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October 15, 2024 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, good morning. I'm back.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You'll have to forget my voice a little bit coming
off of a head cold. You're waking up a tip
in the morning on Kissuan oh seven one commercial free
for the rest of the hour, and on Tuesdays. I'll
have to remind myself of that a few times today
that it is, in fact Tuesday. It's our day of relationships.
We talk about what's going on in your world, maybe
something that we've come across on the internet. If there's
anything that you know you've come across that you want

(00:24):
to know about. Lori Sharpage is our licensed clinical counselor
good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're gonna talk about the five ways to ruin a marriage.
One that is not on the list is bachelorette parties
and maybe bachelor parties.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Things that happen on these parties.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Did you see the Saturday Night Live skit with Ariana Grande?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I did.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I scrolled past that thing about five times and now
it's stuck in my head. God Bacon location, maybe he's
bye still dancing with some mingo the location bully straight,
bully touching them mingo.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I can't wait to be his life. She's finding the
dow mingo. So my question, who's the mingo? Who's the mingo?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I love that skit, so my Saturday night life is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I think we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Save bachelorette parties for our eight o'clock hour. If you
want to get it, hit head on it. Please leave
me a talk back with Tiff. You can also remain anonymous.
If it's a Domingo situation. You'll see the microphone next
to the play butt and we're gonna table that quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Has have bachelor or bachelorette parties come up for you? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Absolutely, that's a really big topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah. Okay, so I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
This isn't on the list of five things that will
ruin a marriage, but maybe we'll add a sixth in there.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Let's add it on there because it certainly can.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, we'll talk about that two songs from now, stick around.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Make a Date or Break is next on Kiss one
O seven one. Oh, It's time to make a date
or break on Tip in the Morning. Hi, we do
this on Tuesdays.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Relationships and therapy kind of intersect on my show.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Whether you bring it to the table and you want
to air it, out or something that we find on
social the latest and greatest, maybe worst trend on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
We debunk some of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Lori Starpage is our licensed clinical counselor nothing's too out
of pocket, nothing's been off the table for her.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So far, we haven't scared her away. Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We're gonna talk about the top five ways to ruin
a marriage based off of this viral TikTok video that
I saw. I will add on to this that I
found the video before I found Domingo. If you have
no idea what I'm talking about, that was a skip

(02:48):
from Saturday Night Live this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm talking about bachelor and bachelorette parties.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I don't want to scare anyone and create unnecessary fears.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I don't. That's not what this is about. That what
is about what it's about.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
However, have you seen things come up in therapy about
things that have happened on bachelorette and bachelor parties?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah? Absolutely, ninety percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I think people get too anxious about them and think
that they're the burial ground for your marriage.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
But they are situations where trust can come into play right,
and trust is essential to a healthy relationship. And trust
is bill through little moments. So when you have a
big moment like a bachelorette party or a bachelor party,
where maybe trust can be broken in a big way,
it can be earned back.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
But it's a lot of work to do.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
So I would be mindful about what situations you put
yourself in question.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
All right, So I'm gonna play the video that came
across my feed, and then I'm gonna have you talk
about whether or not you agree.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
These are the top five ways to ruin a marriage. Okay,
top five ways to ruin your marriage. Number one letting
your kids sleep in your bed. Number two, stop being playful,
number three, letting yourself go, number four, distancing yourself from God.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Number five letting intimacy die of I'm gonna let you go, yeah,
right away, because I do not have a rock on
my hands.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
So number one, yes, having your children sleep in your
bed with you is disruptive to your sleep hygiene and
it is also disruptive to number five, your physical intimacy.
So this is something that if it happens, I would
highly encourage it to be a structured phase. And you know,
you and your partner both agree on when the kids
will be exiting your bed. You need your rest, you

(04:33):
need your time, you need your space. So I would
totally agree with this, Sam Can I.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Ask questions about the kids sleeping in the bed thing?
For sure?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
As someone that does not have when, I can stake
a claim here that I would never allow that to happen. However,
I know that I'm not in a situation and things
come up in families and relationships and such. Does that
happen quite a bit? Does it happen for far too long?
For example, my best friend Amanda Bac in Boston, her
son sleeps with her and he's like five.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I would say that that's too long. It's it's disruptive,
that level of co sleeping, and it also creates for
the child and expectations that they're always going to sleep
with someone else, which is, as we know as adults,
is not a guarantee.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Let me tell you, let me tell you, let me
tell you. Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
So, co sleeping is something that can happen for a
lot of different reasons. Parenting, choice, culture, there's a lot
of logistics, there's a lot of different reasons. I think
that you know, not coming at it from a parenting perspective,
and there's a lot to be said about that alone.
But I think it should be a time limited thing,
and it should be agreed upon by the partner, because again,
you guys need sleep, you need good school.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
But I hear that it's just when you're exhausted and
the kid needs to come in the bed.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's what happens, Yeah, to get for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So what advice would you give for someone that's like,
oh my god, you're so right, but I don't know
where to start.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Make it a special occasion thing and move away from
it as a habit. So if you're doing it seven
nights out of the week, let's start doing it on
just the week days, so Monday through Friday, and then
let's start to tail down from there. You don't have
to make a rapid choice, but you, again, that is
your space and you deserve your sleep and your rest.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So I would agree with number one, the one that
fell on this list that I was surprised to hear.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And I don't know if this would ruin a marriage.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
By the way, if you're just walking into this, make
a date or break It's where relationships and therapy come
together on my show and I found a video that
I was curious about it. So the top five ways
to ruin a marriage. They brought up your belief in God.
I don't hear that much anymore in relationships.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I find that to be probably very culturally specific
to this relationship. I think that it connects back to
the one before, which is like not losing yourself, and
a lot of times we talk about that through physical appearance,
but I think it goes much deeper. It's your own
sense of connection with the meaning and the world, and
that may be.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Religious, that may be spiritual, it may not be.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I think that you make a good point. There's just
you have to have the same belief on something, not
necessarily a spiritual being, yeah, but like just beliefs on
parenting or.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Parenting or even just you know, something simple like believing
in you know that love is the answer and that
we get up every day and we try and show
that to each other. So it doesn't have to be
this grand thing or a religious connection, but you do
have to be grounded in the fact that you are
your own independent person who's showing up for these relationships.
And if you start to lose that part of you

(07:23):
that can be very detrimental to all of your relationships,
but particularly your intimate ones.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Lastly, the playfulness. I love that one.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, the silliness, whatever makes your relationship you When that.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Dies, I think one of the hardest things about being
a couple's therapist is when people come into the room
and you can tell that the playfulness between them has
has ended. It's all serious, it's all business, it's all painful,
and when we're at that place, it's really hard to
get it back. Playfulness is like that spark, and that's
why it's so important to stay playful and to find
those things that really speak to you and your partner

(08:01):
just having fun together. It's often overlooked, but it's so important. Okay,
so talk through how one would get that back. So
I think the way you get that back is you
find a time and a space to like clear all
of the other things from your agenda. So like, if
you're sleeping in bed with your kid, make sure kids
going to grandma or somewhere else so you've got some space.

(08:22):
But then I think you need to work with your
partner to just find something that sounds fun to both
of you. And the simpler the better.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So if you clear the schedule and you stay home
and you play scrabble with them and that feels fun
and exciting, do that.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
What you shouldn't do is go on an all girls
trip to Charleston and findming go. I always learned something
for you, as the single girl in the group and
as you know, the single girl across a lot of
my friends. I always learn about relationships. They're just talking

(08:56):
to you. So if you have questions or maybe you
have your own you want to talk about five and three, seven, four, nine,
one oh seven one. Make a Date or Break here
on Kiss one oh seven Lolor sharp Page, Hi, good morning.
You're waking up with Tip in the morning. On Kiss
one oh seven one. We're in the midst of make
a Date or Break which is where relationships and therapy
kind of intersect on my show Tuesday Mornings. And when

(09:17):
I say Lori sharp Page, who's our relationship expert has
seen it all? We were just talking about co sleeping
with parents and kids and to have one big mattress yep,
and two adults and three kids yep.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
They don't make mattresses that big. You've seen this yes,
I have seen this.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I have seen this, and with the family with the
kids in elementary school, so we're not talking like youngong uh.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It becomes like if that's all, everybody's.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Sorry, Yeah, they get bag. I will say that, did
they have a full house with all the bedroom what
was it?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
What were in the bedrooms? If the kids all slept
in the.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Bed futons futons, futons are in the bedroom. So the
kids had their own separate spaces. But then they would
all as a family climb into bed together. And I'm
not I'm not really sure how it would work other
than like nobody's getting restless sleep. I'm almost and I'm
like convinced you can't.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
When I used to have a sleepover with my friends
and there'd be one king bed and like you've got
two people on the end, but then that one person
in the middle, you're getting kicked.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
God. It makes you feel like.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
But they had planned to do this, yeaid, this is
like a contentional part of their parenting.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, this is a very intentional thing. When you say
you've seen it all.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh yeah, I mean this was yeah, this and this
was on my personal time, so like that's even even harder. Yeah,
so it's.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And they're still together, the kids, everyone's everyone's still together. Yeah,
everyone's still together.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
But last I heard, they were talking about getting a
new a new bed for the oldest child who's twelve. Yes,
and not a futon and not a futon, and the
oldest child was excited about having their own I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know who else I believe has done this. I
think Billie Eilish in the documentary. I think Billie Eilish
and Phineas used to like sleep with mom and da
for well, so maybe they'll.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Be a really successful singer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I mean a lot of parents feel very strongly
about the co sleeping. I think you can tell how
I feel about it, which is that it should be
time limited. But there are a lot of people that
do it for a lot of different reasons. But let's
really think about how that's impacting your sleep.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
The reason why we're chit chatting about this is this
video came across my feed of the top five ways
to ruin a marriage, which we've kind of gone through.
And now this is the point where you comment outside
of calling us. Our talk back with Tip features a
great way to remain anonymous. If you're uncomfortable, you just
search kiss on her radio. The microphone's next to the
play button. Not only about sleeping with kids, sleeping in beds,

(12:03):
but how about animals.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
If we had a pet for about eleven years and
never did she cease to come in the bed in
between us every single night, and anytime we tried to
move her, she would growl and try and bite us,
and so she just liked her spot in between us,

(12:25):
and so it really made our alone time pretty difficult.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, that's that's tough, especially when you've got a dog
that doesn't want to move. But it is, in my opinion,
it is the same dog. Should not be close sleeping
cats as much as you can help, so you should
not be co sleeping.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
When I was with my former partner, yeah, I was
pet fostering a dog, and this was during the pandemic
when everyone pet fostered a dog. When we were starting
to get into it with one another, he looked over
and the dog was staring at us.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
He's like, I can't do this. I can't do this
to me. The dog is.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The same as is it is.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
It a human. It's an additional presence and energy.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
In the room.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
If your dog has gone in the way of your relationship,
I'd love to hear it. So far, we've got Domingo
and Dog five win, three, seven, four nine one.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Hi, good morning.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You're waking up with Tim in the morning on Kiss
one oh seven one. We're just two songs away from
the three things you need to Know to get your
day started in Sincy. But we're in the midst of
make a date or Break We're relationships and therapy come
together on my show with Lori sharp Page. We're we
talked about the five things that would ruin a marriage,
and we keep coming back to the sleeping and.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
We've got dogs in bed, we've got kids in bed.
But I don't know. I don't know about if a
cat in a bed, I don't.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Know how Okay, So my cat always sleeps right in
the middle of us, so it's like we can't cudd all.
We can't you know, have our like you know, body's
touching because the cat always going right between you.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
You can tell that she's like, my husband hates me
for having this cat.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think that that cat hates your relationship.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I think cats are evil enough, though really they're smart enough.
They have the brain power to point someone out on
the relationship and be like, no, this guy's gotta go.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I would not. Yeah, for sure a cat would
be able to do that. Oh man, I have so
many questions, like I want to know how long the
cat has been there. But the truth of the matter
is is anything that is sleeping in between you is
going to be disruptive.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Lori's shirt page is our licensed clinical counselor. She sees
it all. Thank you so much for coming in today.
We do this every Tuesday. If you're just catching us.
Thank you for having me. Two songs from now, Three
things you need to know. We're gonna talk about the
Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
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