November 10, 2025 • 26 mins
Bloomberg Report. Rob Sanders, Kenton County Commonwealth Attorney, discusses crime. Monday`s with Marty Brennaman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why I was saying good morning once more to Geni
Cervetti from the Bloomberg newsroom in New York City. Commodity
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
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and seventy points from Bloomberg. Gina Cervetti on news radio
seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Love getting this guy on the air. Rob Sanders, the
prosecutor over in Kenton County. Love the fact that there's
so many other things he does in his life. He's
on the board of directors of the Northern Kentucky Drugs
Strike Force. Hecky's been All and Tear Firefighter and Fort
Mitchell for better than twenty years. He teaches over at
NKU and the Chase College of Law, and it is
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also a former member of the board of directors of
the Family Nurturing Center, a child abuse prevention, intervention and
counseling agency down the trail in Florence. Rob, on short notice.
I can't thank you enough for joining us. Hope you're
well on this Monday morning, Sir.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Tom, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. You know,
all the years that I've been doing interviews with my
friends on Wow, this is the very first time I've
ever been on the Morning Ship.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You're kidding, Mike McConnell.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
No, I listened to Mike McConnell for years, listen to
you almost every day on my way back and forth
to the gym on my way to work in the morning.
But this is the first time I've ever been on
the morning show.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well lucky, yes, So thank you for joining us. Look
a number of questions here, and you're asked about this
stuff all the time, but I have to tell you,
for the life of me. Rob Sanders at Kenton County
Commonwealth Attorney, I see stories like this story today, and
I don't know if you saw it in the Cincinnati Enquirer.
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There's this guy hanging out in the women's restroom at
a bar and over the Rhine. His name is Malik
Rahab's thirty years old. He has been previously convicted eight
times for either grabbing women in public, trying to film them,
and compromising places. Security caught this guy, but his track
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record going back, voyeurism, all kinds of things, goes back
to when he was a teenager. This is back when
he was twelve years old, then thirteen, then fourteen, domestic
violence at fifty. You know what I'm getting at here? Okay,
How in the world does a judge in Hamilton County,
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And I know you cannot speak for municipal judge Mike Peck,
but based on your experience, how do guys like this
rob continue to get out over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's baffling, Tom.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, we see it in northern Kentucky on a
regular basis, where we get somebody wander across the river
and commit some kind of crime and we look up
their criminal history and see that what in the world's
going on? This guy's done the same crime multiple times,
dozens of times, right across the river in Ohio, and
yet they're still out of jail. They're not serving a
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prison sentence, they're out on bond. You name it, we've
had it, we see it on a regular basis, we
really don't have nearly the time. I won't say our
judges are perfect, but I tell you what, our judges
set times than they do in Ohio. And I think
some of it is experienced that most of our judges
in northern Kentucky have been around a good long time.
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But I think a lot of it also has to
do with the fact that we have nonpartisan judicial elections.
So when you go to voting a judges race in Kentucky,
you don't get to see if they're a Republican, Orday Democrat.
And if you go in you pull straight tickets, you
don't hit the judicial race at all, So you have
to go in and vote to the judge himself. If
there's one thing that I've noticed watching across the River
of Late it's that the party affiliation is starting to
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really make a difference when it comes to the judicial elections.
And you all have just had some experience to some
well respected, some very good judges that are getting voted
out of office, not because they've done anything wrong, not
because they haven't been serving the public, but because they
were just registered with the wrong party. And there's no
more ours winning elections in Hamilton County last time I checked.
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And it's not to say that having an R next
to your name makes you a perfect judge. I know
we've had plenty of Republican judges in Hamilton County doing
the exact same thing as the Democrat. So it's not
a fail safe to have an R behind your name.
But I think a lot of times we were seeing
more conservative, more community oriented, and more public safety oriented
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decisions out of those judges that were registered Republican. But
you're just not getting it anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Hey, I'm curious, did in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Is
that something that was passed by the legislature where judges
run without a political affiliation next to their name when
you go to the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, it's been that way as long as I can remember, Tom,
certainly longer than I've had a law license. They've just
always been non partisan elections. In fact, there's a lot
of offices that you would think would be nonpartisan, Like
my position is come along attorney, or county clerk or
circuit court clerk. You know, positions that don't seem like
they would have or should have a political affiliation or
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designation to them.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But yet they do.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But judge is the only type of race. I shouldn't
say the only I think there's some city council races
and things like that that are nonpartisan, but the party
affiliation certainly comes into play more often. In fact, it
was just law in Kentucky that up until a few
years ago, judicial candidates weren't even allowed to tell anybody
what their affiliation was. That has been changed by the
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Supreme Court that said that there's a freedom of speech
right amongst the candidates to at least tell people if
they want to tell people what their party affiliation is.
But up until a few years ago, they were banned
from making any statements that might give someone the impression
of what their party affiliation was and how they were
registered to vote.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Help me with something here, just to I think a
lot of people you know this is one oh one
stuff here. As a prosecutor, obviously you don't prosecute a
case that you don't think you can win. I think
that's pretty much common knowledge. But are you sitting down
with judges on a regular basis, semi regular basis, never
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at all? You're not allowed to do it not to
talk about a specific case, but to just talk about
some of these things in general, about you know, serial
offenders in whatever crime, multiple crimes, it may be being
let out with a very small bond. Do you have
those conversations with judges.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What we can and we do on occasion have policy discussions.
I'll say, we're not allowed to talk about individual cases
as you're mentioned, but we can talk in generalities like
what kinds of bonds should drug traffickers get as opposed
to drug possessors, or what kind of bonds should we
be setting for felons who are found in possession of firearms. Yes,
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certain classifications of crime that we know that we recognize
are the kinds of crimes that make a difference between
having a safe community and a dangerous community and making
sure the appropriate bonds are set for the people that
are out there committing the vast majority of the crime,
because is all common knowledge, I think is a very
small percentage of the population commits a vast majority of
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the crimes. So if we can set the appropriate bond
for the drug traffickers, for the felons with guns, well,
that keeps down the numbers of other types of crimes
that we get, you know, the number of assaults, the
number of robberies, the number of burglaries, all those other
crimes that come along with the felons that have guns,
or when drug traffickers start butting heads and fighting over territory,
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you're fighting over their drugs. Things like that, you get
a much more violent crime. But if you can nip
it in the bud and keep those dangerous people incarcerated
while they're awaiting trial, then it keeps down the total
amount of crime that the community has to deal with,
makes it for a much safer community in which to live,
work and raise a family.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I got about a minute left here, Rob Sanders, and
I'm just curious from a philosophical basis, from a ten
thousand foot view, we read a lot about these quote
unquote rogue prosecutors who are not quote unquote doing their job,
to be quite honest with you, in a lot of
major cities across America, and then we read about judges
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every single day that are letting people out. What's the
bigger problem the prosecutors or the judges?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I think it depends where. Okay, if you're in
a jurisdiction that has a rogue prosecutor, you're gonna have
a much bigger problem because the prosecutor has influence and
discretion in every single case, whereas a judge, typically, unless
you're in a very rural jurisdiction where there's only one judge,
in most jurisdictions, there's going to be multiple judges. Sometimes
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in a larger jurisdiction like Hamilton County, there's going to
be dozens of judges. So any one individual judge is
going to have a limited impact on public safety overall.
But if you have a rogue prosecutor, that can change
at the fabric of an entire community. If you have
somebody that's not doing their job, that's not putting public
safety first, that can make your entire community in an unsafe,
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unpleasant place to live.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, Rob Sanders, I cannot thank you enough for taking
the time to join us. I'm thrilled that this is
the first time you've been on the Morning Show, and
we will have to do it again sometime very very soon.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, Tom, I'd love that anytime, just give me a call.
I'd love to talk more and all your listeners. I
just hope that the next time elections come up that
they pay a lot closer attention to those judicial races,
because it doesn't matter where you live or where you work.
If you have unsafe judges in your community, that can
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really make difficult dangerous for everybody. And I just don't
think enough people pay attention to it, because if you
don't have a law license in your law abiding citizen,
you normally don't have to deal with the judges. But
they're importing racist. So thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's been a pleasure, my pleasure, and thank you. Have
a great rest of your day.
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Speaker 1 (12:43):
Alrighty, it is eight forty on the nose here on
the Morning Show seven hundred WLW, and we do it
every single Monday, Mondays with Marty brenhaman the Hall of Famer.
Are you still down in North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, very Cole down here this morning?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Boy, Well it ain't like here, brother, It's no insideways.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is it really? Yell? My god?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, we got got about a half inch to an
inch last night and calling for anywhere from half an
inch to two inches today. And then on Wednesday. It's
going to be Sonny in fifty five.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
That's try that time a year, pod.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it is, it is. Hey, I got to ask you.
I made the comment earlier this morning, and I truly
believe this and this story with the Cleveland Indians pitchers
involving gamblers from where both of them are from down
in the Dominican Republic. And for those that have not
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heard this story, it has to do with in game
prop bets, so you can actually believe it or not.
I'm not a gambler, one of the few vices I
don't have. But you can actually gamble on what the
speed is going to be on the next pitch. You
can bet is it going to be a fastball a
breaking ball? These guys MLB and their investigators noticed a
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lot of heavy prop betting when they were on the mouth,
and now both of them are staring down the barrel
at maybe fifty years in prison. I think, Dad, we
are looking at the very tip of the proverbial iceberg
when it comes to these players in regardless of sports
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and gambling. You agree or disagree, I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Agree one hundred percent, and I think that you know
when the decision was made individually and collectively that covered
all boundaries and across lines of dealing with different professional sports.
And I guess you really can throw college ball in
there too, that this eventually is going to take place,
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And so I don't know why anybody would be surprised.
It's all to do with the almighty dollar that it
makes this right in the eyes of those who make
the decision in the professional sports world. I agree. I
think it's just the tip of the iceberg. I think
we can expect more of it to come down the road.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know, it makes you wonder. The easiest thing in
the world to say, and I've been guilty of saying it,
so I'm not pointing fingers at anybody else. The easiest
thing in the world to say is that, hey, look,
professional sports got in bed with these gambling companies and
taking all their money and sponsorships and so on and
so forth. But you know, the more than more I
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think about it, Dad, I don't think that that in
and of itself has anything to do with an individual
who decides, hey, look, I'm gonna throw a fastball instead
of a breaking ball because somebody I know is involved
in prop betting. Do you see the separation of it too,
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or do you think that they are intertwined.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, you can make a strong argument for either side. Uh.
I don't know. I wish I'm like you. I'm not
a gambler. I don't I don't even know how to
play poker, So I'm legitimately a guy that would never
ever find it appealing or addictive or anything of that nature.
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I don't know. This is this is this is something
that all the sports now are going to have to
figure out a way to work around or work workout,
because all of a sudden, it seems like we're having
we're having We're inundated, all of a sudden over a
short period of time. Uh. The the NBA. I hate
to say NBA because every time I read it says
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NBA scandal, And it's not an NBA scandal. It's involving
guys that were involved with the NBA as a player,
and in one case Charns develops a player and a coach.
So I don't know. I I think it's a very delicate,
sensitive situation. Uh. That debt, in most cases deals with
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the credibility of the fan as far as with sport
that they follow religiously up or follow all of them.
That's the bottom line. Are you going to lose your
credibility as the NBA or Major League Baseball in the NFL.
You're in deep trouble. You're in deep, deep trouble. And
I think that's the thing that has to be first
and foremost in the minds of everybody who wants to
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deal with this situation and make it go away.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You know, I don't want to get overly Freudian on
this whole thing, but you and I both know. The
first thing a lot of people say is or ask, is, hey, look,
why in the world was some dude making millions, if
not tens of millions of dollars as is the case
with one of the players in the NBA doz or
you know, why would these guys you know, care about
making fifty five hundred there, two hundred grand there? But
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you and I both know, I mean, we know people
like this where you can have and make all the
money in the world and it's never going to be enough.
So if you can stick another thousand, ten thousand, one
hundred thousand million in your pocket, human nature in a
lot of cases takes over and that's what people do.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, I'm always reminded of what my dear dear friend
of many years ago, who has since passed away, Sparky Anderson,
used to say. His line was how much money is enough?
How much? How much? How much is enough for you?
You know? Is this guy the limit? Especially if you're
going to go to some type of illegality to put
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more money in your pocket. I agree to me that
in and of itself could be somewhat addictive. You know
I'm making If you're an NBA guy, I say you're
making twelve thirteen million dollars a year and that's not
enough and you're ruining potentially your entire life that will
affect you, your family, those around you, just because you
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think you can get away and make a lot more
money in doing it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What a shift, gearest of the Reds For a minute here,
Nick Crawl came out last week after it was announced
that the Reds were going to non tender three players
Barlow Hayes suitor. There's a chance any two three could
be back at a lesser price tag. The bigger headline
is that the Reds, despite a significant increase in attendance,
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are not going to increase where they are from a
team salary right around one hundred and twenty one hundred
and twenty five million dollars. Were you at all surprised
by those comments.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, because I think the kind contradicts itself. I saw
where Nick said the payroll is going to essentially be
close to what it was is past year. Then they
start slicing people off, and you know they also have
to deal with guys that are going to go to arbitration.
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A lot of that money is going to be offset
by having it pay them even though they've let these
other guys hit the road. I don't know, it's going
to be interesting if they're going to operate on essentially
the same payroll they had in twenty twenty five. That
may inhibit their desires or abilities to address firmly address
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the need that this team has in the off season.
And I still maintain as I have for the last
two years, that they need to go out and get
a guy that has a track record. Don't bring me
some guy that's done it two years in a row.
Give me a guy who's had a track record of three,
four years, five years, that's driven in runs and hit
home runs, and stick him in the middle of the
batting order. It's going to be interesting to see how
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this whole thing plays out, because I don't think this
team is too far away from being very, very good,
but that very very good is going to be predicated
on making the right decisions this off season. And you
know you now tickle the fancy of your died in
the Wolf fans because they've seen you. Albeit only two
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games made the postseason. Nevertheless, they are expecting more in
twenty twenty six. And now the pressure is on for
the front office, Nit Crawl, Brad Metter, everybody else involved
ownership who has to approve the payroll increase if there
is one to do better in this coming season than
they did this past season.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Red's Hall of Fame voting opens up, and I think
the headline name on that whole thing has to be
Brandon Phillips. It's not to say that there aren't others
there that are not viable options or deserving of being there,
but I don't know how you feel. In the time
that I was with the Reds, not nearly as long
as you. I can't think of a guy who is
more of a gamer than Brandon.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Phillips one hundred and fifty thousand percent and I don't
I agree with you. You look at the list of players,
and all of them you can make a strong argument
for being in the Redgs Hall of Fame. That guy
is absolutely number one. If we operate on the assumb
that Joe Morgan is the greatest second basement of the
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history of this franchise. Brandon Phillips is number two, and
there are people that would They're just one of the
great things about baseball. You can always come up with
something to argue about. I don't think there's any question
that he should be in the Hall of Fame. He
now on top of his ability to play, he was
a great fan favorite. He responded to that fan favorite
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by giving it back to them. He just is everything
that screams I'm a Reds Hall of Famer, and hopefully
when the voting takes place, that will be born out.
I think he needs to be in the Hall of
Fame for his fans, for the club, for the club,
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for the history of the club, and also for himself.
He's got to embrace it. I know he left here
and they weren't under the best of terms. At the
same time, I think you need to turn the page
on that. If you're Brandon Phillips and realize that this
club I think wants you be in the Hall of
Fame based on the career you had, and so I
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hope this thing ends up with a happy ending because
I think he's the one guy as you say, that
jumps out at you when you see the list of
those that fans will be voting for.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Now, all right, I want to shift gears. You were
down at your alma mater, at least for Friday night.
You drove in Friday. You drove out Friday night after
watching North Carolina put a thumping in the second half
on Kansas in a college basketball game. In the time
you had in Chapel Hill. Did you have any time
at all? Yay or nay. There are rumors you did,
but I'm not so sure. I didn't get a chance
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to see it, even though I was in the same town.
Did you get together at all with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I did not, But I can say with all sense
of assuredness that you did because I've got a picture
on my phone. Yes, you know you got a little
you got a little fan of you.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know I got to tell you the reason I
did it, and I about it before I posted it,
but at the end of the day, the way I
looked at it was this, whether he is still an
active coach or whether the day comes whenever that might be.
And after spending time with him on Friday, I think
he is in it for the long haul at North Carolina.
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I really do. But time will tell. But you're talking
about Dad, the greatest coach in the history of football.
I love football, and he's the greatest coach of all time.
So I got a picture with a guy. What tell's
wrong with that? Well, I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I don't do that. It's like, you know, I went
to the basketball game Friday night, Friday afternoon or Friday morning.
I went to the Dean Dome and sat in on
the shoot around by the Kansas Shayhawks because Bill self
and I have a relationship and spent time with him
and talk with him. And I didn't say, hey, somebody
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take this picture of me and Bill self.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We're not talking about great I mean, he's a great coach,
but I mean he's not He's not the greatest coach.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, I would I would argue about that. I would say, yeah,
he is the greatest coach of all time because he
had Tom Brady. What the hell do you do when
when Brady left? Okay, what do you do with Brady?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
There are a lot of guys with good quarterbacks who
don't win a damn thing After Brady left, the winning
is coach in the history of the NFL. The only
guy with more wins in Belichick never won a Super
Bowl with Dan Marino. Never.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I'm just not a big fan of Bill Belichick. I think, yeah,
he better win.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He's gonna be ay you that he's gonna win. Yeah,
he's gonna I got him again. This wins hanging out
with him again.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, they will have Steve Belichick as a head Coacheck
he leaves, I'm so excited. I'm about to school with anticipation.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They've won two in a row.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Look out, Yeah, I know they beat the little sisters
of the poor both times. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You got to cut the guy a little slack. I mean,
come on, you've been sticking up for you for four years.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Ay, my mega's girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The head coach after he leaves, well, neh, you know,
well it would improve the look of the building.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I can promise you.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All right, Well, have great rest of your day.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
All right man, I love you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I love you too, I'll see you later.
Why I was saying good morning once more to Geni
Cervetti from the Bloomberg newsroom in New York City. Commodity
traders warning about higher utility bills as forecasters are seeing
evidence and we're seeing it here in Cincinnati of a
frigid winter to come. Gina.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's right, Tom, No one has to tell you that
winter has already arrived, even though the calendar clearly says
it still fall. But now this the odds of extreme
cold this winter in the US are climbing. According to meteorologists,
they see signs emerging that the polar vortex that girdle
of winds around the Arctic could weaken and allow frigid
air to spill southward, and commodity traders are warning that
(00:39):
will lead to even higher power and natural gas prices.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Tom, Italian pasta brands could be scarce in the United
States by early next year.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, this could be some tough news for spaghetti lovers
out there. According to the Wall Street Journal, you may
not be able to find your favorite Italian pasta on
store shelves soon. The journal reports that Italy's big pasta
exporters point to steep anti dumping and import tariffs of
one hundred and seven percent on their brands, and the
journal says the Italian pasta makers say that's just too
(01:12):
high to keep doing business in the US, So the
report says this could start to happen by January.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay. Meanwhile, the futures for this morning, Gina, well they.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Look pretty good here, Tom, looks like Wall Street's headed
for a hire open. The mood is getting a boost
this morning from news on a deal to end the shutdown.
Dow futures are up one seventy six, SMP futures up
sixty two, and those Nasdaq futures are up three hundred
and seventy points from Bloomberg. Gina Cervetti on news radio
seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Love getting this guy on the air. Rob Sanders, the
prosecutor over in Kenton County. Love the fact that there's
so many other things he does in his life. He's
on the board of directors of the Northern Kentucky Drugs
Strike Force. Hecky's been All and Tear Firefighter and Fort
Mitchell for better than twenty years. He teaches over at
NKU and the Chase College of Law, and it is
(02:08):
also a former member of the board of directors of
the Family Nurturing Center, a child abuse prevention, intervention and
counseling agency down the trail in Florence. Rob, on short notice.
I can't thank you enough for joining us. Hope you're
well on this Monday morning, Sir.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Tom, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. You know,
all the years that I've been doing interviews with my
friends on Wow, this is the very first time I've
ever been on the Morning Ship.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You're kidding, Mike McConnell.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
No, I listened to Mike McConnell for years, listen to
you almost every day on my way back and forth
to the gym on my way to work in the morning.
But this is the first time I've ever been on
the morning show.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well lucky, yes, So thank you for joining us. Look
a number of questions here, and you're asked about this
stuff all the time, but I have to tell you,
for the life of me. Rob Sanders at Kenton County
Commonwealth Attorney, I see stories like this story today, and
I don't know if you saw it in the Cincinnati Enquirer.
(03:08):
There's this guy hanging out in the women's restroom at
a bar and over the Rhine. His name is Malik
Rahab's thirty years old. He has been previously convicted eight
times for either grabbing women in public, trying to film them,
and compromising places. Security caught this guy, but his track
(03:32):
record going back, voyeurism, all kinds of things, goes back
to when he was a teenager. This is back when
he was twelve years old, then thirteen, then fourteen, domestic
violence at fifty. You know what I'm getting at here? Okay,
How in the world does a judge in Hamilton County,
(03:52):
And I know you cannot speak for municipal judge Mike Peck,
but based on your experience, how do guys like this
rob continue to get out over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's baffling, Tom.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, we see it in northern Kentucky on a
regular basis, where we get somebody wander across the river
and commit some kind of crime and we look up
their criminal history and see that what in the world's
going on? This guy's done the same crime multiple times,
dozens of times, right across the river in Ohio, and
yet they're still out of jail. They're not serving a
(04:28):
prison sentence, they're out on bond. You name it, we've
had it, we see it on a regular basis, we
really don't have nearly the time. I won't say our
judges are perfect, but I tell you what, our judges
set times than they do in Ohio. And I think
some of it is experienced that most of our judges
in northern Kentucky have been around a good long time.
(04:50):
But I think a lot of it also has to
do with the fact that we have nonpartisan judicial elections.
So when you go to voting a judges race in Kentucky,
you don't get to see if they're a Republican, Orday Democrat.
And if you go in you pull straight tickets, you
don't hit the judicial race at all, So you have
to go in and vote to the judge himself. If
there's one thing that I've noticed watching across the River
of Late it's that the party affiliation is starting to
(05:13):
really make a difference when it comes to the judicial elections.
And you all have just had some experience to some
well respected, some very good judges that are getting voted
out of office, not because they've done anything wrong, not
because they haven't been serving the public, but because they
were just registered with the wrong party. And there's no
more ours winning elections in Hamilton County last time I checked.
(05:36):
And it's not to say that having an R next
to your name makes you a perfect judge. I know
we've had plenty of Republican judges in Hamilton County doing
the exact same thing as the Democrat. So it's not
a fail safe to have an R behind your name.
But I think a lot of times we were seeing
more conservative, more community oriented, and more public safety oriented
(05:58):
decisions out of those judges that were registered Republican. But
you're just not getting it anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Hey, I'm curious, did in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Is
that something that was passed by the legislature where judges
run without a political affiliation next to their name when
you go to the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, it's been that way as long as I can remember, Tom,
certainly longer than I've had a law license. They've just
always been non partisan elections. In fact, there's a lot
of offices that you would think would be nonpartisan, Like
my position is come along attorney, or county clerk or
circuit court clerk. You know, positions that don't seem like
they would have or should have a political affiliation or
(06:39):
designation to them.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But yet they do.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But judge is the only type of race. I shouldn't
say the only I think there's some city council races
and things like that that are nonpartisan, but the party
affiliation certainly comes into play more often. In fact, it
was just law in Kentucky that up until a few
years ago, judicial candidates weren't even allowed to tell anybody
what their affiliation was. That has been changed by the
(07:04):
Supreme Court that said that there's a freedom of speech
right amongst the candidates to at least tell people if
they want to tell people what their party affiliation is.
But up until a few years ago, they were banned
from making any statements that might give someone the impression
of what their party affiliation was and how they were
registered to vote.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Help me with something here, just to I think a
lot of people you know this is one oh one
stuff here. As a prosecutor, obviously you don't prosecute a
case that you don't think you can win. I think
that's pretty much common knowledge. But are you sitting down
with judges on a regular basis, semi regular basis, never
(07:43):
at all? You're not allowed to do it not to
talk about a specific case, but to just talk about
some of these things in general, about you know, serial
offenders in whatever crime, multiple crimes, it may be being
let out with a very small bond. Do you have
those conversations with judges.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What we can and we do on occasion have policy discussions.
I'll say, we're not allowed to talk about individual cases
as you're mentioned, but we can talk in generalities like
what kinds of bonds should drug traffickers get as opposed
to drug possessors, or what kind of bonds should we
be setting for felons who are found in possession of firearms. Yes,
(08:27):
certain classifications of crime that we know that we recognize
are the kinds of crimes that make a difference between
having a safe community and a dangerous community and making
sure the appropriate bonds are set for the people that
are out there committing the vast majority of the crime,
because is all common knowledge, I think is a very
small percentage of the population commits a vast majority of
(08:48):
the crimes. So if we can set the appropriate bond
for the drug traffickers, for the felons with guns, well,
that keeps down the numbers of other types of crimes
that we get, you know, the number of assaults, the
number of robberies, the number of burglaries, all those other
crimes that come along with the felons that have guns,
or when drug traffickers start butting heads and fighting over territory,
(09:09):
you're fighting over their drugs. Things like that, you get
a much more violent crime. But if you can nip
it in the bud and keep those dangerous people incarcerated
while they're awaiting trial, then it keeps down the total
amount of crime that the community has to deal with,
makes it for a much safer community in which to live,
work and raise a family.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I got about a minute left here, Rob Sanders, and
I'm just curious from a philosophical basis, from a ten
thousand foot view, we read a lot about these quote
unquote rogue prosecutors who are not quote unquote doing their job,
to be quite honest with you, in a lot of
major cities across America, and then we read about judges
(09:49):
every single day that are letting people out. What's the
bigger problem the prosecutors or the judges?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I think it depends where. Okay, if you're in
a jurisdiction that has a rogue prosecutor, you're gonna have
a much bigger problem because the prosecutor has influence and
discretion in every single case, whereas a judge, typically, unless
you're in a very rural jurisdiction where there's only one judge,
in most jurisdictions, there's going to be multiple judges. Sometimes
(10:21):
in a larger jurisdiction like Hamilton County, there's going to
be dozens of judges. So any one individual judge is
going to have a limited impact on public safety overall.
But if you have a rogue prosecutor, that can change
at the fabric of an entire community. If you have
somebody that's not doing their job, that's not putting public
safety first, that can make your entire community in an unsafe,
(10:43):
unpleasant place to live.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, Rob Sanders, I cannot thank you enough for taking
the time to join us. I'm thrilled that this is
the first time you've been on the Morning Show, and
we will have to do it again sometime very very soon.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, Tom, I'd love that anytime, just give me a call.
I'd love to talk more and all your listeners. I
just hope that the next time elections come up that
they pay a lot closer attention to those judicial races,
because it doesn't matter where you live or where you work.
If you have unsafe judges in your community, that can
(11:16):
really make difficult dangerous for everybody. And I just don't
think enough people pay attention to it, because if you
don't have a law license in your law abiding citizen,
you normally don't have to deal with the judges. But
they're importing racist. So thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's been a pleasure, my pleasure, and thank you. Have
a great rest of your day.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
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Speaker 1 (12:43):
Alrighty, it is eight forty on the nose here on
the Morning Show seven hundred WLW, and we do it
every single Monday, Mondays with Marty brenhaman the Hall of Famer.
Are you still down in North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, very Cole down here this morning?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Boy, Well it ain't like here, brother, It's no insideways.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is it really? Yell? My god?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, we got got about a half inch to an
inch last night and calling for anywhere from half an
inch to two inches today. And then on Wednesday. It's
going to be Sonny in fifty five.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
That's try that time a year, pod.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it is, it is. Hey, I got to ask you.
I made the comment earlier this morning, and I truly
believe this and this story with the Cleveland Indians pitchers
involving gamblers from where both of them are from down
in the Dominican Republic. And for those that have not
(13:42):
heard this story, it has to do with in game
prop bets, so you can actually believe it or not.
I'm not a gambler, one of the few vices I
don't have. But you can actually gamble on what the
speed is going to be on the next pitch. You
can bet is it going to be a fastball a
breaking ball? These guys MLB and their investigators noticed a
(14:03):
lot of heavy prop betting when they were on the mouth,
and now both of them are staring down the barrel
at maybe fifty years in prison. I think, Dad, we
are looking at the very tip of the proverbial iceberg
when it comes to these players in regardless of sports
(14:23):
and gambling. You agree or disagree, I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Agree one hundred percent, and I think that you know
when the decision was made individually and collectively that covered
all boundaries and across lines of dealing with different professional sports.
And I guess you really can throw college ball in
there too, that this eventually is going to take place,
(14:48):
And so I don't know why anybody would be surprised.
It's all to do with the almighty dollar that it
makes this right in the eyes of those who make
the decision in the professional sports world. I agree. I
think it's just the tip of the iceberg. I think
we can expect more of it to come down the road.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know, it makes you wonder. The easiest thing in
the world to say, and I've been guilty of saying it,
so I'm not pointing fingers at anybody else. The easiest
thing in the world to say is that, hey, look,
professional sports got in bed with these gambling companies and
taking all their money and sponsorships and so on and
so forth. But you know, the more than more I
(15:30):
think about it, Dad, I don't think that that in
and of itself has anything to do with an individual
who decides, hey, look, I'm gonna throw a fastball instead
of a breaking ball because somebody I know is involved
in prop betting. Do you see the separation of it too,
(15:51):
or do you think that they are intertwined.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, you can make a strong argument for either side. Uh.
I don't know. I wish I'm like you. I'm not
a gambler. I don't I don't even know how to
play poker, So I'm legitimately a guy that would never
ever find it appealing or addictive or anything of that nature.
(16:19):
I don't know. This is this is this is something
that all the sports now are going to have to
figure out a way to work around or work workout,
because all of a sudden, it seems like we're having
we're having We're inundated, all of a sudden over a
short period of time. Uh. The the NBA. I hate
to say NBA because every time I read it says
(16:41):
NBA scandal, And it's not an NBA scandal. It's involving
guys that were involved with the NBA as a player,
and in one case Charns develops a player and a coach.
So I don't know. I I think it's a very delicate,
sensitive situation. Uh. That debt, in most cases deals with
(17:02):
the credibility of the fan as far as with sport
that they follow religiously up or follow all of them.
That's the bottom line. Are you going to lose your
credibility as the NBA or Major League Baseball in the NFL.
You're in deep trouble. You're in deep, deep trouble. And
I think that's the thing that has to be first
and foremost in the minds of everybody who wants to
(17:23):
deal with this situation and make it go away.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You know, I don't want to get overly Freudian on
this whole thing, but you and I both know. The
first thing a lot of people say is or ask, is, hey, look,
why in the world was some dude making millions, if
not tens of millions of dollars as is the case
with one of the players in the NBA doz or
you know, why would these guys you know, care about
making fifty five hundred there, two hundred grand there? But
(17:51):
you and I both know, I mean, we know people
like this where you can have and make all the
money in the world and it's never going to be enough.
So if you can stick another thousand, ten thousand, one
hundred thousand million in your pocket, human nature in a
lot of cases takes over and that's what people do.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, I'm always reminded of what my dear dear friend
of many years ago, who has since passed away, Sparky Anderson,
used to say. His line was how much money is enough?
How much? How much? How much is enough for you?
You know? Is this guy the limit? Especially if you're
going to go to some type of illegality to put
(18:29):
more money in your pocket. I agree to me that
in and of itself could be somewhat addictive. You know
I'm making If you're an NBA guy, I say you're
making twelve thirteen million dollars a year and that's not
enough and you're ruining potentially your entire life that will
affect you, your family, those around you, just because you
(18:53):
think you can get away and make a lot more
money in doing it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What a shift, gearest of the Reds For a minute here,
Nick Crawl came out last week after it was announced
that the Reds were going to non tender three players
Barlow Hayes suitor. There's a chance any two three could
be back at a lesser price tag. The bigger headline
is that the Reds, despite a significant increase in attendance,
(19:18):
are not going to increase where they are from a
team salary right around one hundred and twenty one hundred
and twenty five million dollars. Were you at all surprised
by those comments.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, because I think the kind contradicts itself. I saw
where Nick said the payroll is going to essentially be
close to what it was is past year. Then they
start slicing people off, and you know they also have
to deal with guys that are going to go to arbitration.
(19:52):
A lot of that money is going to be offset
by having it pay them even though they've let these
other guys hit the road. I don't know, it's going
to be interesting if they're going to operate on essentially
the same payroll they had in twenty twenty five. That
may inhibit their desires or abilities to address firmly address
(20:15):
the need that this team has in the off season.
And I still maintain as I have for the last
two years, that they need to go out and get
a guy that has a track record. Don't bring me
some guy that's done it two years in a row.
Give me a guy who's had a track record of three,
four years, five years, that's driven in runs and hit
home runs, and stick him in the middle of the
batting order. It's going to be interesting to see how
(20:39):
this whole thing plays out, because I don't think this
team is too far away from being very, very good,
but that very very good is going to be predicated
on making the right decisions this off season. And you
know you now tickle the fancy of your died in
the Wolf fans because they've seen you. Albeit only two
(21:00):
games made the postseason. Nevertheless, they are expecting more in
twenty twenty six. And now the pressure is on for
the front office, Nit Crawl, Brad Metter, everybody else involved
ownership who has to approve the payroll increase if there
is one to do better in this coming season than
they did this past season.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Red's Hall of Fame voting opens up, and I think
the headline name on that whole thing has to be
Brandon Phillips. It's not to say that there aren't others
there that are not viable options or deserving of being there,
but I don't know how you feel. In the time
that I was with the Reds, not nearly as long
as you. I can't think of a guy who is
more of a gamer than Brandon.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Phillips one hundred and fifty thousand percent and I don't
I agree with you. You look at the list of players,
and all of them you can make a strong argument
for being in the Redgs Hall of Fame. That guy
is absolutely number one. If we operate on the assumb
that Joe Morgan is the greatest second basement of the
(22:03):
history of this franchise. Brandon Phillips is number two, and
there are people that would They're just one of the
great things about baseball. You can always come up with
something to argue about. I don't think there's any question
that he should be in the Hall of Fame. He
now on top of his ability to play, he was
a great fan favorite. He responded to that fan favorite
(22:25):
by giving it back to them. He just is everything
that screams I'm a Reds Hall of Famer, and hopefully
when the voting takes place, that will be born out.
I think he needs to be in the Hall of
Fame for his fans, for the club, for the club,
(22:45):
for the history of the club, and also for himself.
He's got to embrace it. I know he left here
and they weren't under the best of terms. At the
same time, I think you need to turn the page
on that. If you're Brandon Phillips and realize that this
club I think wants you be in the Hall of
Fame based on the career you had, and so I
(23:06):
hope this thing ends up with a happy ending because
I think he's the one guy as you say, that
jumps out at you when you see the list of
those that fans will be voting for.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Now, all right, I want to shift gears. You were
down at your alma mater, at least for Friday night.
You drove in Friday. You drove out Friday night after
watching North Carolina put a thumping in the second half
on Kansas in a college basketball game. In the time
you had in Chapel Hill. Did you have any time
at all? Yay or nay. There are rumors you did,
but I'm not so sure. I didn't get a chance
(23:36):
to see it, even though I was in the same town.
Did you get together at all with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I did not, But I can say with all sense
of assuredness that you did because I've got a picture
on my phone. Yes, you know you got a little
you got a little fan of you.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know I got to tell you the reason I
did it, and I about it before I posted it,
but at the end of the day, the way I
looked at it was this, whether he is still an
active coach or whether the day comes whenever that might be.
And after spending time with him on Friday, I think
he is in it for the long haul at North Carolina.
(24:17):
I really do. But time will tell. But you're talking
about Dad, the greatest coach in the history of football.
I love football, and he's the greatest coach of all time.
So I got a picture with a guy. What tell's
wrong with that? Well, I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I don't do that. It's like, you know, I went
to the basketball game Friday night, Friday afternoon or Friday morning.
I went to the Dean Dome and sat in on
the shoot around by the Kansas Shayhawks because Bill self
and I have a relationship and spent time with him
and talk with him. And I didn't say, hey, somebody
(24:56):
take this picture of me and Bill self.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We're not talking about great I mean, he's a great coach,
but I mean he's not He's not the greatest coach.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, I would I would argue about that. I would say, yeah,
he is the greatest coach of all time because he
had Tom Brady. What the hell do you do when
when Brady left? Okay, what do you do with Brady?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
There are a lot of guys with good quarterbacks who
don't win a damn thing After Brady left, the winning
is coach in the history of the NFL. The only
guy with more wins in Belichick never won a Super
Bowl with Dan Marino. Never.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I'm just not a big fan of Bill Belichick. I think, yeah,
he better win.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He's gonna be ay you that he's gonna win. Yeah,
he's gonna I got him again. This wins hanging out
with him again.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, they will have Steve Belichick as a head Coacheck
he leaves, I'm so excited. I'm about to school with anticipation.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They've won two in a row.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Look out, Yeah, I know they beat the little sisters
of the poor both times. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You got to cut the guy a little slack. I mean,
come on, you've been sticking up for you for four years.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Ay, my mega's girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The head coach after he leaves, well, neh, you know,
well it would improve the look of the building.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I can promise you.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All right, Well, have great rest of your day.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
All right man, I love you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I love you too, I'll see you later.
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