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April 4, 2024 26 mins
Julie is out today so TC is in! Jeff is fascinated by heists and we discuss a fun one! 

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Let's begin the show by starting it. You look at us, Hey,
look at us, Look at us. Who would have thought not me?

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Two oh one is our time oneminute past two pet him Central daylight time.
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ninety seven one the freak. Thisis the speakeasy, warmest greetings to one
in all, no matter where youare, no matter how you may be
receiving this radio transmission, we hopethat you will stay with us just as
long as you possibly can today,and we will do our damnest to make

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sure we have a presentation worthy ofsuch devotion. It is Thursday, the
fourth of April, as we emanatelive from the nurturing biosphere of the Mothership.
I would be Mike Reiner, joinedtoday by Jeff Cavanaugh by T.

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C. Fleming. Now, hey, and over there at the helm there
is shoopy sept Dog. I don'tknow, dog, what's up? I
just want to see how you reactto that? Did I react the way
that you'd hope? It is?Beautiful stept Dog and stown dog. Yes,

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we are ready to msh for thenext four hours talking sports, yeah
and all that that implies we gotone of the cool days where we actually
roll right into a Maverick game,or at least Maverick pregame without having to
junkie you. But don't get mewrong, it's quality content. You know.

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I found myself on the way homeon more than one occasion here recently
spending a little TSL on those newsjunkies and yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't understand and the uh concept. I don't understand what they're trying to

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get to. But am I entertainedsomewhat. You know, I think it's
a freak, you know. Ithink it's yeah, Hi, welcome to
the freak. I think it's kindof some sort of hybrid of Jeff's Bucket
of crap and Hollywood swinging, wherethey just read the headlines and then see
what happens. Yep. I thinkthey riff. Yeah, then they riff.
I riff, they be riffing.I fear the rif. I like

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the riff, but I fear theriff. Why do you fear it?
Well, because what if nobody's reallyriffing, you know, and you're just
floundering there and you look up atthe clock, like, for instance,
what a treat for our listeners.We start early today. Normally we get
on about three four oh five.Yeah, normally we're just now coming on.
We got on at one. Let'ssay we don't have a plan for

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our radio segment. We're going tobreak about twenty six. That's twenty five
minutes. Man, it's twenty fiveminutes of danger. You could find out
that you don't have anything and thenthe listener will know, yeah, and
that'll be a problem. We gota lot this segment though. Yeah.
The thing is is that today weare blessed. We actually told Grubes who
had to come in here at ahalf hour early, we're ready to do

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our show at about and we saygo ahead and tell them if they want,
like we got too much stuff andwe're ready if they want to leave,
and we'll do the one thirty segment. I guess groups didn't tell them.
Yeah, they had to get GarySnakes on, so I had to
let that happen. Oh yeah,I mean, and how are you not
gonna write do that? I meanthat drives revenue and ratings, right,

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Gary Snakes snake sponsor, that's right, Yeah, snakes plus fame. Yeah,
I'll get you Snakes. Well,we do cause we're gonna riff,
but with a plan. Because beforethe show we're having some heist talk.
And when I tell you I lovea heist, I dream about heisting probably

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once a week, maybe twice.Heist is my Roman empire. Yeah.
I want to be a part ofone, but I never will because if
the heist doesn't work out, Ican't do prison. I don't think I
can't do prison. So you gocyanide tooth. I would probably go cyanide

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tooth where it's like we get afreeze and you just bite down and Jeff's
gone. But he attempted a heist, so you're on board with the concept
of the heist. Yeah, Iwant so much the consequences. Yeah,
I want to be possible consequences.Yeah. I want to be able to
do a heist but not get introuble. The chance of the trouble will

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deter me from ever heisting. Butif I had the utmost confidence in a
crew and a plan and I waslike, you know what, that one's
gonna work and there's no way we'regetting caught, I might heist if I
knew we weren't going to be Likeif you fell in with some guys who
did this on the regular. Yeah, like if that's how they make their
way through this world. Yeah,Like if I had the confidence I would

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have in you, if you wereGeorge Clooney in Ocean's Eleven, George and
Brad Pitt, if I had confidenceif I was approached by someone and they
made me feel the way I feltlistening to those guys, or like I
believe it was. Mark Wahlberg wasthe leader in the Italian job bro I'm
in, especially the one where weknow where a car is gonna stop and
we're gonna blow out the road anddrop the truck down and heist down.

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Oh my god, what a funheist. I would love to hist like
that, but I fear the repercussions, so I'll never do it. Yeah,
I'm a professional driver currently, that'stechnically true, And I do spend
a ton of my time driving,like you know, I mean regularly eight
hours a day, sometimes ten,Yeah, which is so much more than

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the average person does. It's reallymore than the average person does anything for
an extended stretch of time. AndI'm a strong believer that the more practice
you do at something, the betteryou are at it, and the kind
of driving. I'm doing uber driving. It's not the exact same as tyst
driving, right, this's not wheelmanstuff, but it is sharpening the instincts

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you need. You know, it'sa lot of just like your spatial reasoning
being well developed, as developed asyou can. You know, I've got
a pretty good timed out, youknow what, based on how much space
I have, what kind of maneuversI'm going to be allowed to make,
and so it's kind of easy toimagine yourself taking the I mean it's a

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few steps away, but you canimagine yourself at least starting down that road.
I think I would be excellent asa getaway driver. So you think
that the skills that you have currently, you could also operate said skills at
the same level at like one anda half or one point seventy five X

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speed. I'm positive. Okay,you wouldn't Rashi Rice the whole thing.
No, okay, No, thatwas my primary objection to that story.
Just sloppy work. Yeah. Yeah, I was a pretty aggressive driver before
I started all this, And youguys are thinking, you guys are saying,
you know, well, he's gotto be a cautious driver. He's
got people in the car. Correct, Otherwise your uber driver You're rating wouldn't

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be very high. You've forgotten abouthalf the driving I'm doing. What do
you mean the pickup driving pickup?When I'm driving you there? Okay?
So you do no one in thecar. Okay, you do have some
time and I can get paid alittle more if you get there quick,
if I get there quicker. Soare you taking some chances? So you

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do? So you're not a versetwo risky driving maneuvers. I love risky
driving maneuvers. You shouldn't love ifyou are a victim of a risky driving
maneuver two one four, eight,one seven all three. So get you
to Franklin Frankel and then they willget a nice hefty settlement from TC.
It's been a long time since I'vebeen in an accident. You know what.
I had a small fender bender thatwas my fault, and it was

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with a listener, like I gota what. I got out of the
car and he was like DC,you know, I was just listening to
you guys. Man. That probablyhelped you though he didn't pursue anything,
so I'm extremely grateful. Yeah,no, he was the best. Do
you want to thank him. Yes, I do thank your name. I
don't want to say it publicly,but I definitely remember it. His first

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name would give him away to thegeneral population. Huh, he's famous.
Yeah, carry no, Okay,but I'm not answering any more questions.
Okay, Well, we had aheist. Was it Emmitt Smith? Yeah,
that was it. It was EmmittSmith, Dexter Cokeley. Oh,
I can see it being Dexter.I've had run ins with Emmitt Smith,

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but he was driving a golf cart, not a car. I think that.
No, here's what goes on inmy brain when you said the words
golf cart. I went back towhat you said about the amount of hours
you spent driving and how it makesyou better at it these golf carts.
I now spend a lot of timeat the golf ranch in Richardson with my

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guy Dano, and boy, we'regetting better. But I have put a
lot of hours into this sport.I don't feel like it always equates to
progress project linear. You could beyou know, you could just try at
it for a while and it's sortof but then you'll have a big jump
up. Yeah. The lesson I'velearned is it's a consistency thing, actually,

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because you will forget golf things you'velearned. If you don't be doing
them, you gotta do them.But no one cares. Here's heist talk,
yes, yes, let's talk aboutthe heist at hand. Somebody pulled
off a high east on Easter Sundayand walked away with thirty million dollars.
Now I have an abbreviated version ofthis story. I bet TC's gonna add

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deeds, but I'm gonna lay outthe basics. Let's do it. So
we currently have a hunt. We'reon a hunt for thieves who slipped in
and out of a money storage facilityundetected in the Los Angeles area. Is
the way it's written on what I'mreading, a money storage facility. That
was my reaction. Isn't that calleda bank? That's what I thought.

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Okay, But anyway, the moneywas taken from a facility that handles cash
for businesses across southern California. Investigatorsbelieve the burglary crew was experienced and knew
the exact vault the money was storedin. The robbers were able to get
into the building through the roof,make it into the vault without tripping the
alarm system, no signs of abreak in outside of the vault. One

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of the largest heists in LA's historyso far. No suspects, LAPD being
helped by the FBI. They gotnothing, thirty million clean. It's on
the facility business. It's a gardaworld like you've seen garda Nope, yes,
do you know what a money storagefacility? It's like for ATMs,

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like they supply ATMs. All right, truck Okay, so it's ax truck.
What else do you get at atI don't know, maybe equipment or
something like that. No, theyput the cash into ATMs. So that's
why they got a where they keepYeah. Yeah, yeah, there's just
a warehouse of cash and everyone knowsit. Well, that's the thing.

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It's not the case that everyone knowsit. The story that you're reading was
being cag about the details because andthis is where I think the big vulnerability
as far as these guys go,is that it is not publicly available all
the information about this. It's actuallyonly known by a very small group of
people. Couldn't I just follow themoney truck like they're at the ATM,

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and then where do they go?Afterwards, I could just see where they
go. I'm just like, where'sthat that going? They have more layers
of security than that, Like whatthey can't make the truck disappear. I
mean they could back to the house. Well, every time they're driving the
truck to the facility, they couldblow out the road beneath it, drop
down to a lower road. Job, right, you'd be could off.

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But I feel like people do weundetected? We'd have reports. Man,
would you know one of those vehiclesif you see it, well, you
know the money trucks. Yeah right, it says garda real big on the
side, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and the guy drives with a sawed
off shotgun in his right hand,left hand on the wheel. He's like,
don't try mem Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And so I feel like you're

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just following back, but you're sayinginside job Yeah. It just like you
said, they knew where to gowith the vault. Uh. They broke
it so clean that no one discoveredit. Did you already say this?
Until they came to came into workthe following Monday? Okay, that's oh
did they do it on it wason Sunday? Yeah, Sunday. So

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you know, to know everything's soclean that you didn't trip a single alarm.
They still they're saying they don't knowhow The authorities are saying that they
don't know how the burglars did nottrip any of the alarms. This all
feels to me like they've probably gota pretty small list that they're working from
of people who would have all thatinformation. Well for now, they got

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away clean, and you know,it excites me. I would anticipate that
the burglars are aware that it's notthat long a list, and maybe they
have a counter move. You know, I'm not saying that this story is
over. I mean, that's thething I'd be focusing on if I were
the authorities. The counter move isif there's no evidence, you just go
oh no, yeah, yeah,not me, Yeah cool. But in

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the town, whenever they're looking athow the communication the first bank heist,
they do, Yeah, they're lookingat how the communications got cut and it
was from the telephone company, andthey look to see who at the telephone
company had a vacation day that day, Okay, and it's a member of
the crew. Yeah, Like,if you're the one that's tied in there,
just know that anything other than wordof mouth from you to someone is

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going to be a problem, whichis why my role on the heist would
be the here's how look guys,hold on, what about? That would
be My role would be what about? Yeah, it's like, okay,
we got the plan, now here'show you're gonna get caught. And they're
like, no, no, no, we're gonna do this, and I'd
be like, what about yeah,and that'd be my job. I'd be
what about You'd be the what about? God, that would be what about
I'd make sure that we covered everything. So the what about that you should

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have raised here is what about them? What about them? This pretty small
list of guys that know where thefacility is and how to get into it,
and hopefully someone in the crew answeredthat question. We'll see. I
guess, yeah, we'll find out. I guess hypothetically, I'm supposed to
be on the side of it's badif thirty million dollars gets stolen, but
no, this we all process thesethings, is maybe I could get me

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a little bit of that thirty milione day. Well yeah, and I
think you have to. There's differentlevels to the heist, Like if your
heist I guess didn't really qualifies itas a heist. But if your heist
involved breaking into my house, notcool, right, not cool? Even
if it's the bank's money. Right, anything that is insured, I don't

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care. Yeah take it. Yeah. Now, if you held somebody gunpoint
to do it, bam, trauma. Not cool. Go f yourself.
But if you're going into a facility, I didn't with insurance that there is
no one in there that is goingto ruin their day and potentially their brain
for life. Kick ass, bro, This is clean and easy. Yeah,

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that's a good job. Can Igive you another angle I've been thinking
about on this. Yeah. Soa couple months back, there were two
guys driving an eighteen wheeler I believe, and one of they pull on Yeah
yeah, but there's two guys inthe cap and one of them said I'm
hungry, so they pulled off toI think it was a flying Jay things

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of this nature. Flying Jay's notbad and it's a gas station, trucks
truck stop, Okay, Yeah,it's like a better BUCkies. Like,
you don't have seven thousand families there, you just have six truckers. It's
not as good as buckets. Itdoesn't as good as buckets. BUCkies is
awful, it's the worst. Yeah, is great. But do you want
to take information from someone who saysthings like that, I want a heist
book? It calls them into question. I want to do a buz of

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Trust me when I say BUCkies betterthan flying Jay I do. We could
do a heist on a gas stationand get all the gas and we could
go sell Petro. It's pricey howI don't know. Order to get underground
somehow? Or you fill barrels withPetro and Charlie day talk scheme? Are
you coming up? What about?Guy hasn't started on it yet? That's

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the beginning. I have a question. Is this written basketball? We're watching?
No? You stay on the dothat stay? Where's the power button?
We don't know. We don't careabout Lester and Bristol. So it
does appear to basketball. Answer thequestion, Yes, it's basketball. I

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didn't know. But what remote turns? Boy? They got an unathletic bald
white guy turned it off? Nomore TV? All right, back on
the heights. So these two guys, one of the one of them is
driving, one of them is apassenger. Yeah, hange guy and drive
guy and one of them says.One of them says, I'm hungry,
say pull off to a flying jay. The other one goes to sleep in

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the cab while the other one's eatingwhile the guy who's hungry is eating his
meal. The horse's name is Friday. I don't know what that means.
I feel like you're setting up fora riddle. Yeah, yeah, uh.
And while they're indisposed, I don'tI think it's one hundred million in

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jewels goes missing from the back ofthe eighteen wheelers had a hundred million in
the truck. It was something alongwith no, not not that jewels.
I'm sorry. Yes, one hundredmillion in jewels and value were taken from
the back of the truck. Didthey know they had a hundred million in
there? Like, we don't getto nap. We got a hundred million,
No matter what, you gotta nap. You don't nap with one hundred

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million. You go pull it,you go old school. This is I'm
going to this far. And thena swap happens. In a swap,
we are not sleeping during the onehundred million moves. I'm gonna bet that
he was not authorized to sleep.But much like an overnight board ops,
they're not there. They don't knowwhat you do. Yeah, a lot
of times you can get away withit. Yeah you oh yeah. Back

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in my day, we missed somelegal ideas at the top of hours when
I was sleeping. No, Inever missed anything. I was. I
was good about setting an alarm,waking up on time I did the job.
I was drunk. Okay, wellthat's worse. Yeah, I was
fully sober, and during the timewere I actually had to do something,
I was focused on the task.I wouldn't That's why they were like,

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what if we just I guess let'sjust give him a mic instead for the
forty minut and it's in between there. Yeah, that was my time.
Yeah, I was spending its sleeping. Yeah uh yeah. So this guy
probably also wasn't authorized to sleep,but a lot of people aren't authorized to
sleep too, And so a hundredmillion dollars worth of jewels and valuables went
missing, all while one guy wasinside the Flying Jay and one guy was

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napping. And there's a similar amountof confusion. How big are these about
how they got in jewels? Likeyou had to do that quick? If
he was just going in for someten d's and a doctor pepper. They
probably were in weight less than whatJulie wears, if it's if it's a
valuable jewel, weigh less than whatJulie was. Okay, okay, one

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hundred million in jewels could just Iguess be a handful. Huh yeah,
oh yeah, big time. Andthey were an eighteen wheeler. Uh huh.
I take a while to find him. If they're scattered around because it's
a big probably all in one place, okay, a little baggy, probably
a fault the guys safe. Ohthey're not just going to keep them.
I'm scattered here hither and yon throughoutthe truck. Do you think that if

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we obtained a safe that had stuffin it that you could figure all that
out, like just be like,look, I'm gonna run to Low's or
home depot and we're gonna get inthis sucker. Or do you think you
would struggle if you have access tothe safe and there's no time pressure.
Yeah, one hundred percent. Icould crack that safe atm You probably could
too, you think so whohoa,whoa, whoa, let's back up just

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a smidge. But I bet so, because that was you claiming that you're
better than me cracking open a safelike you said you could, and what
probably wasn't I wasn't trying to.I'm I didn't want to speak for you
on your confidence level. I thinkwe have about the same chance of it,
okay, but but I believe inmyself, and that's what gives me
an edge. If you're saying youbelieve in yourself too, then I'd say

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we're even. I think I've gota shot at it, just because I've
seen enough movies I visualize I manifestI open that safe. Yeah, y,
what's the first thing you would do? Go on Google? Let's see.
I would go different route. Hewould get it open first, because
I would get a stethoscope and justfeel like I've seen enough movies that I
would just slap that little thing onthere and start turning it and feel like

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it's going to warn me when I'vehit the right number. See, I
think that's right. But I betthere's some steps on Google I could find
that maybe refine that process a littlemore. If you didn't have a stethoscope,
well, then I would start thinkingabout how am I going to open
the sucker? In terms of likeI would go into home Depot or Low's
and eventually I would go to theTC right, which is your google how
to crack a safe like physically?But first I would probably just walk into

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a hardware store and have fun andjust be like, what do I want
to hit it with? Yeah?But so this jewelry heist, oh happened
not far at all from where thiscash heist happened. And I think probably

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this is Danny Ocean and his eleven. It's two different groups, but it's
close enough that it could be onethat maybe there's one crew out there.
This crew is good. Yeah,I wonder what was it? It wasn't
very good? Again again, giveanother shot. This crew is good.

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I didn't hear the respect it.What's the ideal number of people in respect
the attempt trying? As a guywho's done a lot of heist research,
I can tell you the biggest dangerof heist is that as soon as heist
is done, whatever that dollar amountis, it's enough that everybody in that

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crew starts thinking, you know,if we had to give out one less
share and so now people start gettingcapped on the scene. That's why eleven's
too many. Yeah, eleven isway too many. Eleven's way too many
four tops for a heist. Thefour tops, I mean, I four
tops might do heists alive. Mycanoo atle bit all right, my top

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thing about heist. Whenever I'm thinkingabout hest, I'm just thinking about the
movie Heat, So I would thinkthat you want I mean, it's four
of the main guys. Then theydo have to bring in Wayne grow I've
seen the movie multiple times because Iknow de Niro and Paccino sit across from
each other to dining room thing,and then there's the weird guy. You
know that really happened. Those twosat across from each other at a table.
Yeah, they're in the movie together. They shut the scene there.

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No, that's not what I mean. You mean, Michael Man, the
director of the movie, is basingit on. It wasn't in Los Angeles.
In Chicago, he knew, well, I believe both sides of there
was a robber and a police officerand they did have a meeting at a
coffee shop where they sat across fromone another and said, I respect what

(24:42):
you're doing, but if I haveto kill you, I won't think about
it for one second. And thatwas the bad guy who said that or
the good guy, I believe,so I was it the copp or the
Robber? Yeah, I mean theyboth mutually say it. Agree in the
movie, Well who you do actuallyverbalizes it? I think seen this movie.

(25:02):
I actually know, but it's beeneons. It is both right,
but it's the they both say it, but not cop that's like, oh
okay, I'll put you down.Yeah, yeah, you know, but
then he doesn't end up getting putdown. Yeah. Not to spoil the
end of Heat, I don't.I've seen that at least ten times,
but none of them in the lastfive years. And I couldn't tell you
anything about it other than run itback. There's a host and that I

(25:22):
think Paccino's trying to solve it,and de Niro's the robber. I remember
thinking it was really good. It'sso good, but I'm probably my favorite
movie. I bet it's ten orfifteen years since I've seen it. What
are you guys doing tomorrow? Radio? Once that's done, you come on
over, we'll host the screening.We'll just go watch Heist at TC's Yeah,

(25:42):
Heat, Heat Heist, the heistof the Heat. The heist is
a different movie, and I alwaysget you want to have a heist day.
We could watch Heat and then theItalian Job and the Notions eleven.
That would be fun. I'd liketo be the computer nerd guy. I
always forget actor names, but Ithink he ended up being in the Marvel

(26:02):
stuff. He had to do thepinch, the pinch that made the power
go out. Don Cheatle, Yeah, I love Don Chetle. Yeah.
I love Don Chetle, especially inhis little thing with Kevin Hart where he
calls him old. Yeah, that'sfunny. So welcome to our radio show
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