Chris Brown Documentary, Cardi Vs. Offset, Tone’s New Tattoo & More

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome Georgian. What more can I say? Podcast with up
Pop fam I want your.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Host to one of phone woo woo whoa.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Well, oh they started. Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Let's go ahead and get to it. This is episode
number one seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey, oh you close though I was close.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I was close. All right, guys, let's go ahead introduce.
You know how this goes. She's the first lady of
the pot. She's the only lady of the pot. She
has braids of the Caribbean. Aday, I gotta say fluffy
and fine too.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Don't forget to say fluffy and fine.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes, Hey, friends, hey.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Feeling, Yes, that's what that's our hair.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, she got that's her hair. Things got reggae hair.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yes, vacation.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I need a vacation.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Going to Jamaica. Right, No, wait, have you ever been
to Jamaica? No attempt you go ahead and do that.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I've heard great things when I go to Jamaica. I
will not be taking a man with me to Jamaica.
I'm saying that's what I've heard that you don't take
anybody to Ja with you?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Go make my hair?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
What did I do?

Speaker 4 (01:26):
How you wouldn't take your man to Jamaica. That's a
perfect time to be romantic in Jamaica. Yes, Jamaica is perfect.
It's like perfect weather. People are nice, the energy is beautiful.
Like nobody's in a rush. Like you're not America. We
kind of be like in a rush and it'd be
like some tense No in the Jamaica's everybody laid back
everything you say. They be like, no problem, great, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
I just over the years, people have always said, when
you go to Jamaica, sis, don't take me man with you.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's what I've always That's because they trying to get
rited out, t get.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
What rotted out.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
They're trying to get their servex tickle, oh oh.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Whatever they go on. They got some wild stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You're like, man, no, the fellas when you take your
girl to Jamaica, limit the conversations. Limit them, just limit them. Hey, man,
talk to me. Nah huh.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Jamaican men will try to holler at your girl in
front of you. Is this they do it? Slick?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You got like nah, bro, no, now baby, I got
the cab, I'm ordering the food.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's all. They respect you. But if you let your
woman I do what's a lot of dudes.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Do you let the lady kind of lead to say,
our baby, go ahead, get the cab because we pay
up everything.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Go get it. If you let them dudes talk to
your lady, I don't know what's gonna happen. They might.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
You're looking, they say some slick stuff. She's looking at him. Man,
I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Now, I don't do it. And that man over there,
man the funny man of the pot, little bro of
the pot. That's right.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Also proud TSU graduate who has one of the not
talked about homecomings book, one of the not.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Talked about homecomings. As Wold shout out to all the Tigers.
You know, homecoming is next weekend, not this weekend, but
next weekend. We'll be down there.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I need to get my off. I'm trying to arrange myself.
I might have to go. You should come. I really
want to see what it's like. Really this pop down
Saturday Saturday. I might do a day trip Saturday Sunday. Yeah,
just come Saturday, come to the tailgate.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
It'll be dope. We know what I think. No, I'm
on in my own homecoming. It's the same weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, yep, it's like the twelfth to tenth through the
that weekend. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I understand. Yeah you
should come to what is your homecoming for?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Just to kick it? See how it is.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Okay, she's not doing nothing, you don't kick it. But
she want to go to Jamaica by herself, right, but
you big team can't come.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Don't big tim go to the you don't come.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, he can go anywhere he wants.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I hate that.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I hate that as the one time a woman say
you can go anywhere you want.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, I've always in some stuff. I haven't even said nothing.
Y'all started this.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Please no, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Kiki. No, I'm not even gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Please don't.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
All right, so right now my shoulders hurting potfam uh.
Last night I got a tattoo until about three in
the morning. Shout out to my girl, Cella, one of
the best tattoo artists in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Just man, she you know what it is?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Me and her vibe, Me and her vibe like in
a sense of like, yo, I tell him my idea.
She could create because she could really draw, so it's
kind of like she puts it together because my whole
thing is like especially if you do like a piece.
I wanted all the flow. She's really good at that,
really good that I got. I got a pretty cool piece.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I liked it.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Man, you showed it to us. It was dope. I
think your concepts are amazing. And I was gonna ask
you how much you charged to do some concept for me.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, that's a that's a personal you know what I mean.
I don't like to tell people prices because it's different
for everybody.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
We'll just jumped some ideas.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Wait, you just out you do this for a living
on the side, you prices is different for everybody. You're
saying her prices. I thought you want you to just
he wants you to come up with this.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I want your ideas, idea. I need some ideas for
me because my concepts be terrible. I'm a terrible tattoo.
Concept for it's either words or something stupid.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
You gonna have. I'm gonna tell you the key. Go
get on pintriest type in.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Some words that you like some things like this, say
you you might say church.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Or God already got the cross. Everybody got but Zack.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
And I actually got matching tattoos one accident, like I
don't even know him how mad I tattoos?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's how you know? We went both and w and
got the number three.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like, let me get that because you got dots on
your hands.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
These are birds, okay, now these these were these are
birds Okay, no, no, no, they are birds.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
No, but boomerangs.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
All my tattoos are horrible. I've been very open about that.
I made all bad decisions. That's why I don't want
no more. But yeah, Zach and I have the same
horrible tattoo.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Got the cross.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah we got like something with hands. Yeah, he got
a baby on him that he don't even know.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I got to get that covered up at least now.
Now I have a child. So I was thinking when
I had when I got that baby, I didn't know
that baby.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They just gonna last say.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's you know what I'm saying. I didn't have no
baby when I got that baby. When I got the baby,
So what I was thinking about is getting to cover
up with like Noah's face. Maybe is that ghetto portraits
are always That's kind of like portraits are tough for
me because I met this girl, Oh I know this girl,

(07:15):
and she got a portrait on her who it was
a guy she used to date. I don't think it
was a guy she used today. I think it was
like a father, uncle or something. But it was always
weird seeing that man looking right there. And I don't
know if it would be weird for me to have
a baby his actual face on me. You got a
baby there already, it's already a baby. Yeah, And then

(07:38):
with it being a cover up, I don't want it
to look weird because it ain't. You know what I'm saying.
I need something that's gonna be dark and can really
cover up the lines. So my baby got a hairline.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
He got a baby with a beard.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I hate that.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I hate that tattoo for you, bro, you know about this.
You know what I cover up. But because you got
that terrible at to on your brother, you're my brother, man,
I'm draw him something.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm gonna come up with something.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'm gonna give you a little stood dog medicine and
I'm gonna just you know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
A it's gotta get taken off. I gotta sped and
can we do it this year?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
It came. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
So like this piece is inspired by a famous actor
by the name of Phone, and that's how you can
tell the.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Story they're gonna be like, get the Parker's logo.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I tell you to get this podcast.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And that might be hard. Oh god, I don't know
its good. But if I got that, it wouldn't be good. No,
I think it would.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I say, Parker's logo is trash bro and love, thank
you to the party. But in a way, you put
Parkers on your body.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
He said, this logo.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
The what more can I say? I can't hear it that.
Oh the what more can I say?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Now?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Actually that would be cool. I was thinking about, to
be honest, I was thinking about adding that logo to
my uh, to my leg tattoo piece.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, do it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I was like, I think this logo is dope and
they look cool. I might have to put it like
on my It's like because my leg piece. I'm in
the process of building that in my mind.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
So you build them in your mind first.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You don't just go I don't just go with an idea,
and it kind of keeps coming, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
I wish I could have saw how Tom walked in here,
though he walked in here in a hoodie, right in
his whole outfit, and then he just out of knowe
he was like, oh, my back. So then everybody just
ignored it, like nobody.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Said nobody, So you don't want nobody said that? He said,
show got up, got up.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
He said, my shoulder, y'all gonna see this test.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Finally, he was like, what what happened? He's like, he's
just been getting tattooed all night. We were like, okay,
you got like, well, what did you get on?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I let her? Let us see?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
He was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
The Five seconds later he was over there, fully neck
and short as to.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
So, whoever his tattoo artist is, I want you to
know he is very proud of your work.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Okay, because that man.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
He walked through this stuff like that was acting. That's acting.
One on one, that's acting. That's how you got it.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's so funny because you can't really be like, I
guess you could say, hey, I got a tattoo, y'all
want to see, but that might feel a little weird,
right if I had. Guy's got a new tattoo. I
want to show y'all. So he had to lead us
in what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
He's been in here two minutes?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
He was like, oh my god, I love it.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Wrong with y'all?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I missed all that though.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Man, that's why I was laughing so lot old timey man.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Look, that's yeah, you had to get seen. Let's jump
into the day's topics.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Wait wait, wait, we didn't talk about what your tattoo is.
Do you want to tell that or no?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Oh yeah, I can tell them not. I hope people
don't copy it. It's all my late, you got it.
It's all my favorite album artwork, not my favorite albums,
my favorite album artwork. Okay, So it's like on one
side and the next on the other side, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean it's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
She did a great job, like on both shoulders, I'm
getting on both shoulders. So it was like that was
just like the first session.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So how many albums did you pick?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I in total about eight, so I think it's four
on this side on this.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Four or five on this side.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I really liked the I don't want to tell your
tattoosse I want to steal it.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
But what albums would you get if you had to get?
I'm tattooed on you?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
H favorite album artwork is tough because I'm just thinking
to my favorite album.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
We know you're gonna put a future album on you
for sure future okay, else.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
You know what I'm saying. But d S two is
my Oh I think I would put the hand from uh,
what's the one that had layup? What's what's that Monster?
It wasn't monster, it was what mixtape?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh you're gonna put a mixtape on you?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
See how see how you just telling it that?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
You see how she do?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You see how she just like set me up for that.
You gonna put a mix tape on you. It's about
the artwork, artwork. I'm just going with my favorite albums.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, my would be strictly that it was strictly that.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's strictly the album artwork, you know what I mean,
Like you think about it like, I mean, they all
I think really good album too.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
So you're not gonna put on artists that you don't
like just because they got this. You're putting literally good
artists and good artwork.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah know, Yeah, it's got to be somewhere like you
know what I mean, Like, it's got to be an
album that I liked.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay, I gotta be album. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I'm not good at tattoo ideas.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Stop stand up mic I.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Do want to get a mic on me, but that's
so basic. Everybody, everybody knows what you do. Get a mic.
Of course I'm gonna get a mic. Like get like
a stand, just get like a mic, and like curtains
behind about you put you got the baby there?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Put the mic next to the baby.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
That is crazy. You know what you can tell us,
Shad put a bird from Birds of the wrists and
you should draw the zoo around your birds.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
That so mean? These have a very deep these a.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Very deep Okay, so what's the meaning of the bird.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
This is my dad, father, my dad, mother, my brother.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
How dare you took it? Even?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Taking nothing serious?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
All night?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Not? You want to go to the d C.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's wrong, y'all talking about my family?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Liken't say nothing about family.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
What your albums would have been, that's all I.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Wanted to know what you would put?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
You want the real truth?

Speaker 5 (14:27):
The Chocolate Factory. That's my favorite album.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's amazing, amazing album.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Bro, that's the best album in history. Then I have
to do Usher Confessions. I don't eve think Confessions have
had album. It was Usher face you.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Got standing up with I think Chocolate Fact that chock
have a Cane that it was like it.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Was like a present, like a gift with a so yeah,
because I couldn't go off artwork. It would be like
for me, it would be like my literal favorite album.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And but you know who got a dope album? Coup?

Speaker 5 (15:11):
I think with Michael Jackson, one of them albums where
it's like the eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
And a bunch of crimes.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You should do that?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
No, why, I don't know?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know, grab me. I love Michael Jackson. That's one
of my favorites. But I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I would probably you should just get Michael Jackson. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
What you ain't get Jackson? What is your sorry, let's
move on my bag you can get you know what
I mean? Like he's gonna start now. You know what
you should get? My bas on? You get a piece
of puff? Then you used to like pizza puffs?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I did love you gotta have something Chicago, and you know,
I'm sure I.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Got plenty of you know what you should get? I
got the Skyline, I got the Flag gluten free? What
like gluten free?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Get it like blue free? Yeah? That's actually it's a conversation.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They like why you got that? All right, let's get
to this. Oh, first of all, let's do this. I
thought this was overkill. I saw this the trailer for
Chris Brown History of Violence. Uh do you think it's
fair what they doing? And Chris right now this who's
making this dumb ass documentary?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I am a I am.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
A self admitting Chris Brown apologies. So I don't like it.
I don't like it at all. I feel like it's
a reach. I feel like at this point in his career,
he's grown, We've seen the transformation. If now, what they
did say was that there may be a new victim
in the documentary. If there's a new victim, I sympathize

(16:48):
with the victim in your story. And and if Chris Brown,
I will eat my words. I will apologize if if that,
you know, if there is a victim. However, I just
feel like, what are y'all doing? Like, what are y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Brouh?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Why on a random Tuesday was this your project?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Like it feels a little because I and I hate
to play into this because everybody, you know, with Diddy
and everything that's going on, it's like the attack of
the black man. This really feels like y'all really got
an agenda at this point, and I don't like it,
and it made me feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'll just say that I think that companies now are
in the business of making money off of people's pain
and the way they have found a way to make
documentaries about people without their consent, and they can just
round up and talk about people and say things just
because I mean, we know that Chris Brown had a
violent pass when he was seventeen years old. Yep, it's

(17:48):
almost been twenty years. You know what I'm saying, How
can he not? When is he gonna be able to
be forgiven and move on with his life? And then
you say you got a new vig But why is
what's the documentary for?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
That's what I'm saying. If that person is a victim,
then they need to either I mean figure it out
civilly or with Chris or criminal charges, figure that out,
you know what I'm saying, play it out through court.
But this documentary thing, and then this station is playing
the Chris Brown document That's all that is is a
headline to create content to make money off of. And

(18:21):
I feel like they are abusing the abusers in my opinion,
I mean, I mean the abusing the abused. Yeah, it's
a good way to know what I'm saying. It's Trump Like,
I don't like Rihanna got a whole family. So now
you're gonna put up back through it. Yeah, you're gonna
put us. I mean a SAP is basically that their family,
husband whatever boyfriend about to be a husband.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
You putting them.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
All through this trauma once again for no reason. Chris
Brown just comes off of an amazing tour.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
You know, people are talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Hey man, we want to see him do the super Bowl,
and then you're like, ah, we're gonna throw this out.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's just a weird thing. I just think.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean twenty years ago, Oh my god, like for real,
twenty like stop just stop.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Now. This is another interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
We see R Kelly and his daughter, with R Kelly's
daughters and son, his ex wife. They're all coming out
telling their side of the story with the documentary.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
What do you think about it? I got a different
take on I got a different take on it. But
I mean I'm not saying nothing's wrong. You're gonna hear
my take. Yeah, my take is if that's my dad,
and I get it, like especially like you think the
junior Robert Kelly Jr. That's tough, and you know, being
a daughter going through that problem, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm not telling people how to deal with their pain,
and I don't know what their relationship with their daddy
is and how that goes. But I just can't my
daddy in jail already. I ain't nothing else, ain't nothing
else really could happen. My dad has done some crazy.
I don't really know if I would if I would
participate in I don't know. I don't think it's a
you know, maybe they want to share their pain.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, I think they do. And it's like I told you,
like I stink it's all about money.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I think the the.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
The networks want to make money and they and it's
it's an easy this is an easy sale right now.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
These documentaries are almost like the new reality shows, like
let's just throw some victims up, you know, interview and
put it together, and you know a lot of stuff
is like it's a it's a whole. I mean, I
know we talked about r. Kelly, but it's a whole
one with Diddy. It's it's a one Hulu threw one
up on there right now, and he ain't been I'm

(20:34):
not saying didd he was right, but he still hasn't
been found guilty. So you can come up and you can.
I think the thing that bothers me is that you
can publicly tarnish somebody's life in their career without being
found guilty first. And that's that's just too much power,
you know what I'm saying. I just feel like that's
too much power given in the wrong put it in

(20:55):
the wrong hands, or people who just want financial gain.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know, it's you think it's his kids that want
the financial game, Kiki.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I think his kids absolutely probably need money at this point.
His ex wife probably looking for another check at this point.
But I do think that they have a side of
the story that they should be able to tell. I
would not have chosen this way. I maybe would have
wrote a book or you know, I don't know then
to sit down interview with me or somebody.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
But but why do they need to tell it?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Because sometimes you need to speak from your point of
view because you're a part of this. This has affected
your life as well being R Kelly's child, Like if
you want to get your voice heard or you have
like your story is your story, and if you have
been through something, you have the right and to make
the decision to tell it or not. So that's why
I think we have to be careful about when we
speak about how and when victims speak up. So, like

(21:46):
I said, if there is a new victim of Chris
Brown victim and they have decided to speak out, now
that's their prerogative. Because if you never did anything to me,
then I have nothing to talk about, as you know
what I'm saying, Like, if you never abused me, then
I have no story. But once you abuse me, it's
my story to tell and I can tell it how
and when I want to tell it.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So I'm not you can't really criticize.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Them on what they the decisions they've made to tell
it because at the end of the day, being R
Kelly Chao has affected your life everywhere you go, any
job you try to get, even if you try to
live a normal life, you're always gonna be R Kelly Chow.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
So you have a story to.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Tell, it's just and my things always the intention? What
is your intention on telling this story, Like, what are
you trying to get out of this? If it's just money,
then that to me, you look a little crazy, you
know what I'm saying. If it's you want to make
people aware of another allegation or something that he because
they said that his daughter is gonna speak about something
he allegedly did to her to further make sure he

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doesn't come out of jail.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Is that your intention?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Is that your intention to stand with the other victims
and let them know you support them, even as his child.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's all about to me intention.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
So some people tell their story for financial gain, some
people tell the story for other reasons, and it's just
about what is their actual intention. And when you look
at his wife, and those are people you can kind
of question, like, what are you doing Because you were
his wife, You were an adult in the situation when
he allegedly had children around and he was molesting children

(23:17):
allegedly and doing things.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You were there.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
So I don't really want to hear from you about
you know what I'm saying, allegedly, Right, So I don't
necessarily want to hear from because it's like so, but
his children they had to live through that and now
that they've lived through it, because they were kids when
the trials was going on. Now they're adults, and they
may want to tell they side of the story, so
they have the right to do that.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It just doesn't always come across.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I say, again, you got it right, But it does
seem like a bit of a piling on in a way.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Now I get it. You want to tell your side
of the story.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now, maybe you want to tell your side of the
story publicly in this space. You know, even his ex
wife tell her side of the story in this space,
son to everybody telling it because you want to kind
of distance yourself this this piece of art or whatever work.
You want this thing to sit, so now you could
kind of distance yourself from it and start a new

(24:11):
I thought about that, maybe this is like a hard
reset button for.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Them so they can move on.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
But so, I you know, it's it's it's it's tough
to tell people. Like you said, it's tough to tell people.
It just feels I just like I know when I so,
I was like, that's my dad, and I you know,
I just would I just like, yo, buddy in jail,
ain't I ain't really ain't really much more we could do.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
I don't know if you would feel that way though,
if that truly was your dad and it was affecting
your everyday life to be a child. Yeah, because I
think I think that's the best point kind of how
you put it is a hard reset because you want
it as a Now they're adults, so they maybe want
to speak out and make it clear that they do
not support him in any kind of way, you know
what I'm saying, so that they can move on. So

(24:54):
it's it's weird, but it feels like a very weird
time to be a famous powerful because it's so Yeah,
it feels that way. But if you're not doing this stuff,
I have no If you're not doing this stuff, there's
nothing to hunt because I look.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
At fifty key key.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
We know you know a Zach that a lot of
this stuff that these brothers I get accused of, right
or wrong, we're wrong. It's still other people from other
races doing this, and it's still it does seem a.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Little witch facts it does.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
And that's the only thing I'm not I agree with
you when you say, hey, this person, it's personally if
you're not doing wrong ain't nobody gonna be able to
get nothing on you.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
But it does feel.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Like, yo, like everybody, everybody's getting their stuff called to
the front is black.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Right, And and I understand.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
And that's the thing you can always as people, you
can always live on the fact, well they did it, okay,
and we understand it. These people, these people did it,
you know what I'm saying, or allegedly did it. But
a lot of times black people are black men and
women our escapegoat for things that have been going on
in the industry, and other people are doing it. I mean,

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R Kelly is behind bars, can't even play his music yet.
They just made a movie about Elvis and he married
fourteen year old girl. That's public knowledge. Everybody knows. It's
no surviving Elvis. It's no Elvis to creep. It's not
that's he's still honored as a hero.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
That's what makes us feel like it just feels like
that's the attack part. Now, you did have to do
something wrong to be attacked. To your point, Kiki, I
totally understand that, and I'm not trying to take up
for their action, but we turn a blind eye to
certain people doing the same things and then we'll put

(26:56):
all the blame and earnest on the black men or
who that they are trying to get down. Now, black men,
just lets you know, don't do nothing that they can
take you down for, because they will. I don't care
if your white counterparts are doing it. It can happen,
you know what I'm saying. They gonna come get you.
So know that, and you have to be smarter than that.
But that still does not negate the fact that these

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other people are doing things. Yes, and you know, we'll
get a bone here and there, but it don't be
the big stars, or it be in the news cycle
for a little while, then you don't hear about it anymore.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Meanwhile, our hero is through through the news cycle every day.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's four or five.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
I told you, Diddy ain't even he ain't been in
jail two weeks and he ain't getting bailed and got
a documentary out already.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, it kind of like, oh, y'all just decided to
turn this clock. You've been doing this, and today was
the day that it was like, oh now it's m okay, okay,
R Kelly family, Okay.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
But that I mean, it's very it's very hard to
separate it and defend it. I get exactly what you're
saying about the Elvis thinging about other genres of music
and how they have done even worse things and they're
not being held accountable. But when you look at the
things that Diddy and R Kelly are being accused of,

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it's just like there's no.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Defense for you.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
It's not it's nothing that because you you have you've
allegedly done these things and it's proof there and there's
things like that. So it's like very hard to defend.
But like you said, I think as black men, unfortunately,
it's that constant reminder that you are not equal and
you do not get the same grace that other people.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It was underage girls in the Playboy, Oh.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Hugh Hefner Elvis. I just watched a documentary on Vince
McMahon from w w E. It's it's it's insane the
stuff that they turned the blind eye too. But it's
that constant the face of it, and I think that's
the issue. It is like we become the face of it.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Playboy is still active a company, all types of stuff.
You can still make money I'm pretty sure his family can
still make money and live off the legacy that you
have to build, yep, without it being destroyed.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, but this is a reminder that life ain't fair.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
All right, let's go ahead, and we had to go there.
That was tough.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Let's get to this Cardi B. Blast all set, key
key on the live.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Good for Carty, good for Cardi B. It seemed like
she's standing up this time. It seemed like she is
truly over or getting over off Set. And you know
what was the most disturbing thing for me was when
he responded and said I won because you're my baby mama.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
That was all to me.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
If I'm like, when you say something that lets me
know the type of person you are, you are a
dangerous man that I have no business being with.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
And so I'm happy that Cardi B.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
It seems to be standing up, taking her power back,
getting on her business, being about her business. And I know,
Zach say, she's still going live. She still this, so
she not over it. But that lady left her newborn
baby and wouldn't handle her business in Paris. I feel
like were getting a new Cardi B. And I'm happy.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I mean, so that statement is where you was like, oh,
he said I won. He called himself a winner for
having a baby with Cardi B. And you said it
for you?

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, because what are your what were your intentions? You
telling me what your intentions was the entire time we
were together.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
No, yeah, no, I'm saying he's saying, at the end
of the day, I'm still your baby daddy.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I won. You still got to deal with you trapped me.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
The rest of that was, ha, I trapped you.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I trapped you. He was married.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
That's how it sounds though, when I were to say
I won, you're you're always gonna be my baby mama,
that's like, ha, ha, I trapped you.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You're stuck with me.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Maybe a trap you can trap one time, you can
maybe trap twice. You don't trap three times. You've made
choices to be with me. That's a bit. Let me
tell you the part that was nasty for me, you know,
he said that was the part he said he won. No,
the part was when he was like, hey, you had
sex while you was pregnant, and then she said and

(31:21):
did yes.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I don't think she did.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I don't know if she did. We don't know if
she did. I'm going with no, but I just you
talk about the type of person you are. It's certain
things in my in my world, the way I live
my life that I'm not gonna do because I'm morally
not who I am. For example, Let's say me and

(31:47):
a girl get into it, she messed up my card,
all types of stuff, she cuts me out, blast me
on the internet. I would never post her new pictures.
Just something I wouldn't do because I'm not that type
of do some work back to the car. I'm not
that type of person either, But you have a better
chance of that then, you know what I'm saying. Just

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certain morally, I don't feel right about that because I
feel like that that ain't right. I know she did
me wrong. I know we in this situation, but I'm
not gonna do that. And I just feel like morally,
having sex while pregnant it's something that's bigger than a
man cheating on you. It's like, oh, that's some that's
some stuff that's within you.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Like you. You ain't exact.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
I wonder what type of women you you never well,
actually I do, tho, what type of women I do?
You ain't never dated like a real hood ass ship before.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
You know, that's not my thing that now I have.
I'm telling you this is all. Even if she did
she want to, I've said still like, nah.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I don't think I got too much respect for Cardi
for that. I don't think she did.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
But she playing with him, She put it on his head.
That's what a hood chit gonna do. Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
She gonna play with you and play with your emotion
and manipulate you. They cutting to the white meat. Instantly
you make a hood cheek man, it's up and it's stuck.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
So you think I was just too I'm gonna say
something to hurt you so bad, and.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I'm gonna feel with that.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
They were going back and forth, whatever they were going through,
they were going back and forth and they were trying
to one up each other. And then she was like
dud and like, okay you I'm you're gonna try to
mess with my character. I'm gonna play with you.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Then I think that's that's really what it was. Now,
that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I respect that CARDI make him cry, you know what
I'm saying, make him cry. If that's what it took
to make him cry, I ain't mad at you.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Because bo, man, why is every this is the thing, like,
why is everybody surprised at the dude that been cheating
on Cardi Beef of Day one kept cheating on her.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
It's not like, why are we tweaking?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I said it before when he got caught the brother,
I said, hey man, the flesh is weak.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Being amgo got to be crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
She got with him at the height of Migo liss
like like he ain't gonna be able to stop off set.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I ain't had this type of women before. He was
offset as a migo. But the offset crashed out though.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Offset crashed out though because you you know, let's be real,
let's be real. No, let's talk about it. Let's talk
about the migos. Quabo was the one that everybody knew originally,
and then and then take what was the one that
was wrapping his ass off? And we was like, oh
my god, Offset. We started looking at the offset as
an individual got with tardy b facts so you can't

(34:34):
you know, dude, she put you in position.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
She did, and the women you did you just say
before the pod, what when you gotta find chick a
bad chick.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
It brings others bad.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
They can't stay they can't stay, can't here Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
You're not that you're not You're not living in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
You were in Atlanta. You know how many if we
all know, and I know, we can ask dudes to
do this. If you hollering at a chick, that's bad
that everybody like I think it's bad, but you didnet
got her, and everybody like, damn, tone got her. That's crazy.
Now everybody feel like she cool. They want to holler.
They want to holler at her.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Because they want to pool that they on the same
level as you. You not above him because you got
this super bad chick. I get this girl, I got
this girl.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's just and that's the same thing that I bet
a lot of those women are throwing themselves at offset
like yo, like yeah, CARDI thinks she all as I'm FeelA,
like like, I hope we don't think. I'll said, can't
be crazy enough to think that her ops are smashing
him because it's him.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Boy, your potting. I don't know if it's a tattoo
or what you are potting.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
You are potting last, like yo, what.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I'm saying, it's just like you don't he can't possibly
think like yo, I just got lit like this and
all these chick you got it, you.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Know, and he ran it up. Yes, he ran it up.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
And she's you supposed to know too. The first two
like baby, you bos a bit gone, but you know,
off set was probably telling us some shit that God are.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Locked in that's right.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
I mean, you married and you having kids with somebody,
and you truly think that y'all in a partnership and
this is my partner in life and we're gonna have
we're gonna create this amazing life, and we're gonna we're
gonna look out for each other. We're gonna protect each
other because we both in the same industry. So the
same way I wouldn't want to embarrass or disrespect him,
I would hope heeople have that same level of respect
for me. But when you give somebody chances, every chance

(36:30):
you give them is letting them know that they can
do it again. And so I think that's that's where
Cardi messed up, is giving him chance after chance. I
know you don't because you probably a man that needed
some chances. But every time you give a man a chance,
you're letting him know that. Okay, what else can I
get away? With and that's what happened with them. And
I'm like, tone said, I'm so glad you said it

(36:52):
that I didn't have to say it. That people like
offset forget who put them on you, forget who you're married.
Read too, because I'm letting you play in my face. Now,
you to forget who I am, So let me remind
you who I am. I can go out here and
do exactly what I couldn't. I could do what you're
doing times ten. It's gonna hurt you, and it's gonna

(37:13):
hurt you times ten. And not only is it gonna
hurt you emotionally, it's gonna set you back career wise
because you have to appeal to a f.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I don't believe that, Okay, I don't believe, but I
think as.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Far as moving in them saying rooms like he was, we'll.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
See you're not gonna get.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
You're not gonna get.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
But I mean, I'm saying as far as like being
he did the career that the Migos got, they jerseys
and the Raptors already, it's up.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's up. Ain't nothing bringing, ain't nothing anybody could do.
At this point.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's many hit records as much as they done for
the culture. For that loan can take that jersey out
of they good, he said. But as far as like
what you're saying is like the room, those certain parties,
those type of movement, because you got to think this
lady getting called by the by the vice president of
the United States, she just will everybody know Cardi b
moves the needle. She's a different type of time. She's

(38:11):
definitely a different type of time. But as far as
like him not being able to do what he do school,
he gonna be mad though, because I wanna let every guy.
I wanna let every dude exact, will agree every dude
mess with your baby mama, bro, mess with her and
mess with her like this, you gonna be mad, bro.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
She she don't care. She already know you crushing girls.
You seeing her with another dude is going to destroy you.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
And another dude holding your kid around your kids like
imagine that Russell Wilson's stuff with Sierra.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I'm gonna say this, Ladies, don't listen to what.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
All right?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
And what did I say? Key Key is all against
second chances. And she said that's why I see. She
was making some good points and then she was like,
and that's why you don't give nobody no chance, because
they're gonna plan you. You teaching them to live. That
is not true. There are plenty examples of guys with
second chances who have got their life together.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
A lot of.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Times guys don't be used to the pressure, they ain't
used to that attention, and they get something and they
fall weak, and then they come out of that and
after you almost after you almost leave them, and they
see their life flash before their eyes, they get their
life together. I e jay Z, he was he was
out here a week and then you see jay Z
had to move. He ain't even did nothing else. You
know what I'm saying. It's a lot of people who

(39:35):
have cheated who have came back and got right. Okay,
it's not it's actually more of them. Judge matthis is
currently your boy, my boy. But Judge, Judge ain't playing.
He said, I'm getting my wife back. He proclaimed that
to the world.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's what I'm hated on that too. I don't know
why they was mad.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, some people that were say and stuff, They're like, man,
he played hisself by doing that.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And I was like, no, bro, David, what's the what's
the number of gig?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
What the that that like? The people that said I
was looking at this stuff. I wanted to get in
the comments that go crazy, but go ahead. I mean,
I was like, yeah, go get your lady back when
you got to get your lady.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
But you got to get right. You got to get right.
You cannot come back to my dug playing and you
you you still you steady out here playing. And that's
why I don't respect y'all giving Cardi B any type
of negative feedback about anything she does. From this point on,
she has given this man years of chances. She has
been embarrassed publicly over and oh, you're down to the

(40:43):
casino with a pregnant lady and I'm at home pregnant
that you have embarrassed me eighty five thousand times, and
I have had the right and I have had to
recover her.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I had had to recover from that.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
So at this point, I don't give a damn if
Cardi B Is having sex while she was pregnant or
in labor, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I have done everything I.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Can do to save this relationship and try to make
this work, and you have given me your ass.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
To kiss repeatedly given an ass.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
So there's nothing else that Cardi B needs to be
held accountable for whatever she do from this point on.
If she wanna do anything, she has earned the right
to do that because she has given this man ample
amount of chances to get his stuff together.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You will tell your fraternity brother, you would tell any
your best friends, like you gotta know when you gotta win,
you gotta know everybody like when that's really every man
has jagged off a win, like oh, and then like
you think about it, like, hey, when you get Cardi B,
your boys don't love you. I ain't gonna lie if
said my homie, I'm like, hey, g I get it.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
She tough. And I see how they on your ass, bro, Paul,
I see how these women is at you.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
You got hubb Bro, you can't they tell it like
everybody like that's the thing, like like and I get it.
It's Atlanta. It's women, some of the finest women in America.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Living in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
So I can understand. The flesh is weak. Bro, you can't.
You can't be in Atlanta doing you can't be No,
you off set. That's the other thing, like you not
talk the pone you all set you can carry. You
have to tell you we you go night night.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Shots. She's taking a picture of you as soon as
you fall asleep.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
But I don't because they're not even messing with you
because of you. That's why I was saying you pot
and so hard, because they're not even messing with you
because of you. They're messing with you because of me,
all after you because of me. Bro, They not to them.
You are a trophy to them because of who I am,

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not because of who you are.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
And that's that's the.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Part that like dudes be tweaking like these women not
even on you because of you, on you.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Because of who your girl is.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
That's the wind to them to know that they slept
with the same man that Cardi be sleep with.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
She's my fans, she's not even your fans.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
So why are y'all women so just low down?

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I can't say why.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I just want to talk about that, Kiki damn. I
just because this is a chance where we can get
on the why is it that women feel that they
need to try to destroy? You said, it's not even
for It's not for offset at all.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Why does it that women want to destroy other success
like women? Why why is that jealousy?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Envy? Simple?

Speaker 5 (43:51):
And I can't really relate because I've never been that girl.
I'm me, so I ain't never been you know what
I'm saying. I ain't nobody other man a trophy to me.
But you know, Mariana Judge mathis so outside of that.
Ain't no other I ain't never looked and be like
I want him because she got them. That's a different
type of woman. Only I can't even speak for them

(44:11):
because I ain't never been that.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's a lot of them, and it's a lot of
male and females. It's a lot of them out there. Yes,
I'm telling you, bro, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I've lived it.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I've literally I literally took my girlfriend her birthday. Ain't
nobody really ever seen us seeing her like that at
that one point at that time, and all of a sudden,
all the promoters DJ's everybody following.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
She's showing me like she's like why they following me?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
All of a sudden, Yep, I'm like damn, And I'm
like what And I'm in my mind back I said,
if one of these dudes say anything in this DM,
I'm gonna have to say something because that's corny. But
dudes will do that to you because they want to
say I'm on the same level or his girl like
they want to It's a lot, it's honestly, bro, it's

(44:56):
a lot more of those type of people out here
that will try to just do stuff just because you
got him, just because you lit, Like are you lit?
And you hollering at her? I can holler at her
to watch. Hey, look, bro, this girl you know he
took out. Look it's this girl right here. She had
my DNS. Look, she'd be liking my watching my story.
All that little corny ship.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
It's it's weird out here.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So why do y'all do that to each other?

Speaker 4 (45:23):
I don't know, because well kick he according to you,
we're dogs and we don't y'all God, And wish I
could say something.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Can you please say it? Got a new tattoo?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
At hated on Bro?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
He talking about Devil's He may in Devil's avocate. He
know that he didn't hot at some chick and one
of his one of his older fraternity brothers, one of
the one of the homies. Somebody did something weird. We
did and all because nobody even thinking about this chick.

(45:59):
But Zach Buok brought it around, and it's way more
than type of people in the world.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I promise it.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yes, that happens all the time. I mean, I get
what y'all saying. But all I was trying to say
is that every time we have Kiki right in the
corner about women, well she would have to admit that
all women aren't morally sound okay, Usually that was what
I was going to She's you know, every time we

(46:26):
bring up a woman discussion, it's always the man's fault,
the man's fault. But this time she was like, these
women ain't even dealing with the man because of the man.
They're only dealing with the woman man because of the women.
And I'm like, okay, key.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
So while all these women.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
So and morally I mean, don't have any morals. So
now you want you want men who aren't used to
all this attention to be able to control themselves around
loose women. Now, here's the thing around loose women is to.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Loose women. That's all we are trying to say.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
A loose it's bad you You like, oh, she ain't
talking to you because of you. In that moment, you
don't give a damn why she talking to you? All
you know is she won't you, And that's that's and
in off sets case, that's why I said, chances are okay.
She gave him a chance the first time, she gave

(47:20):
him a chance the second time. We don't even know
how many times she's gave me. It's after a while,
we know publicly, after a while, you stupid. Yes, I
always forgive dudes the first time. I'll be like, man,
I understand it was tough on you, but you almost
lost your family. But now you just keep going and
keep going. You obviously didn't want to be there because

(47:43):
I know men who stopped. I know men who have
stopped their whole life. Kikey relationship. It was like, bruh,
when I get drunk around fine women, I don't know
how I be in their face. But he stopped drinking,
stop going to the club, like he figured out ways
to be Like, I have to stop putting myself in
these positions where I get weak.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Offset doesn't.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
No, he continues, and CARTI explained it perfectly. She said,
he has he never felt good enough for me anyway,
and that's why you gotta get Nope, Nope, you.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Got Nope, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
That's fair, and that's the truth. You have to be careful.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
You have to be careful giving somebody a chance who
may not be on your level or at your or
at your level. Because you get in these relationships and
you dumb yourself down to make them feel comfortable within
that they both forget. You both forget. He didn't forget
who you are, and now you done forget who you are.
So therefore now it's like in offset situation. The way

(48:43):
Carti explained, it is like you knew you weren't good
enough for me. You knew you could never live up
to be who I needed you to be, so instead
you rebelled against me because you knew you can never
be the man I needed you to be, So instead
of being that man, you went out. You embarrassed me,
You cheated on me. You try to make me a
fool because you're trying to bring me down to your
level because you feel like you never you will never

(49:05):
be able to get to where I am. She said
that we in the house, She said, you never felt
like the man of the house because I'm me and
I can't do nothing about being me, a real man,
a real a smart man.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Play like a sap.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Gett ready go to counselor says, I have been going
in there.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Thank you off, I mean thank you a sap. Yes,
perfect example.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Acept played this role right, but I don't think it was.
I think Cardi got it a little mixed up on that.
It is the insecurities. But when you feel that way,
he wants to feel validated. So he'll go mess with
women lower than him because that woman makes him feel
like the man that he wants to feel like. So
she's saying the things that make him feel he makes
more money than her. He can impress her with this

(49:53):
and that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
And it's not that Carti not doing her job.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
At Carty not doing her job.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Is that I'm me and I can't help that on me.
I can't that.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
But also you have to, you know, as a man,
you gotta know your role and what she wants you for.
I tell dudes this all the time. Y'all think every
woman wants you for money or.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
This or that.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Like he's so used to that, dude, she wanted you
to just be a supportive partner. She wanted you to
be a father, she wanted you to be like. She
would have probably did whatever you did wanted to do
when she saw you come up the steps with the
folded laundry, or you know what I'm saying, having those
flowers when she got home from off tour, or the
phone calls, being on FaceTime with her. She wanted the

(50:38):
things that probably didn't even cost no money. You know
what I'm saying. But you feel, you feel a way.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, And that's what.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Acep realized, Except like I can't impress Rihanna is a billionaire.
Ain't nothing I can do financially for this woman. But
you know what I can do. I can be in
this maternity shoot.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna embarrass her.
I ain't gonna embarrass her. I cannot be Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I ain't gotta go outside. I ain't gotta do I'm
gonna play this video game made some music.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Kids steal the man.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
You know you more than man.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
You You are such a man. And that's why like
but you. It's a certain kind of man like Nicki
Minaj I. Don't you know her husband, whatever the rumors are,
battle that man be standing beside her. And when I
look at her When I look at them, I don't.
I don't feel like I feel like he her man
because Nikki respects him like that's her man.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
That's also comedy. That boy, that boy folks them people
have career.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Ni man, she found him.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
That man got about that thing? Yo, you want me
back or bet that's joy.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Sometime because they y'all, actually, y'all, I go to you
know what, I got her bag far?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I got that she just bought her engagement ring. She did.
She told me to propose next week. So I'm trying
to put it together.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Out of day enough boss ass women in my life.
I was like, Yo, sometimes you just gotta be cool.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And a lot of times you just think you're gonna
be getting ran over, because sometimes they do try to
run you over. You got to be like, yo, like
what the are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
But that's when y'all acting crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
It's for women to deserve to be by the goddamn self.
Well that's true that you found that in your chest.
Don't need to be talking about the goddamn self. That is,
oh my gosh, someone deserved like yes, yes, be lonely,
no man, be by yourself. Or fine by the week man,

(52:58):
but most women you could. We don't know Cardi bi
or nor do we know Offset. But from the outside,
from outside looking into their relationship, the way Cardi acts,
you can't feel like it's not she's not demanding of offset.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
She can cut air conditioner on in her person. Y'all
didn't hear that she got an air I mean the
person just started going off.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
My fan go ahead, y'all to make me get.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Hot off on his own though it's on the time.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
We had time anyway, We ain't talked about We talked
about nothing. We had fifty three minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Come on, we got seven more.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
We got all right, right through the topics righting five.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
We actually really stopped around fifty five to see y'all know.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
But okay, what do we got? All right? Last topic?
I lost the topics? Hold on, let me get the topic.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Final final thoughts?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Are we done? No?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
No, she doesn't, she said, talking about you want to
talk about? Boosy responding, uh, do you want to talk about?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Young bird? Okay, we can't touch this before we get it.
I thought this was a good one.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Young Bird. Hit Maker excuse me.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Hit Maker says that Drake and Kendrick's beef messed up
the industry.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
I love hit Maker, but what do this got to
do with you? I really love hit Maker.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I do probably he's a music guy.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
He is, but not on that front. Hit Maker make
my favorite songs. He ain't making Drake he.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Wait of me? Kendrick is that hitmaker? Dude? I have
to give it.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
It's my favorite hit I said that he makes my
favorite songs. He makes songs for me. What do that
got to do with Drake and Kendrick?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
What I'm saying that it's just caused so much tension
in the industry that it's like it's messing with people's
creative spaces.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I just want to know more about what he's talking.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
About his creative space with the people I.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Listen into, who you who are you producing?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Okay? All the R and b wrecord hit Maker?

Speaker 5 (55:07):
What do that got to do with Drake and Kendry
Is what I'm trying to like, how is that in
your space?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
How is that? And you know what I'm saying, I.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Feel I feel like.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
I'm I'm just figuring out what is he talking about?
We love hit Maker, but what what do you what
do you mean? It messed up the industry in what
regard like that. I thought maybe he meant that the
industry felt like they got to pick a side, and
they may not want to, but you don't. You ain't
got nothing to do with that. It's called min your
damn business, right, It's called mine, Yo, damn.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
That's all he needs to make my shoulder hurt. I
want to see.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
He need to do some mind your damn business.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
That's it. I get.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Just do what you was gonna do anyway, unless unless
it's more than this.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
But what are you?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
What is he doing that? I mean not, come on, no,
I know hitmaker. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying
hit Maker got hit but I'm saying what has their
beef done to the industry?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I would say it has made it stressful. It seems
like it's a little stressful because it's almost that pick
a side. Anytime a beef is like this, you always
and pick a side.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Mode.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Nobody wants in this day and age, wants to pick
a side because they all got business outside of this.
The people are doing business and they working deals. Do
you really want to make you really want to say
something against Rick Ross? Don't care Rick Ross doesn't care
because he got whatever money he got and they got
they records or whatever. But if you want to say

(56:33):
something bad about about a Kendrick when he on the
West Coast, everybody loves him. Now you just took a
whole reasion out. They not gonna mess with you because
you don't mess with Kendrick. Oh Drake, Oh this is
a dude that could start up a career. Do I
say something about Drake? As we all know, a Drake
Coast sign is everything that dude don't have to do

(56:54):
nothing but jump on a record.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
So it's it's probably a little tense to me. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
I just felt like, man, I just I mean, I
don't know, we could I went and looked at his
full comment, and he said, Kendrick and Drake really f
the game up because now there's no bar or standard.
Don't nobody got nothing to aim at or copy off of.
Now the hottest rappers in the game are women. Besides future,

(57:20):
It ain't no dudes running home to make a beat
or song in competition with a woman.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
I don't get it, but I don't get I don't
get it.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Okay, I get okay, it's.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Slow, don't.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I don't get what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
All I know is that he's given the goat his props.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Oh no, I have to give it to future, the
new I had to the dude to be this old,
older and still making records that like everybody.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Like, it's crazy. He's been doing this crazy. I gotta
give him. I gotta give him some credit.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
But I will say this, What he is saying is
nobody's trying to elevate themselves.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
The guys ain't looking at the girls. This real competition.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Everybody said, Hey, the girls are doing what they doing.
They making good music. Maybe they competing against each other,
That's what he's probably saying, but it is.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
It is a fact though the guys, the guys is trash.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Right now, or maybe y'all just can't compete with the
girls that are.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
The girls are following a very simple formula, very simple
for what's the formula. The formula is go back and
listen to hit records, and find hit records and find
cadences that work and fire it the same way that
older school rappers were using. With the rappers for my
decade were using what was before them, R and B
classic James Brown samples all of those different things.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
What the girls are doing.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
They're going back Projack, Pat Project, Pat A Ball, MJG, Bootsy.
You can hear the cadence, you can hear the beats.
They sampling some of the best artist of the word,
and the guys are trying to do what copy each
other's auto to him. If you listen to some of
the younger rappers and listen, it sounds like a Travis Scott.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Little UZI vert a little baby mixtape.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Just but you don't know who's You don't know everybody
sounds exact same because they usually the same plug in.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Okay, so since you all know the formula, then maybe
some male raffles she used the same formula and then
try to get out there and compete. I just don't
like what we say, Like, ain't nobody trying to compete
with the women? Maybe you just can't compete with the
women that are out right now. And that's the issue,
not that ain't nobody trying to they dropping records, they
trying it ain't charting. It is women aren't sold out.
Megan and Nikki seld Out tours around the country right now.

(59:31):
Everybody else I heard tours were struggling, even your.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Goat, that's what you heard. I ain't seen it yet. Okay,
we don't know. Please go to your information. I haven't
seen nothing but the goat.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
She tried. Just about women. It's about the way.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But the women are.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
The women are putting it down like the women are
putting them making the best music right now period. Big
Glow got the game on lock. We love that, saying
Boston Ban Di lois boss Man d Loo right there
with her. You know what I'm saying, it's the it's
the mainstream, not I think Big Glow over boss Man,
Biglow over boss She got him over. But I'm just
saying it's the Let me tell you, the guys that

(01:00:12):
are struggling aren't. It's big Plug, Big extra Plug is
killing right now. The the mainstream guys are struggling, bad, bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Those are the ones that are struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And it ain't because it's and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
It might be because they can't get a Drake feature.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
That's it, bro, that might be what it is, a
Drake feature. Drake Drake quiet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Because the people who are winning in the male side,
mainstream side, are the people who got their own sound
and could always do their own thing like that is
like fud like Future Ride Wave is still on his ride.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
It doesn't matter what Rod Wave does.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
When he puts out his album on Octoby eleventh, the
Roadway fans are flowing to it. It's gonna be It's
gonna be a battle between him and Glow for the
number one spot. Right, that's gonna be big. Then you've
got Future. You know what, He's doing three albums this
whole this whole year. The people who don't need nobody
else are killing and all the people who need somebody

(01:01:09):
wanted to jump on Kendrick's bandwagon because they saw that
Drake was wounded facts because they ain't making hit records
and they own.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
It's gonna it's gonna be interesting. I still hated that
Ross and Drake.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
All the male rappers want to be podcasters. Let's talk
about it in the studio. Tell him, Zach, that's what
they want to do. They want to get a quick check,
get talk shows and talk and talk. That's all they
want to do. All the men want to do is talk.
A man want to gossip?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Do you tweet? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
The niggas in the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Studio ride waving Future right now, Tom Harriet in the studio,
Baby just put out a baby, said he in the studio.
I believe him, but just dropped it down. But baby
had the baby did yeah the baby and little Baby
said in a studio. Okay, well we come on now,
on now, but y'all just want to talk, do you rapper?

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Do you sweet I can't get in the booth, ain't
playing or Nikki Sweetie just came out with record And
that's crazy because the way you ride for Future is
really how you know, Nikki deserve him flowers to all
these years later, still.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
This is the first album them couple before that one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Cold, but that was some men. She put out this
tough Yeah, Okay, it's tough, and she's back. She's got
her swagger back, she's got her energy back. Shout out
to her. But Future never stopped. That's the only difference
since he's come out. He's never stopped. That's what makes
him go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
He not better than Nelly. I just said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Nelly is a very charitable. He is a great My
gold is jay Z. Nobody's better than nobody and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Just a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Okay, you might be right, But I know I'm knowing
he puts out an album every five years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
No, jay Z don't have to put out none number
it's in the raptors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Wayne would have done.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
I wish he would have just stopped at some point
and left y'all on red like I wish, because we
it's like he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
You know what I'm saying. He gave so much that is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
You should whole play it perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Did he gets out of there, He'll give you a
verse when you want to and leave, he makes you
miss him, you know what I'm saying. You know he
understands fit that fomo and that's what Drake gotta do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Now. Future doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
He doesn't make music to that level where he can
just be like, I'm not I'm gonna be missing and
then I'm gonna make y'all miss me because then these
young taking his style trying to be just like them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Oh you're in there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
So Future just got to stay on your neck until
he ready to stop. Yeah, and that's true, and that
it's just the different styles of music.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
They're still his stuff. If you stop for if Future
stopped for years over with, it's over.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
He they take something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
You gotta remind y'all that I'm the originator of this sound.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Stop it, let's get it. You know what I'm saying.
That's fact facts, all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Right, man, final thoughts we had that. We gotta we're
getting upload this. We gotta start.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Final thoughts, John amost and that m hmmm you talking
abou from good time?

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Yes, So I just want to post something now for
John Amos. That's that's my final thought.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Let me drink a little water.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, he didn't just die?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Oh my god? What is wrong with her? Don take anything?

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
You better not say he was only eighty four post
dying age.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Hey boys, what dying age?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Zach?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
You said?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I don't take nothing serious, So that's so wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Anything after seventy nine is a blessed family. Oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
They are people that are living healthy lives. Eighty four
is dying air. Okay, let's just look up. Look up
the average life expense.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
I'm not gonna do that if you take any ain't.
Let me tell you something. When I get in my eighties,
I'm just gonna be like any day now, because I
know it could happen. That is, I know it could
happen like when people died eighty four. You don't be like,
oh too soon, you'd be like they lived a full life.
That's what you say about people who lived eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Four eighty four years.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
He was only eighty four. You are yeah, what's wrong?
Would you final thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It's not?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Oh God, okay, final thoughts? Gee man, rest in peace.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
John.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
We appreciate the contributions you made to culture. Man with
good times and all that in his career. It was
absolutely amazing period. Love you, But come on, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
That's crazy. Make sure y'all registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
My bad.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
That was my last go ahead this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Make sure y'all registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Okay, to vote?

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
What's your final thought?

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
My final thought is to tell people to watch TSR
live Yes Thursdays right on the share rooms, Instagram and
a YouTube page. Yes Yes, five thirty Pacific, seven thirty Central,
eight thirty Eastern Tap tap In is amazing show. Make
sure you share those clips, put them on your story
and also, of course, what more can I say podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Y'all doing great man. I look at some of the
episodes I watch how the numbers start shooting up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Shout out to the new popfam, shout out to some
of the people that become popfam shout out to everybody
that sees us in public, and like, hey, man, I
listen to that podcast. I watched that a I love it.
Was a woman that came up to me in church,
came up to me in church and said, I just
love your podcast. Tell Kiki I love oh, I love her.
Shout out, shout out to her. And there was a

(01:06:43):
guy in soul house. You know you can see. That's
the why I always tell people. I said, when dudes
give a compliment, you always gotta acknowledge it. Another guy
to give me a compliment because we don't like the compliment.
Anybody don't handle it the right way. You got an
enemy for life, That's true. He was looking at me.
He said, amen, Hey, doys, gotta tell you man, I

(01:07:03):
rock with the podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Uh shot to everybody, cause we.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Met somebody today. Zack and I were at lunch and
the man he went shot. He didn't really give us
no love, but he said, y'all to no tone. And
I said, well, I said, you damn right, mister John, we.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Do no tone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
He gave us so many cards. He told all, He
told about every event he had going on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
He wanted us to be at right, But he didn't
know us. He just said, y'all know, y'all work up,
y'all know tone. So when they say that, I know
where they know us from. So shout out to you,
mister man, Thank you, mister man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Yeah here capit though, here's yeah, absolutely, What up? Nos?
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
All right man, let's go ahead, get out of here.
You already know what it is. What more can we
say