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There's a problem here and we're going to dive into it.
Marxists are trying to take over our country. They may succeed,
and while that's happening, the most influential conservative commentators are
arguing about each other. That's the problem. We're going to
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dive into that in the first segment of today's program.
I had this plan over the weekend, and of course
it's a long weekend since the last podcast is on
Thursday and the first one is on Monday. I had
this plan over the weekend to devote the entire Monday
podcast Today's podcast to two stories. So had this joke. Unfortunately,
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we're not going to do what I plan to do,
but I have this. I still have the joke in
my mind, and now I can't use the joke. And
you know how it is when I can't use a joke,
When something funny occurs to me, I feel the need
to tell the joke anyway, even if it doesn't apply,
because I mean, it's just otherwise it's flopping around in
my brain useless. So now I have to do it.
I was gonna say, this is a two story podcast.
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Two stories. You have to walk up the steps to
get to the second one. It's a stupid joke. It's
amazing that it's amazing that I felt the need to
tell the joke when it's that stupid. I think I've
done pretty well though, telling stupid jokes and making and
getting amusement out of the fact that they were funny,
mostly because they were so stupid. Johnny Carson was pretty
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good at that, was it. He He kind of like
bomb out and it was funnier to bomb out than anyway.
There are two huge stories that we're going to kind
of at least my podcast standards, do a deep dive into,
and some other stories that I want to cover. We're
going to open with the one that I just mentioned
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I'm going to tell you what's going on here, and
we're going to dive into it in some depth, and
then I'm going to give you my theory as to
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why it's going on. For those of you who were
not listeners to my old radio show, I talked all
the time about you have to know the why. You
have to figure out the why to understand the what.
Here's the why. There has been over the last several
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months a growing rift. Isn't the right word. War might
be the right word between some of the most important
conservative media voices kind of separate and outside of this
would be say Fox News, Newsmax, some of the others,
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the voices that are kind of mostly on cable television,
but the other sphere of conservative commentators, primarily podcasters people
like me, but at the highest level of this, have
been engaging in open warfare. And as I said at
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the beginning, you can't possibly miss the point any worse
than this. For the first time in my lifetime, and
I would say the first time seriously, I actually would
think the first time ever. The Red scare during the
McCarthy era, it was very unlikely that the Communists, the
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people siding with Russia and so on, we're actually gonna
take over the country. They didn't. First time in my lifetime,
Marxism has taken hold and it is growing in popularity.
You take a look and you can say, no, all
New York is very liberal. True when you take a
look at the voting patterns of people under the age
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of forty in New York, I mean, Mamdanni just killed.
When you take a look at the blowback from Democrats
across the country, furious with the handful of Democratic senators
who voted to end the filibuster last night, it's just
clear we have a Marxist movement that is not fringe anymore,
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that it is mainstreaming. I think it is likely that
the Democratic candidate in twenty eight for president is going
to be a Marxist and we're going to have a
tremendous battle between capitalism, which now seems to be Mega
and Marxism. And while this is going on, the most
important voices in Mega slash capitalism slash conservatism are angrily
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attacking one another. Now, before I dive into this, there
are going to be some people say, who are you
to criticize this? Aren't you always criticizing the Wisconsin Republican Party. Yes,
I'm going to explain why there's a difference here. The
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Wisconsin Republican Party keeps losing elections and the leadership is
screwed up. The same is not true with what's going
on in the conservative movement in America. We just won
the presidency of the United States with a candidate overcoming
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more thrown at him than maybe any figure in American
history other than those that were outright assassinated. The House
and the Senator Republican. There is Republican governors all over
the country. So there isn't the level of failure that
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I'm seeing that requires structural change here in the state
of Wisconsin. So that's my backdrop. Some of the venom
seems to be coming from two to three really prominent
voices on the right. In the cases of a couple
of them, they are accused of going off the rails.
The third one has been off the rails the whole time.
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They have a lot that they agree with in common,
but as often happens here, the things that they disagree
about are creating visceral animosity and it is an enormous problem.
The way that I'm going to dive into and illustrate
this is through I think she called it Kelly Festa whatever.
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Megan Kelly had a two day event in which she
invited a number of prominent conservative figures to come on
the stage and do interviews with her, which she then
put onto her podcast. But she did it in front
of an audience. I think all the big ones are there,
Tucker Carlson, Shapiro, Michael Knowles, etc. And it was one
on one and so on, and she spent a fair
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amount of time discussing with the both of them why
they're all beating up on one another. There are two
separate cases here, but all of this is related. The
first one is Candae Owans. No again, I'm going to
get to the why I think all of this is
going on at the end, so bear with me. Candace
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Owens is a remarkably talented personality. She has an extremely
popular podcast. She emerged from really obscurity ten years ago
to being a giant. But in the process of going
from obscurity to a giant. She's really stamped on the
people that gave her a leg up on the way up,
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and she seems to be in fact stomping on everyone,
and some people believe that she's wandered off into Weirdoville.
The thing about this is that it is impossible to
say Candace is right Candace is wrong. It's way more
nuanced than that. For example, she's done this expose on
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the wife of the French leader Macron, Brigitte Macron, and
as a very compelling case that mcron's wife is actually
mccrone's natural father who's had a sex change operation and
then would his own child once he became she It
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is bizarre, but the case that she makes is compelling, persuasive,
and believable. I don't know if it's true, but it
is believable. So I'm not talking about that. I'm talking
about some of the other positions that she's taken, some
of which seem to be, if not openly anti semitic,
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borderline and in the process attacking conservative allies. Leading up
to the most latest incident in which she seems to
be trying to take down all of Turning Point USA,
which is I think the most important conservative organization to
develop it in my lifetime. This was discussed at this
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weekend Megan Kelly event last week Megan Kelly event. And
Megan's talking here with Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's another podcaster,
and he's been very critical of Candice Owen's. Meghan's role
in all of this just seems to be she's trying
to be the peacemaker. She's trying to do what I'm
kind of advocating here, the people that need to understand
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that you need to aim your criticism at the Marxists
that are trying to take over this country, the people
that have abused the government and weaponized the government against conservatives,
including etc. So that's her role. And she's talking to
Ben Shapiro here. And this is a rather brief segments
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fifty seconds or so in which the subject of Candace
Owans comes up. Let's listen to it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I think that what Candie Owns is doing right now
is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay,
and I say that again, but what because like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't know pine on whether it's evil or not.
But my position is it's really none of my business,
and why is it?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I have a question, why is it none of
your business? I mean, you comment on these things for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not mother of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, But if this were on the left and somebody
were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him,
I assume that you would be talking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of Yes of
murdering her own husband.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing,
including Seth Dyllan, of being involved in the murder of
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, all right, that summary by Shapiro is essentially accurate.
There's a backstory here. Candace Owen's at one point almost
the partner of Charlie Kirk. In turning point, there was
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a falling out. She also had a falling out years
earlier with Ben Shapiro, who you just heard there. And
as I say, some of the critics of Candace point
out that the people that gave her her breaks to
begin with and gave her platforms are the ones that
she's stomped on the hardest. There was a falling out
with her and turning Point, and as I say, there
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tends to be falling out with Candace in just about
everybody that she's ever dealt with. All Right, Charlie Kirk
has assassinated. There are many people who are wondering how
this could happen, and some people have taken the look
at videos and look at this, look at that, look
at the other thing, and so on. Cannas has taken
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it a step further in which she's on her podcast
essentially accused the leadership of Turning Point of being involved
in the killing of Charlie Kirk and setting all of
this up. And her strong implication is is that Erica
Kirk was the ringleader of this so she could take
over Turning Point USA. So Kenneth is saying this, I
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think she's out of her mind or has become demagogic
on that issue. There is no proof of anything that
she says. On the other hand, there is an intense
FBI investigation and determine whether or not the weirdo who
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was in love with a trans roommate and trying to
impress the trans roommate did he act on his own
or was there other assistance and so on, without regard
to what happened there. Candace Owens is being deliberately provocative
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and basically as trying to bring down all of Turning Point,
which in the wake of Charlie's death, we don't know
if it's going to survive or not, but if it happens,
it would be devastating to the conservative movement. That's the
first one. Now, with regard to Candace, a lot of
people on the right who are in love with her
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have written her off. This isn't a new thing, which
Shapiro said here. There are a lot of people who
think that Candace is gone half looney. Over the last
two to three years, I've considered her to be eclectic,
and I think that she's been trying to create her
own unique lane in Conservatism. That's before this lump everybody
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involved a Turning Point together and all of them, never
mind if maybe one security person was in on something,
or I lump everybody in on killing Charlie Kirk. The
second area is perhaps more important, and it has to
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do with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson has changed since he's
left Fox. It may be that he's changed since he's
left Fox because there are a lot of things that
he wanted to dive into that. He knew that he
couldn't run Fox, and that he was liberated once Fox
got rid of him, and he's moved into his own empire,
which is certainly the reach of Tucker Carlson. Now it's
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I don't even know how many times greater. But when
he was limited to Fox, there's a narrow universe of
people watching cable TV and following them on the web
that we're able to see it as opposed to the
empire that he's created now, in which his views are many, many,
many times he's way bigger. One of the areas of
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disagreement that Tucker has and Tucker's, you know, was he
was in Trump's inner circle, and I don't even know
if he supports Trump anymore. It's it's, you know, Trump
has t talked, called him former supporter. And so it's
started as the rift over a single issue, which is
American support of Israel, which is certainly an important issue,
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but I don't think most American conservatives think it's the
most important issue facing us right now. The marx has
taken over the Democratic Party and may take over the country,
for heaven's sakes, it's a bigger issue. I think these relationship,
but it started with that. Now Shapiro is Jewish, he
hasn't liked a lot of the things that Carlson did,
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and one of the things that he's going to launch
into here in Paul. I think we can stop this
as we plan it through. I'm going to analyze this
as you heard. It's an extended thing in which Shapiro
defends He's been pounding on Carlson. Ben Shapiro's been pounding
on Tucker Carlson, and Tucker Carlson's been pounding on Ben
Shapiro and who started It is almost beyond the point
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other than that they are going after one another, and
it's moved well beyond the issue of Israel to the
point that Shapiro is suggesting that Carlson is just endorsing
desk spots Carlson hand on Tucker. Carlson had on his
program a guy named Matt Fuentes is increasingly would you say,
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Nick Foyd, you're right, Thank you for the correction, Nick Fes.
Nick Fuenes has gotten to be very very big. He
is to the far far, far right. He's spoken very
positively of Hitler. He was on Tucker Carlson's podcast. Now Megan,
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who's trying to be the peacemaker with everybody here. She
likes Tucker Carlson, she likes Ben Shapiro. She's not been
spending any time criticizing anyone on the right. She's rightly focusing,
as I've tried to do, focus the real problem, which
is the left of media, et cetera. And they go
into this back and forth in which Shapiro says it
is essential to call all Carlson for some of the
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things that he's doing, and he's now accusing him of
sucking up to Nick Fuentes by throwing him softballs and
sloppy wet kisses. I don't want to give the whole
thing away. Megan is taking the opposite approach. She thinks
that the use of the softballs was Tucker's attempt to
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take down Nick Fouentes, not give him a platform. But
in this discussion that goes on for a few minutes here,
the whole thing about this battle on the right kind
of comes out. So let's listen to a portion of it.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The way I waited to attack Tucker until he glossed
Nick Fuentes, who is that has nothing to do with
his room. Nickquinez hates Ju.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm not saying he didn't have a right to go
after him.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean I think you you did.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
We know it was right and you felt and he
mentioned a few times in his interview with he did.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But again I don't think it's about that, because if
he had not mentioned me in that interview with Nick
fines As, I still would have said something about it,
because again, glossing people who are white supremacists is bad electorally.
On a pragmatic level, a right wing that embraces its
own fringes will end up in the same position as
a left wing that has embraced So that's.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Why I want to get into it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It embraces Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
So now, having spoken to Tucker, I actually see that
interview very differently. And I did listen to the interview,
and I knew what Nick found says was and I
think he did show himself to be who he is.
It wasn't his most vile stuff, but you got the
feel for what this guy was. But I really think
Tucker was talking to him Ben to put like a
bumper on this guy, because what Tucker was urging him
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the whole time was to understand that collective punishment for
any one group of people is wrong. It's deeply immoral,
and it's anti Christian, which this guy is supposed to be,
and reminding him of how deeply immoral that is, that
you should not be looking at a group of people
whomever it is. The Left does it to everyone, whites mostly,
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but like this collective shame white men in particular, and
there's a group of people like Nick Funt does, that
does it to groups of Jews. And he was making
the case throughout the whole interview in the way that
Tucker does. He's not like you or me. He's not
like pointed in cross examining.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not true and was making fundamentally untrue. No, no, no, Senator
Ted Cruz.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Whether that is he gave it to Ted Cruz because
Ted Cruz is a politician.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's oh yeah, hold on.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So only politicians get cross examined, you don't, Well, it
depends on the person, Tucker. Tucker would never cross examine
a person who is not a politician.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's his rule.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Hawker has excoriated public figures who purport to speak for
us and represent us for many years. Nick Funt does
is a podcaster civilian.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, I just have a question. We all in our
industry are constantly excoriating people who are in our industry.
It happens all the time, every single day.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, Okay, get interview.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But again we can agree to disagree on your interpretation
of what Tucker was doing there. I think everybody should
watch and determine for themselves what they think Tucker was
doing in that interview. And I urge you to watch
it back to back with the Ted Cruz interview to
determine whether you think that that was an aggressive Tucker
Carlson interview, and you can judge that I.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Didn't say it.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I didn't say it was aggressive.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't think he would say it was aggressive. And
I think his.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Point was this guy, first of all, he's become a behemoth. Sadly,
he's got five million viewers on Rumble, he's got a
million followers on X.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
This is all before Tucker Carlson and he was platformed
to hate that verb. But he was platformed by Patrick
Beth David, and he went on Dave Smith Show, and
he went on another big show. He's been getting more
and more purchase in the political ecosphere, including right wing,
and I think that's Patrick Beck. David has a huge shoke.
I know, But Patrick, did you know that Patrick Beck
David had him on?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Did his life blow up?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Patrick Beck David did a significantly more aggressive interview with
Nick Fuentez than Tucker did.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Okay, but my point is simply he's growing, He's growing
in stature, and so what I saw Tucker do was
not whitewash his ideas, but try to put bumpers up
on the guy. I know Tucker well, and I think
that was his approach and the way, the way if
you want to put a bumper up on Nick Fuentes,
is it helpful to say you're fucking vile, you're an
anti semi No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, that doesn't put up Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You know it isn't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That makes the audience feel good because you have hand
to hand combat, but it doesn't help change that guy's
view or his extreme, his extremeness at all.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, I'll tell you what doesn't change Nick Flent's his view.
Tucker Carlson was his arm around Nick Flents grinning for
the camera. Well, Nick Fuentz has tweets out America first
and then triumphantly goes on the air the next day
to explain that he has essentially used Tucker Carlson as
a vehicle for manipulating other people. Okay, so what Nick
Fuentes is saying, not me, Nick Fuentes, Okay, and Nick
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flent And by the way, I will again say that,
Tucker Carlson, when you say to somebody in an interview,
do you condemn anti Semitism? And then the person says sure,
which is what Nick fin has said, he said, I'm
not an anti simon, which is blatantly untrue. A responsible,
a responsible journalist would then follow up demonstrating that that
is false. Tucker did not do that. He allowed him
to get away with that, and then he allowed him
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to talk about quote unquote organized a jeury followed by
Nick Flentes being treated to a disquisition by Tucker Carlson
about why Christian Zionists, of all human beings on earth,
are the people that he hates the most.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
He took that back. You can't take that back. How
do you take that back? He did have. He went,
he should explain why it was wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You should explain how Christian Zionists are actually wonderful people.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Talker is very quick to self flagelate. And he went
on with Dave Smith the next day, the next week whatever, Monday, tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They stopped the tape a second. Now they're getting into
For people who didn't hear any of this, I don't
want you to lose the context. Tucker Carlson, during this
whole back and forth, in his criticism of Israel and
so on, made this comment that Christian Zionists, in other words,
Christians who believe that Israel has a right to exist
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are the worst people in the world, which that includes
probably most conservatives. Most conservatives thinks Israel right to consist,
and many Conservatives are Christian. And the point that Megan
Kelly is making is Tucker took that back and knew
that it was an asinine thing to say. He said
it and then took it back. And Shapiro is just
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challenging all of this. Throw the thing out there, and
then try to pull it back after the whole thing landed.
By the way, for those of you that are wondering
about just about every podcast through out there uses vulgarity
other than me, I made the decision we're not censoring
any of this out because I don't want to launder
or sanitize anything that either Shapiro or Kelly or anybody
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else in this thing is saying. So we're going to
play this exactly as they played it, and exactly is
their thing was put out there. But this is the
back and forth here, and you can see that Shapiro
was making the point that Tucker Carlson has now gone
so far in this anti Israel thing to excoriate every
American conservative at an every Christian who disagrees with him
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on the one issue. And Shapiro is saying this is intolerable.
And Megan Kelly, who clearly does not agree with Carlson
on this but likes Tucker and is his friend, is
trying to suggest that this is not something that should
disqualify Tucker from being part of the conservative movement. And
so on. No, it goes on and said that was stupid.
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I didn't mean that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
He said, I'm angry at people like Lindsay Graham. I'm
angry at people like Ted Cruz because he thinks they
run headfirst in these conflicts and they don't think about
what's going to happen to America.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Call up if we're talking about firing inside the tent?
What everything Lindsay Graham okay? And I'm not a huge
Lindsay Graham fan. He votes with the President of the
United States one hundred percent of the time, and Tucker
spent yesterday's show excoriating him as a psychosexual death worshiper.
Does that sound like firing outside the tent?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Again? Not offended?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Again the questions that I'm asking here, I'm not asking
you to do anything, Megan. I know our beef is
not with each I'm not okay when I draw a
line with regards to what I believe Tucker Carlson is
doing to the conservative movement and what he is fomenting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That is because that is.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And everyone can make their own decision as to whether
they think that I am right or whether I'm wrong,
and where they choose to draw the line with regard
to the conservative movement. The question for me is always
whether somebody's statements are forwarding moral values that I think
are worthwhile. I did not get into this business for
the money or for the clicks.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You didn't neither.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Why did he was that?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Neither did he?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean he may not have That's fine. I certainly
did not. I'm only going to speak for myself, and
what that means for me is that if I see
somebody breach basic moral values by having on a Nazi
and in my own view, you can take your own view.
In my own view, Gloss the Nazi, then I'm going
to speak out about that, and I'm going to point
out that there is a long pattern of him ideologically
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laundering terrible ideas over the course of the last two years,
ranging from traveling to Russia to sniff the bread and
explain why the Russian regime is actually wonderful, two saying
last week that the Venezuelan regime of Nicholas Maduro is
actually not that bad because they're being attacked by, in
his words, globo homo. Tucker's made the point.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm not going to hear it be Tucker's defender, but
he's made the point that Maduro is culturally conservative.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Who gives us shit? The guy's a communist dictator. Everyone
in his country's eating dog. He's shipping Fentanel to the
United States to kill Americans. Why don't give us shit
Whether he's whether he's anti LGBTQ, right, this is the
number one thing about Nicolas Manduro. You know, farm down
the list you have to get before you can get
to anything remotely recommendable about Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
All right, they got into at the end. Maduro, for
those of you not aware, is the dictator of Venezuela,
and Tucker Carlson has been somewhat sympathetic forward him. Now
a couple of points of this. I've had a theory
that I've expressed for thirty six years here start dating
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back to the old radio show, that the political spectrum
is not aligned words when you go to the far
far far far far left like Mamdani and maybe even
a little bit beyond him far left, aoc Jasmin Procket
fire left, and then you go to the far far
far far far far right, so the Proud Boys or
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not Nazis nick Fundes would be in there. That they're
not at the ends of a line that is a
circle that if you go far enough left or far
enough right, you bang into one another. I've contended that forever.
You've heard me contend that, and I think this is
proof of this. Now my own view, just in analyzing
Tucker is is that I think that Tucker is I'm
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not supportive but somewhat sympathetic of this democratic socialist movement,
the Marxist movement. I didn't say supportive, somewhat apathetic because
they share the same kind of disgust for rich elites,
billionaires and so on. Tucker has said, for example, that
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it's unfair to say that Mamdanni is anti Semitic. Well,
you know, Shapiro will go on a great length to
put on all the things that he said on that. Well,
why is Tucker spending any time saying all these good
things with regard to Mamdani. I think that you see
in the case of Tucker that he has moved far
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enough away from some conservative beliefs in his general loathing
of elitist and I loathe elitis myself, that he's moving
over in which he sort of banging in to that
side of this. And I think you will find if
you looked at the voting in New York that a
lot of people who voted for Trump voted for Mandanni,
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that they were both weirdly anti establishment type votes. The
problem is there's tremendous ideological difference between the two of them. Marxism, socialism, communism.
All we fail and always lead to terrible repression and oppression,
whereas capitalism and true democracy always lead to prosperity and
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innovation and a higher quality of life and greater morality
and more freedom. The fact that there is a common
element of the two of opposing elitism doesn't change the
fact that ideologically there's a difference. Secondly, now I hinted
at this from the beginning that I was going to
explain why all of this is going on. There are
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a number of conservative voices that are trying to kind
of be middlemen and realize who the real opponent is.
I think I'm in one of them, Megan Chillies and
one of them, Patrick Batt, David was mentioned, quite a
few others, just a lot of them. Ruben and I
would then throw in most of the people that are
say on Fox and even on Newsmax and so on.
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But there are some of these others that have gotten
to be huge in the podcast world that are now
looking for areas to attack one another. I am convinced
I have this figured out. Before podcasting started, there was
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one giant voice in the conservative movement, and that was Rush.
Rush was bigger than everybody, in part because prior to podcasts,
there was really some of the talk shows on cable
and conservative radio. There was nothing else. And even in
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Megan's Kelly Fest, the thing that she had there was
a lengthy video about Rush and how almost everyone in
the conservative movement can praise their growth to at some
point or another, having been influenced by Rush. So Rush
was the undenied, most influential and powerful conservative voice of
someone not in the government, in other words, an outsider commenting.
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But now in the podcastville, who's the biggest star? Wide open?
Is it it? I think that there's a lot of
rivalry here. Charlie Kirk was clearly ascending, and I think
that a couple of people who fell out of the
orbit of Charlie Kirk resented that was Candace. One of them.
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Candace came up in the Daily Caller Empire, which Shapiro
was connected to. They had a falling out. There are
all of these people where I just think that there's this,
even if it's not conscious, this desire to separate from
one another instance to who's the big dog? And right
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the right wing blog a sphere, podcast, sphere, whatever you
want to call it, and it's leading to these attacks
in which the larger purpose of the things that you
believe in become I think secondary now every one of
these issues that's back and forth. I think that in
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some cases Shapiro is way too critical of everyone who
doesn't share his view on Israel, and I think Shapiro
is too quick to criticize other Conservatives. I also think
the Tucker's doing a lot of things that are fringe.
I think Candice is doing a fair number of things
that are fringe. But I think on the overall, both
of them are extremely important and extremely talented. Just as
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with regard to me, I don't think it's anybody listening
to my podcast. He doesn't disagree with me on a
handful of things. It's the larger thing to understand, especially
after what we've been through for the last not four
but eight nine years, where the entire government was used
to bring down Trump spying Conservatives smash us down, and
they can't stand the fact that Trump won and got
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it back. They want to once and for all take
this away and stomp us out for wrever and turn
us into a Marxist nation too. In the realm of this,
have our most important figures fighting over what should be
fourth or fifth or sixth tier issues. The whole issue
of Israel, I think is resolving itself. I think Trump
is bringing peace to the Middle East. I think that
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Israel is going to be defanged now that Hamas is defanged.
I think that Trump allowing Israel to take out the
Iran nukes has eliminated their ran problem for a while.
And Trump's not going to try to cut deals in
which every one of these nations gets along with us
and therefore with one another, to end up just eviscerating
and attacking and tearing everybody's eyeballs out over this is
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certainly not a productive thing to do. But I understand,
as I say, why it's going on. There's just an
I know what it is. You know, there were a year,
for example, before Charlie Sykes wandered completely into Looneyville. I
mean before that, back when Charlie was a mainstream conservative
just as I was. We have both had huge shows
here right Well, it's a rivalry. He worked for a
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different company. I don't. Ever, when I was at WISN
and I'm still affiliated with iHeart obviously, and I knew
my show from the WIS and stews, I never had
a rival where Jay or Dan or anybody, because we
worked for the same company. We're all on the same thing.
A lot of people listen to Jabel, then they're around
to listen to my show Vice Versa, and said Charlie
was onto the station. So from time to time we
would disagree, and I would say things that I disagree with,
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But I don't think I never despised him, wanted to
take him down and destroy his career, because until he
went nuts on the whole issue of Trump, it wasn't
my position he was wrong or terrible or responsible or
any of those things. I still don't even think that.
I just think he's lost his marbles. I don't think
Charlie sticks a bad guy. I know. I just just
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say I just think he's lost his marbles. But I'm not.
But way before that, I was never in this who's
the number one? Who's the top dog? Because I thought
it was fairly clear I was the number one, which
I was. I think you could talk about that by
any number of things, whether I was or I wasn't.
But I just think that there's a lot of this,
especially given that some of these people are young, and
there's legacy building and all of that stuff. You see
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that some of the more peacemaker oriented in this wing,
like Megan's older than the others of them, and then
there's a guy like me, and oh fine, I just,
for heaven's sakes, take a look at what's going on
right now when understand that none of this is helping
anything other than you're letting your own egos and get
in Alan. I think it's self destructive for all of them. Right,
Paul agrees with me. Well, that's all I need. If
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I only get you to agree with me, then my
life is made. Paul supports me on this, What were
you gonna say? Yes, the Democrats are employed to I mean,
everybody seems to be imploding with Then let's move to
a couple of other stories here in this segment. Then
I'm gonna move on to another big story that I
have to date quickly. A number of Democrats joined Republicans
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overnight to vote to end the filibuster. This does not
end the government shutdown the filibuster. You couldn't vote. A
filibuster is in the Senate. It requires sixty votes to
end debate. They voted to end debate, so now they
still have to pass the bills, and they're sending a
bill back to the House. This could still fall apart,
but I don't think that it will. But we'll take
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several days now to pass the legislation. But the prolonging
of the debate, that part ended when a number of
Democrats just either gave up or said screw it. We're
not accomplishing anything here. Trump is not going to cave
in on all of these demands that we are going
to have. We're going to pass a funding billt and
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for doing this the Democrat. Yet there's just the eight
Democrat I think it was eight, whatever the number was,
the voter joined with the Republicans to end the debate.
They're just being attacked by the left with the level
of rage and hatred that's off the charts. The most
interesting one to me is that durban was one of
them that voted to do it. I as you know,
I know Dick Durbin. We sat next to each other
at ET. How many times have I putted that out, Paul?
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You're going to finally, you finally are going to remember
that now, aren't you. I mentioned it constantly. You always
forget it, but I mentioned it constantly. I know why
Dick Derbin voted to do it. You know why Dick
Derban voted to do it. He's not running for reelection.
I think that they are all bulls like him that
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are sick at what's happened to the Democratic Party, but
that he, in order for survival, let it go along
with all of it. And now he's finally breaking ranks
here figuring, well, I'm not my career is over. Dick
is about one hundred and ninety two years old. I
got no future readyway, et cetera. Anyway, the level of
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hatred and animosity directed at them is stunning. And here's
the thing about this. At some point it had to end.
We can't have the government not funded forever, which is
why it was so stupid for the Democrats to start
this whole thing in the first place. Secondly, Trump, if
the Democrats regained control of one or both houses of Congress,
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he's gonna have to cut deals with them all the time.
He doesn't have to do what now. He's not going
to cave into them now and give away the farm
just because they won't end the debate. Another quick story,
just another example of people who have killed themselves by
their Trump derangement syndrome. This one's quite interesting. The BBC.
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You know what the BBC is, don't you? That is correct,
the British Broadcasting Corporation. That is telling Before the twenty
twenty four election, in other words, about a month before
Trump ran against Kamala, the BBC did a report on
what it was that Trump actually said on January sixth
of twenty one. You know, the Democrats tried to take
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down Trump and twenty four through this supposed anarchy that
he was bringing in January sixth, which of course I
contend is a load of crap. Trump contends a load
of crap. So the BBC now understand the BBC's audience
is not mean. Not many Americans follow the Some do,
but it's not like they swing the American election. It's
primarily for a British and international audience. The BBC edited
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Trump's comments on January sixth to make it They took
out sentences to make it appeer in which as though
he was urging people to store in the Capitol, when
in fact, of course he said don't do anything violent.
They edited out to make it look like Trump's The
top two executives of the BBC were forced to resign
for the British government. The BBC is part of the government.
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Resign over the weekend. The top two people in the
BBC lost their jobs because an investigation was conducted and
it was determined that they deliberately did this editing. So
they ruined their careers over and a something in which
they don't They weren't going to change any American minds anyway.
It was the BBC. How much do you have to
hate Trump to destroy your own career, destroy all these
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ethics for something that, even if it had worked, would
not have done any good. Because it's the BBC. It's
time to take a break on the markpelling podcast. This
is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're going to get into
in a moment here another big story that requires kind
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of a deep dive in the fashion that we did
in segment number one. But before I do that, you know,
I get these things all the time for people, you're
the greatest podcast, you're the greatest talk show host, You've
changed my life, etc. They come in quite a bit,
and I understand why it is, particularly here in Milwaukee.
When I started out, there was not any conservative voice anywhere,
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and my audience became very, very large, and it had
a large impact on a lot of people. I've shared
adults who said that, you know, I was once a
liberal change, et cetera. This is an interesting one, and
I'm bringing it up because in a way it relates
a bit at least to the story that we're going
to get into. I'm going to not include anyone's name here. Mark.
This thank you is perhaps a long time coming. During
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my children's young years, we listened to all the various
programs on WIS and eleven thirty regularly, especially when driving.
My youngest, a bit of a rascal, latched onto your influence,
along with positive influence from his grandfather, my father. When
we moved him from one grade school to eighth grade
into another due to dysfunction in the junior high, my
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father was often the one to drive him and have
some solid life value chats with him. In addition to this,
later in high school, I discovered this young kid falling
asleep with earbuds in, and when glancing at his phone,
I had to chuckle that he was listening to your
podcast for hours into the night, not even sure I
(42:50):
knew you had podcasts at the time. In other words,
she's referring to we took our old radio show and
turned it into a podcast. It wasn't really a podcast,
which just a way of listening to the radio show
without having to listen live between three and six. And
she's pointing out that this young man in high school
was listening to my old radio shows via podcast in
the middle of the night, and that's why he was
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getting so tired. Continuing, although yes, we were a united
conservative family having active conversations with our three children, I
am thrilled that all three are still conservative to this day.
All I know in the mid to upper twenties and
early thirties, my daughter went to a conservative Christian liberal
arts college, my middle son went to a tech school,
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and the youngest son went to a liberal state school.
And I believe because of your additional influence in his
developmental period, he actively sought out the Young Republicans group
at his university and stayed connected. Just thought you would
enjoy knowing. I believe your additional impact on particularly my
younger kid, who could have been painted by the university,
is on solid ground. Other conservative friends whose children went
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to universities have not been so fortunate. Then mentions a
couple of things about what they're doing with their careers
and signs it. Now, let's dive into a story here.
This story. I should mention that the Thursday podcast last
week we recorded on Wednesday. I had to I don't
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had is a strong word. I had a strong need,
not quite close they had. I had to go to
Florida for a few days and I got back. The
whole plain thing required numerous audibles, but we did the podcast.
So I was gone for three or four days, and
several stories broke during the period that I was gone,
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and one of them that's become a huge thanks to YouTube,
A huge story nationally is this story of the substitute
teacher at an elementary school in Muskigo who showed up
to school unbelievably drunk. I'm guessing most of you know
about the I was not here, Paul. Were you aware
the story before I gave you all this material? Yeah,
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so I know that some of you, especially nationally, may
not be fully aware of it. So I'll give you
the quick background of this and then dive into the story.
The story, as reported is that a substitute teacher showed
up at an elementary school in Muskego, and the staff
could tell that he was intoxicated, so they called the police.
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Upon investigation, initially claimed that he was driven to the school,
but upon investigation they drunk tested him and so on,
and it turned out that his BAC blood alcohol content
was zero point three six. For those of you who
don't know anyone drinking of those numbers, that's unbelievably high.
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I know the general rule that he you know, the
bigger you are, the more it affects the numbers. Like
a frail, thin young woman is going to have a
greater impact than the alcohol than some big, fat guy.
The rule is sort of like one drink takes your
point oh two to another one point oh four and
so on, and you lose point oh two an hour.
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That can vary widely depending on the strength of the
alcohol and your body weight and so on. In addition,
there's other things that effect affect your impairment. Are you
using with any medications and so on, But that's a
general I know that I personally can never get to
a point three six. I would not I'd get sick,
fall asleep, pass out long before that. Thankfully, point three six.
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It's that's four and a half times the legal limit
for driving and he shows up to teach school. It
was his fourth offense. Ow I now everybody's reacting to
the first part of the story, but my analysis here
has to do with a different component. But to give
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you a feel for the level of intoxication of the guy.
And his name is Christopher rees Rias. He's had various addresses.
He's moved around it. As I've checked his court file,
he's had different addresses, not surprising for guys going through
a lot of trouble. He's got an address in Jefferson
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County right now. He was assigned as a sub at Muskigo.
The police body cam has been picked up by one
of the sites that's on YouTube that does crime reporting
and police videos and so on. Some of these sites
are huge. This one's Law and Order Network. The number
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of hits it's had on YouTube is in the hundreds
and hundreds of thousands. I don't even know what it
is right now. The last I checked, it was over
four hundred thousand. And they did the bodycam of the
whole thing, and it's like fifty five minutes long. I'll
tell you, Paul, remind me at the end of the
segment to tell people how they can find it. We're
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going to play a portion of this toward the end
now as the setup to this. Initially, the police recalled
to the school by the staff, good for them, and
they were questioning him, and you see the body cam
of the whole thing, and his initial story was is
that he was dropped off of the school, and he
goes on and on and on about the wars that
he has in his life, and he's being extremely open
about everything, and he's slurring a speech like a nut.
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I mean, you could just see how intoxicated he was,
and he's going through all of these things, etc. It
was not until later on in the explanation that they
realized that his story about being dropped off was not true,
meaning now they have an investigation for drunk driving, because
if he was driving it in this condition, say just
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showing up drunk, he's not in and of itself a crime,
even though you shouldn't be drunk on a teacher, but
if he was driving at this it was a new thing.
So for this reason they now are taking him to
do a blood draw. The law in the state of
Wisconsin is is that you can refuse to blow into
the breathalyzer. However, you can get a quote order on
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him to do a blood draw. Also, you can voluntarily
do the breathalyzer. He did eventually do the breathalyzer, and
that's where it came back at the zero point threety six.
And you're going to pick this up. Now. He's back
at the facility with the police officer and they're explaining
they're going to the rigamar role of reading that if
you refuse to take the breath test, et cetera. And
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it's going to be hard to pick up on what
he's saying, but you can just see that the guy
is in total dysfunction from his dependence on alcohol, in
which he's focused mostly on why, you know, what do
you have to mean to be so? Well? Listen to
just this brief portrait of it, which gives you a
sense of how bad off he was.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yes? Why?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Why why are we yes or no?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Why are we becoming so mean?
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I'm not trying to be mean, man, I'm trying to
speak this posss I would get you from pointing to
point me as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm just so all I knew was so distressing and
yelled at me, well, because I was.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He wanted you to pay attention to what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I'm not if you're giving me the fourth one, I
already have heard the third, four second, first one.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Will you submit to an evidence try chemical test of
your blood?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
However, I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for it.
Do I have to pay for it? Sixteen didn't burn
not off pus? Okay, I mean now he's worried about
do we have to pay for the test? I just
so A number of things have come out. What I
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clearly we see what the problem for this he's thirty
years old. What the problem for this guy is. He's
got a serious problem. To me, the more important dysfunction.
It's not his dysfunction, but the dysfunction of how someone
in this situation in life, with all of these drunk
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drivings and so on, is a driving and b being
hired as a sub in school. So let's move into
the story. First of all, he's at Muskego. I admit
I didn't know this. I did not know that school
districts didn't hire their subs. Did you know that? I
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didn't know it? Moskeigo says, we don't hire our subs.
We use Kelly Services. Kelly Services has a division called
Kelly Education that places substitute teachers in school districts. And
Musketigo is angry with Kelly Services, the big temp agency,
for not having flagged this teacher who had two earlier
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drunk drivings this year alone, and Kelly the company was
contacted and they had a PR person who said, gobbling book,
you know, our highest commitment is a safety and call
of education, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, But no
explanation as to how they didn't. They don't do the
most basic thing. In Wisconsin, all arrests and almost all
arrests and almost all court cases are Online's the easiest
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thing in the world to check. How they never check
this guy and what kind of monitoring are they doing
of the people that they're placing a substitutes. So the
first breakdown is these schools, apparently with all the money
that we're spending on education, they don't have somebody on
the staff that's in charge of hiring a substitute that
they've got to outsource that they outsourced this to a
company that's apparently doing a terrible job or actually no
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job of screening candidates whatsoever. So that's of this person
who has this record. It never should have been a
sub given the fact that their life was going off
the rails in the first place, got in there. I wonder,
I have my doubts. I wonder will Muskigo dump Kelly
Services given the fact that they sent a guy who
was having extreme problems all year prior to this incident
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to come and teach into the school. Secondly, what I'm
going to do here is walk through the year twenty
twenty five in this guy's legal life. Prior to twenty five,
he already had one OWI conviction. I don't know when
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it was. I didn't find it online, but the first
one I found was he was charged second offense. Often
that's because the first defense was out of state, or
it might have been municipal, meaning it didn't make a
court filing. But I don't know when it was, but
he had one prior to this year. Fast forward now
to February of this year. He was arrested and charged
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in Kenosha County with a multiple of offenses, including refusing
to take the breath test, not having insurance, improper lane etc.
And then ultimately with OWI second offense. Now again follow
my dates on this February so he was charged with
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numerous traffic offenses plus drunk driving second offense. In February,
the court Commissioner, William Michael released him on a signature bond.
Signature bond means you don't have to put up any cash.
You see your name. The lawyer who represented him in
this Kenosha County case in February was rather interesting to me,
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Mark Powers. Mark Powers is a local criminal defense attorney
who also serves as a municipal judge in several communities
in Waukeshaw County. I reported a couple of years ago
on Mark Powers. Mark Powers himself got a drunk driving
and according to he was arrested by a d n
R warden. They have arrest Powers. A d NR warden
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pulled him over for drunk driving and according to the
police report, he dropped the name of Waukeshaw County District
Attorney Sue Opper City. He was just with her grousing
complained to the warden et cetera. Initially, despite the fact
that his own lawyer claimed he was going to take
accountability for this initially pleaded not guilty. He eventually did
plead guilty. He remains a municipal judge in a number
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of Waukashaw County communities. In the meantime, he does drunk
driving defense work. Why do I bring this up because
this case from Kenosha in February. You know, second offense
drunk drive. A lot of drunk driving cases, they're very
hard to win if you're the defense attorney. They're resolved
rather quickly. The key here is this one's still open.
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He's still free on the signature bond. Now follow my
dates here. When did I say this was February. I'm
asking these questions because I know the absent minded, like
say you have forgotten this? Dates are critical. The second
offense Kenosha County, February is still open and unresolved. Fast
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forward to July. He cited for speeding on the freeway,
not the most important charge, but I mentioned that it happened.
Then fast forward again October twenty first Milwaukee County. This
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happened in the city of cuta Haey. He's arrested for
OWI drunk driving and cuta Hey. This is now third
offense and second of the year. The date now is
October twenty first, follow my dates please. He appears in
Milwaukee County Circuit Court in front of a court commissioner,
Barry Phillips. He sets cash bond at fifteen hundred dollars.
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One of the things that they do when they set
bond for someone is they use the term as conditions
of bond. Can't do this, can't do that, can't do
the other thing. So Barry Philip put fifteen hundred dollars
for him to spring himself on.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Third defense, drunk driving. And one of the conditions is
it's in all of these for drunk driving absolute sobriety.
And then other things though use controlled sounds and blah
blah blah and all of this other stuff. Don't drive
all these things absolute sobriety. Now, when did I say this?
Was like a pain in the aspect demanding these dates.
But you have to follow this. October twenty first, You
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did not remember that, did you? Before you said it?
I now I just said it to you. October twenty first,
So again, February twelfth was the first. Now October then
the speeding in the summer. Now third offense. October twenty first,
released from jail fifteen hundred dollars condition absolute sobriety. The
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incident in Muskego was October thirtieth, nine days later. Remember,
he not only got third offense on the twenty first,
a condition to the bail that got him sprung was
absolute sobriety. He not only doesn't maintain absolute sobriety, he
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gets about a drunk as a human being can get
point thirty six and drives to teach at a school
in Muskego, by the way in the video that they
picked up on, and that's how they realized that he
didn't get dropped off. They looked at the surveillance video
from the schools. I've seen staggering out of his own
car and stumbling twice. So clearly the fact that he
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showed up at a school drawing. None of the kids
were hurt or anything, but think of the people that
could have been injured on the road as somebody this
blasted out of his mind was driving from. And again
he has an address a distance from Askeigo where he
stayed overnight. I don't know when the questioning that he
was doing, I no, I haven't had anything to drink.
I only drank last night. Then he said, well, I
didn't sleep all night. I took a melotone on him.
You should hear this. It's just on and on the
guy's just a sad shape. But again, my focus is
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on everything else. So he's now got third offense. On
October twenty first, fifteen hundred dollars cash bond absolute sobriety
nine days later, blasted out of his mind, arrested again,
now charged with fourth offense. Fourth offense, fourth offense. Muskeigo
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is in Wakashaw County. I mean, on it. Sometimes I
think they'd some of these things just to drive me crazy.
There's several core commissioners in Wakashaw County who do you
think he lands in front of? Would you believe Paul
that he lands in front of David Herring? I mean,
I have spent more what would you call it in
podcast world bites, but plus his time. I want to
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come up with the technology talking about David Herring and
the low bail that he sets. Now this is fourth offense.
Remember now, what did I say about the case from
Kenosian February unresolved? Obviously the third offense of Milwaukee County
October twenty first, unresolved. He's free on bail on both
of those earlier. As I've explained, in any number of
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cases with regard to criminal behavior on anything, drug driving,
you know, assault and battery, no matter what the thing is,
the most dangerous time is when the person is going
to go to prison but their cases are still penning
because they're free on bail. Because they figure, well, I'm
free on bail. I know I'm going to go to
jail for this, or I know I'm going to go
to prison. I'm just gonna keep doing the thing that
I'm doing. This is the problem with low bail and
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the problem with the slow motion court system. So now
he goes in front of David Herring, the court commissioner.
He sets cash bail at ten thousand dollars, which the
guy has posted. He's out right now. This is a
time bomb. Remember all those earlier bail conditions. One of
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the charges he has right now in Waukeshak County is
bail jumping. He's charged with bail jumping for jumping bail
on the third offense of Milwaukee County. But rather than
revoking the bail for jumping, the bail they just charge
him with it and set another bail. I don't know
if somebody posted it for him or he posted it,
but he is out. Who's the villain here, clearly the
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guy who's he's got a problem as a villain. What's
the excuse of Kelly Services. What's the excuse of the
commissioner in Kenosha County? What's the excuse of his no
account lawyer powers for rather than trying to get this
guy that helped that he deserves doing everything he can
to drag out his cases. What's the excuse for David
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Herring and Waukeshaw County for not setting a proper bail.
This guy needs to be locked up to stop himself
from drinking. Not to mention that if ever there was
somebody who was advertising I am a dangerous threat. Fourth
offense usually means prison, at the very least long jail.
So he's staring at this hard to drink when you're
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in those places. He's given the fact that he's in
this situation where you see show it up. He's a terrible,
terrible risk to reoffend at a terrible level. By the way,
in the lengthy video that's out there, you see him
on the phone. It appeared to be his mother, and
you can hear his mother on the phone through the end.
She's telling you're going to lose your teaching lesson. She's
bawling him, O, I can't believe you went to school
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drunk and all of this stuff. I can sense her exasperation.
And that's why it related to my sharing the email
from the mother of the kid who turned out to
be all right and everything. Here's a case of a
mother's trying to get him. And you know, the guy's
drunk cases, he's screwed up, he's got a problem out there.
What's I'm saying? All of this is the case, and
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you and I probably know that. And this stuff with
regard to Harring and Waukeshaw County keeps going on and
nobody does a damn thing about it, and it doesn't
seem to matter how much time I spend. They should
have set bail at this guy at one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. We have passed the Constitutional Amendment in
the state of Wisconsin to allow protection of the public
to be a factor in the consideration of bail. And
when this guy's got all these other drunk driving cases
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that are sitting out there out there, and he then
shows up at a school this far over the limit.
The need to protect the public is absolutely overwhelming. So
I'm telling you who has the bigger problem, him or
the rest of us for not knowing how to handle
this rheus at least has an excuse he's a drunk.
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The sad thing is the people at Kelly, the people
at Musquego who hired Kelly, the court commissioner from Kenosha.
I can't really criticize the Milwaukee court commissioner because he
did up the addy on cash, bonded so on, and
set the conditions, and now that the case is in
walk A Shaw, I think Milwaukee needs to try to
forfeit the bail and grab him back in on that
given the fact that Waukershaw set the low veil for
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the fourth offense. All of this stuff, but there's all
sorts of problems in regard to the handling this from
everybody who's dealt with this guy. The only person who
seems to try to help is the mother who's on
the phone with him, but which, oh thank you, Paul,
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don't do it until end them with the podcast and
it's almost over. I do have linked up on my
ax formerly known as Twitter. Mark Bellings Show is my handle.
The video is linked up on a post that I
put there if you want to see the whole thing.
And I think that these videos, all these police videos
and so on, when people they hear about police instances,
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when you actually see the arrest and how suspects and
criminals are acting and so on, it's quite eye opening.
And these videos get lots and lots of views. And
it's not a matter of picking on this person, but
realizing when you see how intoxicated he is, what a
danger he actually is when he's out there and I'm
not standing at posts for holyffections. The who drug proving
is the most evil thing in the world. When you're
doing it this many times, make make not learning a
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lesson and then accelerating and getting this far over the limit,
and it's just that you're advertising. Somebody locked me up
and somebody protect the pump, and we sit around and
do nothing, sit around and do nothing. Scratch your butt
and do nothing. By the way, not one of these
people can use the government shutdown as an excuse for
not doing the job, because none of this had anything
to do with the federal government. It's basically just the
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whole thing is. That's my point of this, Paul. There
is almost no reason to think unless somebody in his
family has locked him up and put him into when
you sign somebody away against their will, very hard to,
by the way, do that. Yeah, it's very hard to.
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It's not incarceory institutionalize a person against their will. Late,
there's every reason to think, given the issues that he's having,
he's going to do it again. How do you think
this is going to add? He could have killed three
point three to six drive into a skigo. I have
to comment on this all right. I was in Florida
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the end. I came back late Saturday night. I booked.
I knew that there was a good chance that my
flights were going to be canceled. I found a late
flight light out of I normally plaut A fort Laudernale.
Found a late night flight out of Chicago on Saturday night.
It was a NonStop, but I felt that was the
least likely to get canceled because it's only one flight,
not the two end. It was a puddle jumper and
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buddle jumper that runs NonStop from Miami to Milwaukee, and
it only runs like a couple of days a week.
It's just I got on it and it was delayed,
but I got in and it was a good thing
because one of the flights that I booked for Sunday
was delayed for four hours, and the connection was delayed
for four I don't know who knows where I would
have been anyway. So I get back and I was operating,
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got no sleep yesterday, and I was barely able to
watch the football games. And because I got up early,
you know, Sunday morning, and after getting in, laid and
I saw the weather advisor come across on my phone,
winter Weather Advisor for lake effects. Now, so I didn't
And I remember last night I went to bed really early,
like nine thirty. I remember waking up hearing howling from
the from the winds and so on, but waking up
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for like fifteen seconds and falling back asleep. So then
I got up this morning. I got up really early,
earlier than I normally do, because I had two of
these kind of put together all this stuff that I
sent to Paul, the audio that we're playing, and I
look out the window at five pint fifteen and there's
nothing on the ground at all. So much for this,
And I find out Kenosha got nine inches of snow,
Northern Illinois got twelve, or Seeing got six and seven.
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Lake effects snow is so weird. So some people would say, well,
wether forecasters got that over on. Well, the thing of
it is they're forecasting for a region and some areas
got wamped with a blizzard and others just a few
miles away, and I live near on the lake got
absolutely nothing, and it was just the focal of the
lake effect. And lake effects snow will occur when you
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have wind blowing off the warmer water of the lake
hitting colder air on the land. And that's what we have.
The lake is still somewhat warm and the airs got
really really cold, and it blows that warmer air into
the cold that it creates its own separate weather system.
It's not a system coming in with storms all through
the thing. It creates it right over the lake. It's
usually on the air is down wind, like you know Michigan,
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the downside of Lake Superior, Buffalo and Cleveland and those places,
but occasionally get in Milwaukee, but it's a eastily when
not the lake and the way that the I guess
the thing was spinning around. It was kind of just
south of Milwaukee County, but Kenosha, Waukegan and so on
womped like absolutely. I put before I left to Florida
on Wednesday. I went in on Tuesday at the snow
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tires put on my car and they kind of looked, well,
this is kind of early to do that. Then I
saw this saying I'm gonna have the last laugh. And
in fact, when I was coming in Saturday night, it
was snowing in Milwaukee Saturday night and the roads were
glazed over ice to use. I was even And Paul
and I are both advocates of snow tires. I mean,
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they're very expensive. They're very very expensive, and I understand that,
but I just think it's the safest thing a person
could do when winter driving. And you just it's like
when you have shoes that have good traction on it
on the ice, as opposed to say a dress shoe.
It's the same kind of difference. You can feel it
with your hands on the wheel. And Paul and I
both I've been stressing Paul, you didn't believe it until
(01:09:04):
you until you did, and so on. Finally, now, Yoda,
you have enough money that you can justify doing it.
But I mean it's serious. I'm not exaggerating when I
say this, what's your life worth? I have total confidence
in any weather. I have an all wheel drive car,
you know, the snow tires on it and et cetera.
And finally this I was mentioning the problems with regard
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to a lot of the flights being canceled with the
air traffic controllers and so on. See Trump is so brilliant,
you know. And the government shutdowns not over. The filibus
is over. It's going to take a few days. And
there's lots of cancelations all over the place because some
of the air traffic controllers are not coming in. They're
all going to be paid. They have, however, a life
and death job. Trump proposed, and he's so right about this.
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He said he wants to give a ten thousand dollars
bonus to every air traffic controller who made all of
their shifts during the shutdown and dock the ones who
called head sick. I agree with that. This is not
a case of an employer going under, where you they
missed the payroll for three or four weeks, and you
wonder why somebody will keep coming in. Everybody knows the
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government's gonna make they make good on this. These jobs
are life and death type jobs. These aren't people that
are in parts of the government that are pushing paper around,
so forth and so on. I think that there's an
expectation to go ahead and do this. And here's the thing.
The overwhelming majority of them have showed up. I believe
only forty airports were affected. They were all the big ones,
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but about twelve percent of the flights were canceled yesterday
at those busy airports. Of those forty, and it's gonna
be hired. Well, that means the overwhelming majority are still going.
And I believe I couldn't tell, but it looked to
me like when I was leaving Miami Saturday night, they
had everybody on one runway because we're like zillion for takeoff,
and that was probably just the limited the number of
air traffic controllers got a great shot out of the
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people are so stupid when they take photos out of
the windows of an airplane. I got it, just a
great it's a little puddle jumper that are not stop
was I had great shot at the Miami Skyline taking off,
and after I did that, there was no Wi Fi
on the plane, so I couldn't fall oh quickly well,
the whole time we were sitting on the tarmac. The
good thing about it was I was able to watch
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the end of the Badger game on my phone that
this little thing in Wisconsin upset Washington end it was,
and it was up shortly after Wisconsin won the game
that we took off in. I didn't I never found
I can't sleep on plays. I never fell asleep, but
I was sort of zoned out. I did find. The
only WiFi that was working is the in flight that
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the airplane runs where they have their own videos pre
loaded in. There found a great Sopranos documentary that I want.
I know, I've seen everything related to the Sopranos that exist.
I was not aware of this. It was done by
HBO and it was released I think just a couple
of years ago. It's two parts. I want. The first
part was the only one before the flight landed in
That's what I remember. Yeah, this this was a really
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I don't even remember what the name of it was,
but it was in the in flight video. May you
for American Airlines and you could only watch it on
the phone. It's just a puddle jumper. There's no screen
in the plane or anything like that. This is the
Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast. I've
been mentioning this several times. The shoes keep dropping and
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this is a big one betting scandals that are going
to occur in major American sports now that sports betting
is proliferated and is legal almost everywhere. I mention and
I always have to explain because I know probably most
some of you just know this and many of you
don't know it at all. There are proposition bets now
when you go to a casino you can bet on
just about anything and how many rebounds will a guy
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get and so on. There's something also called live betting
in the States in which you can bet via app.
That would not be us in Wisconsin, but in many
states you can vet bet. You know, you got your
phone and bet via an app. You can bet in
a baseball game, for example, on the next pitch, not batter,
pitch the close for the Cleveland Guardians, Emmanuel plays the closer.
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This is a big time players. I think he was
an All star was on the take, and he cut
deals with gamblers to deliberately throw a ball on certain pitches.
That's real easy to conceal, you know, let's put and
it was always the first pitch of the at bats.
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So that was the tip waff and the federal indictment
of him. He's federally charged. They've got the video. You
should see some of this stuff. Some of these pitches
are like five feet outside the strike zone. There was
just no doubt. He wasn't going to take any chance
that the batter was going to swing, because if the
batter swings, the pitch is a strike and not a ball.
So we had to throw it so far that even
a stupid hitter wouldn't chase the pitch. Paul said, how
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much is he making? The story that I have here
from the Athletic dot com, which is part of the
New York Times. They found it on some of these bets,
some of these individual bets, there were as much, in fact,
to the indictment. Better's made more than four hundred thousand
dollars off of his alleged rig pitches. Now on some
of these, will the next pitch be a ball or
a strike? They have low limits the gambling sites have
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just to prevent anybody from wet inside knowledge of something
or another. So he had to do it a lot
of different times. Throw a ball here, throw a ball there,
et cetera. So the gamblers am making a fortune. And
his cut was just the four hundred thousand. So the
loss here for the gambling sites that were doing it
was massive. And the way it's often caught as the
gambling sites will start to flag why was there so
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much money on this? Secondly, there are informants. The thing
with when you when you're dealing with the mob, an
organized gamb was what you don't think they're going to
talk to save themselves. He recruited another pitcher for Cleveland,
or Teas, to do the same thing. Or Teas's number
was about sixty thousand dollars, so he made four hundred
thousand dollars. His salary was four point five million. He's
(01:14:54):
going to be likely go to prison, he's going to
be banned from baseball for life. You can say, well,
why did it? Just probably seems like such easy money.
How how is anybody going to catch it? The thing
that's going to continue to develop as a scandal in
sports betting isn't so much throwing games. It's going to
be these proposition bets. And I just think all the
gambling sites that operate this need to reconsider whether or
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not they're setting themselves up to be fleeced right and left. Because,
for example, in basketball, they'll have a prop on the
number of rebounds a player gets. Let's imagine it's five,
the over under is five? Really easy for a guy
who's got three rebounds not to get the fourth or
the fifth. And who would even notice the ball? You know,
he didn't reach for the ball, etc. This case, the
guy pitches a ball or a spiracle. Pitchers throw balls
(01:15:38):
all the time. How would you ever know? And I'm
not criticizing sports gambling one way or Another's legal hero
in Wisconsin how to do it a patdo, and the
Indian casinos and so on. Sports betting is figned. But
these proposition bets, as I say, they are a terrible
threat to the integrity of all of these sports. And
this is whether sports have to continue to insist upon
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the death penalty, in other words, banned from the sport
for life to anyone who does it, even the one time.
It's the only way to prevent it. With regard to
Wisconsin football program, Wisconsin announced earlier in the week that
Luke Fickle will come back as head football coach. I
think that's the right decision. Wisconsin football programs having a
terrible season, but it's a schizoy team. Wisconsin has one
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of the best defenses in the country. They held Oregon
the week prior to twenty one points, and Oregon has
as good an offense as you'll find anywhere, and the
defense was just awesome against Washington. Fikel has built an
incredible defense. The problem is the offense stinks, and he
hired a bad offensive coordinator in his first two years
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and it's taking time to rebuild the offense, get in
better recruits. The offensive line's a mess, and all of
his quarterbacks keep going down. He's now lost his first
spring quarterback in each of his first two years, and
now with Danny O'Neil going down Saturday, his first and
second string quarterback this year. But I think that they
recognize they have to fix the offense. But he's built
(01:17:04):
a world class defense, which is a pretty good starting point. Secondly,
with all these schools firing coaches and Wisconsin not having
donors that are willing to come up with a kind
of money to hire a great coach, to just start
over again, have everybody transfer out, including they've got two
freshmen on defense that they decided not to red shirt.
They insert in the middle of the season. There's two
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of them that are Mason Poso, who wears number eight.
He just freshman. He's only played a couple of games out.
He's as good a defensive player as I think is
in college football. He is right there, alright, He's a freshman.
I'm putting him right there already with the great linebackers
in Wisconsin history in Wisconsin is linebacker you both Watts,
several others over the years. He's just a phenomenal athlete
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and he they won the game almost single handedly because
of him. The fumble that I get to watch while
this is on my phone on the sitting on the turmac.
He forced the fumble on the five yard line, which
is the only reason Wisconsin scored a touchdown at all.
And then on the final driver, Washington was stymied. He
made a sack earlier and then on the fourth down
played the Quodawx scrambleak for first down and he tackled
him on that. So, I mean Fickles brought in these
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players that he has a good defensive system, and I
think understanding that in college football, when you fire the coach,
the whole team transfers. You start from scratch, and they're
not going to be able to hire to eat his contract.
I mean, the big problem Wisconsin he has is that
the donors will not come up with enough money to
pay for five star recruits. I mean, I am not
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close to this part of it. I know people who are.
They think the problem with Wisconsin might be in the administration,
with the athletic director Macintosh, and not necessarily the head coach.
I think Wisconsin's overall athletic department is very very good.
The basketball team's pretty good, the women's hockey team is
a dynasty, the women's volleyball team is very good. The
athletic directors in charge of all of that. It's not
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just the football. But I do think there is hope
that by next year Fickle will have an offense that's
much better, and if he can keep this defense at
the level that it's at, I think that they can
bounce back. Unfortunately, they're going to get killed this weekend
they play Indiana, which is Indiana might be the best
team of the country. They look like they were going
to finally lose a game on Sunday and guy made
(01:19:14):
like the best catch of the history of college football.
And they didn't. But Wisconsin did in beating the fans
even ran the field. I mean that shows you how
far Wisconsin's falling. The beating the number twenty four team
in the country causes you to run the field. But
it was just it was just a shot in the
arm for a beaten down program. And the other credit
to Fickle's whole staff is normally when the wheels fall
(01:19:34):
off on a team like that, the players quit. They
haven't quit. They're trying harder than ever. And they got
their win. And after they lose to Indiana next week,
they left chances in the final two weeks of the season.
And now this I'm going to tell you about a
football team that has scored two hundred and eighteen points
the last four weeks. That's a lot. Look at you,
(01:19:56):
and they're trying to do the math. Actually, the like
every late game lasts every not the night, not the
Sunday night game, but every one of the late three
o'clock games, the winning teams going over forty points. I
mean all three of the three o'clock game. And that
was enough that before I fell asleep and I was
able to pick up a note, River Falls, I'm killing you.
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The State University System Conference and so on, Paul, I
don't remember River Falls ever being good in anything. I
mean anything, not just the academics, sports anything. Their football
team is ranked number four in the country this year,
and I look this up because they beat my alma mater, Lacrosse,
which is a very good football team, that killed them.
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River Falls in the last four weeks has scored two
hundred and eighteen points, and they've played two or three
of the better teams in the conference. In that stretch.
They scored fifty two against Stevens point, seventy three against Eauclaire,
fifty two against Whitewater, and forty one against Lacrosse. It's
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not like they just hired a hot they've been They've
gotten good the last few years and this is the
strongest team ever. But two to eighteen points in the
last four weeks. That was river Falls at Paul. That's
see I wanted you do a two story podcast, but
there's just always too much and I have to We
got it all in today, Talk to you soon.
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There's a problem here and we're going to dive into it.
Marxists are trying to take over our country. They may succeed,
and while that's happening, the most influential conservative commentators are
arguing about each other. That's the problem. We're going to
(00:55):
dive into that in the first segment of today's program.
I had this plan over the weekend, and of course
it's a long weekend since the last podcast is on
Thursday and the first one is on Monday. I had
this plan over the weekend to devote the entire Monday
podcast Today's podcast to two stories. So had this joke. Unfortunately,
(01:17):
we're not going to do what I plan to do,
but I have this. I still have the joke in
my mind, and now I can't use the joke. And
you know how it is when I can't use a joke,
When something funny occurs to me, I feel the need
to tell the joke anyway, even if it doesn't apply,
because I mean, it's just otherwise it's flopping around in
my brain useless. So now I have to do it.
I was gonna say, this is a two story podcast.
(01:37):
Two stories. You have to walk up the steps to
get to the second one. It's a stupid joke. It's
amazing that it's amazing that I felt the need to
tell the joke when it's that stupid. I think I've
done pretty well though, telling stupid jokes and making and
getting amusement out of the fact that they were funny,
mostly because they were so stupid. Johnny Carson was pretty
(01:59):
good at that, was it. He He kind of like
bomb out and it was funnier to bomb out than anyway.
There are two huge stories that we're going to kind
of at least my podcast standards, do a deep dive into,
and some other stories that I want to cover. We're
going to open with the one that I just mentioned
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I'm going to tell you what's going on here, and
we're going to dive into it in some depth, and
then I'm going to give you my theory as to
(03:06):
why it's going on. For those of you who were
not listeners to my old radio show, I talked all
the time about you have to know the why. You
have to figure out the why to understand the what.
Here's the why. There has been over the last several
(03:30):
months a growing rift. Isn't the right word. War might
be the right word between some of the most important
conservative media voices kind of separate and outside of this
would be say Fox News, Newsmax, some of the others,
(03:51):
the voices that are kind of mostly on cable television,
but the other sphere of conservative commentators, primarily podcasters people
like me, but at the highest level of this, have
been engaging in open warfare. And as I said at
(04:13):
the beginning, you can't possibly miss the point any worse
than this. For the first time in my lifetime, and
I would say the first time seriously, I actually would
think the first time ever. The Red scare during the
McCarthy era, it was very unlikely that the Communists, the
(04:35):
people siding with Russia and so on, we're actually gonna
take over the country. They didn't. First time in my lifetime,
Marxism has taken hold and it is growing in popularity.
You take a look and you can say, no, all
New York is very liberal. True when you take a
look at the voting patterns of people under the age
(04:56):
of forty in New York, I mean, Mamdanni just killed.
When you take a look at the blowback from Democrats
across the country, furious with the handful of Democratic senators
who voted to end the filibuster last night, it's just
clear we have a Marxist movement that is not fringe anymore,
(05:20):
that it is mainstreaming. I think it is likely that
the Democratic candidate in twenty eight for president is going
to be a Marxist and we're going to have a
tremendous battle between capitalism, which now seems to be Mega
and Marxism. And while this is going on, the most
important voices in Mega slash capitalism slash conservatism are angrily
(05:43):
attacking one another. Now, before I dive into this, there
are going to be some people say, who are you
to criticize this? Aren't you always criticizing the Wisconsin Republican Party. Yes,
I'm going to explain why there's a difference here. The
(06:06):
Wisconsin Republican Party keeps losing elections and the leadership is
screwed up. The same is not true with what's going
on in the conservative movement in America. We just won
the presidency of the United States with a candidate overcoming
(06:26):
more thrown at him than maybe any figure in American
history other than those that were outright assassinated. The House
and the Senator Republican. There is Republican governors all over
the country. So there isn't the level of failure that
(06:49):
I'm seeing that requires structural change here in the state
of Wisconsin. So that's my backdrop. Some of the venom
seems to be coming from two to three really prominent
voices on the right. In the cases of a couple
of them, they are accused of going off the rails.
The third one has been off the rails the whole time.
(07:15):
They have a lot that they agree with in common,
but as often happens here, the things that they disagree
about are creating visceral animosity and it is an enormous problem.
The way that I'm going to dive into and illustrate
this is through I think she called it Kelly Festa whatever.
(07:40):
Megan Kelly had a two day event in which she
invited a number of prominent conservative figures to come on
the stage and do interviews with her, which she then
put onto her podcast. But she did it in front
of an audience. I think all the big ones are there,
Tucker Carlson, Shapiro, Michael Knowles, etc. And it was one
on one and so on, and she spent a fair
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amount of time discussing with the both of them why
they're all beating up on one another. There are two
separate cases here, but all of this is related. The
first one is Candae Owans. No again, I'm going to
get to the why I think all of this is
going on at the end, so bear with me. Candace
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Owens is a remarkably talented personality. She has an extremely
popular podcast. She emerged from really obscurity ten years ago
to being a giant. But in the process of going
from obscurity to a giant. She's really stamped on the
people that gave her a leg up on the way up,
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and she seems to be in fact stomping on everyone,
and some people believe that she's wandered off into Weirdoville.
The thing about this is that it is impossible to
say Candace is right Candace is wrong. It's way more
nuanced than that. For example, she's done this expose on
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the wife of the French leader Macron, Brigitte Macron, and
as a very compelling case that mcron's wife is actually
mccrone's natural father who's had a sex change operation and
then would his own child once he became she It
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is bizarre, but the case that she makes is compelling, persuasive,
and believable. I don't know if it's true, but it
is believable. So I'm not talking about that. I'm talking
about some of the other positions that she's taken, some
of which seem to be, if not openly anti semitic,
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borderline and in the process attacking conservative allies. Leading up
to the most latest incident in which she seems to
be trying to take down all of Turning Point USA,
which is I think the most important conservative organization to
develop it in my lifetime. This was discussed at this
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weekend Megan Kelly event last week Megan Kelly event. And
Megan's talking here with Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's another podcaster,
and he's been very critical of Candice Owen's. Meghan's role
in all of this just seems to be she's trying
to be the peacemaker. She's trying to do what I'm
kind of advocating here, the people that need to understand
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that you need to aim your criticism at the Marxists
that are trying to take over this country, the people
that have abused the government and weaponized the government against conservatives,
including etc. So that's her role. And she's talking to
Ben Shapiro here. And this is a rather brief segments
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fifty seconds or so in which the subject of Candace
Owans comes up. Let's listen to it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I think that what Candie Owns is doing right now
is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay,
and I say that again, but what because like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't know pine on whether it's evil or not.
But my position is it's really none of my business,
and why is it?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I have a question, why is it none of
your business? I mean, you comment on these things for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not mother of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, But if this were on the left and somebody
were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him,
I assume that you would be talking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of Yes of
murdering her own husband.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing,
including Seth Dyllan, of being involved in the murder of
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, all right, that summary by Shapiro is essentially accurate.
There's a backstory here. Candace Owen's at one point almost
the partner of Charlie Kirk. In turning point, there was
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a falling out. She also had a falling out years
earlier with Ben Shapiro, who you just heard there. And
as I say, some of the critics of Candace point
out that the people that gave her her breaks to
begin with and gave her platforms are the ones that
she's stomped on the hardest. There was a falling out
with her and turning Point, and as I say, there
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tends to be falling out with Candace in just about
everybody that she's ever dealt with. All Right, Charlie Kirk
has assassinated. There are many people who are wondering how
this could happen, and some people have taken the look
at videos and look at this, look at that, look
at the other thing, and so on. Cannas has taken
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it a step further in which she's on her podcast
essentially accused the leadership of Turning Point of being involved
in the killing of Charlie Kirk and setting all of
this up. And her strong implication is is that Erica
Kirk was the ringleader of this so she could take
over Turning Point USA. So Kenneth is saying this, I
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think she's out of her mind or has become demagogic
on that issue. There is no proof of anything that
she says. On the other hand, there is an intense
FBI investigation and determine whether or not the weirdo who
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was in love with a trans roommate and trying to
impress the trans roommate did he act on his own
or was there other assistance and so on, without regard
to what happened there. Candace Owens is being deliberately provocative
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and basically as trying to bring down all of Turning Point,
which in the wake of Charlie's death, we don't know
if it's going to survive or not, but if it happens,
it would be devastating to the conservative movement. That's the
first one. Now, with regard to Candace, a lot of
people on the right who are in love with her
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have written her off. This isn't a new thing, which
Shapiro said here. There are a lot of people who
think that Candace is gone half looney. Over the last
two to three years, I've considered her to be eclectic,
and I think that she's been trying to create her
own unique lane in Conservatism. That's before this lump everybody
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involved a Turning Point together and all of them, never
mind if maybe one security person was in on something,
or I lump everybody in on killing Charlie Kirk. The
second area is perhaps more important, and it has to
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do with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson has changed since he's
left Fox. It may be that he's changed since he's
left Fox because there are a lot of things that
he wanted to dive into that. He knew that he
couldn't run Fox, and that he was liberated once Fox
got rid of him, and he's moved into his own empire,
which is certainly the reach of Tucker Carlson. Now it's
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I don't even know how many times greater. But when
he was limited to Fox, there's a narrow universe of
people watching cable TV and following them on the web
that we're able to see it as opposed to the
empire that he's created now, in which his views are many, many,
many times he's way bigger. One of the areas of
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disagreement that Tucker has and Tucker's, you know, was he
was in Trump's inner circle, and I don't even know
if he supports Trump anymore. It's it's, you know, Trump
has t talked, called him former supporter. And so it's
started as the rift over a single issue, which is
American support of Israel, which is certainly an important issue,
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but I don't think most American conservatives think it's the
most important issue facing us right now. The marx has
taken over the Democratic Party and may take over the country,
for heaven's sakes, it's a bigger issue. I think these relationship,
but it started with that. Now Shapiro is Jewish, he
hasn't liked a lot of the things that Carlson did,
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and one of the things that he's going to launch
into here in Paul. I think we can stop this
as we plan it through. I'm going to analyze this
as you heard. It's an extended thing in which Shapiro
defends He's been pounding on Carlson. Ben Shapiro's been pounding
on Tucker Carlson, and Tucker Carlson's been pounding on Ben
Shapiro and who started It is almost beyond the point
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other than that they are going after one another, and
it's moved well beyond the issue of Israel to the
point that Shapiro is suggesting that Carlson is just endorsing
desk spots Carlson hand on Tucker. Carlson had on his
program a guy named Matt Fuentes is increasingly would you say,
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Nick Foyd, you're right, Thank you for the correction, Nick Fes.
Nick Fuenes has gotten to be very very big. He
is to the far far, far right. He's spoken very
positively of Hitler. He was on Tucker Carlson's podcast. Now Megan,
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who's trying to be the peacemaker with everybody here. She
likes Tucker Carlson, she likes Ben Shapiro. She's not been
spending any time criticizing anyone on the right. She's rightly focusing,
as I've tried to do, focus the real problem, which
is the left of media, et cetera. And they go
into this back and forth in which Shapiro says it
is essential to call all Carlson for some of the
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things that he's doing, and he's now accusing him of
sucking up to Nick Fuentes by throwing him softballs and
sloppy wet kisses. I don't want to give the whole
thing away. Megan is taking the opposite approach. She thinks
that the use of the softballs was Tucker's attempt to
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take down Nick Fouentes, not give him a platform. But
in this discussion that goes on for a few minutes here,
the whole thing about this battle on the right kind
of comes out. So let's listen to a portion of it.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The way I waited to attack Tucker until he glossed
Nick Fuentes, who is that has nothing to do with
his room. Nickquinez hates Ju.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm not saying he didn't have a right to go
after him.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean I think you you did.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
We know it was right and you felt and he
mentioned a few times in his interview with he did.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But again I don't think it's about that, because if
he had not mentioned me in that interview with Nick
fines As, I still would have said something about it,
because again, glossing people who are white supremacists is bad electorally.
On a pragmatic level, a right wing that embraces its
own fringes will end up in the same position as
a left wing that has embraced So that's.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Why I want to get into it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It embraces Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
So now, having spoken to Tucker, I actually see that
interview very differently. And I did listen to the interview,
and I knew what Nick found says was and I
think he did show himself to be who he is.
It wasn't his most vile stuff, but you got the
feel for what this guy was. But I really think
Tucker was talking to him Ben to put like a
bumper on this guy, because what Tucker was urging him
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the whole time was to understand that collective punishment for
any one group of people is wrong. It's deeply immoral,
and it's anti Christian, which this guy is supposed to be,
and reminding him of how deeply immoral that is, that
you should not be looking at a group of people
whomever it is. The Left does it to everyone, whites mostly,
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but like this collective shame white men in particular, and
there's a group of people like Nick Funt does, that
does it to groups of Jews. And he was making
the case throughout the whole interview in the way that
Tucker does. He's not like you or me. He's not
like pointed in cross examining.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not true and was making fundamentally untrue. No, no, no, Senator
Ted Cruz.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Whether that is he gave it to Ted Cruz because
Ted Cruz is a politician.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's oh yeah, hold on.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So only politicians get cross examined, you don't, Well, it
depends on the person, Tucker. Tucker would never cross examine
a person who is not a politician.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's his rule.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Hawker has excoriated public figures who purport to speak for
us and represent us for many years. Nick Funt does
is a podcaster civilian.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, I just have a question. We all in our
industry are constantly excoriating people who are in our industry.
It happens all the time, every single day.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, Okay, get interview.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But again we can agree to disagree on your interpretation
of what Tucker was doing there. I think everybody should
watch and determine for themselves what they think Tucker was
doing in that interview. And I urge you to watch
it back to back with the Ted Cruz interview to
determine whether you think that that was an aggressive Tucker
Carlson interview, and you can judge that I.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Didn't say it.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I didn't say it was aggressive.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't think he would say it was aggressive. And
I think his.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Point was this guy, first of all, he's become a behemoth. Sadly,
he's got five million viewers on Rumble, he's got a
million followers on X.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
This is all before Tucker Carlson and he was platformed
to hate that verb. But he was platformed by Patrick
Beth David, and he went on Dave Smith Show, and
he went on another big show. He's been getting more
and more purchase in the political ecosphere, including right wing,
and I think that's Patrick Beck. David has a huge shoke.
I know, But Patrick, did you know that Patrick Beck
David had him on?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Did his life blow up?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Patrick Beck David did a significantly more aggressive interview with
Nick Fuentez than Tucker did.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Okay, but my point is simply he's growing, He's growing
in stature, and so what I saw Tucker do was
not whitewash his ideas, but try to put bumpers up
on the guy. I know Tucker well, and I think
that was his approach and the way, the way if
you want to put a bumper up on Nick Fuentes,
is it helpful to say you're fucking vile, you're an
anti semi No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, that doesn't put up Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You know it isn't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That makes the audience feel good because you have hand
to hand combat, but it doesn't help change that guy's
view or his extreme, his extremeness at all.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, I'll tell you what doesn't change Nick Flent's his view.
Tucker Carlson was his arm around Nick Flents grinning for
the camera. Well, Nick Fuentz has tweets out America first
and then triumphantly goes on the air the next day
to explain that he has essentially used Tucker Carlson as
a vehicle for manipulating other people. Okay, so what Nick
Fuentes is saying, not me, Nick Fuentes, Okay, and Nick
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flent And by the way, I will again say that,
Tucker Carlson, when you say to somebody in an interview,
do you condemn anti Semitism? And then the person says sure,
which is what Nick fin has said, he said, I'm
not an anti simon, which is blatantly untrue. A responsible,
a responsible journalist would then follow up demonstrating that that
is false. Tucker did not do that. He allowed him
to get away with that, and then he allowed him
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to talk about quote unquote organized a jeury followed by
Nick Flentes being treated to a disquisition by Tucker Carlson
about why Christian Zionists, of all human beings on earth,
are the people that he hates the most.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
He took that back. You can't take that back. How
do you take that back? He did have. He went,
he should explain why it was wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You should explain how Christian Zionists are actually wonderful people.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Talker is very quick to self flagelate. And he went
on with Dave Smith the next day, the next week whatever, Monday, tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They stopped the tape a second. Now they're getting into
For people who didn't hear any of this, I don't
want you to lose the context. Tucker Carlson, during this
whole back and forth, in his criticism of Israel and
so on, made this comment that Christian Zionists, in other words,
Christians who believe that Israel has a right to exist
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are the worst people in the world, which that includes
probably most conservatives. Most conservatives thinks Israel right to consist,
and many Conservatives are Christian. And the point that Megan
Kelly is making is Tucker took that back and knew
that it was an asinine thing to say. He said
it and then took it back. And Shapiro is just
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challenging all of this. Throw the thing out there, and
then try to pull it back after the whole thing landed.
By the way, for those of you that are wondering
about just about every podcast through out there uses vulgarity
other than me, I made the decision we're not censoring
any of this out because I don't want to launder
or sanitize anything that either Shapiro or Kelly or anybody
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else in this thing is saying. So we're going to
play this exactly as they played it, and exactly is
their thing was put out there. But this is the
back and forth here, and you can see that Shapiro
was making the point that Tucker Carlson has now gone
so far in this anti Israel thing to excoriate every
American conservative at an every Christian who disagrees with him
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on the one issue. And Shapiro is saying this is intolerable.
And Megan Kelly, who clearly does not agree with Carlson
on this but likes Tucker and is his friend, is
trying to suggest that this is not something that should
disqualify Tucker from being part of the conservative movement. And
so on. No, it goes on and said that was stupid.
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I didn't mean that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
He said, I'm angry at people like Lindsay Graham. I'm
angry at people like Ted Cruz because he thinks they
run headfirst in these conflicts and they don't think about
what's going to happen to America.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Call up if we're talking about firing inside the tent?
What everything Lindsay Graham okay? And I'm not a huge
Lindsay Graham fan. He votes with the President of the
United States one hundred percent of the time, and Tucker
spent yesterday's show excoriating him as a psychosexual death worshiper.
Does that sound like firing outside the tent?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Again? Not offended?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Again the questions that I'm asking here, I'm not asking
you to do anything, Megan. I know our beef is
not with each I'm not okay when I draw a
line with regards to what I believe Tucker Carlson is
doing to the conservative movement and what he is fomenting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That is because that is.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And everyone can make their own decision as to whether
they think that I am right or whether I'm wrong,
and where they choose to draw the line with regard
to the conservative movement. The question for me is always
whether somebody's statements are forwarding moral values that I think
are worthwhile. I did not get into this business for
the money or for the clicks.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You didn't neither.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Why did he was that?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Neither did he?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean he may not have That's fine. I certainly
did not. I'm only going to speak for myself, and
what that means for me is that if I see
somebody breach basic moral values by having on a Nazi
and in my own view, you can take your own view.
In my own view, Gloss the Nazi, then I'm going
to speak out about that, and I'm going to point
out that there is a long pattern of him ideologically
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laundering terrible ideas over the course of the last two years,
ranging from traveling to Russia to sniff the bread and
explain why the Russian regime is actually wonderful, two saying
last week that the Venezuelan regime of Nicholas Maduro is
actually not that bad because they're being attacked by, in
his words, globo homo. Tucker's made the point.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm not going to hear it be Tucker's defender, but
he's made the point that Maduro is culturally conservative.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Who gives us shit? The guy's a communist dictator. Everyone
in his country's eating dog. He's shipping Fentanel to the
United States to kill Americans. Why don't give us shit
Whether he's whether he's anti LGBTQ, right, this is the
number one thing about Nicolas Manduro. You know, farm down
the list you have to get before you can get
to anything remotely recommendable about Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
All right, they got into at the end. Maduro, for
those of you not aware, is the dictator of Venezuela,
and Tucker Carlson has been somewhat sympathetic forward him. Now
a couple of points of this. I've had a theory
that I've expressed for thirty six years here start dating
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back to the old radio show, that the political spectrum
is not aligned words when you go to the far
far far far far left like Mamdani and maybe even
a little bit beyond him far left, aoc Jasmin Procket
fire left, and then you go to the far far
far far far far right, so the Proud Boys or
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not Nazis nick Fundes would be in there. That they're
not at the ends of a line that is a
circle that if you go far enough left or far
enough right, you bang into one another. I've contended that forever.
You've heard me contend that, and I think this is
proof of this. Now my own view, just in analyzing
Tucker is is that I think that Tucker is I'm
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not supportive but somewhat sympathetic of this democratic socialist movement,
the Marxist movement. I didn't say supportive, somewhat apathetic because
they share the same kind of disgust for rich elites,
billionaires and so on. Tucker has said, for example, that
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it's unfair to say that Mamdanni is anti Semitic. Well,
you know, Shapiro will go on a great length to
put on all the things that he said on that. Well,
why is Tucker spending any time saying all these good
things with regard to Mamdani. I think that you see
in the case of Tucker that he has moved far
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enough away from some conservative beliefs in his general loathing
of elitist and I loathe elitis myself, that he's moving
over in which he sort of banging in to that
side of this. And I think you will find if
you looked at the voting in New York that a
lot of people who voted for Trump voted for Mandanni,
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that they were both weirdly anti establishment type votes. The
problem is there's tremendous ideological difference between the two of them. Marxism, socialism, communism.
All we fail and always lead to terrible repression and oppression,
whereas capitalism and true democracy always lead to prosperity and
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innovation and a higher quality of life and greater morality
and more freedom. The fact that there is a common
element of the two of opposing elitism doesn't change the
fact that ideologically there's a difference. Secondly, now I hinted
at this from the beginning that I was going to
explain why all of this is going on. There are
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a number of conservative voices that are trying to kind
of be middlemen and realize who the real opponent is.
I think I'm in one of them, Megan Chillies and
one of them, Patrick Batt, David was mentioned, quite a
few others, just a lot of them. Ruben and I
would then throw in most of the people that are
say on Fox and even on Newsmax and so on.
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But there are some of these others that have gotten
to be huge in the podcast world that are now
looking for areas to attack one another. I am convinced
I have this figured out. Before podcasting started, there was
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one giant voice in the conservative movement, and that was Rush.
Rush was bigger than everybody, in part because prior to podcasts,
there was really some of the talk shows on cable
and conservative radio. There was nothing else. And even in
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Megan's Kelly Fest, the thing that she had there was
a lengthy video about Rush and how almost everyone in
the conservative movement can praise their growth to at some
point or another, having been influenced by Rush. So Rush
was the undenied, most influential and powerful conservative voice of
someone not in the government, in other words, an outsider commenting.
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But now in the podcastville, who's the biggest star? Wide open?
Is it it? I think that there's a lot of
rivalry here. Charlie Kirk was clearly ascending, and I think
that a couple of people who fell out of the
orbit of Charlie Kirk resented that was Candace. One of them.
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Candace came up in the Daily Caller Empire, which Shapiro
was connected to. They had a falling out. There are
all of these people where I just think that there's this,
even if it's not conscious, this desire to separate from
one another instance to who's the big dog? And right
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the right wing blog a sphere, podcast, sphere, whatever you
want to call it, and it's leading to these attacks
in which the larger purpose of the things that you
believe in become I think secondary now every one of
these issues that's back and forth. I think that in
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some cases Shapiro is way too critical of everyone who
doesn't share his view on Israel, and I think Shapiro
is too quick to criticize other Conservatives. I also think
the Tucker's doing a lot of things that are fringe.
I think Candice is doing a fair number of things
that are fringe. But I think on the overall, both
of them are extremely important and extremely talented. Just as
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with regard to me, I don't think it's anybody listening
to my podcast. He doesn't disagree with me on a
handful of things. It's the larger thing to understand, especially
after what we've been through for the last not four
but eight nine years, where the entire government was used
to bring down Trump spying Conservatives smash us down, and
they can't stand the fact that Trump won and got
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it back. They want to once and for all take
this away and stomp us out for wrever and turn
us into a Marxist nation too. In the realm of this,
have our most important figures fighting over what should be
fourth or fifth or sixth tier issues. The whole issue
of Israel, I think is resolving itself. I think Trump
is bringing peace to the Middle East. I think that
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Israel is going to be defanged now that Hamas is defanged.
I think that Trump allowing Israel to take out the
Iran nukes has eliminated their ran problem for a while.
And Trump's not going to try to cut deals in
which every one of these nations gets along with us
and therefore with one another, to end up just eviscerating
and attacking and tearing everybody's eyeballs out over this is
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certainly not a productive thing to do. But I understand,
as I say, why it's going on. There's just an
I know what it is. You know, there were a year,
for example, before Charlie Sykes wandered completely into Looneyville. I
mean before that, back when Charlie was a mainstream conservative
just as I was. We have both had huge shows
here right Well, it's a rivalry. He worked for a
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different company. I don't. Ever, when I was at WISN
and I'm still affiliated with iHeart obviously, and I knew
my show from the WIS and stews, I never had
a rival where Jay or Dan or anybody, because we
worked for the same company. We're all on the same thing.
A lot of people listen to Jabel, then they're around
to listen to my show Vice Versa, and said Charlie
was onto the station. So from time to time we
would disagree, and I would say things that I disagree with,
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But I don't think I never despised him, wanted to
take him down and destroy his career, because until he
went nuts on the whole issue of Trump, it wasn't
my position he was wrong or terrible or responsible or
any of those things. I still don't even think that.
I just think he's lost his marbles. I don't think
Charlie sticks a bad guy. I know. I just just
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say I just think he's lost his marbles. But I'm not.
But way before that, I was never in this who's
the number one? Who's the top dog? Because I thought
it was fairly clear I was the number one, which
I was. I think you could talk about that by
any number of things, whether I was or I wasn't.
But I just think that there's a lot of this,
especially given that some of these people are young, and
there's legacy building and all of that stuff. You see
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that some of the more peacemaker oriented in this wing,
like Megan's older than the others of them, and then
there's a guy like me, and oh fine, I just,
for heaven's sakes, take a look at what's going on
right now when understand that none of this is helping
anything other than you're letting your own egos and get
in Alan. I think it's self destructive for all of them. Right,
Paul agrees with me. Well, that's all I need. If
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I only get you to agree with me, then my
life is made. Paul supports me on this, What were
you gonna say? Yes, the Democrats are employed to I mean,
everybody seems to be imploding with Then let's move to
a couple of other stories here in this segment. Then
I'm gonna move on to another big story that I
have to date quickly. A number of Democrats joined Republicans
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overnight to vote to end the filibuster. This does not
end the government shutdown the filibuster. You couldn't vote. A
filibuster is in the Senate. It requires sixty votes to
end debate. They voted to end debate, so now they
still have to pass the bills, and they're sending a
bill back to the House. This could still fall apart,
but I don't think that it will. But we'll take
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several days now to pass the legislation. But the prolonging
of the debate, that part ended when a number of
Democrats just either gave up or said screw it. We're
not accomplishing anything here. Trump is not going to cave
in on all of these demands that we are going
to have. We're going to pass a funding billt and
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for doing this the Democrat. Yet there's just the eight
Democrat I think it was eight, whatever the number was,
the voter joined with the Republicans to end the debate.
They're just being attacked by the left with the level
of rage and hatred that's off the charts. The most
interesting one to me is that durban was one of
them that voted to do it. I as you know,
I know Dick Durbin. We sat next to each other
at ET. How many times have I putted that out, Paul?
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You're going to finally, you finally are going to remember
that now, aren't you. I mentioned it constantly. You always
forget it, but I mentioned it constantly. I know why
Dick Derbin voted to do it. You know why Dick
Derban voted to do it. He's not running for reelection.
I think that they are all bulls like him that
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are sick at what's happened to the Democratic Party, but
that he, in order for survival, let it go along
with all of it. And now he's finally breaking ranks
here figuring, well, I'm not my career is over. Dick
is about one hundred and ninety two years old. I
got no future readyway, et cetera. Anyway, the level of
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hatred and animosity directed at them is stunning. And here's
the thing about this. At some point it had to end.
We can't have the government not funded forever, which is
why it was so stupid for the Democrats to start
this whole thing in the first place. Secondly, Trump, if
the Democrats regained control of one or both houses of Congress,
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he's gonna have to cut deals with them all the time.
He doesn't have to do what now. He's not going
to cave into them now and give away the farm
just because they won't end the debate. Another quick story,
just another example of people who have killed themselves by
their Trump derangement syndrome. This one's quite interesting. The BBC.
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You know what the BBC is, don't you? That is correct,
the British Broadcasting Corporation. That is telling Before the twenty
twenty four election, in other words, about a month before
Trump ran against Kamala, the BBC did a report on
what it was that Trump actually said on January sixth
of twenty one. You know, the Democrats tried to take
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down Trump and twenty four through this supposed anarchy that
he was bringing in January sixth, which of course I
contend is a load of crap. Trump contends a load
of crap. So the BBC now understand the BBC's audience
is not mean. Not many Americans follow the Some do,
but it's not like they swing the American election. It's
primarily for a British and international audience. The BBC edited
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Trump's comments on January sixth to make it They took
out sentences to make it appeer in which as though
he was urging people to store in the Capitol, when
in fact, of course he said don't do anything violent.
They edited out to make it look like Trump's The
top two executives of the BBC were forced to resign
for the British government. The BBC is part of the government.
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Resign over the weekend. The top two people in the
BBC lost their jobs because an investigation was conducted and
it was determined that they deliberately did this editing. So
they ruined their careers over and a something in which
they don't They weren't going to change any American minds anyway.
It was the BBC. How much do you have to
hate Trump to destroy your own career, destroy all these
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ethics for something that, even if it had worked, would
not have done any good. Because it's the BBC. It's
time to take a break on the markpelling podcast. This
is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're going to get into
in a moment here another big story that requires kind
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of a deep dive in the fashion that we did
in segment number one. But before I do that, you know,
I get these things all the time for people, you're
the greatest podcast, you're the greatest talk show host, You've
changed my life, etc. They come in quite a bit,
and I understand why it is, particularly here in Milwaukee.
When I started out, there was not any conservative voice anywhere,
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and my audience became very, very large, and it had
a large impact on a lot of people. I've shared
adults who said that, you know, I was once a
liberal change, et cetera. This is an interesting one, and
I'm bringing it up because in a way it relates
a bit at least to the story that we're going
to get into. I'm going to not include anyone's name here. Mark.
This thank you is perhaps a long time coming. During
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my children's young years, we listened to all the various
programs on WIS and eleven thirty regularly, especially when driving.
My youngest, a bit of a rascal, latched onto your influence,
along with positive influence from his grandfather, my father. When
we moved him from one grade school to eighth grade
into another due to dysfunction in the junior high, my
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father was often the one to drive him and have
some solid life value chats with him. In addition to this,
later in high school, I discovered this young kid falling
asleep with earbuds in, and when glancing at his phone,
I had to chuckle that he was listening to your
podcast for hours into the night, not even sure I
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knew you had podcasts at the time. In other words,
she's referring to we took our old radio show and
turned it into a podcast. It wasn't really a podcast,
which just a way of listening to the radio show
without having to listen live between three and six. And
she's pointing out that this young man in high school
was listening to my old radio shows via podcast in
the middle of the night, and that's why he was
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getting so tired. Continuing, although yes, we were a united
conservative family having active conversations with our three children, I
am thrilled that all three are still conservative to this day.
All I know in the mid to upper twenties and
early thirties, my daughter went to a conservative Christian liberal
arts college, my middle son went to a tech school,
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and the youngest son went to a liberal state school.
And I believe because of your additional influence in his
developmental period, he actively sought out the Young Republicans group
at his university and stayed connected. Just thought you would
enjoy knowing. I believe your additional impact on particularly my
younger kid, who could have been painted by the university,
is on solid ground. Other conservative friends whose children went
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to universities have not been so fortunate. Then mentions a
couple of things about what they're doing with their careers
and signs it. Now, let's dive into a story here.
This story. I should mention that the Thursday podcast last
week we recorded on Wednesday. I had to I don't
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had is a strong word. I had a strong need,
not quite close they had. I had to go to
Florida for a few days and I got back. The
whole plain thing required numerous audibles, but we did the podcast.
So I was gone for three or four days, and
several stories broke during the period that I was gone,
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and one of them that's become a huge thanks to YouTube,
A huge story nationally is this story of the substitute
teacher at an elementary school in Muskigo who showed up
to school unbelievably drunk. I'm guessing most of you know
about the I was not here, Paul. Were you aware
the story before I gave you all this material? Yeah,
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so I know that some of you, especially nationally, may
not be fully aware of it. So I'll give you
the quick background of this and then dive into the story.
The story, as reported is that a substitute teacher showed
up at an elementary school in Muskego, and the staff
could tell that he was intoxicated, so they called the police.
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Upon investigation, initially claimed that he was driven to the school,
but upon investigation they drunk tested him and so on,
and it turned out that his BAC blood alcohol content
was zero point three six. For those of you who
don't know anyone drinking of those numbers, that's unbelievably high.
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I know the general rule that he you know, the
bigger you are, the more it affects the numbers. Like
a frail, thin young woman is going to have a
greater impact than the alcohol than some big, fat guy.
The rule is sort of like one drink takes your
point oh two to another one point oh four and
so on, and you lose point oh two an hour.
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That can vary widely depending on the strength of the
alcohol and your body weight and so on. In addition,
there's other things that effect affect your impairment. Are you
using with any medications and so on, But that's a
general I know that I personally can never get to
a point three six. I would not I'd get sick,
fall asleep, pass out long before that. Thankfully, point three six.
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It's that's four and a half times the legal limit
for driving and he shows up to teach school. It
was his fourth offense. Ow I now everybody's reacting to
the first part of the story, but my analysis here
has to do with a different component. But to give
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you a feel for the level of intoxication of the guy.
And his name is Christopher rees Rias. He's had various addresses.
He's moved around it. As I've checked his court file,
he's had different addresses, not surprising for guys going through
a lot of trouble. He's got an address in Jefferson
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County right now. He was assigned as a sub at Muskigo.
The police body cam has been picked up by one
of the sites that's on YouTube that does crime reporting
and police videos and so on. Some of these sites
are huge. This one's Law and Order Network. The number
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of hits it's had on YouTube is in the hundreds
and hundreds of thousands. I don't even know what it
is right now. The last I checked, it was over
four hundred thousand. And they did the bodycam of the
whole thing, and it's like fifty five minutes long. I'll
tell you, Paul, remind me at the end of the
segment to tell people how they can find it. We're
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going to play a portion of this toward the end
now as the setup to this. Initially, the police recalled
to the school by the staff, good for them, and
they were questioning him, and you see the body cam
of the whole thing, and his initial story was is
that he was dropped off of the school, and he
goes on and on and on about the wars that
he has in his life, and he's being extremely open
about everything, and he's slurring a speech like a nut.
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I mean, you could just see how intoxicated he was,
and he's going through all of these things, etc. It
was not until later on in the explanation that they
realized that his story about being dropped off was not true,
meaning now they have an investigation for drunk driving, because
if he was driving it in this condition, say just
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showing up drunk, he's not in and of itself a crime,
even though you shouldn't be drunk on a teacher, but
if he was driving at this it was a new thing.
So for this reason they now are taking him to
do a blood draw. The law in the state of
Wisconsin is is that you can refuse to blow into
the breathalyzer. However, you can get a quote order on
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him to do a blood draw. Also, you can voluntarily
do the breathalyzer. He did eventually do the breathalyzer, and
that's where it came back at the zero point threety six.
And you're going to pick this up. Now. He's back
at the facility with the police officer and they're explaining
they're going to the rigamar role of reading that if
you refuse to take the breath test, et cetera. And
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it's going to be hard to pick up on what
he's saying, but you can just see that the guy
is in total dysfunction from his dependence on alcohol, in
which he's focused mostly on why, you know, what do
you have to mean to be so? Well? Listen to
just this brief portrait of it, which gives you a
sense of how bad off he was.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yes? Why?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Why why are we yes or no?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Why are we becoming so mean?
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I'm not trying to be mean, man, I'm trying to
speak this posss I would get you from pointing to
point me as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm just so all I knew was so distressing and
yelled at me, well, because I was.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He wanted you to pay attention to what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I'm not if you're giving me the fourth one, I
already have heard the third, four second, first one.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Will you submit to an evidence try chemical test of
your blood?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
However, I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for it.
Do I have to pay for it? Sixteen didn't burn
not off pus? Okay, I mean now he's worried about
do we have to pay for the test? I just
so A number of things have come out. What I
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clearly we see what the problem for this he's thirty
years old. What the problem for this guy is. He's
got a serious problem. To me, the more important dysfunction.
It's not his dysfunction, but the dysfunction of how someone
in this situation in life, with all of these drunk
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drivings and so on, is a driving and b being
hired as a sub in school. So let's move into
the story. First of all, he's at Muskego. I admit
I didn't know this. I did not know that school
districts didn't hire their subs. Did you know that? I
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didn't know it? Moskeigo says, we don't hire our subs.
We use Kelly Services. Kelly Services has a division called
Kelly Education that places substitute teachers in school districts. And
Musketigo is angry with Kelly Services, the big temp agency,
for not having flagged this teacher who had two earlier
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drunk drivings this year alone, and Kelly the company was
contacted and they had a PR person who said, gobbling book,
you know, our highest commitment is a safety and call
of education, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, But no
explanation as to how they didn't. They don't do the
most basic thing. In Wisconsin, all arrests and almost all
arrests and almost all court cases are Online's the easiest
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thing in the world to check. How they never check
this guy and what kind of monitoring are they doing
of the people that they're placing a substitutes. So the
first breakdown is these schools, apparently with all the money
that we're spending on education, they don't have somebody on
the staff that's in charge of hiring a substitute that
they've got to outsource that they outsourced this to a
company that's apparently doing a terrible job or actually no
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job of screening candidates whatsoever. So that's of this person
who has this record. It never should have been a
sub given the fact that their life was going off
the rails in the first place, got in there. I wonder,
I have my doubts. I wonder will Muskigo dump Kelly
Services given the fact that they sent a guy who
was having extreme problems all year prior to this incident
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to come and teach into the school. Secondly, what I'm
going to do here is walk through the year twenty
twenty five in this guy's legal life. Prior to twenty five,
he already had one OWI conviction. I don't know when
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it was. I didn't find it online, but the first
one I found was he was charged second offense. Often
that's because the first defense was out of state, or
it might have been municipal, meaning it didn't make a
court filing. But I don't know when it was, but
he had one prior to this year. Fast forward now
to February of this year. He was arrested and charged
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in Kenosha County with a multiple of offenses, including refusing
to take the breath test, not having insurance, improper lane etc.
And then ultimately with OWI second offense. Now again follow
my dates on this February so he was charged with
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numerous traffic offenses plus drunk driving second offense. In February,
the court Commissioner, William Michael released him on a signature bond.
Signature bond means you don't have to put up any cash.
You see your name. The lawyer who represented him in
this Kenosha County case in February was rather interesting to me,
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Mark Powers. Mark Powers is a local criminal defense attorney
who also serves as a municipal judge in several communities
in Waukeshaw County. I reported a couple of years ago
on Mark Powers. Mark Powers himself got a drunk driving
and according to he was arrested by a d n
R warden. They have arrest Powers. A d NR warden
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pulled him over for drunk driving and according to the
police report, he dropped the name of Waukeshaw County District
Attorney Sue Opper City. He was just with her grousing
complained to the warden et cetera. Initially, despite the fact
that his own lawyer claimed he was going to take
accountability for this initially pleaded not guilty. He eventually did
plead guilty. He remains a municipal judge in a number
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of Waukashaw County communities. In the meantime, he does drunk
driving defense work. Why do I bring this up because
this case from Kenosha in February. You know, second offense
drunk drive. A lot of drunk driving cases, they're very
hard to win if you're the defense attorney. They're resolved
rather quickly. The key here is this one's still open.
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He's still free on the signature bond. Now follow my
dates here. When did I say this was February. I'm
asking these questions because I know the absent minded, like
say you have forgotten this? Dates are critical. The second
offense Kenosha County, February is still open and unresolved. Fast
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forward to July. He cited for speeding on the freeway,
not the most important charge, but I mentioned that it happened.
Then fast forward again October twenty first Milwaukee County. This
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happened in the city of cuta Haey. He's arrested for
OWI drunk driving and cuta Hey. This is now third
offense and second of the year. The date now is
October twenty first, follow my dates please. He appears in
Milwaukee County Circuit Court in front of a court commissioner,
Barry Phillips. He sets cash bond at fifteen hundred dollars.
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One of the things that they do when they set
bond for someone is they use the term as conditions
of bond. Can't do this, can't do that, can't do
the other thing. So Barry Philip put fifteen hundred dollars
for him to spring himself on.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Third defense, drunk driving. And one of the conditions is
it's in all of these for drunk driving absolute sobriety.
And then other things though use controlled sounds and blah
blah blah and all of this other stuff. Don't drive
all these things absolute sobriety. Now, when did I say this?
Was like a pain in the aspect demanding these dates.
But you have to follow this. October twenty first, You
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did not remember that, did you? Before you said it?
I now I just said it to you. October twenty first,
So again, February twelfth was the first. Now October then
the speeding in the summer. Now third offense. October twenty first,
released from jail fifteen hundred dollars condition absolute sobriety. The
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incident in Muskego was October thirtieth, nine days later. Remember,
he not only got third offense on the twenty first,
a condition to the bail that got him sprung was
absolute sobriety. He not only doesn't maintain absolute sobriety, he
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gets about a drunk as a human being can get
point thirty six and drives to teach at a school
in Muskego, by the way in the video that they
picked up on, and that's how they realized that he
didn't get dropped off. They looked at the surveillance video
from the schools. I've seen staggering out of his own
car and stumbling twice. So clearly the fact that he
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showed up at a school drawing. None of the kids
were hurt or anything, but think of the people that
could have been injured on the road as somebody this
blasted out of his mind was driving from. And again
he has an address a distance from Askeigo where he
stayed overnight. I don't know when the questioning that he
was doing, I no, I haven't had anything to drink.
I only drank last night. Then he said, well, I
didn't sleep all night. I took a melotone on him.
You should hear this. It's just on and on the
guy's just a sad shape. But again, my focus is
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on everything else. So he's now got third offense. On
October twenty first, fifteen hundred dollars cash bond absolute sobriety
nine days later, blasted out of his mind, arrested again,
now charged with fourth offense. Fourth offense, fourth offense. Muskeigo
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is in Wakashaw County. I mean, on it. Sometimes I
think they'd some of these things just to drive me crazy.
There's several core commissioners in Wakashaw County who do you
think he lands in front of? Would you believe Paul
that he lands in front of David Herring? I mean,
I have spent more what would you call it in
podcast world bites, but plus his time. I want to
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come up with the technology talking about David Herring and
the low bail that he sets. Now this is fourth offense.
Remember now, what did I say about the case from
Kenosian February unresolved? Obviously the third offense of Milwaukee County
October twenty first, unresolved. He's free on bail on both
of those earlier. As I've explained, in any number of
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cases with regard to criminal behavior on anything, drug driving,
you know, assault and battery, no matter what the thing is,
the most dangerous time is when the person is going
to go to prison but their cases are still penning
because they're free on bail. Because they figure, well, I'm
free on bail. I know I'm going to go to
jail for this, or I know I'm going to go
to prison. I'm just gonna keep doing the thing that
I'm doing. This is the problem with low bail and
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the problem with the slow motion court system. So now
he goes in front of David Herring, the court commissioner.
He sets cash bail at ten thousand dollars, which the
guy has posted. He's out right now. This is a
time bomb. Remember all those earlier bail conditions. One of
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the charges he has right now in Waukeshak County is
bail jumping. He's charged with bail jumping for jumping bail
on the third offense of Milwaukee County. But rather than
revoking the bail for jumping, the bail they just charge
him with it and set another bail. I don't know
if somebody posted it for him or he posted it,
but he is out. Who's the villain here, clearly the
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guy who's he's got a problem as a villain. What's
the excuse of Kelly Services. What's the excuse of the
commissioner in Kenosha County? What's the excuse of his no
account lawyer powers for rather than trying to get this
guy that helped that he deserves doing everything he can
to drag out his cases. What's the excuse for David
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Herring and Waukeshaw County for not setting a proper bail.
This guy needs to be locked up to stop himself
from drinking. Not to mention that if ever there was
somebody who was advertising I am a dangerous threat. Fourth
offense usually means prison, at the very least long jail.
So he's staring at this hard to drink when you're
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in those places. He's given the fact that he's in
this situation where you see show it up. He's a terrible,
terrible risk to reoffend at a terrible level. By the way,
in the lengthy video that's out there, you see him
on the phone. It appeared to be his mother, and
you can hear his mother on the phone through the end.
She's telling you're going to lose your teaching lesson. She's
bawling him, O, I can't believe you went to school
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drunk and all of this stuff. I can sense her exasperation.
And that's why it related to my sharing the email
from the mother of the kid who turned out to
be all right and everything. Here's a case of a
mother's trying to get him. And you know, the guy's
drunk cases, he's screwed up, he's got a problem out there.
What's I'm saying? All of this is the case, and
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you and I probably know that. And this stuff with
regard to Harring and Waukeshaw County keeps going on and
nobody does a damn thing about it, and it doesn't
seem to matter how much time I spend. They should
have set bail at this guy at one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. We have passed the Constitutional Amendment in
the state of Wisconsin to allow protection of the public
to be a factor in the consideration of bail. And
when this guy's got all these other drunk driving cases
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that are sitting out there out there, and he then
shows up at a school this far over the limit.
The need to protect the public is absolutely overwhelming. So
I'm telling you who has the bigger problem, him or
the rest of us for not knowing how to handle
this rheus at least has an excuse he's a drunk.
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The sad thing is the people at Kelly, the people
at Musquego who hired Kelly, the court commissioner from Kenosha.
I can't really criticize the Milwaukee court commissioner because he
did up the addy on cash, bonded so on, and
set the conditions, and now that the case is in
walk A Shaw, I think Milwaukee needs to try to
forfeit the bail and grab him back in on that
given the fact that Waukershaw set the low veil for
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the fourth offense. All of this stuff, but there's all
sorts of problems in regard to the handling this from
everybody who's dealt with this guy. The only person who
seems to try to help is the mother who's on
the phone with him, but which, oh thank you, Paul,
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don't do it until end them with the podcast and
it's almost over. I do have linked up on my
ax formerly known as Twitter. Mark Bellings Show is my handle.
The video is linked up on a post that I
put there if you want to see the whole thing.
And I think that these videos, all these police videos
and so on, when people they hear about police instances,
(01:04:25):
when you actually see the arrest and how suspects and
criminals are acting and so on, it's quite eye opening.
And these videos get lots and lots of views. And
it's not a matter of picking on this person, but
realizing when you see how intoxicated he is, what a
danger he actually is when he's out there and I'm
not standing at posts for holyffections. The who drug proving
is the most evil thing in the world. When you're
doing it this many times, make make not learning a
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lesson and then accelerating and getting this far over the limit,
and it's just that you're advertising. Somebody locked me up
and somebody protect the pump, and we sit around and
do nothing, sit around and do nothing. Scratch your butt
and do nothing. By the way, not one of these
people can use the government shutdown as an excuse for
not doing the job, because none of this had anything
to do with the federal government. It's basically just the
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whole thing is. That's my point of this, Paul. There
is almost no reason to think unless somebody in his
family has locked him up and put him into when
you sign somebody away against their will, very hard to,
by the way, do that. Yeah, it's very hard to.
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It's not incarceory institutionalize a person against their will. Late,
there's every reason to think, given the issues that he's having,
he's going to do it again. How do you think
this is going to add? He could have killed three
point three to six drive into a skigo. I have
to comment on this all right. I was in Florida
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the end. I came back late Saturday night. I booked.
I knew that there was a good chance that my
flights were going to be canceled. I found a late
flight light out of I normally plaut A fort Laudernale.
Found a late night flight out of Chicago on Saturday night.
It was a NonStop, but I felt that was the
least likely to get canceled because it's only one flight,
not the two end. It was a puddle jumper and
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buddle jumper that runs NonStop from Miami to Milwaukee, and
it only runs like a couple of days a week.
It's just I got on it and it was delayed,
but I got in and it was a good thing
because one of the flights that I booked for Sunday
was delayed for four hours, and the connection was delayed
for four I don't know who knows where I would
have been anyway. So I get back and I was operating,
(01:06:36):
got no sleep yesterday, and I was barely able to
watch the football games. And because I got up early,
you know, Sunday morning, and after getting in, laid and
I saw the weather advisor come across on my phone,
winter Weather Advisor for lake effects. Now, so I didn't
And I remember last night I went to bed really early,
like nine thirty. I remember waking up hearing howling from
the from the winds and so on, but waking up
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for like fifteen seconds and falling back asleep. So then
I got up this morning. I got up really early,
earlier than I normally do, because I had two of
these kind of put together all this stuff that I
sent to Paul, the audio that we're playing, and I
look out the window at five pint fifteen and there's
nothing on the ground at all. So much for this,
And I find out Kenosha got nine inches of snow,
Northern Illinois got twelve, or Seeing got six and seven.
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Lake effects snow is so weird. So some people would say, well,
wether forecasters got that over on. Well, the thing of
it is they're forecasting for a region and some areas
got wamped with a blizzard and others just a few
miles away, and I live near on the lake got
absolutely nothing, and it was just the focal of the
lake effect. And lake effects snow will occur when you
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have wind blowing off the warmer water of the lake
hitting colder air on the land. And that's what we have.
The lake is still somewhat warm and the airs got
really really cold, and it blows that warmer air into
the cold that it creates its own separate weather system.
It's not a system coming in with storms all through
the thing. It creates it right over the lake. It's
usually on the air is down wind, like you know Michigan,
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the downside of Lake Superior, Buffalo and Cleveland and those places,
but occasionally get in Milwaukee, but it's a eastily when
not the lake and the way that the I guess
the thing was spinning around. It was kind of just
south of Milwaukee County, but Kenosha, Waukegan and so on
womped like absolutely. I put before I left to Florida
on Wednesday. I went in on Tuesday at the snow
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tires put on my car and they kind of looked, well,
this is kind of early to do that. Then I
saw this saying I'm gonna have the last laugh. And
in fact, when I was coming in Saturday night, it
was snowing in Milwaukee Saturday night and the roads were
glazed over ice to use. I was even And Paul
and I are both advocates of snow tires. I mean,
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they're very expensive. They're very very expensive, and I understand that,
but I just think it's the safest thing a person
could do when winter driving. And you just it's like
when you have shoes that have good traction on it
on the ice, as opposed to say a dress shoe.
It's the same kind of difference. You can feel it
with your hands on the wheel. And Paul and I
both I've been stressing Paul, you didn't believe it until
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you until you did, and so on. Finally, now, Yoda,
you have enough money that you can justify doing it.
But I mean it's serious. I'm not exaggerating when I
say this, what's your life worth? I have total confidence
in any weather. I have an all wheel drive car,
you know, the snow tires on it and et cetera.
And finally this I was mentioning the problems with regard
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to a lot of the flights being canceled with the
air traffic controllers and so on. See Trump is so brilliant,
you know. And the government shutdowns not over. The filibus
is over. It's going to take a few days. And
there's lots of cancelations all over the place because some
of the air traffic controllers are not coming in. They're
all going to be paid. They have, however, a life
and death job. Trump proposed, and he's so right about this.
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He said he wants to give a ten thousand dollars
bonus to every air traffic controller who made all of
their shifts during the shutdown and dock the ones who
called head sick. I agree with that. This is not
a case of an employer going under, where you they
missed the payroll for three or four weeks, and you
wonder why somebody will keep coming in. Everybody knows the
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government's gonna make they make good on this. These jobs
are life and death type jobs. These aren't people that
are in parts of the government that are pushing paper around,
so forth and so on. I think that there's an
expectation to go ahead and do this. And here's the thing.
The overwhelming majority of them have showed up. I believe
only forty airports were affected. They were all the big ones,
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but about twelve percent of the flights were canceled yesterday
at those busy airports. Of those forty, and it's gonna
be hired. Well, that means the overwhelming majority are still going.
And I believe I couldn't tell, but it looked to
me like when I was leaving Miami Saturday night, they
had everybody on one runway because we're like zillion for takeoff,
and that was probably just the limited the number of
air traffic controllers got a great shot out of the
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people are so stupid when they take photos out of
the windows of an airplane. I got it, just a
great it's a little puddle jumper that are not stop
was I had great shot at the Miami Skyline taking off,
and after I did that, there was no Wi Fi
on the plane, so I couldn't fall oh quickly well,
the whole time we were sitting on the tarmac. The
good thing about it was I was able to watch
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the end of the Badger game on my phone that
this little thing in Wisconsin upset Washington end it was,
and it was up shortly after Wisconsin won the game
that we took off in. I didn't I never found
I can't sleep on plays. I never fell asleep, but
I was sort of zoned out. I did find. The
only WiFi that was working is the in flight that
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the airplane runs where they have their own videos pre
loaded in. There found a great Sopranos documentary that I want.
I know, I've seen everything related to the Sopranos that exist.
I was not aware of this. It was done by
HBO and it was released I think just a couple
of years ago. It's two parts. I want. The first
part was the only one before the flight landed in
That's what I remember. Yeah, this this was a really
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I don't even remember what the name of it was,
but it was in the in flight video. May you
for American Airlines and you could only watch it on
the phone. It's just a puddle jumper. There's no screen
in the plane or anything like that. This is the
Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast. I've
been mentioning this several times. The shoes keep dropping and
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this is a big one betting scandals that are going
to occur in major American sports now that sports betting
is proliferated and is legal almost everywhere. I mention and
I always have to explain because I know probably most
some of you just know this and many of you
don't know it at all. There are proposition bets now
when you go to a casino you can bet on
just about anything and how many rebounds will a guy
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get and so on. There's something also called live betting
in the States in which you can bet via app.
That would not be us in Wisconsin, but in many
states you can vet bet. You know, you got your
phone and bet via an app. You can bet in
a baseball game, for example, on the next pitch, not batter,
pitch the close for the Cleveland Guardians, Emmanuel plays the closer.
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This is a big time players. I think he was
an All star was on the take, and he cut
deals with gamblers to deliberately throw a ball on certain pitches.
That's real easy to conceal, you know, let's put and
it was always the first pitch of the at bats.
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So that was the tip waff and the federal indictment
of him. He's federally charged. They've got the video. You
should see some of this stuff. Some of these pitches
are like five feet outside the strike zone. There was
just no doubt. He wasn't going to take any chance
that the batter was going to swing, because if the
batter swings, the pitch is a strike and not a ball.
So we had to throw it so far that even
a stupid hitter wouldn't chase the pitch. Paul said, how
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much is he making? The story that I have here
from the Athletic dot com, which is part of the
New York Times. They found it on some of these bets,
some of these individual bets, there were as much, in fact,
to the indictment. Better's made more than four hundred thousand
dollars off of his alleged rig pitches. Now on some
of these, will the next pitch be a ball or
a strike? They have low limits the gambling sites have
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just to prevent anybody from wet inside knowledge of something
or another. So he had to do it a lot
of different times. Throw a ball here, throw a ball there,
et cetera. So the gamblers am making a fortune. And
his cut was just the four hundred thousand. So the
loss here for the gambling sites that were doing it
was massive. And the way it's often caught as the
gambling sites will start to flag why was there so
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much money on this? Secondly, there are informants. The thing
with when you when you're dealing with the mob, an
organized gamb was what you don't think they're going to
talk to save themselves. He recruited another pitcher for Cleveland,
or Teas, to do the same thing. Or Teas's number
was about sixty thousand dollars, so he made four hundred
thousand dollars. His salary was four point five million. He's
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going to be likely go to prison, he's going to
be banned from baseball for life. You can say, well,
why did it? Just probably seems like such easy money.
How how is anybody going to catch it? The thing
that's going to continue to develop as a scandal in
sports betting isn't so much throwing games. It's going to
be these proposition bets. And I just think all the
gambling sites that operate this need to reconsider whether or
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not they're setting themselves up to be fleeced right and left. Because,
for example, in basketball, they'll have a prop on the
number of rebounds a player gets. Let's imagine it's five,
the over under is five? Really easy for a guy
who's got three rebounds not to get the fourth or
the fifth. And who would even notice the ball? You know,
he didn't reach for the ball, etc. This case, the
guy pitches a ball or a spiracle. Pitchers throw balls
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all the time. How would you ever know? And I'm
not criticizing sports gambling one way or Another's legal hero
in Wisconsin how to do it a patdo, and the
Indian casinos and so on. Sports betting is figned. But
these proposition bets, as I say, they are a terrible
threat to the integrity of all of these sports. And
this is whether sports have to continue to insist upon
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the death penalty, in other words, banned from the sport
for life to anyone who does it, even the one time.
It's the only way to prevent it. With regard to
Wisconsin football program, Wisconsin announced earlier in the week that
Luke Fickle will come back as head football coach. I
think that's the right decision. Wisconsin football programs having a
terrible season, but it's a schizoy team. Wisconsin has one
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of the best defenses in the country. They held Oregon
the week prior to twenty one points, and Oregon has
as good an offense as you'll find anywhere, and the
defense was just awesome against Washington. Fikel has built an
incredible defense. The problem is the offense stinks, and he
hired a bad offensive coordinator in his first two years
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and it's taking time to rebuild the offense, get in
better recruits. The offensive line's a mess, and all of
his quarterbacks keep going down. He's now lost his first
spring quarterback in each of his first two years, and
now with Danny O'Neil going down Saturday, his first and
second string quarterback this year. But I think that they
recognize they have to fix the offense. But he's built
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a world class defense, which is a pretty good starting point. Secondly,
with all these schools firing coaches and Wisconsin not having
donors that are willing to come up with a kind
of money to hire a great coach, to just start
over again, have everybody transfer out, including they've got two
freshmen on defense that they decided not to red shirt.
They insert in the middle of the season. There's two
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of them that are Mason Poso, who wears number eight.
He just freshman. He's only played a couple of games out.
He's as good a defensive player as I think is
in college football. He is right there, alright, He's a freshman.
I'm putting him right there already with the great linebackers
in Wisconsin history in Wisconsin is linebacker you both Watts,
several others over the years. He's just a phenomenal athlete
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and he they won the game almost single handedly because
of him. The fumble that I get to watch while
this is on my phone on the sitting on the turmac.
He forced the fumble on the five yard line, which
is the only reason Wisconsin scored a touchdown at all.
And then on the final driver, Washington was stymied. He
made a sack earlier and then on the fourth down
played the Quodawx scrambleak for first down and he tackled
him on that. So, I mean Fickles brought in these
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players that he has a good defensive system, and I
think understanding that in college football, when you fire the coach,
the whole team transfers. You start from scratch, and they're
not going to be able to hire to eat his contract.
I mean, the big problem Wisconsin he has is that
the donors will not come up with enough money to
pay for five star recruits. I mean, I am not
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close to this part of it. I know people who are.
They think the problem with Wisconsin might be in the administration,
with the athletic director Macintosh, and not necessarily the head coach.
I think Wisconsin's overall athletic department is very very good.
The basketball team's pretty good, the women's hockey team is
a dynasty, the women's volleyball team is very good. The
athletic directors in charge of all of that. It's not
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just the football. But I do think there is hope
that by next year Fickle will have an offense that's
much better, and if he can keep this defense at
the level that it's at, I think that they can
bounce back. Unfortunately, they're going to get killed this weekend
they play Indiana, which is Indiana might be the best
team of the country. They look like they were going
to finally lose a game on Sunday and guy made
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like the best catch of the history of college football.
And they didn't. But Wisconsin did in beating the fans
even ran the field. I mean that shows you how
far Wisconsin's falling. The beating the number twenty four team
in the country causes you to run the field. But
it was just it was just a shot in the
arm for a beaten down program. And the other credit
to Fickle's whole staff is normally when the wheels fall
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off on a team like that, the players quit. They
haven't quit. They're trying harder than ever. And they got
their win. And after they lose to Indiana next week,
they left chances in the final two weeks of the season.
And now this I'm going to tell you about a
football team that has scored two hundred and eighteen points
the last four weeks. That's a lot. Look at you,
(01:19:56):
and they're trying to do the math. Actually, the like
every late game lasts every not the night, not the
Sunday night game, but every one of the late three
o'clock games, the winning teams going over forty points. I
mean all three of the three o'clock game. And that
was enough that before I fell asleep and I was
able to pick up a note, River Falls, I'm killing you.
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The State University System Conference and so on, Paul, I
don't remember River Falls ever being good in anything. I
mean anything, not just the academics, sports anything. Their football
team is ranked number four in the country this year,
and I look this up because they beat my alma mater, Lacrosse,
which is a very good football team, that killed them.
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River Falls in the last four weeks has scored two
hundred and eighteen points, and they've played two or three
of the better teams in the conference. In that stretch.
They scored fifty two against Stevens point, seventy three against Eauclaire,
fifty two against Whitewater, and forty one against Lacrosse. It's
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not like they just hired a hot they've been They've
gotten good the last few years and this is the
strongest team ever. But two to eighteen points in the
last four weeks. That was river Falls at Paul. That's
see I wanted you do a two story podcast, but
there's just always too much and I have to We
got it all in today, Talk to you soon.
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