2-12-25 - 8am - Fighting the Bureaucracy

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, goobers.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
As a high pressure system in Washington brings ice into Springfield, Ohio,
you can expect Haitians to flee to your town soon.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
This has been Johnny with WTF.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Why can't we be on WTF? And they're getting better.
There was a there was a radio station in Pennsylvania
that was WBFD or WTF. I forget what one of those,
but it was one of those acronyms. I remember. We were.

(00:37):
We were driving through Amish Country or somewhere shortly after
nine eleven, just taking like a weekend off, trying to
get away from stuff, and we drove down this main
street of this little town and I did a double take.
Look at that WBFD. You're looking at it up, aren't you.
I'm trying to see what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm trying to look at the three letter call letters
are very rare, right our sister nation KWA because of
the age. So I don't know if WTF would have been.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Maybe it's w BFD and it's Pennsylvania. I know that.
See well, well, dragon's looking that up. CNN is running
a story about inflation hits three percent for the first
time since June of last year, and of course, whose

(01:29):
fault is that? Now? This is for January. Trump took
office at noon on January twentieth.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
And yes, there's a WBFD in Bedford, Pennsylvania after Pennsylvan
thirteen to ten WBFD.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, WBFD. Why can't we have why can't we have
call letters like that? What would ours be? WTF?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Or we'd have to be a K because we're on
this side of the MISSISSI.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh, yeah, you're right to be a K. K r
ap crap, that's exactly right, kr aph. Inflation jumps, challenging
Trump's promise to lower prices. So there's the there's the
theme for the day. Inflation is ump and it's Trump's fault.

(02:21):
And by the way, they're focused on eggs too. If
you would cage the eggs or cage the chickens, and
if you quit killing all the chickens, eggs wouldn't be
so damn expensive. Or if you would shop in a
place like and I think it's Natural Grocers or somewhere
that they sell cage free eggs at the regular price

(02:45):
that you could normally used to be able to get
eggs for. Because it's one of their lost leaders, trut
To gets you in the store now before oh, I
also have a weather report. Residents in Florida are reporting
that their experience seeing a strange fog that has a
distinctive chemical smell in different parts of the state, and

(03:07):
the National Weather Service is now issuing a dense fog
advisory near Jacksonville and Tallahassee, extending from yesterday through the
end of the day today. Now, obviously, if you've ever
been in that area of the country, FOG's not unusual,
but the locals are saying that we're noticing differences in

(03:28):
the appearance and the smell, leading to now all these
concerns about the true nature of the fog. So they
have obviously, you know, with fog comes visibility issues, right,
but there have been reports of adverse health effects associated
with the fog. The symptoms that these people are reporting

(03:50):
are things like coughing, sore throats, and lethargy. That those
are the common ones. Others have unusual gut issues. That's
exactly what this story is. That others have noted unusual
gut issues. Some have reported a metallic taste when in
close proximity to the fog, and these are reminiscent of

(04:12):
a similar event last month, which also featured a fog
that had a metallic odor. Now, if you go online
to some of these stories, some of the theories are
about the fog, that it's from a chemical or a
biological agent. Now, back in the nineteen fifties, the US

(04:32):
Navy experimented involving the dispersion of bacteria off the coast
of San Francisco in something called Operation Sea Spray that
ended up infecting residents. Now, some people also suggest that
the unusual smell could be due to pollutants that are
already in the environment that simply became more noticeable in

(04:56):
the high humidity, and that the health issues might just
be coincidental with the effects of seasonal winter viruses exaggerated
by the presence of moisture rich air. So it's just
you know, you're getting sick with the flu because it's
it's flu season. Did you get a flu shot dragon?
I did not, me either, But did the others? No?

(05:18):
They did not. Oh, okay, all right. So National Weather
Service indicates fog conditions expected to reduce visibility to one
nautical mile or less will continue off parts of Florida's
coast at least until sometime this morning. So if you're
listening in Florida, to be careful about the poisonous fog

(05:41):
that the Navy is doing to uh well, kill you off,
because you Floridians are just causing too much trouble. Let's
go back to doze for a minute. Politico has a
story up. The headline is anxiety provoking Government workers describe
their Doze interview. The subhead says, doge probe of the

(06:03):
General Services Administration. The GSA resembles the Silicon Valley business
philosophy that has penetrated efforts to overhaul the federal workforce,
to which I say, so, what listen to this? Three
GSA employees, all of whom spoke to political anonymously out

(06:24):
of fears of retribution. Why, I mean serious question. If
if you have a fear of retribution, then I understand
why you might speak anonymously. But if this is as
bad as you claim it is, once you become a whistleblower, oh,

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because what they're doing is not actually illegal, describe their
recent interviews with Now listen to this wording, musks doge agents. Ooh,
they're agents. They're secret agents going in to spy on

(07:09):
the bureaucracy, and the bureaucracy is not accustomed to that.
The bureaucracy is not accustomed to even being questioned. They
feel like every word they're saying could be grounds for
future dismissal. I gotta laughed at that one, because I

(07:31):
come in here and I think, and you know, I've
come very close sometimes to slipping. Fortunately, have we tested
the dumb button lately? Dragon?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know you should test that every month?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Do Do Do Do doo? A? Were you back on
air now?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, I mean we were always on air, It just
cut out the part where we were talking about the
dump buttons. So everybody listening now is going, what the
hell just happened? Well, we hit the dump button, just
the fact of hitting the dump button.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yes, because we're told, according to our rules, we have
to test a dunk button bit lately. And that was
brought on by the fact that some of these employees
that are being interviewed by MUSKS DOGE agents are really
worried that any word they say might be grounds for
future dismissal, which led me, Well, I was going to say,

(08:22):
I'm concerned that anything I say may lead to my dismissal.
Every single day that I'm on air. How about that?
You know, I just I might just go crazy and
just start dropping F bombs, kind of like these Democrats
that are protesting Doge. They're out there yelling F Trump,
F Trump, F Trump all the time. That's all you got.

(08:43):
Really sound like a bunch of teenagers. Let's see GSA
that you know. First of all, let me explain what
GSA is. GSA handles all of the real estate, the
software systems, the the IT system's logistics. The GSA does

(09:03):
all that kind of stuff. So whatever they do at
GSA could affect other parts of the government. If you
make GSA more efficient and more effective, that will filter
down to all of the to every aspect of the
government because GSA handles all of that stuff. One supervisor

(09:27):
said that the interviews are anxiety provoking, provoking. Have you
never been in the private sector? Have you never gotten
the email that says or you know, you're walking down
the hallway and the boss says or comes into your
office and says, I need to see in my office.

(09:49):
You ever gotten that? Yeah? I have too. Oh, And
that the meetings sometimes are called without notice and might
be scheduled over existing client meetings. Yeah, if the boss
or somebody wants to have a meeting with you. You know,

(10:10):
I got some things planned today and I got as
I told you at the beginning of the program, I
got some emails about you know, I've got to attend this.
This online meeting is going to last forever. Today. I
hadn't planned that. I had planned to do some other stuff,
but now I got to do this. Welcome to the
real world. Burecratz, a DOGE agent, identified himself as an

(10:34):
advisor to Thomas Shedd, according to Politico, a former Tesla
engineer who became the director of the GSA's Technology Servicing
sub agency, which is called the Technology Transformation Services in January. Okay,
so what the project manager said. The conversation with the

(10:55):
DOJE employee was a brief, fifteen minute interview with little
attention paid to any experience on the government employee's ability
and job of moving complete projects through the federal government.

(11:16):
The project manager said, quote, most people are trying to
hype their technical skills. They don't think those people respect
the softer, moving complex projects through government bureaucracy types of skills. Now,
when I read that, I thought to myself, that's the problem.

(11:37):
You're good at moving a project, a complex project, through
the bureaucracy. Okay, well, congratulations, you're good at doing that,
and that's all you've ever done for the five, ten, fifteen, twenty,
twenty five or thirty years that you've been doing that
inside the bureaucracy. And so if someone comes along and says,

(11:58):
you know what, there might be a better way of
doing this, you immediately go into defense mode. Now I've
personally experienced this. After I left the undersecretary's position. I
had several clients that wanted to hire me to do

(12:19):
consulting with them, and they would come to me with
something that might be described as a better mouse trap,
and I'd look at that better mouse trap. Now, I'm
just telling you the reality here, so don't jump down
my throat about this. I'm just telling you the reality.
So a client would come to me, pay me big
bucks to look at their better mouse trap, tell me

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what I thought was good or bad about the mouse trap,
and I would I give them an unvarnished opinion. I
think this is a good idea, it looks like a
good whatever it is, I think that it's not going
to work for this reason or that reason, or this
seems to be a problem you need to work on,
and so they would pay me to analyze and review

(13:02):
whatever their better mouse trap was. But then I would
get to the part that they just could not comprehend,
and I would tell them it's going to cost you
a boatload of money for me to take your project on,
because what you're trying to do is you're trying to

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displace a legacy system within the bureaucracy. So whatever your
mousetrap is, they already have a similar mouse trap in
the government. Now your mousetrap is better. I freely admit
your mousetrap is better. But what you're trying to do
is you're trying to take this better mouse trap, which

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is more efficient, more effective, and you want me to
go in on your behalf and get this now planted
in to the bureaucracy so the bureaucracy can do their
job better and more efficiently. Seems like an easy task,
doesn't it. Go to the bureaucracy and say, hey, listen,
I've got a client here who has a better mousetrap.

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You can do your job more efficiently, more effectively. Counterintuitively,
the response is not, oh wow, let us see it.
The response is, oh, we don't want to see that.
We don't know. No, no, no, no, don't bring that
to us. Why because of that paragraph. The project manager

(14:35):
of the political interviewed said, most people are trying to
hype their technical skills. They don't think those people respect
the softer, moving complex projects through government bureaucracy type of skills.
In other words, they've been doing it this way for

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their entire life inside the bureaucracy. They don't want to
change how they do it because that takes work, that
takes effort, that takes changing your way of thinking. That
means you just can't keep doing it the way you've
always been doing it. And that is the biggest, most
gigantic roadblock in improving or making the bureaucracy more effective

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and more efficient. They don't want to do it, and
so I would go back to a client and say, okay,
you're going to completely upend the way let's say this
Customs and Border Patrol. This is going to completely upend
the way Customs and Border Patrol does business. Or to

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the Air Force or to the Navy. This is going
to completely up in the way they do business. And
so the bureaucracy, not the not the pilots, not the seamen,
but the bureaucracy that runs the Navy and the air Force.
They're not gonna wun it. The border patrol agents may want,
but the people that sit back in the desks at

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the offices, they don't want this because they're going to
have to learn an entirely new system. They're going to
have to do all of the migration of the old
system to the new system. All that's going to take
extra time and extra work, and we don't want that.
And when the private sector clients would hear me say that,

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they'd look at me like I was some sort of alien,
like I was from Mars, And I would try to
explain to them that, oh, if you want to take
this on, I'm more than happy to take your money,
and I'll go in and I'll fight the bureaucracy for you,
and I will try to get these changes made. But
I'm telling you you have at best, at best a

(16:47):
fifty to fifty chance of accomplishing this. So do you
want to pay me all this money where your odds
are fifty to fifty that you won't be able to
get the government to adopt your better mouse trap. Now,
you may not like what I just said, but that's
the truth about how it works. Musk says that doing away,

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which he's absolutely right, and what he says here that
doing away with traditional government project managers might remove a
layer of bureaucracy that is stifling innovation. He is exactly right.
Middle management doesn't want to change how they do business
because they love the way they do business, because they've
been doing it that way for decades. You come along

(17:33):
with a better mousetrap. Oh my god, you are the
devil incarnate. Why you're going to upset the apple cart?
Which is why what Doge and Musk and Trump are
doing is so vitally important and I give it a
fifty to fifty chance of success. Worse, Congress. Congress needs

(17:56):
to step up and do this instead of bitching about it. Hey,
let's go talk to Josh with the retirement planning, Sir
of the Rockies. Josh, So, we got a new administration
in place, and everybody seems to be talking about the
future of taxes. Do we really know anything about what's
being proposed or what is being proposed?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, Michael, that's a great question, and one we're getting
pretty regularly here in our office, you know. And it's
interesting because in a world where we're all concerned about
egg prices, that's true, there is a potential light at
the end of the tunnel. And obviously there's a lot
of things that have to happen, but I want to
address the elephant in the room first and foremost, because

(18:38):
I think this is the one thing that people are
most hopeful about, and that's the potential elimination of income taxes. Now,
you and I, Michael, were not naive enough to think
that this is something that's going to be an easy fixed,
nor do I think it's even going to happen during
this administration, because it's not just an Act of Congress.
This is something that would take like two thirds of

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the states to ratify it before it even becomes a reality.
So I'm not a tax attorney. I'm not in Congress
by any means, So I'm not going to pretend to
tell you what policy will be. Rather, we're just here
to react to it. But one of the biggest things, Michael,
that we are really honed in on, especially because the

(19:21):
folks that we work with are typically retired or pretty
dang close to being retired, and that's Social Security. There's
the proposal right now that there may be an elimination
of taxes on Social Security. Now, what does this mean
for most folks? I mean, obviously first and foremost, Yes,

(19:41):
you know, less tax means more money in your pocket.
That's a really big deal for a lot of folks.
And let's be honest, social Security. For the good majority
of folks out there, that's the largest source of income
that they're going to have in retirement. So that would
be a huge benefit if that were to come to pass. Now,
what else does this mean for folks? Michael, Well, if

(20:03):
we're paying less than taxes on Social Security, if that
word come to fruition, that also means we're having to
take less money out of our retirement plans in order
to cover our expenses in retirement. That's a really, really
big deal for a lot of folks.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Right. Well, you know, I think that everything I've read
about not taxing Social Security is plausible. Whether it's actually
possible for them to do it or not, I mean,
whether convers has the will to do it or not,
I think it's a real question. But agreed, everything that

(20:40):
I read says that with other reforms. You could actually
do that because we didn't tax social security benefits prior
to what nineteen eighty six or eighty seven with the
Reagan tax reform, So it's not like we haven't done
this before. But I think to keep it solved, it
wouldn't we have to do something else to make up

(21:01):
although I guess you could make the argument that the
taxes that I pay on Social Security don't go back
into the Social Security Trust Fund. Those just go back
into the general fund.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Right, and you bring up a really really good point.
You're exactly right. From the time of inception in nineteen
thirty five till yeah, about the eighties, there were no
taxes on Social Security and at the time we had
eighteen individuals paying into the Social Security Fund to fund
one recipient of Social Security recipients. Now we're at like

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two and a half two point two hang in per
one recipient. So you're exactly right. The solvency is the
biggest issue at this particular juncture, so there's a lot
that would have to take place. Now. The other concern
that we have is with this elimination on the windfall
elimination provision and government pension offset that presents a new

(21:53):
set of problems, but that also presents opportunity for those
that have government pensions or folks that didn't necessarily pay
into Social Security all of their working careers. So there
are a lot of opportunities out there. And quite honestly,
if you want to know how these recent changes or
proposed changes may affect you, I mean, give us a

(22:15):
call and we'll help you make sense of it. That's
that's one of the hardest things for most folks right now.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, and that's a great point. You ought to just
give Josh and the team at the Retirement Planning some
of the Rockies a call and just ask those questions.
So do that today. Pick up the phone, give them
a call. You tell them Michael Brown sent you. That's
the Retirement Planning Center of the Rockies at nine seven
zero six six three thirty two eleven. Call them today

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nine seven zero six six three thirty two eleven or
check them out online the website rpcenter dot com. Hey,
I want to before I go on to the next topic,
I want to address something that Josh said that I'm
not trying to argue with Josh, particularly since he's not
here and he's he's gone on. But I would disagree

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that it would take an act of a constitutional amendment
to eliminate the income tax. Now, if you wanted to
prevent an income tax from ever being adopted again, then
that would take a constitutional amendment. But if you look
at the sixteenth Amendment, it simply says that Congress shall

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have the power to lay and collect taxes on income
from whatever source is derived, without a portion among the
several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
So it just gives Congress the authority to levy an
income tax. It does not require Congress to levy an
income tax. So I would disagree that it's going to

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take a constitutional amendment if you wanted to preclude Congress
from ever implementing not ever, because obviously we didn't have
one before the sixteenth Amendment. But if you wanted to
keep Congress from just deciding that, hey, we're going to
eliminate income taxes, and in place, we're going to put
a national consumption tax, a national sales tax, if you will,

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or a fair tax or a flat tax, whatever you
want to do. That doesn't require constitutional amendment, but it
would require in my opinion, that Congress simultaneously eliminate the
income tax. Otherwise we're going to end up like any
European nation. We're going to have a value added tax
of at tax, we're gonna have a sales tax, and

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we're gonna have an income tax. And that's my fear
about what Congress would be doing. So I think based
on the wording of the sixteenth Amendment, it just gives. Again,
it's like post offices. Post offices are not mandated. It's
just that Congress can establish post offices, and postal workers

(24:50):
always go ballistic with me over that. Yes, post offices
are in the constitution, but because something is in the
Constitution does not mean that Congress has to do it.
It's the Congress can establish post offices. Congress may not.
Congress shall big difference in the wording. Uh. A couple

(25:12):
of text messages that I want to go to simply
because I think you raise some good points. Oh by
the way, UH, speaking of new call letters for K,
how how about W D A, G H W dumbass
goobers We could do with that.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, And not to be too technical here, but we
would be the K because we're on this side of
the missis' kday.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Mike people, he's an auditor and can only speaking of Musk.
He's only an auditor, can only report to the boss.
The boss is wanting to know where the money is
going so he can make the Social Security Treasury payroll payments,
et cetera. That's exactly what Musk is doing. Musk has
no authority. In fact, I heard one story this morning

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coming in that one dose Little twenty something, that his
access was not read only and that he had mistakenly
been given access to change things. But that was quickly
found and quickly reversed. It was quickly checked. He had
not made any changes. He had read only. He had

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read only. That's what he thought he had, and so
that's what he did, and he made no attempt to
change anything. The point being this take if I could
just get the left to take a deep breath. You
claim that you too are in favor of eliminating waste

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fraud and abuse, but I don't believe you for a
New York minute. You're not in favor of it because
the waste fraud and abuse is your money laundering system
and you don't want to agent. And that drives me baddy.
So The best thing you can do is just set
up a whistleblower tip line. Oh wow, that's really gonna

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go do well. As if whistleblowers can't go to members
of Congress already and claim whistle and ask for and
usually get whistleblower status, you can go to any member
of Congress. It doesn't have to be a Democrat, doesn't
have to be a Republican, go to anybody. All all
Schumer's doing is he's trying to put make up on

(27:32):
a pig. Trump announced plans to send the Treasury Secretary
Scott Descent to Ukraine. Now, obviously Trump Trump made the
announcement yesterday, and part of that announcement was clearly even

(27:54):
Zelenski is saying that of the let's just say two
hundred billion dollars that we have spent, only one hundred
billion dollars or maybe it's two and one hundred billion
is missing a billionaire and a billionaire. What difference does
it make? Zelenski himself is admitting that. I don't think

(28:15):
he's admitting. I think he's confessing because I think he's
known about this from the very beginning, that whatever arm
shipments are being delivered, if not himself. Other people are
cycling off some of those arm shipments and they're ending
up on the black market, and they're ending up in
the hands of the terrorist organizations that actually want to

(28:37):
kill American soldiers and American citizens. But I think the
other thing that he's confessing to is that some of
the aid that's going so you understand, I hope that
we're not just supplying arms to Ukraine. We're actually propping
up their entire society. Were propping up the electrical grid,

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We're propping up their nuclear power plants, We're propping up
their retirement system.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Are we helping them with an election? Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wait? Never, we know we were going to help them
with an election, But then somebody decided that he just
wanted to stay president. And even though we still call
him a president, he's now just.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
They were supposed to have an election almost a year ago.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, you know, it takes time in a war zone
to organize an election. I mean, you think about during
World War Two, we just kept electing the same guy
over and over and over because it was just easier
to do that, because what was the slogan? Didn't want
to change horses in midstream, So we just you know
those were all fake elections.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Dragon, I just want toss out a friendly reminder out
there that they were supposed to have elections last March,
and because they're in a war, their constitution will not
allow them to have an election, which he could.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Have had an election if he wanted to regard us
of what the constitution said. So anyway, on truth social
last night, Trump said this, I am sending Secretary of
the Treasury Scott Be sent to Ukraine to meet President Zelenski.
This war must and will end soon. You know this
is here's a new rule for when I'm telling you, like,

(30:17):
what's something somebody wrote, When I emphasize it, and particularly
if it's Trump, that means it's in all caps and
he's shouting it. Quote. This war must and will end soon.
Too much death and destruction. The US has spent billions
of dollars globally with little to show when America is strong.

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The world is at peace now. Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg,
which you've probably seen on Fox News many times, has
been assigned as a special envoy by Trump for Ukraine
and Russian matters.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
He just happened to mention that the Treasury Department is
evaluating ways that they could secure a contract so that
we as a it could bring all these rare earth
minerals into the country. That we could set up a
you know, we could issue contracts for companies to go
mine these rare earth minerals and bring them into the

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United States. That agreement could make us a contingent on
the acquisition of those minerals, as it should a quid
pro quote, if you will. If we're going to do
all of this, then considering the way the international order

(31:37):
now exists, and if China is taking all these rare
earth minerals through their Silk Road program out of Africa,
then why aren't we taking some minerals out of Ukraine.
Ukraine is a major supplier of rare earth minerals for

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Europe Lithian titanium, uranium, iron, and Zalnsky has shown actually
an openness to discussing those mineral agreements, as he should,
so once again the Trump effect.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Michael Northbound twenty five. I see snowpack. These four wheelers
are bumping up on my butt like hemorrhoids. Blink blink,
flash flash, all our supertrucker trash.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Speaking of which, if I can find it real quickly.
When I asked earlier for you truckers to give me
some examples of what the uh dumbass drivers are doing,
we got a text message that said something about it's
not necessarily always the truckers are just as bad because

(32:51):
the truckers are ignoring the high wind warnings and the
chain laws. Any you truckers out there guilty of that.
There was a whole story last night on KDVR. The
mayor of Veil is really pissed off, and I'd be
pissed off too, truckers. And I doubt it's you know,

(33:12):
how do I say this? I doubt it's any truckers
that are US citizens, could be, but probably not. Perhaps
it's s truckers from oh, I don't know, maybe Mexico
that are driving across the Veil pass and they see
the sign that you know, the traction laws are in effect,
and you're supposed to pull over and you know, chain
up your truck, and you fail to do it, and

(33:34):
then you cause an accident. And then all those skiers
trying to get to Veil or to Aspen, they're delayed,
and it's pissing the mayor of Veil off, so you
need to chain up traction laws. Is there any aspect
of our life in Colorado that is not regulated, any

(33:54):
aspecta of all at all? Every time I drive on
the four seventy and I look at those cameras, or
I'm on the Gap project or I'm up on seventy,
and you know, it's everywhere you go, everything is being regulated.
And yet Jared Polish wants to claim that, you know why,

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he's all for freedom, he's all for saving us money,
he's for all doing all these things. I've never seen
a governor other than maybe Gavin Newsom. But at least
Gavin Newsom doesn't pretend that he's trying to save Californians money.
He just blatantly says, yeah, we're gonna spend you know,
tens of billions of dollars on you know, freeloading illegal

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aliens and you know, make sure they got a nice
place to stay in a cell phone and food and
shelter and transportation. At least he just blatantly calls it
out and says that what we're gonna do here in Colorado,
oh you know what, We're gonna do everything we can
to save you money. They don't do anything. The regulatory burden.
I often reference the Common Sense Institute. They've got to

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study out right now about the regulatory burden in this state.
Holy crapp o. Look if you if why why do
we keep electing these yahoos? You gotta stop it, absolutely
stop it.