Lillie Kane, Certified Health & Nutrition Life coach, Longevity Researcher, and biohacker.

                             ---------- Originally Aired on the Good Foods Podcast ----------

It was an absolute pleasure to sit with Lillie and go over her own story of what she had to go through to reach the awareness that what she was doing, wasn't going to work for her in the long run.

Our conversation will take you to Hawaii, to the impact that her grandmother had on her life decision and of course her clients.

Lillie Kane, a Certified Nutrition Health Coach, is dedicated to enhancing wellness through personalized guidance. Her expertise lies in optimizing micronutrient intake and energizing metabolism.

With a focus on teaching the principles of reverse dieting and biohacking, she empowers individuals to transform their body composition, enhance cognitive function, and promote longevity.

Lillie's impact extends through her vibrant presence on YouTube, where her engaging short-form videos not only offer invaluable insights into healthy living but also infuse humor, positivity, and comedy. Watching her videos is not just informative but also guarantees a smile each time.  

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The Good Foods podcast was created and hosted by Shardan Sandoval in March of 2023 and was active until September of 2024. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello. I'm Lily Kane, a certified nutrition health coach dedicated
to enhancing wellness through personalized guidance and my expertise life
in optimizing micronutrient intake and energizing metabolism. And this is
the Good Foods Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
All of us are on a journey towards better health
and we're grateful that you've allowed us to join you
on your quest in this episode.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Absolutely, I think most Americans are efficient in vitamin D,
so I would absolutely be considering vitamin D three or
getting out in the sunshine. I think if you live
in the Southern hemisphere, you can have just ten minutes
a ton a day and be able to get most
of the vitamin D that you would need. And then
after that I would say magnesium.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
This is the Good Foods Podcast and now here's your host, show.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Dan, Lily Kane. Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Awesome, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm excited when you were all in and transformed your health.
What was happening before you made the decision to take
control of your health.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Very interesting question because I feel like I'm very unique
in comparison to other people who maybe they had one
hundred pounds to lose or a serious autoimmune condition, or
they had mental health issues. And I was just one
of those ones who just kind of stumbled upon finding
eating healthier foods because of my husband. So I actually
grew up very low income on food stamps. My mom

(01:22):
was a single parent. She tried her very best, but
she was addicted to drugs and alcohol, so she had
a really hard time keeping a job. And so because
we grew up very low income, I actually grew up
in what I would call warp like a calorie deficit
where I just didn't have enough money to be able
to buy an abundance of food. So I was teased
at the girl who was chicken legs, flat chested, and arexi.

(01:42):
And I ended up looking back on life and saying, hey,
you know what I think, I was just eating so
little food. I was eating lots of processed food, so
top ram and macaroni and cheese, hot dogs, things like that,
growing up going to the ninety nine cents store and
dollar Tree in San Diego with my mom to go
grocery shopping. And then it wasn't until I moved to
college where I had access to the all you can

(02:04):
eat buffet and I was actually a track and field
athlete all four years while I was in college. So
even though I was eating a lot more food than
I used to eat back when I was younger, I
did gain the freshman fifteen, but I still had a
lot of muscle because I was an athlete. So once
I graduated from college, I ended up moving to Hawaii

(02:25):
and that's where I met my now husband. Now he
is nine years older than me, so he had already
learned a lot about nutrition and fitness, and he had
done the all fruit fruititarian diet, the vegan diet, vegetarian diet,
paleum under training, and keto. He had done all the
different kinds of diets and knew it worked really well
for him. But I was twenty ten at the time,
still drank an alcohol, eating donuts, and while I was

(02:47):
still lean, I was having things like east infections, UTIs, acne,
mental cycle irregularities, joint pain. I was getting sick three
to four times a year with the stuff he knows
to wor throat cough, and I would just say, hey, well,
this is part of what everybody goes through. It's winter,
that's why I have the flu. Or I'm buy somebody
who's sick. It's just inevitable. It's genetics, it's serendipity. I

(03:08):
get sick, that's what happens. But turns out when he
just rives some of these processed yellpoods that contribute to inflammation,
they don't provide lots of vitamins and minerals and nutrients.
I was so nutrient to prime. My poor body was sufferings.
My immune system was lack and saying, hey girl, please
give me some vitamins and minerals with the foods that
you're eating. So I guess the short answer is I

(03:29):
happened to just luckily end up stumbling upon eating healthier
just by being around an influence for me who I
looked up to. And I always question, how come my
husband doesn't need to be eating the cookie dough while
we watch TV. How come he doesn't need to have
the donut? Why doesn't he needed to drink the alcohol?
And so just by being around a positive influence and
having an environment that was more health promoting made me

(03:50):
make some changes.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
So how did you embrace first meat? And how long
did it take before food came into the discussion?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So Bryce was my boss. Enterprise ran a car. He
was the manager of five of the locations in Maui's
so I was actually stationed at a hotel called the
Grand Viilea in Maui. I called him a silver fox.
Granted he was thirty one, okay, bye. I always thought
he was like out of my league. He's mature, smart,
got a good job, and very fit and active. I

(04:20):
saw him as like a boss, though, And then it
wasn't until I went to the gym one day and
I saw him at the gym and he was no
longer wearing like his a litt has shirt or work attire,
and he was wearing more of a tank top, and
I was like whoa, And so I got really nervous.
I ran home. I didn't want him to see me
because I wasn't wearing my cute girl outfit at the gym.
So I knew to show up at the gym the
very next day wearing a cuter outfit and go up
to him. And I just blurted out the first thing

(04:42):
that came out of my mouth, which was I don't
like seeing you like this now. I didn't actually think
that that meant flirty, but he was like, yeah, you
basically had rule to coming down your face and said, hey,
I'm ready, So he kind of got the hint and yeah.
So we had actually known each other for several months
before we ended up dating, so through work.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
How much did your experience with your grandmother at the
end of her life impact you.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So my grandmother had Alzheimer's or vencia. And when I
was I want to say, I was like ten years old,
she started having it and it was pretty You know,
when you're a young person and you see somebody's going
through this, you think, like, this is so insane to
hear somebody who's So she's from Vienna, Austria, So she
moved here to the US when she was eighteen, by herself,
no parents, no family members, just her by herself. And

(05:27):
so firstly she forgot how to speak English and she
only started speaking Austrian, and nobody knew how to conversate
with her. And then even just asking her a simple
question like hey, what's the color of your nail polish?
And her nails were painted red and she's like green,
and you're like, well, how is this going on? And
she slowly started forgetting how to go to the bathroom,
having to have a cathe or having to be in
a bed, didn't know how to speak, didn't know how

(05:48):
to walk talk, didn't know who any of us were,
or her husband calling her husband her ex husband's name,
and it was just heartbreaking. And so to see someone
in a wheelchair who I had seen so active and
always playing tennis and walking, to be so sick and
in a bed and be like a ghost and like
a baby because not knowing how to do anything for yourself,

(06:10):
and being angry, because I could just see how when
you have no memory, how bitter you become, how angry,
confused and sad you are. And so I didn't honestly,
at that age, I didn't want to be around her.
And I know look back now, and you know I
should have tried to spend more time, even though it
felt uncomfortable, like to be the person watching. It's uncomfortable

(06:31):
to witness, and it just always made me want to
be I thought it was genetics. I thought that this
was going to be, oh, I'm going to have to
go through this one day in my life. And now
I no longer believe that's the case. And I do
think that food absolutely pleaserable and our brain health and
our immune system and how we function, and so I've
been consciously aware of doing the things that I think
at least are going to be the most beneficial for
my brain health, so I don't have to go through

(06:52):
something like Alzheimer's and dementia, not only for myself but
for my family.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well let's expand on that a bit. What do you
do to stay on top of your game as far
as your brain health is concerned.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So with food, things like I think omega threes are
really important, So I will have salmon, cod and sardines
and oysters every week. I also take cold liberal oil
every day and fish oils Mega threees on top of that.
And then the middle process food it's hopefully you know.
I mean, I don't actually eat processed foods. But I
also feel like we have a very unique situation where

(07:23):
we don't go out to eat. We go out to
eat one time a year. So I know that I
am very unrelatable to people in certain ways. So if
I say, like I never eat processed foods, then the
average person listening may think that they have to be
so perfect and never have that, and that's not what
I'm saying. I'm sure some people can get away with
having it here and there, special occasions and things. But
for me, it's just not something I gravitate towards at
this point in my life. But so I would say,

(07:44):
while yes, the things that we input are important, So
I have things like liver like I mentioned that mega threes,
I do all grass finished beefs and organic foods. So
while I think the things that we put in are
so important, I think also the things that we don't
put in are very important. So no alcohol, A missmoking,
I splitit my I call them bad fats like canola oil,
cotton seed oil, festam seed oil, the vegetable oils that

(08:06):
are already oxidized. Fats are already overheated and damaged. I
don't want to be putting bad fats into my system.
But unrelated to food, I also try to do things
like read and we play word called wordle and connections
every night, and different like brain puzzles. We play games.
We do board games every single week, and we do walks.

(08:27):
I think movement and activity exercise are so important for
our brain health and our just bodies in general, so
I do things like string training, going to the gym,
then getting sunshine, keeping our immune system up with the
vitamin D. So lots of little things that seem like
an overwhelming amount of things to do for someone who
maybe right now they're kind of just like going through
life as is, and to think like what I have

(08:47):
to get a walk in some sunshine and to exercise
and to eat right, it seems like a lot, But
you don't really think that way about like brushing your teeth,
getting in your car, you know, going to the grocery store,
Like these are all things that we all do and
it just becomes a habit is. It's never like, oh,
twist my arm, I gotta go walk outside of the
thud around my neighborhood. It's like, oh gosh, yeah, I
get to finish having my meal and then go take
a time minute walk and it feels so good and

(09:08):
it's like a way to break up my day because
I am sitting most of my day like I am
right now. So it's nice to get body boob. But
then I think sometimes they think of it as a
chore when really it's actually really fun.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well after you started with your new health regime, how
long was it before you started to see the difference
within your body? And what was one of the first
sign posts that showed up that made you realize, yeah,
I think I know what I'm doing. I think I'm
on the right track.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
It was actually through a coworker's mom who saw me
at one point and then six months later was like,
you lost waity, And I was like what, Like I
was offended, and my husband was like, yeah, look at
those pictures of being back in Japan, and I was
like what I was overwaiting to tell me because I
never saw myself as like not that I was like overweight,
but I had inflammation in my face. I was holding
a lot of water in my face and things like that.

(09:53):
So I have somebody else who I just think six
months tell me, like you lost weight. That's where it
was kind of like, WHOA, what did I do? But
also I think a big thing for me as a
woman having my menstrual cycle regulate, and also I used
to have really severe cramping, and so it was like
so debiliictitating that there was points where like in school,
I couldn't even keep my head up off the desk.
I would have to put my head down. I would

(10:13):
be laying outside of my classroom on the colds and
that floor because that's what felt comfortable. And then the
nimbers had to come and get a wheelchair and wheelchair
me out of the school, and then my mom had
to pick me up several times early because my cramps
were just so bad, having my legs up on the wall,
having a heating pad, having to take adbul and medication
and mitigate the pain that I was in. And so
for ladies, they understand you go through these like excruciating

(10:35):
painful moments and then even having like those peaks of
energy and then the crash and needing to take a
nap every day. So as soon as they stopped needing
to take a nap and no longer needing to have
like the mood swings, I would like watch a movie
like a chick flick or not even not even like
a sad movie, and I would just start crying for
no reason. And my emotions were just all over the place.
And so when I started realizing, oh, my goodness, I

(10:56):
have no cramping, I don't even know in my cycles
coming that all my sister's wedding was walking her down
the aisle, I'm like, oh, what's happening right now in
front of everybody? So yeah, just like small micro moments
A long the way, I would say probably within six
months for sure, I would have noticed significant improvements. And
that wasn't even by doing anything really crazy more or less,
just like removing the processed foods and alcohol.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I can't obviously know because we're doing this re moldely.
But do you smell like b Yes, let's talk about
tallow versus a more conventional bar of soap.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, so I do use Talo soap, which is really
rich in vitamins aed end K. So when we put
these things on our skin, our skin absorbs will we
put on it? So some people that think that sounds extreme.
No way, does your skin eat what you put on it?
But I don't know how many people would be putting
sharpie pen on them and like leaving sharpie and then
it disappears into their skin. Like these things do absorb

(11:46):
into your skin. So therefore I used to put different
like shampoos, lotions, creams on my especially when I had acne.
I used to put things on my skin trying to
get rid of the actne. Meanwhile, more active was happening
as I'm clogging my pores and war so and I'm
adding more chemicals and things into my skins. So I
started hearing about tallol online. Different companies were reaching out saying, hey,
have you heard about this twel stuff? And I was like,

(12:08):
beef fat. Putting beef fat on my tin doesn't seem
like the normal thing to do, But then again, I
don't do what those normal people do anyway, so bring
it on. So there's different ones that are just unscented,
but they don't smell like beef, and there's some that
do have like vanilla a stract or some like peppermints.
System of them have sense, so they don't all smell
like to regular unflavored smelling ones smells like nothing. It

(12:31):
doesn't even smell like beef. But then the ones that
have sense, they do just smell like your normal lotion,
look like normal lotion, go on like normal lotion. And
it's really not that they have a deal today, But
I understand it seems kind of strange to most people
thinking that they're going to be putting fat on their skins.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Are you extra popular with the neighborhood dogs by any chance?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah? No, neighborhood dogs have started looking me quite yet.
But my husband starts flicking me, No.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
What is the top topic that your clients want to
talk about to you when you're helping them.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, many of the people who I see are coming
for weight loss, though oftentimes I have to kind of
take them through the opposite of a weight loss journey. Initially,
as many people coming to me, I do work with
quite a bit of older clients, and so they'll be
maybe someone in their sixties who they're saying, Lily, I'm
eating eight hundred calories and I'm not losing weight, And
I'm like, how did we get to this point where
you're eating eight hundred calories? And I think that over

(13:22):
the years and the decades of trying different diets and
trying to lose weight, they never came out of diet mode,
as in, they were eating a certain amount of fall calories.
Then they decided to do a diet to lose weight,
so they cut their calories or lessen their food intake,
and then they forgot that after they've lost some weight,
they've got to slowly come out of that diet mode.
But instead they get really used to eating that smaller

(13:42):
amount of food. The metabolism drops based on metabolic great falls,
and now they are maintaining their weight at a smaller
amount of food intake. So eventually in a long run,
I promote like boosting your metabolism and working on reverse
dieting and going through periods where we're not just in
diet modellory restricting hardcore, and so oftentimes I've found people

(14:03):
who they've gone through like this metabolism spiral hole plunge
where they've just cut cut, cut, cut, cut cut cut
over the years. Now they're eating so little. There's no
way you're getting all the vitamin ad e ks linium, sodium, copper, iron,
magnesium without supplementation eating eight hundred calories. It's just impossible.
I have tried tracking what is the smallest amount of

(14:23):
food somebody could eat to hit all of their vitamins
and minerals, and it was fourteen hundred calories. Now that said,
it was like you're eating beef liver, chicken liver, and
a nutritional needs to like the craziest food concoction ever
that no one's doing, And it's just much easier to
get all your nutrition by eating more food.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Do you work with people within their diets, within the
wather they're comfortable eating. Does that help?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes? So oftentimes people come to me, and I understand
I have a lot of carnivore content. I'm trying to
actually get out of that like kind of niche area,
because initially, when I had gotten to more of the
carnivore you world, this is years ago, it was more
like the Kelly Hogan Lauris Bath kind of carnival or
where it's like, yeah, you have some lustard, you have
your seasonings, you have coffee, whatever the thing is that

(15:05):
brings you joy. And over the years it's kind of
warped into like, no plants are gonna kill you, plants
are toxic you, drinking coffee, like drinking cyanide, eating a
carbohydrate's gonna make it fat, like things that I just
really never agreed with in the first place. And now
it's kind of more more into that where I'm now
being bucketed into somebody who's like, oh, you're never allowed
to eat orange, and I'm like, oh, I don't agree
with that. So anyway, many people come to me initially

(15:27):
thinking they're gonna do a carnivore diet and I'm like, nope,
we are doing the Jawn diet, the Sarah diet, the
Bill diet, because I you know, six out of seven
people who start a diet lose weight. That's fantastic. Almost
everybody who starts a diet's gonna lose weight. However, over
eighty five percent of them will regain the weight within
three years. So why is that? Well, I'm thinking maybe

(15:49):
they didn't like the taste of the food. You know
they're eating all there's I'm gonna eat this land stuffs,
naty stuff. Or maybe the food took too much time
of their day to prepare and to cook. They've got
to soak the beans for meant them sprout them, all
the things takes too long to make all this long term,
or it doesn't work with their social life, going on vacations,
their work, their travels, And so I say, hey, you know,

(16:11):
we are not doing carnivore. There's no rules. You're not
doing keto, you're not doing low carb. We are doing
the diet that you are going to enjoy the taste of.
It's going to work with your lifestyle in terms of
like timing and your family life. You don't want to
be the weirdo. You know, people feel like they are
get ostracized from society if they're doing things that they
think make them stand out in a unique way from
their food intake. And we can go it doun a

(16:31):
who rabbit hole on that, but guide just try to
create the diet that I think is going to be
most sustainable, because stri I can get you to do
a diet that I think would help you lose weight fast,
but if you're going to regain the weight, then who cares?
I want you to do something that's sustainable.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And of course there's doctor Internet and we get so
confused because we're pulling every diverer. We don't know what
we're doing, Lily King, we don't.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, even for me, it's like I don't honestly watch
nutrition videos because it's just two logic's gone out the
window sometimes where it's like people are becoming a rate
of food. But then yeah, it's a lot. I think
like one hundred years ago, you would have just gone
to your grocery store and you would have had grass
finished meats. You wouldn't have the option for grain finish,

(17:10):
you would have just had raw milk, you wouldn't have
had the option for pastras. You would have just had
organic fruits and veggies or wildcought salmon, and you didn't
have the option for the other things. And so even
with the verbiage and the label, it's confusing for people.
It's more expensive, and then they're like, wait, so I'm
going to do the diet wrong if it's not grass finished.
Wait so I'm not going to be healthy if the
milk's not raw. And then it just gets confusing and

(17:31):
overwhelming for people. And I think let's just start with
the basics. Hey, eat real whole foods. Get rid of
the processed foods. And if you find that, particularly you
have an issue with carrots, cool, let's robe the carts.
If you have the honey, you're gonna end up binge
eating ice cream. Okay, cool, no honey. But not everyone's
going to have the same results and experience with food.
And I think that sometimes when we have our own
individual experience and say I didn't do well with celery,

(17:53):
therefore nobody's going to do well with celery. You know,
we can't be putting our personal experience on everybody else.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And you're right about the labels. One hundred years ago,
salmon with salmon milk was milk. Yep, beef with pea,
you know, but now we've got the separation. You know,
we've got these little niche We've got these I don't know,
slivers of things right right, you know, grain fed, grass fed,
grass finish. Oh, it's all these different little layers right. Well,

(18:21):
Speaking of your clients, how do you track their progress?
Does a keto mojo come into play? Any specific apps?
What is in the lily Caane toolbox?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So I don't really use ketobojo's or any kind of
like keton readers unless someone specifically, like I want to
do a ketogenic approach. Now, I actually, out of all
the clients who I've worked with, I could remember and
recall four of them who I specifically was like, you
would benefit being in true ketosis because oftentimes people think
they're doing keto, especially in the carnivory space. They think

(18:50):
they're doing keto because they're doing little carb. But a
true ketogenic guete like used to treat epilepsy, like therapeutic ketosis,
is actually eighty percent of your calories coming from fat.
And so while a lot of people who are eating
with carnaber diet are doing really good on like having
less carbs, if that's their option or if that's what
they prefer, then they're still eating pretty high protein. So
I find like fifty percent of people doing carnifor are

(19:12):
not doing a ketogenic carnivore diet. And that's fine. I
think that ketosis can be really beneficial for people who
have cancer, who have mental health issues. But so for
those particular four people who I saw who I said
you would specifically do well with a ketogenic diet, three
of them had cancer and one of them had like
really bad mental health issues, and they found that they
do better and keichosis. Now that said, I still have

(19:32):
several clients to do a kaidogenic approach because they prefer
and they enjoy it. But as far as weight loss goes,
people can eat any kind of diet to lose weight.
You can do vegan and lose weight. You can do Mediterranean, palaeocarnivore, keto,
everything in between. You can do the pizza donut diet
and just calorie restrict your pizza donuts and lose weight.
Now is that so healthy? Are you going to feel
your best? Like, what's the reason behind wanting to lose weight?

(19:54):
Is it because I just want to look good? Or
is it because I have joint pain of when I'm
standing up out of my chair I'm heaving, I feel
like exhausted, I have low energy. Well, then doing the
pizza donut diet and calor restricting is probably still not
going to help you with your goal of health. So yeah,
tracking progress with clients, I do it live paper and
pen my stull. Okay, where's your weight, what's you doing?
And then I will share my screen through zoom and
I'll go through a chronometer with them depending on where

(20:16):
they're at on the health journey. Because sometimes I think
that people don't want to get lost in the weeds,
and so it's easier for me to say, hey, here's
the meal plan, do this, and then if it's not working, cool,
let's tweak it and make adjustments. But I kind of
keep a log of like their micronutrient in taty and
that's kind of like getting lost in the weeds for
most people. They don't need to be like, okay that
they hit my vitamin B twelve. So yeah, I kind

(20:37):
of just do a lot of things on the back
end for them, and then it kind of just gets
them to do the simple, easy thing. Because people need simplicity.
They've got a lot going on in their life. So
if I can say Hey, you need protein.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
What's your favorite source of protein? You like chicken?

Speaker 3 (20:50):
You like?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
If you like poortul like trend, if you like fish cool,
The more different variety you can get, the better. And
then as far as after that, you like do cray vegetables?
Do you like fruit?

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
How does that work with your life schedule? We can
put the things in for added flavor, but let's definitely
get in those vitamins, minerals and protein. I mean, I'm
more in a CDM right now, so to like, I'm
thinking about the kida mooja that you brought up. Like again,
I don't think people necessarily have to be in chooses
to lose weight if the goal is weight loss. And
then as far as like blood sugars go, I think
like having something like a CGM is actually pretty eye

(21:19):
opening and insightful for many people, though I haven't like
specifically pushed it on too many clients so far. I
think people need to start with sustainability and simple. They
need easy.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
So what is your favorite recipe to make? And is
it Bryce's favorite too?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's a great question. So Bryce still all the cooking,
So that's that's nice. I am going to be honest,
I am one of those do as I say, not
as they do people for this moment where I one
of the things that I have to personally work on
is being more in the present moment. You and I
were talking off camera about the book The Power of
Now with that cart tool. That's a good one for
me to continually read over and over again because I

(21:53):
am very in my world. I am go go, go, busy,
busy busy, where when I sit down to eat, I'm
actually very unpresent with my food and I'm thinking about
the next thing I gotta do, and eating for me
is like a chore off the checklist. Again, that's not great.
I need to get better about that. But therefore, for myself,
give me anything. You give me a bull of ground beef,
you give me I like bacon. Anything can put on

(22:17):
my plate, I'll eat it. And oftentimes like people ask me,
do you ever get bored of eating the same meal
all the time, And very truthfully the answer is no,
because again, bad habit, I'm not very present with my
meal and so prominent people, that's not very helpful. Please
be present with your food. But I think anything with
bacon you have the cheese in there oh, I love avocados,
so anything that has like the plumbration, and I liked

(22:37):
using a stone to shovel it in. So if we
can get some sort of meal where I actually don't
have to use a working knife. I love rack of lamb,
that's a good one. But even like steak. I love steak,
but I went for fur ground beef just for the
shovel spoon impact.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I like that the chef spoon impact. Speaking of your husband,
I heard a rumor that he's on the juice, and
by that I mean he drinks zero juice. Do you
have normal conversations or is it macro this him bragging
about his less than ten percent body fat things like that.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Do we ever have normal conversations? Absolutely not, no way,
Because so my husband has been working out since he
was eleven, hasn't skipped a day since eleven years old.
I mean, sure, yes he has rest days, but I
mean even like during vacations and stuff, he is not
taking a full week off of working out like his
whole life. COVID was actually like the worst for us
because like we ended up losing he lost forty pounds

(23:27):
accidentally through COVID. I meanwhile, people are gaining thirty five
pound I've heard was what the average American gained. But
when we didn't have access to agent, we lost tons
of muscle and we're very unhealthy and a sense of
like malnourished. It seemed like. Anyway, Yeah, so he's been
working out for pretty much his whole life, has lots
of strength. It's easier for someone to maintain their muscle
if they have it, whereas it's much harder for someone

(23:47):
to like build up muscle. Then granted, hey, better to
build muscle than to be like, oh it's too hard,
I'm not going to do it. But yeah, people do
they look at his busy can go he must feel
the juice because he has muscle, And it seems kind
of like, to be fair, a lazy answer to like
leave on people's videos. I think, like, anytime you see
someone with a nice physique, you say, well, there's no

(24:08):
way that they're just like doing hard work for twenty years.
No way.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
So therefore I'm going to say that they're on steroids.
So yeah, let's talk about supplementation. Everybody is different, but
are there any must go toos for people who are
wanting to get healthier that you can see absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think most Americans are deficient in vitamin D, so
I would absolutely be considering vitamin D three or getting
out in the sunshine. I think if you live in
the southern Hemisphere, you can have just ten minutes a
ton a day and be able to get most of
the vitamin D that you would need. And then after that,
I would say magnesium. So magnesium back in the old
days we used to get in our water supply, and
nowadays we all filter out all the bad stuff rides

(24:47):
and chemicals and heavy metals in our water, but at
the same time we've also stripped our water from all
those good essential minerals and so on. Top of our
water supply being low in magnesium, also our soil health
nowadays zeri depleted in things like magnesium. So not only
if someone's eating more of a plant based site now
they would be more likely to get in more magnesium
than someone who's eating more of an animal based diet.

(25:09):
There is still nutrition in the soil, but it's not
as much as it was the path Instead, I've heard
stats like one hundred years ago, your grandma could have
eaten one orange and gotten a certain amount of vitamin
C magnesium things like that, and then nowadays you would
have to eat that beIN orches to get the equivalent
in nutrition that your grandma did one hundred years ago.
So anyway, our soil health is pretty depleted. So the

(25:29):
plants nowadays have less magnesium in them. And then on
top of that, if you eat more of an animal
based diet, when the animals eat the plant, the animals
themselves are going to have less magnesium. So I do
think that, you know, one of the things that we
used to do was wash our bodies in magnesium, bathing
in rivers and lakes and streams filled with magnesium the ocean,
and now we don't do that, right, So I think

(25:50):
the stat out there like ninety percent of people who
are deficient in magnesium. Don't quote me on that number,
but I think vitamin D three and magnesium would be
the ones for most people that they should consider something
many well.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I brought this up with doctor Bill Schendler, and you
mentioned it, And that's the subject of liver. Where do
you stand on the subject of liver and oregon meets
in general?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So I love the taste of them. If you've never
tried something like heart, heart actually taste leaths big, and
then I like to taste of liver. Some people they
want to do like liver and audience. That adds more
flavor too and makes some pleasurable, but I think they
are for me. Eggs and liver are like two of
nature's multi vitamin. So if you want to get most
staying for your book, have both. But if you are

(26:31):
like hate liver, then fine, you know, have maybe four
eggs a day. Or if you're like I don't do
well with aggs, okay, well hate, maybe think about liver.
But people don't need to have liver in their diet.
I just think it's one of those things like for
me going to bed at night, I get to fall
asleep peacefully and saying, hey, I got a pretty much
a little bit of every single micro nutrient from vitamin A,
lots of vitamin A, full late vitamin bean. There's a

(26:53):
like literally every single vitamin and mineral in liver at
least a little bit. And so for me, I like
the taste to them and I like the nutrition in them.
Now I don't actually eat liver every day, just because
for me, when I get my package of liver from
my farmer, it comes frozen in a pound package. So
for us, when we thought we kind of have to
eat a pound right away, so we'll kind of cut

(27:14):
it in half and then we'll have eight ounces between
my husband and I, so four ounces each, and then
we will have that for a meal, and then maybe
a couple days later, have that other eight ounces split
between the two of us four ounces each, and then
we won't have liver for like a week or two.
So I think like on average we're having like a
half ounce of liver a day, and I think that's
a really healthy, good thing to do, especially if you

(27:36):
like to taste it.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well. You mentioned briefly coffee. What are your thoughts on coffee,
because there are I mean so many different It's good,
it's bad, it's good for brain health, it's not you know,
it's this or that. It's again doctor Internet, Lily, what
are we doing help us here a little bit?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So I think like it really depends on the quality
of the coffee is one thing. So it's getting a
dunkin Donuts coffee the same thing as getting like a
mold free coffee. Absolutely not the same thing, right, putting
tons of sugars in it or adding different ingredients and
if that take away from the fact that it's coffee.
So I personally don't drink coffee just because I don't
like the taste, because I have so much energy as is.
My poor husband would have to tie me down to

(28:14):
this chair if I drink coffee. So he drinks coffee
though every day he just makes it with likes. It's
just coffee, a table sweep of honey and a cup
and a half raw milk, and he mixes it up
and there's his coffee. I think that it can be abused,
so I think it's song Seting five cups of coffee
a day likely not that great. But I've also, like
you said, seeing the Fetties, where sure it could be
great for brain function and it could be good for longevity.

(28:37):
But again, I think it really depends on the quality
of the coffee and what time you're having it. Is
it affecting your sleep At the same time, I really
do think about like the enjoyment and pleasure of life.
My husband removed coffee because they thought it might be
irritating his gut, and he'd stopped having coffee for a
year and a half By the end of the year
and a half. He was like, I don't notice any difference.
I enjoyed my life more when I had it. I'm

(28:59):
gonna have coffe again, and now he's a happier person
because of it. So I think happiness plays the absolute
role in our health, and so if it brings some happiness,
then if it does a little bit of damage in
some other area, how do we measure what's truly healthy
in the long run, If that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
What's been one of the biggest surprises on your journey
so far?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well, I know that I wouldn't be having this conversation
with you right now if I was still on the
donut in Pete's diet. And so I think, like, while
eating healthy is so great to do on your own
and off camera, I can't help but know that the
home that I live in, the life that I live,
the people I get to touch every day, are because
of the health choices that I make each day. And
so even though, like, sure, I can go to the

(29:39):
grocery store and look at a donut and it still
lights up my brain with the pretty colors, it still
looks attractive, I still want to eat it kind of
thing when you look at it, I like can't do
it like no matter what, because I'm like people are
relying on being counting on me other than myself, Like
I want to do these things for me to be
healthy long term, but also like thinking about like the guilt,
like doing something that I'm saying that people should like

(30:00):
we can not do. So the biggest benefit for me
eating healthy is absolutely the life I get to live
now in terms of being on social media and helping people.
But aside from that, I would say definitely I feel
like I got my brain back once I stopped eating
as much processed foods. And what I mean by that is,
I remember one day I was going through the grocery
store with my husband and I didn't buy any of
the jump food and we get to the checkout aisle

(30:20):
and there's all the candy bars right there at the checkout,
and I go, do you ever get tempted to buy
one of these? He goes, what. I didn't even know
they were there, And it made me think about back
when I was younger, I was shown a video of
a soda where someone put a tooth inside of the
soda and the tooth came out completely broughtened in decayed
as a young person at that time, I thought, oh

(30:41):
my gosh, I'm never drinking soda again, but I'm still
gonna keep eating cake and pie because nobody showed me
a video about both ones. So I literally stopped drinking
soda when I was really young, and I had not
been a soda drink a drinker of my whole life.
And I don't even notice the ciga ale exists, like
when you have done something for such a long period
of time. I would just walk past the soda ail
and wuldn't even think twice about it. And so similarly,

(31:01):
he felt that way about all of the majority of
the lanes in the grocery store nowadays are filled with crackers, cookies,
microwavable meals, chips, all these things, right, so he doesn't
even see any of it. And I remember like thinking,
oh my gosh, this is going to be me one
day with my soda isle now being with the KitKat
bars at the checkout lane and being able to have
my brain back and not feel like I'm being manipulated
to make a choice about what I'm going to eat

(31:22):
based off of some company who has made great marketing advertisements,
knows which colors to put on the packaging, knows what
cute animal or cartoon character, knows how to make it
an affordable price, knows how to make the crunch on,
the taste, the texture of the flavor, of the whole
experience where you become addicted to it. And when I
finally eliminated process foods from my diet, it made me

(31:42):
feel like, oh my gosh, I have my brain back
and I get to decide what do I want to eat,
not what some company wants me to eat. And so
that was definitely the biggest benefit for me.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Can you share one of your success stories with one
of your clients that you've had so far?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Sure? So. I had a gentleman who he had one
hundred and fifty pounds to lose, and while hasn't completely
lost all the weight yet, I mean immediately within the
first month, lost thirty pounds and was like, oh man,
I'm not living weight fast enough, because that's the thing
people think, like you're supposed to live all your weight
like yesterday. But yeah, he has lost over one hundred
pounds and he got off his blood pressure medications and

(32:20):
has like that again, food freedom and feeling like he
can make the choice for himself and is no longer
needing to cope with anxiety dress with food. And that's
like a huge thing for many people is being able
to find that new outlet. Because while people may think
that food is, yes, something that we do to nourish
our bodies and to give us energy, there's also I

(32:40):
think many people nowadays aren't really eating because they're hungry.
A lot of them are new trains deprived, so they
likely do need the nutrition. But people also eat because
they're bored, they're stress, they're anxious, they are it's just
the habit. When they watch a movie, they have popcorn.
And so when people are able to reflect on why
are they doing the thing that they're doing, so, like
specifically with clients, I will tell them, especially for those
who are may be more addicted to sugar, that when

(33:02):
you reach for that cookie, you reach for the candy
jar at work, fine, eat it, enjoy it, because sometimes
like you beat yourself up about it afterwards, and it's like, well,
what was the point of that. You didn't even enjoy it?
And you beat yourself up about it and you know
it wasn't super healthy for you. But I will say, okay,
when you reach for that thing. Fine, eat it, but afterwards,
make a note in your journal or make a note
in your phone about why you had it. I had
it today because of social pressure, wanting to fit in. Okay,

(33:25):
next time, stressed, next time, bored, stressed, bored, stress, stress, stress,
social anxiety. Whatever the thing is, Oh, okay, The thing
you need to work on is your stress. It's not
actually getting rid of sugar. We need to find what
is that replacement thing for you when you have a
stressful moment. You're gonna take a walk, You're going to
call a friend, you're going to play a game, you're
going to do selling, whatever the thing is to occupy
you except for going to that food habit. So what's

(33:48):
the success I've seen from clients But the big take
aways of just losing weight, feeling great, getting off medications,
and having a strong relationship with themselves, but also their
families When they are no longer needing the food to
give them the join and they're now enjoying the experience
with their family.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
How important does journaling come into play with their health?
I know it's important for you, but how important do
you bring that up? If they don't do it, they're
inner dialogue. Do you bring that up? What's going on?
Let's get the whole body temple on track.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
It really depends on the person. So I'm never going
to push something on someone who I know that they're
not going to do it, or maybe they'll do it
for a week, But then if you're not going to
do it for a good period of time, if not forever,
then what's the point. I'm doing it for a week.
But I do have clients who I'll tell them, okay,
So yes, if you want a journal specifically for people
who have autoimmune conditions and they have a certain food,
they want a journal it just so they can know, Okay,
when I had eggs, how'd I feel afterwards? Owi's really gassy. Okay,

(34:40):
good to know. We'll just note it for next time
when you have eggs. Did it happen again? Or was
it the combination of aids in Turkey that created that
sneaky bomb? So sometimes the combinations of food play a role,
not necessarily the food itself journaling. If someone has an
autommune response to foods and there trying to figure out
what is that thing that's causing the issue, and then
otherwise journaling it's someone's eating foods, so they know that
they likely shouldn't be doing those things to reach their goals.

(35:01):
So then wanting to write down, Okay, why did I
do it this time? So I can keep a log
of what's the thing I'm going to actually start working on.
Oh it's my mental health, I'm going to work on.
Oh it's a self dog I'm going to start working on.
I personally have been incorporating a gratitude journal each morning
for the past probably four or five months now, and
I'll have to say, it's so much more impactful to
actually write it down versus think it in your mind
thinking oh, I'm grateful today because it's sunny and I'm

(35:23):
grateful for this. Actually taking the time to write it
down is like a completely different experience, and it makes you, truly,
for myself, stop pause and enjoy like the little things,
because oftentimes, like we go about our day and we
didn't even appreciate the fact that our water coming out
in our sink when it's cold is now warm and
the warmth and our hands feel so nice. Instead it's like,

(35:43):
oh it should be that way, it's not that it has.
You know, so many people don't have warm water. So
for me, if you litt look at my journal in
the morning when I wake up, I've been writing down
the things that I'm grateful, four or three things. The
one thing how I'm going to make today awesome. And
there's another prompt is in a book that I do,
and it just gives me the moment to pause and
be appreciative to the things that I have. And if

(36:04):
you were to read it, you would see they are
just really simple things. It's not like, oh, I got
a raise and I bought a brand new testlaw or
anything like that. It's usually like, I really people that
my blankets were so warmed last night.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Well, but that's all part of life and all part
of things that make us feel well.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
When I interviewed Darren Oldline, he mentioned that that's the
first thing he does when he wakes up to see journals,
before he takes the dogs out, before he has his chogaty.
It's journaling in the morning. He's done that four years
and it shows in how he presents himself and his writing.
You know, when you meet him, it's just there. It's
all there.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Not only have I been doing the gratitude journals specifically,
but my whole life ever since I was like eight
or seven something like that. I have journals and diaries
since I was young, but I actually like write about
my life and things because going again back to my grandmother,
if you've ever seen the notebook, In the notebook, she
reads her life story back and the husband reads the
life story back to her, and so similar. Ever since

(36:58):
I was young, I've journaled my life like just so
that way I don't forget anything that's happened, and as like,
I'll never be able to forget certain things that were
so in the moment, either happy or sad, and sometimes
with skew what actually happened later in life, like ten
years ago. You might think of a certain event that
was completely different ten years ago, but when you get
to read your journal, you're like, oh, that's what's really happened.

(37:18):
But it's just nice to have a log of everything.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
How does the meals discussion go with your clients? I mean,
because personally, I used to eat by the clock. Oh
it's eight o'clock, I'm gon eatreakfast even if I wasn't hungry.
And now I've gotten out of that. But and I
didn't like it when I was doing it. It's like
I'm eating, but I'm not really hungry. Oh, it's well,
time to eat lunch. I was still full from breakfast.

(37:42):
You know, how does that come into the discussion.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Depend on the person, Because some people, I can just say, cool,
eat until you're comfortably full, see you later, and they
can do a really good job like listening to the
body cheese. But I find like many people, especially for
my people, who have been very calorie deficient for long
periods of time, eating very little food, I may have
to say, sorry, you getta actually eat at certain times
and be consistent with it, even if you aren't hungry.

(38:06):
Because you're already telling me I'm being eight hundred calories,
I'm not losing weight and I feel ful. Okay, well,
I'm sorry. You're gonna start doing nine hundred for the
next two weeks, thousand the next two weeks, eleven hundred
the next two weeks, and slowly ramp up your food
and take because you will eventually get hungry for it.
So when I first started eating more of an animal
based diet, I heard everybody online eat until you're comfortably full. Cool.
Sounds simple. I'll do that, And it wasn't until I

(38:28):
posted my first YouTube video where I said this is
what I eat in a day, all excited, and somebody commented, no,
wonder why this squirrel's skinny. She's starving herself. She's only
eating twelve hundred calories. Now, at that time, I had
never tracked my calories or my macras. I didn't know
is that a lot? Is that a little? So I
started doing my research, doing more education, and I found that, yeah,
that's very very low, especially for someone who's metabolically like well,

(38:51):
who's young, metabolically at healthy and active, and so I
basically knew that when I was eating twelve hundred, I
was actually legit full. So I said, oh, okay, I'm
just gonna have an egg extra. So I started having
an egg extra. Okay cool, I'm gonna have another slice
of bacon extra cool. Got used to doing that. When
now I eat twenty five hundred calories, I have doubled
my food intake. I didn't gain any weight because I

(39:12):
did it so gradually took me like nine months, but
I finally got up there. Now. So like last summer,
I was like, okay, I'm gonna do like a baby
cut bikini tong hay. So I went from twenty five
hundred all the way down to a low twenty two hundred,
and I was starving. I would wake up and look,
my gosh, I'm so hungry. How did I ever eat
twelve hundred calories? And so someone right now might be
listening who's eating a small amount of food and they're thinking,

(39:32):
how am I ever going to eat more? And it's
like start small, just add like a small, little something,
and you might have to push it because, like you said,
some people they're just not hungry. They think I should
just listen to my body. Should this lit It just
feels like I'm going against what my body wants. My
body doesn't want more food. It's telling me a fool,
and your body doesn't need it. So you will eventually
get used to it. And I think like the more

(39:54):
fuel you can put in, the more new treds you
can put in that if you can maintain your weight
with more food, the healthier you'll be.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
If you hadn't made the health decision years ago and
hadn't gone to Hawaiian met Price, what do you think
your life would look like today?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do think that I would have more mental health issues.
I at the time was more depressed and anxious, and
I felt so unloved. And I know that now hindsight's
twenty twenty that I have to first love myself, but
I was looking so desperately for other people's approval, and
it's really hard to be truly happy and to truly
love yourself if you're not healthy. I think had a

(40:31):
lot of inflammation in my brain and I felt like, yeah,
if I didn't make changes with the health, I think
that I would just be a sadder person. And yes,
I would have had more weight if I would have
kept up my eating habit at that point, I would
have abslully had more weight to lose. But aside from
the weight, I think definitely would have been more simil
my mental health.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
And finally, Lily, what's one of the places or activities
that you never tire of experiencing?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Taveling. So by the time I was twenty, I had
gone to eighteen countries. I paid for all of them
by myself, working at Passy Robins thirty one Flavors ice
cream shop and working on a pizza shop. Saved my money,
went and traveled the world and it was absolutely amazing,
and had other plans for during COVID times. Those plans
got shut down, but we heard actually going to be
making some travel plans today. So I definitely love traveling,

(41:16):
seeing new culture's perspectives, people learning new languages, eating different
kinds of foods, and just having new experiences. Oh for me,
I absolutely love traveling. And after I finished traveling, ice
scrap book and that is like like super creative, like nerdy,
but super enjoyable thing that I like to do is
scrap book.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Lily Kane, thank you so much for coming on the
podcast or waking this possible.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Thank you so much. It was so nice to chat
with you, and I hopefully people found something that valuable
and at the minimum got a flyle.

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