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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael The's writings from California from well over one hundred
years ago just makes me think of one thing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Ecclesiast is the Book of Ecclesiastes.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
There are nothing new under this up.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
One of my favorite sayings on this program, I don't think,
and I apologize if I well, actually I don't apologize
because I still think it's important for you to know.
I don't think I've talked much about Greenland. Greenland and
Trump's attempts to purchase it, take it over, seize it.
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I don't know, occupy it whatever he wants to do.
But I talked about it on the Saturday program, and
I was surprised the number of text messages that I
received that people didn't really know much about our or
the history of World War two. And man, bless my
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granddaughter's heart, but we had dinner last night and I
she she casually mentioned. I forget how it came up,
but she somehow the Holocaust came up, and she said, oh, yeah,
I'm studying I'm studying World War two in history right now,
and so the Holocaust is part of that. Now, I
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want to say, what did you hear about Greenland that
you know I'm sure the last thing she wants is
a history lesson from Granddad, from Grandpoo. When the Nazi
Germany started to tighten its grip on Europe, Denmark, who
at the time now Denmark, still has this kind of
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for lack of a better term, overseer role with Greenland.
Well back, when Nazi Germany began to tighten its grip
on Europe, Denmark fell silent. The United States stepped in,
not as a conqueror, but as a caretaker of Greenland.
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It filled a vacuum that was left by Denmark's incapacitation
by the Nazis. Quite frankly, in April nineteen forty, to
put it pretty bluntly, Denmark discapitulated to the Nazis, did
so in six hours or less, and so then Greenland
was just kind of left adrift. It was a geopolitical
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orphan during World War Two. At the time it had
a population of about eighteen thousand. Escae Brun, who was
Greenland's governor, made the shrewd choice to align itself with
the Allies, and then while Denmark was collaborating with the
occupiers the Nazis, Greenland became a free agent on the
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world stage. Well, Roosevelt recognized the strategic importance as a
stepping a step stone across the Atlantic and started building
and made it as a base for weather stations. They
were absolutely vital to the convoys that were crossing the
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Atlantic at the time to help the Allies, So we
seized the initiative, so to speak. Then Roosevelt authorized a
military occupation of Greenland under the nineteen forty one Greenland
Agreement that was broker by a Danish envoy, and it
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was actually an act of defiance that came at great
personal cost to him because as Denmark was under Nazi occupation,
they were actually adopting a policy of collaboration to maintain
their own domestic stability. So this Danish envoys actions, his
unilateral decision to side with the Allies was deemed treasonous
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by his homeland, and by bypassing Copenhagen, which was effectively
under Nazi control, this Danish envoy ensured that Greenland would
serve as an Allied stronghold rather than fall into the
hands of the Nazis or the Axes.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It was a really bold move.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Which obviously outraged the Nazis, but at also at the
same time embarrassed Denmark's collaboration with the Nazis. Then Denmark
kind of embarked on this attempt to maintain a you know,
a front facing forward look of well, we're still sovereign
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despite it actually being subservient to Berlin. So Kaufman, who
was the Danish envoy who hosted or who negotiated this
US military occupation of Greenland that helped boster the fight
against the Nazis. Now Greenland wasn't just a slab of ice,
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it was a fortress. It was a gateway. And I
assume you know that the military bases that we established
during World War Two, and the weather stations and everything
else that we established during World War two are still
acting to this day. They're still there. So that underscores
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Greenland's strategic significance not just for our relationship with Europe,
but for the Arctic, in which the Russians are making swift,
significant moves to overtake the Arctic, and once again American
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foreign policy, particularly under Joe Biden, but going back even
before Joe Biden, I did not realize, but during the
first Trump administration, Trump was already making to Greenland because
he saw what the Russians were doing in the Arctic,
and thought, wait a minute, we need to establish a
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base somewhere, and so maybe we have to start negotiations
with Greenland about either occupying it, buying it, leasing it,
purchasing it, taking it over, doing something, because that would
help steymy or at least slow down Russia's occupation of
the Arctic. That's the story that only when I started
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digging into this idea about why is Greenland so important
did any of the history of what Trump was doing
the first administration come to light. So what happened is
the Cold War kind of telescope. Greenland's importance to US.
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Its position made it a bulwark against Soviet ambitious ambitions
in the Arctic, which are ongoing today. So fast forward
to today. Denmark says that Greenland possesses the right to
declare full independence, yet it forbids Greenland from ever joining
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the United States. Well, I suppose if I wanted to
play we'se old lawyer words here, independence is different than
if Denmark says that Greenland has the inherent right on
its own to declare its full independence. Why couldn't they
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declare their independence by saying we went to align with
the United States. We want to become the fifty first state,
or we want to become a territory, whatever they want
to do, you know, some hybrid. I don't care, but
I think we ought to, indeed, somehow figure out a
way to make Greenland really a part of this country.
So I think Trump's got a point. It will be
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interesting to see if there is a at least a
wider recognition among the political class that behind Trump's, you know,
statement about Greenland, that there really is an implicit rebuke
of UK and European security policy which is beginning to
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flounder at the best, perhaps perhaps one actually tied to
the way he understands the China challenge, but also one which,
if taken in the right spirit, could help put some
really flesh on the bones of a debate around defense spending,
which has been lost down the somewhat blind alley of
percentages of GDP. When he starts talking about NATO, it's
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really more than just the dollar amount that NATO and
our European allies are spending on defense, but it's really
more about are they becoming And this is just my
speculation that as Russia flexes its muscles in the Ukraine.
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Is the rest of Europe, who initially was like, oh man,
we're gong ho, We're not gonna let Russia do anything here,
has instead the continent become more like Denmark in World
War Two, and rather than stand up and spend more
money do the strategic military things that need to be
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done to protect itself. I think they are a lot
like a lot like homelessness in this country, where it's
just easier to remain homeless than it is because, you know,
we make it easy to be homeless in this country.
We provide all sorts of services. It's really easy to
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be an illegal alien in this country. We provide all
sorts of services. And then they become dependent upon it
and they never get off that dependency. Well, I think
Europe to some degree has become dependent upon US military protection,
and so they've let their percentage of GDP if they
spend on military drop. But I also think it has
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been an attitudinal problem. Europe itself has become like, eh,
you know, and do we really want we don't want
to do anything that might provoke a world war. We don't,
and of course nobody wants to do that, but they
want to almost do it almost in terms I'm not
saying they are, but almost in terms of appeasement. In
so many ways, I think the Trump's perception of US
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security is actually affected by Greenland. Where As ice caps
trade routes open up because of the climate changing, China
and Russia are starting to jostle for a strategic advantage,
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and as the Brits kind of back off and they've
got their own internal political problems. Maybe Trump's got a
point here. During the Cold War, the Greenland Iceland UK
agreements was crucial to the United Kingdom's maritime posture, and
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the central plank of the UK's grand strategy has almost
entirely now disappeared from our discussion around security.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
We used to be tied at the hip in terms of.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
How we would align ourselves with each other, and now
you get to wear the current Strategic Defense review that's
being led by the former NATO Secretary General. I don't
really consider correcting that. I think that these nods to
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NATO as the bedrock of our security back after World
War Two ought to remain in place. And I think
Trump is right. But and I know that when Trump
talks about you need to increase your the percentage of
your GDP spending because we're tired of carrying the load.
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He's right, but I wish you'd take it one step further.
And I think that maybe what he's doing with Greenland,
he's saying to them in a subtle way, which is
unusual for Trump. You know, we recognize the importance of
Greenland as a strategic point to keep at bay China
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and Russia in the Arctic and quite frankly in Europe
as they continue to make all of these moves while
you over here continue to allow your defense spending to
become less and less as a percentage of your GDP,
and you become more and more reliant upon you. Well,
guess what, maybe I'll just buy Greenland. And then when
asked if you'd be willing to use, you know, military
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intervention to do so, he's like, well, you know, nothing's
off the table, Durma kind of an off the cuff remark. Well,
those the nub of Trump's come when you think about
how many parts of the world are beginning to tilt
to the Indo Pacific and away from the North Atlantic.
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Well as we tilt away from the North Atlantic to
the Indo Pacific, Russia starts making its moves. Now, I
also believe that Russia made its moves because they saw
Joe Biden as a weak sister that wouldn't do anything,
and that eventually I think Dragon, you and I may
have talked about this at one point, how we are
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unwilling to fight a war. When you think about that,
you and me having this conversation, we talked a little
bit off air last week that I don't believe that
the American population has the.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Stomach for what a world war might look like when
you there was.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
A story that broke over the weekend about the Ukrainians
have captured and it's now been authenticated a diary of
a North Korean soldier who talked about their strategy, and
their strategy is they're just pounds of human flesh that
are being pushed forward to take the brunt of the
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Ukraine defense forces while Russia tries to preserve and move
its forces in behind them. They're just being put up
there just to be slaughtered so that they can make
their inch by inch move. So I think if Americans
read that story and they saw some of the footage
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of you know, go look, so this war has been
going on for almost three years now, and you look
at how much territory the Russians have gained, it's little
of any at all. And then you look at the
hundreds of thousands, if not more, that have been killed
in trench warfare. I'm not sure Americans have the stomach
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for that, but Putin's willing to do it, and he's
willing to and he's able to get by with it
domestically because obviously they control the media there, so not
much as being talked about. And now he's got the
cover of Kim Jong un sending in thousands of troops
to provide cover for his troops so that he doesn't
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have to start imposing a mandatory conscript, a mandatory draft
to start taking more you know, Russian boys, you know,
away from work, away from school, away from their homes
to go fight this battle. So there's there's this stalemate. Well,
Trump's playing three dimensional chess because he sees how Europe
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is acting week because as the Russia Ukraine war has
dragged out, Germany, France, the UK are beginning to we
don't know about this so much anymore. Okay, Well, I'm
gonna buy Greenland, r I'm gonna invade Greenland, and you
guys need to start paying more. And apparently they're already
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working on scheduling a meeting between Putin and Trump, which
tells me that Trump must just be a puppet of Putin. Right, No,
of course I'm being sarcastic. It's basically Trump saying, look,
I'm sick of this and I'm want to sit down
with you and figure out a way to do something.
Do you know that Biden and Putin have not spoken
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at all during his tenure, Not at all, So of
course Putin's gonna do everything that he can do, which
brings us back to Greenland. A commitment to the North
Atlantic means more than just a percentage spend on GDP.
It means that we need to reiterate, and the United Kingdom,
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and that matter, all of NATO needs to reiterate their
commitment to the Greenland, to the United Kingdom Agreement, and
to capabilities like additional frigates, maritime patrol, aircraft, anti submarine
warfare helicopters that always been the maintain the UK defense industry.
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We need that in all of Europe and we need
that in Greenland too. So I think what Trump's doing
here is a brilliant move. So I think he's got
a pretty good point about Greenland. And it's also kind
of a slap to the NATO allies. And you're not
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willing to do the tough decisions that need to be
done to keep these enemies at bay.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. This is your favorite juguber.
And I know what caused the fire called the cow farts.
The cow farts is what caused the fire. Had a
good week?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Cal farts or cal farts, Like I think there's a
whole department called, you know, cal fart designed to regulate
cal farts. So don't believe me that this was a
whole conversation that took place during the first Trump administration.
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Last week, Larry Cudlow, I forget. I think he was
just talking on this show in Fox Business said.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This Greenlyn, the Panama Canal. Trump has his eyes on
some big deals and tariffs could be his leverage. Is
this America first in action? Larry Huddlo thinks, so he's
a host of Cuddlow. He's here now. You know, I
never thought in my life I talked with you about
acquiring Greenland. But this is how Trump changes the conversation,
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and it's kind of just Monroe doctrine two point zero
things tell us where the way England.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The conversation is not entirely not new.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It popped up in the first now I know it
was there, but we haven't talked about this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I was a big supporter of buying Greenland. We just
the clock ran out. President loved the idea. But more
to the point, what he's doing is defining core interests
of the United States, core national security interests. Greenland is
a very important place. Not just it does have a
lot of rare earth minerals, yes, but China nos And
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around Greenland, Russia nos and around Greenland.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, we have a big air force base there.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But the Arctic Battle is a strategic battle, and that's
why Greenland plays such an important role. And it's interesting
that so many I mean, he's only about forty fifty
sixty thousand maybe people who live there, but they like
their own independence. And you don't have to buy it.
You can make a strategic alliance for trade and investment
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and so.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Those kind of think and economics. I mean, it seems
like a no brainer. I think so.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And you know what mister Trump is doing is he's
he's running it down. Look now we're talking about the
western hemisphere and the Monroe Doctrine, which was done two
hundred years ago. John Quincy Adams codified what was then
called the Monroe Doctrine.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Codified into a law.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You have you cannot let China run both ends of
the Panama Canal.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Absolutely right, But what are Here's where everybody else is
missing the boat.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Listen to Elizabeth Warren if I want.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
To make a second point, and that is why is
Donald Trump doing this?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Now?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
I think the answer is, let's have a big distraction
and several more questions so we don't spend more time
on Pete hegg Sith, the nominee to be the head
of the Department of Defense, so we don't spend more
time on Tulsey Gabbard, who has been in the pocket.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Of See, they don't get nor do they care about
any sort of global strategy, global alliance.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, they are the global buss, whereas Trump still
is truly the America first, and he's all about our
own national security. In a fascinating conversation with the former
ambassador to Denmark, he says this over at MSNBC.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Thank you so much for having me. All right, ambassador,
have at it. I want your reaction to.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
What you just heard from Vice President elect jd Vance.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Look, I'm extremely obviously.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Look, I have a unique perspective here, having been ambassador
to Denmark. I am one of the few Americans. I've
been to Greenland nine times, nine times more than Donald Trump,
nine times more than Jada.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
You don't need to be there to understand the strategic
importance of it. But Tamala Harris has never been to Europe,
that's right. Yeah, and she finally did go to the
border at one point.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Evance, I guess eight times now, more than Donald Trump Junior.
I think that Look, what is completely forgotten in this
conversation as a couple of things, Well, look, there is
a rich history and tradition that exists in Greenland, and
it is not simple. Obviously, the relationship between Denmark and
Greenland is centuries old now, and it is politically complicated,
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there's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And they want, yeah, you succumbed to the Nazis. You
left us adrift, and the people that came to protect
us was the United States of America.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Nothing more than to have a closer relationship to the
United States. We have had a close relationship with Greenland
over the years, both militarily as well as economically. They
would welcome further American investment, further American private investment in Greenland.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I know that for a fact.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
That is just demonstrably true. And certainly I think they'd
welcome further military engagement in American military engagement in Denmark
as well.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
But remember this, John Oh, and of course we want
more of that in Denmark also. Yeah, well you're still
strategically important to US, as is all of NATO. But yeah,
shun them one time, you might possibly shun them again.
So we would offer them a little more security than
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Denmark's able to do so. And I would just ask you,
would you rather have a partner that's the United States
of America under Donald Trump, or would you rather just
be on your own and have your partner be the
French or the Italians?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
And then I think the point that's forgotten here far
too often is that Greenland is NATO because Denmark, the
Kingdom of Denmark, is one of the founding members of NATO.
So all this talk about national security concerns visa the Greenland.
If there was any sort of invasion or incursion into Greenland,
the entire alliance would be compelled to respond.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
And that's factually correct. However, that misses the point entirely.
Let's shift the alliance, the Greenland Alliance, from Denmark to
the US, and quite personally, if that means we go
to the eleven, twelve, thirteen thousand inhabitants and say, hey,
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you want to referendum, you want to join the United
States as the fifty first state. Let's vote on it,
and you can become American taxpayers and we'll provide you
certain benefits, and we're going to bring in American exploration,
American businesses, and we're going to because it's a strategic partnership,
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it's a strategic purchase, it's a strategic alliance. It's not
about a land grab, it's not about colonialism's is, and
it's not about any of that stuff. It's about historically,
we understand what Denmark did with Greenland in World War Two,
and now that we've moved on from World War II
and that American world order is beginning to shift, there's
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one guy, Donald Trump, that understands that there's a new axis.
There's clearly a new axis. Russia is still a mainstay
of it, but now you have China, and then you've
got all the subsets of those two countries, which would
be at one time Syria. I'm not quite sure who
Syria is aligning with right now, but it's certainly not US.
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It may still be Putin. And you've got the Iranians
who are aligned with both China and the United States,
and you get all their subsidiaries. And what's Europe doing.
Europe's imploding at this time. So there's one giant land
mass with the very few inhabitants that's really important to
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our strategic defense. It's Greenland.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
And in many ways this is something we could go
through this issue by issue. But I just think everything
about the way that Donald Trump and JD. Vans are
talking about these kinds of issues just sort of divorce
the humanity that has existed, the sort of diplomatic humanity
that needs to exist in the I'm not quite.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Sure what he means by a diplomatic humanity. I think
he's just status quo. I think this yahoo is just
basically let's just leave everything away. To this because we
don't want to upset the album card. We don't want
to do anything differently. We want to keep going the
direction we've been going, which is the whole problem with
Europe right now. They want to keep going the same
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direction they're going, and that Europe is just literally disintegrating.
They're disintegrating because they're they're they've succumbed to the.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Equivalent of the Green New Deal.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
They've succumbed to appeasement, They've succumbed to you know, well,
they've succumbed to all of these things. Greenland hasn't done
that yet. And Greenland understands the historical perspective, They understand
the long term perspective these relationships.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
So Denmark is one of our longest allies, has lost
more folks, more lost more troops per capita in Afghanistan
than any other country in the world other than the
United States of America. And when you simply when you
do it, when you when you got, when you are,
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when your foreign policy is dictated by tweet and press conference,
you just lose.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
This is what I find hilarious and that I think
this is what most of us have learned in the
four intervening years between the last Trump administration, and that
is you know, the tweets and the press conferences and
all of that. That's where he throws the firebombs. That's
where he throws out the balloons. That's where he throws out, indeed,
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the distractions, because while they're all out there.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You know about it, what are they doing.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
They're quietly working in the background to establish the relationships,
to establish everything. So it keeps people like Elizabeth Warren,
and it keeps this former Danish ambassador completely off the mark,
completely missing the point. The meantime, one person who I
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think understands the three dimensional chess that Trump is playing
happens to be once again, John Fetterman.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Hey, senator, can.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
We ask you what you hope to get out of
your visit tomorrow Lago to talk to Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
What are we talking about here? Is there some news?
There's some news. We hear that you're going to be
heading down to mar A Lago. Uh, yeah, I've heard that. Yes,
I've heard that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Well, yeah, I demand that I need to be made
pope of Greenland.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Are you do you have the resume to be pope?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I'm having a conversation like he's the president.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's going to be. So you know, I am.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Not the senator for just Democrats in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'm everyone's senator in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
And so it's just having a conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
With with and they just mumble, mumble, jumble.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, I'm going down talking about being the Pope Greenland
and the reporter, well you have the do you have
the resume? Do you have the qualifications to be the
popa Greenland? Totally and completely missing the point. All everybody's
talking about is these huge buyers out in California, and
everybody's overlooking one thing, mud slides.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Oh yeah that's coming to Yeah, Yeah, that's scheduled for
next week.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yes, you need to get the new calendar. You're still
working off the old calendar. And that'll be climate change too. Yes,
so when the rains come, there won't be any reservoirs
to catch the runoff. It'll just go down the valleys
and through all that debris and create a huge freaking mess.
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So there is there's a method I believe to Trump's madness.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And there was a.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Old Wall Street Journal editorial. Let me see if I
can find it real quickly. Alexander Gray, who served as
chief of staff on the Trump White House National Security Council,
told the Wall Street Journal of this, what Trump is
trying to do is reinvigorate this focus on what are
the outer boundaries of the Western hemisphere and then defending
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that against these great power competitors. So all of this
is aimed at gaining American leverage over a shifting world.
And that's really not different, if different at all, than
what happened in Argentina.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
If you think about.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
What happened down there in Argentina, remember when we remember
in this in this video clip where President Ave and
Milieu is seen walking past the wall on which are
penned the names all these different government agencies, and one
after the next, he just walks by, reaches out, rips
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it off a slip of paper, and shouts Office of
Economic Redundancy out offosite, Climate Fabrication, out officsite, walk insanity out.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Well.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I think the point is that, like Milu, Trump was
elected not to preserve the status quo, but to reshape, remake,
and redo the status quo in this country. When people
talk about the peaceful transfer of power, I think they
often mistake that to mean the power to keep things
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exactly as they are. And that's not what Trump two
point zero is about. Because this wasn't a regular election.
This was an election that was a call for a
democratically ordered revolution. The usual procedure in the past has
always been the old crowd packs up, like it described
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in the first hour, They pack up all their belongings.
They pack up their staples, staplers, and their you know,
their pictures off their desk and all the stuff they've accumulated,
and they put it in boxes and they head out.
And people with new boxes come in and they put
the pictures of the dog and the kids and everything up,
and they they and they just keep doing the same, old,
same old thing. The usual procedure was for the old
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crowd to vacate their positions and then the new crowd
just slides in, takes their place, and they just keep
doing the same OSMO. The institution itself remained inviolent. Nothing
essential changes, and I think Trump's election was the opposite.
He comes in to office to do what Hovey MLA
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has been doing in Argentina, but unlike Argentina, we are
still the world's superpower, but we're losing that status and
I think Trump recognizes that status better than any other
president in my lifetime, with maybe the exception of Dwight Eisenhower.
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And so Trump's coming in and saying, look, we're fraying
on the edges. We're fraying internally, domestically, and in terms
of our influence around the world. We're beginning to fray
because we're being snipped at with those funny kind of
scissors that cut know, in that funny way. I forget
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what they're called, those shears that that seamstresses use. So
we're being frayed on the edge by Russia, the Iranians,
and the Chinese, and that's affecting and hurting our allies.
Our allies are oblivious to it. And so I'm here,
I'm gonna wake I'm gonna wake things up. I'm gonna
shake things up.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
To go back to Dragon's point at the very beginning
of the program, too, don't expect everything to happen on
next Monday. But he's already laying that foundation. And I
like the foundation that's being laid because this is well,
it's exciting, and I think it needs to be done.
(34:46):
It's not always gonna be pleasant, and of course, in Trump's,
in Donald's ale way, he's gonna do it bombastically sometimes,
but also I think with a renewed sense of purpose
and a renewed sense of seriousness, like, oh I got
four years, I actually only have two years guaranteed, So
(35:08):
let's
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Get it on, and let's get it on now