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August 26, 2024 • 13 mins
Joe Exotic from "Tiger King" called us from the hospital he's at in Ft Worth while still in jail. We find out what is new with his case, and how much did he make off of Netflix's Tiger King
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
kJ one All three list from a federal prison. This
call is from True to accept this call, press five
to block this call, and.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Exotic, Yeah, we got hold of you.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
We finally got you. Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Are you all doing it?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
We're good?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah, Let's let's talk about a long story here. Janet
tagged uh Joe Exotic last week in a fun post
and then next thing we know, we're getting messages from
Joe Exotic and this turned into you calling our show
and we're really glad to have you on.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey, I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to have
a little bit of a voice.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Well, okay, now now I want to start with how
are you doing? Because you know you're you're you've got
health struggles and where are Where are you right now?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Where are you're obviously? Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I mean I'm in for work Texas at the Federal
Medical Center, which is like a medically yard for people
that are that are ill and have to have treatment.
And you know, it's really not even other than having
a fence around it. It's kind of like a college campus.
There's no doors and you're in dorms down it in
prison sales and they got somewhat of a hospital right
here on site, but a lot of times they take

(01:12):
us out to major hospitals downtown. It's still prison. But
you know, I went through prostate cancer for a year
and a half and I just went through the hospital
again Togo, and I went through X rays and cat
cans and pet hands. And now they're saying that many
nine percent champan globe of my leftlong haer.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh wow, wow, So you're still fighting it. I mean,
you gotta fight ahead of you.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm on a peel right now. You know,
with all the new evidence, I don't know if you've
ever if you've anybody who's ever went and looked videos
of all the government witnesses that test fight against me,
if they've admitted to perjury and help the so called hitman.
You know, Alan under oath on a on a video deposition,
and he even took the attorneys to the zoo and

(01:54):
showed him where he hid in the woods there behind
the trailer houses. The murder weapon where they're actual playing
was to kill me to start with.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Now, now, now, Joe Exotic, what what exactly what what
are the charges or what were you convicted of that,
you're in federal custody right now.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Okay, Well they started out with that one bogus murder
for higher.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Charge, okay, in cattle basket, right right.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
They arrested me on that. Then they put me in
solitary confinement in Grady County there in Chickashet, and I
couldn't call nobody, I couldn't hire a lawyer, I couldn't
do anything, so I had to use public defenders. So
the public defenders tried to get me to plee out
some murder for hiring, and I was like, I didn't
do anything. So as soon as I asked for a trial,
they superseded my indictment with twenty more charges and a

(02:40):
lot of people. Yeah, you know, that's just the way
that the Feds work is if you don't plee out,
that's why their conviction rate is so high, because you know,
most most people, especially you know, the black and brown community,
can't afford lawyers. So they scare them to death with
where are they going to get you to plead to this,
or we're going to give you thirty years if you
go to trial. So most people out because they're scared.

(03:01):
But you know, the bad thing that most of the
press always publishes is I'm in here for animal abuse,
and not one of my charges are for animal abuse.
I've never been accused or charged or convicted of animal
abuse that I have. The animal charges are like, I'm
doing hard time right now because my vet secretary screwed

(03:22):
up on a l certificate. So that's a felony for
the Lazy Act, which is an animal chargers and it
has nothing to do with animal abuse. And then the
five tigers that I put down, you know, they were
twenty three years old and they should have died naturally
at fourteen to sixteen. So I put them down according
to the way that my USDA inspector told me to
and it was my protocol, it written protocol if I'm

(03:44):
the vet and from the USDA, to euthanize them by gunshot,
you know, And so I did. And then a federal
game boarden that was working with Carolyn Howard arrested me
for taking five endangered species without a permit, like I
should have applied for a permit first. And in the
twenty three years did I had the zoo and you know,

(04:04):
rescuing and saving tigers and other animals and putting animals
down when you have to. We never had to have
a permit because we had a federal license by the USDA.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Sure, yeah, we're talking about Joe. We're talking about Joe
Exotic right now. Who called us from the Federal Medical
Hospital and Fort Worth? Why why were you because you're
sound convincing when you talk to us. You know, we
watched the documentary. Everyone formed their opinions. Why were you
not able to get that point across when you had
your time in court?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Because the thirty two witnesses that I asked the public
defenders to actually use, they refused to do it. The
public defender kept saying, we're going to do this my way,
We're going to do this my way. And the only
witness they called for me was Peta, of all people.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, that doesn't help.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
The men that Peta finds out you have a pet
they're like, oh no, I don't like this guy.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
So oh exactly. You know poor Rinky, you know, the
guy with no legs that managed the zoo. You know,
he was my manager for fourteen years and he was
by my side when I put those tigers down. He's
the one who got the health certificates from the vet
and they wouldn't call him as a witness because they
needed me to be convicted. And if you and if
you look, it's really crazy. What evidence we have now

(05:21):
on Jilly's notticofficial dot com on the evidence link is
all the videos and all the evidence that we've pertained
now from my appeal for a new trial. Eric Good,
the producer of Tiger King with Netflix, is the corporate
because the culprit behind all of this, because we have
him on recorded video. The first thing that people need

(05:42):
to learn, especially federal agients, is when you work.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
This call is from a federal prison, make.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Sure they're not convicted felons to start with, because every
witness they had were felons, you know, sure, and they
were recording the federal agents the whole time when they
didn't know it. So they turned over four hundred and
sixteen phone recordings of the allagiance and the prosecutors knowing
that they were lying in those recordings. We have Eric
Good with the producer of Tiger King, who now came

(06:08):
out with Chimp crazy because now they're going to take
away everybody's monkeys, paying twenty five thousand dollars up to
twenty five thousand dollars cash to the witnesses to keep
this agenda going during my trial so he can make
Tiger Kings. Most people don't even realize I didn't film
for Tiger King. Dylan, my husband. I was in jail
for two years before Tiger King came out. Okay, Dylan,

(06:31):
my husband at the time, sold Eric Good with Netflix.
My computers from my internet show that had probably six
terabytes have never seen footage, so that's where they got
the footage of me. I didn't film for Tig King.
I didn't get a dime from Tiger King. Wow. Yeah,
everybody thinks. Everybody thinks that I just made millions of

(06:54):
dollars off of Tiger King. I didn't get a dime, Okay,
I was. I was in Grady County Jail, going through trial,
going Dylan, my husband, signed the contracts with Netflix, took
two point six million dollars and divorced me and left
me in prison.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Wow what I mean, that's wow? That is crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I was thinking, just because you know of the timeline,
I was thinking, you know, did Tiger King ruin your life?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know, I didn't realize you ready?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I mean, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean what what?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
What? What is your life like because of that?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well? I mean, if you google Joe Exotic and hit
the shopping button, everybody around the world is making money
off of me, but me.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So much, so much stuff being sold and used with
my name and trade box on it. But you know
what did what did this do for me? I still
think there's a reason behind all of this because what's
going on in the federal prison system is so criminal
and so corrupt that when I do get out of here,
my first goal is to testify in front of Congress
of what's really going on behind these fences because there's

(07:57):
more drugs in here than there is out there.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Wow damn.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I mean, yeah, what else is going on behind those
you know fences that you can tell us about?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I mean, I mean announce of math of seven thousand
bucks and and you know it's coming in the front doors,
coming in by drones, cigarettes, a pet of cigarettes or
two hundred and twenty five bucks, you know, and they
just don't stop it. And you know, the question that
I have is if you were making moonshine and Oklahoma
City in your garage, you would go if you go
to prison for that, but in federal prison. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh that's insane, dude. Okay, we're talking.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
We're talking to George Zotic. You said, you said, when
I get out. And there was a time, you know,
when Trump was president, there was a talk that Trump
that Trump would pardon you. Are you still hoping for
he wins this election and you get a pardon or
and also what's your other plan to get out? Because
you seem pretty confident you're not going to die in
federal prison.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
My appeal right now is in front of Denver, in
front of three judges, okay, and I've already beat that
Oklahoma City judge in Denver once, so I am very
camp for them that three judges will overturn my conviction
by the end of the year. That's what I'm praying for, Okay.
And they're gonna have to let me out and either
reindict me or forget this, okay, because my lawyer said,

(09:12):
you know, and I've got some damn good lawyers. Now.
They're the ones who represented Kyle Rittenhouse and Ruby Giuliani
and good old Jerry Jones's lawyer jumped on my case
last month. So I've got some decent lawyers now, and
they believe that the government will never retry me because
their witnesses have already painted themselves. But if I don't, yeah,
I'm gonna have to pray for for Donald Trump to

(09:34):
save me. Well, I mean I'm in really close I'm
in really close contact with his people in his campaign.
I do a lot of interviews with them, and you know,
I dropped out of the race and endorsed him two
weeks ago. But you know the funny thing is, and
people don't even do enough research, is if you go
down Kamala Harris's Twitter, I have screenshot my people have

(09:56):
put on my social media. You know, she bragged about
coast bond from the Big Cat Safety Act for Carrol.
That put me in here. I mean that's really why
I'm here. I'm a political prisoner for the Big Cat
Safety Act.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
So you're not going to vote for her.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I would encourage no one else here. I mean, I
mean they don't even know, they don't even know how
to negotiate prisoner swaps. I mean, we've always came out
on the raw end of the deal, right, six billion
dollars and only.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
This calls from a federal prison.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, Okay, well, okay, Well, as someone that's run for president,
how many times have you run?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Now twice?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Twice?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, second person in the history that ran from prison.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, Well, I will say you are the only presidential
candidate we've had an interview with this year, Trump and Kamala.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
We're offering you equal time. We have to offer equal time.
You have to do that here, Joe.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
We We've I know you can't talk for too long,
but we've had people.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Ask, how do we get you money?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
How can they donate to your commissary account so you can,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Buy those cigarettes or whatever, the seven thousand dollars for
math or whatever. Well, not the math. We don't want,
you know.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
The good thing is is my will has been strong enough.
I've not had any alcohol, drugs or a cigarette in
this almost seven years i've been in here because I'm
just not going to turn into an inmates.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Congratulations, that's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm gonna I'm going to walk out of here clean
and I'm gonna have my head together, you know. And
I've got a fiancee Enfortsmouth, Arkansas, Seth and he's got
a five year old little boy and I can't wait
to just be a stepdad and have a family. But
what is that way?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Just real quick, what about the mullet? I mean, do
you still have it?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's still here? Second?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Second? Okay, money, Okay, let's let's send Jogsic some money.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, okay on Joey's got to official dot com. There's
three ways to donate and it goes directly to me.
Is there's cash at demo and PayPal. Putting it on
the books is difficult because it's Western Union and you
got to have my numbers and all that stuff. But
you can go to FMC for worth and get on
their website and my uh inmate number is two six

(12:05):
is two six one four one seven. You can put
it directly on my books. But I'm about seventy thousand
short of paying attorneys to actually get me out of here.
And unfortunately, money money, it talks. You know, a lawyer
is only gonna fight for what theyre were. Yeah, but uh,
the thing that's kept me going, guys, And I'd like
to tell everybody this is at the support from around

(12:26):
the world, because bring my mail to me in Walmart
bags and I answer every letter. So I'd like to
say I love each and every one of you around
the world that give me support, and I'd love to
talk to y'all again sometime. But this phone's gonna hang
up in about fifteen seconds.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Okay, all right, well, we're gonna let you go. We're
gonna let you go.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
George Ona takes following us on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
We appreciate that the governor's stit to call Trump.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Oh hell, we'll pass a massy bye, thank you man. Bye.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Okay, that was George. That was George Ona called our
show the hospital.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I literally could have talked to him for more time,
and I wanted to ask him are those the same
Walmart bags that he bought the expired meat in?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I was going to ask about the pizzas.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
And again, this is one person's side of the story.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
What's true or what's not true. But we had the
time with him. He told the story, and I wasn't
here to debate him. I just wanted to hear what he.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Had to say. And we got entertained during COVID. Sorry,
didn't make any of the money, had no idea he
was out of no money at all. Crazy. Wow, that
was interesting.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I know all right, kJ WE three, TJ Janet,
jay Rout in the morning,
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