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May 13, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My mom always told me, when people show you who
they are, believe them. Remember how Mayor Mikey gave his
elite team members that earn over six figures ten to
forty percent raises because we need to be competitive. Yet
he's taken away mental health benefits for first responders and
also has decided that fire and police don't need raises.

(00:24):
Huh speak volumes.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I had ad a text message this morning that I
thought was interesting as far as our discussion about Rockies baseball.
Uh goober number zero two three eight rights, Michael, you
know my office is located Actually I didn't know that,
but I do now. Your office is located at or
their office is located at twenty three oh one Blake,
right next to Corus Field. Our parking lot in our

(00:51):
building is always up for sale for Rockies games. The
last couple of home games that lot has not sold out. Sure, yeah,
I noticed yesterday continuing on Facebook, apparently our star pitcher,
whatever his name is, the guy that sidelined with him injury,
came out and blasted ownership. At least what I read

(01:14):
on Facebook, So you know it must be true. And
then I think, because the algorithm detected that I was
stopping and reading. Interact.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
You didn't interact.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I didn't interact. Paused, I paused, I read, and then
I scrolled and I saw another one, and there were
several official Rockies announcements. So then I would you consider
this interaction? I clicked on the comments to read through
the comments, so that I guess that's why the algorithm
started feeding me more of it. But holy caw, I

(01:45):
think I think we may be close to a fan
revolution in Colorado. I think they may have reached their limit.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I still I would go to a game only if
I got free tickets from here. Yeah, well, not just
any of the tickets, the ones behind home, because I know, right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
And and to get into the suite to sit up
in the club too, yeah yeah. Although unless you're taking clients,
there won't be food. True, You take your client and
there'll be some food. Yeah yeah yeah. So anyway, I hope.
So the continuing saga of the Cleveland Spiders aka the
Colorado Rockies continues. And then Dragon put this on my

(02:25):
UH on my console this morning. For two years, for
two years, denver Man tried to get pothole fixed on
his street. He says, I just thought it wouldn't be
a big you know, no big deal story goes where's
this from? This is this? I'm guessing from nine news? Yeah,
nine news. Probably a man in Denver's Green Valley Ranch

(02:46):
neighborhood reached out to Steve on your side. Pretty clever alliteration.
There's Steve's on your son. Thanks Steve, Thanks Steve. And
after he spent two years trying to get the city's
attention about a pothole in the neighbor in his neighborhood street,
David white House said the whole open after a heavy
hailstorm in May of twenty three. White House estimated he

(03:08):
contacted Denvers three one one, fifteen to twenty times over
the past two years. He also RECEI even out to
a city council member and nothing worked. Three hundred and
eleven patches you over to wastewater, Then they put you
on hold for a while. Someone from wastewater comes on.
They want the picture. Then they say they'll send someone
over to take a look at it first and then
get it fixed. After that, nothing ever happened to me.

(03:31):
That's the money quote right there. So wastewater wants a
photo and then they'll look at the photo, and then
they'll send somebody out and they'll look at the whole,
and then they'll after that send the team out to
patch the whole. Could we be any more bureaucratic? Could

(03:51):
we be any more wasteful than that? You think government
is the solution to your problems? You are an idiot.
White House. The hole was in front of a friend's home.
He worried about people walking near the street getting hurt.
It was a foot in diameter. You could put your
you could stick your hand into the into the storm,
drain from it. I just thought, man, no big deal.

(04:12):
I'll call and have it fixed. I never imagine would
take two years. Steve on your side reached out to
Denver's Department of Transportation, and within a day of our call,
the whole had been patched. What I love it. Yeah,

(04:36):
we'll get to that someday. Yeah, we'll get to that
one of these days. Yeah, we'll get to it. You know,
we'll get a uh, well, we'll eventually get around to it.
You might had a crazy uncle that he had these
little wooden They were like wooden Nichols, except it said
on it, A round to it t U I T

(04:59):
so when everybody I said, I would, you know, whenever
I can get around to it, I'll do it. He
would pull those out of his pocket and give it
to somebody around to it. So whenever you get around
to it. Yes, we live in stupid times. Then I
ran into this this morning. Oh yes, I need to Well,

(05:23):
it's early, you know, it's early, and we're professionals, and
quite frankly, the quality of the program's nothing that we
ever really thought about.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Did a double click there, Michael, No.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I didn't have it, and the microphone turned on.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Americans are getting lazy. Too many holidays, too much Netflix,
not enough work. You wonder why the country's slipping because
half the nation thinks self care means staying home when
government checks. When I was in charge, we worked, we won.
Now it's mental health Monday, Taco Tuesday, and no one

(05:55):
shows up on Friday. You want America to be great again,
try showing up five days in a row.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Taco it is Tuesday, Taco Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I saw that. Let's see if I copy of video
of it.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
See the the audio is pretty good. I know that's
a that's not really his voice. But the video you
showed me this this morning in our pre production meeting.
That's it's. I don't want to give any spoilers or anything,
but but Michael's gonna send that to me, and I
just to Michael says, go here dot com.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's it's it. I just think it's funny because the
the AI is pretty clever and it really No.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I can't. I'm not gonna go any further. You just
have to go to Michael says, go here dot com.
It's it's good.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh, Carol says, we got club level seats for a
Rockies game for twenty five dollars each. What does that
tell you? Wow? Yeah, five dollars for seats. That's pretty

(07:04):
darn good. Okay, So the president is in Saudi Arabia
and oh my god, see, and everybody's just all a
dither about, oh he's being he's being lavishly welcomed. Well,
it's the Saudis. They got more money than God, and

(07:24):
of course they're gonna do it lavishly.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And the Trump happens to the president of a nation.
So I would think that if somebody is coming to
visit your company or your country, you would welcome them
in how you would welcome them. And as you just stated,
they're pretty wealthy.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So yeah, I would say the only people the Saudis
probably would not welcome lavishly would be the Prime Minister
Modi of India or whoever the Prime minister is of Pakistan,
because they just use those people as their servants.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I would expect them to do the same thing. If
Biden were to have showed up over there, they would
have welcomed him lavishly as well.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
You're right. They They probably would have had like a
giant really lavish with it like an umbrella attached to it. Wheelchair,
a motorized wheelchair that would pull up to the baby
steps of Air Force one and then you know, let him,
let you know, let him sit in it, and then
they could operate it remotely. He wouldn't even have to
touch the you know, like most handicapped people they have

(08:22):
the little buttons of little little joystick. Yeah, the little
joystick over here. Biden wouldn't even have to do that.
They would have just directed him where to go, and
they might have taken him mic over into a sand
dude and like watched him roll down the hill or something.
Do you do you remember the good old days, the
good old days, you know, three months ago when all

(08:42):
the catchy slogans like you know I voted for this
were everywhere, and almost every former Trump aiding commentator used
that grace period in the good old days, and you know,
just neighborly sentiments of good feelings, you know, good feelings
to repent of their fallacious thinking and join the party.
And they were all, you know, we were all. It

(09:04):
was happy days are here again. I kind of remember that.
In fact, agenda items were being checked off with such
lightning speed that I found it almost impossible to document
all the progress. Reading from a story that reminded me
of this, Americans in the Trump forty seven era are

(09:25):
faced with an unfortunate double edged sword. For those who
support Trump's agenda, which now has record high approval, his
presidential actions and executive orders have been impressively bold and
focused on maximum impact. For those considering the long term picture,
the total breakdown and compromise of the legislative branch of
government means the chief executive exercises maximum power and authority,

(09:49):
creating a precedent that will extend to the future less
virtuous presidents. This means all Trump executive actions must be
handed down in such a manner that they are irreversible
and transformative. President Trump is checking off campaign promises at
lightning speed. Now people were at in the good old days.

(10:13):
I think they were genuinely excited to see that commitment,
that level of commitment to fulfilling promises which are far
too often just used as a big grift by politicians
to get an office. You know, I promise you this,
he's like running for the adult politicians are no better
than high school politicians. You know, we'll have taco Tuesday,

(10:35):
We'll have pizza Friday. You know, homework will be limited
to you know, to just like Monday, Wednesday, you know,
or whatever. You know, they do the same thing. You
you know, they after the inauguration, even those on the left,
had you know, a big inaugural tables and had big
parties and everything. They may not have been to the
official party if they were having their own parties too.

(10:56):
And I know that executive orders can simply be rescinded
by the next that stumbles into that office. But if
you're as of aware, if you are aware as to
how poorly configured that we as a nation are for
sweeping legislative change, you are likely to make peace with

(11:16):
letting the proverbial quarterback take it into the end zone himself,
which is what Trump's trying to do. Now. Some of
these items can be dealt with in a single day.
Sick of the Golf of Mexico, Bam, here hold my beer.
Gulf of America. By the way, I did a little search.
I don't have it in front of me. I'll see
if I can pull it up later. About how many

(11:37):
name geographical name places were changed during the Biden administration,
And like right here in Colorado, what is still Mount
Evans In my name is Mount Blue Sky? Yeah, it'll
never be Mount Blue Sky, just like whatever they call him,
power field that's still mile high. Yeah, it's not going

(11:58):
to change. Or going back to the national level. You
want you want us to open up this this wildlife
preserve for drilling, then we'll do that. Get us at
the stupid Paris climbing the cords sign done that. I
could go on. You know. In fact, I think I've
described at times Trump being kind of like a bull
in a china shop. That's kind of what the first

(12:19):
sixty days in office. We're like. Now that obviously was
low hanging fruit because why well, because it's easier to
pick and takes a little time, doesn't take much energy,
doesn't take much political resources to get those things done,
or at least to put them in in motion. And of
course they're still probably still pending review. And I haven't
researched this, but my guess is, probably what would your

(12:43):
guest be, seventy five ninety sixty five percent of all
the executive orders are probably subject to litigation somewhere someplace,
because they're all pending review from an unelected tyrant in
a black robe somewhere out in the flyover country or
in Washington, d See. Now, fast forward to today. Let's

(13:03):
move out of the good old days into the crappy today.
We're coming up. Well, let's see to uh what Thursday?
Thursday's mid May, and you can already hear the start
of a really sad song being chirped out by all
the boo boo birds, the boo boo birds, and all

(13:24):
the Monday morning armchair quarterbacks. Yeah. I read about them online.
I read them out in the opinion pieces, whether it's
the New York Times or the La Times or the
Wall Street Journal. Not not so much of the Wall Street Journal,
but all of the videos, the influencer content, you know,
because that's where all the you know, the influencer all
you know, they call us influencers. Now too, we've gone

(13:44):
from talent to influencers. And I hate both those TERMINI
both those terms. But anyway, all the armchair quarterbacks who
think it's their job to view the world only with
the critical lens and then apply really shallow thinking to
complex problems that have been blown into such a raging

(14:07):
inferno that the long term future of this republic is
shrouded in in uncertainty. I ran into that yesterday on X.
You can see the exchange on my X timeline at
Michael Brown USA. Somebody that follows me, maybe a listener,
I don't know, but posted a meme. You know, you

(14:28):
need to learn to meme with care. There's my advice
to you. Meme with care about the blue states that
voted for Trump and claimed that those blue states produce
eighty percent of federal tax revenues. And I simply said,
I don't find that believable, and if you'd cite me

(14:52):
the source, I'd like to challenge it. And then I
thought to myself, Man, I really am an idiot, because
do I really think that this guy's or this woman,
whoever it is, is going to cite a source for
a meme that says the Blue States contribute eighty percent
of federal revenues. So I decided to maybe I'll check
it myself. Turns out it's what do you think it is? Dragon?

(15:15):
It's not eighty percent? What do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Do you think I was paying attention to you?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Just I'm sorry, never mind, Okay, now just go back
to whatever you do. Go randumber thirty thirty seven, thirty
seven and a half percent, not eighty percent, thirty seven
and a half percent. So the Blue states that voted
for Donald Trump, you know, contribute thirty seven and a
half percent to our tax revenues. Well anyway, I am, however,

(15:46):
telling people to view the entire set of challenges that
face Trump two point zero as a chess board. We're
not playing checkers, We're playing chess. And I think there
are two primary factors that limit progress towards Trump objectives

(16:07):
in this second term. Now, the old uh, the old objects.
The old speed bumps are same as the new speed bumps,
the same thing that, you know, although they are maybe
using different tactics. The speed bumps come from the same source,

(16:32):
the legislative branch and the judicial branch. And I know
it's set up to be that way, but at some
point you have to recognize that while it's set up
so that, you know, the Article one branch you know,
passes the laws, and the Article two branch, you know,

(16:52):
administers the laws, and then that third branch over there,
those courts are supposed to interpret the laws. Well, the
House and the Senate majorities are practically speaking, too small
and too composed of a bunch of feckless status that
are just wearing a Republican lapel pen to really get

(17:13):
any bills defending our right to survive as a sovereign
nation actually passed somebody casually, maybe as Dragon or somebody
casually mentioned, or maybe it's a text message because they
can't imagine that Dragons is paying attention. That so far, no,
never go back to sleep. So so far, you know,
past one hundred days, they have they have sent Donald

(17:36):
Trump two point zero five pieces of legislation. Five any
amendments or legislation that outlaws birthright citizenship, that maybe bans
mail in voting, or I don't know, it just helps
bills banned the Democrat Party. While you're at it, tryuch.
You know, it's not going to happen. It's just not

(17:57):
going to happen. And any earth shaking bills of that
kind of magnitude will die by the hands of the Republicans. Yes,
the very people who hold the majority who could actually
give us those earth shaking bills are not going to
do it.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
If you imagine someone, you know, we were watching some
series last night, some guy gets stabbed a bunch of times,
and I thought, oh, those are the Republicans stabbing every
kind of major issue that Trump wants to get pass.
Those are Republicans doing the same thing to his to
his agenda.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
If Carol got club seats for twenty five dollars piece,
and they ask, what does that tell you, Well, that
tells me Carol is part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean, he's not wrong, but also, club, how often
are you going to get to go to the club
club seats course field.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, as I said yesterday, if if I had a
friend that came to town and said, hey, I want
to go to a baseball game, I would take them.
I would take them, not because I want to see
the Rockies. I take them because I'm going to enjoy,
you know, some overpriced food and the ambiance, which you
have to admit, no matter how bad the Rockies suck,

(19:22):
the ambiance at Coors Field is absolutely spectacular.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
And it's either fortunate or unfortunate that the stadium and
coursefield itself is just phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, one of the stories that I read yesterday that
was one of the fan groups apparently during I don't
know whether it was Saturday or Sunday's game, but the
fans started chanting in Unison, sell the team, Sell the team.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, I think that was that twenty one zero loss.
I think, yeah, I do recall that.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, sell the team. Okay, So back to this, So
we're a little retrospective because I I just have a
funny feeling that with everything I'm reading about the big
beautiful Bill House ways and Means committee has come out

(20:18):
with their report, which has all the stuff in at
the Trump once and maybe even a little more. But
the cabal wants you to believe that this is all
going smoothly, and I believe behind the scenes it probably
is not going very smoothly, and in fact, one Lisa

(20:38):
Murkowski is inevitably run out of the Senate, probably in
twenty twenty eight, and then she'll re emerge, you know,
on you know MSNB or MSNBC or CNN with a
purple check mark and a post anti mega drivel for
you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars an income, just

(21:01):
like you know, Adam Kinzinger. I would ask at what's
your name Cheney? Liz Cheney, but I haven't really seen
much of Liz change, so maybe she's kind of disappeared.
So MSNBC and all the competition they are notwithstanding anybody
who thinks that we're going to get anything but the
skinniest and least impactful of reforms through this really tiny

(21:25):
House majority and a really weak Senate majority swamp that's
filled with a bunch of numb nuts like Lisa Murkowski
and Mitch McConnell and Susan Collins. You're actually deceding yourself.
With the legislature serving only a limited person of purpose,
such as those already largely in the rear view mirror,

(21:46):
like the Senate confirmations. That leaves the executive branch to
keep the lights on, and it leaves the executive branch
to drive policy changes that can be made giving the
what I perceive to be the increasing irrelevance of the

(22:07):
legislative branch. And it's actually bothers me to say that,
because in our constitutional order absent a legislative branch to
fulfill its obligations, then naturally the presidency of the executive
branch is going to step in and do those things
that actually need to be done. And I don't want

(22:30):
the system to work that way. I want it to
work the way it's supposed to work.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Let me put it this way. Even when our guy
Trump issues good orders, which we like, that's not how
things are supposed to function in a healthy republic. Think
of it like throwing up tons of weight on an exercise,
but you're using bad form and so all the muscles

(22:56):
that you weren't supposed to use to get that weight up,
and you start hurting all the other muscles, and in
fact you probably end up injuring yourself. Is what you do. Well,
that's kind of what we're doing. It's kind of great
that we can lift, it's kind of great that we
can get some things done, but long term, it's going
to be a recipe for ultimately injuring yourself. And as

(23:19):
much as we might really like Trump's executive orders, the
country itself is still in disrepair. And the absence and
the delinquency of the article one legislative branch that forces
us to elect a chief executive who's going to have
to do it all himself, for better or worse, this

(23:44):
means that our national reformation, which I think many people
thought on November five, twenty twenty four, that we were
starting down this road of a national reformation, that we
were going to fix things. And indeed, don't get me wrong,
we are fixing things, and don't get me wrong, I'm
very happy about some of the things that we're fixing.

(24:04):
I'm just thinking in terms of political science and thinking
about the constitutional order, are we really fixing things or
are we, you know, putting the typical band aid on.
So with respect to a national reformation and a national
course correction, as far as elected or appointed officials goes,

(24:30):
it comes down to two lines, to two fronts. It
comes down to the executive actions of President Trump, and
it comes down to the lawful actions of all the
executive branch departments and agencies that report to Trump. Now,
the same playbook that surface in twenty seventeen to prevent

(24:55):
sweeping changes is still in play. It's still there, but
it's just it's got maybe a softer context. And it's
probably a softer context given the failure in the court
of public opinion to bury Trump. When you look at
all the demographic groups that turned out in favor of Trump,

(25:19):
to give him that sweep of the swing states and
to give him that win in the popular vote, then
any sort of you know, objection is a little softened.
In fact, I hadn't planned to use this as an example,
but earlier on the Fox News monitor up here, they

(25:39):
were showing the Democrats all showing up at that detention
facility somewhere near Newark, and I'm thinking, oh, and they
were singing, So what is this nineteen sixty four? Is
this nineteen sixty six? I mean nineteen seventy two. We're
protesting and singing, and we're trying to body slam ice

(26:03):
agents while you're singing, you know, kumbay y'all or something.
It's really weird. And at the same time that they're
singing kumbay y'all and trying to get into and support
people in an ice detention facility who happen to be. Oh,
I don't know. Child molesters, child rapists, human traffickers, drug dealers, murderers,

(26:26):
gang bangers. That's who the Democrats are defending and singing
songs to do. They think that those those really heathen,
horrifically dangerous people in the detention center are sitting there
like drifting off to sleep to the sweet song of
Democrats singing to them outside the chain link fence.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, these people are not there just because they are
here illegally. They are here because they're illegally here as
well as been caught committing crimes.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I don't know. I don't know, because I don't, you know,
I half asked pay attention to most of it anyway,
But tamer and I were watching a I think it
was a movie. I don't I don't think it was
a Netflix or you know, one of the streaming services series.
I think it was a movie. But it involved these

(27:24):
two actors rescuing some children who had been their Their
families were coming across with the mules. The mules when
they get across the border, well, as they get to
the border, they separate the children from mom and dad.
They put the children in a camp, and they take

(27:48):
the fathers and execute them and bury them in a
in a landfill. They take the mothers and what they
sex traffic them in. I think it was Los Angeles,
and I know it was fiction, but it was all over.
I told Tamra, I said, as I watched that, I've
got a pit in my stomach because that's art imitating reality.

(28:14):
That's what's really going on. That all these a holes
that are singing at the detention facilities, that's in essence
what they're supporting. And somehow, you know, MSNBC or CNN.
CNN earlier had another story about it, but you know,
they were all taking it from Oh look at these
marvelous democrats. You're supporting human and sex trafficking. It's really

(28:40):
a bizarre world that we live in right now. But
back to my point that the same playbook that surface
in twenty seventeen stopped the change is still in play.
It's just got a little softer context, That's what I mean.
There's just singing and chanting now. But it does hinge

(29:01):
on the other side. It hinges on judicial corruption to
swat down orders that could effectively alter our future drastically
in a good way. Such as the cancelation of birthright
citizenship or the complete overhaul of our election process. But
so far there are no serious efforts to impugne Trump

(29:23):
in personal or official scandal. Yet that's all been reserved,
of course, for Pete Hagseth or other members of the cabinet.
So this lighter approach is kind of a hedging of bets.
The system doesn't think Trump's going to be replaced by
a figular figure of similar political stature, and with Trump
himself at an all time popularity high, and with the

(29:45):
policies at an all time popularity high, it would be
unwise for them to fom any sort of anti establishment
sentiment by trying to run Trump out of office with
only three years left until the twenty twenty eight election
campaign really begins in earnest. So if, for those of
you who are impatient and wondering, if Trump has gone
over to the dark side because of the momentum slow down,

(30:08):
why don't we do some math on the back of
the napkin.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
So what would the Saudis have for Biden if he
showed up there? Oh, you know, some of those fancy
drinks with the little umbrellas in it? And the red carpet,
and well, I don't know, depends.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's pretty clever, or maybe an ice cream cone. So
I'm not asking anybody to stop viewing the world, or
our leaders, or any of the geopolitical events are going
on around the world from a lens of scrutiny. In fact,
I think we should continue to view everything with scrutiny.

(30:47):
In fact, I think it's our duty to remove biases
and try to look at what's going on objectively. When
you wield criticism with credibility, that requires restraint. It requires
a consideration of all the factors impeding real progress. And
I think it's in that regard that there's nothing more

(31:09):
restrictive than our corrupted courts and a compromised Congress. Most
of us, in the business of espousing our opinions, don't like.
I don't think anybody can say that they like at
least they, if they were honest with themselves, would say
that they like everybody in President's Trump's cabinet, or that

(31:32):
they like all of the appointed officers. I have some
that I like more than others and some that I
kind of I think we could have done better than
what we did, but I don't like it. I don't
think that you know, commentators like it when we we've
got to back off certain positions to set ourselves up

(31:52):
for just a modest leap in progress, you know, two
steps forward, one step back. Hopefully they we'll still get
another two or three steps forward. But we're realists and
we know that success in this political chess game that's
going on sometimes requires sacrificing a bishop to take a rook.

(32:14):
We know that sometimes we've got to lose a little
bit because in the greater scheme of things, it's going
to move us forward. So here in here we are
at the end of the you know, the enlightened period.
The good old days are over, and now we're really

(32:35):
getting down to the number crunching. We really are substantially
better off than we were back on January nineteenth, and
we are still on track when it comes to reshaping
the entire American conversation about the four pillars of national
sovereignty that will determine if this grand experiment either lives

(32:56):
or dies. We've at least gotten off the highway. The
hell that the Democrats, the Marxist and the progressives had
is on at least at the national level, many states
are still on that Colorado Colorado being the prime example
of that. We're still on the highway to hell. But
in terms of the physical, the economic, the institutional, the

(33:19):
military pillars that require this republic to survive, we're still
fairly in good shape. So we ought to give Trump
at least, you know, another inning or two try to
get this stuff done. The point of all of this
is simply to say that everybody that poo poos or

(33:44):
boo boos, whatever you want to phrase it, what Trump's
trying to accomplish, is missing the larger point. You can
still laugh about Orange Man Bad, you can still laugh about,
you know, maybe the way he talks. You can still
laugh about, you know, the big beautiful Bill or whatever.
But this is he's in a position where he has

(34:08):
very weak leadership in both houses of Congress, very narrow majorities,
and yet we still seem to be moving forward. I
think that that's nothing more than just sheer personality coupled
with obviously a weak Congress.
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