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April 26, 2023 • 44 mins
Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk R.Kelly Case Update, Political Beef and more!
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(00:02):
Hey, what's up? Welcome Georgia. One more? Can I say Podcast
Rider? What is the episode onetwenty? There? It is, episode
one twenty. Can't believe we havedone one hundred and twenty of these things.
It's amazing. Shout out to thepop fam. I'm only the host
talker, Paul. Let's get toit, man. She is fuffing and
fine. She's the first lady ofthe pot, the only lady of the

(00:23):
pod. Key. What hey,friends, what's up guys? I'm just
chilling's trying to duck the host.Okay, you dunking. I love that
for you. Okay, yes,we know. Never mind, just watched
the last episode. What episode before? If you want to know what I
am, Sam, I don't evendo that yet. I went to church

(00:46):
Sunday. I want to let Iwent to church Sunday. Oh yes,
yes, Easter Sunday. Um.I went to church, and I'm a
new man. Okay, yes,I'm gonna get who's church you went too.
I saw he was at your church. I was very happy that Zach
was at church. I know that, like most folks, you go on

(01:07):
Easter, you probably won't be back. Now I'm going I'm going this Sunday
too o'clock. That's my time.I like to eight o'clock service. Okay,
we're gonna see. I'll be watching. Make sure you check in and
let me know you that you seean Instagram video, thenything. I would
like to see your church. Youdon't see. Maybe I'm always I'm a
youth faster that is, I mean, not that you've passed no definite you

(01:33):
director, I really am you guys, wouldn't trust me with your children?
What you'd be having them? Kids? Do? We talk about Galorela?
We break down her lyrics. Youknow what I'm saying. That's why I
love him. A God will giveyou another tomorrow. You gotta tappy into
today. You know I'm making allmake sense? You know? Shoot,
Oh my god? But the personarguing with kid kids, Zach bug I.

(01:57):
Hello, we never can get toyour in trouble because he can always
let you have it this side everywith me. If you just be quiet
when I say how you guys doing, just say we're good. We can
move on. But he wanted totalk about going to church, like he
really gonna go back again. Yeah, we'll see. I'm saved and sanctified
and holy. First of all,I'm a preacher. Did you stand up

(02:19):
though? When they when they askedfor the guests, they asked where the
guests were, and they said waveyour hand, and he said, there's
a lot of guests here. Soyou didn't stand up. I did stand
up. They said, give yourguests a hub. You probably just didn't
see him. Okay. So I'veactually mitt church because I had I had
Bulls tickets and I couldn't get up. I couldn't get up, and at

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eight o'clock to go, and Icouldn't go by a normal time service,
so I watched it. I watchedthe service. I watched the eight o'clock
service while getting ready to go tothe Bulls game. I was on the
virtual ship. All he did wasthat just about boys game. But you
know, church, it ain't morethan anybody in this room, really,

(03:06):
way more way. Y'all got achurch every week. Y'all have to relax
because I have the most church inme. I'm a preacher's kid. You're
the closest to Hell. I'll preacher'skids. You haven't been a church on
a regular six days a week.It ain't work six days a week.
I was going to church five tosix days a week, and so I

(03:29):
had to take a break. Youhave to take a break from something you're
doing. Pks are the worst,y'all are the most fred meeting, choir,
rehearsal, us, your board,rehearsal, revival. Right, I've
got to come early because we gotthe early church service. Then after that
we're having a revival afternoon service.Got a guest speaker, Yes, my

(03:49):
grandma making the green beans. Wetalked about this act. What was it?
I know you play an instrument,because all pks know how to do
something seen playing piano, drums,something you do what you play well?
In the churchill I was in thechoiet. Okay, you're saying the choiet.
I was in the usher board.But I do play outo saxophone.
Though saxophone. He was in thequiet? Was you out to a soprano?

(04:11):
Just curious? What? And whenwe think about what he's done for
me, we think about okay,all right, all right, how he
said me free? We think aboutthat. I can feel the hell just
beaming off you. Stop because thedemon you are. I feel the heat

(04:35):
already. Oh my god, let'sjump into the pod man. Let's get
to it. Uh, let's talkabout this first. Uh, it's it's
unsettling. The text messages from Ithink is it what is her name,
zeal all Azrielle? Thank you Asrielleher mom about basically grooming R Kelly,

(04:58):
well, basically grooming her to,said U, R Kelly. We'll save
the female perspective on the pot forthe for the last last word, Zach,
When you saw these text messages,did you see it? First of
all, yes, I saw thetext messages, but the new information I
just got that that's as it's asRielle one of his girlfriends. Yeah,
that was one of the girls.That's real. Yeah, that was one

(05:18):
of the girls. I thought itwas just a random Oh no, no,
no, this was as Rielle's mom, mom who was saying that.
Yeah, I remember she was onsurviving Daughter. I want my daughter back,
o daughter, back lock him allup, all of them. This
does not make R Kelly. Okay, this is not no, no in

(05:39):
any way, shape or form,make with our key. Okay. But
if you you were an accomplice andyou gave your daughter to R Kelly,
that's why R Kelly was like,y'all killing me with this. You know
what I'm saying? I understand whyhe was frustrated because now he's like,
dude, you were giving me.You gave your child to me, not
that he should take it, butyou gave your child to me. And
now you're on lifetime crying trying toget that lifetime check. Lock the parents

(06:02):
up. To everybody who knew aboutthis, especially that mom, You've got
real she needs to do some timetoo. It's no way our Kelly should
be in jail by itself. It'sdisgusting, but she how does she get
to be freed up. Something's gottahappen. Some's gotta happen, bro,
They gotta do something. And thefact that she was on a whole it's

(06:24):
on Netflix too right now. Uh, that she's on the whole thing talking
about what my daughter bags just lyingon camera is nuts. It's nuts.
And I know this is nothing,but our Kelly's legal team like, okay,
cool, y'all, I'm gonna let'sget to them text messages. Though,
Let's get to the text because heknew it was something in there.

(06:45):
His lawyer's problem knew was something there. He don't want to be in jail
by itself. Look, it's gonnabe me somebody else too. When you
see this, what are you thinking? I mean, I'm sick to my
stomach, Like you know, it'ssad because we know he's a weird though,
right, we know Robert got issuesand all that, But Nina's like,
yo, damn, parents are weirdthough, so as as real she
didn't have a chance to win,Like she didn't have a chance in the

(07:06):
fight. You know what I'm saying, Your mother is pushing you out here
to do this stuff, and I'mjust looking at some of the texts dance,
grab his hand, shimmy, siton his lap, you know,
be a woman like who's what?And you want then you get on Lifetime
and cry about it and asks meyour daughter back. But you're the one
who set this up. So asmuch as we want, as much as

(07:28):
we want to hold our Kelly accountableas he should, we absolutely need to
hold the parents accountable. There shouldnot even be a question about it.
They need to be arrested, charged, held like, because how sick and
thirsty do you have to be totry to prop your child up for a
grown man like that is sick.That's it goes to the to the point

(07:51):
of what I've said constantly. Moneyand fame will make people, whether it's
low level fame, mid level fame, low level money, those two together
will make people do some weird things. And to sell your kid out for
try to get a record deal tomake her famous. You know R Kelly

(08:11):
did R Kelly? I mean,I mean outside of everything. So we
gotta remember this R Kelly, theoutside of the weirdo stuff was probably outside
of Oprah, the most famous personin Chicago outside of it. So now
you got this super famous dude,highly accessible, who has We've seen it

(08:33):
changed people's lives by just writing themone song. You've seen that, So
now they want that for their daughter, and then she's willing to go at
any limp to do that she actuallywanted for herself, which is disgusting.
They have to as a parent.I have two daughters. Technically, if
you want to say it, Igot three daughters. I got a step
daughters. I've been taking camp sinceshe was a baby. I'm saying like

(08:56):
four, I'm saying bro as thesimple fact is that you have to protect
your daughters. The mode you keepyour son from doing dumb stuff, you
protect your daughters. Bro Like andas the guy I'm thinking, I'm thinking
about that when they still married herparents. Yes they're still together, they're

(09:16):
still together to this day. Butlet's not let's not give too much,
not too much on the mother,because I feel like the father is just
as guilty. Absolutely, absolutely,he is just as guilty. It might
be the master man behind the wholething, because both of them was at
Our Kelly shows. Both of themwas groupies for our Kelly. We know

(09:37):
why. I will speak for me. I know a lot of grown men
in Chicago who was more groupy forour Kelly than women were. Oh yea
to this day will still kiss thatman feet. So I not too much
on the mother because I feel likethe father is just as guilty. They
were incohus together, and it goesto prove what Our Kelly has been saying
from day one, y'all are givingme. Y'all children, y'all are damn

(09:58):
they're forcing your kids for me.Doesn't make him write at all, But
they were definitely a part of it. And I actually have been hearing rumors
that R. Kelly will be gettingout soon on some technicality stuff, based
on things like this. Yeah,that is that I have I have heard
from the streets that they're like,our Kelly ain't gonna do that whole bid.

(10:18):
He's not doing that whole bit.And if the only thing, if
he doesn't do the whole bit.Now, let's just from a from a
perspective of a person that knows it, I would, God, my guy,
go get you some help, Goget you some help. Go get
this demon up off you bro,and just lay low. Don't do the
OJ Simpson thing, because I likethe O. J. Simpson stuff is
just atrocious, y'all. Just youcan't even stand to see him at this

(10:41):
point, and he always got somethingto say. But from a from a
perspective of a person that knows,R Kelly, man, go get yourself
some help if you do get out, when you make when you do get
out. But for as far aslike you said, the parents, and
I mean, I'll just say,alleged for purposes. This is not the
first time this happened. No,this is not the second time this has
happened. There has been plenty ofpeople again that have served their kids up,

(11:07):
served up their kids and maybe themselvesto try to achieve fame and money.
It is the wildest thing I've everseen. It does It does not
stop in the music industry. Itdoes not stop with entertainment. Entertainment is
a wild place and people will doanything to get in it. Yes,
and it still happening to this dayin Hollywood. Yeah, and I know

(11:28):
that, like you you were askingthis to Dad involved. Absolutely when I
saw that, when I saw thetext messages, Dad has to know where
he has to because you know what, because he was sitting right next to
her, fake crime and acting fakemad too, talking about because we were
all trying to figure it out,like what you mean you don't know where
your daughter is? What you meanhe's got a trap and he's got her.
I would have never even not tointerrupt you. I'm sorry, No,

(11:50):
I would have never even. Inever thought the parents were innocent from
day one. Never thought because that'slike a I have a twelve year old
daughter or fourteen year old daughter,and my daughter just gets with the King
of R and B. So mydaughter is like, how she get to
the concert? Why would I takemy daughter to the concert. How did
she get to R Kelly? Howdid she get backstage? As a parent,

(12:13):
my MoMA wouldn't even let me goto the Millennium to about myself.
You know what she shouldn't because weknow what I was trying to do anyway,
Like I don't know. It's justlike these little girls, the parents
was all in the mix and theyall need to go to jail. They

(12:35):
I've said it before, like andthis is and I want you to hold
you rule of any man um.I'm telling you, bro, do you
never let your girl go backstage.Backstage is for people that's working. Shit
you ain't then it's working backstage.It's not you're the girl that's not need
to be backstage. Your young daughter. I got young daughters. They're like,

(12:56):
no, no, that I'm working. I'm not gonna be watching Chris
Brown try to hilight my daughter.Because I gotta tell Chris Brown he could
talk to a NASC twenties is fine, That's what I'm saying. But I'm
saying I'm not gonna put you can'tserve you, You just you just can't
serve it. It's something nasty aboutsetting your daughter out. Something you're literally

(13:18):
setting your daughter out, and it'slike this ain't Justin Bieber. We talked
about so we didn't take your youto take your daughter backstage to meet Justin
you took your daughter backstation and meetthought king of R and B, who
has been sexual since his first single. It ain't like R Kelly was a
child. It's not like he didn'tlike in the Lange sex stage and married

(13:39):
a live that we had proof of. So like, how in the how
in twenty twenty or twenty two thousandand one, whatever that's happened, how
did you think it was okay foryour daughter to be introduced to R Kelly?
I just don't because they know thisis the thing. Though they know
I'm gonna this is the thing.R Kelly is like Drake in that way

(14:01):
of all you need is that ifDrake look at Young Blue when we were
talking about Young Blue without the firstrecord with Drake, that's true. Yeah,
that's true. The me goes Drake, Yes, Drake. Drake then
put on so many people, andR Kelly had that same has that same
type of power. Jay Z didn'thave that real kind of I mean,

(14:24):
yeah, stay property guys. Yeah, I had to give them credit for
that. But it's very few peoplethat by lining themselves with which you can
give you a career. Yeah.That and that's and that's all they knew.
They knew. Our Kelly writes it, Our Kelly sings it. It's
over with, it's done, nomatter. Look at stone in mind.

(14:45):
If I stroke you up, Ihad one record that fast, ye,
I mean that's true. I Ijust if I ain't gonna watch y'all.
I don't know if I should saythis, say it. It's a safe
space, Okay. I ain't gonnalie. Our Kelly get out. I'm

(15:07):
gonna be looking forward to that nextalbum. I want you to say,
I am gonna be looking forward tothat album. Not do another album?
You crazy? If our Kelly getout? What's the point of our Kelly
get now? He can't make music. No, he can't do another he
can't do it. It's like BillCosby, like you just got away?
When he can make an album,you gonna go? Who wanted to go?

(15:30):
See Bill? He actually was puttingwomen to sleep as sexually well.
First of all, Bill could sellout a Cobty tour if he wanted to.
He don't know if he wanted togo. The only thing about Bill
Cosby is eighty something. He's justcoming back now. I can't see.
We don't want to support Bill.Our Kelly. If our Kelly drops an
album. It's up, I wouldlike guys against it, okay, and

(15:52):
then listen you see what he did. I would see the type about five
to ten years, five a strong, five years, relax, maybe do
some quiet writing quality right for people, ghost get my money back quality.
I would give my folks a playingquality right for people, or thought doing
that anyway. Right now? Hemight be the Brothers songs that's out right

(16:15):
now, I believe not. Iknow. I Kelly when I hit and
the last couple of hits they hadhad, that's cal I was writing all
A few other people got some killshits too. What I ain't gonna say
now, Kelly, I believe.I believe he might be in jail,
pitted up some stuff, planting,you know, put the music. I

(16:37):
gotta hear this, Kelly. Kellyis still writing music. I just say
that, well, okay, putthe phone, get the phone to Kelly
like this, And I said,the funny thing is that, see I
you gonna have beachelling Kelly story.What please, Kelly? This one thing?

(16:59):
So you're talking to calls in themusic sense of it everybody. And
he literally told me and shagged tonsof like when he would call Whitney Houston
and Michael Jackson. So I waslike, so, how does that go?
Like you just like He's like,how you say? You know,
I don't really write a lot ofstuff down. I write my little notes.
And he said, but they gota sing it like I tell them
to sing it. If they don'tsing it how they tell him to sing

(17:19):
it, then I don't want towork with you. I'm like, damn
you, Michael Jackson. Yeah,I told Mike that was damn Yeah,
he does. But that's what yougot r Kelly there for. I mean,
that's true, that's but in mymind, I just and he doesn't.
He's not a writer like you know, he doesn't write a like you
don't know how to write, writenon read. I've seen him right and
we not for real, for realhave no I'm pretty sure, but I

(17:41):
don't can't. I mean, withmy own two eyes, write shit out
and read shit, okay, butI don't see him writing out. That
was them trying to add, tryingto make us feel sorry for him to
read something. Bill CONSTI get intojail. He couldn't see I'm legally blind.

(18:03):
I was really like, I mean, and I gonna say I'm not
an R. Kelly apologist if byany mean, Yeah, no, I'm
not. But the fact to tryto act like this man is an imbecile
and he's just happened to have thisgreat talent to write music. I'm not
going on it, bro, becauseI've seen him. He's not a dumb
dude, Okay, except when hemakes decisions like decision making. Decision making

(18:23):
is beyond question right, all right, let's go ahead, get to this.
Speaking of questionable decisions. Uh,let me ask you this question.
We saw the whole thing with theWhite House stuff, and we saw it,
uh with the with the LSU playersand you know, and I will
play. Was you still after allof that mess went down? Would you
go to the White House or wouldyou miss the opportunity? Me? Yeah,

(18:47):
I'm gonna absolutely gone. I'm going. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
come to Yoe House and I'm gonnaorder up everything on the White House mean
you, And I'm gonna put myfeet on Yoe table and I'm gonna turn
on BT on all the TVs,and i'm gonna going to I'm gonna have
a selfie, Sue. I'm gonnalive it up at the White House and
then I'm going home. You're notgonna trick me out of my opportunity that

(19:07):
I earned. Just as much asthis is your house, it's also my
house. My ancestors built it.It's on their backs. So I'm absolutely
going to the White House and I'mgonna order every goddamn thing or the mean
you times too. I'm gonna takeall the selfies. I'm gonna steal something
out of that too, Okay.I'm leaving up out of that with well,
Hey, I'm still a song gonnabe in my bro I'm coming up

(19:33):
out of that with Obama, pionor some I want something from the White
House. And I'm gonna also playthis up and make you address me,
Miss Jill Biden. I want toask you, why did you think that
that was okay to invite another team, the losing team? UM, after
I fought for the victory. Whydid you think that was okay? Let's
have this conversation because it's too Shewas too comfortable, in my opinion,

(19:56):
to do that. If it wasa super and Tom Brady just won the
championship, you're gonna invite um,y'all don't know. I don't know Jaylen
hurts him to the White House atthe same time, you would never do
that. But because I'm a blackwoman and you don't feel like you really
don't feel like I deserve this,you thought that was okay. So now
we got to address that and I'mgonna live it up at the White House.

(20:18):
I absolutely am. Come on,now, Zach, what about you?
Pro black Zach? You know youknow how pro black Zac thought about
it. You know, I reallythought about this and uh, first of
all, it's the White House,so they don't want ustand no way,
okay. But but outside of that, I thought it was really um.
I thought it was really mature ofAngel to decide to go because he was

(20:41):
like, my team wants to go. I'm riding with my team. Let's
not forget it is a team sport. I understand it all became about Angel
and Caitlin, but the LSU Tigerswon, okay, and it wasn't just
Angel versus the Caitlyn girl. Okay. So to deprive your you know,
you don't want all the attention isalready went to you and stuff, so

(21:02):
you kind of have to just belike, yeah, let's go to the
White House. And if y'all go, I'm gonna go. You know what
I'm saying. Jill was absolutely onehundred percent wrong in what she said,
But at the same time, itwasn't anything to make me skip the White
House. I actually actually would wantto do a Kiki said and rub it
in your face. You know whatI'm saying. Now, I am here,
how y'all doing. I'm knocking stuffover? Yeah, you know what

(21:22):
I'm saying. We're gonna have agood time. But I'm walking on the
ground. Yeah, yeah, down, walking on the line bad. Yeah,
I ain't know. I'm definitely takinga crapping out. Yeah. It's
gotta be some stuff that's that's gonnabe happening. Jill, were your pillow?
Mm? Well your pillow. You'regonna get this. I've got my
game war in Jersey for you.You know what I'm saying. But the

(21:42):
thing is on another level, Ithink that Jill Jill really has ruined this
election, re election for Joe.You know what I'm saying. Black people
was already Let's tell the truth,black people already on the fence with Joe
Biden. We don't know what Kamalis. We didn't even vote for Joe
Biden. Where we voted, Wevoted, where the hell is Kamala?

(22:06):
And we voted for her. Shealready was like, nope, I'm getting
to hell on. She got on. I ain't never seen nobody so active
the like the last thirty days ofher campaign and then fade to zero activity.
We don't know what. I lookfor her on Instagram. You know
how long it took me to findher Instagram? Not even Kamala. It's
v P. That's it. That'swhat a name is on Instagram. I

(22:30):
can't even find no Instagram. Bro. It's bro. It's such a big
deal to have a female, ablack woman, vice president. It's such
a big deal. But she isgoing to go down in history as the
vice president that no one saw.I ain't mad at her mess with dude,
that's the whole thing, buddy.She is not. That is a

(22:51):
that's black woman's stuff. That isthat's black. When you want to know
how a black woman don't mess withyou, she ain't gonna be around you.
That's it. She don't messing withthem. She can't even she can't
even be around buddy. It isno time to even see doing the speech
she backed a chilling. Only whenshe got to we had UFOs, she
ain't said nothing, Yeah, blackwomen, Jill Biden. This is what

(23:15):
I thought she's gonna pop up.Honestly, I get it. I get
it, And I ain't saying shewas supposed to contradict the first lady.
But I felt like we was gonnahear something from a little bit congratulating both
teams on a great time. Shedidn't even do that. She just like,
I'm out of it. She ain'tsaying nothing, Joe, I mean
nothing. I'm look, I'm gonnaI'm gonna if I see I hope to

(23:37):
see man and vice president at theessence fast, I'm gonna give a hug
for it, like yo, Iget it. No, I don't.
I don't feel that way about her. I'm not. I'm not a fan,
right. I feel endued. Ifeel endeared to Michelle and barat you.
I can't. I feel no connectionto Kamala. I don't. I
think I ain't gonna lie to you. I think she. I don't think

(23:59):
she real Zach, that's ps,that's not she did this to be the
first not honk. Honest, youdon't think if I had to look at
the situation from just being look lookingat it, I think she did it
to be the first black woman vicepresident so they could she could start that
trend and eventually be something more.She it had to be at She already

(24:21):
knew. She didn't write something.This is not how you get more first
lady black first lady presidents by notdoing nothing. Do nothing. We just
don't see. We don't know whatshe's doing. And I don't blame her
because let me tell you why,because as a black woman, she probably
worked so damn hard to even geton the ballot to get to that point.
She tied. If I was inthe White House and I got up

(24:42):
in there, I ain't doing noteither, you know why, because I
had to fight for my life toget in here. I'm tad. So
now I'm just gonna see it andlook pretty next to you. She was
black during the election when they neededthe black vote, when we needed the
black vote. She acted black assoon as she got in office. Then
she started calling herself Asian paying ageand she was. She did she caught
herself. Yeah, she started notclaiming all the way black. She was

(25:04):
a black woman. She was ana k A from an HBCU when she
was running. She got in thereand then you know, she started saying
she's Asian, so she can't sayshe did. She started saying she was
a Howard. The she she theHoward. Yeah, she went to Howard.
Oh that's a founder chapter. That'san hour chapter. Ak. And
I'm not even gonna say the lastthing. I'll tell y'all off, Mike

(25:26):
of my my real beef. Butoh, she to me she had to
like a work from home job.You know how you work from you win
the mice, the mouse a littlebit. You know, I'm here,
man, She got her laptop.You getting box braids? You got she
get boxed braids in four years.That's not right now, Like all the

(25:48):
way as I got my l time, I just looked at this situation that
said, you know what, I'mcool on it. And that's what I
think. I think. That's nothow you you look at the situation and
try to make some change. Cat, she came the first lady. See
this is this is my issue tosee this, This really bothers me,

(26:10):
This really pisses me off. HBCUsact is here now. I just found
this folded. You gotta let usfrom Jesse is happening. Now, that's

(26:32):
something else. Okay. What makesme really upset, though, guys,
is that when our people let usdown in office, we don't just say
they let us down. We alwayssay what they couldn't do, that's our

(26:52):
thing. They can't do nothing aboutthat. Well, they can do something,
because that's the way they was talkingwhen they was running for office.
What we have have to stop doingit's just being satisfied with the black face.
We have to be satisfied with someactual change and hold the black face
accountable. Okay, because I knowwhen Trump was in office, it was
sold. It was a whole bunchof presidential orders, getting them signed immediately.

(27:14):
Biden sat there, looked us inthe face and told us we're not
black if we don't vote for him. Then turned around the first weekend office
signed the Asian Hate Bill, nohate to the Asians. But the Asians
had only been getting hate for ayear from COVID. But he signed that
immediately. Okay, no legislation forour people. Yet we sitting here with
a black vice president and everybody gonnasay, oh, he can't do nothing.

(27:37):
We gotta stop that. We gottastop that. You can do something.
Everybody else can do something, butyou give us something. We ain't
got one piece of legislation for us, name it. Gays got legislation,
Asians got legislation, Indian burial groundsgot legislation. Yeah, and we have

(28:00):
nothing. Come on, man,and and you are right on all points.
But I still have to believe inthis point, right, because that
is the highest office you can achieve. And I felt like rocking uh and
Kama, these are and you knowthese are they are breaking there, the

(28:21):
first to do something, and Ifeel like it's the same way. Kind
of like a Jackie Robinson. JackieRobinson when he got into the Majors,
he was people kind of was onhim because he wasn't aka what they thought
should be black enough, and hewasn't doing a number. When he got
out the Majors, he definitely waslike yo, we and he was all

(28:41):
about change. But he was thefirst, so it kind of limited what
he could do. He just wantedto be in there so he could be
like, look, we belong here. And I think that's the same thing
with then we're breaking new ground nowto the point of not having any legislation,
and we had to know too asa fact of this, and I
wanted to get this across. Isthat why I was mad about at the

(29:04):
first lady. I was upset whereI thought like I probably wouldn't have gone,
or maybe I guess it's a teamsport I could have got talked into.
It is the fact that yo isthat I get. I personally get
upset because black people out the onlypeople that they try to tell how to
feel. Yes, we are,try to act. It's still like a
little slavey on it. They wantto tell us how to act, how

(29:26):
to celebrate, how we should,how we should. I mean he had
grown ass men calling a woman that'sin her twenties are basically young enough to
be there. Those guys that wascalling her pieces of ass and she and
dumb asses and all of that,Well, it's young enough to be their
daughters. When you talking to herlike she crazy, and that's nuts calling
out of names. It's many otherways to say, hey, you can

(29:48):
win, better, be a bettersport. You calling all out of name,
it's nuts. Um. So Ifelt like I just felt like that
as a as a country, wehad to learn how to let people be
who they are, let black peoplebe who who they are. We don't
tell. I said it's on theradio before, like we don't tell We

(30:08):
don't tell people, for Irish andSiting how to celebrate Saint Patrick's Day.
We don't tell people how to celebratethe um that what's what is the Chinese
New Year? We don't show upand no other cultures. Single to Mayo,
we don't tell our Mexican homies howto how to celebrate Single to Mayo,
don't tell us how to celebrate anything. Don't tell us how we're supposed

(30:29):
to act. As long as we'rehaving a good time, let us be
cool and to the point of likeno legislation. And I wanted to make
real quick is that is that Ithink it's coming. I think it's coming.
I do think it's coming. Ihave faith in that. Years later,
Yeah, y'all both make really goodvalid points. I just feel like,

(30:52):
like I understand because we was madat Barrock for the first his whole
first term. He ain't doing this, he ain't doing that. He but
it's it's so much more than justthat position. It's all different, Like
you do have to have things workingtogether. Trump was able to get a
lot of things done because everybody's racist, they're all they all agree. He
Congress, senators, all these peoplearen't just like him. So it's much
easier for him to get things donewhen you're not on that team. Zact,

(31:17):
Seriously, it's harder. No,it's not. Okay, let me
tell you something. These people arebagged by Democratic by political parties, just
like Trump was. Trump got alot of stuff blocks too. Okay,
he didn't get everything. He wasn'tdone, but he did. He flexed
his power to the utmost because hedidn't care. Okay, I'm not asking
him to be like Trump, That'snot what I'm asking. All I'm saying

(31:37):
is time after time, the Democratsleave us out to dry. Yo,
I agree, I agree. Andthat's to be the issue the power.
The Republicans just back Trump even thoughthey don't like them. A lot of
them don't like them, you knowwhat I'm saying. But once he became
their representative, they went behind themwhatever he said and didn't talk stuff behind

(31:59):
his back. Democrats what they dois grab a black face, put us
in there, get us all riledup, tell us everybody else's racist,
and then leave us to dry timeafter time. And so now I think
our generations, especially Kiki, we'vehad a chance to vote for three presidents
election, three elections. I thinkso since we've been able to vote,
least like old enough to vote,our generation tone now has been able to

(32:23):
see the war, We've seen thegame. Now see our first time vote.
We was excited black President Obama.Right, we heard about how bad
Bush was, saw Trump right now, we saw Biden. Now we're like,
hold on now, Now this fourthtime I get a chance to vote,
you got to show me something morethan telling me he's racist and he's

(32:44):
black, right and he likes andhe's not Racis our local politicians accountable?
You gotta hold your senators accountable,You gotta hold your congress accountable. I
think what we do is wait tillthere's a high position like a VP or
a president, and we like waitingon them to make all these changers.
But we don't even go out andvote for our local people who are a
part of this whole change to makeour changes happen. That's that's that's the

(33:07):
missing piece. And I think weput so much anger on a VP,
but you ain't keeping that same energyfor your local mayor or your senator or
your representative that's down there, likeyou gotta have that same energy across the
board to make changes happen. That'sall I'm saying. You do have to
have that same energy. Accountable manBrandon Johnson. But yeah, who shout
out to may and Brandon Johnson.But but the thing is those people aren't

(33:28):
campaigned to us. We don't.You never you don't see the commercial of
the senator from your what's the name? And it's probably a reason for that,
you know what. I'm We're goingto ignorant. We're going to the
voting booth blind and that and that'son us. We know president vice president.
Once we get to the other stuffthat's on that ballot, we be
guessing like A yes, we'll belike I don't know him. Oh well

(33:53):
it's a D by him his name, so you just go by, well,
I know Democrat, Black vote votvote for Democrat. Now you may
not know this. You might havebeen putting somebody in it's gonna do something
that you're against, So we don'tknow. My solution is not with politics.
In my opinion, I'm going toABC you back. But I just

(34:15):
I just feel like until black peopleare independent, you know, until we
pull our resources together and are independentand do not need them, that's when
stuff will change. That's the onlytime stuff will change. But as long
as they can get us riled upwith racism, we will will fly off
the handle. It doesn't matter ifyou say, somebody racists, we're done

(34:36):
and you never have you ever heardanybody campaign for the Asian vote? Have
you ever heard that? Have youever heard man, I really need the
Asian hate the Asians. But I'msaying, have you ever heard a president
and be like, yo, you'renot Asian if you don't vote for me.
They don't even campaign to them.But that was one of the first
people that got something done in Biden'sadministration because they know at least they know

(35:00):
how to get stuff done. Obviously, the Asian community, they know how
to move the needle. You goout here in Chicago, you go to
Chinatown, there's a whole town,like the whole part of the city that's
ran by them that they and theyrun their stuff tight. We don't have
that. I just need and that'son us, Like that's what I'm saying,

(35:20):
Like we no, it's not justdon't see, it's easy for us
to say it's on us yourself tomake an educated vote. I'm gonna push
back on this one, and notto just not not trying to change it
to a race issue, but fora very long time, and it still
happens. I mean, we've seenit in the way people get their housings

(35:40):
and pray houses are praised, andand and business loans. Um. For
a very long time, Black peoplecouldn't even get small business own loans to
open up their own businesses in theirown communities. You gotta think about it.
We weren't able to get it.What like, we weren't capable like
everybody in the hood and have agood credit score they are. We all

(36:00):
got bad credit scores. And weall got this because you see in our
neighborhoods that there are people outside ofour neighborhoods or from not from our neighborhoods
that are thriving businesses in our neighborhoodbecause they was able to take advantage of
as food, the mobile stores,the corner stores, the groceries. We
weren't able to get those loans.They Oh, I'm not speaking about that.

(36:23):
I'm speaking about educated voting. That'sit. Resources And no, no,
no, that's I mean, they'veset us up to me. I'm
not saying nothing about the resources.I'm talking about you just have to make
an educated vote. When you talkabout politicians and you're mad that the VP
isn't doing this, and then thethird if you voted for her, then

(36:43):
you need to ask yourself why youmade that decision. And it don't just
start with presidents. It starts withyour local government. That we a lot
of times go in blind and ignore. That was my point. We agree
when it comes to resources, communities, things that underprivileged areas in the city,
how other communities together, how allof the businesses and black neighborhoods are
run by ages or Arabic people.We agree when it comes to that.

(37:07):
I'm just saying that when he's saying, like the VP, it is we
have to make educated votes and wehave to put people in the bright places,
and we now have the opportunity todo that. If we're not educating
ourself about it, it's we can'thold nobody else accountable. If you're admitting
that you're going into vote the votingbooth guessing, then how you mad at
the VP? You gotta if you'reguessing on the damn voting sheet you help

(37:28):
to make a decision. Yeah,I guess, because I think voting is
the last thing we have to do. You know what I'm saying. I
look at it like voting is it. That's not where the solutions are.
You know what I'm saying, inmy opinion, as a solution, if
you not voting for the right youvote not vote for the right person.
Have we ever had a Chinese mayorin Chicago? How can you be mad?

(37:51):
I'm not even worried about none ofthat. I'm just saying, this
is the thing. This is why, let's just bring up the man in
Chicago, perfect example. Let's justlet's take it local. Then Yeah,
I'm gonna maryor Chicago. This iswhat I'm said, Mayor of Chicago,
Right. This is my personal beliefabout it, And this is what I
believe about the next coming election cycles. I believe that the next coming election

(38:14):
cycles are going to be they're gonnawork more favorable towards black folks because I
think people are becoming more educated.That's why I think Mayor Brandon Johnson got
in. I think they people tooka really hard look at his competitor and
they looked at him, and theywent down and they dug deep. They
didn't just depend on the commercials.I think they really dug deep. And

(38:37):
it's like, what are you gonnado for us? What are you saying
you're gonna do for us? Whathave you said in your past? What
have you done in the past.Like the fact that our president called black
people superpredators, it's nuts well ina sense, he called superpredators. And
so my thing is this is thatum, it's gonna become because of social

(39:00):
media, because of everything that's outthere, their amount of information is out
there. It's going to allow peopleto make more educated votes. I feel
like this next presidential cycle, whoever gets whoever becomes the Democratic or Republican
nominee, they are going to have, They're going to people are going to
dig deep into everything that they gotgoing on and make it more informed decision.

(39:23):
Like I said, like ice Qwhere he said that he had that
contract, Like, Yo, whatyou're gonna do for black people? Bro?
And then I ain't gonna lie whenwhen he said when when ice Cube
said Joe Biden wouldn't even take ameeting with him, I said, oh
no, it's over with it's overwith and that was just my thought.
But but we will vote for theperson because you know what I'm saying,

(39:45):
I think that was the last timepeople are gonna do that. I think
I think that's I think that's whyI said, That's why I brought up
it's our third time. We didn'tknow that's our generation's third time voting.
And now we're sitting here thinking lookinglike, oh, y'all kind of got
us messed up. Y'all think it'ssweet you think you can just say anything
to us and not hold hold usaccountable. But guess what, whoever the

(40:06):
next election, Like, Okay,I'm doing my homework. Come on,
I don't care. I don't careif you're Republican. I don't care if
you're Democrat. I want to knowwhat you playing on doing. But us
now, for really, I ain'tgonna lie say it again. Trump had
it pop. I ain't saying heright. But all I know is we
hadn't got it. We had wegotta Stanny Cincy Man go he free cod

(40:30):
that we had Stimmy ain't saying somemessed up stuff. Ain't did. But
guess what we was outside gas wasa dollar? Hain't it three man,
we was out here rolling. Ihad no spaceships. All right, look
what no just UFOs. Trump wouldhave had a problem. They got us

(40:53):
that stuff, and I want tolet chin to know do it one more
time. We've we're blowing your whole, your whole country up. How you
feel about that? Joe Biden camethrough. It took him for five days
to even shoot it down. Trumpwould have shot it down. It wouldn't
even like we got what overwear she'sshooting down. It's getting shot down.

(41:16):
He's over there now shooting now.It had been done immediately. Oh my
god, let's get out of hereon this. I'm gonna get Cardi b
U great, yeah, Cardi,Now you know what. I'm closing the
pot up. Man, you can'treally after that. It's nothing else you
can say. Really, we justwe had a great pod. So let's
get to it. Final thoughts,Kiki, Um, y'all stressed me out

(41:37):
today, drained me um love y'allpot film, that's all I got.
What do you mean we stressed youout? Why? Why? Cousin Kamala,
Yes, we loved stressed you out. You gotta put an air tag
on to what is adin't had done? Was she working from home? Zach?

(42:00):
Final thoughts, bro don't like HBCUSA, No, I do like HBCU,
Zach. I just don't want youto tell tell people don't get informed
about their vote. They should like, there's no reason we should be guessing
judges, but we do. Wedo, we know, but I'll be
googling. But you do need toknow because that's that's the judge that's gonna
lock your cousin up for twenty years. That's the judge that's, you know,

(42:21):
locking black kids up for weeks.So what are they? What are
they about? What are they all? You know? That's so that's yeah.
Final thoughts, is that's it,Jesus, we bought politics up on
the pod things got serious kick inexactly. They don't like each other,
this this this pop but we'll fixit. Don't worry about it. We'll
make up in the after meeting.Hey, it's all good man. My

(42:44):
father thought, is I do I'min a great move that hell with them,
dude, they be mad at eachother. I'm not mad at I
do want to say, um,are we going to the podcast Festival?
I'm going. I just bought myticket I'm going. I'm going. I'm
going, and I guess what doyou mean? I'm going? Ki ki?
We gotta go. Okay, wegotta y'all want to see us.

(43:07):
You have to see us. Wegotta be doing to be going live.
We gotta go. Where the postis that we gotta go. Okay,
it's Atlanta. Okay, this theonly pot I watched. No, you
definitely watch eighty five South. Okay, we're going. We're going. We're
going. It's our first field trip. We're gonna go to brunch. We're

(43:29):
going. It's gonna be lit.Sure is you have a good time?
Yeah, turn up. Yes,I'm ready. I'm ready. We outside,
We're gonna be you outside Atlanta.Big ten Tim is not going nowhere
with me, so Atlanta. Sodon't even don't even do that. What
do you mean? Not? No, y'all crazy, don't start playing with

(43:53):
me. Absolutely not up. Thatwill not be a Big Tim period.
Okay, d y'all see the issat. Stop playing with y'all, Stop
playing with Ever I met him once, ya will never see him again.

(44:13):
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