11-17-25 - 9am - Michelle's Hair and Epstein Files

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the second week of The Dragon Redbeard Show
with the talent Michael D.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Brown. You got it. Yeah, second week. Here we go,
second week. And I walked into the studio this morning,
and I realize that, gosh, I'm just a dumb white guy.
I'm a dumb white guy. And apparently some people don't
like dumb white guys. They just don't like white guys
at all. In fact, if you happen to be an

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oppressed lawyer whose race is black, and you might have
gone to a very prestigious school, you work for a
large healthcare company, you did a you were just amazing.
And then you married the state senator. Yeah, you married

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the state senator. And of all the places, the wonderful
state of Illinois, or some people say Illinois because it
is just a bunch of noise out of that state.
And then when you suddenly find yourself as the wife
of US senator, and then you find yourself as floatus, floatus,
that's that's not what you get when you got a

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stuffy No, that's that's flam. I'm not talking about phlam.
I'm talking about floatus. Michelle Obama has decided that she
stridently wants us to know that she dislikes white people
for oppressing her hair. Now what I find really fascinated
about how about her upset about her hair is she
goes on well, and by the way, Caucasians are not

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the only people that she holds in disdain. You know,
we have three races we have We have Caucasian, Negroid,
and Mongoloid. Those are the three categories of races. Everything
else is an ethnicity or a subset of those three categories.
But it's not only Caucasians that she holds in disdain.
The whole country apparently has a whole lot of growing

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up to do because we didn't elect Kamala Harris based
on her DEI crdentials. I don't know where she's at,
Michelle my Belle, I don't know who she's speaking to.
I frankly don't care. But over an X, I discover
that well, as she sits in a designer outfit with

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some sort of Kate flowing underneath her as if she's superwoman,
she decides to lecture us.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Do you think that that impacts the room that we've
made for a woman to be president? Well, as we
saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's
why I'm like, don't even look at me about running,
because you all are lying you're not ready for a woman.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
You are not, So don't waste my time. You know,
we got a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Of growing up to do, and there's still, I'm sadly
a lot of men who do not feel like they
can be led by a woman.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And we saw it. Yeah, let me just pause for
a moment. I think I speak for both Dragon and myself.
We are both led by women. I also have to
chime in here too. It's like my mother is was
a franchisey owner of Subway sandwiches for almost thirty years,
and she got her first store in the eighties. So

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you can't tell me that women can't lead or women
are oppressed by men. No, it's been going on, and
it's been happening for forty years.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Did you get that?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Did you get your red head from your mother or
your father father's side side? Okay, so your mother was
obviously Caucasian. Yeah, so she had white privilege. So that's that.
And I suppose the last time I was in Subway, now,
I think you can get whole wheat bread buns. But
I bet at the time, it was just white buns.
I bet all your mother sould was just white buns,

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just white buns. And if you went in there and
you wanted brown bread, no no, no, no, no, you can't
have that, just white buns. So don't give me this
crap about how your mother was all. You know, she
was in the and she was a leader and everything else,
because I mean, look at you. Look at what the
loser you are. So you know, it's Monday morning and
I'm on a roll. Already, here we go. What was

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a question? So we don't need to ask it again? Yeah,
we don't need to ask you again now. In response
to a question that was framing the presidential election strictly
in terms of gender, she calls out this, well, as
we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready.

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That's why I'm like, I don't even look at me
about running, because you all are lying. You're not ready
for a woman. You are not, So don't waste my time.
You know, we got a lot of growing up to do.
They're never going to be satisfied. I don't care what
your race is, I don't care what your gender is.
I don't care what you think your gender is apparently

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unless you fit some particular ideology or something on the
spectrum of what ever, then we're just not ready. Remember,
she infamously proclaimed during the Obama campaign, gotsh that doesn't
that seem on there?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I remember the night that I was watching the election
when Obama won, and I knew he's gonna win. But
it's one of those things where you're watching a horse
race and your horse is like four links behind, and
you know your horse isn't gonna win, but you just
keep thinking that maybe the maybe the first place horse
is going to stumble, something's going to happen, And so

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I just keep watching the returns, knowing that mathematically it's
not gonna change. Sean McCain is not gonna win. But
I just keep you know, I just falsely keep convincing
myself that it is. But you and that seems like
decades ago, doesn't it. It seems like so long ago.
Well remember when she claimed the quote for the first
time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well, well there was also, yes, there was also this
quote by his then by president.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
He got the first start out.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
In America.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Here it was articulate and bright and clean and bic
looking guy.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
He's clean. I mean, let's start with the fact that
he was half white and half black. Although everybody likes
to refer to miss black, let's start without that he
is black. And there is Joe Biden soon to be
his vice president and then soon to be the corpse
in Weekend with Bernie's that occupied the White House for
a while and is saying that he was clean. Now, remember,

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he's black, he's clean, and he's articulate. He's one of
the first and only clean, black, articulate blacks I've ever met.
And nobody calls out Joe Biden for the racism. For
the first time in my life, in my adult life,
I am proud of my country. Now that she's no
longer in office, she's back to being ashamed of the country.

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I think, well, I think the feeling out of being
mute rtual the former first ingrat I mean, I'm sorry,
the former first Lady doesn't like it that we are
not ready to elect a profoundly terrible presidential candidate tymply
on the basis of her not being a male but
being a female. In addition to that being a mixed
female of what was she was black in West Indian

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or something. I forget what Kamala Harris was. You know what,
I forget because it doesn't make any difference. It didn't
make any difference to me what Kamala Harris was in
terms of her skin color, or her gender, or what
was it between her legs or anything else. I did
not care. I was not going to vote for her
because she was incompetent, absolutely incompetent. But it amazes me

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that she still says these crazy, crazy things about oppression
and people just continue to fall for it. Now the
same in the same presentation, the wife of the historic
first black president will never forgive Caucasians for handing her
fame and fortune, probably on an affirmative action basis. She

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still festers with hostility's She even went on in that
same presentation to accuse Caucasians of oppressing her hair. Yes, no,
not pressing her hair, oppressing oppressing her hair. Now, what's
interesting is when you when you look at these which
I assume that mister Redbeard at some point might put

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these up on Michael says go here dot com, which,
by the way, Dragon I discovered over the weekend that
at least on the computers downstairs. When you go to
uh six thirty khow do station over there? You know,
across the tracks, We're still over there. And that sometimes
that some computers. When you say Michael says, go here

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dot com, he'll go to here other places down there,
it goes over there. I figure that one out, figure
that one out. I don't get it. I don't know. Anyway,
we're oppressing her hair, yes, she said she felt obligated. Obligated. Now,
wonder what you're the former first lady of the United
States of America, the wife of the first essensibly black

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president of the United States of America. Your husband is
building this monstras that he looks like some sort of looks.
I'm not sure what it looks like that he's building.
Chicago's a memorial to himself, supposedly a library, but it's
not gonna be a kind of library that you can
go in. So I'm not really sure what's going on
with Chicago and that monolith that he's building. But anyway,

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she appears in this forum whatever she's at, and her
hair is straight straight yet here she is obviously invited
to come and speak because apparently this audience of I
don't whether there were any you know, men in there

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or not that there were certainly women in there, and
she felt like she still has to straighten her hair.
I have news for her. I don't care what her
hair looks like. So prepare to be educated, she says.

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Let me explain something to white people. Our hair comes
out of our head naturally in a curly pattern. So
when we're straightening it to follow your beauty standards, we
are trapped by the straightness. So because of whites, blacks
can't swim or go to the gym either. Did you
know that? Yes? I learned so much over the weekend.

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It was fascinating, she says, And we run away from
the water. People won't go to the gym because we're
trying to keep our hair straight. For y'all, it's exhausting,
and it's so expensive, and it takes up so much time,
she whined, and then she went on to suggest that
was in the best interest of white people to allow
black women to abandon these alleged beauty expects asians. Well, okay, Michelle,

(11:02):
I hereby, if you're going to grant me that much
power as his gendered white male, then I'll exercise that power,
and I hereby bestow upon you the permission to let
your hair go curly. Yes. Oh wait, wait, wait a minute,

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no wait, she's a Democrat, so we need to do
it coercively. She went on to say, braves are for
you all so we can work harder and focus on
the work. So why do we need to Why do
we need an act, an act of law, to tell
white folks to get out of our hair. She's apparently
referring to the Insane Crown Act, which would establish special

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legal privileges for blacks on the basin of their hairstyles.
It actually passed in the House, but it was stopped
in the Senate by, of all things, the filibuster. Yes,
some people stood up and said, why why why are
we establishing that you have to have special privileges for
blocks based upon their hairstyles. I don't know that on

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radio that we have any particular There's nothing in my
contract that says anything about my dress or my hairstyle
or anything else. And there's really not that much, you know,
except where advanced hair is trying to fix it. There's
not a lot of hair back here on the backside
which I need to get out to advance here and
get that fixed. But really the Crown Act, so I
would I would suggest that if you want to start
the weekend or the week the weekday off, now you

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need to suppress any urges to touch Michelle Obama's hair
or to say anything about it. But this truly is
the dumb assy that we now live in that a
woman of privilege. She is truly a woman of privilege.
They still have that. Don't get me wrong. I'm not
complaining or somehow bemoaning this because she is a former

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First Lady. Her husband is a former president of the
United States of America. So I believe that Congress rightfully
allows them an office allowance. They get Secret Service protection
for the rest of their lives, although at some point,
if you've seen Bill Clinton and Neil Rick Clinton out
in the streets of New York City, it looks like
the people that really couldn't quite make the standards of

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the current Secret Service. They usually get assigned to former presidents.
So I don't know what his detail looks like, but
he saws a security detail, and they get driven everywhere
and they fly private gents. They have a home in
a Hawaii, they have home in Chicago. They have a
home on Cape cod Come on, you're telling me you're

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privileged and you are going to denounce Caucasians for oppressing
your hair. Yeah, I think it's time stop with it,
just stop the insanity. But it shows how I believe,
and I sin silly, do believe that that much like
homelessness or drug addiction or anything else becomes an industry,

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racism itself has become an industry. And so we're never
going to quite get to that place where we have
And I don't think we should because I don't think
we can. I don't want to encourage bigotry. I don't
like bigotry. I think people who are biggots are pretty
much Neanderthals. But nonetheless, that's part of being human. And

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some people are going to have certain, you know, preferences,
They're going to have certain bigoted ideas, and I accept that.
I don't like it, but I accept it because I
know that, Well, some people are never going to change
no matter how you point out how stupid and neanderthal
their ideas are, that they're going to be that way.
But as long as you keep pushing racist ideas like somehow,

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why Caucasian, But that's redundant. Why Caucasian men are somehow
oppressing black women's hair. I think that's part of the
racism complex, the racism industrial complex. And that you can't swim,
I mean, really, you're going to use that old trope
that blacks can't swim. You're seriously going to say that

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to Olympians and others who win swimming contests. Or you
can't go to the gym because your hair will get
wet and get curly. Again, I want to emphasize the Michelle.
She has my permission and she can go do whatever
she wants to do.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
And to me, that just sounds like a you problem,
not a US problem exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But again, that's part of what they do dragon is
they flip it so that while it is a them
problem and it's this self imposed idea that oh, there's
this magic film or magic curtain or these bars or
whatever that prevent me from doing this, I pretty much say,
I bet you have a hairstylist that could do your

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hair in.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Any fashion you wanted, and you would pay hundreds hundreds
of dollars for it, But you'd rather show up at
a conference at a forum and have your hair straight,
little curls in.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
The end, you don't like little some little sixties girl,
you know, sixties California girl, and just vision moan about
it because that perpetuates the idea that somehow the entire
world is racist, and quite honestly, yeah, I'm just tired
of it.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
Ama needs to look up gold in my air. I'm
pretty sure that woman never saw a stylist in her life.
Yet she was powerful and respected on the world stage
and never took anything from anybody. Makes me think Michelle
Obama is a product of the American public school system.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
As a matter, she actually is.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
She is.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Wall Street Journal has an editorial House editorial that first
appeared let me make sure on Friday, I think, and
the first sentence, I think sums up the whole Epstein
matter pretty well. I take it back. It's not a
house editorial. This is written by Ohoman Jenkins, who is

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a member of the editorial board. He writes, I know
nothing beyond what's in the press, but I somehow doubt
Donald Trump was among the needy types who relied on
Jeffrey Epstein for access to women they would not have
had to access to otherwise. It's a point we'll come
back to. So over the weekend, we've seen this shift

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that Trump has made on the Epstein files. Now, people
will criticize him in saying, well, you saw the light
at the end of the tunnel, and it was a
train coming towards you, so you jumped ahead. Even if
that is true, he still made the right decision. And
the right decision was Oh, look, I can count and

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I've got probably forty Republicans who are going to vote
to release the files. This thing's not going to go
away until we finally release the files, and we'll get
the grand jury testimony in a minute. And so therefore
I'm going to jump in front of this issue and
I'm going to suggest that the House vote and release
the files. I'm all for that. I think it's the

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right decision, and I understand politically why he did it.
I don't understand for the life of me, other than
I mean, I can speculate till the tiles come home
about why I think he wants to avoid it. And
guess what. One part of my speculation is not that
he was engaged in pedophilia, Because if there were evidence

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that Donald Trump was engaged in pedophilia, we would have
known about that long before now. We were known about
that back in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. They've had
nine years to disclose evidence about his relationship with any
of those victims of Jeffrey Epstein, and none come to light.

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You may recall that just last weekend the Democrats were like, oh,
here's the smoking gun, and they released three emails. And
we went through those three emails. There's no smoking gun there,
none whatsoever. So why to change Well, I think that
part of it was the Democrats, according to at least

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and I agree with that the Democrats were getting the
Epstein wars completely wrong. They were trivializing themselves just as
their party sences a possible return to power. They write
The Wall Street Journal does, interesting and perhaps surprising advice
has been flowing from the Democratic Party's loyal handicaps after

(20:00):
this month's gubernatoril wins in New Jersey and Virginia. Don't
make impeachment the calling card in next year's congressional mid terms.
They say, consistent overbetting on the unpopularity of mister Trump
has been the reciprocal of every blown opportunity till now.
This includes the twenty twenty four presidential race, which was
winnable even amid the Democrat Party's world historical malpractices. Unfortunately,

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this advice conflicts with activists who insists the Democrats show
fight with the thankless government shut down that finally ended
this week. Now they want more fight for Epstein, never
mind that this represents the sorriest possible way of building
on recent electoral successes and mister Trump shrinking approval ratings.
Read carefully in oppress. Some read carefully in oppressed, somewhat

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chastened by its previous misreporting, and you learn a couple
of things. Mister Trump and Epstein socialized in Palm Beach,
but Epstein and his chief accuser, the late Virginia Five,
both left clear testimony mister Trump never behaved improperly. Now

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let's think about this nuance. Yeah, there's an email out
there that says something to the effect that you know,
I've met Donald This is from Epstein and to one
of his cohorts. Yeah, I met Donald Trump, and I
don't think there's a decent sell in his entire body. Okay,
some people may think of that about me, they may

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think it about you, but it doesn't mean we're pedophiles
or that we engaged in illegal or illicit activity sexual
activity with minors. In fact, there are dirt bags in
the world that never do that. There's still dirt bags,
but they're not guilty of pedophilia. But this is where

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the cabal, and quite frankly, I think the Democrats try
to conflate the issue. They want you to think that
somehow that Epstein and the fact that they knew each other,
or that they dined together or they were seen together
at parties together, or that he may have been at
mar Lago, or that Trump may have been at Epstein's

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place in I don't know, New York or New Mexico
or wherever he might have been. That does not mean
that there was any illicit or any illegal activity taking place,
And so far none of those has been disclosed nothing.
So yes, disclose the files. I also advocate for disclosing
the files, primarily because I'm kind of sick of the story.

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I'm sick of the story. But let's remember something else.
You're not going to get the grand jury testimony. The
grand jury testimony the Department of Justice has gone to
the judges. I think in the Southern District of New York.
It may be it may be the Eastern District of
New York, but I think it's the Southern District. But
whichever district is doesn't make any difference. They go and

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what they do is they request that the judge unseal
all the grand jury testimony. Now there's a reason that
we have a very ironclad rule against releasing grand jury
testimony because often people testify and they're completely innocent of anything,

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yet they may have information about a crime that was committed,
and so now you're going to get lumped in with
those crimes. And in fact, while I advocate for the
release of the Epstein files, and I think that Trump
made the right decision here, there are going to be people,
probably people that we don't like, maybe some Democrats. In fact,

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I think the Democrats ought to be you know, Bill
Clinton and some of the others probably ought to be
worried about it, not because they necessarily did anything wrong,
but because their names going to appear along an email
that says or a picture of or a correspondence between
Jeffrey Epstein and you know, some Democrats somewhere. That's how

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stupid our society is. Gotten, not being able to nuance
between evidence of illegal activity and evidence of and I
know that for these for many of these people, it
is they all move in these giant circles. There are

(24:21):
circles that you and I have no relationship to. I've
never met Jamie Diamond, for example, the chairman of the
board of JP Morgan Chase in doubt that I will
now have I perhaps been. I don't know. Let's see,
I've been through some White House Correspondence dinners. Was he there?
He may have been. Could you search and find a

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picture of me and Jamie Diamond at the same White
House Correspondence dinner? Perhaps you could. Does that mean that
we know each other or have a relationship or anything else? Know,
it does not not at all. But people are going
to get thrown into that bucket of oh, you went
to a party where Jeffrey Epstein was or went to
his house because he was having a dinner party and

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you were there, And so then people jumped to the
next conclusion that therefore you must be guilty of something.
And I would suggest that that is absolutely false. But
at least we're going to get the files released. Then
everybody can have their heyday and their by can yawn
and then we can all go home.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Mike or Michael, Hey, Mike or Michael. I don't get
to listen live anymore, so leaving this talkback is like
homework for me. Anyway, at the end of your eleven
AM hour, there's this really shrill, shrieky voice that comes through,
and I don't get to listen to the end of
the podcast. I was wondering if y'all could just find

(25:41):
that and squash it anyway, if it saved one Gouber,
wouldn't it be worth it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, it would be worth it. It'd be very much
worth it. Margaret Brennan over on Face the Nation this weekend,
talks to a Democh lawmaker about the Epstein files and posits.

Speaker 9 (26:03):
This, well, but private healthcare costs are also going up,
but on this topic of toxic environments here Congress and
Swase Democrats who won elections just a few days ago,
credited their wins to this affordability issue and the message
focused on that. Can you explain the focus this past

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week in the House by Democrats on the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Is this a tactic to distract from the failure to
attract healthcare changes or is there something else going on here?
I mean, does this speaker putting it to a vote
end this issue?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Wow? Real journalism for a moment, real journalism. Are you
just focused on Epstein to distract because so far there's
been nothing there? And you know, the real issue is
healthcare and the Obamacare subsidies. So why are you so
focused on Epstein? What's there?

Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think it's a combination of factors of people shining
their lights on the most the hot topic at the time.
You know, Jeffrey Epstein, of course, is an important topic.
I'm sure I'll vote to release's files, but that's not
my priority. My priority is to focus on the things
that the American people care about, affordability, immigration, taxes, crime,
and healthcare.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So Trump decides that he's going to join with the
Republicans and call for transparency, release the files, open the files,
and then Democrats start appearing on the Sunday news shows
and they're like, well, well, you know, this is not me.
You know, it's just one of those hot topics people
like to talk about. I'm really focused on this, this, this,
and this. Well, why does sudden change? Why the sudden change?

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I thought this was going to I thought this was
going to show that Donald Trump was a pedophile, and
then we were going to, you know, have another impeachment
and we're going to kick him out of office again. Wow.
So now a journalist ask you about why, and you
avoid the question and say, oh, Insteade, I ALMOSTOK. About
something else here.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
That's what people are fighting about. That's what they're concerned about.
That's what we should be focused on. In Congress.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Well, Congressman Bacon, is the speaker putting this to a
vote and the Epstein issue and get you back onto healthcare.
I mean, the speaker said this is all a political exercise.
Certainly the families the victims don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I think the speaker realizes the train has left the
station on us. Let's rip the band aid off and
get it done now. I wish the President realized that
the more the White House push us back on us,
it's you know, it just looks bad, right. I mean,
it was the Thorney General counsel on all these white binders.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And it does look bad. And it looks bad because
the White House messed it up from the very beginning
when Pam Bondi came out with cash Betel, and they
had those big white binders. There was nothing new in
that that was stuff that was already publicly available, had
already been released, but they made it appear as if
it was some big up and deal, and it was not,

(28:58):
was not at all. So they've watched this from the
very beginning, and I don't know why Trump has taken
this position. Is he trying to protect the victims, He
very well may be. Is he trying to protect a friend,
He may well be. I don't know. You're not going
to get the grand jury testimony. Just get that out
of your head. You're not going to get the grand

(29:20):
jury testimony unless we break the ironclad rule that that
remains secret so that people are willing and able to
testify about things they know about when it comes to
criminal investigations, and then releasing the files. Just do it,
because if we really believe in transparency, if we really

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believe in okay, this is a distraction from everything that's
going on. If even Margaret Brennan is beginning to believe
that it's a distraction from the issues that she would
like to talk about, and quite frankly, the issues that
I wish we could debate about Obamacare and is it
really effective or not effective? And what do the substies
get us besides just debt. Then no, let's release the
files and get on to the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You'll release all this information and then a month later,
so no, we're not. So it's been a pr blunder
from the beginning, and I think the Speaker's right, this
is going to happen. So let's get it done and
vote on it. And we've got to realize this still
has to go to the Senate, that has to go
to the President for signature. Meanwhile, our Oversight Committee is
releasing thousands and thousands of pages of evidence concerning of.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Stein, so that's going to continue to come out anyway,
all the stuff House Oversight Committee continues to investigate, they'll
continue to release it. And if this bill does pass,
I guarante mn to you, it'll be just fifteen minutes
afterwards people will start releasing that information too, So hold
on to your hat. And then one final reminder before
we go to break, and that is if you want

(30:47):
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it to three three one zero three, keyword mic or
Michael three three one zero three I don't read the others.