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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's Stu from Spareworld on the Kevin Powell Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Hey guys, what's going on. It's Kevin Powell from Kevin
Pelle Podcast, Day three.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
While in life, I'm here with Stu from Spirit World.
How are we doing today, stew good Man, How are
you good? It's been a couple of years since we
last talked, but you guys have grown and you have
El Dorado out and it's still fucking awesome. Right before
we started, you were already talking about you're in writing
mood already.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So what's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, we got home from we did a run with
obituary and nails and me. Yeah, and then like with
my day job back home, I've had some free time
and so pretty much wrote another record.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So free time, what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's great, Like you know, you don't know what happens,
and then you pick up the guitar and a couple
of days nothing comes out, and then all of a sudden, like.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Right now, the last time we got the groove, you know, Yeah,
last time we talked, you were talking it was the
second albums, like one of them, I'm blanking.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
On the name. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
At Western Yes, Western Cycle, and you were talking about
writing Helderado, it's a little bit more of a country approach.
But still, you guys, what about this new stuff? What's
wrong with that same thing? Just pushing it further over blending? Okay,
I think it's going to be more of a more
blending some of the songs and then really pushing some
of the country stuff too.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be all over the place, but
that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
What are some of the influences going into the writing
process here.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I mean it's tough because I feel like there's the
staples of like heavy stuff where like Integrity and Slayer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And Nails and Abituary.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, and I shed the like I guess I just
listened to on the rag but then maybe like a
guitar wise on some of the stuff, A lot of Telecaster,
a lot of like Dwight Yocom and Marty Stewart fabulous
superlatives have been probably the last five years. I listened
to that band all the time. So I think that
(01:54):
stuff is rubbing off Mavericks. Like. It's tough because like
the stuff when I back to it, like I can
kind of hear what I.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Was going for but they turn into their own things.
So it's tough right place, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Now, you guys, you know Pigan Rhythms came out in
twenty twenty one. Twenty Five's talk about a little bit
of the evolution here. Do you have like a different
mindset when you go into writing these albums or what
do you kind of do prior to all right, it's
time to go.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I just really follow like my like what I'm excited about,
you know, like try and just go with We have
this cool spot where we can do anything that's in
the like really heavy, Like we can do blast beats
and like, especially on this next record, we're going to
get to the point where I can do like murder
Ballad with the pedal steel and nothing really heavy about
(02:47):
it except maybe the subject matter. So I think I
love all that stuff, and I'm really excited about being
able to, Like on our live show, we've been pounding
the pavement doing you know, playing with anybody we can
do and support stuff, and we're getting to the point where,
like the other night we did a headliner and like
our crowd is like we have a pretty cold following
(03:08):
of people that fuck with what we do. Yeah, And
I think that'll translate well into having our live show
where instead of being like just ultra heavy shit the
entire hour, you know, we'll be able to have a
nice show where there's just some different vibes. So I'm
thinking about that a lot too, with the writing of
like what do we need and like a headlining set
(03:29):
when we start playing bigger rooms and festivals.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I was gonna say, you're a stranger with festivals.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Now, yeah, and like it's cool doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We have not announce, but we're doing a couple more
these next year and a tour around it. So I
feel like Europe, we did a lot of the fests
last time we were there, but I feel like we
finally whatever, We've got our foot in the door. We're
doing all the big cool shit.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I'll today, I finally get to watch you guys live.
And I've just been watching like the clips or like
the YouTube videos, and yeah, so let's pretend I don't
know who you guys are.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm afresh.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
What can someone like me expect walking up to see
Spirit World.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Bang in your head?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Like the set like today, we're just playing all bangers.
We get thirty minutes. I mean, it's as many fucking riffs,
the best songs we got. Yeah, not a lot of
yap and just like if you like Slayer and like
the groove of Pantera and like Hate Breed and shit
like that, that's what we that's what we love, what
we grew up on. And so our live set when
(04:28):
we open with these heavy bands, it's.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Just ass beaters.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Amazing. Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It should be cool. I don't get why. Here's a
personal question for me. The name Spirit World? Does this
come from you? U hawk a show? Or no?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What U hawky show? Anime?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Fuck no, I'm straight from it comes from Young Guns, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And there's a scene where they're tripping on peyote and
they're like going through the village and they're like, why
aren't they killing us.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Because we're in the Spirit World. Asshole, they can't say us.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I know you're a big film from that too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, So on the on our original demo, we had
that sound clips kicked off the first pressing of our
demo and then I think it got flagged something happening.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's not that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's not on Spotify, like when you listen to our
demo but on the actual demo if you have the physical.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Copy, like and that's the benefit of the physical copies nowadays.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Remember those Yeah yeah, there were only like one hundred
of those, so I see them get Like, people pay
crazy shit for our stuff. The other night a guy
was telling me and it was like trying to buy
a certain record of ours for like one hundred and
fifty bucks, Like, bro, I got one of my house,
like just fucking it, bas me on fucking bail it
to you, don't.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I mean cool people want our stuff, like I love
collect But at the other hand, I'm like some dude
making like one hundred and twenty bucks on a record.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah I got ten other right.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm bah I got you well awesome we we.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I mean we talked a little bit about the influence
of Slayer, Apriy.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Bants Era, what got what was.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Like the record or couple of records I got.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You in the rock or heavy metal.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
My brother Nick standing over there.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
He's like six seven years older than me, and so
him and his like homies were listening to a lot
of Danzig, Pantera, White Zombie Fits, Social.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
D so like on the.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Punk like metal end like that stuff really was just
like I'd get in the car.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And like wear in the backseat, like that's what they're banging.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You were just always around it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, So that stuff just like was always there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And so I think like I got a copy of
Rain and Blood where like the tape was the same
on both sides and like that thing, Like I remember
listening to it just being like, oh shit, I'm gonna
be in trouble. It's dangerous, and then you flip it
over and you're like, so that one I remember because
that was little, you know, like much little thing like
(06:53):
probably my mom would have liked, I feel like Slayer.
And then the first thing I bought when like I
had like eight bucks or something, my mom was like, yeah,
go pick something out at the record store, got Master Puppets.
I feel like those two like when you're a little
guy and like it's your first thing that like you
have a copy of it, you just square out and
(07:14):
then people hear my band. I think it makes sense
because I'm like basically the same like ten year old,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I would say, yeah, Thrash great fix was the
Gateway drug.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So we're at a festival today and I said earlier,
you guys know strangers festivals. Now do you prefer the
close shows or the festivals?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And why you know?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's I like it all really because like a festival
like today, like it'll probably be packed. We played Louisville
with Obituary in May and it was great, Like I
think it was like a five six hundred cap room
and it went off. It was awesome. But like this,
probably most of those folks will be there waiting to
see like devil Driver and Trivium and machine Head and
(07:59):
might not be aware of this, but like that energy
when because we come out in like neuty suits and
like you get that initial thing where people are like whoa,
what is this? And then when the set gets going,
like you just feel the rift just like break them loose.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And so I love that feeling when like the crowd's big.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And then sometimes we play these festivals and like end
up with these huge pits tons of crowdsurfers and it's
hard to describe that when you're just like I see
if people.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And then you see the emerged sales increase and then
you see still numbers go up.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Like we're all like punk rock hardcore dudes too.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So like we've played shows and basements and the FW
halls and fucking Taco shot everything in between. Right, So
we've played and had great shows, playing to ten kids
and then like today maybe they'll be like five thousand people.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You do, And then the other night had.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Like a pack headliner with like two hundred kids in
a little space.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I like it all, man, They're all fun.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, pros and calling, but you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Know, yeah, and we like our band, like, we love
the stuff we play and so we can have fun practicing.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
You guys have been overseas a few times. Yeah, what's
the biggest difference you've noticed performing overseas and performing in
the States.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean the main thing coming from like the DIY
scene is it's just so much more professional. Like the
first few times you go over there and you're like,
oh shit, there's like green rooms at every venue and
there's fucking you know, you get catering, and it just
like at the level we tour the States. Yeah, it's
like that. But when you start out like we came up,
(09:36):
we cut our teeth play in I mean, you're lucky
to get a bottle of water and get paid. Everybody
does it because they love it. You sleep on the floor,
and so probably the guy that booked the show, you
know what I mean. So for me, the biggest thing
was like that when I first went over there, it's like,
oh shit, band said, I consider to be like pretty
small DIY band.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
When they go over there, it's like they're treating like
real rock bands.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and then live it's for us.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think the style of music we play is so aggressive.
The shows tend to be kind of the same weather.
It doesn't matter where we are. People go to headbang
and circle bit and like so I think that energy
everybody dance is a little different and different, but they
all kind of go off to the same riff, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What advice would you give a band that is starting
today and.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Why just fucking do it?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Do it with your friends, write what you want and
don't worry about anybody else, Like if the.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Sometimes it's a long road, you know what I mean,
Like love it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You just do what you do, do it because you
like it, and then whatever because you can't really spare.
World has been kind of a star cross blessed thing
where we like we just do a ton of cool shit,
get a lot of opportunities. But for like ten fifteen
years before that, like we've all played in bands all
like you know what I mean, and none of those bands.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Ever like blew up like this.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So when this happened, it's like we enjoy it a
lot more, but we also enjoyed playing in our old bands,
you know, like booking shows and being part of the scene.
Like it's just something that me personally, I've been doing
since I was like fifteen, So it's I find a
lot of them.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I just get a lot out.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Of this community, you know, whether it's the punk rock scene,
the hardcore scene, the metal like I've just kind of
been in all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
For my whole adult life.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, So I think if you find something you're missing
in your life, like in music, like do it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Like Verry Wilson.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I mean, I ask every artist this question and I
get all kinds of adve answers. So thank you for
sharing that, because I do have musicians. I watched this
and maybe there are new musicians.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So and you don't have to be a musician like
I am not. Like people hear the riffs I write
and they think that I'm like.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Some metal guy, and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I can't even tune a guitar like I s thought like,
I just like to make racket and I like to
listen to my favorite records and like then kind of
you know, worship the shit I like.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I can't play a scale. I can't do any of
that shit. So there's literally no excuse to not do
you just do it, yeah, man, you can do anything.
What can fans expect from Spirit World in twenty twenty
six twenty twenty six, Probably a new record. We already
got some touring stuff going out, and I just feel
like it's like about to break on a new level,
(12:35):
like Eldorado did really well, and like the momentum. I
feel like we're getting pushed where we're kind of accepted
in more and more spots.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You know, the name's just kind of getting out there.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I know, you're playing lower to Wife and it's like, yeah,
it's so much bigger than last year.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's like, yeah, this is huge, man, I didn't know
it was so big. We were walking around yesterday we
kicked it. I was like, damn, this is like reminds
me like Hellfest or something. Fans were too slight, fucking massive.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
We were here last year and it's four days, but
it got cut because two days in there was a
big hurricane that came through.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Slayer reunited, right, but they got cut. So all the
people that want to see Slayer last year came out.
All the people that want to see these bands from
overseas are flying out. Seven stages, one hundred and seventy
five plus band like it's huge. So yeah, I'm excited
for you guys to play. I'm excited to see you
guys today. Any fun words you guys want to see
two fans now, just.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Be cool, go to shows. Do you be safe?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Lay off the fucking fentanyl whatever else? Sh it's dangerous.
I don't know, man, be cool.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Be cool, Stu, appreciate a little bit your times you
Thank you, Stu from Spirit World. Elderados out now they're
gonna put out maybe hopefully that new record in twenty
twenty six, but get ready for new music. Regardless of
these guys, We'll see you next time.