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November 17, 2025 14 mins
White House Correspondent Jon Decker breaks down this week's House vote on the Epstein Files, why President Trump called Marjorie Taylor Greene a traitor, and an important warning from the CEO of Ford.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go back to the highline and bring in our
White House correspondent John Decker. Now, John, it's great to
talk to you this morning. The House it looks like
set to vote on the Epstein files tomorrow. President Trump
reversing course last night saying Republicans should vote for it. Really,
it's not about whether or not this is going to pass,
it's how many Republicans get on board with this vote.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, that's right, you know, this is a major reversal
for the president. Think about last week. Ryan, I'm sure
you've spoken about it, But think about how there was
a full court press by the White House by the
President to get certain Republican House members not to sign
that discharge petition, that even brought Lauren Bober to the
Situation Room to meet with the Attorney General and the

(00:44):
FBI Director, convincing her to take her name off the
discharge petition. And now here we are less than a
week later, the President putting out on social media at
about nine to fifteen Eastern time last night that he
wants Republicans now to vote for this legislation that would
force the DOJ to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Let me ask you this John. If the President wanted
the Department of Justice to release these files, he could
just have them do it, right. We wouldn't need to
go through this House vote and then maybe a Senate
vote and him signing the bill and all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Absolutely, you know, and the President has made a clear
in social media posts how he would like the DOOJA
to handle certain aspects of the Jeffrey Epstein matter, including
his social media post last week urging Pam Bondi, the
Attorney General, to look into certain very high profile Democrats

(01:41):
and their connection to Jeffrey Epstein, people like Bill Clinton
and Larry Summers, the former president of Harvard University. So
the President certainly could put out a social media post,
for instance, and just say to Pambondi, I think you
should just release the files right now, and it would
happen by the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now, going back back to that post pushing for Pam
Bondy to take a look at at people like Bill Clinton,
that follows the Department of Justice saying an Attorney General Pambondi,
n FBI director Cash Betel saying a few months ago
that they looked and there was nothing to predicate an

(02:20):
investigation like that.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, that's the word that she used, predicate, And so
it seems to me as if this is a fool's
errand to go down this road. But in any case,
the President has ordered Pambondi to essentially redo an investigation
to come out with a different type of conclusion as
it relates to Bill Clinton and Larry Summers and perhaps others.

(02:46):
President also mentioning JP Morgan Chase, the commercial bank based
in New York City. So now, I don't think that
the president's social media post last night urging a House
Republicans to support the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files
in any way impacts his other social media posts that
he put out last week urging Pam Bondi to investigate

(03:09):
those very high profile Democrats.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Last question for you, real quick, could this become a
situation where you have the Department of Justice going along
with the President saying all right, we'll investigate, and then
because they're investigating people like Bill Clinton Larry Summers, then
they say, well, now we can't turn things over because
this is an active investigation.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Absolutely, yes, you know, the case was closed, so that
means it would if the case is closed according to
Pambondi nothing to look into. Then the House Oversite Committee
could essentially say to Pambondi, Hey, the case is closed,
we'd like to have those files please. Now with the
case being reopened, they have a reason to say to

(03:54):
James Comerton, can't do it because we are now in
the midst of an ongoing investigation and these files require
us to hold on to them while we continue on
with this investigation.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Ryan, this is going to be a fascinating stretch here.
John Decker, our White House correspondent with us this morning. John,
thanks so much, appreciate it. Thank you, and don't forget.
You can get the latest from John every day. The
White House Briefing Room podcast is on your iHeartRadio app.
Make sure to check that out. Over the weekend, Marjorie
Taylor Green posted that she and members of her family

(04:27):
had been receiving repeated hoax pizza deliveries to their homes
and that there have been a pipe bomb threat directed
at her construction company offices. She linked the threats directly
to President Trump and a social media posts where he
called her a trader.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
He called me a trader, and that is so extremely wrong.
And those are the types of words use that can
radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Green says Trump's comments are a dog whistle quote. This
puts blood in the water and creates a feeding frenzy,
and it could ultimately lead to a harmful or even
deadly outcome. Now certainly interesting to see Marjorie Taylor Green
call someone out for inflammatory rudder, considering that's been her
brand since she first burst onto the scene, and she

(05:17):
was actually asked about that yesterday morning during an interview
with Dana Bash on CNN.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Dana, I think that's fair criticism, and I would like
to say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in the
toxic politics. It's very bad for our country, and it's
been something I've thought about a lot, especially since Charlie
Kirk was assassinated.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I mean, if you think about how this would have
played out in the old days, and I'm talking about
just you know, a few months ago, Green would have
attacked DNA Bash, she would have attacked the NN, she
would attack the mainstream media, and then she would have
raised a ton of money off of all of it.
Now she's like the voice of reason, which I got
to say I didn't have on my twenty twenty five
bing card. Maybe it's all to help sell her memoir.

(06:03):
Maybe it's because she wants to run for a higher officer.
Maybe the Charlie Kirk assassination really did help her see
the error of her ways. But it is quite the
transformation that has taking place right before our eyes. Let's
bring in our national correspondent, Rory O'Neil, who supports Bronte
by Mark Spain real estate. So Rory lontanews over the weekend.
Let's start with this public breakup between Marjorie Taylor Green

(06:26):
and President Trump. This is like Tom Brady and Gizelle
breaking up. I mean, you had the perfect political couple
and now it appears to be over.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
About bridget keep me going on. She was the first, yeah,
and then Giselle's gone. Now anyway, Yes, this has been remarkable, right.
Marjorie Taylor Green longest supporter of Donald Trump, but seemed
to be divided on this issue of the Epstein files.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
And there are a few other things that you know.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Marjorie Taylor Green would say she wanted Donald Trump to
be in the US more focus on the US more.
She wanted to park Air Force one and have the
President only focused on working from Washington, but it's been
a remarkable breakdown of their relationship these past couple of weeks,
and namely over these files. But even more remarkable was

(07:15):
the President last night essentially coming around to her point
of view on the Epstein files and saying, go ahead
and release them.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
I've got nothing to hide.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I do feel like Marjorie Taylor Green has been extremely
consistent in her views, especially as a proponent of the
America First agenda. She's basically pushed back to the President
spending so much time on foreign policy issues, and then

(07:43):
she's also talked about Republicans not having a plan on healthcare,
which they don't. They're they're I guess working on it
right now, and then making sure that affordability is a
top issue that's addressed by the administration and Congress, and
then the Epstein file, saying this was part of the
Trump's promise when he ran back in twenty twenty four,

(08:06):
and especially you know other members of his administration Pam Bondi,
Cash Bettel, Dan Mangino, that they would be transparent about this.
So you know, anytime you go up against Trump, you're
gonna get blowback. But it's hard to find an area
where Marjorie Taylor Green has been wrong in all of this.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, you know, you to look at her positions on
Ukraine and you're not funding that war, and her point
about the Republican leadership not having any other alternative to
the Obamacare, and you know, her disappointment in the government
shutdown and frustration I think is probably a better word,
and it really was.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
I think we can really date back this breakup to.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
The to the shutdown that really was, you know, the
yarn that got pulled and started to undo.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
The whole sweater there. So yeah, we'll see if this
can come back.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I think it's pretty remarkable the way that the President
has changed his opinion on the files. Essentially it looks
like he's going to lose tomorrow, so instead he's joining
the winning team to say, oh, this is what I
told you to do.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
All along, right, getting out in front of it. And
then going back to Marjorie Taylor Green. I don't know
what to make of her. If she didn't have a
memoir out that she was trying to sell, then I'd
probably be more open to this new version of Marjorie
Taylor Green. I'm a little skeptical still. She was asked

(09:30):
by Danni Bash on CNN, Hey, you are complaining about
President Trump's rhetoric directed towards you and your family and
the impact that it's having and the death threats that
you're getting in all of that. But that's the same
kind of rhetoric that you've been tossing around, you know,
since you burst onto the scene, and she took ownership

(09:51):
of it and apologize for it.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
So credit where credits due, I do. I mean, I'm
really trying. I'm focusing, like right out loud.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, I know it was a little soft pedal, but
you know, or is this the effort that she wants
to be the VP campaign on whatever the next Republican
ticket is.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Is it a JD MTG ticket coming up?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I don't know what to make of it, but I
think it is fascinating to watch. I did not have
this on my BINGO card for twenty twenty five. It
was also interesting seeing the president try to workshop some
nicknames for her. Marjorie Trader green I think that's the
one that he has landed on.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
The other one was Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Brown green Grass
turns brown when it begins to rot if you got
to explain it, it's not working.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's not gonna work. Right, Yeah, I mean see, that's
that's what you get from a golfer, right, always out. Yes, Well,
he knows a lot about grass. He's talked about, you know,
fixing the grass in DC. But MTG. Marjorie Trader Green,
I think that's the name he's going to stick with.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
That's the good one.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, all right, let's get to She also has been
a bunch of a trader, but ahead, no, no, that's
what I was saying earlier. I mean, she's been pretty
consistent with her positions. But look, if you cross Trump
in any way, it doesn't matter about positions your trader.
That's how it works. We're joined by our national corsepunder
Roy O'Neil. I want to talk about this hemp band

(11:16):
story because this was a real Mitch McConnell special. It
looks like kind of snuck this right into the bill
that ended the government shutdown. A lot of people didn't
realize this was happening. Has a big impact on Florida.
More than ten billion dollars in hemp sales here in
the state and over one hundred thousand jobs tied to them.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, right, so twenty eighteen they passed the Farm Bill, Right,
it's the champion by Mitch McConnell. It is about promoting
hemp rope and textiles and seeds. But there's a loophole
in there that creates this whole THCHC industry and it's
grown so fast in just the past few years. Vape
shops everywhere selling vapes and drinks and gummies and all

(11:56):
that stuff. But now they snuck into this bill to
reopen the government a measure that closes that loophole. So
now thhd will be capped at point four milligrams, which
is like nothing. You know, a single gummy has two
point five to ten milligrams, so this would have to
be a point four milligrams of total THHC per container.

(12:17):
So it really does shut down the industry when it
takes effect next year. The thirty billion dollar hemp industry
is now trying to you know, do lobby as they
can and try to get some of this to open
back up again, highlighting what you did. What an economic
engine this is becoming a short time.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, and it's just weird how that got snuck into
that bill. Kind of like that ability for some senators
to sue, you know, from five hundred thousand dollars over
phone records and things like that that got snuck in
there too. Our national correspondent Rory O'Neil with US this morning. Rory,
appreciate the update. Thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Thanks Ryan.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I thought this was really interesting and pretty important too.
It's one of those stories that kind of flew under
the radar late last week. Forward has about five thousand
mechanic openings that it can't fill, even while offering salaries
of around one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year.
CEO Jim Farley says it signals a broader shortage of

(13:14):
skilled trade workers across the country, and he's warning that
the US is facing more than a million open jobs
in areas like manufacturing, and one of the problems they're
dealing with is that it takes about five years to
learn the skills needed to work on modern vehicles, and
trade schools can't keep up. And you got baby boomers

(13:35):
retiring faster than younger workers are replacing them. So it's
creating this huge problem and I think why this really matters,
you know, one of the main goals of the Trump
administration right now is to bring jobs back to the US,
especially manufacturing jobs. And on its face, that sounds like
a positive initiative for an administration to take on, right

(13:58):
but and I brought this quite a bit when the
President rolled out as planned. We already had a worker
shortage in manufacturing before. And so at some point, if
you have these companies and they can't hire enough workers
here to do the jobs that they need filled, like
right now, then they're going to have to make tough decisions.

(14:21):
I mean, do they just take the hit on tariffs
in order to get the workforce that they can find overseas,
or do they just scale back because they are here
in the US but can't get the workers to ramp
up production like they want to. So that's something to
keep an eye on moving forward, especially again as the
administration tries to bring even more of those kinds of

(14:44):
jobs back to the US when we already have this
major shortage.
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