2-13-25 - 7am -

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night, Michael Brown joins me.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here's the Fork show.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Host Michael Brown. Brownie, Brownie, you're doing a heard of
a job the situation with Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
You're a political experts.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
On six point thirty K how Denver's talk station.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Michael, this might be the union strike that you and
I should be crossing because, according to Jimmy Singenberger, uh,
the the union bosses higher up in the coasts of
California and New York wherever basically are using this strike

(00:42):
to centralize and get more power. That's always been the
goal of the left. So across the picket lines.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Good morning, Michael. So this whole family leaves crap. I
believe too the amount that they're withholding from people's pay
for their common program can just out randomly be increased,
you know, as they see fit. I emailed the Family
Lease people and ask them how they're funded and how

(01:12):
solvent it is. Guess what crickets are going to have
to do?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
A korra request.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
There's no way the ice agents are going to rush into.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
School and take little kids up.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Of course, not for same thing with churches. Let's be honest,
if I were a Heenus criminal who came here legally
and committed terrible crimes. And I knew I was going
to get the porter. Where would I go to hide out?
Probably some school library or hang out at the church. Yeah,
I think the agents should set up a perimeter. It's
like a block away and just wake Yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Right, just hiding the bushes, wait for them to show up.
You don't have to go in the school. It's wait
for them to try to go in the school. All right,
let's talk about it. So those just off on this kick,
and I don't mean that pejoratively. I'm glad they're doing it.
Of trying to find ways to save money. And I

(02:10):
don't know what made this click in my brain yesterday,
but something about DHS, and oh, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
What it was. I remember now what it was.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
So you know, I'm slowly working on this second book
about the creation of DHS, and I had I'd found
a book that some other person had written about this
particular part of DHS. So I started digging around reading
through the book, and it reminded me that I don't

(02:44):
know what the date was, but it had to been
I'm guessing at the latest two thousand and four, maybe
as early as two thousand and three. But somewhere in
that timeframe, I get a call from I get a
call from Andy Card, the President's chief of staff. This

(03:05):
says such and such, I don't know the person's name
from the General Services Administration GSA, which handles all the
real estate of the federal government, is going to call
and try to schedule you and to the other undersecretaries
to go on a field trip.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And you know, we want you to do this. In
other words, go do this.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
So I get the phone call and they give us
the address, and I tell my security detail here's where
we're going. And they look at me and they go,
do you understand where we're going? I mean no, I
have no idea where we're going. They just gave me
the address. I didn't look it up or anything. It's
the old Saint Elizabeth's Hospital in DC. It's just across

(03:53):
the Anacostia River. It sits up high on a hill.
It's probably the if you wanted to build an office building,
I mean a Class A office building in which you
could charge exorbitant rental rates, this would be the place
to build it. Because this may or may not be true,

(04:14):
but I think it's the highest point in the District
of Columbia area where you look across the Anacostia River
and you can see everything from the Pentagon all the
way up to the US Capitol. So you see you
see the Pentagon, you see Arlington, you see the Lincoln Memorial,
you see the Washington Memorial, the Jefferson, you see the

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White House, you see the Naval Navy Memorial. You see
all of this, including the US Capitol. It's a gorgeous view.
Saint E's is what we refer to it as in
local vernacular. Saint E's is an old mental institution, which
is kind of ironic when you think about what I'm
going to say was for. It's also where remember John

(05:01):
Heinckley who attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan. It's where John
Henckley's spent his final days until he was ultimately released
on probation.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So I'm like, wow, we're this is where we're going.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, now at that time, I can't tell you what
it looks like today. But at that time, let me
just say I'm really glad that I had my security
detail with me because it was like driving through some
of the old scenes that you've seen from burned out Detroit.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
It was sketchy at best. And then we get onto
the grounds of the hospital. Now the hospital it's stealth
because it had been enclosed and kept isolated from all
the urban blight around. It was a gorgeous campus, you know,
these old you know, red stone buildings and everything was.
It was a gorgeous place. And then the GSA people

(06:02):
show up and we're standing out, you know, in some
you know, horribly humid day in DC, and they pull
out blueprints and they show what they want to do,
and it's to build the headquarters for the Department of
Homeland Security. And I'm I'm looking at this, and I'm

(06:29):
you know me, I'm always the troublemaker, but so I
just listen. But they're like, you know, we want to
take all these twenty two departments and agencies. But by
the way, just as a hint to where I'm going,
that already occupy GSA space inside the Beltway, and we

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want to take all of those departments and agencies and
consolidate them onto this property. And we're going to build
a quarters which would not be.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Quite the size of the Pentagon, but on.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
A similar scale when you think about twenty two departments
and agencies. Hell, just at FEMA, just in my headquarters,
I had three thousand employees just in that building alone,
and that's not even counting I mean Secret Service and
what would all become the Transportation of Security, administration, the headquarters,
the administrative staff, everything, all of the IT systems and

(07:31):
the personnel systems and everything else. And I'm looking at
these blueprints going Holy cramp. And then I kind of,
you know, we're all kind of looking at it, and
they're describing everything they're going to have to do, including
building a new subway is called the Metro and DC
including building a new Metro stop. Think of the cost

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of that. So the nearest stop was probably on the
Green lines where and so they were good they would
have to expand the Green line or either take the
Blue line and build an entire new line so that
people would have access using the Metro to get to
those headquarters. Then, because of where it's located, and it's

(08:16):
not three ninety five, I forget, is it two ninety
five anyway? One of one of the main artery of
interstate arteries surrounding d C. It's not three ninety five,
that's the belt Way, but four, but anyway, they would
They were also going to build a spur off the
interstate to feed into that area. And then they had

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also anticipated that outside the campus for the new headquarters,
they would offer you know, the government would because the
government was gonna take over all of this area. They
were going to clean out all the blighted areas, they
were going to relocate all these poor people. They were
gonna do all of this stuff, and then they were
going to offer up to businesses to open up, you know,

(09:00):
retail and office space, so you know, even including apartments
and condos. It's sopposed to be this gigantic multi use development.
And so we go through the whole thing. We get
the entire presentation, and the entire time, I'm thinking, what
a freaking waste of time, energy resources, blah blah blah blah.

(09:26):
Then at some point I get back and I'm I'm
over in the west wing, and I'm you know, they always,
I think, they always ask me what I thought, because
I just didn't give a feces, and so I always
just told them exactly what I thought, and I said,

(09:47):
this is it's a boondoggle.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's a total boon doggle and it's designed to do.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Do you think that there's going to be a fair
process by which the surrounding area? Now if you know
that suddenly now the total population of DHS today is
you know, close to two hundred thousand or whatever it is.
Now they're not all obviously going to be at headquarters,
but you're going to have a headquarters.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's going to have you.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Know, thirty five or you know, fifty thousand people working there.
Do you really think there's going to be a fair
process to then, you know, put up forbid the surrounding
property and all the kickbacks is going to occur and
everything else. I said, this is just stupid to try
to be doing this. And then I'm thinking, what are

(10:36):
you think going to do with all the vacant space,
because FEMA currently, some twenty years later, still occupies five
hundred C Street Southwest in Washington.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
D C. It's an eight story building.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
There is a I think it's still a holiday inn,
but there was a holiday inn attached to this office building,
and that building would just become vacant, as would all
of the other buildings in which all of the other
components Secret Service and everybody else, the Immigrations and Customs

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and what was at that time, Immigrations and Naturalization Services,
the Citizenship group, the people that you know would naturalize
citizens and process all of those visas and everything. All
of those people would suddenly be moved out of inside
the Beltway, inside you know, main main part of DC,

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and then moved out to this new location, which means
those buildings then become empty. That was at a minimum
twenty years ago, more likely twenty three, twenty four years ago.
So last night I was really curious, so I started
digging around. First went to Google to see what they

(11:57):
would what biased results they would feed me, And then
went on to Lexus Nexus and started digging around on
it to see why it would feed me about all
the news reports about this headquarters.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Here we are twenty years later. Nothing.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
I did find this from just this past August, GSA
awards construction contract for SIZA headquarters on the Saint Elizabeth's
West Campus. The award is GSA's largest single blank investment
to date. As part of the Biden Harris Investing in

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America agenda, GSA was going to take money from the
Inflation Reduction Act to put the Intelligence basically the intelligence
arm of DHS on this new on that old campus.

(13:02):
You want the dollars. On August sixteen, twenty twenty four,
GSA and the Department of Homeland Security announced the selection
of Clark Construction to provide general construction for the new
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency that's SIZA headquarters at the
Saint ELIZABETHS West Campus in Washington, d C. The SIZA

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construction award of approximately five hundred and twenty four million dollars.
For those of you mathematically challenged, that's more than half
a billion dollars, includes an investment of one hundred and
fifteen million, eight hundred eighty thousand dollars in Inflation Reduction

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Act funding as part of the Biden Harris administrations Investing
in America agenda, making it GSA's largest single Inflation Reduction
Act project in investment to date. The GSA Administrator, Robin

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Carnahan is quoted as saying the size of project is
a flagship example of how the Biden Harris administration is
fulfilling its commitment to invest in America, both here in Washington,
d C. And all across the country. Saint ELIZABETHS is
a place worth thousands of dedicated publics. I can't keep

(14:28):
us straight face reading this now. I've already read it
to her three times. Saint Elizabeth is a place where
thousands of dedicated public servants work to keep America safe
and explore new technologies.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Cooks.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
So construction will support those goals, all while reducing our
environmental impact, saving taxpayer dollars through energy efficiency, and creating
jobs in the community. That's what I call But I
can't say it bull crap. That's utter bullcrap. They go

(15:02):
on to say. The Biden Harris administration is leading by
example to tackle the climate crisis through the President's Federal
Sustainability Plan, which establishes an ambitious path to achieve net
zero emissions from federal buildings by twenty forty five. So

(15:22):
what's this going to include, Well, construction of a new
six hundred and thirty thousand square foot federal building that
will be to house SIZA.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
It includes about eighty million dollars to purchase.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Low embodied carbon construction material such as low carbon asphalt, concrete, glass,
and steel, thirty five million dollars to meet eye performance
green building standards. The Secretary of Homeland Security a Lajndro
may Orchis at the time said, across DHS, our team

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works tirelessly to confront and mitigate threats to our critical infrastructure.
Bringing the Extraordinary Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to the
Department of Homeland Security Saint Elizabeth Campus will better facilitate
collaboration across our components and offices and inspire cohesive work
to ensure our nation's infrastructure is secure and resilient. Thanks

(16:21):
to the Biden Harris administration, blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah. I have posted, tweeted, retweeted, reposted
whatever you want to call it at least five times
now trying to get Elon Musk and the DOGE accounts attention.

(16:43):
If you want to save just slightly more than half
a billion dollars, here you go. It's right here. It's
this GSA construction contract. Now, I've already been told that
somewhere around on any given day, eight percent, maybe ten

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percent of the federal workforce is actually showing up in
their offices and instead they're working from home, which means
those offices are sitting empty most of the time. And
we're going to spend more than half a billion dollars
for DHS. This is total bull crap. So I would

(17:35):
ask you a favor. If you're on X and you
don't follow me, go follow me at Michael Brown usay.
And I've posted it in a different, different language, all
hoping to get somebody at Doze to pay attention to it.
So if you see it, would you go repost it
yourself because I'm going to do whatever I can making

(18:00):
phone calls this afternoon. See if I can't find somebody somewhere,
I gotta find some point of entry. I got to
find some six degree of separation of some one of
those twenty somethings that works on Doge to get their
attention to bring this to eaton Musk attention. Shut it down.

(18:20):
Just shut it down now, you know, or meant a
meant a five hundred million dollar coin, you know, put
Trump's face on it. Now, put Musk's name a face

(18:42):
on it. That'll really puts people off. Do that a
five hundred million dollar coin and may and make it
out of you know, copper, since we're not gonna make
pennies anymore. Just make it out of copper. But just
designated that that it's worth five hundred million dollars. Now
you understand Fiat currency. You understand it quite well.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Here's the London Telegraph. You've probably heard this story and
I'd be curious. I bet you've heard this story and
you thought that's awful. The London Telegraph's headline is USAID
freeze claims first victims as oxygen supplies cut off. Seventy

(19:28):
one year old subheed. Seventy one year old woman dies
after being sent home from a USAID funded hospital. Others
die after hospitals close in refugee camps. You cold hearted bastards.
You're causing seventy one year old women to die because

(19:48):
their oxygen supply was cut off because we froze USAID funding.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
The Telegraph reads. PK.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Law, a refugee from Me and Mar living in a
displace camp in neighboring Thailand, died four days after she
was discharged from a USAID funded healthcare facility operated by
the International Rescue Committee.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Keep that in mind.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
She is thought to be one of the first people
to have died as a direct result of Washington's decision
to freeze all funding for AID projects for ninety days.
Her family told Reuters that she had frequently been sent
to the hospital in the last three years as she
was dependent on supply of oxygen, but was sent home
after the International Rescue Committee received a stop work order

(20:37):
in late January. The organization, the International Rescue Committee operates
clinics that catered to roughly eighty thousand people in nine
refugee camps post to the memr border, but abruptly closed
and locked seven out of its nine hospitals to comply
with the uncompromising US directive. The agency may be subject

(20:59):
to these exemption as it offers life saving assistance, but
it is not yet clear when a waiver could be issued.
I find that interesting because it was quite clear that
when they froze those funds, that any funds that were
being used for life saving purposes was not part of

(21:19):
that freeze. Within days of leaving the International Rescue Committee hospital,
the seventy one year old was struggling to breathe and
asked to return to the facility. Her fifty year old
daughter told Reuters in a teary phone call, I had
to tell her that there is no hospital. Her son

(21:42):
in law, ten Win, added that before the closure whenever
she got short of breath, I would carry her right
away back to hospital and she would be fine. We
are very poor people. I work as a day labor.
We can't afford oxygen at home.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
To Jerker.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Isn't it why we're a bunch of cold hearted bastards.
We let a seventy one year old woman die for
lack of oxygen in a refuge camp run by the
International Rescue Committee. One of the accounts that I follow
on on x has he has two accounts, and one

(22:25):
of the accounts is he spends. And I tried to
support him any way I can, but he he's kind
of like Tom Coburn, the former senator, the late senator
from Oklahoma, that would go out and find all this waste,
except now he's kind of focused on NGOs, you know,
like the International Rescue Committee. What if I told you

(22:50):
he has found that the NNGO, the International Rescue Committee
that couldn't afford oxygen without funding from US said has
a stock portfolio worth ninety eight million dollars and a

(23:10):
CEO that makes one point two million dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Now, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
If I would like to think, but if I were
making one point two million dollars a year, and Jesse
back there needed oxygen and there was no place to
get it, no place anywhere in Thailand. Now, remember this
hospital is in Thailand. I don't know where it is

(23:42):
in Thailand, but I've been all over Thailand. And yes,
there are some pretty poor areas of Thailand, but there's
some pretty well off major tourist areas and gorgeous countryside
and there's wealth in Thailand. But if jesse Van himself

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stuck somewhere in Thailand, I think before I offered her, well, Jesse,
I'll send you. I'll wire you a thousand bucks or
some oxygen. I think I might say, hang on real quickly,
let me find some place somewhere in Bangkok or wherever
you are, where we can get you some oxygen. I'm

(24:24):
not going to say it, but I think it is
this story true. I think the story is true. I
really do. I think this Inngo, the International Rescue Committee
wanted this woman to die. They let her die because

(24:45):
this is the story that has circulated the globe of
bazillion times, and nobody ever stops and says, well, who's
the International Rescue Committee? Oh, it's an NGO. What if
I talked to you about NGOs, they're money laundering schemes.
If an NGO has a ninety eight million first of all,
before you even get to that, an NGO that can't

(25:09):
supply oxygen because a future payment. Remember funding was frozen,
but let's let's just say it was yesterday. Funding was
frozen yesterday. That means any money that was going out
the door yesterday didn't go out the door. And that's

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not even accounting for money that day before yesterday already
went out the door. So the funding stopped yesterday in
our hypothetical, Now you're telling me that you're running an
NGO that for the next day after the funding was frozen,
for the funding that's already in the pipeline, you couldn't

(25:53):
find enough money to buy an oxygen tank for a
seventy one year old woman. I think you're full of feces.
And then you got ninety eight million dollars in a
stock portfolio. I could go on to my brokerage account
right now and the markets are open, I could share,

(26:15):
I could sell. I don't know what Apple's trading for today,
I could I could sell one share of Apple. Now
that's not cost effective. But I could do it and
take that money, and I could wire that instantly to
the International Rescue Committee, Which means, if I could do it,
if they have a ninety eight million dollar stock stock portfolio,

(26:38):
which is, you know, only eight million dollars more than
what my store. You know they got ninety eight million dollars.
I've only got ninety million dollars. You know, it's a
shame that you know, I'm so poor. And the CEO
that makes one point two million dollars a year, I

(26:59):
guarandemn to you. I bring more value to this company
then that CEO brings to that n g O. And
I can't guarantee you I ain't making one point two
million dollars a year. I should be, but I'm not.
I think I'm that valuable to this company. But company
doesn't see it the way I see it. They got
their blinders on. I would like to think that the

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CEO of a non government organization, in fact, a charitable
non government organization in fact that's making one point two
million dollars a year could somehow rustle up, they mean.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Pass the hat.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Just go around to some of the employees and say, hey,
Lisson We got a woman here, we need oxygen and
we don't have any money.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Is anybody got any uh what they is it? Bout?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
I forget what the name of the tie currency is?
You get any bouts? Can we can?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
We collect sentence?

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Somebody run down to the to the locals, you know,
gas and supply chain like they have right over here
on I twenty five. You see it every time you
pass the tent on the twenty five. There's a gas
and air supply store right there. You know it's a
wholesaler running there and buy a tank of oxygen.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
These people.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Are so addicted to your money, so addicted to the
federal government of the United States of America, which is
funded by you, that they let a seventy one year
old woman die. I call bull you know what? On that,
I'll tell you what I really think. If this story

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is true and she really did if this woman really
did die, I have no reason to doubt that she
did die.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
You and I really truly think you know, you can
hate me for this.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
They wanted the example. They wanted the story because who
cares about a horror refugee from me and mar in Thailand?
It's going to die of oxygen. I wonder if Reuters,
I wonder if the London Telegraph really did dig into it,

(29:15):
or did they just run with the story. Oxygen requires
a diagnosis and a prescription. But to your second point
of your text message, a concentrator would provide cheaper O
two than multiple trips to the er. I have a
friend right now whose father is on oxygen and they're
using a concentrator. They don't want to mess with the

(29:37):
tanks and everything else, so they're using a concentrator and
it's it's working just fine. He's in home hospice fifty
two sixty five. Michael, I feel sorry for the I
feel for this woman, but we are thirty six trillion
dollars in debt and borrowing more money to save hers.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Not realistic.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
I like my neighbor, but would not borrow money to
save him when I am debt ten times what I
bring in.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Well, not only that, but don't gloss over.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
I think the more important point, and that is that
the non government organizations are the money laundering schemes that
I keep trying to explain to you.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Your taxes and the money that we borrow to fund.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
The federal government, because remember, we don't bring in enough
revenue to fund everything that we do, so we borrow
about what is it, forty seven cents of every dollar
that we spend. I need to get the current figure.
That's the last figure I had, but whatever that number is.
So your taxes partially fund USAID, and then we borrow

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the rest from ourselves from the Federal Reserve, which to
the other talkbacks point just prints more currency, issues more treasuries,
or loans the money to the treasure so they can
issue the treasuries.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
And then they've got a deficit.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
So our taxes fund USAID, and then USAID funds a
leftist non government organization, and then the leftist non government
organization pays themselves huge salaries like one point nine million
dollars a year and then builds up a ninety eight
million dollars stock portfolio stock portfolio. Those salaries or money

(31:30):
out of that portfolio then gets funneled back to Democrat campaigns.
That's why everybody on the Democrats side is all freaked
out over this. We're tax taxes go to USAID. They
create the NGO. The NGO is funded by USAID. The
leftists in the NGO do zero real work. They pay

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the leftist huge salaries. The leftists donate the salaries from
the nng O to the Democrats. And that's why the
Democrats are freaking out over Trump and Musk and killing USAID.
And now they've got an example. We killed the seven
you killed a seventy one year old woman. And think
about this. If you're a non government organization and you

(32:13):
are so forget the ninety eight million dollars in the
one point two million dollars salary. If you're a non
listen closely. If you're a non government organization that is
so dependent on funding from the government that when your
money is frozen you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
That doesn't that means that you are not a.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Non government organization, but you are indeed a government organization.
We just call it something else so they can they
can launder the money. It's just money laundering.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
One oh one.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I don't know how to make it any clear or
any simpler that what's going on here is we're finally
shining that Batman spotlight on what's really going going on
inside the deep state.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
And the Democrats. I've been thinking about this a lot.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
The Democrats argument is to chant f Trump and the
Democrats mission or their their message is that we're killing
old ladies. You even said a word about Wait a minute,
is this money we should be spending or not? And

(33:38):
think about now. Trump stopped the illegal immigration dramatically stopped.
There will all You'll never get to zero. It's like
Sea Dot trying to get to zero traffic deaths. You
will never get there. It is just impossible. That's an impossibility.
And we will never get to zero crossings. I mean,

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even some people made it across the Berlin Wall. So
Democrats just want to keep doing what we're doing. They
actually don't care about waste, thought and abuse. Otherwise they
be running to the White House saying, you know what,
we may not like the process that you're using right now,

(34:23):
but we're with you. How can we help you, or
can we at least talk about the process? Consider oh
Elon Musk is unelected. Well, so is the Secretary of
the Treasury. So is the Chief of Staff.