Mark asks why Democrats aren't demanding the resignation of DPI chief Jill Underly for her agency's coverup of predator teachers. Also: The Democrats become Communist with the Mamdani election in New York, comically weak criminal charges against a local police chief and Mark's mixed assessment of former Vice President Dick Cheney.
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Sometimes history repeats itself. There's a story in the news
in Wisconsin right now that, like the earlier story. As
I said, this is a story that's repeating itself. There's
a lot of similarities in the way people have wanted
to look the other way and pretend that they're not
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seeing what they're seeing. The same thing happened several decades ago.
When you got reports they were scattered one here, one
way over there of Roman Catholic priests messing her with kids,
mostly boys, and there were just a lot of people
who wanted to look the other way. The former Milwaukee
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County District Attorney Mike McCann consulted with the Milwaukee Archdiocese
and he famously advised, take care of it, no need
to bring criminal charges, etc. This was going on all
over the country. Bishops and cardinals and the Catholic Church
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were well, let's work with the person. The person could repent.
We believe in repentance and forgiveness. The person's had problems,
the family doesn't want anything to go public, and even
though these reports were coming in, there were a whole
lot of people who looked the other way and simply
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didn't want to acknowledge that it was going on. And
we see what the result of that was. We lost
twenty to twenty five years in addressing the problem, and
the Catholic Church ended up with a massive hit to
its credibility. Then everything blew up and the situation has
been largely resolved. You hear about these types of cases
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almost never anymore, but in the process, the church had
its reputation damaged, the story repeating itself. It is just
clear to me, with all of these cases that we
have and now the report that came out of the
cap Times of Madison, that we have a crisis in
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Wisconsin of way more perverted teachers than we imagined in
the same fashion that we go back forty to fifty
years that was going on in the Catholic Church. Every
indication that this is being covered up, with the chief
cover upper being Jill Underly, the head of the Wisconsin
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Department of Public Instruction, We're going to attempt to lift
the veil on this storm and talk about its political
implications as we move forward here on today's podcast. Have
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Republican candidate for governor Washington County Executive, held a video
conference today, once again drawing attention to his call for
Jill Underlead to resign as head of the Department of
Public Instruction. Underley, who skipped out on a legislative hearing
attempting to get some answers as to why DPI has
been caught covering up one hundreds of cases of inappropriate
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behavior and grooming by teachers in public schools, is now
finally agreeing to testify at a hearing. In addition to
showman running for governor calling for Underleay's resignation, Tom Tiffany
Republican candidate for governor is calling on Tony Evers to
demand Underleay's resignation. Nobody can force her to resign because
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she's an elected official. She doesn't have a boss. She
is the boss. She can't be recalled from office until
April of next year. You can't recall someone until one
year after their last election, and she was re elected
in April. The only thing that can happen is that
people can raise their voices and demand that she leave,
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and then I think demand that whoever her successor is,
it would be filled by appointment clean house. At the
top of DPI, I mentioned the story from the Cap Times.
Cap Times used to be a newspaper. It's now an
insert and a website, very leftist news organization from Madison.
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They did a major investigation. They spent spent a year
on this and released it a week and a half ago.
The headline was two hundred teacher sexual misconduct grooming cases
shielded from public. The story that was reported by Danielle Decloue.
I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. They went through records
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that had been shielded from the public, and they found
a staggering number of cases of teachers that were investigated
by the Department of Public Instruction for various instances of
alleged misconduct. We all know about the cases that result
in criminal charges, where there's sexual activity that occurs and
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so on, but it's all the ones in between that
are kind of the here where complaints were brought to
attention of the state. DPI is in charge of licensing
teachers in Wisconsin. You can't teach in Wisconsin of the license,
and DPI, according to this report, almost never revoked licenses,
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and even when it did, it did not disclose to
the public the reason the license was revoked. This is
unique to all the other entities that are licensed in Wisconsin.
For example, if you have your plumbing license revoked, it
states in the record this is the reason they revoked
the plumbing license. Shoddy work or they did they ripped
off some of whatever it is. The story also indicates
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that there were numerous instances the DPI allowed the local
school district to simply accept the resignation of the teacher,
but then because the teacher's license was not revoked, the
teacher went and got hired at another district that had
no knowledge of what went on. Again, the echoes of
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the scandal that occurred in the Catholic Church are just there.
This brings us to the question of why is DPI
soft on this behavior. Well, I have my theory. The
Department of Public Instruction leader, and you can go back
decades on this is always somebody that the Teachers' Union wants.
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The Department of Public Instruction election, which is held in
the spring four year terms generally as low profile. There's
only one special interest group that cares a lot who wins,
and that's the teachers' unions. So they bank roll a
candidate that's always a leftist. So the candidate that gets
in realizes, I'm the head of DPI because I had
the backing of the teachers Union, and as a result
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of that, DPI simply does not regulate at all rappy teachers,
never mind sex abuse, in grooming, et cetera. I mean,
any type of crappy teacher. There's no standards for them whatsoever.
It's almost impossible to lose your teaching license in Wisconsin.
So the nanity that's supposed to be regulating here didn't
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regulate because the Teachers' Union is set up to protect
the worst of the teachers. If you're a very very
good teacher, you don't need the union to protect you.
You're going to be in demand and so on. But
the bad ones require this. I'm on to quote the
camp Time story if your printed out is twenty printed
pages long, and obviously I can't read it here, but
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they've got some interesting points that I want to raise
it you. Long investigation with the cap Times found the
State Department of Public Instruction investigated more than two hundred
Wisconsin teachers, aids, substitutes, and administrators from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty three who were accused of sexual misconduct or
grooming behaviors towards students. Information previously unknown of the public.
Let me interject, the actual number of courses way higher.
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These are simply the cases that we know about. Think
about the number of cases in which a parent finds
out that their kids have been messed around with with
the teacher, and they just pulled the cat out of
the school. They don't say anything that they don't want
the kid to be in the cross, et cetera. Probably
way more but two hundred of these got DPI and
they covered up. Continued the Department's internal records show these
allegations included educators sexually assaulting students, soliciting nude photos and children,
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or initiating sexual relationships immediately after students graduated. Licensing officials
also investigated educators accus accused of grooming behaviors like flirting
with children, spending non school time alone and isolated with students,
or invading students' personal space by rubbing their shoulders, thighs,
and luwerbacks. Child sexual abuse prevention advocates and researchers say
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these behaviors have lasting psychological impact effects on children, making
it harder for them to succeed in school in a
healthy relationships. The Captimes interviewed seven top seven academics and
advocates about how the DPI invent instigates and documents educator misconduct.
Each said the department's practices are inadequately protecting students. They
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quote one paragraph here. Best estimates show one in ten
students experienced sexual misconduct from educators during their K twelve
student schooling, according to a federal report. No, again, that
seems high to me, but it's based on a federal report.
One in ten. Now, maybe that's a broad example of
a teacher. Did you know coach pats a kid on
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the butt or something. They're including everything in there, but
let's image, it's one in one hundred In Wisconsin, that
rate would amount to more than ninety three thousand school children.
The cap Times found at least forty four percent of
the Department of Public Instructions over four hundred and fifty
educator license investigations since twenty eighteen have involved a sexual
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misconduct or grooming allegation. Think of that forty four percent
of the cases that they investigated on teacher misconduct involves
something pertaining to sexual misconduct. A number of researchers and
advocates sy is likely an undercount in these cases. The
Captimes investigation also found the Department of Public Instruction is
dedicating scant resources to investigate educator misconduct, raising questions about
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the quality of its oversight of protection of children. Now again,
i'll interjec. This is because DPI doesn't want to do
oversight of teachers, because Jill Underley is a hack who's
in the bag to the Teachers' union. Without them, she
doesn't have a job. So the thing that they're most
required to do oversea teachers, they don't do it all. Second,
the department, run by state superintend at Jill Underlay, relies
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on rudimentary system to track its investigations, obscuring the scale
of misconduct for policymakers in the public. Licensing officials also
allow it. This is the key to me educators under
investigation to forfeit their credentials in exchange for avoiding in
depth probes. In other words, okay, quit and we won't
ask anything else about it continuing. Unlike a different agency
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that were great relates hundreds of other state licensed professionals
like nurses and accountants, The DPI doesn't tell the public
why an educator lost their license. Out of four hundred
and sixty one teachers the state investigated from twenty eighteen
to twenty three for all forms of misconduct, two hundred
and seven kept their credentials and continue working in schools
with children. Where are we going with this? We have
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an election for governor. As I said, the Republicans have
weighed in. Showman is pounding the table, demanding Underly resign.
Tiffany is almost there. He's you can say, this is
a matter of semantics. He's demanding that. Ever's the governor
demanding that Underlay resign because I guess Evers is the
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only guy who's got the position to do so. Where
are the Democrats? Sarah rod Regaez. Do you think Jill
Underlay should resign? Or are you perfectly fine with an
agency that is allowing massive sexual conduct to occur by teachers?
David Crowley, Mendela Barnes, who wants to run for governor,
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what do you think about this? This thing is going
to be very problematic for all of these Democratic candidates
because everyone knows the teachers' union is a major, powerful
special interest in democratic politics in Wisconsin. So I'll put
the question to them, what about the teachers' union and
what about the teachers themselves? Do all the rest of
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you teachers who aren't perverts want pervert colleagues? If not,
then you should demand that Underlay go. There won't be
an election. Her term isn't up for another three years.
I don't even know what happens in a vacancy of DPI,
but I think that somebody the governor just appoints and
interim until the next election. So it's going to be
another Lefty I wrote a newspaper column. Now I don't
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know over twenty five years ago. The people who oversaw
my column along gone. It was in the early stages
of the priest abuse scandal. I wrote a column for
the Walkashaw Framement in which I made a comment about
the seriousness of the This is when the sexual abuse
scandal was just beginning to go public, and the editors
didn't want to publish the column. They thought it was
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an attack on religion, and it was anything but that.
I was trying to aid the church in getting people
out of the priesthood who needed to be gotten out.
You see the same thing here, and the Captime story
itself has not really been picked up on picked up
on by many other news organizations, and I haven't seen
a lot of them demand the Jill Underlay resign her position.
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This is the worst type of dereliction of the public trust.
Let's turn our attention to another story today. Is I
was going to have a headlined in today's story by
the first story that I just did on the teacher problem,
it would have confused it. So it'll be from this
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point forward it's this is the Mark Bellang Soft on
Crime podcast. I'm the one going to be soft on
the crime. I'm going to cite a couple of cases
in which I think people were wrongly charged. The first
this case went to a jury in Milwaukee County this
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week and had to do with a Milwaukee firefighter he
had to resign and his brother. They were accused of
assaulting a man in an incident that occurred in twenty
twenty four. Fortunately, the jury found the two not guilty,
and I agree with that. Normally, when somebody's accused of
assault in Milwaukee in a jury, let's him off. I
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rolled my eyes. Oh soft juries again not here. Let
me quote from the details on js online. These are brothers.
The last the last names is hyphenate, as you're just following.
Ty Dright Jackson, thirty eight year old former firefighter, and
his brother, Tremmel Dright were found not guilty of all charges.
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The jury deliberated about three hours. Prosecutors charged each brother
with first degree reckless battery with substantial battery, first degree
reckless injury with substantial battery. According to the defense attorney,
the brothers were stoutled awake in the middle of the
Ninetecember fourth of twenty twenty four, eleven months ago, after
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an intruder broke into Dright's home on the city's near
west side. The intruder, Jalen Nutt, ended the home while everyone,
including Dright's two children, were asleep. Inside the home, Nutt,
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that's the guy that broke in, was discovered trying to
enter the master bedroom. The brothers chased the intruder out
of the house into a nearby alley, where a fight
broke out. Video footage obtained by police showed the brothers punching, stomping,
and kicking Not repeatedly. Court records say Not was later
hospitalized and suffered a broken nose, cracked teeth, and facial
injuries that required stitches. So here's the thing. Guy busts
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into their house. Two big guys chase him out of
the house, and then once he's out of the house,
beat the crap out of him. So I'm sure the
prosecutors are saying this was not self defense because they
got him out of the house and once they got
up of it, there's no need for the beatdown. I
say to that, this guy broke into a house. There's
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little kids in the house. These brothers, in my mind,
are perfectly justified and beating the crap out of the guy.
No Wisconsin doesn't have a stand your ground law, as
the state of Florida does. Some think floors stand your
ground law goes too far in you know, if you
hear somebody scratching around of the house, it gives you
the right to throw fifteen grenades at them and so on.
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I think given the circumstances here, the threat that was provoked,
that provoked this is legitimate provocation. And I think the
guy got what he had coming. I now believe that
the Milwaukee fire chiefs, very good fire chief should offer
the one brother it was in his house, he was
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in his brother's home. He should offer him his job back.
And I applaud the jury for not convicting these two guys.
Somebody breaks into your house when your daughters are little
in all of that, First of all, I don't think
you could beat anybody up. But if you then beat
the guy up and you chased him out of the house,
do I think you do anything No. I think good
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Paul said he's got all baseball bat by his bed,
So I agree with letting the guy off. Now a
story in which I want to make it clear this
is not part of that trend of soft end crime.
This is a story in which very serious criminal behavior
is alleged. This is a crash that occurred last week
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Thursday night, November second. The man now charged in Wakshaw's
County Circuit Court is Casey yayanakapla Yian tough one Yayanaicoppolis
casey Yanacoppolis, forty seven. According to the authorities, he crashed
his car into a ditch and then ran off and
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hid inside the car. Killed was his passenger, his seventy
seven year old mother. When police got to his house
and they were looking for him, they found him hiding
inside a crawl space inside the house. Somebody else's in
the house helped out and pointed out where he was.
He refused to cooperate with the investigation, including any kind
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of drug test, but they did get a coote order
for a blood draw. The story on Fox six's site
says that the results they send those to the crime lab.
I think the crime lab where they send them to.
The results are not in, but they said that he
showed numerous signs of impairment and so on. So who
you have a guy probably intoxicated, drives a car into
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a ditch, kills his mother. If it comes back as intoxication.
First of all, he doesn't stay at the scene of
a crash in which his mother, for Heaven's sakes, is dead.
If it chosen signs of intoxication, I think clearly serious
charges have to come into place. I do, however, have
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some advice for old yayannakau Ya. I shouldn't even have
to say his last name. Shouldn't be that hardy yanakopolists.
Cross your fingers and hope that your case lands in
the courtroom of Walkershaw County Circuit Judge Scott Wagner, the
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guy who, as we reported earlier in the week, gave
only four months to another miscago man, this one who
was driving the wrong way on Moreland Roads super Bowl night,
blasted out of his mind and crashed into a squad
car injuring and a Burlet officer. By the way, I
have contacted the assistant district attorney in Waukershaw County who
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handled the case, trying to find out what his sentencing
recommendation in that case was, to see whether or not
the judge simply followed a dopey recommendation from a dumbbell
assistant district attorney, or if the judge had a strong
recommendation for prison and overruled it just because he's a dumbass.
And I have not gotten cooperation or an answer at
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this point from the Wakashaw County District Attorney's office. I
did post on X, by the way, earlier in the
week a side by side comparison of the two cases,
in which we talked about a Milwaukee County case in
which the circumstances were almost identical. Another wrong way crash,
this one in Milwaukee County, and it was on I
seven ninety four in which person was injured. That guy
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in Milwaukee got three years. I never read comments on
my thing on X, just like I don't read emails
about this. I just don't read them anyway. I did
have some people draw attention though, to me that people say, well,
that's probably because the Milwaukee guy is black. Actually, both
guys are white. The Walker show cases white. The Milwaukee
case was white, so it's not a racial thing where
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they got tougher on the black eye. Secondly, people said, well,
what do I bet the one guy's got the stronger
criminal record. Actually, the waker Shaw County guy is a
second time Owy offender, the Milwaukee guy first time offender
for that, So none of that is implat all. Right,
now back to the soft on crime. There's this story
going on in Greenfield. It's been reported by Fox six
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in I've heard rumblings on both sides on it. I
don't know what the deal is on police Chief Jay Johnson,
Greenfield's police chief has been suspended with pay for months.
They never said why, other than the allegations of missus.
Apparently he was given the opportunity to resign and he refused.
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We now know what the allegation is. He had Greenfield
and by the way, we should mention our radio station
is located in Greenfield, not that that's either here nor there. Anyway,
the police chief had a security camera installed on the
street facing his personal residence and it was installed by Greenfield.
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They alleged that that's misconduct, and he's now facing criminal
charges for doing that. The city attorney advised against it.
The story on Fox six indicates that before he became
the chief, there were several personnel investigations on him, and
so what well, if he had all these problems as
a supervisor, why the Fire and Police commission make him
police chief? The fact matter is he's the police chief,
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and anything prior to this I think shouldn't come into play,
because they did decide we want to read the chech.
The question now is okay, he tells his people to
put up a security camera facing his house. By the way,
he does not live in Greenfield most of our sub
in fact, hardly anybody has a residency rule anymore. So
he doesn't live in the city of Greenfield. He lives
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outside in another municipality. But it was Greenfield to put
up the security camera. No he didn't. Why'd you say,
Let's say, said Greenfield put the camera in? Yeah, And
if I didn't make that clear when I say Greenfield
put the camera and Greenfield paid for the camera, it
wasn't yet. And here's my thought on this. Should a
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police chief have a security camera in his home? Does
he have a reason to feel threatened, et cetera. Who
knows they advised him not to do it. These cameras
aren't that expensive. I don't believe he could have put
in his own camera. However, I don't think that's a crime.
I think it's a reason to fire somebody if you
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think think it's that serious, or tell him we're going
to fire you if you don't take it down. Instead,
they got into this big to do and he refused
to resign from office over it. Because he refused to
resign from office, they're turning this into criminal behavior. With
all the threats that are going on to public officials
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and so on. Have a police chief putting up a
camera on his own house, may or may not be
reasonable or not, and maybe he should have paid for
it or not. But I don't think it's criminal behavior.
I don't think this is something that rises to the
level of a felony. For heaven's sakes, I think there's
obviously now a toxic relationship within the police department in
Greenfield where people in the fire Police Commission are maybe
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the city or the mayor's office have it in for
the chief, and the chief thinks that they're trumping up
charges against him. My guess is that he is not
the only police chief in the state of Wisconsin who
has got in his community to put up a security
camera at his home. And again, whether it's good public
policy or not, I just don't think it's a crime. Furthermore,
it wasn't like he's around doing it. He put in
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the it was put into the voucher. It was a
city record that it was paid for. It wasn't like
an attempt to embezzle and put in the funds to
do so. It was right there, done by city cruise
and so on. Paul said, it's like him taking a
WISN microphone and using it for some remote with his
band or something or another. Yes, I think they could
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should yell at you for that, and if you don't
give the microphobic mc fer, I don't think you should
face to many charges for it. I just think it's
making a big Yeah. That's what's going on here is
that everybody hates each other here, so they're using this
as leverage and try to get him to resign. And
I don't think criminal justice SISIM should be used for that.
And I think this attorney's officer back off of this
and let the lawyers work the damn thing out next.
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I am a complete opponent of declaring everything his historic
area or historic preservation status to stop somebody from doing
something to it, but I approve of it here. The
Convention Center Board, the Wisconsin Center District wants to tear
down the useless Miller Highlife Theater that's the old Milwaukee
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Auditorium and the very useful UWM Panther Arena formerly the
Milwaukee Arena. The City of Milwaukee's Historic Preservation District is
moving toward giving them historic status, which should make it
hard to tear them down. As I've said, the Auditorium
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should never have been renovated. It's hardly ever used for anything.
The Miller I left arena, tear it down. The problem is,
in order to put a hotel there, which is what
the Convention Center District wants, you have to tear down
both buildings. And the arena is used for lots of
things and it is a vital part of the community.
If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Admirals.
If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Wave.
Because I don't think you can have a professional soccer
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team playing in a I don't even know where you
would find a place big enough for indoor soccer and
all the other events that go on there. UWM basketball
would have to go back to the Klatchy Center. That
arena's used about one hundred nights a year. Furthermore, the
people who use the arena almost entirely are people here
in southeast inn Wisconsin, whereas a hotel is used by
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people by definition who aren't from here. Furthermore, I don't
think that there's a market for another one of these hotels.
They've got an empty lot across the street from the
convention center that they've been trying to develop into a
hotel for I'm telling you the truth here thirty years
and they haven't at a developer. So if the only
way we can save the arena is to get the
historic preservation status, even if it means the completely useless
Smugler High Life theater is saved in the process. Did
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you follow all of that? Even if you didn't, so
what this is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the
Mark Belling Podcast. Let's talk about the election results. Some
are important, others are not. The governorships of New Jersey
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and Virginia. The Democrats won both of them. People are
making a big deal out of this. I think that
this is kind of a zero the these are democratic states.
Trump did not win Virginia and he did not win
New Jersey. So it stands the reason that these states,
both of which, by the way, New Jersey has a
democratic governor Virginia admittedly does not, so that is a flip. However,
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the Virginia sick situation is rather unique. Glen Youngkin, the
governor of Virginia, is just Republican, very popular. His popularity
transcends party lines. He was term limited out. He's probably
going to be the only Republican governor of Virginia thirty
years on either side of it. So, I don't think
the fact that two democratic states chose democratic governors is significant.
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Here's what is Mamdani As I told you he would
was elected mayor of New York. Mamdanni is a communist.
There is no point in not using the term. His
ideology as identical to the ideology of both American and
non American communists. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Whatever.
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We need to understand that this is now the reality
of the Democratic Party in much of Democratic America. Now,
the disconnect in these stories is in New Jersey and Virginia,
the Democrats running were not running on communist principles. They
were running old style Democrats. But in New York Mamdani
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didn't do anything to hide it. There should be no billionaires.
I guess that means he in the case of somebody
like Musk, he just confiscates nine hundred billion dollars or
whatever it is and just pocket I don't know, New
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York is going to go to hell. Everything ever run
by communists has gone to hell, and I should put
in my asterisk. The Chinese version of communism is not communism.
Communism is an economic system. China practices their version of
state controlled capitalism. They simply still call themselves the Communist Party.
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I'm referring to the communism of everywhere else, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, Venezuela,
et cetera. The fact that Mamdani had the support of
most officials in New York and was endorsed by many
Democrats in America. Rebecca Cook, Congress Congress congressional candidate in
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western Wisconsin. She's the Republican who likely will win the
primary to run against Derek Van Ordon. She endorsed Mamdani.
This is who the Democrats now are. The Schumers and
Durbans and Baldwin's and the rest of them have ruled
over and ceded the party to the aocs and the
Mamdanis and the other communists. The great threat to America
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isn't the Democrats win elections. It's that the Democrats have
become communists and if as a communist nation, we will
die as all other communist nations have. And again I
do not consider China to be traditionally a communist type nation.
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One of the challenges for Republicans will be to connect
other Democrats to this ideology, because when they run in
a swing state, you know, communism isn't going to sell
in Wisconsin. It's going to sell with about thirty five
to forty percent of the voters in about eighty five
percent of the Democrats, but the swing voters in between
aren't so candidate for the runs of Wisconsin. As a memory,
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I'm just I'm not Mandani. I'm not a communist. That
may work in governor elections. But now at the national level,
as you see via the government shutdown, it's AOC and
the radicals calling all of the shots. New York City
going to hell will be terrible for this country because
it's the most important city in our nation, but the
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fact that it will go to hell will be instructive.
One of the things, though, that I think many on
the right don't understand, is a lot of physic. We'll
let them do it and then people will see. Except
they've done it in San Francisco, they've done it in Seattle,
they've done it in Portland, they've done it in Chicago,
and people don't see. They think that somehow they're dopey.
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Local democrat isn't the same thing. It doesn't seem to
matter how many times radicalism fails. It doesn't sync in
to people that it's going to fail again. There's a
reason it fails, and we don't have time on today's
podcast to go into all of the reasons. Why. Read
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distribution of wealth, confiscating wealth, taking away the profit motive,
don't putting anybody in jail, letting tens of thousands live
on the street, all the stuff Mandani is in favor
of rent control. Does it work? Other than to say,
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I can easily prove that it doesn't work, look at
all the times it'sn't tried. It's never worked. Another election,
California passed this referendum to redistrict the state. It means
that five congressional districts think what California is outside of
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the big population centers. There's a big chunk of Republican
territory in California. But because California's got so many people
fifty million, they don't win statewide elections. But pretty much
everything not on the coast in California is conservative. Bakersfield,
for example, rather conservative area. That's whe Kevin McCarthy, former
House speaker, that's what he represented, the areas toward Palm Springs,
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a little bit, some of the areas outside of San Diego.
And then you get into the what's the name of
the Wine country, san Joaquin Valley, that area outside the
city of Fresno, outside of Sacramento. Those cities are but
outside very republican. And and then the whole northern part
of California above San Francisco republican. So there are a
number of Republican congressional districts in the state. They voted
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to withdraw the districts so that all of them get
enough Democrats popped in that the Democrats gained five House seats.
All right, they've done it, and the voters voted to
do it. And I suppose the voters are a republican
state can vote screw up art. For example, there are
any number of states that are overwhelmingly Republican that have
two or three Democratic seats, largely because there's a big
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For instance, Tennessee. I don't know if there's a Democratic
Congress from Tennessee, but the city of Nashville is very democratic. Louisiana,
the city of New Orleans very very democratic. Kentucky extremely Republican,
but the city of Lexington and Louisville are very democratic.
Republicans can redraw the distincts in every one of those
states to chop up You could, for example, here in Wisconsin,
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chop up the gwn Moore district in Milwaukee, flip it
to a couple of suburban disease. You can do this everywhere.
You notice that this all started when the Democrats lost
their cookies over Texas redrawing their lines to favor Republicans.
If the Democrats are going to do it with five
in California, every Republican state that has a state legislature
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there should do the same damn thing. The alternative is
to lose. The media wants to portray the Democrats as
having the high ground here, but they've been spending forever
complaining about jurymandering and states like Wisconsin, So not the California,
but a NUSOMP was the guy that pushed this. Let's
jurymanner the States, so we get all the seats that
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we can because we have to do it to stop Trump.
I want to pull out and jury pick out some
of the arguments made from the United States attorney and
the rebuttal to Komy's argument for dismissal. A lot of
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words there. James Comey, former fa director, his attorney's a
filed emotion to dismissed the criminal charges against him. The government,
the US Department of Justice, is rebutting that and made
a number of points, and they produced several exhibits. I
want to go through a handful of them because they
demonstrate the strength of the government case and the overwhelming
evidence that Komi was corrupt while FBI director. Quoting Exhibit
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thirteen includes damning evidence of then FBI Director Komy's handwritten
note on FBI director letterhead. I love this. You can't
get it much better than that. It's in his writing,
and it's on an FBI letterhead, evidencing of Komi's knowledge
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of and even participation in the Russia collusion criminal conspiracy
against Trump. So he wrote stuff down. This is during
the Russia collusion thing that he was sending to associates
in the bureau. Exhibit five gets worse komy from his
burner Gmail and a burner Gmail is you create a
fake account that you can then delete the emails after
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you send them. The problem, of course, is is that
when something's out there in Cyber's face, it's hard to
ever come down. His name was Reinhold at Nieber. Reinhold
Nieber was actually James Colby. Just shows you what a
dink Coleby is, what a stupid name to uses. Your
fake name better be like if you use this first
of all, all fake names, sounds stupid. You can't come
up with a fake name that doesn't sound stupid. Reinhold Neiber,
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I mean me, it just sounds like he's some sort
of dignified pampas ass royalty or something or another. Anyway,
as Reinold Nieber, he sends out this email stating quote
to me, no need at this point it would be
shouting into the wind. Someday they will figure it out,
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and as Jack and Ben point out, my decision will
be one a president elect Clinton will be very grateful
for This is referring to starting the Russia colluson investigation,
and he said, at some point, everybody's gonna find out
there's no Russia collusion, but I'm gonna be a hero
and Hillary's gonna appreciate it. This is again during the
campaign he assumed that Hillary was going to win. It's
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when he green lit the Russia collusion investigation during the
twenty sixteen campaign. He's got a note saying, yeah, I
look at it. I'll find out that he did it.
But Hillary is gonna be the president. She's gonna be happy,
and everybody's gonna be glad that I did it. Came
on next in Exhibit seven, in response to planning a
New York Times the election eve hit piece against Trump,
then FBI Director James Comy tells FBI Special government employee
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Daniel Richmond, quote, well done, my friend, who knew this
would be oh so a fun. Comy denied in congressional
testimony that he ever knew that anybody leaked to The
New York Times. We now have documentation in which he
praises a guy for leaking to The New York Times.
Dead to rights, they got him perjury. Exhibit ten shows
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FBI Special government employed Daniel Richmond by the way, his
fake name on the emails is Michael Garcia. That's at
least a regular old fake name, right. Wonder what kind
of fake you see? You're not creative, what would your
fake name be. You'd be so stupid you use like
your first name, Paul Kramer. It's like, but I have
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a radio name in Oshkosh. I called myself Mark Belson.
But that's because we didn't like having to have the name,
so we all took names that were almost the same
name that we had. Anyway, total aside, here is leaking
as an anonymous source to The New York Times reporter
Michael schmid On, behalf of then FBI Director James Comey.
Comy testified to the US Senate Judiciary Committee that he
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never did this. All right, I am now going to
embark on a feudal attempt to avoid public confusion on something.
There are just some things in which you know, people
are going to be mixed up and it's going to
be impossible. Will to knock the story down. Here's the story,
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and then I'm going to try to clarify the story.
Hughsar's House of Fine Diamonds is closing. It's in West
bed I'm just telling you it doesn't matter how many
times you mentioned, people are gonna think that Craig Hussar's
Fine Diamonds is closing. They're separate companies. They're just some
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businesses in which everybody with that name seems to go
into the business. A moving company in Milwaukee with those
like two companies that have the same family last name,
but they're totally separate companies. They're different. There's a relationship,
but different families started the business. Craig Hussar's Fine Diamonds
is in Brookfield. It was started by his parents. This
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one Hussar's House of Fine Diamonds in West Bend, it
was Michael Husaer and Mary Hussar and now the owners there.
It was started by Michael Huser's a different father, so
they both family businesses that have been forever. But it's
the West Bend Hughes Sire's, which is not connected to
the Brookfield Craig Hughsar that is closing. I'm just telling you,
Craig Usar is going to go through hell for the
next three years of people thinking that he's closed. They're
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going out of business because people just think it's the
same business. And they probably confuse the two forever. One's
in Brookfield, the other ones in West bed I think
I've accomplished nothing with this. I think we just going
to be confused. Oh I heard Craig Ughsa is going
out of business. He's not. It's the other Husar's the
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West Bend one. It's going out of business. This is
the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast.
I want to spend a moment discussing Dick Cheney. It's
very hard to summarize his life and legacy. If you're
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not aware Cheney died at the age of eighty four.
The answer is, in my view, it's very mixed. People
have jumped all over Donald Trump. Why has any said it?
I know as of the timing of this podcast, he
hasn't said anything. Dick Chenney tried to destroy Donald Trump.
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Trump's not gonna say anything good about Channey now that
he's dead. And I understand that when someone dies that
I think is despicable, I don't go dancing on his grave,
especially if it's I mean, it's an international tyrant, you know,
Saddam Hussein, that's different. But if there's somebody that I
didn't like locally and they die. Just keep my mouth shut.
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The fact of the matter is is that Dick Cheney
was probably the strongest vice president in American history. He
ran foreign policy, directed the war in Iraq. And that's
not a knock on w. Bush. It's smart that a
president uses his vice president and his skills. And Chaney
showed stern backbone. He was revisedilled by the left. He
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was hated as much in his day as Charlie Kirk
was hated in his Yet he stood his ground and
on many things, including the terror threat, he was right.
I think he was proven wrong about Iraq. Trump made
that case, and I think that the case that American
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intervention in Iraq didn't accomplish anything is now in retrospect correct.
But it was my position, was Dick Cheney's position at
the time. The great flaw in the Cheney Bush doctrine
was the belief that you could turn any Muslim country
into a democracy. Then I wired that way, so all
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you ended up with was Iraq under different control and
created a tremendous upheaval in the Middle East, which eventually
strengthened Iran. So Trump starts running and Trump, you know,
had this attitude forever, including when he started running for president.
He was crapping over all these wars started by the
Bush wing of the Republican Party. Cheney hated that, and
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because he hated it and he had thin skin, he
turned on Trump. And I think this is the whole
roots of Liz Cheney hating him and the whole thing.
He can't stand the fact that Donald Trump was out
there giving his version of history that Bush and Cheney
were bad for America. And as a result, Dick Cheney
destroyed his legacy. He endorsed Kamala Harris for president. Kamala
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Harris being elected president would have destroyed our nation, the
very nation that Dick Cheney spent most of his career defending.
Cheney became a demagogue in hyping January sixth. So his
legacy is mixed in many respects. He was heroic, but
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he screwed up the last ten years of his life.
But back at the time, remember Bush and Cheney were
running after eight years of Clinton in which America's credibility
on the international stage was compromised. You know, we were
selling secrets to China. We were doing all those inside
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deals with Charlie Tree and John Wong. The American military
was weakened, and Bush and Cheney responded to that, and
they also, aside from the war in Iraq, they responded
to the terror threat by defending our country. The war
in Afghanistan went on too long, but the initial go
knockout al Qaeda I think was justified. I think we
should have knocked out Olkeddy and then not worried about Afghanistan.
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So there were certainly things that our praiseworthy and defensible
that Dick Cheney was involved in. But he's left a
sour taste in many of our mouths over the fact
that he allowed this attack on some of the positions
that he took to sell out our nation and support
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people who wanted to destroy our country or were clearly
too incompetent to run our nation. I e. Kamala Harris
as for president, not saying something I don't find some
dignitary to show up and see seven terms of going
to the funeral, little the Cheneys to want them there.
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So silence in this case is probably appropriate. By the way,
I don't think silence in my case is hardly ever appropriate.
If I was silent, I would have no career. If
I had to do a job in which I didn't
shoot off my big mouth. What would that be? There
doesn't seem to be much that would be out there
for me for those of you wondering. Our very good horse,
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Special Wands sold at auction Monday night at the Facing
Tipton Sale in Kentucky. She got she went for one
point three million dollars. Remember I'm a partner. I don't
get the entire one point three million dollars. It was
read in them my rain jib. What I thought was fair, inappropriate,
and what it worth is the owners, new owners or Japanese.
They may continue to raise their centers straight to the
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breeding shed, but turned out to be a great horse
for us and financial windfall as well. Another podcast coming
up on Thursday, The.
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Sometimes history repeats itself. There's a story in the news
in Wisconsin right now that, like the earlier story. As
I said, this is a story that's repeating itself. There's
a lot of similarities in the way people have wanted
to look the other way and pretend that they're not
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seeing what they're seeing. The same thing happened several decades ago.
When you got reports they were scattered one here, one
way over there of Roman Catholic priests messing her with kids,
mostly boys, and there were just a lot of people
who wanted to look the other way. The former Milwaukee
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County District Attorney Mike McCann consulted with the Milwaukee Archdiocese
and he famously advised, take care of it, no need
to bring criminal charges, etc. This was going on all
over the country. Bishops and cardinals and the Catholic Church
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were well, let's work with the person. The person could repent.
We believe in repentance and forgiveness. The person's had problems,
the family doesn't want anything to go public, and even
though these reports were coming in, there were a whole
lot of people who looked the other way and simply
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didn't want to acknowledge that it was going on. And
we see what the result of that was. We lost
twenty to twenty five years in addressing the problem, and
the Catholic Church ended up with a massive hit to
its credibility. Then everything blew up and the situation has
been largely resolved. You hear about these types of cases
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almost never anymore, but in the process, the church had
its reputation damaged, the story repeating itself. It is just
clear to me, with all of these cases that we
have and now the report that came out of the
cap Times of Madison, that we have a crisis in
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Wisconsin of way more perverted teachers than we imagined in
the same fashion that we go back forty to fifty
years that was going on in the Catholic Church. Every
indication that this is being covered up, with the chief
cover upper being Jill Underly, the head of the Wisconsin
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Department of Public Instruction, We're going to attempt to lift
the veil on this storm and talk about its political
implications as we move forward here on today's podcast. Have
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Republican candidate for governor Washington County Executive, held a video
conference today, once again drawing attention to his call for
Jill Underlead to resign as head of the Department of
Public Instruction. Underley, who skipped out on a legislative hearing
attempting to get some answers as to why DPI has
been caught covering up one hundreds of cases of inappropriate
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behavior and grooming by teachers in public schools, is now
finally agreeing to testify at a hearing. In addition to
showman running for governor calling for Underleay's resignation, Tom Tiffany
Republican candidate for governor is calling on Tony Evers to
demand Underleay's resignation. Nobody can force her to resign because
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she's an elected official. She doesn't have a boss. She
is the boss. She can't be recalled from office until
April of next year. You can't recall someone until one
year after their last election, and she was re elected
in April. The only thing that can happen is that
people can raise their voices and demand that she leave,
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and then I think demand that whoever her successor is,
it would be filled by appointment clean house. At the
top of DPI, I mentioned the story from the Cap Times.
Cap Times used to be a newspaper. It's now an
insert and a website, very leftist news organization from Madison.
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They did a major investigation. They spent spent a year
on this and released it a week and a half ago.
The headline was two hundred teacher sexual misconduct grooming cases
shielded from public. The story that was reported by Danielle Decloue.
I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. They went through records
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that had been shielded from the public, and they found
a staggering number of cases of teachers that were investigated
by the Department of Public Instruction for various instances of
alleged misconduct. We all know about the cases that result
in criminal charges, where there's sexual activity that occurs and
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so on, but it's all the ones in between that
are kind of the here where complaints were brought to
attention of the state. DPI is in charge of licensing
teachers in Wisconsin. You can't teach in Wisconsin of the license,
and DPI, according to this report, almost never revoked licenses,
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and even when it did, it did not disclose to
the public the reason the license was revoked. This is
unique to all the other entities that are licensed in Wisconsin.
For example, if you have your plumbing license revoked, it
states in the record this is the reason they revoked
the plumbing license. Shoddy work or they did they ripped
off some of whatever it is. The story also indicates
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that there were numerous instances the DPI allowed the local
school district to simply accept the resignation of the teacher,
but then because the teacher's license was not revoked, the
teacher went and got hired at another district that had
no knowledge of what went on. Again, the echoes of
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the scandal that occurred in the Catholic Church are just there.
This brings us to the question of why is DPI
soft on this behavior. Well, I have my theory. The
Department of Public Instruction leader, and you can go back
decades on this is always somebody that the Teachers' Union wants.
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The Department of Public Instruction election, which is held in
the spring four year terms generally as low profile. There's
only one special interest group that cares a lot who wins,
and that's the teachers' unions. So they bank roll a
candidate that's always a leftist. So the candidate that gets
in realizes, I'm the head of DPI because I had
the backing of the teachers Union, and as a result
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of that, DPI simply does not regulate at all rappy teachers,
never mind sex abuse, in grooming, et cetera. I mean,
any type of crappy teacher. There's no standards for them whatsoever.
It's almost impossible to lose your teaching license in Wisconsin.
So the nanity that's supposed to be regulating here didn't
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regulate because the Teachers' Union is set up to protect
the worst of the teachers. If you're a very very
good teacher, you don't need the union to protect you.
You're going to be in demand and so on. But
the bad ones require this. I'm on to quote the
camp Time story if your printed out is twenty printed
pages long, and obviously I can't read it here, but
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they've got some interesting points that I want to raise
it you. Long investigation with the cap Times found the
State Department of Public Instruction investigated more than two hundred
Wisconsin teachers, aids, substitutes, and administrators from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty three who were accused of sexual misconduct or
grooming behaviors towards students. Information previously unknown of the public.
Let me interject, the actual number of courses way higher.
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These are simply the cases that we know about. Think
about the number of cases in which a parent finds
out that their kids have been messed around with with
the teacher, and they just pulled the cat out of
the school. They don't say anything that they don't want
the kid to be in the cross, et cetera. Probably
way more but two hundred of these got DPI and
they covered up. Continued the Department's internal records show these
allegations included educators sexually assaulting students, soliciting nude photos and children,
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or initiating sexual relationships immediately after students graduated. Licensing officials
also investigated educators accus accused of grooming behaviors like flirting
with children, spending non school time alone and isolated with students,
or invading students' personal space by rubbing their shoulders, thighs,
and luwerbacks. Child sexual abuse prevention advocates and researchers say
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these behaviors have lasting psychological impact effects on children, making
it harder for them to succeed in school in a
healthy relationships. The Captimes interviewed seven top seven academics and
advocates about how the DPI invent instigates and documents educator misconduct.
Each said the department's practices are inadequately protecting students. They
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quote one paragraph here. Best estimates show one in ten
students experienced sexual misconduct from educators during their K twelve
student schooling, according to a federal report. No, again, that
seems high to me, but it's based on a federal report.
One in ten. Now, maybe that's a broad example of
a teacher. Did you know coach pats a kid on
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the butt or something. They're including everything in there, but
let's image, it's one in one hundred In Wisconsin, that
rate would amount to more than ninety three thousand school children.
The cap Times found at least forty four percent of
the Department of Public Instructions over four hundred and fifty
educator license investigations since twenty eighteen have involved a sexual
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misconduct or grooming allegation. Think of that forty four percent
of the cases that they investigated on teacher misconduct involves
something pertaining to sexual misconduct. A number of researchers and
advocates sy is likely an undercount in these cases. The
Captimes investigation also found the Department of Public Instruction is
dedicating scant resources to investigate educator misconduct, raising questions about
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the quality of its oversight of protection of children. Now again,
i'll interjec. This is because DPI doesn't want to do
oversight of teachers, because Jill Underley is a hack who's
in the bag to the Teachers' union. Without them, she
doesn't have a job. So the thing that they're most
required to do oversea teachers, they don't do it all. Second,
the department, run by state superintend at Jill Underlay, relies
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on rudimentary system to track its investigations, obscuring the scale
of misconduct for policymakers in the public. Licensing officials also
allow it. This is the key to me educators under
investigation to forfeit their credentials in exchange for avoiding in
depth probes. In other words, okay, quit and we won't
ask anything else about it continuing. Unlike a different agency
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that were great relates hundreds of other state licensed professionals
like nurses and accountants, The DPI doesn't tell the public
why an educator lost their license. Out of four hundred
and sixty one teachers the state investigated from twenty eighteen
to twenty three for all forms of misconduct, two hundred
and seven kept their credentials and continue working in schools
with children. Where are we going with this? We have
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an election for governor. As I said, the Republicans have
weighed in. Showman is pounding the table, demanding Underly resign.
Tiffany is almost there. He's you can say, this is
a matter of semantics. He's demanding that. Ever's the governor
demanding that Underlay resign because I guess Evers is the
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only guy who's got the position to do so. Where
are the Democrats? Sarah rod Regaez. Do you think Jill
Underlay should resign? Or are you perfectly fine with an
agency that is allowing massive sexual conduct to occur by teachers?
David Crowley, Mendela Barnes, who wants to run for governor,
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what do you think about this? This thing is going
to be very problematic for all of these Democratic candidates
because everyone knows the teachers' union is a major, powerful
special interest in democratic politics in Wisconsin. So I'll put
the question to them, what about the teachers' union and
what about the teachers themselves? Do all the rest of
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you teachers who aren't perverts want pervert colleagues? If not,
then you should demand that Underlay go. There won't be
an election. Her term isn't up for another three years.
I don't even know what happens in a vacancy of DPI,
but I think that somebody the governor just appoints and
interim until the next election. So it's going to be
another Lefty I wrote a newspaper column. Now I don't
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know over twenty five years ago. The people who oversaw
my column along gone. It was in the early stages
of the priest abuse scandal. I wrote a column for
the Walkashaw Framement in which I made a comment about
the seriousness of the This is when the sexual abuse
scandal was just beginning to go public, and the editors
didn't want to publish the column. They thought it was
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an attack on religion, and it was anything but that.
I was trying to aid the church in getting people
out of the priesthood who needed to be gotten out.
You see the same thing here, and the Captime story
itself has not really been picked up on picked up
on by many other news organizations, and I haven't seen
a lot of them demand the Jill Underlay resign her position.
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This is the worst type of dereliction of the public trust.
Let's turn our attention to another story today. Is I
was going to have a headlined in today's story by
the first story that I just did on the teacher problem,
it would have confused it. So it'll be from this
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point forward it's this is the Mark Bellang Soft on
Crime podcast. I'm the one going to be soft on
the crime. I'm going to cite a couple of cases
in which I think people were wrongly charged. The first
this case went to a jury in Milwaukee County this
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week and had to do with a Milwaukee firefighter he
had to resign and his brother. They were accused of
assaulting a man in an incident that occurred in twenty
twenty four. Fortunately, the jury found the two not guilty,
and I agree with that. Normally, when somebody's accused of
assault in Milwaukee in a jury, let's him off. I
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rolled my eyes. Oh soft juries again not here. Let
me quote from the details on js online. These are brothers.
The last the last names is hyphenate, as you're just following.
Ty Dright Jackson, thirty eight year old former firefighter, and
his brother, Tremmel Dright were found not guilty of all charges.
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The jury deliberated about three hours. Prosecutors charged each brother
with first degree reckless battery with substantial battery, first degree
reckless injury with substantial battery. According to the defense attorney,
the brothers were stoutled awake in the middle of the
Ninetecember fourth of twenty twenty four, eleven months ago, after
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an intruder broke into Dright's home on the city's near
west side. The intruder, Jalen Nutt, ended the home while everyone,
including Dright's two children, were asleep. Inside the home, Nutt,
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that's the guy that broke in, was discovered trying to
enter the master bedroom. The brothers chased the intruder out
of the house into a nearby alley, where a fight
broke out. Video footage obtained by police showed the brothers punching, stomping,
and kicking Not repeatedly. Court records say Not was later
hospitalized and suffered a broken nose, cracked teeth, and facial
injuries that required stitches. So here's the thing. Guy busts
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into their house. Two big guys chase him out of
the house, and then once he's out of the house,
beat the crap out of him. So I'm sure the
prosecutors are saying this was not self defense because they
got him out of the house and once they got
up of it, there's no need for the beatdown. I
say to that, this guy broke into a house. There's
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little kids in the house. These brothers, in my mind,
are perfectly justified and beating the crap out of the guy.
No Wisconsin doesn't have a stand your ground law, as
the state of Florida does. Some think floors stand your
ground law goes too far in you know, if you
hear somebody scratching around of the house, it gives you
the right to throw fifteen grenades at them and so on.
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I think given the circumstances here, the threat that was provoked,
that provoked this is legitimate provocation. And I think the
guy got what he had coming. I now believe that
the Milwaukee fire chiefs, very good fire chief should offer
the one brother it was in his house, he was
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in his brother's home. He should offer him his job back.
And I applaud the jury for not convicting these two guys.
Somebody breaks into your house when your daughters are little
in all of that, First of all, I don't think
you could beat anybody up. But if you then beat
the guy up and you chased him out of the house,
do I think you do anything No. I think good
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Paul said he's got all baseball bat by his bed,
So I agree with letting the guy off. Now a
story in which I want to make it clear this
is not part of that trend of soft end crime.
This is a story in which very serious criminal behavior
is alleged. This is a crash that occurred last week
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Thursday night, November second. The man now charged in Wakshaw's
County Circuit Court is Casey yayanakapla Yian tough one Yayanaicoppolis
casey Yanacoppolis, forty seven. According to the authorities, he crashed
his car into a ditch and then ran off and
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hid inside the car. Killed was his passenger, his seventy
seven year old mother. When police got to his house
and they were looking for him, they found him hiding
inside a crawl space inside the house. Somebody else's in
the house helped out and pointed out where he was.
He refused to cooperate with the investigation, including any kind
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of drug test, but they did get a coote order
for a blood draw. The story on Fox six's site
says that the results they send those to the crime lab.
I think the crime lab where they send them to.
The results are not in, but they said that he
showed numerous signs of impairment and so on. So who
you have a guy probably intoxicated, drives a car into
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a ditch, kills his mother. If it comes back as intoxication.
First of all, he doesn't stay at the scene of
a crash in which his mother, for Heaven's sakes, is dead.
If it chosen signs of intoxication, I think clearly serious
charges have to come into place. I do, however, have
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some advice for old yayannakau Ya. I shouldn't even have
to say his last name. Shouldn't be that hardy yanakopolists.
Cross your fingers and hope that your case lands in
the courtroom of Walkershaw County Circuit Judge Scott Wagner, the
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guy who, as we reported earlier in the week, gave
only four months to another miscago man, this one who
was driving the wrong way on Moreland Roads super Bowl night,
blasted out of his mind and crashed into a squad
car injuring and a Burlet officer. By the way, I
have contacted the assistant district attorney in Waukershaw County who
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handled the case, trying to find out what his sentencing
recommendation in that case was, to see whether or not
the judge simply followed a dopey recommendation from a dumbbell
assistant district attorney, or if the judge had a strong
recommendation for prison and overruled it just because he's a dumbass.
And I have not gotten cooperation or an answer at
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this point from the Wakashaw County District Attorney's office. I
did post on X, by the way, earlier in the
week a side by side comparison of the two cases,
in which we talked about a Milwaukee County case in
which the circumstances were almost identical. Another wrong way crash,
this one in Milwaukee County, and it was on I
seven ninety four in which person was injured. That guy
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in Milwaukee got three years. I never read comments on
my thing on X, just like I don't read emails
about this. I just don't read them anyway. I did
have some people draw attention though, to me that people say, well,
that's probably because the Milwaukee guy is black. Actually, both
guys are white. The Walker show cases white. The Milwaukee
case was white, so it's not a racial thing where
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they got tougher on the black eye. Secondly, people said, well,
what do I bet the one guy's got the stronger
criminal record. Actually, the waker Shaw County guy is a
second time Owy offender, the Milwaukee guy first time offender
for that, So none of that is implat all. Right,
now back to the soft on crime. There's this story
going on in Greenfield. It's been reported by Fox six
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in I've heard rumblings on both sides on it. I
don't know what the deal is on police Chief Jay Johnson,
Greenfield's police chief has been suspended with pay for months.
They never said why, other than the allegations of missus.
Apparently he was given the opportunity to resign and he refused.
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We now know what the allegation is. He had Greenfield
and by the way, we should mention our radio station
is located in Greenfield, not that that's either here nor there. Anyway,
the police chief had a security camera installed on the
street facing his personal residence and it was installed by Greenfield.
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They alleged that that's misconduct, and he's now facing criminal
charges for doing that. The city attorney advised against it.
The story on Fox six indicates that before he became
the chief, there were several personnel investigations on him, and
so what well, if he had all these problems as
a supervisor, why the Fire and Police commission make him
police chief? The fact matter is he's the police chief,
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and anything prior to this I think shouldn't come into play,
because they did decide we want to read the chech.
The question now is okay, he tells his people to
put up a security camera facing his house. By the way,
he does not live in Greenfield most of our sub
in fact, hardly anybody has a residency rule anymore. So
he doesn't live in the city of Greenfield. He lives
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outside in another municipality. But it was Greenfield to put
up the security camera. No he didn't. Why'd you say,
Let's say, said Greenfield put the camera in? Yeah, And
if I didn't make that clear when I say Greenfield
put the camera and Greenfield paid for the camera, it
wasn't yet. And here's my thought on this. Should a
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police chief have a security camera in his home? Does
he have a reason to feel threatened, et cetera. Who
knows they advised him not to do it. These cameras
aren't that expensive. I don't believe he could have put
in his own camera. However, I don't think that's a crime.
I think it's a reason to fire somebody if you
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think think it's that serious, or tell him we're going
to fire you if you don't take it down. Instead,
they got into this big to do and he refused
to resign from office over it. Because he refused to
resign from office, they're turning this into criminal behavior. With
all the threats that are going on to public officials
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and so on. Have a police chief putting up a
camera on his own house, may or may not be
reasonable or not, and maybe he should have paid for
it or not. But I don't think it's criminal behavior.
I don't think this is something that rises to the
level of a felony. For heaven's sakes, I think there's
obviously now a toxic relationship within the police department in
Greenfield where people in the fire Police Commission are maybe
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the city or the mayor's office have it in for
the chief, and the chief thinks that they're trumping up
charges against him. My guess is that he is not
the only police chief in the state of Wisconsin who
has got in his community to put up a security
camera at his home. And again, whether it's good public
policy or not, I just don't think it's a crime. Furthermore,
it wasn't like he's around doing it. He put in
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the it was put into the voucher. It was a
city record that it was paid for. It wasn't like
an attempt to embezzle and put in the funds to
do so. It was right there, done by city cruise
and so on. Paul said, it's like him taking a
WISN microphone and using it for some remote with his
band or something or another. Yes, I think they could
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should yell at you for that, and if you don't
give the microphobic mc fer, I don't think you should
face to many charges for it. I just think it's
making a big Yeah. That's what's going on here is
that everybody hates each other here, so they're using this
as leverage and try to get him to resign. And
I don't think criminal justice SISIM should be used for that.
And I think this attorney's officer back off of this
and let the lawyers work the damn thing out next.
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I am a complete opponent of declaring everything his historic
area or historic preservation status to stop somebody from doing
something to it, but I approve of it here. The
Convention Center Board, the Wisconsin Center District wants to tear
down the useless Miller Highlife Theater that's the old Milwaukee
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Auditorium and the very useful UWM Panther Arena formerly the
Milwaukee Arena. The City of Milwaukee's Historic Preservation District is
moving toward giving them historic status, which should make it
hard to tear them down. As I've said, the Auditorium
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should never have been renovated. It's hardly ever used for anything.
The Miller I left arena, tear it down. The problem is,
in order to put a hotel there, which is what
the Convention Center District wants, you have to tear down
both buildings. And the arena is used for lots of
things and it is a vital part of the community.
If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Admirals.
If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Wave.
Because I don't think you can have a professional soccer
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team playing in a I don't even know where you
would find a place big enough for indoor soccer and
all the other events that go on there. UWM basketball
would have to go back to the Klatchy Center. That
arena's used about one hundred nights a year. Furthermore, the
people who use the arena almost entirely are people here
in southeast inn Wisconsin, whereas a hotel is used by
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people by definition who aren't from here. Furthermore, I don't
think that there's a market for another one of these hotels.
They've got an empty lot across the street from the
convention center that they've been trying to develop into a
hotel for I'm telling you the truth here thirty years
and they haven't at a developer. So if the only
way we can save the arena is to get the
historic preservation status, even if it means the completely useless
Smugler High Life theater is saved in the process. Did
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you follow all of that? Even if you didn't, so
what this is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the
Mark Belling Podcast. Let's talk about the election results. Some
are important, others are not. The governorships of New Jersey
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and Virginia. The Democrats won both of them. People are
making a big deal out of this. I think that
this is kind of a zero the these are democratic states.
Trump did not win Virginia and he did not win
New Jersey. So it stands the reason that these states,
both of which, by the way, New Jersey has a
democratic governor Virginia admittedly does not, so that is a flip. However,
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the Virginia sick situation is rather unique. Glen Youngkin, the
governor of Virginia, is just Republican, very popular. His popularity
transcends party lines. He was term limited out. He's probably
going to be the only Republican governor of Virginia thirty
years on either side of it. So, I don't think
the fact that two democratic states chose democratic governors is significant.
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Here's what is Mamdani As I told you he would
was elected mayor of New York. Mamdanni is a communist.
There is no point in not using the term. His
ideology as identical to the ideology of both American and
non American communists. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Whatever.
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We need to understand that this is now the reality
of the Democratic Party in much of Democratic America. Now,
the disconnect in these stories is in New Jersey and Virginia,
the Democrats running were not running on communist principles. They
were running old style Democrats. But in New York Mamdani
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didn't do anything to hide it. There should be no billionaires.
I guess that means he in the case of somebody
like Musk, he just confiscates nine hundred billion dollars or
whatever it is and just pocket I don't know, New
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York is going to go to hell. Everything ever run
by communists has gone to hell, and I should put
in my asterisk. The Chinese version of communism is not communism.
Communism is an economic system. China practices their version of
state controlled capitalism. They simply still call themselves the Communist Party.
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I'm referring to the communism of everywhere else, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, Venezuela,
et cetera. The fact that Mamdani had the support of
most officials in New York and was endorsed by many
Democrats in America. Rebecca Cook, Congress Congress congressional candidate in
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western Wisconsin. She's the Republican who likely will win the
primary to run against Derek Van Ordon. She endorsed Mamdani.
This is who the Democrats now are. The Schumers and
Durbans and Baldwin's and the rest of them have ruled
over and ceded the party to the aocs and the
Mamdanis and the other communists. The great threat to America
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isn't the Democrats win elections. It's that the Democrats have
become communists and if as a communist nation, we will
die as all other communist nations have. And again I
do not consider China to be traditionally a communist type nation.
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One of the challenges for Republicans will be to connect
other Democrats to this ideology, because when they run in
a swing state, you know, communism isn't going to sell
in Wisconsin. It's going to sell with about thirty five
to forty percent of the voters in about eighty five
percent of the Democrats, but the swing voters in between
aren't so candidate for the runs of Wisconsin. As a memory,
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I'm just I'm not Mandani. I'm not a communist. That
may work in governor elections. But now at the national level,
as you see via the government shutdown, it's AOC and
the radicals calling all of the shots. New York City
going to hell will be terrible for this country because
it's the most important city in our nation, but the
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fact that it will go to hell will be instructive.
One of the things, though, that I think many on
the right don't understand, is a lot of physic. We'll
let them do it and then people will see. Except
they've done it in San Francisco, they've done it in Seattle,
they've done it in Portland, they've done it in Chicago,
and people don't see. They think that somehow they're dopey.
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Local democrat isn't the same thing. It doesn't seem to
matter how many times radicalism fails. It doesn't sync in
to people that it's going to fail again. There's a
reason it fails, and we don't have time on today's
podcast to go into all of the reasons. Why. Read
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distribution of wealth, confiscating wealth, taking away the profit motive,
don't putting anybody in jail, letting tens of thousands live
on the street, all the stuff Mandani is in favor
of rent control. Does it work? Other than to say,
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I can easily prove that it doesn't work, look at
all the times it'sn't tried. It's never worked. Another election,
California passed this referendum to redistrict the state. It means
that five congressional districts think what California is outside of
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the big population centers. There's a big chunk of Republican
territory in California. But because California's got so many people
fifty million, they don't win statewide elections. But pretty much
everything not on the coast in California is conservative. Bakersfield,
for example, rather conservative area. That's whe Kevin McCarthy, former
House speaker, that's what he represented, the areas toward Palm Springs,
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a little bit, some of the areas outside of San Diego.
And then you get into the what's the name of
the Wine country, san Joaquin Valley, that area outside the
city of Fresno, outside of Sacramento. Those cities are but
outside very republican. And and then the whole northern part
of California above San Francisco republican. So there are a
number of Republican congressional districts in the state. They voted
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to withdraw the districts so that all of them get
enough Democrats popped in that the Democrats gained five House seats.
All right, they've done it, and the voters voted to
do it. And I suppose the voters are a republican
state can vote screw up art. For example, there are
any number of states that are overwhelmingly Republican that have
two or three Democratic seats, largely because there's a big
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For instance, Tennessee. I don't know if there's a Democratic
Congress from Tennessee, but the city of Nashville is very democratic. Louisiana,
the city of New Orleans very very democratic. Kentucky extremely Republican,
but the city of Lexington and Louisville are very democratic.
Republicans can redraw the distincts in every one of those
states to chop up You could, for example, here in Wisconsin,
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chop up the gwn Moore district in Milwaukee, flip it
to a couple of suburban disease. You can do this everywhere.
You notice that this all started when the Democrats lost
their cookies over Texas redrawing their lines to favor Republicans.
If the Democrats are going to do it with five
in California, every Republican state that has a state legislature
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there should do the same damn thing. The alternative is
to lose. The media wants to portray the Democrats as
having the high ground here, but they've been spending forever
complaining about jurymandering and states like Wisconsin, So not the California,
but a NUSOMP was the guy that pushed this. Let's
jurymanner the States, so we get all the seats that
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we can because we have to do it to stop Trump.
I want to pull out and jury pick out some
of the arguments made from the United States attorney and
the rebuttal to Komy's argument for dismissal. A lot of
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words there. James Comey, former fa director, his attorney's a
filed emotion to dismissed the criminal charges against him. The government,
the US Department of Justice, is rebutting that and made
a number of points, and they produced several exhibits. I
want to go through a handful of them because they
demonstrate the strength of the government case and the overwhelming
evidence that Komi was corrupt while FBI director. Quoting Exhibit
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thirteen includes damning evidence of then FBI Director Komy's handwritten
note on FBI director letterhead. I love this. You can't
get it much better than that. It's in his writing,
and it's on an FBI letterhead, evidencing of Komi's knowledge
(37:44):
of and even participation in the Russia collusion criminal conspiracy
against Trump. So he wrote stuff down. This is during
the Russia collusion thing that he was sending to associates
in the bureau. Exhibit five gets worse komy from his
burner Gmail and a burner Gmail is you create a
fake account that you can then delete the emails after
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you send them. The problem, of course, is is that
when something's out there in Cyber's face, it's hard to
ever come down. His name was Reinhold at Nieber. Reinhold
Nieber was actually James Colby. Just shows you what a
dink Coleby is, what a stupid name to uses. Your
fake name better be like if you use this first
of all, all fake names, sounds stupid. You can't come
up with a fake name that doesn't sound stupid. Reinhold Neiber,
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I mean me, it just sounds like he's some sort
of dignified pampas ass royalty or something or another. Anyway,
as Reinold Nieber, he sends out this email stating quote
to me, no need at this point it would be
shouting into the wind. Someday they will figure it out,
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and as Jack and Ben point out, my decision will
be one a president elect Clinton will be very grateful
for This is referring to starting the Russia colluson investigation,
and he said, at some point, everybody's gonna find out
there's no Russia collusion, but I'm gonna be a hero
and Hillary's gonna appreciate it. This is again during the
campaign he assumed that Hillary was going to win. It's
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when he green lit the Russia collusion investigation during the
twenty sixteen campaign. He's got a note saying, yeah, I
look at it. I'll find out that he did it.
But Hillary is gonna be the president. She's gonna be happy,
and everybody's gonna be glad that I did it. Came
on next in Exhibit seven, in response to planning a
New York Times the election eve hit piece against Trump,
then FBI Director James Comy tells FBI Special government employee
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Daniel Richmond, quote, well done, my friend, who knew this
would be oh so a fun. Comy denied in congressional
testimony that he ever knew that anybody leaked to The
New York Times. We now have documentation in which he
praises a guy for leaking to The New York Times.
Dead to rights, they got him perjury. Exhibit ten shows
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FBI Special government employed Daniel Richmond by the way, his
fake name on the emails is Michael Garcia. That's at
least a regular old fake name, right. Wonder what kind
of fake you see? You're not creative, what would your
fake name be. You'd be so stupid you use like
your first name, Paul Kramer. It's like, but I have
(40:17):
a radio name in Oshkosh. I called myself Mark Belson.
But that's because we didn't like having to have the name,
so we all took names that were almost the same
name that we had. Anyway, total aside, here is leaking
as an anonymous source to The New York Times reporter
Michael schmid On, behalf of then FBI Director James Comey.
Comy testified to the US Senate Judiciary Committee that he
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never did this. All right, I am now going to
embark on a feudal attempt to avoid public confusion on something.
There are just some things in which you know, people
are going to be mixed up and it's going to
be impossible. Will to knock the story down. Here's the story,
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and then I'm going to try to clarify the story.
Hughsar's House of Fine Diamonds is closing. It's in West
bed I'm just telling you it doesn't matter how many
times you mentioned, people are gonna think that Craig Hussar's
Fine Diamonds is closing. They're separate companies. They're just some
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businesses in which everybody with that name seems to go
into the business. A moving company in Milwaukee with those
like two companies that have the same family last name,
but they're totally separate companies. They're different. There's a relationship,
but different families started the business. Craig Hussar's Fine Diamonds
is in Brookfield. It was started by his parents. This
(41:49):
one Hussar's House of Fine Diamonds in West Bend, it
was Michael Husaer and Mary Hussar and now the owners there.
It was started by Michael Huser's a different father, so
they both family businesses that have been forever. But it's
the West Bend Hughes Sire's, which is not connected to
the Brookfield Craig Hughsar that is closing. I'm just telling you,
Craig Usar is going to go through hell for the
next three years of people thinking that he's closed. They're
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going out of business because people just think it's the
same business. And they probably confuse the two forever. One's
in Brookfield, the other ones in West bed I think
I've accomplished nothing with this. I think we just going
to be confused. Oh I heard Craig Ughsa is going
out of business. He's not. It's the other Husar's the
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West Bend one. It's going out of business. This is
the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast.
I want to spend a moment discussing Dick Cheney. It's
very hard to summarize his life and legacy. If you're
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not aware Cheney died at the age of eighty four.
The answer is, in my view, it's very mixed. People
have jumped all over Donald Trump. Why has any said it?
I know as of the timing of this podcast, he
hasn't said anything. Dick Chenney tried to destroy Donald Trump.
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Trump's not gonna say anything good about Channey now that
he's dead. And I understand that when someone dies that
I think is despicable, I don't go dancing on his grave,
especially if it's I mean, it's an international tyrant, you know,
Saddam Hussein, that's different. But if there's somebody that I
didn't like locally and they die. Just keep my mouth shut.
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The fact of the matter is is that Dick Cheney
was probably the strongest vice president in American history. He
ran foreign policy, directed the war in Iraq. And that's
not a knock on w. Bush. It's smart that a
president uses his vice president and his skills. And Chaney
showed stern backbone. He was revisedilled by the left. He
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was hated as much in his day as Charlie Kirk
was hated in his Yet he stood his ground and
on many things, including the terror threat, he was right.
I think he was proven wrong about Iraq. Trump made
that case, and I think that the case that American
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intervention in Iraq didn't accomplish anything is now in retrospect correct.
But it was my position, was Dick Cheney's position at
the time. The great flaw in the Cheney Bush doctrine
was the belief that you could turn any Muslim country
into a democracy. Then I wired that way, so all
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you ended up with was Iraq under different control and
created a tremendous upheaval in the Middle East, which eventually
strengthened Iran. So Trump starts running and Trump, you know,
had this attitude forever, including when he started running for president.
He was crapping over all these wars started by the
Bush wing of the Republican Party. Cheney hated that, and
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because he hated it and he had thin skin, he
turned on Trump. And I think this is the whole
roots of Liz Cheney hating him and the whole thing.
He can't stand the fact that Donald Trump was out
there giving his version of history that Bush and Cheney
were bad for America. And as a result, Dick Cheney
destroyed his legacy. He endorsed Kamala Harris for president. Kamala
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Harris being elected president would have destroyed our nation, the
very nation that Dick Cheney spent most of his career defending.
Cheney became a demagogue in hyping January sixth. So his
legacy is mixed in many respects. He was heroic, but
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he screwed up the last ten years of his life.
But back at the time, remember Bush and Cheney were
running after eight years of Clinton in which America's credibility
on the international stage was compromised. You know, we were
selling secrets to China. We were doing all those inside
(46:19):
deals with Charlie Tree and John Wong. The American military
was weakened, and Bush and Cheney responded to that, and
they also, aside from the war in Iraq, they responded
to the terror threat by defending our country. The war
in Afghanistan went on too long, but the initial go
knockout al Qaeda I think was justified. I think we
should have knocked out Olkeddy and then not worried about Afghanistan.
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So there were certainly things that our praiseworthy and defensible
that Dick Cheney was involved in. But he's left a
sour taste in many of our mouths over the fact
that he allowed this attack on some of the positions
that he took to sell out our nation and support
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people who wanted to destroy our country or were clearly
too incompetent to run our nation. I e. Kamala Harris
as for president, not saying something I don't find some
dignitary to show up and see seven terms of going
to the funeral, little the Cheneys to want them there.
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So silence in this case is probably appropriate. By the way,
I don't think silence in my case is hardly ever appropriate.
If I was silent, I would have no career. If
I had to do a job in which I didn't
shoot off my big mouth. What would that be? There
doesn't seem to be much that would be out there
for me for those of you wondering. Our very good horse,
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Special Wands sold at auction Monday night at the Facing
Tipton Sale in Kentucky. She got she went for one
point three million dollars. Remember I'm a partner. I don't
get the entire one point three million dollars. It was
read in them my rain jib. What I thought was fair, inappropriate,
and what it worth is the owners, new owners or Japanese.
They may continue to raise their centers straight to the
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breeding shed, but turned out to be a great horse
for us and financial windfall as well. Another podcast coming
up on Thursday, The.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.