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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey, thanks for being with us. It's the JV and
Sandy Show. My name is Sandy. This is JV. Hello,
Trisha's here too. Hi everybody, and we are off and running.
I've recently discovered, you know, there's certain groups in Austin,
Texas that you just don't want to get on your
bad side, you know what I mean? Some groups forever
it was the Save our Springs people. They've all seemed
to have aged out of that, and I don't know,
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maybe they're still a force, but they did a lot
of good work in Austin. But I've recently discovered you
do not want to get on the bad side of
the Barton Springs swimmers.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh down, the free evening swim exactly the old school,
Go get them.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
They are mad as hell about this. The city is
changing Barton Spring hours, most notably eliminating the free swim
after a clock and people around forever yeah, I mean,
people are growing nuts. In the comments section about this,
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I mean, they're really kind of mad that they just
did it without any public conversation. We need to push back.
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's like everything is turned to paid parking on every
inch of Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
They're gouging us everywhere they can.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, and it's like we've been the fastest growing city
in America for like twenty years.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Shouldn't we have a surplus of fund Yeah? Sorts true?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
If they're I mean, if we're if we're struggling financially,
how is there any hope for any other city in America?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
True? Very true? And they got a nickel and dimia.
Now that's that's the part that people hate it. And
the precedent has been set forever that it was a
free swim after nine o'clock. And one of these guys
in the comments made a really good point. He said,
they at least need to explain the logic because without lifeguards,
they have what one or two staff sitting in the
guardhouse until everyone leaves at ten o'clock. So it's not
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like they're saving significant money.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right right. I mean, it's the cost.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Exactly, and it's kind of one of those things that's
just there's a lot of things that make Austin cool,
but stuff like that's one of them, and that's they're
a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know, maybe we should just start swimming in Ladybird Lake. Screws.
I don't think we should try that.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We talked about that when I was on the Austin
Found podcast with Michael Barnes. Yeah, and it that whole
rule about no swimming and what was then Town Lake
was only passed because there were two young girls that
drown really in a like in the late sixties or
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early seventies or something like that. I think it was
the late sixties and that was the only reason it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Because of water quality. No, interesting, I didn't mean there
were that lake was full of people swimming on Memorial Day. Yeah,
paddle borders. Did anyone die?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
People aren't falling, not falling off their paddle boards. And
let's just take the lake. Let's start to take the lake.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Campaign, all right. So this is our second campaign because
our first campaign was, uh, make South Congress sleazy right
to being Sey. Yeah, go back to make make South come.
And now we've got to take the lake. We take it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Starting a list of campaigns here we go.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
The thing with this after hours Barton Creek, bart and
Spring saying is I feel like it's a very small
number of people who actually do do it after night.
It's like it's a large But those people, if they
get loud enough and are rabid enough about this, they
will they will make the city be like Okay, hold on,
maybe not, you know what I mean, doesn't have to
be a giant group.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And by the way, Barton Springs, I don't have the
numbers to back this up, but it's gotta be the
biggest money making public pool in the city in right country.
I mean it's goin to be.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I mean it's I mean, did you see the
line to get in there on the weekends, because packed,
I've never seen it the frenzy to get in there
on the weekends in my whole life in Austin like
it has been in the last year or two.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah. I'm just reading more of the comments. So Jimmy,
maybe you should reach out there. Someone says, I'm a
reporter with KUT. I'm working on a story about the
changes an impact on Austinit's would you be willing to
share your thoughts with us? Yeah, but it's probably not
gonna like what I have to say so, but they're
fired up and this is one of those things that
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will people will glom onto. Even if they have been
to Barton Springs in ten years, they still wanted to
stay the same that it is.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It's another example of what we talked about last week.
People don't don't do it like knowing it's there. As
soon as they hear that it's getting shut down, they
get all up in arms.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm trying to remember. You probably know trishap did. Wasn't
it always a free swim before a certain time in
the morning too, like until nine am or something.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yes, that is not changing, by the way, five am
to nine am, I believe. Here's the post that they
put outside of the park. Bart And Springs hours are
changing as of June first, so that went into effect
on Sunday. Barton Springs will now close every day at
nine pm except Thursday. Spartan Srings will close at nine
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am on Thursday. New hours every day except Thursday five
to nine Swim at your own risk five to eight.
Thursday hours closed for cleaning nine to ten pm. Swim
at your own risk five am to nine am, close
throw cleaning what are they doing.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I think it's like algae control.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think they literally rubbing the rocks and the sides
and stuff yat This will be.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Fun to follow though, see what happens. You need a
good old fashioned Austin fight, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think that's the take back the Lake as an
example of that.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What are we going to like chain ourselves into our
our tubes across the lake like cold hands.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Chains and lakes. This is a good idea with.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
This inner tubes kind of lock lock inner tubes across
the lake. Yeah, it would be pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Actually all protest, but I need somebody to be able
to bring in snacks. I mean, we're gonna have some
snacks involved in a protest. Those can get drawn out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, just need your cool. You're not no bathroom breaks
when you're out there?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
No not not why you're in an inner tube? No,
no need.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean I'm trying to picture if people just like
in protests, just especially on like on the Asi Morton's side,
you can just on the fence, right.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I feel like, don't they have like not razor wire
like a prison?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But I have to I feel like they have the
fence somehow.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
People would go.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Any kids would be doing it all the time, late
at night, so maybe it's pretty secure.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
It's one of my favorite stories. JB. You told the story,
but I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll tell.
But there was a during ACL there was a group
from Europe that came over to kind of study how
festivals in the United States were conducted and security and
how it was done. And they walked up to Zilker
Park and the only thing keeping the crowds out was
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just this temporary cyclone fence chain leak fence that was
up there, and they're like, this is it really this
keeps people from They were like in Europe they would
just knock this over.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Especially like the English and the Irish from the UK. Yeah,
they would just rip it down heartbeat and just go in.
I can't believe that's never happened. I can't either. I know,
of right, I can't either.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So anyway, Big Deals at Barton Springs coming up on
the show, Tricia has the story we love What do
you have for us?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
We are going to talk about this new program that
they're talking about for I thirty five, the Cap.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And Stitch program.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Have you heard of it, Sandy, No, Captain Stitch sounds
like a kid's cartoon.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It does like Leland stage.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
No, it's this crazy improvement proposal that they have for
sub stretch and eight mile stretch of H thirty five.
It sounds super cool. All right, we will never be
alive to see it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'd stay with us. Tricia's got the details coming up.
It's the JB and Sandy Show, and you can now
save us as a preset on the iHeartRadio app. It's
Austin's aid station on OH three point one. Improvements coming
to I thirty five, or as Tricia says, she's the
only one that says I H thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Five thirty five come on.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Trisia's got it for us in the story we love
in just a moment, But Tricia, You're probably not gonna
be able to be a part of this conversation. But
so I'm gonna direct it towards JB. You'll see why
in just a moment, JB, do you feel aied out yet?
You feel AI fatigue? Yet? Of all the different options
of AI, the reason I bring it up consuming it
(09:00):
or using it being recommended, like the reason that the
thing that set me off is you know, unlike everyone else,
I've got a Microsoft account where you get word and
all that stuff. Right, every time I go to open
a new document and ask me to use copilot, and
every time I say no, I'm like, if AI was
so smart, you'd figured it out by now that I
(09:21):
don't want to use copilot, right, It's just another thing.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I know I have.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's funny you mentioned that I was looking at like
rocket money recently and I'm paying I've got subscription fatigue. Yeah,
just just like I did with you know, Hulu and
Netflix and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I've got it with all these AI tools.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now some of them I use for work, some for convenience,
like grammarly is helpful. But it's just out of control,
Like how many are you paying for? I'm paying for
like five or six.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm playing for one, two, three, probably four and one
of them on a cancel today. Thanks for a reminder. Yeah,
So it's just it's too much. It's like I don't
want to use I'm already using one. I don't need
this one, so stop asking me if I want.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, it's it's weird because it when they opened AI
basically it was a it was a wild West flood.
Normally new apps trickle out, you're like, oh, have you
seen this new app? And with AI, there's all of
a sudden fifty in the same category right right.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's like Chad Gpt just opened the floodgates for people
that were in this and we didn't even know they
were working on it, right right, So just bonkers great
to do the news, tresh I'm ready, let's do it.
The stories wheelah and.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Now live in the left for whole studio. Here's Tristia Delicia.
All right.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
So a little while back, a few months back, the
city Council approved a funding agreement with Austin City with
Austin and the Texas Department of Transportation for something called
that I thirty five Cap and Stitch program. They're basically
going to do a study to see what would happen,
how much it might cost, how if we actually can
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do this or not for an eight mile stretch of
I thirty five where they are going to be lowering
the upper decks, bringing them down to ground level. They're
going to be taking some other lanes and sinking them down,
and then they're going to be covering some of these
lanes with overpasses covered in greenery like plaza type areas,
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places where you can go and hang out, green spaces, pavilions,
public art and cultural facilities all above the new sunken
highways that they're going to put in. Trying to update
and make thirty five a place where people want to
go hang out.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, I've got a lot to say on this,
well one that I've seen where they've done some of
this in Dallas. It looks nice, and Dallas is not
a very attractive city compared to Boston. Just visually it
looks really good. But historically in Austin before I thirty
five in nineteen fifty, gather around, kids, I'm gonna share
a story.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Light the fire, Uncle JB's storytime.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now that Uncle JB. I gotta go to the bathroom first.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hurry up, Sandy, everyone's waiting. Bring back another bowl of popcorn.
So before I thirty five and nineteen fifty, that was
called East Side Drive, and it was exactly what you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Described, Tricia.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It was an open marketplace, it was and it was
a melting pot of all different ethnicities. I mean, there
were Germans, Czech, Lebanese, Mexican, I mean everything. African Americans
all cohabitating, all with these mom and pop shops, and
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there's there's some I won't go too deep into it,
but there is some old historical racism that moved more.
It's definitely all the most of the African Americans from
West Austin to East Austin. Then they slap in this highway,
this ugly highway.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
It literally divided the city, like literally by race, divided
the city overnight, and that perpetuated until pretty recently, I think,
you know, and I know we talked about it on
the radio years and years.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Ago how significant it was when they put in the
boardwalk on the water under thirty five. Do you remember
talking about that, Sandy, Yeah, yeah, I was like, this
is bridging back East and West Austin. And I've seen
it over the years, like it's just you know, it's
like people out running and walking just connecting both sides
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and all the growth in East Austin. You know, it's
coming together.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah. But the people that are the people that had
divided back in nineteen fifty, they don't live in East
Austin anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I know a lot of them have been gentrified runoff
right exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So, based on the people that I know right now
that live in East Austin, I'm okay with it being debt.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Connect.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Keep the hipsters with their man buns and their white claws,
scooters and their scooters over there, you know on that side,
that's fine with Keep those sissies over there.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And oh god, with their big mustaches, Yeah, with their
big yess exactly, they stay over there.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
See you're not on board with the cap stitch program.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Well, here's the thing. We're never We're never going to
see it. We're gonna be dead.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, this is just between now and by the end
of twenty twenty six. It's like a couple million dollars
just to see if this is something that we can do,
just to study it, and then it's I think total
all in all. If they're like, Yep, we like this, Yep,
we're going to pay for these designs, and then yep,
we're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean, it's close to lake a billion based.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
On past experience of expansion of roadways in Austin and stuff.
Remember they added a lane to Mopaq, you know, the
toll lane that they've now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They're change your world at all.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Here.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's exactly where I'm going with this. Whatever you're doing,
it's too small.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Because by the time you're done, we've outgrown it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Exactly. Whatever you are doing, it is too small, so
bigger than you can imagine.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, we're in a situation like a lot of people
at a certain point of running into this where they
want to improve their house and then a builder, an
architect and builder and come in and go, you know,
you're really better off just to scrape it to the
ground and start over.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, and that happens a lot. Yeah, Austin's at that point.
I think we just need to scrap the whole thing
start for new, start.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Over with the roads or the buildings are both a little.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Bit of everything.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, kind of clean it out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
We just I mean, you ever go to someone's house
where they just kept adding on, adding on, adding on, and.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
It's just joint.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, that's what we got here.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
I think with thirty five, I think that there is
nothing that can be done to make it better, easier
to travel. So they're like, let's just try and make
it pretty. I feel like that's where they are. We
can't expand out anymore. We've tried going up, people get
stuck on the upper decks. I feel like they're like, well,
let's least at least just make it attractive so people
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aren't quite anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You can add green ory over concrete.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Great, when you're sitting in your car underneath the concrete,
it's not going to look that pretty, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Like, I don't know. I feel like it's just a
last ditch effort for this.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh how long when did they It'll be twenty twenty
what before they know? The study?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
The study is going to be done, and then the
next sphase decided on at the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Remember when you were a kid, you're playing in the
park and your ball rolls out in the street.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This takes it to a whole new level.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And that's the one thing I've taught our daughter is
she's learning how to drive, is if there's a ball
in the street in front of you, there is a
kid behind it. Yeah, so dight hit the brakes because
you don't want to hit the kid. So that is
the story we love. He's JB. That's Tricia. My name
is Sandy Moore, coming up on Austin's eighties station one
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