3-24-25 - 7am - Denver Buys Park and Bernie-AOC Rally

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, this is Guber seven three nine six at Louisville, Kentucky.
I'm really concerned for the people of Louisville, Colorado, because
all these new houses that are required to have these
charging stations put in it. I wond if they're gonna
get burned down again. You know, some cycle might do
it out there.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
There are no cycles in Colorado, none at all. I want.
I want to go to the AOC Bernie rally that
was held in Civic Center Park and up in Gritty.
But before I do, Dragon handed me a story that
I casually mentioned that you know, Florida has a doge

(00:35):
in which they're trying to seek out waste, fraud and abuse,
and that wouldn't it be nice if Jared Polish and
the Cadil Democrats, rather than focusing on taking away your
Second Amendment rights for Senate Bill three, would instead focus on, oh,
maybe we should find some waste fraud and abuse in Colorado. Nope,
we're doing the exact opposite. Yeah we are. Denver is

(00:56):
spending over five million dollars to buy a part that
is already a park, says the headline. Now I skim
through this and I kind of get why they're doing
what they're doing, but doing it the way they're doing
it shows you just how stupid they are. This comes
to us from denveright since O seven, so for what

(01:23):
eighteen years now? The Downtown Children's playground along Spear Boulevard.
I can't pickure. I can't picture where that is, dragon,
can you? I can't no idea me either. I can't
think of where Downtown Children's playground anywhere? Wherever it is, y'all?
You know? Because of something later in the story, I
bet it's close to where you know where the ARII

(01:46):
is as you pull off twenty five on Spear Boulevard
to go into downtown, right there in that corner. Yeah,
I bet it's in that. I bet it's in that area.
Simply because of who owns the easement, I think that
might be where it is. The land beneath the playground
is owned by Union Pacific Railroad. The city of the

(02:09):
story says was able to build a playground on the
property because it had an easement allowing the use of
the property. The story then says this well, Union Pacific
Railroad had made no indication that it would sell the
land or it made it Neither did it make any
indication that it would rescind the easement, So there was

(02:32):
uncertainty about the park's future, which was the concern for
city officials. Now, if Union Pacific has granted an easement,
and here's the other thing, nowhere in the story does
it say how long the easement was. It may have

(02:53):
been one hundred year easement and it's and they're unto
their seventeen year of it or eighteenth year of it.
That means you've got what you've got eighty two years
left to go, eighty two eighty three years left to
go on the easement. So why are you worried about
it now? And if Union Pacific has not indicated anything

(03:18):
like we're thinking about rescinding the easement, or if Union
Pacific hasn't come to the city in County of Denver
and said, hey, listen, we're thinking about building a rail
yard here, what's the panic about this? Now? If I
were Union Pacific and I had this and this was

(03:42):
my easement that I granted to the city in County
of Denver for a children's playground or for whatever use
they wanted to do with it, but they chose to
make it into a park, I would sit dumb, fat
and happy on it. You know why because of this.
A spokesperson for the Department of Finance in Denver, Joshua Rosenbloom, said,

(04:06):
Denver is being proactive. We don't currently own the land
and would like to continue to provide the community the
benefit of the continued use of the park. Okay, well, again,
really bad journalism. But what prompted this. Did somebody just
one day go oh, look, the Eastman is now seventeen

(04:29):
eighteen years old. It was a twenty or twenty five
year easement. We ought to go to Union Pacific and
we ought to do something about it. We ought to
see if we can extend the Eastman, or we ought
to see if we could buy the land. If that's true.
But there's no indication in the story that that is true.
So the easement's there now again, play along with me. Well,

(04:52):
if the was a one hundred year easeman, a five
hundred year easement, that's probably unheard of, but one hundred
year easeman is very is actually quite common. So there's
a one hundred year easement, you're into the seventeenth year.
You've got another eighty three years to go on the easement.
What's the rush? So Union Pacific not having any plans

(05:16):
to use the land whatsoever, having granted a one hundred
year easement or even a seventeen yearman In negotiations, the
person who makes the first move, the person who offers
the first number, loses. You know why, because one, you've

(05:38):
shown that you want it really badly, and you've shown
your cards by showing how much in your first offer
you're willing to go, which the other party assumes is
your low ball offer. Right, Denver will pay five does
it say? How? Let's see modest outdoor space? So it

(06:03):
features two separate place structures, a covered picnic area and
a rope climbing area. So what the size of not
even the size of the entire fourth floor of this building.
Denver will pay five point two million dollars for the property,

(06:24):
with the money coming from the park's legacy Fund and
the Real Estate Capital Improvement Fund. Denver City Council proved
the contract to purchase the land last week and is
set to vote to finalize the funding mechanism today. Oh yeah,
I see the property is near Spear and we Wata,
So it's exactly where I thought it was because I

(06:45):
assume it was close to where Union Pacific had tracks
that were running through downtown Denver. We look forward to
completing the sale of this property that will be beneficial
to both the city and Union Pacific in the coming weeks.
According to a Union specific S Pacific spokesperson in an email,

(07:10):
what was the rush five point two million dollars? Uh? Look,
downtown land is valuable, but probaly could have gotten Let's
say it was a twenty year lease, or even a
twenty five year lease. You could have gone to Union
Pacific and said, hey, could we extend the lease to

(07:34):
the easement to one hundred years? Or you could have
gone to Union Pacific because if Union Pacific hasn't been
using the lease for the past let's just say seventeen well,
and obviously it hasn't been for the past seventeen years,
maybe Union Pacific would like to donate the land hmm

(07:56):
and save Denver taxpayers five point two million dollars. What
do you think Trump would have done? What do you
think the real estate developer Donald Trump would have done?
I think you probably would have gone to Union Pacific
and said, hey, hey, listen, not you bozos. We built
the kids parking here. Look at these kids. Look, look

(08:19):
I brought some video. Look at these kids playing on
the swing. Look at these kids playing. Look at these
moms and the buggies taking their children around. Look look
how green and nice this is. Give us that land,
give it to us. And Union Pacific would have said,
you know what, let's have a big ass public relations
event and let's hand over the deed to this property

(08:42):
to the people of Denver for a park, and let's
let Union Pacific get some great publicity and we get
a tax right off because we've donated the land. Now
it's a win win. But they Union Pacific didn't do that.
And why do you think they didn't do that? Because
Denver came running with a check for five point two

(09:04):
billion dollars and being the good private corporation that Union
Pacific is, says, okay, sure we'll take your money. Good grief, dragon,
that's you're welcome. Happy, stupid, stupid, stupid, Oh my god,
this place is so stupid. Let's talk about the the rally.

(09:28):
I did not listen to it because I don't I
don't have space in my brain for their bull crap,
so I didn't. I didn't listen to any of it,
but I was fascinated by the photos. So I paid
particular attention to the photos and the videos of the crowd,
both in Greeley and in downtown Denver, because I wanted
to see who was there. One Do I recognize anybody?

(09:52):
And I want to see the demographics. What do they
look like? Well, it looks like a bunch of white liberals.
Looks like a bunch of I would say, middle aged,
like forty something up. I didn't see a lot of
what I would consider to be now everybody to means young, Ye,
I mean, I mean hell's bells. If you're eighty years old,
you're young to me. Is this the white suburban women

(10:13):
that you pissed off last week? Yes, I think that's
exactly who it was. In fact, one of them seemed
to be popping some sort In one photo, she seemed
to be popping something into her mouth, and I thought, hmm,
a little XANAX, little value. What do you take us, sweetheart?

(10:34):
But I don't know. But what I did not see
were a bunch of eighteen to twenty somethings. I think
progressives are feeling pretty ambivalent about the fact that no
other than Senator Bernie Sanders has emerged as the de

(10:55):
facto leader of the resistance against that Orange man in
the White House. I know that history repeats itself, but
I didn't realize that history would repeat itself so quickly
and so rapidly. And of course, why is AOC there? Well,
AOC is there because I mean, I'm telling you, you've

(11:19):
got to believe me on this. Every member of Congress,
at one time or another, and every single governor in
the state at one time another, even if it's just
a fleeting moment, dreams of being President of the United
States of America. Jared Polis, I think, goes to bed
every night dreaming about it, spends his waking hours dreaming

(11:40):
about it, wakes up every morning dreaming about it. And
that's all he can think about is President Polis. Has
a nice alliteration to it, doesn't it, President Polis? And
of course he would also fit one of the boxes
because he would be the first bald gay man. Yeah,
in that fantastic wonderful. On the one hand, it's really

(12:06):
kind of amazing to behold that that old Bernie Socialists
kind of getting the band back together for the stop oligarchy. Tour.
I'd like to have walked through the crowd and ask
what is the oligarchy? Is American control controlled by an oligarchy?
And who are they? What are they? What? What is

(12:27):
oligarch They've been drawing crowds, sizable crowds all across the country,
tens of thousands. They're now they're now here in the
Mountain West. And of course Sanders has been decrying the
evils of the oligarchy for decades now, and with Elon
Musk being perceived by them as the co president, well,

(12:51):
Bernie looks like a prophet. On the other hand, there
is very little bit Sanders, even with AOC by his side,
that they can accomplish. The Democrats are the minority party.
They're afraid of their own shadow. And Sanders is eighty
three years old, stooping more every year, and every year

(13:14):
that goes by, stoops over just a little bit more.
As I watched the video, the experience of seeing Bernie
Sanders rail against capitalism and then railing against the one
percenters isn't quite like it was a decade ago. The fact,

(13:35):
it's not quite like it was even what five or
six years ago when he was running for president again.
It's like Tamer told me about some girlfriends of hers
that went to Vegas to see Rod Stewart, and Tamer
was laughing about how they were all giddy and excited

(13:55):
to see Rod Stewart and that they were amazed to
see the eighties, plus how old Rod Stewart is prancing
and dancing and gyrating around on the stage again at
eighty years old. And it kind of reminds me of that.
For these Democrats, it's like hearing, you know, the timeless hits,

(14:17):
seeing the old stars, all of that, seeing the Rolling
Stones again, you know, seeing Keith Rigs up there. Still
are you mummified? Are you really alive and knocking it out?
But the thrill is fleeting. The thrill is gone, because

(14:39):
whether you're watching the Stones or Rod Stewart, when it
comes to Bernie, are you still feeling the burn or
is it heartburn? And here's why I ask the question
that way, because it isn't just Bernie who's getting along
in the tooth. So were the people in the crowd

(15:00):
now compared to me, they're not long in the two,
but them to be Bernie supporters, they're aging right along
with him every year. That Bernie gets older, they get older,
and there doesn't seem to be, at least in the
crowds that I saw any sort of younger group. And
I'm talking about the eighteen to say, eighteen to thirty crowd.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I know there were scattered twenty somethings in the crowd,
but not like what you would expect, and certainly not
like what there was a decade ago. I've read where
you know, some some reporters used to describe Bernie rallies
as a punk rock presidential campaign. It was a middle
finger to the establishment, and it was all these college,

(15:46):
you know, mobile college students, twenty somethings. That was the crowd,
and that was the dynamic that played out back in
twenty sixteen the Democrat primary, in which Sanders just absolutely
boomed fump Hillary Clinton among the under thirty voters, including
eighty three percent of the young people in New Hampshire.
But not today. Today those packing Civic Center park or

(16:12):
high school auditoriums to cheer Bernie or they're actually out
marching in the streets. It's not really lollapalooza. It's more
like a bunch of you know, moms with their now
first graders or second graders showing up at a school
board meeting because they're pissed off about, you know, the

(16:34):
quality of the launch program. The same millennials that make
leftist populism cool back in twenty ten and march for
some sort of racial reckoning, you know, back during the
summer of violence. I mean, I'm sorry, the summer of love.
They're all now staunching towards middle age, white haired dissidents

(16:54):
at TESLA protests. Outmember those two young jermind of cars, Michael.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
The thing that you're miss s about that five million
bucks to the Union Pacific is half of that's coming
back to the Democrats for re election. So it's a
pretty great move on their part. Once again, have a
good day.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Half of it's coming back to the Democrats reelection. The
sitting in County of Denver is paying Union Pacific? Are
you assuming by a way of Union Pacific donating to
the Democratic the Democratic Party?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Is that? Is that? Is that the link you're making?
I haven't looked at Union Pacific's contribution record. If you,
if you got influence that, send it to me. I'd
like to see it. I mean, I could go look
it at myself, but I'm justus. He doing another story
right now other than what's going on at say Columbia,

(17:59):
and and I think that's being driven by a small
minority of anti Semites. College campuses have been really quiet,
and the youth are really kind of missing. You go
look at those videos, and I do mean the white
haired dissidents of these Tesla protests and at the Bernie

(18:22):
Sanders rallies really do outnumber those two young to even
run a car. We're watching a changing of the guard,
but it's back to the old guard, not to a
new guard. The youth really are missing. In a lot
of online forms, these political organizers are making noise about

(18:46):
the missing youth. There's a viral post over on the
subreddit for the five O five oh one movement, the
online group that's coordinating the anti Trump Capital City protests
and others, and one commentator wrote this, the last two
Tesla protests I went to, the majority were elderly, and

(19:08):
I appreciate their support, but why no young people? If
at age thirty, I'm the youngest person showing up, that's
a problem. And then even another post on that subred
it said that another post suggests that there were more
elderly Trump voters opposing the president's overreach than there were

(19:29):
young Liberals that were opposing the president so called overreach.
So I don't think it's any coincidence that the most
significant impact made by the resistance thus far has been
a consumer boycott by older Democrats refusing to buy teslas. Okay,

(19:49):
we'll call somebody that cares, because that means you've got
a larger problem. It's not as if a lot of
twenty year old Baristas or other members of the precariot
are the ones withholding their cyber truck purchases. I saw
I saw an ex or somewhere yet me x or
Facebook yesterday somebody who's scratching the head about they were

(20:12):
having a hard time paying off their's cyber truck, and
they showed their statement and it was like, Okay, out
of the past twenty payments you've made, about half of
them have been late. Their payment was more than seventeen
hundred dollars a month, and their outstanding balance was in

(20:33):
excess of one hundred thousand dollars. And I'm thinking, Wow,
depending on what your income is, you probably paying well
over fifty percent maybe of your monthly take home pay
for a stupid cyber truck, and you're running and you're
buying payments half the time. Yeah, I imagine you're having
a hard time knocking down that interest. But anyway, so

(20:59):
with young people not showing up, the big dad energy
at these rallies is not really going to have a
major impact. Yes, the sides of the Sanders rallies are impressive,
but as we note when they do the tracking of
the cell phone data, a significant portion of those have

(21:22):
been to five or more rallies all across the country.
They're coming in. They're truly Bernie bros. They're Bernie groupies,
and these old farts who have, I guess, have nothing
better to do, are following him around from rally to rally.
But then you look at all the other protests, even

(21:46):
the Tesla protests, they're largely a fraction of the size
they were during Trump's first term. The sizzle is gone,
and I think that's because the kids are gone. Where
did these kids go? And we know from the polling
data that most of them didn't vote at all. The
peak of the hyperpolitics era is probably starting to get

(22:11):
behind us and election turnout in November actually, even though
Trump improved his numbers, got the popular vote, got an
overwhelming majority of the electoral college, there still was a
downward trend for young adults, their disillusion with all the institution,

(22:32):
their disillusion with the courts, the media, politicians, no matter
which party they are affiliated with. Gallup found that less
than a third of under thirties trust government now. When
I first read through the gallop pulling on that, my
reaction was, what good? I don't want them trusting the

(22:58):
government now. They have to be convinced by us that
our philosophy of limited government, free markets, individual liberty, individual
freedom is what they're seeking and what they look for.
I don't speak to a lot of young people who

(23:20):
view all politics as toxic, who view politics as a
form of entertainment that's not changing the world. And maybe
that's because the young people that I do speak to
are generally active, generally conservative, and really do like what's
going on and they do actually participate. But then for

(23:41):
those all those others, you have to ask, why go
out and do this doom marching in public when you
can sit at home and doom scroll through social media,
or you can just cripple all your anxiety with you
know another you know, giant luck, bronde latte or whatever

(24:01):
it is they're going to drink. And then you get this.
When those young people did vote, they voted Republican again.
David Shore, the data whiz kid, Trump won a majority
of those under the age of twenty six, with the
exception of women of color. That is a that's a

(24:24):
drastic change from both twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. So
what did they do. They voted for a political revolution
over the status quo, but a political revolution from the right,
not the left, which is what we're going through right now.

(24:45):
And going through the revolution is I understand, is uncomfortable,
disconcerting to some people, but this is what we wanted.
Gen Z loves eighties nostalgia, all kinds stranger things, market
friendly politics of Michael J. Fox's Alex Keaton character from

(25:07):
the Family, ties that com all of those things. They
love all of that stuff. But there's been a reluctance
to demonstrate, even among the young leftists now. I think
part of that might be that, yes, when the protests
are turning to violence and their protests have at their
core anti Semitism, I think a lot of young people

(25:31):
are shunning that and saying, no, we don't need part
of that. But I think there's been an ideological shift,
maybe more of a drift, but certainly a shift among
activists who reject The Sanders coalition has sellouts who ended
up supporting genocide Joe. Remember that phrase, all of genocide Joe.

(25:54):
The under thirty leftists that are kind of still out
there are delusional anarchists. But they don't talk about Medicare
for all. They don't talk about minimum wage hikes, they
don't talk about all the universal programs that Bernie goes
out and spouts out in the Bernie world. They do

(26:17):
this small minority views gas as the mother of all causes,
the most important battleground in all the fights against radical Islamis,
against Western the so called colonizers, all other causes that
these young leftists are focused on. Think about it, they're

(26:41):
kind of related, transjustice, long, COVID, fat shaming, autistic. No
wonder the normies aren't grabbing their gifts and joining up.
There's But if there's someone can relate to dropping out
of politics, it's Democrats at large. Because what I'm witnessing

(27:08):
other than Bernie and AOC is the party leaders are mia.
Probably a more accurate way to put it is that
the party leaders are nonexistent. Who are the party leaders?
If you look around, there are none. Chuck Schumer is

(27:31):
probably facing a primary, probably from AOC. I don't have
the SoundBite in front of me right now, But Bernie
was asked by ABC's Jonathan Carl. I think it was
Jonathan Carl. They were going through a series of questions,
and Jonathan Carl asked just a very generic question about

(27:52):
the upcoming midterm elections and whether he thought Chuck Schumer,
And before he could even get Chuck Schumer's name out,
Bernie jumps up out of the chair and declares the
interviewer's order over because and then he starts arguing with
Jonathan Carl about I told you I wasn't going to
talk about general lack. I'm talking about issues. I'm talking
about policies. I'm not going to talk about the mid term.
I'm not going about the election. And Jonathan's trying to

(28:13):
get him to sit back down and answer the question
because it wasn't going to be necessarily be about AOC.
It was going to be a more general question about
leadership in the Democrat Party, and I think he's probably
My guess is what he was going to ask is
aren't you establishing yourself or haven't you already established yourself?
Bernie as the titular head the Democrat Party could just

(28:38):
ask yourself this question. Could Chuck Schumer draw the crowds
that Bernie and aoc are, could Hakeem Jeffries milk toast
Hakeem Jeffries draw those crowds. No, I think it's one
more example of the Trump effect. Trump figured out, whether

(28:59):
it was with the help of Baron or it was
with the help of Susie Wiles, whoever it might have been,
knew how to tap into that young voter group, and
he grabbed them and they ran with him.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Morning goobers, It's time to get down with Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
What the hell was that? Get down with Michael Brown?
So during the break, I was scrolling through Today's Wall
Street Journal just see what the headlines were, and I
come across this story. Remember at the beginning of the show,
I talked about how I believe that the whole climate
change mantra is beginning to kind of slowly dissipate. And

(29:41):
that's not to say that it won't come back again.
But there's some sort of change going on. And I
think the willingness of these leftist protesters to go out
and basically destroy the shrine that they had established for
the church of the climate activists. I mean, can't you see,

(30:01):
rather than having a communion table, they've got a cyber truck,
or they've got a Tesla S or whatever they're called,
whatever models. They are up front, and they all bowing
worship to the Tesla and now they're burning it. They're
burning the thing that they thought was going to save
the climate. Here's the headline. Startups that set out to

(30:23):
fix the climate are now talking about jet fighters. Subhead.
Companies that once touted the green benefits of their work
are pivoting to defense and artificial intelligence. First couple of paragraphs.
Climate startups are going quiet about the climate. A generation

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of companies that launched in recent years promising to wean
the economy off fossil fuels are revamping their pitch to
be more in tune with the zeitgeist. Companies developing climate
friendly metals, cement, and fuel are now emphasizing how their
products benefit national security as global trade disputes increase. Other

(31:08):
green technology developers are seeking thish in the hot artificial
intelligence market. Many got their start when economic and political
forces were aligned behind climate action. The pivot come, the
pivots come as those forces wane, And of course they
got a great chart showing the amount of venture capital

(31:29):
or IPO, secondary private placement reverse mergers have back. In
twenty twenty one, all climate related were close to one
hundred and seventy five billion dollars and in twenty twenty
four dropped to less than fifty billion dollars. So what
was once the darling of the left, the darling of

(31:53):
the VC venture capitalists, is now turning to oh, we
need a lot of electricity for artificial intelligence. And artificial
intelligence really is the Manhattan Project of our lifetimes. It
really is now. I know it's good and bad, but

(32:14):
it's like in my opinion, any other technology, it'll have great,
wonderful things that it will do. There was a story
over the weekend study done about they used artificial intelligence
versus doctors to diagnose and recommend treatments, and the treatments

(32:34):
recommended by artificial intelligence seemed to have better outcomes and
patience had a much more confidence in the AI diagnoses
than they did with their own doctors with a human diagnosis.
I'm not quite sure I'm there yet, but it shows that, Wow,

(32:55):
it really does have huge potential. And what's it doing.
At the same time, It's killing off concerns about the climate,
you see. I think their hypocrisy and the lies have
been exposed so much that the church is beginning to disintegrate,
and I think that's a good thing.