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Speaker 1 (00:02):
From the heart of the Space City to the heart
of gen Z.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back to Next Gen Conversation, not Dad's Talk Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ethan talks to you about the issues and events that
mat are to our generation.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
This is the Next Gen Report put Ethan Buchanan happens. Hey, everybody,
good Sunday evening to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I hope you are doing well. This is going to
be a little.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Bit of a rough episode to a certain extent. I mean,
there's some stuff in here. It's been a rough week.
There's been a lot going on, and not all of
it is great. So I want to start off in
this first segment by talking about some positive things that
are happening.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And it's very important to me that people remember this.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
There is always going to be good and bad stuff
going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That will never change.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Okay, So I think kind of the key to not
getting yourself kind of down in the dumps about everything
going on in the world, because it's really easy to
just glue yourself to the news.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
All the time and think it's the end times always,
and hey, it might be.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We don't know when our Lord and say of Jesus
Christ will return. But I think right now we've got
some time to hold out, so let's try to just
enjoy life a little bit, and sometimes the key to
that is just detaching a little bit. Don't bury yourself
too much in the headlines. That's why shows like this
are here, so you can kind of get the good
news and the bad news that you sort of need
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to stay informed, but not constantly be buried in just
all the negative headlines, because that does take a toll
on you.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It does. So let's start with some good stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And this one is gonna kind of sound like a
bad thing, but it's a good thing, promise me. Sorry,
had to sip my coffee, all right, Jolly Rancher candies
pulled from shelves in UK over cancer concerns. Now you
may look at that and say, how in the world
is that good news. Well, I'll tell you right now,
it's good news because we're noticing, right, I mean, we're
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finally starting to realize that a lot of these artificial
foods and colors and flavoring Lottie Dottie doll, all of
that stuff is bad for you. It didn't just recently
start being bad for you. It's been bad for you
the entire time. And we've just been kind of ignoring
the problem, and you know, that's probably why we have
such high cancer rates. So let's tick into this article
from USA Today. Health visuals in the United Kingdom are
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warning customers to throw away certain Jolly Rancher candies due
to ingredients that may increase the risk of cancer. The
candies made by the Hershey Company include Jolly Rancher Hard Candy,
Jolly Rancher Misfits Gummies, Jolly Rancher Hard Candy, Fruity two
in one, and Jolly Rancher Bury Gummies.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So, like I said, the good news.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Is the fact that we're actually noticing and doing something
about this. RFK Junior is kind of leading the charge
on this here in the United States, actually thinking about
the things that we're putting into our body and addressing
some of these concerns and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Issues, which is good.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We don't want to sit and continue to eat these
things forever and just continue to have cancer rates skyrocket.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That wouldn't be good. This is a.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Great step forward, and hopefully we can start doing the
same things here in the United States. Obviously, it's gonna
take a little bit longer for us, just because it
always does the UK is usually able to move very
quickly on things like this, whereas it takes to the
United States, you know, years sometimes to take action. But
we've got RFCJ when you're in this is this whole
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thing we're looking at. This already begin to happen in
the UK, so I'm confident that it'll happen here in
the United States sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And that is a good thing. All right.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Here's something else that I like that I wanted to
point out. House approves bill to codify nine point four
billion dollars in doze cuts to foreign aid and public
media that will now go to the Senate, where chances
are it'll get approved.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So let's dig into this one a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The House of Representatives passed a bill on June twelfth
to send nine point four billion dollars in federal spending.
Introduced by House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, it passed two
fourteen to two hundred and twelve. Now goes to the Senate,
where it will likely pass along party lines. As in
the House, only a majority will be needed to pass
it because it is not subject to the sixty vote
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filibuster threshold. So this is also a great piece of news.
This is a sign that while we could be doing
more to actually effectuate a lot of what Elon Musk did,
actions are being taken. We are looking at the spending
and starting to pare that down. Is nine billion dollars enough? No,
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we need way more. But the ball is rolling. And
I really think this is something our side has a
hard time appreciating. The Conservatives, the Republicans, we tend to
very much have an all or nothing approach when it
comes to things like this, And I understand that kind
of mentality because it's it's really hard to look and say, Okay,
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why aren't we winning. We know we're right, we should
be winning. We are winning, it's just taking us a
little bit longer to do it. And I want to
remind you all of the little victories that the left
has had, they didn't have those in one go.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The left is very good at this.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
They're comfortable moving incrementally to get done what they want
to get done. I think the right needs to start
being a little bit more comfortable with that, because right
now we are we demand everything all at once, and
if we don't get it, we throw our hands up
in the air and surrender. We got to stop doing that.
We gotta get away from that. So let's dig in
a little bit to what these actual cuts were. So
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the seven page bill eliminates funding for the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting GREAT, which funds the Public Broadcasting Service and
National Public Radio that's NPR. It also sinds fifteen million
from the Institute of PAS and twenty two million from
the African Development Foundation. Additionally, it scales back billions of
dollars in economic assistance through the US Agency for International
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Development that's us AID.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So remember right after Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Came into office and we had Doze come in and
we found out that USAID was, you know, facilitating contracts
with like former members of al Qaeda, and they were
sending out money for like comics about transgender people in
Peru and all kinds of crazy stuff like that. Getting
rid of that stuff is absolutely a good thing. We
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should be cheering and applouding. This bill also codifies some
of the cuts made by the Department of Government Efficiency,
which was led by Elon Musk doche has saved taxpayers
one hundred and eighty billion dollars or more. That comes
out to around one and eighteen dollars per taxpayer according
to the doge website. So again, this is all great news.
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Do we need more absolutely, But now we've got the
ball rolling, right. That's key. Once we start, once we
start making these cuts and codifying these cuts, people will
start to realize. Okay, wait a minute. I was told
by the mainstream media and the left that this was
the end of the world, and now we've already got
this ball rolling and everything is fine. So whatever, what
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the hell? We have got to be incremental. We've got
to take our time. Don't post for everything all at once,
even though you really want it, because it's not practical
and it's never gonna work. All right, stay tuned. We've
got a great show coming up. We've got some highlights
from the No Kings protest. I was there on the
ground yesterday, so I'm going to share some of that
with y' all coming up.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
All right, this segment is gonna be a little bit
heavier than the last one was. Welcome back. This is
the next Gen Report. I'm Ethan Buchanan. We unfortunately have
had over the last several days, a pretty significant instance
of what appears to be political violence. All the details
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are still coming out. So I'm going to try not
to be too definitive because there's just a lot we
still don't know, right, And that's the case always with violence,
but especially with political violence. There's still just a whole
lot that is unclear here. So I'm gonna give you
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everything that I can comfortably give you without kind of
treading into the waters of.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
The unknown, which is never a good idea. So here's
what we know.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
In Minnesota, that's the home state of former vice presidential
candidate Tim Walls, we had four different people, all in
connection with the Minnesota state legislature that were shot. So
two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses. That was early yesterday morning,
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I believe it was see I'm looking for the names
right now. Democrat Senator Joan Huffman Huffman and Democratic Representative
Melissa Hortman and their spouses. They were shot by a
suspect that was impersonating a police officer, is what we
think we.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Know so far.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So Melissa Hortman and her husband have both passed away.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That is a tragedy.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
This really is incredibly sad to see, and we still
don't know what exactly was going on that led to
all of this. We have a suspect, we have a manifesto.
So there's a lot that will come out over the
next several days. I think that will help clear a
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lot of this up. But here's a little bit of
what we know right now. A former appointee of Democratic
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls is shot or is sought in
connection with the assassination of the lawmakers, or the assassination
of the lawmaker and her spouse and the attempted assassination
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of the other lawmakers. Authority say Vance Luther Bolter allegedly
posed as a police officer when he shot Senator John
Hoffman and his wife in their home early Saturday morning,
leaving them seriously injured, before moving on to former Democratic
House Speaker Melissa Hortman's house. She and her husband were killed.
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And so, of course, all of this happened at the
same day as the No King's protest, and we'll get
into that in a little bit in the next two segments.
I want to hit this first because I think it's
frankly more important because some people died.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So we're gonna talk about this first.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Now, normally you would look at this and say, Okay,
this is pretty clearly political violence, which it is.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
This is bad.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We don't need to pick sides over this. This doesn't
have to be a political issue. We should all be
able to say this is bad. This shouldn't be politicized.
We need to find the guy who did this and
bring him to justice. That's not what happened. The left
immediately started trying to politicize this, and then after they
had already put out all their stupid tweets politicizing us,
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that's when we found out that it was actually a
leftist probably who assassinated these people, which just goes to
show you why you shouldn't politicizing tragedies like this.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That didn't stop the left.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
They immediately turned around and started blaming Republicans for all
of this. Somebody tweeted out two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota
were shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a
police officer. The hatred being stoked by Trump and his
fascist authoritarian regime against Democrats has consequences. I'm gonna go
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off on a limb here and say the probably Democrat
political appointee of Democrat governor and former VP candidate Tim
Walls probably didn't murder these people because Trump told him to.
I'm just I'm guessing I could be wrong, but I'm
fairly confident in that guess. It probably was not Trump's fault.
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Jasmine Crockett. She also went and ran her mouth about it.
You know, Jasmine Crockett, as the famously pretends to be
really stupid for I guess attention or clips. She's a
representative from the state of Texas in the federal House
of Representatives. She tweeted out, this is unacceptable. My heart
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breaks for the families of the victims, their constituents, their
community in our country. Nothing is Christian nor patriotic about
the amount of cruelty and violence in our current political climate.
She's right, there's nothing Christian about this at all. I'm
not sure what she's trying to imply that this was
done because of Christianity or patriotism because it was done
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by a leftist. I don't know how familiar you are
with leftists, but they don't tend to be the most
Christian or patriotic people in the world, just on average.
But again, I want to emphasize that she said, our
current political climate, the cruelty and violence and our current
political climate. She's trying to sort of blame this on everybody, Right,
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it's the entire political climate that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
There's only one party that's doing this stuff. There's only
one party that's going out and regularly having big riots,
regularly going out and you know, burning down entire left
wing cities.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's not the Republicans. It's not.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Maybe we did January sixth, but that was probably more
the Feds than anybody else, if I'm being honest with you,
and that happened one time, versus we have the left
that's constantly going out and doing political violence regularly, and
now they've graduated to murder, or at least this one
leftist has. Here is Tim Walls making his official statement
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announcing the death of Melissa Hortman.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
We're here today because an unspeakable tragedy has unfolded in Minnesota.
My good friend and colleague, Speaker Melissa, and her husband
Mark were shot and killed early this morning what appears
to be a politically motivated assassination. Our state lost a
great leader, and I lost the dearest of friends. Speaker
Hartman was someone who served the people of Minnesota with grace, compassion,
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humor and a sense of service. She was a formidable
public servant, a fixture, and a giant in Minnesota. She
woke up every day determined to make this state a
better place. She is irreplaceable, and we've been missed by
so many. Minnesota's thoughts and prayers are with her family,
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her loved ones, her children, and her parents.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Walls went on to encourage everybody to kind of stay
home from yesterday's protests. Off after that. Obviously that makes
perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
He says.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
The shootings were likely politically motivated, and a list was
found in the suspect's car that also included himself, the Governor,
Tim Walls, US Representative Ilhan Omar, and Senator Tina Smith,
as well as others. There were also reports that no
Kings flyers were found in the car, So again, this
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seems to be a leftist attacking other leftists, which raises
a lot of questions as to why we know that
leftist ideology has for a long time been one that
is okay with violence for the political means. I would
be inclined to think that this is probably where that's
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stemming from. I would very much love to see some
sort of manifesto. We know he had one, which means
we know why he did this. That should be released immediately.
We should have had that the moment we found it.
That should have been public. We need to know what
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about this guy's ideology led him to attack people that
presumably because he worked with them, he was on their side. Again,
I can't stress this enough. This guy was an appointee
of Tim Walls. This was not some crazy right winger.
He worked for Tim Walls. What we should be seeing
is some accountability from the left for their constant pushing
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and at the very least tut tutting and allowing.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Of political violence. They've got to do better on that.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Stop trying to blame shift, Stop trying to act like
this is a problem that everybody has, that oh, it's
just the political climate.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No it's not.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It's one particular side of the political aisle that keeps
doing it, and it keeps getting worse. Thoughts and prayers
for the people affected. But I really hope we actually
start getting to the bottom of this rather than just
trying to blame everybody and frankly ignoring the actual problem,
which is leftism pushes violence.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It does, all right, Stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
We've got a lot coming up, actually some peaceful leftism,
thank the Lord, stay tuned. Alrighty, let's talk about the
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No Kings protest. Stuff like this, by the way, for
the record, is exactly why you should be following me
on social media at underscore Ethan Buchanan, that's b U
C h A n A N on X. I was
there all day yesterday, the entire protest. I was there,
I was posting, I was taking pictures, I was uploading.
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So if you want to see what's going on at
things like this, but you can't be bothered to drive
all the way to downtown Houston and stand out in
the heat amongst a bunch of smelly leftists, you can
just keep eye on my social media and I'll share
you all of that without any of the trouble. So
go follow me on X of course Instagram as well
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the dot Ethan you can, and there's a bunch of
pictures and videos and vlogs and whatnot that I did
at the protest yesterday, And of course katers dot com.
We've got a lot of that stuff available online for
you as well, a lot of videos, photos, some stuff
that we'll be getting into in this segment, and I
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think probably the next segment as well, We're going to
talk about this a little bit, just because there was
so much. There is a lot to talk about with
these protests, and I'm going to get into as much
of it as I can, and that's probably going to
spill over into the next segment. First of all, I
will say this, here in Houston, we can protest, we
can exercise our First Amendment, and it doesn't have to
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be a whole Shenanigan. And honestly, I can say I
had a decent time there. You know, everybody seemed to
be relatively friendly. I don't think anybody knew that I
was a radical right winger. You know, I kind of
kept to myself, didn't interact much with everybody, but everybody
seemed to be polite. If I needed to walk somewhere,
I could just say, hey, pardon me, and you know,
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the waters would part and I would be able to
kind of work my way through the crowd, and you know,
people would bump into each other, but there was always like,
oh my bad, I apologize, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So you know, people were friendly.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It was I don't know if I would recommend you
going to these, but I do appreciate the fact that
here in Houston we can have big protests like this,
big rallies like this, and people don't lose their minds
at each other. There's no major stories. So according to
KTRH reports, no major incidents occurred at the No King's
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Anti Trump rally at City Hall. It drew more than
ten thousand people. I have seen some estimates on x
I don't know how accurate it is, but I have
seen some people say that there was as many as
twenty six thousand people there. I don't know if I
believe that, but there was definitely a big crowd.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I could.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I could see it just from being there on the ground.
So go to ktih dot com, or go to my
Instagram or my ex and go look at some of
those pictures and you can see just how big the
crowd is. HPD, by the way, full credit to them.
They did a fantastic job of just kind of keeping
the peace, and everybody seemed relatively happy to see them there.
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They were kind of keeping the crowd where the crowd
needed to be, and nobody was cussing them out or
yelling at them. I saw a lot of people even
the wild leftists that were going up to them and
thanking them for being there, and that was nice to see.
I will give credit to the Houston leftists. They're crazy,
but they are polite, all right. You have to give
them at least that. They also seem to be more
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than happy to talk, which was also really nice.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
There were a couple of different people that I was.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Able to take some time and actually have a conversation
with do a little bit of an interview, and they
were more than happy to speak with me.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So I'm going to share a little bit of that
with you as well.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So the first conversation I had was with a Hispanic
gentleman that I saw carrying a flag that the first
layer was the American flag and then it had the
Mexican flag that Mexican eagle symbol over it, and I
thought that was interesting. So I took some time and
I went and I actually asked him about it. It's like, hey,
can you can you tell me a little bit about
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this flag that you're holding and what it means, And
he was more than happy to talk with me about it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
To me, it means a sense for who I am.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
As an American born here in America with parents.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Won Well, she's she came over.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
My mom, she came over from Mexico as a migrant worker,
and now she's a citizen. But she's from Mexico and
now she's a citizen. My father and his family they
lived here in Texas since it was Mexico, right, I
mean generation after generation. My dad's family from here, so
they used in Mexican. But of course after generations they're American,
but never always being proud of being an American, but never forgetting.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
My roots, my cold sure, my traditions. So that's why
it means a lot to me.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Now, first of all, huge props to this guy again
for actually taking the time to have a conversation with
me about this.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I do, and you know, he seems to be coming
from a very sincere place.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I have said it before and I'll say it again.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I one hundred percent support people being kind of connected
and appreciative of whatever their birth culture or heritage is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I think that's a great thing I do.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I love going to an Irish pub and kind of
celebrating the fact that I have some of that, you know,
Scotch Irish European ancestry.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
And this guy very much seemed to me, from what
I could tell, to definitely be proud of the fact
that he was American. But one thing I couldn't help
but notice when I was talking to him is he's
a legal citizen. Both his parents are legal citizens and
have been for some time. And this is primarily an
ICE protest. This guy and his family, none of them
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are actually in danger of being deported. They're all American citizens.
They all have just as much right to be in
this country as I do. So what is he worried about?
And that's a question I asked him, and he told
me he's essentially concerned that Mexican culture and Mexican heritage
and just people being brown in the United States is
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under attack. I don't see that. It's just not really happening.
But I asked him about that. Can you can you
point to any examples for me of that happening, of
situations that you've seen that make you think, Okay, I,
as a Hispanic American, am under attack.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now that's the question I asked him. Here's his response.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Well, now, even even now as they're taking American citizens,
you know, just just by being a brown person.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You're getting picked up, you know, and and and and being.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Profile just for your for your skin, for your.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Just for being a brown person.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And that's what I'm like, you know, five generations, four
generations you know here, and I still have to not
watch my back because now it's just because of the
color of your skin that you're getting, you know, profile.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And this is kind of where I got to the
point of actually feeling bad for this guy, because this
seems like a really sincere guy who was completely misled
by be it the Democrats or the media or what
have you, because that's just not happening. That it's just
not There is nobody, there is no ice agent that's like, oh,
look a brown person, throw them in the truck. It's
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not happening. It just isn't. But he really did believe
that it was.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He did.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I'm very confident that he truly and sincerely was concerned
about that happening. And hey, if it was happening, I
would be right there with him saying, hey, this is
a problem. We've got to not do this. You can't
just arrest into poor people for being brown. What you
can do, and what has been happening is people being
arrested and deported for being in the country illegally. This
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is something that I think the left just does not understand,
be that because they've been deceived or they know better
and they want.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
To pretend that they don't.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Nobody on the right has a problem with legal immigration,
at least very very few people, and they're on the
fringe and they're not running the party or the government.
We have no problem with somebody saying, Hey, I want
to come from this country and be an American.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's great. We encourage that.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
That is what America was built on, people from Ireland
saying I want to come be an American, people from Scotland, England,
all over the world for you know, the two hundred
and fifty years that the United States of America has
been here. But what happens is they come here the
right way, they come here legally right and they assimilate
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and they become Americans. Most Americans on the right want that.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
We do.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
We recognize that that's a good thing, and we encourage that.
But people on the left have done such a great
job of convincing other people on the left that, no,
we want to deport all the brown people just for
being brown. It's not true. It's a lie. But again,
this guy seemed to be sincere. He seemed to be
a reasonable guy. So I asked him, Okay, so where
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would you draw the line. Where do you think we
need to say, Okay, these people need to be deported,
these people need to be kept out of the country.
I was actually curious to see what he had to
say about that, because again he seemed like a reasonable,
sincere guy.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Here's how he answered that question.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's the thing that a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Of people, they are like, oh, so you don't want
criminals out the country. No, nobody's I've never as an
American citizens, as a Latino, I've never not heard anybody
ever say oh no, don't the court criminals.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No one's ever saying that. Nobody.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
But you know, when you start deporting, you know, hardworking
people that are just you're making a living, that are
well now that they're deporting people that are doing it
the right way.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's how you sit here is oh, just do it
the right way, do it the right way.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Well, the people are doing it the right and they're
still get reported, you know, so it just it's come
to the point where there's there's no there's no line
in the sand, there's nowhere where and and one thing
as an American because I am an American citizen, proud
of it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Uh yeah, there has to be changes and immigration.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
There has to be clarity, you know, of of the
lose and don't uh deportations.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen because you know, it's
just it's the law, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
But when you when you've taken that and weaponized it
on a certain kind of people, God's a problem.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Okay, So why am I playing this for you is
because I want you to understand some of these people
actually are well meeting. I think this guy is a
type of guy that you can say, Okay, here's what's
actually happening.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You've been lied to. He seems reasonable.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
We need to have more conversations with people on the left,
not shut them out. That's what they do to the right,
and it's a problem. All right, We've got more from
the No Kings protests coming up. I need to be cannon.
This is the next ship report. We'll be right back,
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all right. I've got another interview that I want to
share with you that I did at the No.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Kings protest yesterday.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
This is a lady who she again seemed very sincere,
just like the gentleman that we talked to in the
last segment. But she was I think, very ill informed.
But I do appreciate the fact that she was willing
to have just kind of an open conversation with me.
She was very friendly, she was very polite, but yes,
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I think very informed. Again, grateful for her taking the
time to talk to me, and I want to encourage
all to do the same thing. Actually have some conversations
with leftists. It's not necessarily fun. Oftentimes it's difficult, and
they kind of get on your nerves. But there are
people out there on the left that I think are
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reasonable and can be reasoned with. And I think it's
a good thing to try and talk with these people,
if for no other reason than to win over a
couple of votes, Because if you can reason with somebody
and say, Okay, I think you're wrong, here's why, maybe,
just maybe they'll get to the point where they say, oh, yeah,
you know what, maybe I am wrong, and guess what
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you've just won yourself a new voter. Is that gonna
happen all the time, Probably not. Is that gonna happen
most of the time. Probably not.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But there are a few out of the you know,
millions of.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Conversations that I've had with leftists that were actually kind
of fun, positive discussions that I was able to have.
So this one lady had a very interesting sign that
was talking about the fact that the number one cause
of inflation is dictators and I thought that was interesting
because you know, the left bury their heads in the
sand when it comes to inflation, at least during Joe
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Biden's time in office. So I figured, Okay, well, at
least she has some legitimate economic concerns. Maybe we'll see
eye to eye on some things here. So let me
have a conversation with this lady.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So I walked up to her. I asked her if
she was willing to do.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
A radio interview, and she said yes, and then I
asked her about her sign. Here's what she said when
I asked her to tell me about it. Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
This is the sign that I had made during the election,
and I was hoping that this message might be persuasive
to economic voters, people who are only persuaded by how
their vot's going to impact their wallet. I'm very worried
about dictatorship and authoritarianism for many other reasons, but here
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in Houston, Texas, I hope that some people might see
that what was before us and to come would impact
their wallet. And we're watching that happen now in real time,
so the same time, they're the same sign from the election,
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because I hope that some people who maybe aren't persuaded
by the very real and very compelling human rights issues
will at least be persuaded by what fascism and dictatorship
is surely doing and going to continue to do to
the economy, to everyone in the economy. Every single person
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suffers under fascism, authoritarianism, and dictatorship, every single person, No
one comes out better. Watch the movie Intercepted showing intercepted
communications from Russian troops on the ground in Ukraine and
hear what they talk about. They talk about how much
better the quality of life is in Ukraine. They're shocked
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because things aren't great in Russia economically because they've been
living under authoritarianism and a dictator. So this is what
happens everywhere the world over. We see it happening again
and again and again impacted, and.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So is your wallet.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Now, I'm not going to disagree with her on the
substance of what she said there, because she is right.
These kind of authoritarian, kind of socialist, fascist states, She's right,
they do tend to not do super well economically speaking.
I would disagree with her on the point that America
has reached that point.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I think that's kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
But what she's saying about, hey, these systems of authoritarian
governments are not good for the economy, that's entirely correct.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
She is right.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
So I asked her, can you point to anything specific
here in the United States that kind of draws out
these concerns for you? Is there anything specific that you
look at and say, ah, yes, this is the type
of fascism and authoritarianism that kills economies. Unsurprisingly, she couldn't
give me any kind of specific examples.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
But here's her answer. Well, I think you.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Watch the direction that money's flowing. I mean, we have
the post BBB suppose a beautiful bill that's uh, you know,
shift of economic resources from certain groups of people to.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Other groups of people.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And you know when you see that.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Happen you see the impact of terrasts, you see the
impact on small businesses. You're going to be deporting migrants,
huge part of the workforce, people who work in all
areas of the economy, you know, from small business owners.
They you know, buy goods as well. They contribute to
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our communities and provide all sorts of you know, caretaking services, labor,
not to mention you know, every single thing that they do,
you know, culturally and holistically for our country and have
for generations. So if you're going to remove those people
from the country, then you're going to have a massive
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economic impact. And we're already seeing that. And where's the
money gonna go just to pay for jails and deportation
flights instead of you know, having someone who's a community
member who's gonna be contributing economically.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Okay, I'm gonna interrupt her real quick, because that was
the cheap labor argument, that was, oh, we need this
cheap labor, you know that the illegal aliens give us.
Otherwise our prices are gonna go way up.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Who's gonna you.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Know, pick our fruits and vegetables. Who's gonna clean our
hotel rooms? And I didn't point this out to her
because I didn't really feel like starting a fight, and
I felt like that probably would have. But that is
the exact same argument that the slave owners used back
when abolition was being pushed.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Who will pick our cotton?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You can't free the slaves because then we'll have to
pay people to pick our cotton. She just used the
exact same argument there. You can't deport the illegal aliens
because then who will be our cheap labor. I don't
think she noticed that she did it. She's just kind
of repeating the talking points. But if you take that
to the logical conclusion, that's what she's saying.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I don't think she meant it like that.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
She didn't seem like a just kind of racist person,
but that is the logical conclusion of what she's saying.
She then went on to talk about how just inevitably,
if you have a fascist system, everything just kind of
falls apart and the economy collapses. And so from there
I asked her, Okay, well, you know, the price of
eggs has gone down, inflation is slowing down. Things seem
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to be going pretty well despite the tariffs. We haven't
you seen a massive increase in consumer goods at least yet.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So how do you respond to that?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
You have all these concerns that I think are legitimate
about the economy, but it doesn't seem that any of
them are materializing.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
In fact, the opposite is happening.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
The economy is, according to all available data, slowly starting
to improve after four years of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So what do you make of that? How do you
respond all that?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And I gotta say this was probably her weakest answer
of all the questions I asked her.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Take a list into this.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I would say, take a look at the overall, large
scale changes that you see happening, and ask yourself, do
you feel stable? Do you feel economically secure? Do you
feel like next month you can tell me what the
egg prices are going to be, what the gas prices
are going to be, that you can make business investments,
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hiring investments, you know, move, buy a house, rent. Do
you feel like you know what's going to happen in
the next month, the next six months. Do you feel
like there's any sort of stability? I certainly don't. I
find it very terrifying. We've seen things go up and down,
up and down, up and down, and the overall shift
if you just look at history any type of dictatorship,
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fascist regime, authoritarianism, The economy tanks, it slides down. We're
in the earlier stages of it, and it's just going
to keep going unless we reverse.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So essentially, she gave me nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
She's very scared, and hey, I feel for you if
you're very scared, but I would submit to you that
your fears are based on nothing, because what we have
seen is investment skyrocket. We are still seeing consumer confidence
and that's kind of what she's talking about. Do you
feel good about the economy? That is a little bit
lower than we would like it to be, and it
continues to be that way, But overall, the actual economic
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data that we're getting out of the Trump administration is good.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It has been good. Can it be better? Yes? Will
it get better? I believe so.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I'm confident in the economy, and I would submit to
you that you should be too. Let go of the
fears that the mainstream media is telling you to have
and actually look at the data. And that's something I
feel like a lot of the people in this protest
weren't doing. So I want to encourage you over the
next week, have some conversations with some leftists and try
to give them some actual facts and logic and see
how they respond to it. It might actually be positive.
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All right, That's all I've got for you this week.
I'm even b Caanan. This is the Next Gen Report
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