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April 12, 2024 • 67 mins
The other half of CK & Carmen in the Morning joins us! Carmen talks about her childhood, growing up with a dad in the radio business, the trials and tribulations she went through for her career, plus more details from the morning show drama and meeting CK.
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This could give me fire podcast.What up? I'm Jizzo. That is
John Magic, and we are back. This is like one of those episodes
where it's almost a long time coming. She's a longtime coworker. And a
few episodes ago, we had cK from the B ninety five Morning show
and we talked about the show isbeing called c K and Carmen in the

(00:27):
Morning and today special guest the otherhost from c K and Carmen in the
Morning, Ladies and gentlemen, Carmenon the podcast long time coming for this
episode. No, seriously, Iwas like, really gonna put c K
before me? I'm just kidding.It just worked out out that way with
our scheduling. But we're glad thatyou're here. Obviously, we've known you

(00:50):
for years and we know a lotabout you, but we wanted to get
you on this podcast so that youcould tell your story that maybe people don't
know of. I heard his interviewhonestly, and I was like, Okay,
he left a little gap here forme. It's like, mentally,
you know, like we're still inradio, so I think mentally I could

(01:11):
see where he left spaces for meto fill in, almost like he didn't
want to overstep, yeah, whichI appreciate. Yeah, I can appreciate
that. But yeah, I heardhim tell his story and I was like,
Okay, there's a few things thathe may have left out some maybe
he didn't want to mention some mentionedthose today. Yeah, there was a
point in time where he became thenew morning show host and there was like
a lot going on during that timethat actually kind of magic was involved during

(01:34):
that time And we're going to getto that a little later because we want
to hear your side of it.But real quick, did you said you
heard the episode? Did you hearthe part what he said about you about
like you were like his favorite?Was it? Like oh yes, yes,
the best part of the morning showbeing here? Yeah, highlight is
it was that like an awe momentfor you, Like, oh no,

(01:56):
that was really sweet. But youknow what, he does a good job
at reminding me after he pisses meoff. That's when he throws it in
there, like hey, remember you'remy favorite, but you won't do it
that day, and it'll be liketwo days later after like we had a
little you know, argument or disagreement, then he'll be like, hey,
look for real I just want tolet you know I appreciate it. I'm
like, bro, you do thisevery time. What I like about doing
these episodes? You know, Giseosaid, Oh, we've known you for

(02:20):
years. We've interviewed so many ofour friends, but we end up learning
things we knew about. So I'minterested in the backstory because obviously it's been
years ago, so I kind ofwant to remember your stages of you starting
here. Yeah, so I well, wait, are you? Are you
originally from the valley that's usually wherewe're from Los Angeles? Yeah, okay,

(02:42):
yeah, so well what part Actually, I don't think I've ever known
that part Orange County? So basicallyI was raised born in East LA.
Then we moved to Orange County,which is like a Coobina, which is
like I would say, like Clovisand friends. Yeah, so I lived
in the Clovis of like the LAarea. People who don't know La,

(03:02):
you say La, but when whenyou're from LA, they'll be like,
that's not La. You don't don'tsay. It's like a whole discussion about
that, but we just say becausewe don't want to explain, you have
to explain it because it's so big. But yeah, exactly. So I
lived in Covina, not to beconfused with West Covina, which is another
thing. It's like West Covina,but our boss is from West Covina.

(03:22):
Did you guys know that? Ididn't either. I learned that. I
was like, what they happened?When Forever Steve, Oh he is I
didn't know that. He's crazy,right, He's like, you're from Covina.
He's like yeah. I was like, yeah, he's like, oh,
I'm from West Covina. I waslike, we don't get along.
It kind of is like that overthere. But yeah, So I lived
in Covina the majority of my childhoodand we like bounced around from that to

(03:45):
like Lapine. I have family inlike South Central and Bawen Park, which
I still go back to all thetime. But what's funny is that when
I moved out here, I waslike, oh my gosh, I'm gonna
leave my whole family. Most ofmy family has actually lived over here and
now there they're all here, Likeall my cousins I grew up with in
La are over here. And it'sbecause it's cheaper to live here, you
know what I'm saying. So whendid you get to the Central Valley,

(04:05):
like at what age or what.So the way it happened was my parents
moved to Singer in two thousand three. Okay, yeah, it was like
two thousand and three. So you'rein high school. I was doing high
school, and you know what,in high school years, you're just like,
man, you're rebellious because you're likeI want to graduate with my friends.

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And my dad is a radio hosttoo, who had us moving,
Like one time we lived in TexasApostle, Texas for like two years,
so like the moving thing sucks asa you know, a child of a
radio host that moved around, andso I hated that. I was like,
man, like, I'm not goingto move again, dad, even
though he brought us back to La, it was a different part of La.
So to me, I was like, man, I'm tired of like
the moving. I want to justfinish school with my classmates. Well,

(04:50):
when they moved out here, Iwas like, my sister still staying out
there, so can I just staywith her? And so I ended up
staying with her for a little bit. The literally the day I graduated,
like finished high school, is whenmy parents I literally walked and then we
jumped on the van and came backto Fresno and then I never went back,
Like that was it for me?So you were able to go back
to graduate in La. Oh,I didn't know that. So what I

(05:11):
did was I did. I dida cemeter when they moved me over here
by force, when they move overhere. I did a semester at Sanger
High. Yeah, that's what Ithought. I thought you were So you
only did Oh okay, I didn'tknow that either. All right, well,
I mean you still do bang it, So that's cool. You bang
it for one one semester and Iand I you know why I do because

(05:33):
I know Sanger apaches like they ridefor me. They do. That's why
I do, because I'm like,you know what, I it's cool that
I got a chance to experience it, even if it was just for a
semester. But it was like badbecause like back then, I don't know
if you guys remember, but LaFresno that was like a whole ribery thing,
especially when it came to gang banging. But obviously I'm not a gang

(05:54):
panger, you know what I'm saying, But it was still like you're from
La. That was a lot backwhen I started when I lived here.
So when I went to sanying herHi, that kind of was a vibe
like who is this new girl?She dressed different. I did dress very
different here. They had a lotof like the bot, the boots and
stuff, and that was the vibesover there because the man you said that

(06:15):
we know, and I was like, I was like, that's a that's
so different. So they would seeme with like my redbox, my nikes,
and honestly, while the girls werehating, a lot of the dudes
were like, oh that's cool.You got a little swag. You don't
brother. But I even had likelight up shoes, and I remember that

(06:35):
was like a conversation starter over herebecause even like in La it was really
a big thing to wear light upshoes. But I was so like in
my own style. I didn't carewhat wee bole said. I was a
little tomboy, and so that waslike a conversation starter. And then I
was able to meet some people thatwere out here anyway. From then on,
I was like when I finished thatlast semester because my cousin was at

(06:56):
the school, I was like,I know nobody here, Like, let
me just finish school in La soI did. I was able to go
move with my sister and I livedwith her until I finished school the final
semester. You mentioned that your dadwas in radio. You said it real
quick when you were living in La. Was he doing radio in La?
Yeah? Yeah, so he startedactually around my age when I started.
So I started around seventeen. Iwas eighteen, and my dad was around

(07:20):
that age when he started, butin Mexico. So when he well he
started radio in Mexico, yeah,oh wow. And you know what's crazy,
I actually got a chance to experiencethe radio life out there for like,
cause we would go on vacation allthe time. And one of the
times when I was I was alreadyshowing interest in radio, he was like,
you want to go see like whatmy station looked like? Crazy.

(07:41):
It's like a like a little dormroom. Oh small, small, so
crazy. And I was like,wow, this is this is where you
started. He's like, yeah,like this is it. And honestly,
when I did the whole I dida couple commercials. I was like,
I know nobody heard that. Turnsout the tourists and stuff, we're hearing
my commercials over there. Oh wow. Yeah, so it was like it
was a whole new experience, completelydifferent lifestyle obviously in Spanish, even radio

(08:03):
on Spanish is very different than yeahfor sure. Yeah. So basically he
moved from Mexico to take that,like you know, to move for the
dream over here. He went toLa got hired and was actually working with
some of the big dogs back then, and then worked his way up and
had his own gig. He wasfor a while running like things in La

(08:24):
for real. So before we getinto how you started your career radio,
I do want to go back toyour dad real quick, because you always
post this photo of your dad withSelenaia. Now did he actually like interview
her or something? And where wasthis at Solake's That was a big radio
station in La I think I thinkthey changed the name. I'm not sure

(08:46):
if it still is, but likeswas like I would say, like a
power one oh six in SPANISHA what'sthe translation of what was it? Like
Laake's. It's just the call letters, Oh, the call that was the
name of their station. Yeah,and it was a really big I know
you guys have heard gosh, what'shis name, uh Bioline? Yeah,

(09:07):
yeah, yes, So he wasmy dad's intern at some point. That's
not the world has changed crazy.So remember my dad like remembers like you
know, interning him and like it'scrazy to see like where he's at now.
But anyway, so when my dadmoved out here, he he was
like, I'm gonna give it ashot here and then it just it took
off for him, honestly, andit worked for him. And as you

(09:28):
know, the radio live is likecutthroat. So you have a job and
then you don't and then you switchor somebody else wants you, they buy
you out, and that's what happenedwith my dad. And he interviewed so
the just he interviewed her at thatstation, Yeah he did. Does he
have that interview? Has so muchof the audio he had in those tapes?

(09:48):
Yeah, yeah, I wish Iwould have saved my early years just
to hear it. Yeah. They'relike literal cassettes, Like oh yeah,
that's yeah. So he has alot of that. He's trying to like
go through his stuff to kind ofrelease it, but he hasn't done it
yet. Oh wow, to wherehe like goes through all his stuff to
release some of the he has someof the older interviews on like Legends in

(10:09):
Spanish World, and he has releasedthose, but the Selena one, I've
been telling her, I'm like,find that one. Yeah, that's crazy,
that's so big. Did he tellyou like about her or how it
was his experience with her or anythinglike that. No, she was like,
honestly, just how she looked inpictures and how she acted in videos,
That's how she was. Yeah,he was like, honestly, like
one of the most lighthearted people,Like you just feel the energy. But

(10:33):
also it was kind of like whereshe was in getting to her peak.
It wasn't the peak yet, buteven then, She's like, man,
she was just so cool to belike you felt it and everyone knew she
was about to be a superstar andsure enough. Yeah, during that childhood,
did you understand what your dad wasdoing? Did you know, like,
oh, my dad's quote unquote famous, Like, oh, it's so

(10:56):
crazy because I grew up in Laright, listening to Power one, I
six and listening to Big Boy andI every morning. It's so crazy,
Like this is the first time Iactually think about it. But every morning
he would take us to school,my dad and I'd be like, change
the station, change the station,and it just never clicked like he is

(11:16):
yeah, like I just it neverclicked to me, so like Chad,
change it, like I don't liketo listen to this, or like I
didn't want my friends to hear,you know, some wax station that I
didn't know about. And it justliterally never clicked to me that I was
telling him to change the station thatwas probably his station at the moment.
But no, so it never likethat never clicked to me. I even

(11:37):
went to cause he used to doa lot of hosting and like picco Ritta
where they have like big like Spanishcelebrations and they still to this day do
big stuff out there. And Iremember going to one of my dad's hosting
gigs and seeing all the people thereand I'm like, damn, like that's
kind of cool doing that. Stillwas like I don't get it, Like

(11:58):
what does he do? How doeshe do it? Because he never actually
like took us to be like hey, this is what I do. You
know, we never really got thator like he never really tried to involve
us, and he was just busy. He was so busy that because he
was the only money maker in myhousehold. So at that point, like
he never had time to be like, all right, come check this out

(12:18):
just for fun. The only timewe got to do that is when he
had gigs. Yeah, so that'swhen him on stage. So then I
would be like, oh, okay, that's cool. He gets to like
introduce the big people. Now mydad is big too, so yeah.
So that like never clicked on meuntil as I started getting older, I
was like, oh, like thisis kind of cool, like he does
his radio stuff. And then eventuallyI was like, oh, that's cool.

(12:41):
But again never because he never forcedit on us, kind of never
really wanted me to do it,to be honest. So when fast forward
to like when I was in highschool, say I was like a junior,
is when I realized, like,man, I really that would be
so cool to be on radio.I like Laala. Do you remember Laala
being in the radio back then?So I was like, man, I
really like Lalla. I loved listeningto Lesh's Liz, and I was like

(13:03):
this is so cool. But like, never in a million years did I
think I would actually do it,you know, because I was like,
what does it even take to dothat? Everyone still asked that, by
the way, like how do youget into radio. To this day,
I still don't know. We justlanded here. But honestly, he he,
I think living through him without realizingit. I saw the cool stuff
he was doing, Like he hada bunch of records laying around in our

(13:26):
living room. In his room,he had different microphones, he had headphones.
Seeing all the equipment now in pictures, I was like, that's crazy,
Like it was around me all thetime, and I never put the
two together. So junior year iswhen it kind of clicked, yea,
this might this could be something.Yeah, because you know why they came
to the station, having to thehigh school. That's a lot of the
stories are like that. Mine wasI was a freshman in college and THEO

(13:50):
from ninety two point th Oh mygod, yeah, and I was like,
oh shit, he's Asian. Yeah, yes, so I used to
love memor Tito. Yeah, yeah, yes, it was. I thought
it was just so funny. Ijust thought it sounded fun like a party.
Damn, Like that's so cool,like they could do that, and

(14:11):
when they would come it's not thesame, you know because obviously, like
radio is a different world compared tolike, so you know, we did
this all the time going to thehigh schools. You're not on the microphone
all the time, you're not doingall that stuff. So I was like,
this is kind of cool, butlike, like, what are they
actually doing radio? So I nevergot to actually see it, but in
that moment when they came and theywould give a shirt and we took pictures.
I think I still have pictures ofwhoever it was that came to the

(14:35):
school, I was like, damnthat that'd be cool if I could do
that. Yeah. Yeah, Inever realized I would actually do it though.
So then was it a situation whereyou just applied for the internship when
you heard about the station doing it, or how did that come about?
Does someone tell you? Yes?So I came to when I moved to
Fresno, I had it in mybio on MySpace. I was like,

(14:56):
I think I said something like Iwant to be on the radio or you
know, why would I even saythat. I don't know. I mean,
you're just trying to out there,I guess manifested I said I want
to be something like that, Iwant to be in radio, or I
want to I want to do withBig Boy and them do something like that
something. So weak. I don'teven know why, thinking back, I
even put that. But anyway,then I met everybody else here. So

(15:20):
I was an intern. I was, I mean at Redley College, right,
So I went straight to college.And then they're like, oh,
yeah, you know you could dolike a work experience class where basically you
get credits for working somewhere and you'redoing the job for free, but you're
getting credits. And then I hada lot of friends, Like maybe I
befriended you guys and didn't realize it. But Butters, remember Butters, He
found me on the page and waslike, hey, you know they did

(15:43):
do this here and we of course, right of course, it was real
fast. It was it was me, I think Cookie, it was a
couple of us. He remember well. During this time too, they both
would get girls to come and recordthe little spots or the what and stuff
like that. Yeah. Yeah,this is the part where I'm super interested,

(16:06):
maybe because it's so long ago,but I'm I'm excited to hear the
timeline because I don't remember any ofthis. Okay, So back to what
you're saying. So they invited youto come because that was a normal thing
we did. We were just pickrandom girls like you guys want to do
something? Yeah, because we neededvoiceovers and stuff. Okay, so that's
what you were doing first? Yes, So I came in here like literally

(16:30):
right where I'm sitting and they werelike, so, yeah, you just
we're going to tell you some thingsand you just say it back like and
I did, and we were likethis is so cool. Like me,
I think it was Cookie and someother people and I was like, Okay,
this is cool. And then Iwas like, how do you like
get into this? I was talkingto both Herb and Butters, like how
do you like do something like this? And they're like, oh, you're

(16:51):
just doing internship. Internships For thosewho don't know what it is anymore,
it's basically where you're here at thestation and helping the jocks or what work
experience, learning the learning the industry, and then you get credits at school
for doing it. So essentially thisis like your class class. Yeah yeah,
yeah, so you but there hasto be like a paper to fill

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out that you have to go andthen a manage your sign off on it
and all that. How to bringthat paperwork? I forgot about this process,
but yeah I had to bring thatthat paperwork to g Man and then
g Man, like you know,sees it and we'll see yeah, so
then I and then he gets thislike a whole class member that we introduced
all the intern I was, yeah, I was an intern at that time

(17:34):
too. When Carmen came in,I think I was a semester ahead of
her. And then as she camein, wait, were you already here?
Yeah? I already. Okay,that's crazy, yeah, because I
remember you coming on. Yeah,did you have so Jesse has a story
about getting interviewed, right. Didyou ever go through an interview process or
did you just kind of get hiredon? I don't remember. I don't

(17:55):
remember either, but from what mymemory is, we did an intervie you
processed, but we were going tobasically keep everyone because we needed bodies on
it. That that did happen wherethe they like they talked to you about
what you want and what are yourgoals and stuff, but it was collectively,
like it wasn't just one on one, so it was all you guys,
ald what do you guys want toflo And we thought in that moment,
we're like, oh shoot, sothey're gonna let go a couple of

(18:18):
yeah, yeah, okay, andI think maybe there was like two people
that didn't make it because I thinkthere was like a certain number that could
be done. I think like twelve. Yeah, it was. It was
a good amount. Yeah, that'sa big but they did have a cap.
And then you can only do youcan only intern for so long too,
So I was already on my secondsemester and then you were getting in
yeah, and then like some peopleleft and then they bring in like new
blood. So that was your start. So that's when I started, uh

(18:41):
with the internships, and I starteddoing the morning stuff. Oh so you
were doing the internship in the morning. Oh so with Greg assign day parts
and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,Like I was doing nights with Magic at
the time, Yeah, real quick. A lot of that was we would
see what everyone's schedule was. Also, G also kind of you know,

(19:03):
I could be wrong, but Ifeel like G was like I'm going to
take these people, and I'm like, okay, I'm vibing with I think
this person fits the night show.I think that's fair to say because I
think you wanted me on your showbecause I had was really good at the
boards at that time. And thenI think g had saw certain people that
either he wanted to make characters orthey would be funny, like playing a

(19:26):
little role. And that was backthen when they were doing challenging. Did
you do some of that stuff?Yes? I did? Did you really?
You know what's crazy? I literallystill on YouTube. I was like,
somebody find the password to that immediately. What did they have you do
in the mornings? Some crazy stuff, dude? So I like, I
got to eat a goldfish? Rememberthat, y'all did some crazy things.

(19:47):
Ship The one that sticks in myhead is the Josh Butters one getting shot.
Well, see that was before ourtime, so we won't hear okay,
So okay, so you did theI vaguely remember that. I think
that. So basically it was likean intern challenge and right, which is
like Intern challenge against the listener.So it's like, uh, if you

(20:07):
get this question right, then youdon't have to do it, but if
you get it wrong, then Karenhas to do this. Isn't that?
Yeah? Such a great It wasactually radio, it was a different time
at that time. I wish youcould still do that, honestly, because
that's just so fun. So Iremember like doing the Intern challenges and thinking
to myself, Oh, they didthis at power like this is so cool.

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Like now it's just kind of likethe hazing that gets you into radio.
Right. Yes. So when theyone of the challenges was I have
to They brought a goldfish like alive. It was swimming and I had to
fish it out with my hands andthrow it in my mouth and eat it
like on the radio. Though Idon't believe I did that. I swear
to god they fished the gold fishout your hand and I threw it in

(20:52):
my mouth and they're like, yougot to chew it. You got,
Yeah, I swear I couldn't.If I did, I still like,
oh my god, I did that. Sh wow. This is the stuff
that's not it is not allowed anymoreanymore. Yeah, it's because to this
day everyone's like, all ri p, nemo. What didn't I feel like,
oh, disgusting, like fucking disgustingthat shit shagging. I remember They're

(21:15):
like, all right, you got, we gotta hear you chew and I
was like I couldn't. I justit was so fucking disgusting. So I
don't finish it, right, andthen I have to show proof like I
swallowed it. I can't believe Iswallowed fish. I literally, well you
schewed it at that. I meanif you would have said, like I
just chugged it, like that's notso bad, you know. I mean
if I would do that now,well, you know, if you just

(21:37):
swallow it whole, it stays aliveand it's a while. Yeah. Yeah,
so so I did that. Anotherone of the challenges lose lose situation
that is it is and I didn'tcare, honestly. It was that or
roach. I think it was likea fat ass roach I was gonna eat,
and I was like, yeah,I definitely do the fish. And
then the other one I did wasI ate cat food that was so discussing

(22:02):
too. Or mayo. I atelike a spoonful of mayo like stuff like
that, obviously stuff that's gonna makeme gag, so that the listeners could
be like, oh, that's disgusting, you know, And yeah it worked.
How long were you doing the morningshow as an intern? So remember
or what's the story's you know,like the internship goes for like a semester,
semester? Yeah, yeah, soI did three semesters. Yeah,

(22:22):
so the longest you could do istwo semesters, yes, real quick.
As a personality here at the time, I hated that rule. It was
a dumb rule. It was becauseI always what I would always say is
if you find somebody good, likejust keep on to that person. And
GeV like, sorry, that's therules we would be getting rid of,

(22:44):
like good people. I mean Iwas one of them, and my three
semesters were up, and I waslike, all right, well I remember
that, and I remember you wouldsay. I was like, hella,
sad. You were even saying no, I'll stay, like, let me
do some more for free. Butyeah, they wouldn't let it. That's
where I was at too, honestly, situation with you, the same thing
that they tapped me out and theywere like, G's like, we literally

(23:06):
did the most that we can.But g was trying to hire me already
at that point. He was like, like, how can we keep her?
Real quick? Who was the who'sthe you know in the morning show
there's usually the female co host.Oh wow, okay, she did some
nasty ship too. She was inone time, was this that's nasty?

(23:26):
Tell you this? You really gotthis? I did. I didn't realize
how much stake fucked you up.They're like, all right, you gotta
smell this belly. I was like, Oh, this ain't going to be
that bad. Oh my god.I was like this definitely get in there.
Thank god. You never imagine younever had me do any of that
challenges bull shit. Like she usedto fart all the time on the mic.

(23:47):
I remember that, they said,I use now they used to save
the audio because I would go throughthe audio and they'd be like, fart
number one, fart number two,and I'd be like, why is this
in here? And they're real partsanyway, So when you say g was
trying to hire you, how doyou know, Like did he like yeah,
yeah, he was like, look, technically we're supposed to be tapped

(24:07):
out at three semesters. He's like, so we can't have you, say,
another semester or something like that,and then he actually I actually stayed
a little bit longer because he madeit seem like it was my trial run.
So that's why there was an exceptionof the rules. Oh no,
we were trying to find loopholes toall this stuff to keep the good people.
But I like how it was loopholesof a made up rule, Like

(24:32):
he literally could have just dropped therule. He could have just never mind,
we're not doing this anymore. Doit this way. And I guess
it's safe to say this too,because we don't do it anymore. But
I don't know if it was oneof YouTube, but a lot of the
interns, because you had to signthat paper to bring to your class.
Some of these they didn't even goto school. Oh yeah, I stopped.
They were good people that I wantedto keep here. So we would

(24:56):
like just printed paper and like,so my first mester was legit. And
then and I realized, like,man, ain't nobody checking, Like,
no one's checking, and so afterthat I was just faking it like I
would. I had that form andI would ring it like I pretend I
had the class, and then theywould just sign off on it. Yeah,
it literally was a sign off.Ain't that crazy? Like they never

(25:18):
called your teacher or anything like that. I did it right two times only
because of what the teacher said.He's like, so we heard you,
Like they would then hear me onthe radio and I was like, yeah,
so I'm still doing it. It'slike, oh that's cool, blah
blah. So they he honestly didn'tlike he took my word for it,
but I had toprain the paper becausehe's like, I know you're doing it

(25:38):
because I could hear you. Likethat's kind of cool, right too.
That didn't even click on me,Like, yeah, these people are listening
to me. So on the thirdone, I just dropped that. Yeah,
I dropped out of school because Iwas like, I have to work.
If I'm going to spend all thistime at the station and work for
free, I'll just fake the paperand then get money on the side working.
And I was working for Baking America, I was working for I worked

(26:03):
for Jack in a Box, CricketWireless. Yeah, so I was I
had all these side jobs, whichwas like my beginner jobs. While I
was able to do this because otherwisehow am I gonna get gas money?
How am I going to do Ineeded to have a job still, so
I was like, I can't doschool, internship and a job. So
school gotta go. Yeah, sowhat's what's next on the timeline? So
after that, he there was atrial, either she leaves or gets cut

(26:30):
I'm not sure. I don't rememberremember, I don't remember. And then
MO took over, right, Iremember that Mom is already doing weekends at
the time. Yeah, Mo wasalready an honored personal. She was an
intern before you, I believe yeoh yeah, I think she was my
first intern. Yeah, okay,so that's maybe that's why she got the

(26:52):
the next up, the next up. She was already okay, yes,
and then she sucked that up onher own. You remember that, she
was like into this day still talkingabout as you know, Mo was like
one of my best friends out here. So she fucked that up herself.
And I'll let her tell that story. And she's told it before, like
she was young and dumb, andshe's you know, admitted to that,
and she she's in a great placenow. But during that time, obviously

(27:15):
we all want to be on theradio. We all want to stick.
This is something we love to do. This is something you get to do
for fun and you get paid.So she was on. I remember I
did the fair a couple of timeswith her, and I was like,
oh, she seems cool, likeshe was like real cool people. But
we never clicked, like honestly,like I never really had a cool bond
because I was already so invested withthe morning show, and honestly, it

(27:37):
wasn't even like, oh, I'minvested with the morning show because like I'm
trying to get in because I wasyoung and dumb again on that in that
time. I just thought like itwas cool that they put me on the
radio. But at that time,I was like, I kind of want
to be cool with everybody else.Everybody else doing and I think I did
a couple of shows with Magic,but I was just the girl on the
side. I just like watched ory'all made me fucking or something some little

(28:00):
stuff like that on the night show. Yeah, because I remember being there
a couple of times because Cookie wason with you guys, so I remember,
and that's my other, like reallyreally close friend of mine, but
I remember that. So I diddo because they had to rote legally,
whoever made the year, we hadto rotate, so they're like, just

(28:21):
try to see you what this like. And then that's when I can tell
that Greg was trying to get meto get in a part time, because
I guess that's how you come up, go from inter into morning show.
So I think Moe was already kindof screwing up there or she knew she
was going to leave or something eventuallywhen she got cut. That's when they

(28:41):
were like, shit, what dowe do? By then, I'm already
doing nights, I mean overnights,and then I started doing they let go
of d Marquez. Yeah, sothat's when you're doing the Ladies Lounge,
right, that was kind of yourman. This is the part I don't
remember, so I started off theLadies Lounge. It's kind of a blur
on and say, if I'm beinghonest, but you were officially hired as
a part time as a part timebecause that was just a part because that

(29:04):
was a ten to midnight Yeah.Yeah, So again I had a job
already, my day job, andthen at night I would come to ten
to twelve and it was the LatestOunge, which is all the shelter everybody
in prison. Yeah, so let'stalk about that real quick, because you
get a lot of dedications, yeah, from women sending it out to their
men that were locked up, becausethat was a way that they could communicate

(29:26):
with them through dedications and men too, yeah, and vice versa. And
you would get a lot of jailmail on these dudes, right, I
remember that. Yeah, what wouldthey what would these letters to be saying
like thank you or like yeah,they would like they would draw pictures for
me. A lot of talented asspeople in prison. Why is it that
there's dudes in prison that could justhell a draw? You notice that they

(29:48):
take art classes. I think no, because I used to have like some
of my family members would be lockedup and I would write to them and
like they had friends in there thatwould draw stuff for me, and I'd
be like them, these dudes likeknow how to draw. So I remember,
I got a drawing of like myname. I got another drawing of
like, you know, when Iend my show, I say I'm out
and about like they did. Theydid a drawing with those words on it.

(30:11):
I was like, clearly they areloyal listeners. And then I would
get pictures of like, hey,on my next one, I'm going to
send you a picture blah blah blahblah, and sure enough the next picture
would come by. It was cool. Like, honestly, I felt bad
for a lot of them people becauseI know, like a lot of them
would tell me because they would call. I would take the collect calls,
which, by the way, I'msurprised never got a job for that.
Carmen, and I think they knewI was probably the only one taking these

(30:36):
calls, and so they would tellme. So basically they were only a
latch listen at a certain time,and they would choose to make the radio
be be Ony five or I thinkit was going up against like Art Laboul
or something like that, but theywould be they would know it's local.
They knew I would answer the calls, so they knew that I was local
when I would read their letters.So I think that's why they were like
they would fight to keep be Onyfive on in jail because the ladies down

(31:00):
I missed that. Honestly, Ireally did like it, but it's a
slower vibe for me. Yeah,definitely. I did it for a little
while too. It's rough in thatstage of your life being a part time
on her personality. A question thatJizo and I always ask the up and
comers when they start, even ourselves, is we used to emulate people that
we heard on the radio because itwas our first time on the radio at

(31:22):
that time. Being having your ownshow or shift, did you were you
trying to sound like somebody that youused to listen to or what was that
experience like having a show. Yeah, I honestly, this is funny.
I think we've had this conversation beforewith someone like other on air jocks,
but no, I never because Ididn't have someone out here to look up

(31:48):
to listen to, like on adaily basis that I could be like,
oh I want to sound like that. Yeah, And it was mostly dudes,
all you guys like Magic. Iwould hear Danny, you know,
so I would hear dudes talk,and obviously it's very different than me.
But like, I think the onlything I did was be a little bit
louder, more hype, you know. But when it came to the morning,

(32:12):
it's such a different vibe than hearingthe night show. And that's all
I could hear because obviously in themorning, I'm not listening to a morning
show, so that's all I couldhear is like dudes. But I never
really had the person that I couldbe like, oh, I'm gonna sound
like her. And I think,even to this day, I have a
very different sound than everybody else thatwe've had here, and I think it's
just because it's what I who Iam. Like people can I've had this

(32:37):
sold to me a lot that Isound like someone from la which I don't
know exactly what that sounds like,but I'm assuming it's someone like that's just
chill who. So in LA,when I would listen to Big Boy in
the morning and I would hear stufflike what radio sounds like out there,
it was like, yeah, likeso cool, so fun, loud and
exciting, yes, hype. SoI just knew. The only thing I

(32:58):
always knew to keep in mind wasto have that energy, to always have
the energy. And when I gotto the morning show, that's the one
thing that you know that was toldto me here that, like you just
I was to sound alive even whenyou're tired, like oh okay. And
so my dad one of the tipsthat he gave me growing up, when
I first started as an intern,he said, just as long as you're
on air smiling. He's like,when you're talking, it's going to sound

(33:20):
like you're in a good mood.It's like, even if you're not,
when you crack the mic, smileand talk. And that's that's always stuck
to me, and I was ableto I still do that to this day.
I think we all do. Right, I just kind of like branded
into us now. By the way, how when when you were interning that
whole beginning stage. What did yourdad think? Oh my gosh, So
I think I said this before.So I remember telling my dad, Hey,

(33:43):
I'm going to start an internship andhis face was like why. I
didn't see that coming. Yeah,he was like why. And I still
remember where I was at. Iwas in Sanger. We were he was
literally in the backyard, one footout one foot in cause I think he
was smoking at the time. Heused to smoke cigarettes, which he quit

(34:04):
one day to another probably when Iwent into radio. He's like, what
the fuck is happening here? SoI remember I was like, hey,
Dad, so I think I'm goingto get this internship and he's like why.
I was like, wait, whynot? And he's like I just
don't think it's something for you,Like I don't think you should. And
I was like why, Like,but you do it, You've done it
all your life, Like tell mewhat am I missing here? Like what
is not caol about it? He'slike, you have to have tough skin,

(34:27):
like you will get your feelings hurt, like because radio is not for
everybody. He's like, you haveto entertain people. Some people are going
to like you, some people arenot. I was like, dad,
dude, it's me like, youguys tease me my whole fucking life,
you and my siblings and my cousin'slike, this is me Like I'm cool.
He's like, you just have toknow if this is something you really
want to do, Like, youhave to know that you are going to

(34:50):
have times, so people are goingto disagree with you. Someone might call
you out. You may even thinkyou're going to be on the radio,
and then one day to another they'relike, you're no longer here with us.
You have to have tough skin,and I just don't want you to
go through that. You know.He's like, but if this is something
you want to do, he's like, I just don't. And then he's
like and the truth is, he'slike, this is more for men,
and it was. It was dominatedis the world was dominated. The entertainment

(35:12):
world was donated by men, specificallyfor radio. More men were on the
radio. And he's like, Ijust I don't know. You just have
to be careful and also be carefullike some men don't have good intentions.
And I was like, will youtell me what you really know? I
don't know what you're trying at thispoint. I have absolutely no idea what
this world is like? So whatwas he trying to tell me? When

(35:36):
I went in and when I hadmy moments, that's when I was like
so basically then, and it's nosecret you know that with women, it's
like, yes, it's one thingto be talented, but it's one thing
to be pretty and talented. Soit's like, if you're pretty and talented,
your looks are still always going toover like I guess, get you

(35:58):
wherever you want to go right tolook at your looks first before they look
at your actual talent. And soI did have that, but as you
know, like when I started,I was a tomboy too, Like I
literally have always been this way.I've never been boobs out all that,
never been that day, never never. So when I had like it's when
I went to the clubs and stuff. And that's something I learned in radio
as we would do the the nightclubsas interns go go dancing and stuff like

(36:22):
that. So that was all likeagain in that world. That's why I
don't do clubs anymore, I think, because I'm so I got it out
the way when it's young and learninghow radio, I was like, oh,
the DJs on the radio, arealso the DJs at the club Like
that's cool, and then you guyswould get us on the guest list,
remember that. So that's why Iwas like, oh, okay, so
this is a side that I thinkmy dad was telling me about. Was

(36:45):
like, more men are going tobe on me, and they're going to
recognize the girl that's on the radio. Oh So I think he knew that
and was like they're going to comefor you. Yes, yes, And
I think that's what he meant.But honestly, thankfully, I've never had
many crazy situations, but I didsee the competition in it being more men.

(37:05):
And if you look at our oldpictures from back in the day,
even like all of our group shots, I'm like the only girl. It
was always only one girl, unfortunately, but not I think it was more
so because Fresno was smaller back thenand it was harder to get more girls
to dominate in radio. So Idon't think it was a personal thing.
I honestly don't, but yeah,I got to see why my dad didn't
want me to do it eventually,though, honestly, like we never really

(37:28):
had talks anymore about it, Likewe never did. It was kind of
like awkward, like he knew Iwas doing it, but didn't know how
serious it was until like his coworkerswould be like, hey, your daughter
is on the radio. Yeah,they'd be like, oh, yeah,
she is, and then he realized, like, wait, more people are
starting to recognize You're trying to recognizeher, and then they're like, hey,
that's your daughter, and vice versa. For me, it would be

(37:49):
when I would meet you know,Spanish or Latin, you know, jocks
would be like, your dad isEndrique, you know, and so they
would they would trip out, andso eventually he was like, so,
yeah, you just got to makesure, you know, stick to what
you do, and like like henever actually gave me any like, I
think it was a little awkward forhim. I don't know. We really
didn't talk too much about it.Eventually, though, when I was in

(38:10):
in during the mornings and stuff,he was like, you got to be
responsible, like you can't go out, blah blah. Then he wanted me
to stay, you know, AndI think for a while he thought it
was going to be a little funstint. And to this day I've heard
him say this that he thought itwas gonna be a little stint and I
would get over it, but he'slike, she's actually surprised me, like
she's made a whole career of hercareer on it. And so now like

(38:31):
when he talks about me, likeI've seen him on Facebook. He won't
say it to me because you knowMexican dads, but he'll say it like
on social media. He'll be likeI never thought like she'd be this successful.
You know, I'm so proud ofher, blah blah blah, like
I never forced her to do radio. And then you see like all the
Mexican people and Latinos that would belike, ah, that is so cool.
He got it from you or shegot it from you. It just

(38:52):
runs in your blood like all thatstuff, And I like, I don't
want her to do it, buthe don't. He doesn't say that,
you know, but it's crazy tothink, like, yeah, I took
after him without really being pushed todo. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure
he's super proud of you. Yeahhe is, Honestly, I see it
on Facebook. The morning we wereat the Morning Show's story. Is there
anything that like significant how you gotthe job or yeah, so after MO

(39:16):
left, they did this whole thingwhere they were going to have one week
at a time with tryouts, tryouts. Do you remember that part? I
don't remember that, but yeah,it's something usually all radio stations do when
they're trying to find the new cohost. Even the Breakfast Club was recently
doing that. Yeah, like oneweek as a new host to try out

(39:37):
who can find they find chemistry.So that's what was going on. Did
that, and then on my week, they already were used to me because
I was doing the in the morning. Do you remember any of the other
girls because I don't. I don'tChristina, That's what I was gonna say.
You remember Christina? Oh, okay, she did. I think she
did it for either maybe the wholeweek I do. Okay, yeah,

(40:00):
you guys do I know it soundsfamiliar now, yeah, now that you're
saying where she's at now, butshe Yeah, she was around a lot
in like the club's scene and stuff. Anyway, she did it I think
for like a week. I don'tknow, But when it was my turn,
it was like, honestly day one, I think they knew, like
this shit is comfortable. It's easy. Yeah, because I think with me,

(40:21):
I was I've always been pretty wittyand quick with the comebacks. Yeah.
Yeah, I wasn't too much ofa girly girl, so when Dre
would crack jokes, I would crackhim back. You know, I think
you're somebody that just like you getalong easy with guys. I think it's
I've always felt that way with you. I've always felt comfortable talking to you
like you were a guy essentially.So I think that was just like a

(40:43):
natural fit for you to be withtwo guys, and you guys can all
be comfortable during that time and doubtthat. I mean, that was a
time of itself you Dre and andg I mean, what was that that
era like for you? It wasso dope, honestly, like I to
this day, I will say,because I haven't had anything crazy different,
but it's all I knew in thatmoment, right, It's all I knew.

(41:06):
And it was fun, Like Iremember just having so much fun doing
it. The only thing that suckswas to pay and as you know,
like it's like you have to workharder to make more, but back then
you really didn't have an option.It was like this is all we have
and this is what you got towork with. And so as much as

(41:27):
I loved it, I was like, damn, I don't know if this
could pay the bills, you know. So eventually I was brought into like
a contract and that's when I learned, Oh, what is what is the
contract? Like what I do withthis? And they're like, oh,
so basically like you're stuck with themorning show for a minute, and this
is that. So I was like, oh, I didn't know that,
Like I didn't know anything about contracts, but Mat didn't walk me through that,
and so yeah. I eventually wentto tell my dad, I'm like,

(41:47):
this is something that they do,and he was like, yeah,
this is like a normal thing.So I was like, okay, cool.
So on once I did the firstweek, they brought me in for
a second week. That's how Iknew most likely. And then yeah,
and you kept kind of telling melike pretty sure, but we're just trying
to see And I think during thattime they were probably working the behind the
scenes magic Yeah that's true. Doyeah, because we want to keep her,

(42:09):
but right now we can pay herbecause we still have this contract to
pay out whatever. So I thinkthat that those early years of you being
on the morning show, which atthe time was called the Juice Crew.
Yeah, that's best. That's definitelylike when you became like a star and
you were becoming recognizable our year andeverybody was liking you. And and but

(42:30):
let's let's fast forward a little bittoo, when Greg and Dre leave.
Yeah, talk about that situation becauseGreg leaves BE ninety five and he eventually
goes over to Q ninety seven andtakes Drey with him and they start their
own morning show at the rival station, and you're left here by yourself.

(42:54):
Talk about that whole situation, howyou felt, like, what it was
like, just some context real quick. Them three as a trio was a
successful morning show for years. Yeah, dominant. We did it for man,
honestly, I think almost ten eightyears maybe, Yeah, Okay,
And then what Giso says, theyboth leave, they leave, So they

(43:16):
didn't both leave, So that's thething. It looked like that outside looking
in, I think people thought,oh, they just both left, because
remember Greg got cut first, sothat was one. Then it was just
me and Dre. But I knewsomething was happening because Dray was just acting
a little funky, but not towardsme, more so, like he was

(43:37):
nervous because he didn't know. He'slike, wait a minute, are we
next blah blah blah. Yeah,And there was times where he tried to
give me a heads up to havecertain conversations with me, to just be
like, hey, I don't knowwhat's gonna happen. At that point.
He didn't say anything about where hewas gonna go or Greg was gonna go,
but he did mention like, hey, maybe you start thinking. He

(43:57):
gave me like those pointers, like, hey, maybe you start thinking.
In case it's one of us,you do this. So he was kind
of giving me a pointed is,but never really was telling me. I'm
working on a plan too to leavethis and do that. Never knew that,
but he did. I do givehim credit for trying to give me
like, hey, I know youdon't know much about what's going on,
but just have a plan of whatyou can do next. And I was

(44:19):
like, okay, STU didn't getit, but I was like, what
can I do? And I justgot to continue to do what I'm doing.
So when he leaves the day before, he did a whole good bye
thing and it sounded like a goodbyeand you didn't know him, and I
didn't know He's like, I appreciateall the years, blah blah blah,
and I'm thinking myself, are yougoing somewhere? Like what the fuck?

(44:42):
It just seemed weird. Mind you, I was running the board, I
was running the morning show at thatpoint because it was just me and him
now and it just felt weird.Sure enough, he gets walked out.
Wow, So I was like,oh wait that more like so he did
a little goodbye on the air,then went to go try to be like,
hey, I'm going to get going, but you know, they don't
give you a two week grace,so yeah, wow, so I think

(45:05):
and I was like, damn,they don't even realize, like he did
a whole goodbye and you don't getto do that in radio, you know.
So, but he didn't do it. It was very respectful, but
more so like say station, yeah, yeah, And that's the reason why
they don't let any entertainers be ableto have a like know that this is
your last day. You can't knowit was your last day, and so

(45:27):
it felt that way. It allmade sense to me after and then obviously
they they reached out to me andyou know, had a talk. It
was like nothing personal business, business, and at that point, I'm still
young and in the game, likewait, what, so what happens with
me? I'm like, fuck y'all, Like I'm mad at y'all for like
leaving me. Did they try torecruit you? Yeah? Kind of like

(45:47):
almost like look, this is goingto be a good look. We could
just do what we're doing already overhere. And in my mind I was
like, this is such a bigcorporation here, why would I leave,
you know? And I was like, you know, I'm just gonna take
my chains and stay here. Asmuch as I love both of them they
did. I love them so muchand still do like love to them.
It was a special part of mylife growing up and being in this industry.

(46:08):
So I it was like I wastorn. I was like, damn,
am I making the right choice?But I just in my heart I
knew this was such a bigger positionfor me, and I was like,
wait, I get to actually bethe main one. I get to be
myself. I get to change therole because you know, I was a
character for so long and even thoughyes it was me, I still had
a persona to put one. SoI knew that the dynamic of the morning

(46:31):
show is going to change, obviouslybecause I was by myself, but I
didn't know what was coming. Soyou at this point you had no idea
what was coming, like if youwere going to have a team, how
many people were going to be onyour team. It was just in the
meantime, Carmen, you're doing themorning show by yourself. I was like,
so just just go as it is. Yeah, as you were doing
every day, just coming in themorning and you just run everything. Yeah,

(46:51):
was the mind was the mindset foryou? I think you kind of
just said it, but was it? Did they make it sound like,
no, it's going to be yourshow, the Carmen Morning Show. No,
okay. They did say though thatthere is there's moves being made,
and you're going to have a partnersoon. You just don't know who it
is. And I was like,oh, okay, a partner of partners

(47:13):
and they're like, well, wedon't know that yet. Because I think
according to what c K said,that Andre was actually supposed to be part
of the plan, right, itwas going to be you Andre and c
K. I believe, well itwas supposed to be I think that's what
c K believes, and that's that'swhat it was led to believe, you
know. But I think originally fromwhat I had heard during that time that

(47:37):
G left and it was just goingto be me and Dre. We were
told there was going to be athird person, but we didn't know if
it was going to be a dudeor a girl. They didn't know who
they were working with. They wanteda trio, but they did they were
going to keep a trio for sure, So Dre was scared. I've never
said this beore because it's like somethingthat he had told me obviously in private,

(47:59):
but I'm gonna just say now,because he was afraid that it was
going to be another dude, andif it was going to be another dude,
it'd be a competition. And respectfully, I get that, like as
a man like you kind of dohave to see it that way, because
now the dude that he was usedto being with all the time, riding
with had his back. All thatwas gone, So now he was like

(48:19):
he was starting over by himself.So I think he was afraid and didn't
really say that, but his actionsdid. He was probably afraid of like
what was to come, and Ithink he didn't feel safe. He felt
like I might be next. Maybethey're just test running me, which again
why I understand him leaving, andI don't fault him for that. So
I think he thought that that mightbe another dude. He was like,

(48:42):
if they had another girl, likeI remember him telling me these things like
if they had another girl, likeit will make it work, blah blah.
But I don't know if it's anotherdude. But he never said like
I'm scared what if it is anotherdude. It is just his actions would
say that, So I think that'swhat it was, and I think he
felt more secure. Honestly, hedid what was best for him and the
moment, money, his career,his family. That's what he had to
do. So he did that.When he left, though, I was

(49:06):
like, wait, I thought yousaid you were cool, like you said
like you were oquay, you wereokay because you were going to see who
was gonna come. But I thinkby then somebody out had already recruited him
and was like, hey, ifyou guys come over here, you know.
So that's why they end up takingoff. But so still I didn't
know who was gonna come, soI had like a certain interest. I
think Killa did it for a whilewith me. They would throwing the interests

(49:28):
that at that point the interns werelike draining out. We have that many
interns, so like, oh,we're just gonna have him jump on with
you. I was like, okay, cool. It was literally every day
was something different. So I didit for like two weeks by myself.
I was the most fucking stress I'veever been, Like reading a whole morning
show, the type of material youhad to come up with all that by
yourself. Yeah, I remember youduring that time. You just felt very

(49:52):
uneasy, like you didn't know whatwas going to happen with the show.
You didn't know like what direction wasgoing to happen. You just know that
you were there, and you werethere by yourself at the time and in
the background. Like Magic was likekind of in the equation of coming back
and maybe being part of the morningshow. And c K was like in
the equation and then he eventually becamec K. And how was that brought

(50:14):
to you? We ended up meetingat a Starbucks, I think it was.
That was his story. Yeah,that Starbucks for some reason was the
meet up every time, because honestlyit was though, so I'm pretty sure,
but I think it wasn't this one. I think it was a different
one, like a further one.So Tony Banks at the time rest in
peace Hunt thinks, but at thattime told me like this, this is

(50:37):
what we're trying to do, andI was like he again didn't tell me
who it was. He was like, but you know, we think it'd
be a good fit. So we'rejust working on that. We just want
you to know, like, fefeel secure, You're okay here, Like
we're not trying to get rid ofyou. We're just trying to figure out
what we're going to do. Soat that point I was like, okay,
maybe I am secure, but alsopart of me was like, hmm,

(50:58):
you could be telling me, butit did. It was more comforting
knowing like, oh, I thinkTony has my best interest and like I
really was. I really loved Tonyback then, like we had a really
good relationship, so I thought likehe was being genuine. So turns out
he was because when they brought inc K, I was like, who
the fuck is it. I've neverseen him in my life, Yeah,

(51:20):
never heard of him, none ofthat, and he was like, yeah,
I've heard of you. I waslike, oh, cool, like
you know, but you know me, I'm Hella welcoming. You met him
at Starbucks? Yeah, okay,I think we went to eat. Okay,
yeah, I think we went toeat after that. Real quick,
just for funds, I want toget to that story of when you guys
meet for the first time before theyintroduced you to him, be open about

(51:43):
this. Was there anyone that youwanted in your mind? Oh, because
during that time, I was like, I think kill a b would fit.
Like during that time, was thereanyone like, Oh I wish it
could be this guy. I wishWho were you thinking? Well, I
thought of you, honestly for alittle bit. Well, the thing is,
we were talking at that time.You were telling me what was going

(52:04):
on because I was already living backhome. Yes, okay, so go
ahead. So I thought, like, dude, like save me, you
know, like back over here,like at least somebody you know, right,
Yes, yes, And that's likeanother whole other part that we didn't
even get to. But yeah,like I I already had a good relationship
with Magic because I was an internat some point and I watched him and
I know he wrote people the wrongway, but really like not with me,

(52:24):
like I seen, I seen somepeople, but he was very Magic's
always been respectful but also a businessman, like get to work and like no,
no bullshit. But so I alwaysfelt comfortable with Magic, So I
was like, Magic could be one, like, you know, maybe there's
something there. And I think Iwas trying to talk to you about that,
like hey, are you down tothat? And then I also had

(52:46):
other people in mind, like whoI don't want to say. I don't
want to say because they're still outhere doing stuff. But Gizzo two,
Remember I was like, come tothe mornings. Yes, they good.
I didn't see I didn't to wakeup that early due who would that be?

(53:07):
Like people already know we're like reallyfucking good friends, like it would
just work and yeah, like yousaid, he was like no, I'm
cool, but all right, sookay. Yeah, so after that it
was ok I was like, okay, so who's this c K guy?
And then I find out he dida Q a little bit, like oh
you were that guy that was onfor like a little bit. It literally

(53:28):
felt like a short couple of monthsor something like that. Did he say
that? He said it was justlike a few months, four months.
Okay, So I may have heardhim twice. By the way. By
the way, I'm in the sameboat as you. Gizzo knew his history
about I never heard of this.Yeah before I was like, who is
he? Yeah, I didn't know. Then he was like, yeah I
did. I did Q for litveld. Oh oh clearly it didn't say nobody's

(53:52):
mine. You know what I thoughthe was p K. Oh, yeah,
we'll get because they had a morningshow called Playhouse and then literally I
for that, they had CK.So I think people like got confused with
that. So I at that pointhad the average ears and that was thinking,
oh, it must be PK.But then yeah, anyway, so
I was like, hey, youknow, fuck it, let's just figure

(54:13):
it out. Let's see. Sowe talked about his history. He's like,
I did you know I've done radio. I was like, oh,
okay, so he gets it.I was like, okay, cool.
I was like, well, thenlet's do this, you know, like,
let's figure it out. So,like day one, it was cool,
but like we didn't click. Ithink it was a struggle for you
guys for a while. I doremember that. I remember like some of
the frustrations. I remember hearing andyou know. I mean, it takes

(54:34):
a while to get chemistry with somebody, especially when you're putting two people that's
never met each other and then youjust throw them in together and be like,
all right, go make a morningshot out of it. So at
that, So when this was happening, when they started their show, I
started my morning show The Riverside,and Carmen and I would call each other
venting, venting, but also like, okay, well, because you were

(54:55):
in the same boat, right,you were working with I've never done a
morning show before, so I'm like, what do you guys do? Okay,
well, this is what we're doing. How are you guys doing it?
Even the bits were like okay,we're gonna do this bit. I
think Tony Bek is gonna give youguys the same bit. So yeah,
her and I communicated throughout this wholetime, and I do remember the struggle,
of course on this side, butI was going through it over there,

(55:19):
both drowning what the fuck is happeninghere? And I, honestly I'm
not a confrontational person, but withafter a certain time, like I was
like whoa, Like this is ac K and Carmen show leg and I
started I felt I think I felt, and he maybe didn't mean it this
way, but I felt like hewas trying to just take over, and

(55:39):
I was like, saw the fuckdown. I remember this guy here,
you know, And it was thattype of feeling I got right and eventually,
man like, we had a lotof different conversations where I was like
I would tell him like, hey, dude, you're fucking up. Get
us together, and it was startingto piss me off. And then I
had to like literally take a stepback and be like all right, like
I got to work with him.He's got to work with me. I

(56:01):
can't be bickering because it's going toshow on air. And for a time
I felt like it did. Ifelt like people too many people were telling
me like, oh no, ifyou click with them, because they knew
me, and they would know myvoice and my tone and my energy.
And I was like, damn,complete strangers are telling me this, so
it's got to show. So Iwas like, let me fucking refresh,

(56:22):
like let me take a step backand realize, Okay, this is it.
So I had a conversation with him. I was like, look,
we're on the same team. Ifelt like, maybe you were trying to
take over in the beginning, andthat's not what you were trying to do.
And so he apologized for some ofthe stuff that he said. I
apologize for my reactions. I thinkwe both had valid points to feel a

(56:44):
certain way, but more so mebecause I was like, this is my
baby, Like you're coming into myhouse, like we should be working on
this together. I never thought aboutmyself, Honestly, I always thought like
we should be working on this together, exactly. So when I would feel
he was going a different way andI didn't know about it, I was
like, what the fuck tell meabout it. It's like a whole relationship.

(57:05):
Literally, it's like a relationship.And I was like, let's communicate,
let's communicate. And men suck atcommunicating period, So I knew like
this is gonna happen with him.But honestly, over time he became someone
who I could easily tell like,dude, you're fucking up, or like
so now I didn't have to holdback. I could just tell him how
I feel off air, we hashit out, and then we cool have

(57:27):
agree to disagree moments where I'll belike, well that's just not how I
feel, dude. Whatever, wewon't talk, and then he'll come around
and be like, hey, Ijust want to apologize. Let's just hear
what you have to say. Let'stry it your way. And when he
started doing that, I was like, that's all. I wanted a fair
fucking shop for us to be ableto figure sit out together. This can't
be everything you say is gonna go. Just how I bring you ideas.

(57:49):
Bring the ideas to me so thatwe can both talk it out. Because
when you say we're gonna do thisand not tell me about it, it
makes me feel like you're just notconsidering me. And guess what, I
was already a fucking feet email inthis thing for a while, trying to
put my own stamp on it.Yeah, so I was like, the
one one thing I said that wastold to me with this show is that

(58:09):
I would have time to flourish andfigure out how to move myself on air.
I want to be able to dothat while still having you as a
brother as a coworker that I reallyfuck with. But if because of all
the knowledge you have in radio andthe stuff that you've done, you're coming
into this too strong, like youthink you know everything, and really we're

(58:30):
both trying to figure this shit out. So once we had those conversations,
it got better. Over the years, the energy changed. We were able
to crack jokes because the thing is, I'm already a jokester and obviously he
is too, but we weren't showingthat side because there was so much tensions.
And eventually the comments went from likeKarmen does not like this dude,

(58:52):
like and I could see the chatteringremember messages. It was a rough start.
Yeah, they're like you don't likethem. We don't like them either,
And I was like that's not fair, Like, you know, like
this is a new dude, LikeI want him to get his fair shot
too. But like, so oncewe got our communication down, then you
started seeing people are like, yeah, you guys are funny. I like

(59:14):
you guys together, you guys arecool. You click, and then the
rest is history. But that tooka minute. Yeah, I remember that.
I mean not to mention, youguys were going up against two people
that were like in this game forso long that people loved the Greg and
Dre and those became your direct competitors. There was a lot of back and
forth with you guys, and thenyou guys eventually figured it out, and

(59:35):
you guys continue to be the numberone morning show now. So it's just
it's good that you guys like camearound because I do remember that being a
rough start. It was hard.And honestly, the other thing that I
think people don't realize is what youjust mentioned. These are the people that
I loved that I now have toshit on like I have way because before
me, it was them too thateveryone knew. So when we were split,

(59:57):
oh my gosh, there were somany fans, And that's other part
I don't want to discredit or likedisregard. When we broke up, the
city took it pretty hard, likea city. It was like, are
you team Greg Andre? Are youteam Carmen? Remember that? Yes?
And I remember like on the sidetalking to listeners and stuff and telling them
like, hey, there's no animositythere, like we respectfully are going our

(01:00:21):
separate ways. They're like, yeah, but it's just not the same.
And then they're trying to bring someonewho's not you. And then when I
would have like an intern or somethingwith me on one of the days,
we'd be like and then you're tryingto replace them, Like, oh,
like it's not we're just trying tofigure it out. Yeah. Yeah,
And then for many years. Honestly, it took years for fans or listeners
to still come up and say,would you ever go? Would you ever

(01:00:42):
go with them? Because they wantedus back so bad? And I get
it because I felt that same love. Now imagine having that love and still
have to go into it every morningthinking like I have to be better than
them? What can I do tobe entertaining still and just be myself?
You know? So over some timeit took it. It was actually weird
when we would come across each otherbecause even though it was people that I

(01:01:02):
loved, like literally family, weknew each other so well. It had
to we had to completely cut tiesso that we can work. So they
had to figure it out and Ihad to figure it out. So once
we cut ties, we had thatwe build that distance. I think it
was more comfortable for me because thenI was like, Okay, so now
Cek is someone I really have tolike fall on like I have. Me

(01:01:22):
and him have to be able tolean on each other, and I couldn't
do that for a while because Iwas still hurt about my boys leaving.
So once we figured that out thenthen it was cool and yeah, no
beef is just radio beef. Youknow, man, Well what a storyline.
And I'll echo what Jizo said.After all that trials and tribulations,

(01:01:44):
you guys continue to be the numberone morning show. Something that something that
you know, I want to bringup to you that we brought up in
c K's episode is I feel likewe have this team now that kind of
everyone gets their roles and we're alllike in such a good place in the
building. Yeah. So yeah,and you know that that took a while

(01:02:06):
too, because the other part ofit is, remember we have pictures of
like the Morning Show with Magic likeit was Magic. I was part of
it, the mixer. Yeah yeah, but technically it was like the Juice
crew was Magic, c K andCarmen it was. It was I forget
about that. We did a photoshoot and everything. Well that's why it

(01:02:28):
popped up on my timeline recently,not the timeline Facebook memories, and I
was like, oh, ship,I forgot about that. Guys. Were
they were trying to brand you guysalmost like a trio. Yeah yeah,
and that that didn't work out.But honestly, it didn't work out for
the better because like you went onto do better things and things that you
had to do. Staying with mesaying with us, and I think we're,

(01:02:52):
like you said, where we're at. We sound like a cohesive if
with everybody playing their roles now.And the thing is too it's like I
thought for sure, like by now, Magic would have kids, you know
what I'm saying. I don't knowwhat happened there soon, but that's the
thing. Okay, but see,you've been in radio for so long,
right, and it's so different fromwomen and men, so y'all know i'd

(01:03:14):
be having kids right. So withme, it's like to this day ago.
The crazy thing about that is likewith women, we have to completely
detached. So every time I hada child, I was like, oh
fuck, like it's gonna take forme. And you guys don't know this,
but like my second pregnancy, Itried so hard to hide it.
I hate it for a while untilone day I remember, yeah, And

(01:03:37):
then one day Greg's like, gir, I see you wobbling. Yeah yeah.
So then eventually I, you know, reveal that information. I was
like, yeah, because that's thething. I was the woman in the
relationship in this career, so Ihave to step out for you. If
you guys have kids, changes onyour end. So it's I was like,
every time I had a child,I was like, I'm about to

(01:03:59):
lose my job. You know thisis it doesn't look good on me.
And it wasn't because I was likethe female that was out here. I
always dressed nicely because I wasn't.But you know, I did have a
lot of male fans, so theywere like, I don't know if you
want to be sharing that information.I was like, hey, you know
what it is? What is anyway? So every time I had a child,
I was like, damn, myjob is on the line. And
yeah, no, it didn't affectit. But if it was one of

(01:04:21):
you guys having kids, which Idon't know if you guys want to have
kids. I know jizz I've knowGizzl for so long. I know he's
never but I think he might changehis mind as well. I can now
because I gotta vasect me. Soyeah, I never told you that.
Apparently she doesn't listen to listen tothe podcast, but yeah, I got
yeah, yeah, yeah, backin January. Yeah, this is January.

(01:04:43):
Yeah, this is episode so thatyou can stop saying I think one
of these days will have a kidthat it was for you. Yeah,
that was my reasoning, And what'syour reasoning, So Carmelo will stop asking
me questions. Oh my god,Well that's reversible. Yeah, I'm not
going to do that now, Magic, You've always wanted kids, you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have. I'mgonna have some. I don't know

(01:05:04):
when, but like, is itin the near future, Sure, I
don't, I don't. Your lifeis going to change, just so you
know, you're gonna be one ofthose old dads. Huh. Yeah.
No radio you know, even thoughlike for men like you guys can just
stay on the radio, it's stillgonna change the way you talk on the
radio, trust me everything. I'mnot really on the radio anymore though,

(01:05:27):
but you are, you are,And even that this lifestyle is completely gonna
change. Yeah, I mean,kids for sure change your life, which
is why I didn't want to haveit, because I ain't trying to change
my life. Yeah, I reallytry to get just little have kids there
you go anyway, Yeah, soI ended up having the thing is too.
The other thing I didn't mentioned thatthis I don't want to go into
detail. But I also went todomestic violence domestic violence relationship during the morning

(01:05:49):
show, So imagine we have todo a part two on this. It's
getting long, like having having togo through domestic violence on the morning show
and like still put on a faceand I went through all of that and
nobody ever knew until I talked aboutit, and I talked about it like
way years after, like I remember, you know, you remember that.
Yeah, I talked about it after. But it's different man women in radio.

(01:06:10):
If there's one thing I can sayis like I wish there was a
lot more, and there has been. Shit has changed I started, but
like, damn, it is abig difference for sure. I Mean the
last thing I'll say, Carmen isone of those on their talents that I'm
a favorite of because we talk aboutnewcomers that try to do radio and they

(01:06:31):
try to sound radio. Something thatI always liked about when first hearing Carmen
is she doesn't sound like she's onthe radio. N She's one of the
better ones that just sounds like herself. Yeah, like when I when I
tune into you, I'm just like, that's just that's how we hear her.
That's how you talk. You knowwhat I'm saying. And I've always
said that about you. I thinkyou're like one of the most talented people

(01:06:51):
that I've been around and in thisbuilding. And uh, that's because you
guys know me, like you knowme, know me? Yeah, yeah,
like I know you're not when you'retalking to how you're talking on the
radio, like, oh, she'snot lying about anything, that's just who
she is. I appreciate, butyou know I did when we hear newcomers
now come in, I do hearmyself, but O, can I tell
you something? I don't take thatlike like, oh, they're trying to

(01:07:12):
be me. I take that asI'm that girl that I wish I had
when I was coming in. I'veheard it be taken some of my stuff,
and I take it more as likethat's compliment. Compliment as you should.
Man, well continued success. Letthem know where they could listen to
you and follow you. Yes,you can find me at Carmen on Air

(01:07:32):
on everything, And thank you guysso much. Man, Honestly, I
do need a prone to. Ineed this therapeutic. There there you go,
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