April 20, 2022 • 29 mins
Two out of this world contestants face off to see who knows more about these STAR MEN! Bowie and Galileo involve everyone in a band naming dispute!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi Helli yah, hi Bee, Why are you so far away?
I wanted to use this telescope after reading about Galileo.
He's one of the pioneers of space exploration and one
of our famous figures today that you chose that instead
of the microphone, after also reading about David Bowie, our
other subject for today's episode. Yes, I would even call
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the distance between us now a real space auditing. Okay,
I'm guessing that's the first of many puns you've got
up your sleeve today. Well, yeah, calling it out like
that really puts me under pressure. But yeah, I got
a lot. Well, you're not the only one who can
play that pun song. Game, let's dance, Eric, play us
in here you go. What do you think you know
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about the room? The game is to get a Jane
buckle up your brain because it's time to play podcast
because it's live from tong Valan or so called so
Cow Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was the History quiz
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show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes
and podcast glory. I'm b your announcer who in French
gets to say just sweet Bee. And here's your host.
He's the e bike of the airwaves. It's Elliott Caitlin.
Thank you be I didn't know you knew my childhood nickname,
and welcome everyone to the Who Was Podcast. This show
is like Jeopardy, only the surprise guests, silly games, and
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more televisions. On set, our contestants were sent Who Was
books about two great figures from history. Now they're here
to show off their knowledge and hopes of winning fantastic prizes.
Today we're talking about star men waiting in the sky
as we get to know the scientist Galileo and the
rock star David Bowie. But before we get to know them,
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let's get to know our contestants. First up, we have
Elliott Elliott. Please introduce yourself. I I'm Elliott Elliot. Do
you have a fun fact you want to share with everybody? Um?
I can juggle on a unicycle. WHOA. I don't know
if that's one fun fact or two. That might be
too much fun. It's maybe the funnest fact I've ever heard.
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That's the most fun I've ever heard. Pact into one
fact in my life and with us today we also
have Tazz Tas. Please introduce yourself. Hello, I'm taz Um
I use them him he him pronounced great well. Welcome
Taz and welcome Elliott. We are so excited to have
you both on the show. Thank you both, Yes, and
thank you to Eric our musician providing that lovely meet
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the contestants music and all the music on the show today.
So that's who is. Now let's find out who was
Galileo with four fast facts. Groundbreaking mathematician and astronomer. He's
the Michael Jordans of science. Developed the nautical telescope to
see into the far reaches of space in sixteen o nine,
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discovered the four moons of Jupiter. Was placed under house
arrest in sixteen thirty three by the Catholic Church for
stating that the Earth went around the Sun. Galileo made
more contributions to astronomy than any other single individual, not
to mention his contributions to physics and mathematics. Yeah, and
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his handsome looks. Galileo Gali, Galileo, Galileu b B. It's
it's Galilee Galilee Galileu. No, No, it's no, you switch
it around, you you change the Galileo Galilee. No, that's again,
you're switching it too much. Galileo DiCaprio, I described by
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Galileo's take a share situation. Oh, Galileo, okay, cool, certainly
makes it a lot easier, Galileo, thank you so much
for joining us, and thanks to the who was app
forgetting you here? Was you want to make someone in
the past all indeed that it is my pleasure. Spending
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the last years of your life under house arrest makes
you grateful for every interaction. Well, we love it. If
you could host our next game. It's called true or false?
True or false? Is false? Is it false? Or is
the true? Is the truth that it has false? Is
it false that it was true? Or true? True or false?
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I love that song. It's as confusing as it is wonderful.
Galileo is going to ask our contestants a question, and
they're gonna let us know if it's true or false.
This first one is for Elliott. Take it away, Gali, Okay?
True or false. The time period in which I was
born in Italy, it was referred to as the crusade
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for people who are on a crusade or a mission
to make new developments in art and science. False. That's right,
it's false. He was born during the Renaissance. Or rebirth
because discovery was in the air. Other famous figures from
this time include Michael Angelo and Shakespeare. The next question
is fortas Galileo. Take it away. Well, when I was
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enrolled at the University of Pizza, my nickname was the
Puppe because I was such a teacher's pan. False. Correct,
false Again. Get's nickname was the Wrangler because he would
quarrel with professors and question everything in lengthy debate before
he eventually got expelled from school. Also, I've got to
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assume he's wearing jeans, hence the name. Next question goes
to Elliott. People call me the father of modern science
because I rigorously tested out my theories before presenting them
in the system I developed called the scientific method that
is still used today. True. That's right, it's true. Before Galleo,
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scientists basically just made a lot of claims about the
world without actually testing them out. Galileo basically made a
career of saying um, actually to Aristotle, who had many
untested theories, like when Aristotle said that eels generated from mud.
We know that's not true, right or is it not?
That sounds now that I think it might be true.
I'm very frightened about rainy days. Okay, the next question
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is for tas. Okay, Dad's listen closely. After I discovered
the hour moons of Jupiter, I originally named them but
cuff blossom, bubbos and false. That is also false. Correct.
I actually named them after the members of the Media
family in the hopes that the Medici's would be his
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sponsor so that he could go on to do more research,
which is exactly what happened. It worked out great, and
eventually it didn't work out so great, but for a
while it worked out great, and thus concludes true or
false true true true false. Excellent job both of you.
You both did great. But let's hear that numerically by
checking in with producer Jane with the score. Well, the
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numbers add up Elliott and Taz and Elliott are in
a tie too. Two. It's a great time number. It's
a great thing to wear when you're doing ballet to too,
So thank you very much, Jane. Actually I thought it
was how do you how do you say so random
that you bet David Bowie and I together because we
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up here in the afterlife we have a band. Really,
because if it wouldn't be too much to ask. Would
you love to hear what we've been working on? Dude Bowie?
Who was that? You want to read someone in the past. Hello,
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it's me pop byke On David Bowie. Whoa, whoa. Okay,
this is amazing. I'm a huge David Bowie's fan. So um,
please don't let us stop you let us hear this song.
That's okay a podcast people, please put your hands together
for the mute tical stylings of Gallo part of the SPA.
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I think you mean the musical stylings of Bowlilo. It's
Gallolo might have studed, Yes, it's bowl Lo. It sounds
like you're having a little trouble agreeing on a band name.
We've been having trouble agreeing on almost everything, to be honest.
Every let's see we argue a lap. But that's just
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what happens when you get to pop music. I counts
like us in a room together, you know. Of course,
it also means we haven't finished writing any songs. We
started writing about one about stowing away on the certain
new space telescope that got launched a few months back.
Remember that one. We're having adventures and out of space.
Yeah see, but no you know we haven't been able
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to finish a single verse. Well, maybe this is just
coming to me off the dome. Maybe it has An
Elliott can help you with that. Um, they're really smart
and easy to get along with. You know, that's a
great idea. I mean, it's it's it's no lot of pendulums.
That was mine. But you're not pretty good? What do
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you think, Tsan Elliott? Do you want to help David
Bowie and Galio finish their song? Sure? All right, that's
you'll you'll get two points on the back end, okay,
and the way we go we agreed. Um. All right,
so I'll tell you what. I'll start playing, and then
when we get to a place that needs a suggestion
or like a word to fill in, your kids chime in.
All right. So here the fathers are on the telescope
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to the stars. I don't know when we'll get back.
So it's a good thing we brought a snack. Um. Actually,
this is where we got hung up. What kind of
snacks are we were bringing with us? And remember it
has to be something we can eat in space or
a new thing? Yeah yeah, yeah, no, Sue, what do
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you guys think he did do? You have any snacks
we could bring up into space. Um, I guess vinegar ships. Yes, wow,
that's really good. Yeah, love love. So we got some crisps, right,
some solid crisps, and Elliott, what would you like? I
don't know. I guess they like peanuts, except I guess
peanuts has like a common allergy thing. So that's true.
We have to ask all the astronauts, all the crew
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if they were allergic to peanuts. That's very considerate of
you to not bring it just in case gal Leo
and David Bowie and Taz were allergic. That's very considerate. Yeah, legum,
it's go on with the track, all right, I think
I've got all right need eating salting, vinegar, crisp, and
peanuts if you're not allergic. As we passed by moons,
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big dippers that look like schools, hoping that we just
might see actually, yeah, we want to see some stuff.
You know, we're in space, right, we're not boring. Uh so,
so what what do you think we'll see in space?
What do you want to see in space? I mean,
I I will answer this before I'll give Taz an
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Elliott a moment to think. I want to see some
space trash out there. I want to see some space garbage.
I want to see a floating but I want to
see what it is. Um. I'm just very interested in that, tas, Elliott,
what are you hoping that you would see if you
were in space? Extra terrestrials, more terrestrials? Yes, no, no,
I think Mr Bowie, I think I think tas means
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not more not more terrestrials would have extra terrestrials like aliens,
terrestrials that are a bit too much the extra. No, no,
not not ones that are too terrestrial. That's that I
think your miss Let's uh, tas. Why did you just
say aliens? Okay? Alien? Ironic that David Bowie, who wrote
so many songs about space travel and and people from
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outer spaces, is having trouble grasping the concept of aliens
from space. Well either way, Elliott, with one t what
would you like to see in the space exploration? I
don't know, but maybe you wrote this song called space
Oddity and it was about Major m and got austin space.
If you should go try to find Major Tom. I
mean you kind of messed up big there, you know,
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getting him aust in space. You should really try to
find Major Tom. Thank you for calling that back finally.
M hm, this is it's your reconciliation tour. You can.
It does seem like the least that David Bowie could
do is to rescue that that astronaut that we've got
lost in space. Yeah, this sounds perfect for folding into
the song. All right, here we go hoping that we
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just might see terrestrials extra o regularly and finally reunite
with Major Tom. Oh, the wonders of space coming into view,
the story of a star bound crew. As the Earth
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goes round the Sun, we cannot say that. We have
to say the Sun goes around there, Gali man, Uh,
you know the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth. It's
the other way around. Yeah, Galileo knows that, but the
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Pope says, are not allowed to see that. The same
thing happens, y'all hear this right. It's every time we
tried to write a kill a tune and we get
to some spot that you said the Pope won't let
you sing, Okay, Galileo and David Bowie, I think there's, uh,
there's bigger problems with the band than Arcadestan is gonna
really fix right now. But thank you Elliott, thank you
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Tas for helping them with the song. Maybe someday they'll
be able to figure out a way that they can
express themselves without getting into trouble from the Pope. Yeah,
I have faith for Galli Galli LOI but bow bow
bowl Lalo bowe lao norder DiCaprio. Oh mama Mia, Oh sorry, Scoozy,
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I must be off. I am late from my lunch
of chicken fingers with Shakespeare. Oh oh so sorry, we're
saying top of the morning. Okay, thanks to these beautiful contestants,
and thanks again to the who was by Galileo Glatzi
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Galileo a river dergy. Hey, David, while you're here, do
you think you could stick around to help us with
our next game. I've got some time before our next
bol Leo practice, which I'll delay as long as possible.
Now it's Galio, I thought had left you know what.
Let's say, take as long as you need for obvious reasons.
Shakespeare by Okay, let's let's work this out. We'll be
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back with more after this quick break. Eric, can you
please play us some Italian music? Pass the pasta Hey,
who Was Her? I want to make a shout out
to your own favorite person history, famous or unfamous. Do
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Would you like to tell us your craziest dream? I
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memo at the who Was Podcast at gmail dot com.
Welcome back to the Whola Was Podcast. We're finding out
more about David Bowie and Galileo today and our Starman episode.
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When we last left off, Elliott had two points in
Tesz had two points. And now back to your host,
Elliot Kalin. Thank you be not the contestant Elliott. That's
a different Elliott. We just happened to have the same
amazing name. And thank you to our special guest David
Bowie for sticking around through the break pleasure. So let's
get to know more about this David Bowie character with
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four fast facts. Born David Robert Jones in in England,
I've sold over a million albums in my career, winner
of a two thousand six Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award, launched
my own internet service provider called Bowie Netty. I'm actually
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using Bowiette right now to get on the internet slow
in my end. That's why it's really cool if you're wondering. Now,
let's get right into our next game. B Sides. Now,
back before we were all streaming music, we had record
albums which have two sides. The A side usually had
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the hit song on it, and the B side was
another song that was less well known. Now we found
some of David's unrecorded lyrics to songs he was writing.
Who sold my unfinished catslog? I left a post it
note on the top of that lot saying top secret.
No one was supposed to touch that. All right, we'll
take it from me, David Bowie. Post it notes are
not legally binding, that is for sure. And so we're
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gonna continue with the game. Now. In this game, you're
gonna listen to the lyrics and tell us what he
was writing about for one point each. And this is
a multiple choice game, so we'll be offering you choices
of options and you'll choose the one you think is best.
Tas this first song is for you, okay ta, I'm
just a character from David Bowie's brain, singing about space
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and spiders, with my stomm and refrain. Now was David
Bowie singing about a character he created called a silly
Zardust be Ziggy Stardust or see Zoey Deschanel. B. That's right.
The answer is be Zeky Sardust is a character David
transformed himself into while performing. The next question is for Elliott.
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Major Tom was alone and scared, but until this event
no one much cared. Okay, Now what big event is
David Bowie talking about that affected Major Tom? Is it
a the fall of the Berlin Wall? Be the Apollo
eleven moon landing or see the live Aid concert. B.
That's right, it's yeah. Don't teach your answer, no, it
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was right. Okay Dad, don't noverthink yourself. Come on, first answer,
best answer. The answer is the Apollo moon landing and
the song is called Space Oddity. It was inspired by
a very famous movie, one of my favorites personally called
two thousand one a Space Odyssey, and David used the
image of an astronaut to tap into his feelings of
loneliness and to connect with people all over the world
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and maybe other worlds. Who knows. Next song is for
Taz Go ahead, dB. The fame was too much. Oh
what a pity, So I left the spotlight and camped
out in this city. Okay, which city is David talking about?
Is it a Edinburgh, Scotland, B Berlin, Germany or see
Labyrinth Chile. Huh. I'm not sure about this one, so
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I'm just gonna go with B. That's right. The answer
is B. Berlin is also where he wrote his hit
song Heroes. And for the record, Labyrinth Chile is not
a real place, so don't try to go there. You'll
get lost, hence the name. It's not real. The next
question is for Elliott, a great first date can be
fancy as can be, or make it really special and
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just have tea. What for state is David talking about here?
A his first time sitting down with his friend John Lennon,
be his first date with future wife came on, or
see his first date with the Elephant Man. Uh B,
that's right. The answers be David didn't Dave the Elephant Man.
He portrayed him on Broadway, once again shattering expectations people
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had about him being just a musician. So that's the
end of B sides. Excellent round for both of you,
and let's check in with producer Jane for the Discus
Gus Gus scores? Did that work? I liked it? Yes, Elliott,
I don't mind telling you that we are once again
head to head. The score is tied with TAZ four
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helly four four for four or four. It's a great
beat and also a great score. Well, great working, and
thanks so much for your help on the song. And uh,
this has been fantastic, but I must be on my way.
Thanks for having me and thanks again. Who was that? Who? Boy? Wow?
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What a fun exciting episode this has been with both
David Bowie and Galileo. Oh, I know, I am such
a fan of them both. I wish I could just
have like a dance break where we all jam out
to David Bowie songs. Well, you know what, I encourage
our listeners to do just that. Now while we take
a short break, go ahead, google some David Bowie hits.
Get dancing. We'll be back with the scores end our
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final game right after this, Eric, play us some dance
music please five six, seven eight. We're back on the
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Whose podcast today we're learning all about who was David
Bowie and who was Galileo? When we last left off
Elliott had four points and Tess had four points. And
now here's your host, Elliott Klin. Thank you be for
pronouncing the second T in my name. Most people forget to.
I appreciate it. Now it's time for our final game,
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Converge of Greatness. Is there a more inspiring piece of
music than that? Answer? No? And this multiple choice game
be will read questions where are two historical figures over lamp?
And because we'recovering two times the history, this game is
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worth two points for each question that's right two times
the history, two times the points. Pick the best option
as your answer, Elliott, this first question is for you.
Take it away, be alright. Both Galileo and Bowie come
from musical families. Bowie Stanley was one of the first
in their neighborhood to own a record player, but Galileo's
father was one of the first musicians to do this.
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Is it A create notes and add them to the scale, B,
use a voice modulator or see sing in a giant
snail costume and make people guess his idea to T
A and C sounds a little weird. The answer is
A and C. To be fairisee does sound a little weird. Yeah,
it does sound a little weird. Hugely successful show though,
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so people like weird stuff, I guess. But the answer
is a. Galileo followed in his father's footsteps when he
stepped outside the norms and questions the old ways of thinking.
Galileo's father wrote a book on music theory that angered people,
not enough to put him under house arrest. That was
for his son to do, and not enough I guess
for people to put him in a snail costume. Okay,
next question is for Tad's Bowie and Galileo were both
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known for their flamboyant style of dress. Bowie went more
towards sparkles and vibrant colors, but Galileo's form of flamboyant
dressing meant he a were powdered wigs. Be invented a
new type of pants that was half shorts and half pants,
called cool lots or coolat Doza, as they might say.
An Italian or ce rejected the long floy robes that
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university professors of his time were supposed to wear. See
that's right, The answer is cee. Although Galileo would have
looks nice in those cool logs, He's got great calves
ashamed to hide them under that snail costume. Next question
is for Elliott. Galileo and Bowie didn't do all their
work alone. They had some very powerful supporters. For Galileo
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that meant the Medici family. But which one of the
following people is someone who helped Bowie achieve his musical goals?
A Marina Gamba, B Brian Eno or see Hunky Dory.
Um B, that's right, The answer is B record producer
Brian Eno. Marina Gambo was the name of Galileo's longtime
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romantic partner, and Hunky Dory is not a person, no
matter what the Real Housewives thinks. Okay, this last question
is for Taz. Go ahead, be alright. Bowie is saying
about a star man and Galileo discovered the man in
the moon was actually this is it a lunar mountains
and craters? Be left over to are you from asteroids
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or see mountains of snow from lunar avalanches? B. I'm
so sorry. The answer is A. It's lunar mountains and craters.
But that's a good guest. Aristotle claimed the moon was smooth,
and Galileo once again proved him wrong. Take that Aristotle,
stay down your burnt. That sound means right at the
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end of that game and the end of the show. Now,
while we wait for Jane to tell you the points,
I'd love to hear from our contestants. Is there anything
that you learned about David Bowie or Galileo preparing for
the game that really surprised you or stuck out to you,
something that you really remember, you found really interesting? Tes
what about you? Is there anything that you learned that
really stuck with you? Um I learned a lot about
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David Bowie, but um I had done studies on Galileo already.
Is there something that wasn't covered in the book about
Galileo that you would wanna share with us, like another
fun fact that maybe we don't know about Galileo. Well, actually,
on the internet they said that he died um at
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um seventy seven, but in the book it said he
died at seventy eight. Looks like we've got a history's
mystery on our hand. Yeah, we gotta talk. We gotta
double check with the good people who was book series
and figure that out. Well, it's okay if the book
is a little off. It is written by a penguin, right, Yes, exactly.
You put enough penguins in a room with the typewriters
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and you'll get it. Who was book for sure? So, Elliott,
is there anything about David Bowie or Galileo that really
stuck out to you or that you really remembered were
surprised by. I'd say for David Bowie, I thought it
was super cool how he like really didn't care what
other people thought. He was just like really, you know,
I thought it was really cool with like the too
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cover photos, you know, for that album, he like did
that one cover photo and that really showed like who
he was. I mean, it's it's too bad that like
the the US like made it some really bad picture
of a cowboy, but whatever, But yeah, I thought that
was just really cool. Yeah, that he was willing to
go out there and really express himself. Yeah, is there
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something about his music is great? But also just giving
other people permission to be themselves by being out there
being himself is just such a wonderful achievement and contribution.
So that's a great message take from it. Thank you both,
and now for the big moment, Jane, please announce our winner. Well,
Elliott and b I don't mind telling you that it
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was neck and neck for a long while. Tas ended
up with six points, but Eli launched themselves into the
stratosphere with eight points. Elliyot is our winner. Elliott, great job, Tas,
Great job to you both played a fantastic game. Now
Elliott as our winner. You have ten seconds for shoutouts.
Who would you like to thank? Anyone you want? Go
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for it. Um, I guess I'd really like to thank
my my class little ELK. Yeah, that's wonderful because we
can't do this all on our own. It takes all
the people around us to make it happen. And so
our winner and their library of choice are gonna be
receiving a set of Who Was books, And I'm going
to give a shout out to the people around us
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who make things happen. Are Intern Zach Jane, Eric, Brian
McCann for being our Galileo and b of course, and
a big thank you to both of our contestants who
played an amazing, very competitive game. Thank you at home
for listening and stay with us. Next week we're gonna
find out who the next two exciting historical figures are
in the Who Was? Podcast? Until then, This is Elliott
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Bolo Leo Kalin saying we're history. Yeah of eye. Folks,
got a question for any of our famous figures, Send
us a voice memo at who Was Podcast at gmail
dot com. It might just end up on the show.
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Hi Helli yah, hi Bee, Why are you so far away?
I wanted to use this telescope after reading about Galileo.
He's one of the pioneers of space exploration and one
of our famous figures today that you chose that instead
of the microphone, after also reading about David Bowie, our
other subject for today's episode. Yes, I would even call
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the distance between us now a real space auditing. Okay,
I'm guessing that's the first of many puns you've got
up your sleeve today. Well, yeah, calling it out like
that really puts me under pressure. But yeah, I got
a lot. Well, you're not the only one who can
play that pun song. Game, let's dance, Eric, play us
in here you go. What do you think you know
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about the room? The game is to get a Jane
buckle up your brain because it's time to play podcast
because it's live from tong Valan or so called so
Cow Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was the History quiz
(01:12):
show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes
and podcast glory. I'm b your announcer who in French
gets to say just sweet Bee. And here's your host.
He's the e bike of the airwaves. It's Elliott Caitlin.
Thank you be I didn't know you knew my childhood nickname,
and welcome everyone to the Who Was Podcast. This show
is like Jeopardy, only the surprise guests, silly games, and
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more televisions. On set, our contestants were sent Who Was
books about two great figures from history. Now they're here
to show off their knowledge and hopes of winning fantastic prizes.
Today we're talking about star men waiting in the sky
as we get to know the scientist Galileo and the
rock star David Bowie. But before we get to know them,
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let's get to know our contestants. First up, we have
Elliott Elliott. Please introduce yourself. I I'm Elliott Elliot. Do
you have a fun fact you want to share with everybody? Um?
I can juggle on a unicycle. WHOA. I don't know
if that's one fun fact or two. That might be
too much fun. It's maybe the funnest fact I've ever heard.
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That's the most fun I've ever heard. Pact into one
fact in my life and with us today we also
have Tazz Tas. Please introduce yourself. Hello, I'm taz Um
I use them him he him pronounced great well. Welcome
Taz and welcome Elliott. We are so excited to have
you both on the show. Thank you both, Yes, and
thank you to Eric our musician providing that lovely meet
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the contestants music and all the music on the show today.
So that's who is. Now let's find out who was
Galileo with four fast facts. Groundbreaking mathematician and astronomer. He's
the Michael Jordans of science. Developed the nautical telescope to
see into the far reaches of space in sixteen o nine,
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discovered the four moons of Jupiter. Was placed under house
arrest in sixteen thirty three by the Catholic Church for
stating that the Earth went around the Sun. Galileo made
more contributions to astronomy than any other single individual, not
to mention his contributions to physics and mathematics. Yeah, and
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his handsome looks. Galileo Gali, Galileo, Galileu b B. It's
it's Galilee Galilee Galileu. No, No, it's no, you switch
it around, you you change the Galileo Galilee. No, that's again,
you're switching it too much. Galileo DiCaprio, I described by
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Galileo's take a share situation. Oh, Galileo, okay, cool, certainly
makes it a lot easier, Galileo, thank you so much
for joining us, and thanks to the who was app
forgetting you here? Was you want to make someone in
the past all indeed that it is my pleasure. Spending
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the last years of your life under house arrest makes
you grateful for every interaction. Well, we love it. If
you could host our next game. It's called true or false?
True or false? Is false? Is it false? Or is
the true? Is the truth that it has false? Is
it false that it was true? Or true? True or false?
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I love that song. It's as confusing as it is wonderful.
Galileo is going to ask our contestants a question, and
they're gonna let us know if it's true or false.
This first one is for Elliott. Take it away, Gali, Okay?
True or false. The time period in which I was
born in Italy, it was referred to as the crusade
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for people who are on a crusade or a mission
to make new developments in art and science. False. That's right,
it's false. He was born during the Renaissance. Or rebirth
because discovery was in the air. Other famous figures from
this time include Michael Angelo and Shakespeare. The next question
is fortas Galileo. Take it away. Well, when I was
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enrolled at the University of Pizza, my nickname was the
Puppe because I was such a teacher's pan. False. Correct,
false Again. Get's nickname was the Wrangler because he would
quarrel with professors and question everything in lengthy debate before
he eventually got expelled from school. Also, I've got to
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assume he's wearing jeans, hence the name. Next question goes
to Elliott. People call me the father of modern science
because I rigorously tested out my theories before presenting them
in the system I developed called the scientific method that
is still used today. True. That's right, it's true. Before Galleo,
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scientists basically just made a lot of claims about the
world without actually testing them out. Galileo basically made a
career of saying um, actually to Aristotle, who had many
untested theories, like when Aristotle said that eels generated from mud.
We know that's not true, right or is it not?
That sounds now that I think it might be true.
I'm very frightened about rainy days. Okay, the next question
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is for tas. Okay, Dad's listen closely. After I discovered
the hour moons of Jupiter, I originally named them but
cuff blossom, bubbos and false. That is also false. Correct.
I actually named them after the members of the Media
family in the hopes that the Medici's would be his
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sponsor so that he could go on to do more research,
which is exactly what happened. It worked out great, and
eventually it didn't work out so great, but for a
while it worked out great, and thus concludes true or
false true true true false. Excellent job both of you.
You both did great. But let's hear that numerically by
checking in with producer Jane with the score. Well, the
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numbers add up Elliott and Taz and Elliott are in
a tie too. Two. It's a great time number. It's
a great thing to wear when you're doing ballet to too,
So thank you very much, Jane. Actually I thought it
was how do you how do you say so random
that you bet David Bowie and I together because we
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up here in the afterlife we have a band. Really,
because if it wouldn't be too much to ask. Would
you love to hear what we've been working on? Dude Bowie?
Who was that? You want to read someone in the past. Hello,
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it's me pop byke On David Bowie. Whoa, whoa. Okay,
this is amazing. I'm a huge David Bowie's fan. So um,
please don't let us stop you let us hear this song.
That's okay a podcast people, please put your hands together
for the mute tical stylings of Gallo part of the SPA.
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I think you mean the musical stylings of Bowlilo. It's
Gallolo might have studed, Yes, it's bowl Lo. It sounds
like you're having a little trouble agreeing on a band name.
We've been having trouble agreeing on almost everything, to be honest.
Every let's see we argue a lap. But that's just
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what happens when you get to pop music. I counts
like us in a room together, you know. Of course,
it also means we haven't finished writing any songs. We
started writing about one about stowing away on the certain
new space telescope that got launched a few months back.
Remember that one. We're having adventures and out of space.
Yeah see, but no you know we haven't been able
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to finish a single verse. Well, maybe this is just
coming to me off the dome. Maybe it has An
Elliott can help you with that. Um, they're really smart
and easy to get along with. You know, that's a
great idea. I mean, it's it's it's no lot of pendulums.
That was mine. But you're not pretty good? What do
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you think, Tsan Elliott? Do you want to help David
Bowie and Galio finish their song? Sure? All right, that's
you'll you'll get two points on the back end, okay,
and the way we go we agreed. Um. All right,
so I'll tell you what. I'll start playing, and then
when we get to a place that needs a suggestion
or like a word to fill in, your kids chime in.
All right. So here the fathers are on the telescope
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to the stars. I don't know when we'll get back.
So it's a good thing we brought a snack. Um. Actually,
this is where we got hung up. What kind of
snacks are we were bringing with us? And remember it
has to be something we can eat in space or
a new thing? Yeah yeah, yeah, no, Sue, what do
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you guys think he did do? You have any snacks
we could bring up into space. Um, I guess vinegar ships. Yes, wow,
that's really good. Yeah, love love. So we got some crisps, right,
some solid crisps, and Elliott, what would you like? I
don't know. I guess they like peanuts, except I guess
peanuts has like a common allergy thing. So that's true.
We have to ask all the astronauts, all the crew
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if they were allergic to peanuts. That's very considerate of
you to not bring it just in case gal Leo
and David Bowie and Taz were allergic. That's very considerate. Yeah, legum,
it's go on with the track, all right, I think
I've got all right need eating salting, vinegar, crisp, and
peanuts if you're not allergic. As we passed by moons,
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big dippers that look like schools, hoping that we just
might see actually, yeah, we want to see some stuff.
You know, we're in space, right, we're not boring. Uh so,
so what what do you think we'll see in space?
What do you want to see in space? I mean,
I I will answer this before I'll give Taz an
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Elliott a moment to think. I want to see some
space trash out there. I want to see some space garbage.
I want to see a floating but I want to
see what it is. Um. I'm just very interested in that, tas, Elliott,
what are you hoping that you would see if you
were in space? Extra terrestrials, more terrestrials? Yes, no, no,
I think Mr Bowie, I think I think tas means
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not more not more terrestrials would have extra terrestrials like aliens,
terrestrials that are a bit too much the extra. No, no,
not not ones that are too terrestrial. That's that I
think your miss Let's uh, tas. Why did you just
say aliens? Okay? Alien? Ironic that David Bowie, who wrote
so many songs about space travel and and people from
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outer spaces, is having trouble grasping the concept of aliens
from space. Well either way, Elliott, with one t what
would you like to see in the space exploration? I
don't know, but maybe you wrote this song called space
Oddity and it was about Major m and got austin space.
If you should go try to find Major Tom. I
mean you kind of messed up big there, you know,
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getting him aust in space. You should really try to
find Major Tom. Thank you for calling that back finally.
M hm, this is it's your reconciliation tour. You can.
It does seem like the least that David Bowie could
do is to rescue that that astronaut that we've got
lost in space. Yeah, this sounds perfect for folding into
the song. All right, here we go hoping that we
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just might see terrestrials extra o regularly and finally reunite
with Major Tom. Oh, the wonders of space coming into view,
the story of a star bound crew. As the Earth
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goes round the Sun, we cannot say that. We have
to say the Sun goes around there, Gali man, Uh,
you know the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth. It's
the other way around. Yeah, Galileo knows that, but the
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Pope says, are not allowed to see that. The same
thing happens, y'all hear this right. It's every time we
tried to write a kill a tune and we get
to some spot that you said the Pope won't let
you sing, Okay, Galileo and David Bowie, I think there's, uh,
there's bigger problems with the band than Arcadestan is gonna
really fix right now. But thank you Elliott, thank you
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Tas for helping them with the song. Maybe someday they'll
be able to figure out a way that they can
express themselves without getting into trouble from the Pope. Yeah,
I have faith for Galli Galli LOI but bow bow
bowl Lalo bowe lao norder DiCaprio. Oh mama Mia, Oh sorry, Scoozy,
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I must be off. I am late from my lunch
of chicken fingers with Shakespeare. Oh oh so sorry, we're
saying top of the morning. Okay, thanks to these beautiful contestants,
and thanks again to the who was by Galileo Glatzi
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Galileo a river dergy. Hey, David, while you're here, do
you think you could stick around to help us with
our next game. I've got some time before our next
bol Leo practice, which I'll delay as long as possible.
Now it's Galio, I thought had left you know what.
Let's say, take as long as you need for obvious reasons.
Shakespeare by Okay, let's let's work this out. We'll be
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back with more after this quick break. Eric, can you
please play us some Italian music? Pass the pasta Hey,
who Was Her? I want to make a shout out
to your own favorite person history, famous or unfamous. Do
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Would you like to tell us your craziest dream? I
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memo at the who Was Podcast at gmail dot com.
Welcome back to the Whola Was Podcast. We're finding out
more about David Bowie and Galileo today and our Starman episode.
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When we last left off, Elliott had two points in
Tesz had two points. And now back to your host,
Elliot Kalin. Thank you be not the contestant Elliott. That's
a different Elliott. We just happened to have the same
amazing name. And thank you to our special guest David
Bowie for sticking around through the break pleasure. So let's
get to know more about this David Bowie character with
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four fast facts. Born David Robert Jones in in England,
I've sold over a million albums in my career, winner
of a two thousand six Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award, launched
my own internet service provider called Bowie Netty. I'm actually
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using Bowiette right now to get on the internet slow
in my end. That's why it's really cool if you're wondering. Now,
let's get right into our next game. B Sides. Now,
back before we were all streaming music, we had record
albums which have two sides. The A side usually had
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the hit song on it, and the B side was
another song that was less well known. Now we found
some of David's unrecorded lyrics to songs he was writing.
Who sold my unfinished catslog? I left a post it
note on the top of that lot saying top secret.
No one was supposed to touch that. All right, we'll
take it from me, David Bowie. Post it notes are
not legally binding, that is for sure. And so we're
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gonna continue with the game. Now. In this game, you're
gonna listen to the lyrics and tell us what he
was writing about for one point each. And this is
a multiple choice game, so we'll be offering you choices
of options and you'll choose the one you think is best.
Tas this first song is for you, okay ta, I'm
just a character from David Bowie's brain, singing about space
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and spiders, with my stomm and refrain. Now was David
Bowie singing about a character he created called a silly
Zardust be Ziggy Stardust or see Zoey Deschanel. B. That's right.
The answer is be Zeky Sardust is a character David
transformed himself into while performing. The next question is for Elliott.
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Major Tom was alone and scared, but until this event
no one much cared. Okay, Now what big event is
David Bowie talking about that affected Major Tom? Is it
a the fall of the Berlin Wall? Be the Apollo
eleven moon landing or see the live Aid concert. B.
That's right, it's yeah. Don't teach your answer, no, it
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was right. Okay Dad, don't noverthink yourself. Come on, first answer,
best answer. The answer is the Apollo moon landing and
the song is called Space Oddity. It was inspired by
a very famous movie, one of my favorites personally called
two thousand one a Space Odyssey, and David used the
image of an astronaut to tap into his feelings of
loneliness and to connect with people all over the world
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and maybe other worlds. Who knows. Next song is for
Taz Go ahead, dB. The fame was too much. Oh
what a pity, So I left the spotlight and camped
out in this city. Okay, which city is David talking about?
Is it a Edinburgh, Scotland, B Berlin, Germany or see
Labyrinth Chile. Huh. I'm not sure about this one, so
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I'm just gonna go with B. That's right. The answer
is B. Berlin is also where he wrote his hit
song Heroes. And for the record, Labyrinth Chile is not
a real place, so don't try to go there. You'll
get lost, hence the name. It's not real. The next
question is for Elliott, a great first date can be
fancy as can be, or make it really special and
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just have tea. What for state is David talking about here?
A his first time sitting down with his friend John Lennon,
be his first date with future wife came on, or
see his first date with the Elephant Man. Uh B,
that's right. The answers be David didn't Dave the Elephant Man.
He portrayed him on Broadway, once again shattering expectations people
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had about him being just a musician. So that's the
end of B sides. Excellent round for both of you,
and let's check in with producer Jane for the Discus
Gus Gus scores? Did that work? I liked it? Yes, Elliott,
I don't mind telling you that we are once again
head to head. The score is tied with TAZ four
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helly four four for four or four. It's a great
beat and also a great score. Well, great working, and
thanks so much for your help on the song. And uh,
this has been fantastic, but I must be on my way.
Thanks for having me and thanks again. Who was that? Who? Boy? Wow?
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What a fun exciting episode this has been with both
David Bowie and Galileo. Oh, I know, I am such
a fan of them both. I wish I could just
have like a dance break where we all jam out
to David Bowie songs. Well, you know what, I encourage
our listeners to do just that. Now while we take
a short break, go ahead, google some David Bowie hits.
Get dancing. We'll be back with the scores end our
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final game right after this, Eric, play us some dance
music please five six, seven eight. We're back on the
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Whose podcast today we're learning all about who was David
Bowie and who was Galileo? When we last left off
Elliott had four points and Tess had four points. And
now here's your host, Elliott Klin. Thank you be for
pronouncing the second T in my name. Most people forget to.
I appreciate it. Now it's time for our final game,
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Converge of Greatness. Is there a more inspiring piece of
music than that? Answer? No? And this multiple choice game
be will read questions where are two historical figures over lamp?
And because we'recovering two times the history, this game is
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worth two points for each question that's right two times
the history, two times the points. Pick the best option
as your answer, Elliott, this first question is for you.
Take it away, be alright. Both Galileo and Bowie come
from musical families. Bowie Stanley was one of the first
in their neighborhood to own a record player, but Galileo's
father was one of the first musicians to do this.
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Is it A create notes and add them to the scale, B,
use a voice modulator or see sing in a giant
snail costume and make people guess his idea to T
A and C sounds a little weird. The answer is
A and C. To be fairisee does sound a little weird. Yeah,
it does sound a little weird. Hugely successful show though,
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so people like weird stuff, I guess. But the answer
is a. Galileo followed in his father's footsteps when he
stepped outside the norms and questions the old ways of thinking.
Galileo's father wrote a book on music theory that angered people,
not enough to put him under house arrest. That was
for his son to do, and not enough I guess
for people to put him in a snail costume. Okay,
next question is for Tad's Bowie and Galileo were both
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known for their flamboyant style of dress. Bowie went more
towards sparkles and vibrant colors, but Galileo's form of flamboyant
dressing meant he a were powdered wigs. Be invented a
new type of pants that was half shorts and half pants,
called cool lots or coolat Doza, as they might say.
An Italian or ce rejected the long floy robes that
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university professors of his time were supposed to wear. See
that's right, The answer is cee. Although Galileo would have
looks nice in those cool logs, He's got great calves
ashamed to hide them under that snail costume. Next question
is for Elliott. Galileo and Bowie didn't do all their
work alone. They had some very powerful supporters. For Galileo
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that meant the Medici family. But which one of the
following people is someone who helped Bowie achieve his musical goals?
A Marina Gamba, B Brian Eno or see Hunky Dory.
Um B, that's right, The answer is B record producer
Brian Eno. Marina Gambo was the name of Galileo's longtime
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romantic partner, and Hunky Dory is not a person, no
matter what the Real Housewives thinks. Okay, this last question
is for Taz. Go ahead, be alright. Bowie is saying
about a star man and Galileo discovered the man in
the moon was actually this is it a lunar mountains
and craters? Be left over to are you from asteroids
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or see mountains of snow from lunar avalanches? B. I'm
so sorry. The answer is A. It's lunar mountains and craters.
But that's a good guest. Aristotle claimed the moon was smooth,
and Galileo once again proved him wrong. Take that Aristotle,
stay down your burnt. That sound means right at the
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end of that game and the end of the show. Now,
while we wait for Jane to tell you the points,
I'd love to hear from our contestants. Is there anything
that you learned about David Bowie or Galileo preparing for
the game that really surprised you or stuck out to you,
something that you really remember, you found really interesting? Tes
what about you? Is there anything that you learned that
really stuck with you? Um I learned a lot about
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David Bowie, but um I had done studies on Galileo already.
Is there something that wasn't covered in the book about
Galileo that you would wanna share with us, like another
fun fact that maybe we don't know about Galileo. Well, actually,
on the internet they said that he died um at
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um seventy seven, but in the book it said he
died at seventy eight. Looks like we've got a history's
mystery on our hand. Yeah, we gotta talk. We gotta
double check with the good people who was book series
and figure that out. Well, it's okay if the book
is a little off. It is written by a penguin, right, Yes, exactly.
You put enough penguins in a room with the typewriters
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and you'll get it. Who was book for sure? So, Elliott,
is there anything about David Bowie or Galileo that really
stuck out to you or that you really remembered were
surprised by. I'd say for David Bowie, I thought it
was super cool how he like really didn't care what
other people thought. He was just like really, you know,
I thought it was really cool with like the too
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cover photos, you know, for that album, he like did
that one cover photo and that really showed like who
he was. I mean, it's it's too bad that like
the the US like made it some really bad picture
of a cowboy, but whatever, But yeah, I thought that
was just really cool. Yeah, that he was willing to
go out there and really express himself. Yeah, is there
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something about his music is great? But also just giving
other people permission to be themselves by being out there
being himself is just such a wonderful achievement and contribution.
So that's a great message take from it. Thank you both,
and now for the big moment, Jane, please announce our winner. Well,
Elliott and b I don't mind telling you that it
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was neck and neck for a long while. Tas ended
up with six points, but Eli launched themselves into the
stratosphere with eight points. Elliyot is our winner. Elliott, great job, Tas,
Great job to you both played a fantastic game. Now
Elliott as our winner. You have ten seconds for shoutouts.
Who would you like to thank? Anyone you want? Go
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for it. Um, I guess I'd really like to thank
my my class little ELK. Yeah, that's wonderful because we
can't do this all on our own. It takes all
the people around us to make it happen. And so
our winner and their library of choice are gonna be
receiving a set of Who Was books, And I'm going
to give a shout out to the people around us
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who make things happen. Are Intern Zach Jane, Eric, Brian
McCann for being our Galileo and b of course, and
a big thank you to both of our contestants who
played an amazing, very competitive game. Thank you at home
for listening and stay with us. Next week we're gonna
find out who the next two exciting historical figures are
in the Who Was? Podcast? Until then, This is Elliott
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Bolo Leo Kalin saying we're history. Yeah of eye. Folks,
got a question for any of our famous figures, Send
us a voice memo at who Was Podcast at gmail
dot com. It might just end up on the show.
Who Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point, I Heart
Meet and Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling who
(28:02):
h Q series published by Penguin. Who Was Podcast is
hosted by Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as
b also starring Jane Baker as Producer, Jane, Eric Shackney
as Eric, and David Bowie, and Brian McCann as Galileer.
The executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Boch, Elliott Calin,
Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. The executive producer
(28:25):
for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sadita. The executive producer for
iHeart Media is Lindsay Hoff. Written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Halin,
Jane Baker and Eric Shackney, this podcast was produced by
Bernie Kaminski. Our talent producer is Jane Baker. The theme
song and music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney,
edited and mixed by Caitlin Molden. Howard recorded by Joanna Samuels.
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Special thanks to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda, Daniel Goodman, and
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