11-9-24 The Weekend Hour 3: Shame on FEMA for Discriminating Against Trump Supporters

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Goo night.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job.

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of the programs that you need. Let's go to the
Democrats for a while, and let's start with I mean,

(01:30):
Gavin Newsom's done it. The New York Attorney General Letitia
James has done it. New York Governor Kathy Hochel has
done it. Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker's done it. I don't
want New Jersey Governor what's his name, Murphy's done it.
They've all come out and they've made these statements, these
really stupid statements, which shows they're just trying to seek

(01:54):
relevance and trying to seek the limelight that if Trump
does anything to come after you, why I'm going to
protect you. Really, what's Trump gonna do? Are they talking
about abortion? Are they talking about someone who's in the

(02:17):
country illegally? How about some way that's in the country
illegally and is a criminal. Now, if you're in the
country illegally, you're already a criminal. But let's say that
you're in the country illegally, criminal number one. And you're
in the country illegally and you've also been convicted of murderer,
you're wanted for murder back in your home country, you're
a criminal number two. You got a double whammy. So

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what if Trump comes after those people? And isn't it
interesting that someone like Letitia James, now she's the Attorney
generalan of New York, who went after Trump because Trump
said that he thought Marlogo was worth you know, one
hundred and let's just say, two hundred million dollars, and
the bank said, no, we think it's only worth one

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hundred and fifty million dollars. So we're going So Leticia
James used a consumer protection law. Now I emphasize this
because a consumer protection law is every state has them.
Where a company of business, a person defrauds somebody. They

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they scam grandma out of one thousand dollars, or they
scam grandma or grandpa out of the out of their
entire life savings, or they you know, they sell a
defective product and they refuse to stand behind their guarantee
and so grandma or grandpa are at the you know,
the thousand dollars they pay for your product or your service,
so somebody lost money. Those are consumer protection laws. So

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in the in the Trump case brought by Letitia James,
the argument goes like this, Trump overvalued his is commercial holdings,
his commercial properties, and and the bank said, no, your
building's not worth that amount of money. Let's say that
one of his buildings in Lower Manhattan on Wall Street,

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that he said was worth one hundred million dollars. The
bank said, no, we think it's worth you know, ninety
million dollars. So they haggle, you know, kind of like
when you buy a house and the seller says, my
house is worth five hundred thousand dollars and you say, no,
we did an appraisal. We think it's worth four hundred

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thousand dollars. But there's a premium. We'll offer you four
hundred and ten thousand. You say, okay, I'll take it. Well,
that's what happened with Trump. Yet he has been indicted
in this case for violating a consumer protection law where
he said the property was worth one amount, the bankers

(04:58):
said it was worth a different amount. The insurance companies
that were going to ensure insure the building says worth
a different amount. Yet everybody came to an agreement. Trump
signed a promissory note, he paid them back with interest,
He paid his insurance premiums, never defaulted on anything, and

(05:22):
nobody was harmed. Yet this attorney general went after him.
And when it went up on appeal, she kind of
got her hat handed to her because the appellate judges
started asking her questions like why did you use this statute?
Who was harmed here? Who are you to determine how

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much the building was worth? And how why this bond?
Remember he had to put up most almost a billion
dollars for a bond and it's still accruing interest every day.
So what are you doing here? I think that case
will get thrown out. Now, Letitia James, like a lot

(06:07):
of attorney generals, like right here in Colorado, our attorney
general wants to be the next governor. Well, I'm sure
the Letitia James. Since she can no longer be the
first female governor of New York because Kathy Hochel did
that when Clomo resigned, Well now she wants to be
the first black female governor. My god, Democrats, get over

(06:28):
your stupid identity politics. But listen to her.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
With other democratic ages across this country, to make sure
that we would be ready to respond to any attempt
to roll back our rights. So here we are. We've
studied their platforms, We've identified certain possibilities back patterns. We've
created contingency plans.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Wait a minute, you created a contingency plan to do what, sweetheart?
So if Trump got elected, you created a contingency plan
just in case, by some fluke he got elected to
do what? Go after ing for what?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So no matter what the next administration throws at us,
we're ready. We're ready to respond to their attacks. We're
ready to respond to any attempts to cut or eliminate
any funding to the great State of New York. As
the governor outlined, wait.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
A minute, Congress has got the right and the president
can withhold funding for just about anything. Now you can
go to court and see off it if you want to.
But the president has the right to rescind funds that
have not yet been obligated. Yes, I don't want to
go through the whole appropriations process, but the president can say,

(07:51):
you know what, we haven't obligated this bucket of money
over here yet, So I'm going to do what's called recision.
I'm going to rescind that expended ture. I'm going to
send that back to the Treasury, back to the Office
of Management and Budget, and we're not going to spend
that money. Sucks to be you in New York, but
we're not going to spend the money. We're broke. We're

(08:11):
thirty six trillion dollars in debt.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So just step So despite what has happened on the
national stage, we will continue to stand tall in the
face of injustice, revenge or retribution.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Ooh, they're so afraid of revenge and retribution. Huh, what
are you afraid of that? Because the president of the
United States of America has to follow the constitution, he
has to follow the law. What do you think he's
going to do to you? What are you scared of?
Why don't you just come out and tell us what

(08:49):
do you think he's going to do? Rather than go
auad and give a speech that you know that in fact,
this is a Fox News SoundBite. So it comes from
Fox News. So I got national attention and what what
what's she telling you here? She's not telling you anything.
She's making a political speech that says if Donald Trump
does anything that I don't like. And by the way,

(09:12):
New Yorker's I'm going to protect you well woop poop
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zero three. Just start your message with one of two
words Mike or Michael, either one. When I first ran
across this story about FEMA, I also he didn't think
it was true. When I was the I served as

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the general counsel at FEMA, the deputy director of FEMA,
and then the director of FEMA before become the Undersecretary
of Homeland Security. So you might say I kind of
started in the mail room. And I say that because
as general counsel, I had to understand and know and
be able to deal with and manage a group of

(10:14):
I don't know, one hundred lawyers or so. And I
understand all the rules and regulations and the statutes, the
Stafford Act, all of those things that regulate and govern
how FEMA operates, and without getting into any of the minutia,
suffices to say that FEMA is one of those organizations

(10:39):
in the federal government that regardless of what it does,
it's going to get criticized. It can do everything right
and Congress will find something wrong. He can do everything
wrong and Congress will give it. He prays on it
and give it even more money. I'll give you an example.

(11:04):
In two thousand and four, in the middle of a
presidential election, there was four hurricanes hit Florida and either
the third or fourth one. It's been so long now
I forget which one, but one of them was going
to hit the Atlantic side, the Miami Dade County, West

(11:28):
Palm Beach, that area of Florida. So what we call
the cone of uncertainty. You've seen those cones on the
weather maps where they show the tropical storm beginning to
grow into a hurricane and it kind of makes it's
kind of shaped like a hot air balloon. And that

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cone of uncertainty is where all the different models, I mean,
there are hundreds of models that the National Hurricane Center
uses to predict where a hurricanes likely to land make landfall.
The strength of the hurricane and where it's likely to
go and dissipate, or sometimes even it'll make landfall, kind

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of go up the East coast and then turn out
into the Atlantic and turn into a hurricane again. So
I've always referred to it as the cone of uncertainty,
because you never know Mother Nature is going to do
what it wants to do. And when I say there
are hundreds hundreds of models, I mean literally, there are
hundreds of models. There are domestic US models, there are

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European models, there are models from Asia. There are models
from all over the world that track these hurricanes and
typhoons to try to predict where they're going to go
and what they're going to be like. So in two
thousand and four, we have one that's approaching the Miami Dade,
Palm Beach, that area, Fort Lauderdale, all of that area,

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and we've already had two or three already hit Florida.
So almost every county in Florida either has been or
is about to be affected by one of these four hurricanes.
So I make the decision to do what's called a
pre disaster declaration. In other words, it's obvious we have

(13:23):
a hurricane coming the governor at the time, Jeb Bush
is going to request a disaster declaration after the hurricane hits,
but I'm going to go ahead and pre deploy some
assets not in the direct line of the hurricane. And
I'm also going to do a pre disaster declaration, which

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means that I think that this hurricane is going to
hit anywhere from Monroe County, which is the Florida Keys,
all the way up past Fort Lauderdale West Palm Beach,
all of that area, including Miami Dade County, and I
and I sign all the paperwork to do that because

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I'm not where it's I'm not sure where it's going
to hit. Well, what happens is the hurricane at the
last moment takes a slightly turn to the north, and missus,
I mean the bulk of her I mean it's you
still have thunderstorms and flood street flooding. You still have
a little bit of the disaster hit Miami Dade County,

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but not a lot. But nonetheless, because I had done
a predisaster of declaration from Miami Dade County, I nonetheless
had to spend some money in Miami Dade County because
of some of the street flooding going on, but it
wasn't it wasn't anything major. Let's say that in the
grand scheme of things, I might have spent a couple

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of million dollars. Congress ripped me apart for that, and
I remember kind of just sitting looking at members of
Congress and the hearing, thinking USBs because had I not
done that, and the Hurricane ham made a slightly southern

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tilt and hit Miami Dade County, you'd be screaming at
me for not having done a pre disaster declaration for
Miami Dade County. So I'm screwed either way. Damned if
I do, damned if I don't. And I'm looking at
these yahoos with a little bit of disdain. But the

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one thing that I never had a problem with was
anybody ever attempting to treat any disaster victim or any
state or any county, any school district different than any
other school district or county, or state or area in general,

(15:55):
because our philosophy always was a disaster ofvictim as a
disaster victim. I worked with Republican governors and Democrat governors.
I worked with some Democrat governors and some Republican governors
for that matter, that I didn't think were really all
that smart, and some that I thought were brilliant. Some

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Democrat governors were really on top of stuff, as were
some Republican governors. It just didn't make any difference to
me because my job was as the undersecretary to take
care of that. FEMA did its job, regardless of who
the governor was, who the county commissioner was, who the

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mayor was, didn't make it. It didn't make a ratsass
difference to me. In the aftermath of Hurricane Milton, a
femous supervisor told workers in a message to quote avoid
homes advertising Trump as they canvas Lake Placid, Florida to

(17:01):
identify residents who could qualify for federal aid. According to
internal messages viewed by The Daily Wire, the supervisor, Marnie Washington,
relayed this message both verbally and in a group chat
used by the relief team, multiple government employees have told
The Daily Wire. The government employees told the Daily Wire
that at least twenty homes of Trump signs or flags

(17:23):
were skipped from the end of October and endo November
due to the guidance, meaning they were not given the
opportunity to qualify for FEMA assistance. Oh, Trump voters are
less equal than Harris voters. Hang tight. It gets worse tonight.

(17:53):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, welcome back to the
Weekend of Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me.
You know, if you like what you hear during the
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(18:17):
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ten mountain time, Monday through Friday. So back to this
THEMA story, which I just find I find it absolutely outrageous. Now,

(18:45):
FEMA is during a disaster, FEMA has a surge of
temporary employees. You have a cadre of employees that are
it's the astro cadre, is what we called it. I'm
not sure what they call it today, where people who

(19:05):
have been trained, gone through all this different kind of
training are sent into two disaster zones to do all
sorts of things. But probably one of the most important
things that they do is they go house to house.
They knock on doors to find out how people are,

(19:30):
to find if there's anybody there, to let them know,
you know, to give them information about how to register
for FEMA assistance, to find out, you know, maybe they're
immediately eligible for some immediate financial assistance, and to get
them into the system so that they can coordinate between

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their insurance company, hopefully they have some insurance. Because let
me just remind you, THEENA is not going to make
you whole. FEMA is not going to rebuild your home.
FEMA is not going to do I mean, this is
why is FEMA is just a organization that since nineteen
seventy nine, the mission has been well, they mean, they
have several missions in terms of disasters to kind of

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just help people get restarted. That's all it's supposed to do.
But it's supposed to do with do that without discrimination
for any reason, any cultural reason, political reason, any racial reason,
any sexual reason, any sexual preference reason, any gender reason,

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any religious reason, reason, for any reason whatsoever. Just no discrimination.
So imagine a femas supervisor telling those workers that I
just described people that are just trying to do to
help their fellow Americans. These are people that, oftentimes, you know,

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in a major disaster, because there's a lack of hotel
rooms or airbnbs or anything else, they may actually be
sleeping in their cars. I had employees that oftentimes slept
in their cars because there's no room. Hotels are full
of people in that area that have gone to hotels

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for shelter. So they'll drive long distances to go into
that disaster area to go knock on doors, to go
help people in the recovery centers, to help them start
getting the assistance that they may be entitled to under
federal law. These are good people. You may know some
of them. They're they're you know, oftentimes they're retired people,

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or they're people that have part time jobs where they
can take off and they can go to a disaster area.
They're just decent Americans. Well, imagine them being told by
a femous supervisor their boss to quote, avoid homes, advertise Trump.
Martie Washington was the supervisor relayed the message both verbally

(22:10):
and in a group chat. The FEMA agents ordered not
to help houses with Trump signs were operating in Highlands County,
a deep red area located in south central Florida that
back Trump by seventy percent on Tuesday. That county was
hit with tornadoes, torrential wind rain and flooding when Milton

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hit back in October. And it wasn't just Florida after Milton.
The same guidance came as the Biden administration was criticized
over its sluggish response to Hurricane Helen and rural areas
across the country. In Rhonan Mountain, Tennessee, for example, locals
told the Daily Wire that it took nearly two weeks

(22:54):
for FEMA to show up. That's in Carter County. Carter County, Tennessee.
He voted eighty one percent for Trump on Tuesday. Meanwhile,
liberals accuse the people that they discriminate against the discrimination.
You can see why Americans finally got fed up and

(23:16):
flipped them the finger by electing Trump Tuesday. I searched
around to see if I could find some other corroborating
sources for the story. Huh, well, CNN couldn't find it, ABC,
NBCCBS couldn't find it.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh, Fox News, Welcome back. A FEMA official has been
removed from their role after a message shows the employee
directing disaster relief workers to skip Holmes advertising support for
President elect Trump after devastating hurricane damage in Florida. Madison
Scarpino is live with the very latest on this story,

(23:57):
and Madison, are we learning what's happening to this employe?

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Anita, We're still waiting to clarify the exact measures that
have been taken. As you mentioned, they say that they're.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Because they're not gonna tell you. I'm gonna pause this
story for just a moment because this is personal to me.
Can you imagine what Democrats would be doing if I
had said, hey, let's come back to two thousand and
four Bush v Caerry John Kerry, remember him, O Lurch,

(24:30):
the dumbass climate zar and senator from Massachusetts. Can you
imagine if I had people under my supervision at telling
workers that as you go, if you see a carry sign,
just walk past that house, don't don't go offer them
any assistance. Congress would have hung me by the they

(24:54):
had hung me on the steps in the US Capitol here.
Fox News CA even confirm that the low level employee,
where's Diana Criswell, where's the director of FEMA? Are they
going to haul her butt before Congress and find out
what happened? Why? Probably not? Because well, I mean, Neil,

(25:14):
the Biden administration is effectively done. They're finished, so she'll
skate by with this. That's wrong.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
A FEMA official has been removed from their role after
a message shows the employee directing disaster relief workers to
skip home's advertising support for President elect Trump after devastating
hurricane damage in Florida. Madison Scarpino is live with the
very latest on this story, and Madison, are we learning
what's happening to this employee?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Anita, We're still waiting to clarify the exact measures that
have been taken. As you mentioned, they say that the
employee has been removed from their role, but FEMA tells
Fox they are deeply disturbed and horrified by this. And
now FEMA, House, Republican and Florida officials are all investigating
the incident. And this all happened in Highlands County, Florida,

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back in October last month. The county was hit hard
by Hurricane Milton and backed President elect Trump by over
fifty six percent. On Tuesday, the Daily Wire obtained private
messages showing a FEMA official instructing workers there to avoid
homes advertising Trump in a system tracking applications hurricane relief

(26:28):
workers would enter they made no contact with that resident,
saying quote Trump sign no contact per leadership, according to
the report. Now Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is calling this
a blantant weaponization of government and goes on to say
with new leadership on its way to DC, he's optimistic
these partisan bureaucrats will be fired. And Senator James Langford

(26:50):
is another Republican calling for an investigation into this. He says, quote,
my office has already been in contact with FEMA about this.
It is true. I'm grateful FEMA is making action to
address it, but will closely monitor to ensure this can
never happen again. FEMA is there to help, not discriminate,
but the agency tells us that they believe that this

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is an isolated incident and they're taking it extremely seriously.
It also says that it is reaching out to all
of the homes that may have been skipped because of this,
and it also notes that it's helped over three hundred
and sixty thousand homes in Florida already after hurricanes Helene
and Milton.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Back to you, Yeah, Madison, is so troubling that something
like that could happen. Thank you so much for that
live report, Madison's Scarpino grev Now, I.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Have a question. Do you think you'll hear anything else
about this in the future. It's Saturday, November nine, there's
seventy three days, seventy three, seventy four days to the inauguration.
What do you think is going to happen between now
and then? This one individual, this Marny Washington, may indeed

(27:59):
have been terminated, but who knows. Apparently Fox News isn't
able to confirm it, and the administration won't confirm it.
So in the X number of days left between now
and the inauguration, Democrats will get by with discriminating against
Trump supporters and we'll just go on as if nothing

(28:24):
ever happened. If anything changes in the next administration, it
needs to be accountability and Republicans having the power in
both the House and the Senate to hold people accountable,
not just hold a hearing. But hold a hearing and

(28:46):
find the truth. And then, once you ascertain the truth,
demand that the executive branch actually hold people accountable. Now,
if that happens over the next four year years now,
I hope there's not a lot of reason for it
to happen. But that deep state, that administrative state, until

(29:10):
it gets cleaned up, until it gets trimmed down the size,
until it gets the word that they will be held accountable.
Don't hold your breath. It's the weekend with Michael Brown.
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(29:38):
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(29:58):
right now at my Brown USA. I think you'll find it.
You'll find her humorous at times, and you'll find some
interesting ways to think about things. We've talked generally about
the impact of the election of Donald Trump on international affairs,

(30:19):
the economy, immigration, all of these things. But I think
we're about to witness if Trump does as much or
more than he did in his first administration with regard
to the deep state, the administrative state. So much of

(30:39):
our lives are regulated by all these bureaucrats. You think
about the FCC, the FTC, the CDC, you think about
the Department of Commerce and everything that knows does everything

(31:01):
that all of these regulatory agencies do. Congress passes a
law says we want to do X. Here's a bunch
of money, and then it's up to the bureaucrats to
go and implement those programs. And all of that money
comes with strings attached, and all of that money, or

(31:22):
a lot of that, not all of it. A lot
of that money gets eaten up in the bureaucracy before
it ever actually does something. Remember the broadband money that
came in the Inflation Reduction Act. Oh, we were going
to build out broadband all these rural communities. No, none,
nobody's been hooked up. You think about all of the

(31:43):
electrical chargers that you know, the infrastructure build was going
to put out there. No chargers have been built. The
regulations and the amount of money that it costs the economy.
I think that the upcoming deregulation wave that Trump will

(32:03):
implement will create an economic sonic boom. If you look
at most government, most governments are run by incompetent or indifference.
Incompetence and indifference because they sit in offices in Washington.

(32:26):
Had been there, I know, I see it. They sit
in these offices and all these cubicles all around throughout
the Washington, DC area. Some of our direct government employees,
many are government contractors, and their job is just, oh,
let's come up with a program. Congress will give us
some money, and then once we get the money, then

(32:47):
we'll figure out how we're going to implement the program.
And they just drag everything out and then they start
doing all these regulations. They live inside the Beltway. They
live in their own bubble. They're like part of the cabal.
They just live in this bubble. They know what it's
like out in the real world. They're double income, no kids.
They're called dinks. They make three four hundred thousand dollars

(33:09):
a year, so they don't understand working class America. So
they that the incompetence and the indifference strangles innovation, entrepreneurship
growth with just excess red tape. I believe that the

(33:29):
expansion of government inevitably leads to bureaucratic excess, and that
excess throttles the entrepreneurial spirit that defines prosperity. And historical
data supports my argument. You go look at the Heritage
Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom. When you look at that index,

(33:55):
it's they go to the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org
and on their website search for the Index of Economic
Freedom and then look at the countries and you'll see
that the freest countries, those that have minimal regulatory interference,
have the highest growth rates. I think that if Trump

(34:18):
comes in and starts trimming bureaucratic inefficiencies. I don't know
what Elon Musk can actually do. I don't know, but
I'm willing to let him try. If they start trimming
bureaucratic inefficiencies, that could ignite a surge of innovation that's

(34:39):
reminiscent of the deregulation field tech boom of the nineteen
eighties and the nineteen nineties. Remember the tech bubble. I
don't want to bubble again, but I'd love to see
that innovation again. I know the big thing. It seems
like artificial intelligence soaks up all of the news about innovation.

(34:59):
What about innovation and transportation? What about innovation in air travel?
What about innovation in just automobile travel. What about innovation
and how we communicate with one another? What about innovation
in how we grow food. Innovation is at the heart

(35:21):
of prosperity, people tinkering, people coming up with new ideas well.
When you're burdened with regulations and a whether it's somebody
in a garage or it's a fortune one hundred company,
if you're fighting off regulations or you're spending as much

(35:44):
time trying to figure out how to get around or
through a regulation as you do your research and development,
that costs money, and that costs time and everything that
costs time and money means that you put something off.
And I think that one of the things that the
Trump administration will do is he will tell every cabinet

(36:10):
secretary that he appoints you figure out ways to start
cutting regulations in your Department, and you come back to
me with I don't know, twenty five percent cutting reductions.
This economy will take off like one of Elon Musk's rockets.
It's the weekend with Michael Brown appreciates you so much.
Tuning in everybody, have a great weekend. I'll see you

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next Saturday.