge rant,
manding justice and calling out Swifties and demanding make sure
that my information was not publical lists because I didn't

(38:06):
want the Swifties coming after all my face.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, made sure that it was you know, they knew
it was him.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well. Fortunately I went to a new movie yesterday and
I was not interrupted, despite when when I was leaving,
I did have to, like, you know, get through hordes
of like moms and their daughters that were lining up
and then filling up the lobby and concessions area to
watch the new Taylor Swift movie. Taking you know, taking

(38:32):
over the box office this weekend, expected to make thirty
five to forty million dollars for its Life of a
Showgirl release. Are you a Swifty fan? Are you a
Swifty I.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
My cousins are massive Swifties. I like her, I just don't.
I don't know much.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, but I expect her like her.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
But I don't know anything about this, Like is it
a movie live album? It's a movie.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I would think, Yeah, she recorded her new album and
now it's out in theaters. It's like a so that
who can't afford to go to the concerts, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Can experience it, which is which is very nice. It's
kind of like what happened with Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So I was asking Jamie before this started because I'm
confused because I know a lot of millennials my age,
you know, grew up when you know when Taylor Swift
was popping up. You know, we're around that, we're around
the around the same age as her, and so you know,
we were fans of her or we know of her
beginning from the beginning. I'm leaving the movie theater, and
the movie theaters filled with like ten year old girls

(39:28):
and their moms, And I'm like, are the moms bringing
the girls or are the girls bringing the moms? Like what?
Or is everybody down for this? And so like I
I was so confused of like how is she reaching
all these demographics? She's just amazing, is yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I think she is.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'm not a hater. I don't hate hate hate hate,
but really, but don't mess up my movie experience. I'm
just confused. No, no, no o, I'm just confused by
like the whole like everyone loves her.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I think your star is just that big. Yes, yeah,
I think she's just that good.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
She is that good. She is that amazing. Her music
is that good. She writes her own music, and she's
a business maven. She makes really smart decisions. She's just
she's super smart.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
She's a pioneer. Like she she's a pioneer. She really
kind of redefined the music industry in a way. And
I think that's really what kids find in her source,
in her inspiration, because she is inspirational. And now we
get our own royal wedding.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Oh yeah, yeah you know that. Yeah they should do
it on a football field, but with like you know,
like as if it was like a Super Bowl we
should get married at the Super Bowl, should get at
halftime show.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Just make it a big ass, big freaking thing as you.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Can pos make it, and then's live stream into movie
theaters so we can get That's how much joy? That's
what thing? I love that that that she has also
released a concert was it last year or so? In theaters?
And so I brought millions of people back to the
movie theaters who don't normally go. So that I do appreciate.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
And I love seeing I love seeing a movie lobby swamped.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I love seeing the concessions stand swamped.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And people behind the counters just like fras. I want
to see that.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I want that pop on the field in the air
because they can't scoop it in fast and exactly. Yeah,
I missed that stuff. You know, it used to be
every Friday night in my childhood.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, so that's good. I like that. What's also musically well,
he didn't come out with theaters K pop, the Demon
Hunters Pop.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Demon Hunters did have a short theatrical release for for
a week.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
But now what are they doing?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
They're having live performances.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, do you know what?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Keep? Do you know the because Jamie did a review
on the K Pop Demon Hunter's movie and the soundtrack
has been like top of the charts right for like
whatever for the past like six seven.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Weeks internationally too, not just here, but so keep pop
Demon Hunters. It's what all the kids love right now
too nice. Also on Colicks, it's exactly what it sounds like.
They're K pop stars who fight demons while singing songs,
but it actually has a really good plot and people
like love, love love it. So it did end up

(42:08):
having a short theatrical release, and now the singers behind it,
right the voices behind the trio of Hunter Tricks are
going to be doing their first live performance on was
it Jimmy Fallon? Is it?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, Jimmy Fallon? That's right, yeah on the tenth I
believe now that's getting to me.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, it's coming back to me now, right.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
But it's really really cool because one of the singers
actually went through the whole like you know, the the
K pop like boot camp where they teach them how
to be celect like they teach them how to be
pop stars and stuff like that. She went through it
for like ten years, never got a debut, and it's
finally like finding fame in this way because she is

(42:54):
an incredible singer and an incredible performer.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
So it's animated.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Characters coming to life, sure, right, not a but the voices,
the actual voices behind them, so we get. I don't
know if they're actually going to dress up like the characters,
if they're going to be like in the costumes with
the big giant purple hair or whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
But I'm digging it. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
My kids are the sound of it, the sound of it.
How young do they go?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Like?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
How young are the fans?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
All ages?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
My daughter's five and she she loves it, loves it,
loves it.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
So about that.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
So if you're a K pop demon lover, check it
out on Jimmy Fallon on the tenth Superman Big. I'm
not sure if you saw Superman in theaters or recently.
It's on HBO Max right now. Actually rewatched it watching
the theaters. We watched it a couple of days ago,
and it's a lovely, lovely movie. If you like Superman
character like, it's very true to the to the hearts,

(43:50):
the true heart of the character. Garnered thirteen million dollars.
I'm sorry million dollars. I think much more than that,
but it garnered thirteen yeah, thirteen million views on HBO
Max within his first ten days of streaming, making it
the platform's biggest film launched since Barbie twenty twenty three. Really,
so yeah, I know some people were saying it underperformed

(44:11):
at the movie theater. I think, you know, it did
very very well at the movie theater, and it opened
up a new DC universe, So it opened the floodgates
for more James Gunn movies down the road and anyway.
So I thought that was a little fun cool thing
that it's seeing even more success on streaming service.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I think there have been a few movies like.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
That where, oh you know, they would get a new
life exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
They really explode on the streaming services.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
So if you kind of do, I'm kind of shocked
about what Black Rabbits streaming numbers are. Oh yeah, it's
like twenty two million. I mean it's like, I think
it's it's Netflix as high as watch most watch show ever.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh right, it's crazy, excellent.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
If you could play any superhero Marvel or DC, who
would you play.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Well, I wouldn't play superhero. I have to do the joker.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Oh, okay to do that.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
It's always been you know, I want to do it.
I want to do it, but Heath already did it.
So they'll get somebody else to do it.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
They'll make twenty more movies. They'll make twenty more jokers.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I think we had enough white jokers. We probably had
enough white joke.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Just a couple of different ones.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Cool, Well, time for new ones, Time.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
For another joker. Let's see Well another movie that I
saw just yesterday and it's getting rave reviews, and I
think I think I told you Jamie. Maybe maybe not,
but like I think it's my second favorite film of
the year after Sinners. That is one battle after another,
starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, Benicio del Toro, who's fantastic

(45:38):
in this film, Regina Hall Yeah, Teana Taylor, and Chase Finnity.
This is her only third title credit credit title, which
the right verbiage title credit yes so, but Chase Infinity.
She plays Leo's daughter in this film, and she is
going to blow up because she's fantastic in this film too.
This is one of those films where, like I went

(45:59):
in knowing very little, very very little to anything, about
this film, Like I saw like a fifteen second teaser
when it came out, when that came out maybe months ago,
and that's just a shot of like someone shooting a
gun or someone chasing and Leo on the phone, like
a yelling at in a payphone. So I knew nothing.
And then I heard like one line in one of
the trailers before I stopped watching the entire thing because

(46:21):
I wanted to go in fresh and so I think
that's how you should go into this movie. If you
know anything about it, don't learn anything more about it. Okay,
I'm a little hesitant to get this synopsis, but yeah,
this is because.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I don't know what it's about.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I just know.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I just know that looks fun.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
It's very fun. It's okay, I will say. It's like
it's like the movie Taken, you know, Liam Neeson. It
has like that Taken kind of storyline, but a little
bit lighter, but at the same time dealing with very
heavy topics that are very relatable today, very satisfying ending.

(46:56):
Great direction in cinematography is directed by, yeah, by Paul
Thomas Anderson, and he there's one sequence in the very
in the final third act where it's not a chase
scene exactly, but the entire scene how it's shot. It's
mesmerizing and it keeps you at the edge of your seat,
the entire like three minute chase scene. It's it's very

(47:21):
simple but very very impactful. So without giving away any spoilers,
I would say, go watch one battle after another. It's
in theaters right now. I can see Sean Penn, Benicio
del Toro Chase Infinity getting nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
That really good. I can even see Leo getting nominated

(47:41):
for Best Actor. It's a it's a really good film.
So again, my second favorite of the year so far.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
It's interesting. Did you feel like Leo's getting rave reviews
for the performance?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
He's really good in this film.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Paul Thomas Anderson worked how many times with Daniel day Lewis,
and it's a it's feel. It feels like he gets
pt gives an actor the ultimate runway, yeah, to make
his choices, and that's probably what we get the best
out of Leo.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, you know, oh well, speaking of also about Paul
Thomas Anderson, he has a connection to the Coolidge Corner
Theater in Brookline. You know, I'm not sure if you heard,
but he released maybe five roles of film in VistaVision,
which is a very rare form of like of how
they shoot movies on film. And instead of shooting like
you know, when you're watching a projector, it's it's like

(48:27):
one reel up here, one reel down here, and it's
rolling down and it's you know, the projector shooting light,
so it's rolling downwards. So that's how the images are
in the thirty five millimeter film on VistaVision, it's turned sideways.
And so instead of shooting on like on a film
role like this maybe like this, it is shooting it
like this and it's going sideways, and so that gives

(48:48):
a different kind of a vibe or like an image
quality to it. So yeah, and so and and so.
Coolidge Corner Theater is one of five theaters in the
world with a VistaVision. Yeah, the general manager, he actually
did an interview for WBZ recently and this week and
he said, yeah, like Paul Thomas Anderson sent them a
letter saying, hey, would you guys mind showing the visca

(49:09):
vision version of this film at your theater. It's like, yeah,
of course, Paul, because like they're They're tight like that
for some reason. I don't know why how they're so tight,
but they are. And so if you're in the Boston area,
go to a coolish corner theater watch one battle after
another on Visavision the Yeah, beautiful theater. I love the theater,
So check it out. Have you watched anything recently that

(49:30):
you're not in I have?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I know. I have been such slacking it's not even fun.
I'm so embarrassed. I haven't even seen Sinners yet.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
It's horrible.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Barely I barely, but but you know, and now Daniels
is back, and you know, back on screen. I gotta
go see Daniel. Yeah, yeah, I got to catch up
on a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
A lot of good stuff. Well, go watch Cinners, go
watch another battle after another. Yeah, Weapons was pretty good.
I reviewed that a couple of weeks ago. That's the
horror film with the missing children who all leave at
two seven team in the morning and nobody knows where
they went or why. It's a it's a twenty four film,
Josh Rowland, it's really good film. Have you watched anything recently?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
So?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm watching something very silly. It's called bone Appetite. Your Majesty,
The Chef and the King. It's a Korean drama that
is also airing on Netflix. Netflix Knocking out of the Park.
I just cancel my HBO Max subscription and then Superman
comes Outflix.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Jeez, we gotta swap passwords. But it's a really cute.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
It's sort of a it's a a kve pop romantic drama,
not k pop. Sorry, it's a Korean romantic drama, by
the by the numbers, you know, it's got all of
the common tropes. But if that's what you love, it's
very lovely and it's what I like to watch, so
it's it's enjoyable. It's got a great story.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
It's about a from modern times who comes across a
magical cookbook who sends her back into the past and
then she's cooking.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
For you, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
That's fun.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
She's cooking for the king.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
But then she brings all her modern like food knowledge,
culinary knowledge to amaze their taste buds. And so you
learn a lot about cooking and food and how to
source food and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
That's phenomenon. I'm too boring. I listened to too many
audio books and music and audio books and music take
up most of my time. I'm very selective with what
I want, which isn't bad, but you know, I'm missing
out on a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Well, we can catch up on the movies, but reading
is excellent, It is awesome, and I wish we could
do more of that.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
So this, this show, it just ended, and.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
I have a rant prepared for the ending, unfortunately, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Going to keep it brief.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I'm going to keep it brief and maybe not spoilery,
maybe because it just came out, won't your just see
had had its final episode and everything up until I
think the very very last episode is just lovely and
wonderful and satisfying.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
But when you have an.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Ending, right, So, they get separated by time.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Spoiler alerts. If you want to fast forward to our
sine quote, you can do that right now. She goes
back in time, and at the end, she goes forward
in time. Right, they get separated by time. The cookbook
is not working, there's no full moon, right, there's no
way for them to reach each other.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
She falls in love with the Kick.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
And so they've each vowed to find each other again
over time, and she's back in modern times.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
She has to learn how to be.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Michelin star chef again and get back into living without him, and.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
You know, it's very dramatic. It's like, how are they
going to get back together? How are they going to
find each other? And he just shows up.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Then he just shows up and he's well dressed, all modern,
and he's like, I've come to I've come to get
my chef back, and da da da da da here
for you, and it's you know, and it's it's nice,
but it's like, how did you get here?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
He's like it's a secret. It's like none of it
is explained. None of its explained. It's not earned.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
It's like you set up all of this tension, and
it would have been wonderful to see how they got
back to each other. But it's just it's like they
ran out of writing.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
They're just like, you know what, happy And he's like,
there was another there was another magical cookbook under my bed,
and I made some peanut butter. And then secret like
it was.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
They watched Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Was there a line where he's like and when she's
back in time during his era, and he's like, oh,
what's in this food? And she's like it's a secret.
Is that a callback at least?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, not at all. No, it's not. It's not so.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
And it's like he comes back, he's back in her
time and he's himself. But then all of these other
characters are in her timeline, but they're just they just
look like the people from from before. They're just like
I don't know the ancestors or something. So it's like
it doesn't even.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
For like a season two, like I'll tell you in
season two.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I don't know. I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Normally they only have like one season of a show
like that. But it just it felt so unearned. It
felt like just it's just like really, and I was
screaming in my house and my husband's like, are your
fictional characters having problems again? And I'm like yes, And
so I really enjoyed it. But when when an ending
isn't earned, no, it just it kills it kills it

(54:35):
all in.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
No, please don't.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I was gonna watch that. I was gonna watch that.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Oh yeah, you were totally immediately. So anyways, but you
know what, we can watch what we can play together
right now, and I think this is the first time
we have a guest playing with us is a sine quotes.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Now, I know you just said you haven't watched any
movies recently, but I don't think that will that will
affect are our winning streak because we're we're on a
what's our winning streak? Oh, we're on a fifteen game
winning streak. So basically, for those who are unfamiliar with
cine quote, it's basically like wordle There is a movie
of the day and you have to guess what movie
it is based off of quotes that they give you.

(55:18):
We have up to five quotes five guesses to get
a right, and if not, you know, you lose. So
today's game, if you want to play at home, will
blame me forever. We'll blame me forever. You'll be you
be are our wild card.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
If I screw it up, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Excellent, Okay, So today's game, this is number ten twenty
four if you want to play at home. So we're
gonna play our first quote starting in three two one.
What's so funny? Well, you know I was just wearing
a disguise.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
You guys are stuck looking like that.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Hmmm, that sounds like who framed Roger Rabbit? Maybe this
is something like that. That would be my guess. What
do you think?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I'm not sure, but I will. I could put it in. Yeah,
I want to hear one more time.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Sure, what's so funny?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Well, you know I was just wearing a disguise. You
guys are stuck looking like that. I have no other guess.
I could put in who framed Roger Rabbit? I say,
who framed? That's another great movie?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
No, okay, okay, guess number two, quote number two and
three to two one. You know, back when we do
Luis used to work for me, they would fight over everything. Oh,
it's like a mob movie.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Possibly. I don't have any guesses on this one.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I feel like it's a cartoon.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
It does sound cartoonish.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
You know, back when we.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Do Luis used to work for me, they would fight
over everything.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I don't know. Let's go to the next quote. No
guesses from me.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I don't want to if I say things? Is that
like a gud?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
No, no, I mean if you if you say something,
it's a guest. But we have to. It doesn't matter
how many times your guesses. You can put in whatever
keeping my mouth shut?

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Okay, quote speed that France Speed Francha is triple speed.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Nights and decent Queen?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Is it cars?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Is it cars?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
The cars to rat D Let's let's try it rat
to the voice. Let's see no not right a to Okay,
you have two more guesses. Guess number four.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Let's see pulled field pace the cars way.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
To really come by each one with my friend?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah? Is it like cars one?

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Tho?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Like cars two? There's also the Major's Adventure, the one
played by Larry the Cable. How about cars too?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Or like? All right, let's give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Let's see that feels good.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Let's see cars. Uh, there's two three? Okay, how about
two two, let's try to We'll try two there go.
We got it and a lot of I think most
people got it on the fourth vote as well, so
you can see. You know, four percent got on the
first guess for on the second, and then seven percent
didn't get it at all.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
You're right about the animated.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
No good job. All right, well we'll say that as
a win. Thank you so much. Christopher joining us on
the hub on Hollywood. Yeah again, Christopher, where folks can find.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
You, We're gonna see Banks dot com.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Chrissybanks dot com.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Much Black Rabbit on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, leave your review What do you think about Black Rabbit?
Leave your review of One Battle after Another? What about
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(59:08):
everything for the talk about Hollywood. I'm James, I'm Jamie.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
See you next time you