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February 13, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night, Michael Brown joins me. Here's a former famous
director of the show host Michael Brown. Rowdie.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now, Brownie, you're doing a head of the.

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Job Situation with Michael Brown.

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(01:04):
dot com, seize the day Michael and Dragon.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
So, talking back to Jesse May, I'm telling you what
I guess. Dragon has fear of God put into them,
because when he's here, there's always at least a dozen
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
So I'm starting to take it a little personal, as.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think you should, and quite frankly, if I were
in your shoes, I would I would just call in
sick for the rest of the program, and I'd seek
counseling because clearly, clearly are incompetent of what you're doing,
which is why you're filling in for the other incompetent
guy that is usually sitting back there trying to tell

(01:53):
this incompetent guy what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I was the natural solution.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, natural selection, exactly, natural selection.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Bottom of the barrel, which is why this audience tunes
in here because they feel, hey, they're bottom of the barrel.
They must say, hey, you know what, let's join the company.
I feel obligated to do this. I don't want to
spend much time on it. Guba number fifty eight eleven,

(02:22):
writes Michael. If you can hear some of the commercials
they play through the listen live on the website, your
eye roll would be so violent that you would be
able to see your own hair plugs from the inside
of your skull cap. Terrible woke ads. I'm quite sure
of that. You have to remember that we work for

(02:42):
a predominantly liberal company. This is not what I would
call the most conservative company in the world. Oh, they
understand the value of conservative talk radio, don't get me wrong,
but and advertising is the lifeblood of radio, so they're
going to take whatever they can get. Now, I don't

(03:05):
do that. I mean, I'll take whatever i can get,
but I'm also pretty picky about what I take. But
I would remind you that unless you hear my voice
talking about the retirement planning Stair of the Rockies or
Dan Caplis or Advanced Hair or Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic

(03:25):
or Frank Durant or any of the others, unless you
hear my voice, I have nothing to do with that
commercial whatsoever, which then eighty four ninety nine writes, and
I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure what you
mean here, but to the point that I just made, Michael,

(03:46):
I'm very offended by the radio ad for the Dan
Caplis show playing ac DC's Highway to Hell. And if
I really existed and wasn't invented centuries later and named
for a woman who had or other sons and also daughters,
and no leadership role in the church whatsoever, then I
would curse you and curse six point thirty k how

(04:08):
for playing this despicable song in an ad for my
servant Dan's program, The Extra Blessed Virgins of Mary, Queen
of Heaven, Mother of God, curses on all of you.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
And if you're talking about an ad for the Dan
Caples show, well that's something that I would do with
I would I would talk to Ryan or Kelly about that,
or I talked to Dan about that.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Again, I emphasize unless you hear my voice, and I do,
and I do capitalists, but we don't play Highway to
Hell with under as a bed for a capitalist ad.
Jesse find fine, someone, someone finally is telling us the truth.
Gouber number forty four, sixty seven, Michael Jesse. I don't

(04:58):
like the sound of my voice, so I don't do talkbacks.
So I guess you need to start leaving the talkbacks
for we were number forty four to sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I love the sound of my voice, so I'll just
start doing them all.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh, you do like the sound of your voice. Sure, well,
I'm going home talk No.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, I mean, let's don't rush to conclusions here. I
don't get paid enough.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Do you seriously, do you really like the sound of
your own voice?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, it's still weird every time I hear it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Nobody I've never known of anybody likes the sound of
their own voice.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's very odd. Like live, it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
But if I ever listen to myself back recorded, that's
when it really gets in my head.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
But doing it live, you know, it's no sweat.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
But if I ever am in a situation where I
can like listen to one of my vignettes or something
that I do, yeah, you know, it's some very judgmental
about it.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's just still weird.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I know I don't like the sound of mine either,
but I have just come to well, it is what
it is and I can't change it. And I'm you
know right, I'm not gonna go have my vocal cords
rearranged or anything.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
But I've been told I have a very good voice
for radio. Yeah, in a face.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Such an ass, why do I get all of the
asses to come in, whether it's full time, like with.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Only a handful of PI with you, there's only a
handful of us that will agree to work with you.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's it. Just so you remember four on the call
list yesterday when dragon said he was.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sick, and they kept calling.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I put it the voicemail twice and they kept calling,
and Gods that better answer.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
This must be serious.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Sad part is I actually believe that. That's the part
that I actually believe. Uh No segway best Segway. Obviously, Today,
a vehicle driven by an Afghan asylum seeker, in other words,
an Afghan illegal alien UH killed some pedestrians of Munich

(06:54):
Injuring at least twenty eight, according to the local popo.
UH Obviously, children are among the injured. The photographs from
the scene shows you can see a baby stroller smashed
on the ground the attack. Oh, this is funny. I'm
looking at another story at the same time. The suspected

(07:17):
attack says this story. Listen to the sentence. Listen to
this sentence from this story again, words matter. The suspected
attack occurred a day before a significant security conference was
set to attract global leaders, including US Vice President JD.
Vance and Secretary of State Marco Arubio. Now, if you're

(07:41):
driving a car and you collide with Injuring at least
twenty eight pedestrians, that to me is a very good
indication of intent. Now, I suppose having been in Munich,
there are place in Munich where you can I suppose

(08:03):
pass out and injure twenty eight pads as you drive
down some of these boulevards. I suppose that could happen,
But I would read into that that there was more.
There was more than just an accident involved, because looking
further at another story, the driver is known to authorities

(08:24):
for previous drug and theft offenses, has been taken into
Popo custody, is no longer considered a threat his name
as far had in twenty four years old. He was
in Germany because the authorities decided to tolerate his presence
despite having handed him a deportation order.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Seems to me that we.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Might have a pattern here, because if we go back
to I think December, isn't that when a Saudi illegal
alien drove a car through a packed smith's market in Magdeburg.
I think they killed at least five, injured hundreds. Huh,

(09:10):
seems that they're starting to get pissed off. Oh, as
long as I'm looking at this German paper, government data
shows nearly one fifth of those being rejected at Germany's
newly strengthened borders are Ukrainians, despite their status as refugees
fleeing Russia's invasion, Ukrainians who are supposed to enjoy protection

(09:33):
and temporary residents across the entire EU comprise nineteen point
one percent of those denied entries since August of twenty
twenty three, trading only Syrians at nineteen point eight percent.
You know, Europe is just Europe is totally committing suicide.
I think since October of twenty three, that's when Germany

(09:56):
started to reinstating checkpoints with Poland Czech in Switzerland, adding
to existing controlls that they already had at the Austrian border,
and by last September the remaining borders were also locked down,
So that started the look. I don't think the European Union.

(10:17):
It may not be twenty twenty five, but I think
sometime before the end of this decade, I think the
European Union will completely disappear.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
They don't have their own army all.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
They have a bunch of bureaucrats and Brussels that try
to tell the rest of the continent what to do it,
how to do it, and when to do it and
when not to do it. Brexit has stood the test
of time. The UK did not collapse. They entered into
independent trade agreements with the EU and some of those
countries and with US, so they're doing quite well. So

(10:55):
this whole Shingyen, this whole border of Shingen area that
was supposed to comprise the EU where you could just
you know, get on the Autobahn and just drive from
Spain to France to Germany and never have a checkpoint.
Well Germany has said enough of that and they now
put up checkpoints.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So this.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Free movement migration regime, which was the Shingen Area that
was a pillar of the entire EU idea, that that's
completely gone away. Let's see, around forty five thousand people
were turned away. This is in Germany in twenty twenty
four alone, compared to thirty five thousand, six hundred the

(11:37):
previous year, even as illegal arrivals were reportedly dropping. Reports
suggest that the reason Ukrainians are so prevalent among those
turned away appears to be related to asylum shopping. That is,
the Ukrainians in question have already been granted asylum in
another EU country, but they want to relocate to Germany

(11:59):
because Germany has a much more generous welfare system.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
As I keep telling you.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
When you this the southern border in this country, and
Joe Biden saying that you know, we're a welcoming nation,
and you know, come here and will take care of you.
You're feeding a stray cats, and the cats talk to
each other, and the cats know hey. It's like when
Tama puts the hummingbird feeder out at the undisposed location

(12:28):
in the spring and summer that at first there's one
or two hummingbirds, and then they fly off and they
go tell the other hummingbirds, and pretty soon you got
all the humming birds fighting over that one feeder. And
the same is exactly true when it comes to illegal immigration.

(12:48):
The problem is those on the left, all of the
limousine liberals, will tell you that's cold hearted to say
it that way. I don't think it's cold hearted at all.
I think it's just being realistic. If not that, I
not that I would do this. But let's just say
that you're somebody that's poor in this country and you're

(13:11):
barely getting by, but you can go to Germany and
if you can just scrounge around, you know, scratch up
enough money to get a bus ticket to Germany, which
would be kind of interesting, wouldn't it. But get enough
money to get to Germany and you wouldn't have to work,
and you're provided everything, Why would why would you stay here?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Why not go to Germany? Well, we're doing exactly the
same thing. The figures.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
These figures on Germany just proved my point that when
you offer free stuff, people will go for it, and
the same is true across probably all demographics in this country.
Part of the problem with the middle class is the

(14:00):
middle class gets way too many benefits. Now, you may
say to yourself in a minute, I'm not going any benefits.
Well you may not, But there are other people that
I would consider to be middle class that are not
paying any income taxes that they maybe they got enough
kids that they somehow qualify for a snap program, so.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
They're getting you know, they're getting some extra food.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
So there are grocery bills not quite as high as
what your grocery bill is, even though they have more
kids than you have kids. We create these problems, and
we create the problems because nobody is brave enough to
call a spade a spade. Nobody's brave enough to simply
say this is these are and I know we often

(14:42):
talk about unintended consequences. I think these are intended consequences.
The open border was an intended thing that the Democrats
wanted because they knew that they if they could draw
all of these people in from these craphole countries and
get them in here, they could automatically get them register
as Democrats, and then they would use their get out

(15:04):
the vote machine to get them to go vote Democrat,
and we would have a Democrat, a permanent Democrat majority,
running the entire country. Why do you think Mike Johnson
or Jared Polis believe in sanctuary cities. Why do you
think they're willing to spend one hundred and fifty five
million dollars in the city and County of Denver taking
care of illegal aliens as opposed to doing the things

(15:25):
that really need to be done in the city County
of Denver. More firefighters, more cops, fix the roads, stupid
stop the stupid bike lanes, and everything else that you
do that makes it impossible to travel around. Fix the
potholes on the interstates. But no, we spend money on
all the wrong things, and people just yawn and we

(15:46):
just delve further and further into the crap hole of
leftists insanity, speaking of which I I found this story
hard to believe, except I had to keep reminding myself
that it's Los Angeles. So they're going to implement a

(16:08):
new workplace training program that emphasizes at the same time
that we're trying to get rid of DEI and corporations.
Even the private sector is dubbing DEI. But over in
Los Angeles, what they're doing is they're creating a new
workplace training program that's going to emphasize gender inclusivity and
addresses harassment for city employees, which is obviously, in my opinion,

(16:33):
going to run a foul of these federal authorities. Under
the director signed by President Trump, so city employees, including
those in the fire department in LA must complete annual
workplace harassment and abusive conduct training. I wonder when we're
going to get that. The training encourages the use of

(16:56):
preferred pronouns and addresses gender ideas entity as a protected class.
If gender identity not what you are, but what you
identify as becomes a protected category in Los Angeles, that

(17:18):
means that you know, I, yeah, I'll describe it to
you so yesterday on my ex feet, somebody had a
photograph of some liberals, some Marxists, crying their eyes out
about what Trump's doing with DEI it was obviously a

(17:38):
you know, I'm not quite sure. I think it was
a man, a male who had had breast implants. So
I'm not sure whether that's a transman or trans woman
because I'm not sure where he started. I think he
started as a man. Now, if he started as a
woman and simply has not had a double maths spectomy yet, uh,

(18:01):
he hasn't learned that, you know, trying to be careful
here that really hairy breasts aren't exactly attractive and aren't
exactly normal on a typical female because of female's hormones

(18:25):
versus a male formone. So that guy can identify as
whatever he wants to do, and I guess, could you know,
go play whatever sport or whatever locker room or whatever
restroom he wanted under the what they designated is the
Fork in the Road deferred resignation program. This judge rule

(18:48):
that the government unions that filed the lawsuit that were
trying to block the program lacked legal standing and that
his court lacks the judicial jurisdiction to even rule on
the map. And I think the judge is exactly right.
This is about this is not about a union contract.
The union doesn't represent I mean, they would represent an

(19:10):
individual employee in a contract dispute, but they don't represent
the individual employee in terms of their employment. They can
they can go argue on behalf of the employee, but
the agreement is the employment agreement itself is between the
federal government, whatever agency of department they're working for, and

(19:34):
that employee. Now, the terms of the of the employment,
the benefits, that sort of thing might be governed by
the contract, but the actual employment is governed by those
two entities, the federal government and the individual. So the
judge is absolutely right that the unions that the suit

(20:00):
to block the program didn't have standing because they don't
represent the individual employees.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And of course I think he's also.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Right that he doesn't have judicial jurisdiction to even rule
in the matter.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, why is that important?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Last week, O'Toole delayed the deadline for federal workers to
accept the buyout offer. It was originally slated for last
week February sixth, at eleven fifty nine, until he could
hear arguments from both the plainists and the Trump administration about,
you know, make your case to me. So this fork
in the road deferred resignation program essentially offers government employees

(20:38):
eight months of paying benefits in exchange for their voluntary
resignation at a preset date in this coming fall. The
whole purpose is encourage people who are thinking about leaving
the federal government, or those who may have another offer,

(20:58):
or those who are just tired of all of the
back and forth about working home, not working home, whatever.
Here's your chance to go. And it's actually even though
we pay them through September whenever it is in the fall,
and then they get whatever benefits they're entitled to upon retirement,
still saves us money.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I thought it was a brilliant move on the Trump
administration to speed up these retirements, the judge said in
his decision. The plaintiffs here, the union, are not directly
impacted by the directive. Instead, they allege that the directive
subjects them to upstream effects, including a diversion of resources

(21:43):
to answer members questions about the directive, a potential loss
of membership, and possible reputational harm. Now think about that,
for a second. So your argument that you ought to
be able to have standing in this district courtroom, federal

(22:04):
district courtroom, is because your union members are coming to
you with questions. So you're telling me that union members
never have come to you with questions before about their contract,
and only because of this new plan to encourage them
to leave early. That's causing you to have to answer questions,

(22:28):
and so therefore you want to enjoin and stop this
directing from taking effect.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean it's absurd.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Or the second one a potential loss of membership, Well, yeah, uh,
an employee can decide I'm not gonna pay any dues anymore.
I'm I'm leading, I'm dropping my membership in the union.
Or those who never even join the union. There's no
mandate that you have to join the union, so you

(23:00):
that doesn't give you standing in front of a federal
district judge. And then the last one possible reputational harm.
You know, whatever lawyer argued that they have possible reputational
harm probably wasn't a very good lawyer, because you need
to show that you're going to have reputational harm and

(23:22):
that you can quantify that. Otherwise, you know what Michael
Brown says something bad about me today. Okay, well, what
are you gonna do? Assume me for libel and slander? Okay,
what are the damages?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I don't want you to do that because then I'm
gonna have to hire a lawyer to go defend me,
and that's going to cost money. But ultimately I'm not
gonna be liable. The judge continued, The unions do not
have the required direct stake in this Fork directee, but
are challenging a policy that affects others, specifically executive branch employees.

(23:57):
So this is not sufficient. But he didn't stop there.
Kind of like this judge, he wrote, second, this court
lacks subject matter jurisdiction to consider the plain as pleated claims.
While not binding on this court, the decision in American

(24:18):
Federation of Government Employees AFLCIO versus Trump is instructive. This
is a twenty nineteen case. The two Administrative Procedure Act
claims alleged in this case are the type of challenges
that Congress intended for review within the statutory scheme, which
provides for administrative review, not judicial review. Now, you can,

(24:43):
ultimately under the APA the administrative Procedures Act. Once you
get in the decision from whatever administrative agency is going
to make that determination. Once that determination has made, you
could appeal that and try to get judicial review, but
it's not mandated. Almost sixty five thousand employees have already

(25:04):
accepted the buyout, and I say that's a damn good start.
And speaking of lawsuits, Pam Bondi yesterday announced charges against
Kathy holckle Up, the Governor of New York, and New
York Attorney General Letitia James, the Queen of law Fair,

(25:25):
the one that went after Trump's valuation of mar A Lago. Yep,
the Attorney General has filed a lawsuit against New York,
the governor and the Attorney General.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
The oh I forgot about this.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
The commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles has also
been cited in this lawsuit. Now, the suit centers on
the Democrats alleged failure to enforce immigration laws in the state,
in other words, being a sanctuary city, and they alleged
the Attorney general does resulted in American citizens being victimized

(26:03):
by illegal aliens. In other words, your actions have violated
the civil rights, including criminal activity against American citizens. And
you're encouraging that she didn't mince words in the least why.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
She was doing this.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
We're here today because we have filed charges against the
state of New York. We have filed charges against Kathy Hochel,
We have fouled charges against Letitia James and Mark Schroeder,
who is with DMV. This is a new DOJ and
we are taking steps to protect Americans, American citizens and

(26:46):
Angel moms like the mom standing right behind me, who
you're going to hear from in a moment. New York
has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It stops.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
It stops today.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
The only thing I would argue is there she didn't
file criminal charges. She filed a civil suit to make
them drop and to prevent them flement forcing their sanctuary
city and sanctuary state laws. And New York was the
perfect place to start. What would be another good place

(27:23):
to start? You've done New York. Why don't you at
the same time that you're doing New York, Why don't
you come to Colorado? Why don't you go to California?
Why don't you go to Illinois? Why don't you go
to Massachusetts? They could blanket the country, and particularly as
much as Colorado has been in the news about Trenda Roguin,

(27:45):
the Venezuelan gangs, and as much as Mike Johnson has
beat his chest about we're not gonna change, We're gonna
I'm gonna stand up to this administration and olbody by
the way, the Attorney General Phil Wiser, he's also one
of those guys that thought, you know, we're gonna protect
the citizens of call it right, glad to know you're
going to protect the citizens. What you're really doing is
you're protecting the non citizens of this state. So I

(28:10):
say power to Pam Bondy, keep it going as long
as we're talking about Democrats and their stupidity. The former
Speaker of the House in Illinois, Michael Madigan, received a
mixed verdict in a really high profile corruption trial this week.

(28:30):
He previously led the Illinois House for more than thirty years.
He was convicted on ten counts, acquitted to seven. Jurors
could not reach a decision on six other charges. What
was the trial about bribery, racketeering accusations and it came
after more than ten days of jury deliberation. Madigan, this

(28:55):
legislator in Illinois. The speaker has been dubbed the Velvet
Hammer because of his influential yet very low key leadership style.
You harady hear anything about him. They relied on secret
recordings by a former Chicago City councilman, Alderman, and who

(29:16):
turned an FBI informant, and in a bizarre move, the
Speaker took the stand testifying on his own behalf in
a criminal trial. So in a twenty three count indictment,
he's found guilty on more than half of them. They
had all these recordings that his actions were described as

(29:40):
an abuse of power, testimony from over sixty witnesses. So
once he was indicted, he resigned, or I should say,
retired from politics. Fascinating that everywhere you look, the deep

(30:00):
state and the establishment is being attacked and being pushed aside,
and in many cases convicted once again. Quite simply, it's
the Trump effect.
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