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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I wanted to give a shout out to the
state of Colorado who was just ordered to pay one
point five million in legal fees to the attorneys of
the web designer that they tried to force to create
a website for a gay group, and they probably spent
at least that much on their own attorneys.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So way to go, Colorado.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Indeed, and I'm looking that up because that was I
think Lorie Smith was her name. Kelly might know she's
in the controller room now from three oh three Creative
that much. I know I've spoken with her before. It
is Lori Smith Rie. And just like with Jack Phillips,
if you need anything done in terms of web design,
et cetera, please go to three to three Creative dot com.
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We want to support these businesses, these individuals who have
stood up and fought for our rights First Amendment and
otherwise freedom of speech, freedom of religious expression, and freedom
from the oppression of the left that would look to
bully us into submission. You can't make Jack bake a cake, Okay,
you don't like it, go somewhere else. Plenty of other
(01:02):
bakeries out there. He doesn't have to bake your cake.
And on top of that, as Sarah texted earlier, and
you can share yours as well at three three one
oh three. He will serve anyone, anyone who walks in,
doesn't matter your background, your race, your religion, your color,
your creed, your your favorite color. He just won't create
(01:24):
things artistically that are in conflict with his own beliefs.
Why is this so difficult to understand or accept because
the left does not understand or accept us. The tyranny
goes one way period. I don't subscribe to nor do
I support the censorship of anybody on the left. I
want them to expose themselves for the ridiculous people that
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they are, the squad and otherwise. I don't want to
silence them. I don't want to force them into darkness. No,
come on out, the weather's fine. Put your comments out
there on social media, make your anti Semitic comments, ilhan
Omar and Rashida to leave, and then we are free
to criticize, castigate, and counter your speech with our speech.
(02:10):
That's how this works. And for Laurie Smith, yeah, she
shouldn't be forced to create a website for values that
are in conflict with her own. And if you don't
like it, guess what. You can go to any other
web designer or creator. I don't even know how this
is an issue. If I were a judge on any
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level of these courts, it'd be like, get out of
my courtroom. They don't have to do what you want
them to do. Services rendered are for the basic. You
come in the door, you provide a service. When you're
telling somebody to express a view that they can't get behind.
They don't want their work, their name representing that type
of product. You don't have the right to force them
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to do it. My goodness. This just in from Patty, Florida.
Family named Anderson Cooper as porch pirate that stole their
Amazon package. That's funny. Did he get hit in the
head with an Amazon package? It was?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It looked like a white Amazon box. You can't really
exactly tell what it was, but he was either hit
in the face an upper torso just for that brief
second he paused, oh, well that was different, and then
went about his report. So props to him for finishing
the report though, because he went on for another minute
minute a half.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But it was an Amazon package, he.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Really could have been who knows what it really say?
It was but it looked like you know, the white
Amazon box.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wow, this texter says Milton doesn't appear to have been
a Cat three. Can you ask your friend if they know.
As far as I know, it got to be a
four out in the Gulf. By the time the eyewall
hit Sarasota or thereabouts, it was a Cat three. And
then as it made its way inland across the Panhand
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or the peninsula of Florida. And it's currently right over
looks like daytona beach, kind of cocoa beach over east
of Orlando, a long eye fur It's now a cat
Wanner it was the last time I checked. It might
be downgraded from there to a tropical storm. But when
it goes over land, it loses a lot of its
power and juice, of course, So that's the most that
I know. I'm not a meteorologist. Andy and Lafayette with
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a text of the day, I think Mike, Michael Ryan
both all thanks for including that the headline of the
morning Hutchie is Okay, yay, Hutchie Ryan. If you can
imitate Trump's voice, you must be able to imitate your
friend Hutch's voice, right, Kelly is Andy and Lafayette. Right,
she's on the phone. What's she on the phone with?
(04:41):
What's going on over there? The one time I need her?
What is going on? What is going on? Talk to me?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Hatchie just called.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hatchie has no identifiation of time.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
He was just on the show in the six o'clock hours.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Stood, understood, but what's the report? And I didn't get
I basically said I have to go on air right now,
and he said, oh you're there.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh wow, they're pickles.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You work here too?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah? For Andy and Lafayette's benefit, Yes, I do imitate Hutchie.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
How you do a perfect Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
How she's nasty there?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh, I don't want to talk to Kelly. She's in
a nasty mood. She's got a bad foot. What should
I give her some heat? I'm gonna give a shoot
her heat like his wwe.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, he does all the time. He doesn't even
have to.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have you gotten to the point where you take it
in stride now because he's trying to get to you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I always take stuff in stride.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, I mean from him specifically, because he tries to agitate.
I know that's his m O.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
He's like my big brother, the big brother I never wanted,
but he's it. And yeah he'll do that. He right, boy,
to what's going on here? Try this? It's terrible. He'll
do that all the time. You ever have somebody who doesn't,
Oh this stinks, smell it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, we could get into some really interesting stories
about you and Hudgie that I know.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
There are a few.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There are a few, Oh my gosh. I think my
favorite one was one of the mornings he calls and
he's like, what do you work? And I yeah, yeah,
getting ready for the show. He's like, is Ryan there? Like, okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Eight No today I am, but most days.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No, no. And so he goes, what do you think
he's doing?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who do you think he's doing?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Hey, he doesn't say that he does he needs to
take it easy and slow down.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And so so I'm like, oh my god, Hudge, what
you need something? And he goes, now I just wanted
to say hi, Pickles, And then there's the whole wonderful
Oh this is my favorite story. You taking the magic mushrooms?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Guilty I tried.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And and Huchie calling me in the middle of all
of this.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And he was tripping balls and this is a story
we want to do on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Do I need to play referees? It's legal here now,
It's totally okay, psyched, it is funny.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So so so Houchie calls me and says, oh, I'm
really wasted. And so then like a couple of minutes later,
Ryan texts me. He's like, I don't feel anything. No, yeah,
because his dad gave him immunity.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, it's a theory that I have. I don't even
know if it holds true.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think it does.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Scientific research still doesn't. I don't think yield results. But
if somebody knows out there. My dad was heavily involved
as a as a hippie, as a boomer in the
sixties early seventies with psychedelic drugs. He used LSD quite
extensively for a time, but a little bit of marijuana,
drank a lot, smoked a lot of SIGs. But my
(08:20):
theory is that his LSD usage blunted my receptors and
my elevated my tolerance for such psychedelic drugs.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And you were the first kid.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was the first kid. So I was a Christmas
present nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Right, So I mean, but that phone conversation between Hotchet,
he was out of.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
His mind and out of that he was concernedly, Oh,
I'm worried about rivals. He took it like a bit
a pounds of these. Yeah, you did a big handful
of pickles. He's going to be tripping balls and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But he was also drinking at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So it was like, Hi, okay, I can't understand anything
you're saying. Well, that's part of the courst part about
it was that he you were like messaging me at
the same time He's like and You're like, h that
was fine, And I told you that I was fine.
We actually talked about politics, sort football game.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You would have an indicator like is Ryan kind of
off kilter here? And I wasn't. No, that was the
moral of the story at all.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
She was way gone. But that's the funniest conversation I
think I had with HOUCHI.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, he grew his own. I know they get you
know how this happens. I'll articulate and illuminate. They get
a lump of I think it's horse manure and you
literally grow the mushrooms out of that with like a
black light. There's like a certain light that he uses
and they grow and they and they taste kind of
like what you would think like dirt. They don't really
have a flavor, a spongey dirt.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I seriously think your dad gave me the best gift of.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Now you you actually have spoken to my father about this.
I'm surprised. What did he say? Did he think point there?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
First of all, your dad and I get along very well,
which scares me. Yeah, it's very strange. So whenever I
call Greg, he's like, oh, well, for the first time,
it was, oh, Kelly, I know you. I've heard of you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I've heard of you before.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah. Yeah. And so the last time we spoke after
it was really funny because we spoke for about uh
ten minutes okay after you know you were done talking
to him on the air. Oh yeah, and I had
to get ready for Dan and all of that. But
(10:52):
but he's always very gracious and I like talking with him.
But yes, he did say, well, you know a lot
of those years that I had ry when he was
a little boy, I drank a lot. Well, yeah, and
I did a lot of drunks.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't think I don't know about the drugs part.
Once I was born.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh he's he admitted it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, I wouldn't remember, I will know.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, Well, no, you were you were a little guy,
like a baby. Yeah, and and so he goes. Then
I just had to I had to wipe it away
because I had to raise the little rye.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It wasn't just me. There was three more that came
after that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, of course, but I mean you were the first.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So I was the o G. I was the original.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, you were the yeah. Okay, well it was the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
First grandson on either side. So I'm kind of a
prince back home. Let's not say that, all right, more
texts again, you can send yours along three three one
zero three, Brian. If Biden wants to hand off to VP,
why doesn't he just step down and give her the
job as president because clearly Biden isn't doing the job.
(12:04):
But Biden Texter does not want to give up the job.
And this will happen what you just described over doctor
Jill first, Lady Biden's dead body, it will not have
She is enraged. I believe the reporting that she is
livid about her husband being pushed out of the race.
Ain't no way he's resigning the presidency and doing any
(12:26):
favors for Kamala Harris. He kind of threw her a
bone yesterday. Did you see that Dragon was talking about
this the zoom call in which the Vice president was
foisted into the conversation which she has no official role. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I'm a guy that doesn't really pay attention a whole much.
So when I see something like this, I have to
question about if this is a normal operation. They had
you know, President Joe Biden, they had a FEMA director on,
they had majorcas on, and then in another box they
had Kamala on this in this zoom call. So I
was curious if this was a traditional VP role.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So it's like, okay, so this is a campaign thing. Yes,
so this is a this is a campaign thing. Well,
then does an orange man bad need to be there too,
because it's that's a good point. He should be there now,
this was just a peer. In a year six months,
he could be running the show. He needs to know
how to do all this stuff too.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Right, You're exactly right. It's a good point. Bad news
for Hutchee hare Kel Panela's county orders residents to remain sheltered.
That's where he lives and that's where he'll stay. The
roof was torn off of the trap Tropic Cana Field,
which is the worst baseball stadium in all of the majors,
and might give them some motivation, shall we say, or
impetus to replace that roof with a retractable one like
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we see elsewhere, including Miami. Maybe have some real grass
on the field. It is a dump, It is a dungeon.
It is dark and dingy. There's a lot of d
words I'm using there. And I think Jesse Thomas will
attest that it's his least favorite when he goes on
the road. I don't quote me on that for him,
but I think that's what he would say.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Bottom half doesn't at least at least it's it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Where the Yeah, that's where the Rays play. Now, imagine, well,
what if they were in the playoffs right now, like
my Detroit Tigers who are about to go to the
Alcs probably against the Yankees, they wouldn't have a home
stadium to play in. I mean it's probably they don't
have to face, but it just what if, right, and
put that retractable roof on there. Make it a place
that people want to go. This area that it's in
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Saint Petersburg, it's really nice. There's a good bar district.
There's a nice sports bar right next door, walking distance.
You're going through it's cause it's cool. And then you
walk into the trap like ah, concrete everywhere, dark, musty, mildew.
It's not fun. This Texter didn't Pocahontas Warren try that
have a beer with me. Back in twenty sixteen. She said,
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I think I'm gonna go get me a beer. She
went in the fridge, she got a beer, she cracked
open the beer, and she swig the beer. I think
her husband was somewhere in the background too. It was
a very odd scene. To put it mildly, this one
says Ryan, while you're correct, and it's completely clear that
college campuses are in doctrination centers. My son attends CEE
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YOUU Boulder, where all of his friends are conservative, and
many of the people he talks about who are not
his friends are conservative. Of course, most of them are men,
but even the women are against Vice President Harris Texter.
That really heartens me. That's the best news I've gotten
all day, other than Hutchie's still alive. But this is
a close second that on CU Boulder's campus, not only
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do conservatives exist, but they thrive and they congregate and
hopefully that they're left alone. Now, Dragon was the one
saying that I was going to be lynched if I
was a professor on campus there. That's extreme, But I
don't know this, Texter's giving me a little bit of hope. Ryan,
Why are there not more debates on the conservative news channels?
Why are we not pushing to hold debates for our candidates?
(15:57):
Because it's tough. It's a cabal well working against us.
If Gabe Evans, let's say, wanted to have a debate
with yours truly moderating it, and let's say Dan Kaplis
Derek Carraveale would never agree to that, she would be
scared out of her mind. Can you imagine now the
(16:19):
irony of it is? I think Dan and I would
be far more fair and overtly so than Comrade Kyle
and Marshall Zellinger were. I mean, that was kind of
a joke we saw the other night. They were trying
to do all this favor and carry water and curry
favor with you, Derek Carraveale. They did ask her a
couple of tough questions, but it was all Trump all
the time. Orange man bad. Are you going to go
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to the rally with Hitler? Is what Marshall Zellinger effectively asked.
And Comrade Kyle wou he uh disparages immigrants. Donald Trump
loves legal immigrants of all backgrounds, Kyle, and I think
he knows that. But this narrative about Donald Trump's a racist.
Donald Trump hates him grints. Donald Trump hates criminal illegal aliens,
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those like Trend de' arragua, a gang who has a presence,
however you want to define it in Aurora. They need
to be eradicated, removed. Those people should not be in
our country, those who would come here to commit crimes
to traffic, women and girls. Comrade Kyle, that's happening. What
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I would love to see is Kyle Clark moderating a
debate between John Fabricatory, my good friend who's running in
the six against Jason Crowe. But Jason Crowe, he's a
bit of a chicken. Different bird need to change his
last name. He won't agree to debate John Fabricatory because
he knows he would lose. Speaking of debates, Brittany Vessely
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joins us she was in a debate about Amendment seventy nine.
Will get the recap of that when we come back
on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
K Hon, he knew that Dragon red Beard.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He keeps me up the air much a lot because
I have an F bomb problem? Does he have one?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
No, And it's not an F bomb problem. It's not
a S bomb problem or anything. It's just that you
leave a dozen talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you can't pick one. Yeah, you gotta narrow the
focus exactly. Yeah, you got to winno in here, talkbacker,
whatever your name.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I've got to pick the best one and go for it.
And yeah, if you leave a dozen, I may play two, but.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, yeah, there's some commotion in the background.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But if I've played one, I'm probably not going to
play another one that day.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So yeah, I mean, let's measure it out. Breathe. Yeah,
take take a beat, take a pause, and be ready
to rock back with you. Here last half hour heading
down the stretch of this Thursday edition of the Situation
without Michael Brown, Ryan Schuling filling And you just heard
from Dragon Redbeard also known as DRB kind of like ODB.
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And you know where I'm going with that. Well, this
next clip is going to lead us into our next guest,
and she is Brittany Vessily and she is fighting against
Amendment seventy nine. Here is one of the reasons. This
is Danny Newsome of Cobalt. She is the director of
Strategic Partnerships for them. About Amendment seventy nine and whether
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or not she supports any restrictions on abortion.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The common sense restrictions that you are talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Abortion is healthcare. Why would you have a restriction pregnancy.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Every pregnancy is different, Every pregnant person is different. You
don't know when something is going to wrong with the pregnancy.
You don't know how something is going to go wrong
with the pregnancy. Medical care must be provided.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Wow, Colorado Catholic Conference. There's a lot of alliteration there.
You can find out more about them Ceocatholic dot org.
And the executive director, Brittany Vessely is our guest. Brittany,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Hi Ryan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What I just heard and let me see if I've
got this wrong, was Hey, we don't know what happens
in a pregnancy, so there can't be any restrictions on
it because it's healthcare. And any time, for any reason,
you walk in the ninth month you don't feel like
having a baby anymore, you can kill it.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Exactly. You know what's interesting about the debate is that
Danny was getting very frustrated by my point that this
removed any common sense safeguard for abortion for all nine
months of pregnancy, especially parental notification, which is very important
because that means that minors can be coerced into an
abortion by their parents, brother, school counselor, or their boyfriend,
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and their parents have no right to know. Danzon, that
absolutely doesn't do anything in this law. And then she
says this that there needs to be no restrictions, no
regulations on abortion. Well, which is it, Danny, Because if
you have lang which in the amendment, which is in
the amendment that says the government shall not deny, impede,
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or discriminate against a right to abortion, that is aka,
you cannot have any common sense regulations whatsoever for all
nine months of pregnancy, even for the health of if
it's a healthy mother with a healthy child, even if
it has friend sidification that has to be gone. There
can't be regulations on abortion clinics, so women are actually
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going to be put in jeopardy. Their health is going
to be put in jeopardy under this amendment. There can't
be anything underneath, including prohibiting pack their funds from directly
subsidizing abortion. So it's a free for all in the
state of Colorado with Amendment seventy nine. And it's very
deceptive for Danny. So once on one hand say oh,
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this doesn't touch certain regulations, and then the other she says,
exactly like the Clipsy displayed, there shouldn't be any restriction
to abortion because abortion is quote unquote healthcare, Brittany.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
One of the arguments like here, and I've had this
conversation at length with Heidi Ganall, who is strongly pro life,
and I've become more that way, and especially when it
comes to something we should all agree on late term
abortion and what people like Comrade Kyle Clark other Democrats
will say about a late term in bored Oh, that's
so rare, and it's usually become because of extenuating circumstances.
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The baby's going to be born dead or there's a
threat to the life of the mother. None of that
is in the current Colorado law and it certainly wouldn't
be in Amendment seventy nine. And further to that point, Brittany,
I would like you to tell our listeners a little
bit more about the doctor in Boulder named doctor Warren Hearn.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yes, thank you, Ryan. So this is one of the
other points that Danny kept coming back to you or
seeing this as part of a national conversation that late
term abortion doesn't exist. Well, the Caror Department Health own
data shows that there are about five hundred abortions that
exist act or after twenty one weeks just which is
viability in Colorado. That represents four percent of all abortions
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in our states. It's not the one percent that Danny
kept fighting. That's a national statistics. It's four percent. It
happens at a much higher rate and stay of Colorado,
and it'll increase if Ammon seventy nine is passed. Now.
Doctor Warren Hearn is the late abortionist and Boulder and
he has articles in the Atlantic and The New York
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Times just in the last couple of months where he
couts he brags about the fact that at least fifty
percent or more of the late abortions that he conducts
are on healthy babies from healthy mothers. Now, Danny, it's
actually at point seventeen fifty five in a debate, I
would love if somebody send that flip to doctor Hearn,
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and Boulder says, oh, doctor hernieds tots hired. He's an outlier,
but he's not an outlier. There are several late abortionists
in the state of Colorado, including a new one in Denver,
Benedict Langren, who recently had fat on Twitter with an
abortion activist where he said, don't digmatize late abortion. It
is not the reason for fetal anomalies and health of
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the mother that late abortions are conducted. That is actually untrue.
It happens far more on just a convenience an election,
rather than the other side wants to admit.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Executive Director Colorado Catholic Conference Brittany Vessely joining us after
her debate earlier this week on Amendment seventy nine. I
thought she did a very good job in articulating this position.
But to her point, if you find a doctor death
like Warren Hearn who's willing to do it, and the
Democrats insist well, we're just going to respect that's a
choice between a woman and her doctor. Then that baby,
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it's a baby can be aborted for any reason at
any time, or for no reason at all, just a
whim just I don't want it. That is the Colorado law.
That's as it stands right now, regardless of Amendment seventy nine.
And I want you answer this part. There seemed to
be a sticking point here, Brittany, between yourself and Danny Newsom.
And again she's the director of strategic Partnerships for Cobalt,
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that's an abortion organization, and this is what she said
about parental notification.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Do you believe that parents should not be involved in
their child's reproductive health decisions?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Danny, you have one minute, thank.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You, Russell.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Brittany, I will state again that Proposition seventy nine says
absolutely nothing about parental notification. Parental notification was passed by
Colorado voters in nineteen eighty four. It's a constitutional amendment,
and this amendment says absolutely nothing about it. The gut
Marker Institute doesn't have anything to do with Colorado. It's
a respected source, but it doesn't have anything to do
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with Colorado. So you're injecting untruth into this discussion. Again,
Proposition seventy nine has nothing to do with parental notification
and does not repeal the requirement that a parent be
notified of a miner's intent to obtain an abortion.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Brittany, were you injecting untruths into the converse? Station? No?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
And I actually loved going back to parental notification with
Danny because I could tell it was really getting under
her skin, and it was actually in that clip and
the same breath that she said abortion is healthcare and
there should be no restrictions. So well, which is it, Danny,
Because if there's no restrictions, there are no parent there's
no parental notification. But here is what the language an
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amendment seventy nine states the government shall not deny, impede,
or discriminate against a proposed right to abortion. That is
constitutional language that means that any other law has any
restriction or impediment to somebody's access to abortion is removed.
That includes parental notification. The legal scholars who have looked
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at this said that includes parental notification. The Gutlocker Institute,
which is the policy armor Planned Parenthood, cite parental notification
as restricted to abortion access. So this is why the
pro abortion lobbies such as Cobalts and Planned Parenthood of
the Rocky Mountain include shall not impede against the right
to abortion in this ballot proposition in Colorado and in
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every state that's considering a ballot proposition, because they know
full well that means parental notification is gone. So a
fifteen year old girl can be coercid into an abortion
and her parents will not have a right to know
because if they did, that would be restrictive to her
right to abortion, her quote unquote right to abortion, which
is part of the Amendment seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Brittany Vessellly, Executive director, Colorado Catholic Conference, There's one other
portion here I want you to respond to, is actually
at the very beginning where she explains the rationale for
wanting to put this into the constitution through Amendment seventy
nine and the political reasoning behind it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
The Reproductive Health Equity Act is statutory protection. Statutory protection
can be overturned with a change in the state legislature
and with an anti abortion with an anti abortion governor.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So what this will do.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Was add an extra layer of protection against politics politicians
and religious partisans who would try to inject their personal
religious or moral beliefs on the rest of us, and
that is why we need a constitutional protection. Secondly, I
believe I believe Brittany said that Proposition seventy nine would
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repeal parental notification. Proposition seventy nine has nothing to do
with parental notification. Currently, a minor under the age of
eighteen who's seeking abortion care must obtain or must notify
a parent, of one parent or a guardian of their
intent to obtain abortion care. Proposition seventy nine does nothing
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about parental notification.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Those are two separate issues.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Taxpayer funding right now we in Colorado, we have private
health insurance which must be.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Coming for that time. We addressed that second part. But
the first part I found rich and hypocritical at the
highest level, Brittany, because wasn't it party politics, politicians injecting
their views on behalf of Colorado's who passed this abortion
law in the first place.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Exactly, it's hyperbolic to say the least that Colorado is
going to have any restriction on the abortion access in
the near future. When you have an activist pro abortion
administration under Governor Polis. We have a near supermajority of progressive,
pro abortion activists in our state legislature, and we have
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very pro abortion courts. Colorado is not the American South.
Any type of quote unquote abortion ban on the federal
level does not survive scrutin me under the Dobbs decision,
because Dobbs sent abortion legislation back to the states, and
Colorado already has the Reproductive Health Equity Act permitting abortion
for all nine months, and the subsequent three abortion laws
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that also addressed areas of Amendment seventy nine that Danny
untruthfully has said it doesn't exist in Colora law already.
So for her to for Danny to make an argument
that we need this to codify a potential ban for
the future, that's not the direction of Colorado. Colorado is
very blue and the only reason to do this and
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this is where she was going, and Ryan, he said,
you wish we could get to the only reason to
completely remove section fifty of Article five in the Constitution,
which is what Amendment seventy nine is really after, is
to open the door for direct tax pay funding for abortion.
That is not simply a fix for public officials access
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to medicate. What that does is allowed for our very progressive,
poor pro abortion state legislature to come back in January
of twenty twenty five and allocate a multi million dollar
allocation for abortion procedures and travel for out of state
women so that the states that are surrounding us to
have restrictions on abortion and life affirming laws, those women
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can travel to the State of Colorado on our tax
dollar and have abortions on our tax dollar here in
the state of Colorado. That's something organ has already done
with a fifteen million dollars allocation responding to Idaho's heartbeat law,
and it's exactly what the pro abortion lobby in Colorado
is after because it lines their own pockets.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It was a bad night for COBALT's Danny Newsom, and
that was largely due in credit to Brittany Vesseli, our guests,
the executive director for the Colorado Catholic Conference. You can
find out more online Ceocatholic dot org and don't forget
vote no on Amendment seventy nine. Brittany. Always thankful for
your time, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Joining us today, Thank you for having me. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Take a break, We'll come back. We'll wrap it up
with your text. You can send them. There's still time,
don't panic. Thirty three one to oh three, filling in
for Michael Brown, Ryan schuling back.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
After this, Brian, why would any Catholic, Jewish person, oil person,
gun owner think about voting Democrat.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Only if they hated themselves in their rights? It's the
only answer I have, because you make a good point.
The left has become so extreme. I mean, when you
lose Elon Musk, and you lose Rfk Junior, and you
lose Telsea Gabbard, you know, these are no small things.
They've lost Joe Rogan, who was but that's not a
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good trade for them. It's not a good trade.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
They gained some things too.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Have at it, enjoy. This is a Texter along those lines.
I'm Catholic and so I read the Archbishop's letter on
this issue, Amendment seventy nine we were talking about with
Britney Vessel in the previous segment, and I'm in your camp.
My question is how come you haven't been doing advertising
on television? Well, me, personally, I don't have the money.
Every time I turn the TV on, I see these
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women saying it's my right, my body. I decide, and
I haven't heard a single thing to oppose that, so
I predict sadly that they will win and we will lose.
You're not wrong, Texter. It's frustrating to me too. I
consider myself very much a moderate on this issue. I
prefer life. I want them to be as few abortions
as possible. If there are abortions, I'd like them to
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be as early as possible. I hate late term abortion.
I don't like midterm abortion. I think there's a heartbeat law.
There's a six week, there's an eight week there's something
in there that I would be okay with personally. I
don't want to outlaw abortion outright, but I don't like
it being an electric procedure at any point in the
pregnancy for no reason. Woman's having a bad day, and
I'm here to tell you everybody has a bad day,
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and they going I don't want this baby anymore. I
can't afford it. It's an inconvenience.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Are you saying that an emotional pregnant woman would never
be emotional about something.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I'm gonna sound like a sexist, but I'm telling you,
as she walks in, she's just having a bad day.
I'm not even exaggerating. And she finds a doctor death
like we mentioned, who exists Warren Hearn in Boulder. Yeah,
we'll tear that thing out. You, We'll kill it, don't worry,
not a second thought, no reason, no restriction, because they
can't afford to surrender guardrails on this issue. Right, there's
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no three day waiting period, No touche big Ley. There
should be because you're murdering a baby at that point.
However you feel about it, but you're right. The funding
on abortion is one of the top leftist issues in America,
along with the Union. So it's a difficult climb and
hopefully Britney Vessely can help make it. Vote no on
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Amendment seventy nine. I'm back with you tomorrow and later
today here on six point thirty km
Hey, I wanted to give a shout out to the
state of Colorado who was just ordered to pay one
point five million in legal fees to the attorneys of
the web designer that they tried to force to create
a website for a gay group, and they probably spent
at least that much on their own attorneys.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So way to go, Colorado.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Indeed, and I'm looking that up because that was I
think Lorie Smith was her name. Kelly might know she's
in the controller room now from three oh three Creative
that much. I know I've spoken with her before. It
is Lori Smith Rie. And just like with Jack Phillips,
if you need anything done in terms of web design,
et cetera, please go to three to three Creative dot com.
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We want to support these businesses, these individuals who have
stood up and fought for our rights First Amendment and
otherwise freedom of speech, freedom of religious expression, and freedom
from the oppression of the left that would look to
bully us into submission. You can't make Jack bake a cake, Okay,
you don't like it, go somewhere else. Plenty of other
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bakeries out there. He doesn't have to bake your cake.
And on top of that, as Sarah texted earlier, and
you can share yours as well at three three one
oh three. He will serve anyone, anyone who walks in,
doesn't matter your background, your race, your religion, your color,
your creed, your your favorite color. He just won't create
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things artistically that are in conflict with his own beliefs.
Why is this so difficult to understand or accept because
the left does not understand or accept us. The tyranny
goes one way period. I don't subscribe to nor do
I support the censorship of anybody on the left. I
want them to expose themselves for the ridiculous people that
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they are, the squad and otherwise. I don't want to
silence them. I don't want to force them into darkness. No,
come on out, the weather's fine. Put your comments out
there on social media, make your anti Semitic comments, ilhan
Omar and Rashida to leave, and then we are free
to criticize, castigate, and counter your speech with our speech.
(02:10):
That's how this works. And for Laurie Smith, yeah, she
shouldn't be forced to create a website for values that
are in conflict with her own. And if you don't
like it, guess what. You can go to any other
web designer or creator. I don't even know how this
is an issue. If I were a judge on any
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level of these courts, it'd be like, get out of
my courtroom. They don't have to do what you want
them to do. Services rendered are for the basic. You
come in the door, you provide a service. When you're
telling somebody to express a view that they can't get behind.
They don't want their work, their name representing that type
of product. You don't have the right to force them
(02:53):
to do it. My goodness. This just in from Patty, Florida.
Family named Anderson Cooper as porch pirate that stole their
Amazon package. That's funny. Did he get hit in the
head with an Amazon package? It was?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It looked like a white Amazon box. You can't really
exactly tell what it was, but he was either hit
in the face an upper torso just for that brief
second he paused, oh, well that was different, and then
went about his report. So props to him for finishing
the report though, because he went on for another minute
minute a half.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But it was an Amazon package, he.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Really could have been who knows what it really say?
It was but it looked like you know, the white
Amazon box.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wow, this texter says Milton doesn't appear to have been
a Cat three. Can you ask your friend if they know.
As far as I know, it got to be a
four out in the Gulf. By the time the eyewall
hit Sarasota or thereabouts, it was a Cat three. And
then as it made its way inland across the Panhand
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or the peninsula of Florida. And it's currently right over
looks like daytona beach, kind of cocoa beach over east
of Orlando, a long eye fur It's now a cat
Wanner it was the last time I checked. It might
be downgraded from there to a tropical storm. But when
it goes over land, it loses a lot of its
power and juice, of course, So that's the most that
I know. I'm not a meteorologist. Andy and Lafayette with
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a text of the day, I think Mike, Michael Ryan
both all thanks for including that the headline of the
morning Hutchie is Okay, yay, Hutchie Ryan. If you can
imitate Trump's voice, you must be able to imitate your
friend Hutch's voice, right, Kelly is Andy and Lafayette. Right,
she's on the phone. What's she on the phone with?
(04:41):
What's going on over there? The one time I need her?
What is going on? What is going on? Talk to me?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Hatchie just called.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hatchie has no identifiation of time.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
He was just on the show in the six o'clock hours.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Stood, understood, but what's the report? And I didn't get
I basically said I have to go on air right now,
and he said, oh you're there.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh wow, they're pickles.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You work here too?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah? For Andy and Lafayette's benefit, Yes, I do imitate Hutchie.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
How you do a perfect Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
How she's nasty there?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh, I don't want to talk to Kelly. She's in
a nasty mood. She's got a bad foot. What should
I give her some heat? I'm gonna give a shoot
her heat like his wwe.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, he does all the time. He doesn't even
have to.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have you gotten to the point where you take it
in stride now because he's trying to get to you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I always take stuff in stride.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, I mean from him specifically, because he tries to agitate.
I know that's his m O.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
He's like my big brother, the big brother I never wanted,
but he's it. And yeah he'll do that. He right, boy,
to what's going on here? Try this? It's terrible. He'll
do that all the time. You ever have somebody who doesn't,
Oh this stinks, smell it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean, we could get into some really interesting stories
about you and Hudgie that I know.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
There are a few.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There are a few, Oh my gosh. I think my
favorite one was one of the mornings he calls and
he's like, what do you work? And I yeah, yeah,
getting ready for the show. He's like, is Ryan there? Like, okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Eight No today I am, but most days.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No, no. And so he goes, what do you think
he's doing?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who do you think he's doing?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Hey, he doesn't say that he does he needs to
take it easy and slow down.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And so so I'm like, oh my god, Hudge, what
you need something? And he goes, now I just wanted
to say hi, Pickles, And then there's the whole wonderful
Oh this is my favorite story. You taking the magic mushrooms?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Guilty I tried.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And and Huchie calling me in the middle of all
of this.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And he was tripping balls and this is a story
we want to do on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Do I need to play referees? It's legal here now,
It's totally okay, psyched, it is funny.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So so so Houchie calls me and says, oh, I'm
really wasted. And so then like a couple of minutes later,
Ryan texts me. He's like, I don't feel anything. No, yeah,
because his dad gave him immunity.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, it's a theory that I have. I don't even
know if it holds true.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think it does.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Scientific research still doesn't. I don't think yield results. But
if somebody knows out there. My dad was heavily involved
as a as a hippie, as a boomer in the
sixties early seventies with psychedelic drugs. He used LSD quite
extensively for a time, but a little bit of marijuana,
drank a lot, smoked a lot of SIGs. But my
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theory is that his LSD usage blunted my receptors and
my elevated my tolerance for such psychedelic drugs.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And you were the first kid.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was the first kid. So I was a Christmas
present nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Right, So I mean, but that phone conversation between Hotchet,
he was out of.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
His mind and out of that he was concernedly, Oh,
I'm worried about rivals. He took it like a bit
a pounds of these. Yeah, you did a big handful
of pickles. He's going to be tripping balls and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But he was also drinking at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So it was like, Hi, okay, I can't understand anything
you're saying. Well, that's part of the courst part about
it was that he you were like messaging me at
the same time He's like and You're like, h that
was fine, And I told you that I was fine.
We actually talked about politics, sort football game.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You would have an indicator like is Ryan kind of
off kilter here? And I wasn't. No, that was the
moral of the story at all.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
She was way gone. But that's the funniest conversation I
think I had with HOUCHI.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, he grew his own. I know they get you
know how this happens. I'll articulate and illuminate. They get
a lump of I think it's horse manure and you
literally grow the mushrooms out of that with like a
black light. There's like a certain light that he uses
and they grow and they and they taste kind of
like what you would think like dirt. They don't really
have a flavor, a spongey dirt.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I seriously think your dad gave me the best gift of.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Now you you actually have spoken to my father about this.
I'm surprised. What did he say? Did he think point there?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
First of all, your dad and I get along very well,
which scares me. Yeah, it's very strange. So whenever I
call Greg, he's like, oh, well, for the first time,
it was, oh, Kelly, I know you. I've heard of you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I've heard of you before.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah. Yeah. And so the last time we spoke after
it was really funny because we spoke for about uh
ten minutes okay after you know you were done talking
to him on the air. Oh yeah, and I had
to get ready for Dan and all of that. But
(10:52):
but he's always very gracious and I like talking with him.
But yes, he did say, well, you know a lot
of those years that I had ry when he was
a little boy, I drank a lot. Well, yeah, and
I did a lot of drunks.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't think I don't know about the drugs part.
Once I was born.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh he's he admitted it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, I wouldn't remember, I will know.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, Well, no, you were you were a little guy,
like a baby. Yeah, and and so he goes. Then
I just had to I had to wipe it away
because I had to raise the little rye.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It wasn't just me. There was three more that came
after that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, of course, but I mean you were the first.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So I was the o G. I was the original.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, you were the yeah. Okay, well it was the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
First grandson on either side. So I'm kind of a
prince back home. Let's not say that, all right, more
texts again, you can send yours along three three one
zero three, Brian. If Biden wants to hand off to VP,
why doesn't he just step down and give her the
job as president because clearly Biden isn't doing the job.
(12:04):
But Biden Texter does not want to give up the job.
And this will happen what you just described over doctor
Jill first, Lady Biden's dead body, it will not have
She is enraged. I believe the reporting that she is
livid about her husband being pushed out of the race.
Ain't no way he's resigning the presidency and doing any
(12:26):
favors for Kamala Harris. He kind of threw her a
bone yesterday. Did you see that Dragon was talking about
this the zoom call in which the Vice president was
foisted into the conversation which she has no official role. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I'm a guy that doesn't really pay attention a whole much.
So when I see something like this, I have to
question about if this is a normal operation. They had
you know, President Joe Biden, they had a FEMA director on,
they had majorcas on, and then in another box they
had Kamala on this in this zoom call. So I
was curious if this was a traditional VP role.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So it's like, okay, so this is a campaign thing. Yes,
so this is a this is a campaign thing. Well,
then does an orange man bad need to be there too,
because it's that's a good point. He should be there now,
this was just a peer. In a year six months,
he could be running the show. He needs to know
how to do all this stuff too.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Right, You're exactly right. It's a good point. Bad news
for Hutchee hare Kel Panela's county orders residents to remain sheltered.
That's where he lives and that's where he'll stay. The
roof was torn off of the trap Tropic Cana Field,
which is the worst baseball stadium in all of the majors,
and might give them some motivation, shall we say, or
impetus to replace that roof with a retractable one like
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we see elsewhere, including Miami. Maybe have some real grass
on the field. It is a dump, It is a dungeon.
It is dark and dingy. There's a lot of d
words I'm using there. And I think Jesse Thomas will
attest that it's his least favorite when he goes on
the road. I don't quote me on that for him,
but I think that's what he would say.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Bottom half doesn't at least at least it's it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Where the Yeah, that's where the Rays play. Now, imagine, well,
what if they were in the playoffs right now, like
my Detroit Tigers who are about to go to the
Alcs probably against the Yankees, they wouldn't have a home
stadium to play in. I mean it's probably they don't
have to face, but it just what if, right, and
put that retractable roof on there. Make it a place
that people want to go. This area that it's in
(14:28):
Saint Petersburg, it's really nice. There's a good bar district.
There's a nice sports bar right next door, walking distance.
You're going through it's cause it's cool. And then you
walk into the trap like ah, concrete everywhere, dark, musty, mildew.
It's not fun. This Texter didn't Pocahontas Warren try that
have a beer with me. Back in twenty sixteen. She said,
(14:52):
I think I'm gonna go get me a beer. She
went in the fridge, she got a beer, she cracked
open the beer, and she swig the beer. I think
her husband was somewhere in the background too. It was
a very odd scene. To put it mildly, this one
says Ryan, while you're correct, and it's completely clear that
college campuses are in doctrination centers. My son attends CEE
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YOUU Boulder, where all of his friends are conservative, and
many of the people he talks about who are not
his friends are conservative. Of course, most of them are men,
but even the women are against Vice President Harris Texter.
That really heartens me. That's the best news I've gotten
all day, other than Hutchie's still alive. But this is
a close second that on CU Boulder's campus, not only
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do conservatives exist, but they thrive and they congregate and
hopefully that they're left alone. Now, Dragon was the one
saying that I was going to be lynched if I
was a professor on campus there. That's extreme, But I
don't know this, Texter's giving me a little bit of hope. Ryan,
Why are there not more debates on the conservative news channels?
Why are we not pushing to hold debates for our candidates?
(15:57):
Because it's tough. It's a cabal well working against us.
If Gabe Evans, let's say, wanted to have a debate
with yours truly moderating it, and let's say Dan Kaplis
Derek Carraveale would never agree to that, she would be
scared out of her mind. Can you imagine now the
(16:19):
irony of it is? I think Dan and I would
be far more fair and overtly so than Comrade Kyle
and Marshall Zellinger were. I mean, that was kind of
a joke we saw the other night. They were trying
to do all this favor and carry water and curry
favor with you, Derek Carraveale. They did ask her a
couple of tough questions, but it was all Trump all
the time. Orange man bad. Are you going to go
(16:41):
to the rally with Hitler? Is what Marshall Zellinger effectively asked.
And Comrade Kyle wou he uh disparages immigrants. Donald Trump
loves legal immigrants of all backgrounds, Kyle, and I think
he knows that. But this narrative about Donald Trump's a racist.
Donald Trump hates him grints. Donald Trump hates criminal illegal aliens,
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those like Trend de' arragua, a gang who has a presence,
however you want to define it in Aurora. They need
to be eradicated, removed. Those people should not be in
our country, those who would come here to commit crimes
to traffic, women and girls. Comrade Kyle, that's happening. What
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I would love to see is Kyle Clark moderating a
debate between John Fabricatory, my good friend who's running in
the six against Jason Crowe. But Jason Crowe, he's a
bit of a chicken. Different bird need to change his
last name. He won't agree to debate John Fabricatory because
he knows he would lose. Speaking of debates, Brittany Vessely
(17:48):
joins us she was in a debate about Amendment seventy nine.
Will get the recap of that when we come back
on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
K Hon, he knew that Dragon red Beard.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He keeps me up the air much a lot because
I have an F bomb problem? Does he have one?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
No, And it's not an F bomb problem. It's not
a S bomb problem or anything. It's just that you
leave a dozen talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you can't pick one. Yeah, you gotta narrow the
focus exactly. Yeah, you got to winno in here, talkbacker,
whatever your name.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I've got to pick the best one and go for it.
And yeah, if you leave a dozen, I may play two, but.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, yeah, there's some commotion in the background.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But if I've played one, I'm probably not going to
play another one that day.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So yeah, I mean, let's measure it out. Breathe. Yeah,
take take a beat, take a pause, and be ready
to rock back with you. Here last half hour heading
down the stretch of this Thursday edition of the Situation
without Michael Brown, Ryan Schuling filling And you just heard
from Dragon Redbeard also known as DRB kind of like ODB.
(19:05):
And you know where I'm going with that. Well, this
next clip is going to lead us into our next guest,
and she is Brittany Vessily and she is fighting against
Amendment seventy nine. Here is one of the reasons. This
is Danny Newsome of Cobalt. She is the director of
Strategic Partnerships for them. About Amendment seventy nine and whether
(19:27):
or not she supports any restrictions on abortion.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The common sense restrictions that you are talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Abortion is healthcare. Why would you have a restriction pregnancy.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Every pregnancy is different, Every pregnant person is different. You
don't know when something is going to wrong with the pregnancy.
You don't know how something is going to go wrong
with the pregnancy. Medical care must be provided.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Wow, Colorado Catholic Conference. There's a lot of alliteration there.
You can find out more about them Ceocatholic dot org.
And the executive director, Brittany Vessely is our guest. Brittany,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Hi Ryan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What I just heard and let me see if I've
got this wrong, was Hey, we don't know what happens
in a pregnancy, so there can't be any restrictions on
it because it's healthcare. And any time, for any reason,
you walk in the ninth month you don't feel like
having a baby anymore, you can kill it.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Exactly. You know what's interesting about the debate is that
Danny was getting very frustrated by my point that this
removed any common sense safeguard for abortion for all nine
months of pregnancy, especially parental notification, which is very important
because that means that minors can be coerced into an
abortion by their parents, brother, school counselor, or their boyfriend,
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and their parents have no right to know. Danzon, that
absolutely doesn't do anything in this law. And then she
says this that there needs to be no restrictions, no
regulations on abortion. Well, which is it, Danny, Because if
you have lang which in the amendment, which is in
the amendment that says the government shall not deny, impede,
(21:07):
or discriminate against a right to abortion, that is aka,
you cannot have any common sense regulations whatsoever for all
nine months of pregnancy, even for the health of if
it's a healthy mother with a healthy child, even if
it has friend sidification that has to be gone. There
can't be regulations on abortion clinics, so women are actually
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going to be put in jeopardy. Their health is going
to be put in jeopardy under this amendment. There can't
be anything underneath, including prohibiting pack their funds from directly
subsidizing abortion. So it's a free for all in the
state of Colorado with Amendment seventy nine. And it's very
deceptive for Danny. So once on one hand say oh,
(21:48):
this doesn't touch certain regulations, and then the other she says,
exactly like the Clipsy displayed, there shouldn't be any restriction
to abortion because abortion is quote unquote healthcare, Brittany.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
One of the arguments like here, and I've had this
conversation at length with Heidi Ganall, who is strongly pro life,
and I've become more that way, and especially when it
comes to something we should all agree on late term
abortion and what people like Comrade Kyle Clark other Democrats
will say about a late term in bored Oh, that's
so rare, and it's usually become because of extenuating circumstances.
(22:20):
The baby's going to be born dead or there's a
threat to the life of the mother. None of that
is in the current Colorado law and it certainly wouldn't
be in Amendment seventy nine. And further to that point, Brittany,
I would like you to tell our listeners a little
bit more about the doctor in Boulder named doctor Warren Hearn.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yes, thank you, Ryan. So this is one of the
other points that Danny kept coming back to you or
seeing this as part of a national conversation that late
term abortion doesn't exist. Well, the Caror Department Health own
data shows that there are about five hundred abortions that
exist act or after twenty one weeks just which is
viability in Colorado. That represents four percent of all abortions
(23:06):
in our states. It's not the one percent that Danny
kept fighting. That's a national statistics. It's four percent. It
happens at a much higher rate and stay of Colorado,
and it'll increase if Ammon seventy nine is passed. Now.
Doctor Warren Hearn is the late abortionist and Boulder and
he has articles in the Atlantic and The New York
(23:26):
Times just in the last couple of months where he
couts he brags about the fact that at least fifty
percent or more of the late abortions that he conducts
are on healthy babies from healthy mothers. Now, Danny, it's
actually at point seventeen fifty five in a debate, I
would love if somebody send that flip to doctor Hearn,
(23:46):
and Boulder says, oh, doctor hernieds tots hired. He's an outlier,
but he's not an outlier. There are several late abortionists
in the state of Colorado, including a new one in Denver,
Benedict Langren, who recently had fat on Twitter with an
abortion activist where he said, don't digmatize late abortion. It
is not the reason for fetal anomalies and health of
(24:09):
the mother that late abortions are conducted. That is actually untrue.
It happens far more on just a convenience an election,
rather than the other side wants to admit.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Executive Director Colorado Catholic Conference Brittany Vessely joining us after
her debate earlier this week on Amendment seventy nine. I
thought she did a very good job in articulating this position.
But to her point, if you find a doctor death
like Warren Hearn who's willing to do it, and the
Democrats insist well, we're just going to respect that's a
choice between a woman and her doctor. Then that baby,
(24:45):
it's a baby can be aborted for any reason at
any time, or for no reason at all, just a
whim just I don't want it. That is the Colorado law.
That's as it stands right now, regardless of Amendment seventy nine.
And I want you answer this part. There seemed to
be a sticking point here, Brittany, between yourself and Danny Newsom.
And again she's the director of strategic Partnerships for Cobalt,
(25:08):
that's an abortion organization, and this is what she said
about parental notification.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Do you believe that parents should not be involved in
their child's reproductive health decisions?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Danny, you have one minute, thank.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You, Russell.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Brittany, I will state again that Proposition seventy nine says
absolutely nothing about parental notification. Parental notification was passed by
Colorado voters in nineteen eighty four. It's a constitutional amendment,
and this amendment says absolutely nothing about it. The gut
Marker Institute doesn't have anything to do with Colorado. It's
a respected source, but it doesn't have anything to do
(25:41):
with Colorado. So you're injecting untruth into this discussion. Again,
Proposition seventy nine has nothing to do with parental notification
and does not repeal the requirement that a parent be
notified of a miner's intent to obtain an abortion.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Brittany, were you injecting untruths into the converse? Station? No?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
And I actually loved going back to parental notification with
Danny because I could tell it was really getting under
her skin, and it was actually in that clip and
the same breath that she said abortion is healthcare and
there should be no restrictions. So well, which is it, Danny,
Because if there's no restrictions, there are no parent there's
no parental notification. But here is what the language an
(26:22):
amendment seventy nine states the government shall not deny, impede,
or discriminate against a proposed right to abortion. That is
constitutional language that means that any other law has any
restriction or impediment to somebody's access to abortion is removed.
That includes parental notification. The legal scholars who have looked
(26:45):
at this said that includes parental notification. The Gutlocker Institute,
which is the policy armor Planned Parenthood, cite parental notification
as restricted to abortion access. So this is why the
pro abortion lobbies such as Cobalts and Planned Parenthood of
the Rocky Mountain include shall not impede against the right
to abortion in this ballot proposition in Colorado and in
(27:07):
every state that's considering a ballot proposition, because they know
full well that means parental notification is gone. So a
fifteen year old girl can be coercid into an abortion
and her parents will not have a right to know
because if they did, that would be restrictive to her
right to abortion, her quote unquote right to abortion, which
is part of the Amendment seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Brittany Vessellly, Executive director, Colorado Catholic Conference, There's one other
portion here I want you to respond to, is actually
at the very beginning where she explains the rationale for
wanting to put this into the constitution through Amendment seventy
nine and the political reasoning behind it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
The Reproductive Health Equity Act is statutory protection. Statutory protection
can be overturned with a change in the state legislature
and with an anti abortion with an anti abortion governor.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So what this will do.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Was add an extra layer of protection against politics politicians
and religious partisans who would try to inject their personal
religious or moral beliefs on the rest of us, and
that is why we need a constitutional protection. Secondly, I
believe I believe Brittany said that Proposition seventy nine would
(28:21):
repeal parental notification. Proposition seventy nine has nothing to do
with parental notification. Currently, a minor under the age of
eighteen who's seeking abortion care must obtain or must notify
a parent, of one parent or a guardian of their
intent to obtain abortion care. Proposition seventy nine does nothing
(28:43):
about parental notification.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Those are two separate issues.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Taxpayer funding right now we in Colorado, we have private
health insurance which must be.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Coming for that time. We addressed that second part. But
the first part I found rich and hypocritical at the
highest level, Brittany, because wasn't it party politics, politicians injecting
their views on behalf of Colorado's who passed this abortion
law in the first place.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Exactly, it's hyperbolic to say the least that Colorado is
going to have any restriction on the abortion access in
the near future. When you have an activist pro abortion
administration under Governor Polis. We have a near supermajority of progressive,
pro abortion activists in our state legislature, and we have
(29:31):
very pro abortion courts. Colorado is not the American South.
Any type of quote unquote abortion ban on the federal
level does not survive scrutin me under the Dobbs decision,
because Dobbs sent abortion legislation back to the states, and
Colorado already has the Reproductive Health Equity Act permitting abortion
for all nine months, and the subsequent three abortion laws
(29:53):
that also addressed areas of Amendment seventy nine that Danny
untruthfully has said it doesn't exist in Colora law already.
So for her to for Danny to make an argument
that we need this to codify a potential ban for
the future, that's not the direction of Colorado. Colorado is
very blue and the only reason to do this and
(30:13):
this is where she was going, and Ryan, he said,
you wish we could get to the only reason to
completely remove section fifty of Article five in the Constitution,
which is what Amendment seventy nine is really after, is
to open the door for direct tax pay funding for abortion.
That is not simply a fix for public officials access
(30:34):
to medicate. What that does is allowed for our very progressive,
poor pro abortion state legislature to come back in January
of twenty twenty five and allocate a multi million dollar
allocation for abortion procedures and travel for out of state
women so that the states that are surrounding us to
have restrictions on abortion and life affirming laws, those women
(30:57):
can travel to the State of Colorado on our tax
dollar and have abortions on our tax dollar here in
the state of Colorado. That's something organ has already done
with a fifteen million dollars allocation responding to Idaho's heartbeat law,
and it's exactly what the pro abortion lobby in Colorado
is after because it lines their own pockets.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It was a bad night for COBALT's Danny Newsom, and
that was largely due in credit to Brittany Vesseli, our guests,
the executive director for the Colorado Catholic Conference. You can
find out more online Ceocatholic dot org and don't forget
vote no on Amendment seventy nine. Brittany. Always thankful for
your time, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Joining us today, Thank you for having me. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Take a break, We'll come back. We'll wrap it up
with your text. You can send them. There's still time,
don't panic. Thirty three one to oh three, filling in
for Michael Brown, Ryan schuling back.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
After this, Brian, why would any Catholic, Jewish person, oil person,
gun owner think about voting Democrat.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Only if they hated themselves in their rights? It's the
only answer I have, because you make a good point.
The left has become so extreme. I mean, when you
lose Elon Musk, and you lose Rfk Junior, and you
lose Telsea Gabbard, you know, these are no small things.
They've lost Joe Rogan, who was but that's not a
(32:17):
good trade for them. It's not a good trade.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
They gained some things too.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Have at it, enjoy. This is a Texter along those lines.
I'm Catholic and so I read the Archbishop's letter on
this issue, Amendment seventy nine we were talking about with
Britney Vessel in the previous segment, and I'm in your camp.
My question is how come you haven't been doing advertising
on television? Well, me, personally, I don't have the money.
Every time I turn the TV on, I see these
(32:44):
women saying it's my right, my body. I decide, and
I haven't heard a single thing to oppose that, so
I predict sadly that they will win and we will lose.
You're not wrong, Texter. It's frustrating to me too. I
consider myself very much a moderate on this issue. I
prefer life. I want them to be as few abortions
as possible. If there are abortions, I'd like them to
(33:06):
be as early as possible. I hate late term abortion.
I don't like midterm abortion. I think there's a heartbeat law.
There's a six week, there's an eight week there's something
in there that I would be okay with personally. I
don't want to outlaw abortion outright, but I don't like
it being an electric procedure at any point in the
pregnancy for no reason. Woman's having a bad day, and
I'm here to tell you everybody has a bad day,
(33:29):
and they going I don't want this baby anymore. I
can't afford it. It's an inconvenience.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Are you saying that an emotional pregnant woman would never
be emotional about something.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I'm gonna sound like a sexist, but I'm telling you,
as she walks in, she's just having a bad day.
I'm not even exaggerating. And she finds a doctor death
like we mentioned, who exists Warren Hearn in Boulder. Yeah,
we'll tear that thing out. You, We'll kill it, don't worry,
not a second thought, no reason, no restriction, because they
can't afford to surrender guardrails on this issue. Right, there's
(33:58):
no three day waiting period, No touche big Ley. There
should be because you're murdering a baby at that point.
However you feel about it, but you're right. The funding
on abortion is one of the top leftist issues in America,
along with the Union. So it's a difficult climb and
hopefully Britney Vessely can help make it. Vote no on
(34:19):
Amendment seventy nine. I'm back with you tomorrow and later
today here on six point thirty km
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