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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, y'all, welcome to it.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And one more, can I say podcast episode riding where
we're at bro one seventy three.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to it, everybody. I'm want your hotel, the phone.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Woo whoo whoo.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Who thank you forget sacked?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, man, let's go ahead and introduce you to the
other members of the pod. First Lady of the pot,
the only lady of the pot, I like to say
instead of B b W.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
She is Fluffy and five names Ki Ki.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Hey, friends, Well, yeah, what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
What's up? So?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Uh where do the glasses come from? Kiki?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
What about my first?

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Speaker 3 (00:54):
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Speaker 1 (00:58):
How about you get off? That's free? Oh Sun, look
it out? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Alright, alright here, it's a funny man of the part
little bro zach Bull.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know what I'm saying. Let's had a big down
South Killer, Let's have it right. Yeah, cool, We're good.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Why aggress because I've been fighting for my life before
the party even started.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So but what we were all right.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, we were debating is about s i U Carbondale
and Tennessee State. Now, although Tennessee State is an HBCU,
I said that Carbondale we had some of the best.
We held down probably a good ten years would players
ball of college funness. It's legendary shout out. And I
don't know if Tennessee State had that the whole run.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
You're talking about a party for ten years, one party.
Tennessee State was a party every day. We partied when
stay through Sunday. Okay, it got so bad they stopped
Friday class. What they stopped right now, they don't even
have classes on Friday because they was like if y'all
be too turned up on Thursday, Okay, nobody was in school,

(02:15):
nobody was coming on Friday. It's this is a different
it's a lifestyle. You're talking about a party. Ten homecoming.
TSU homecoming let's lasted over one hundred years. Home coming
is probably lasts over one hundred years. We had some
strong parties in s i U two. I'm pretty sure
y'all have. I'm not saying I heard about playing. It's

(02:37):
a big deal, y'all. Y'all did y'all big one with it,
but it shouldn't be compared like he keeps saying, key
thinking comparison this disrespect and I get it now. It
is now I get it because you keep trying to
compare a Carbondale party to t s U and it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
We party every I don't know even you every that
magnet did. Did y'all ever have a party every Wednesday
at noon? We have won Every Wednesday. It's called the Courtyard.
Every Wednesday you would go to I would go to
Macy's and get polos because I knew I was coming

(03:15):
back at noon and.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
On everybody on Wednesday at.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Noon, everybody's out there, the DJ set up, everybody strolling
the Greeks is stro It was a party every Wednesday.
My TSU people, please put in the comments tell him
about Courtyard Wednesdays. It was a consistent thing.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
We ain't had like.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It ain't like oh yes, student Center Mondays. Just the
DJ is out there and then different organizations hosts the courtyard,
so one week, the alphas that have it, one week,
the capitals that have it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
One week.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Let's say Kiki's in.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You know, you didn't need to have to necessarily be
a Greek women church women women.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
They might have it one week, but it was the
same I thought I was.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
It was some shape. I thought you were shying throw
some shape.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Let me can see you?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
And that's one of your church services, you say, all
other church.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I've always wanted to know that.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Can you see I can get out?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Can you church see? I could you know? Let me
tell you.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
So I joined the choir for one day and I
quit because it was too hot up there.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
So I can't. I can't do the choet. Okay.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I got to see you the lights, and I'm like,
you know how when they get good to choie directly,
like do it again, that's the end of the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But god, so yeah, I'm not made for it. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh my gosh, that was fun, all right, guys. Okay,
Joe Budden, Young Miami going back and forth, Kiki or
the Third City Girl was happening.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Shut out to Karesha and j C.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, so about this, I think both truths were you know,
both points were valid. You know, Joe didn't lie about
what he said about her, and she didn't lie about
what she said about Joe.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's all I really get about it, you.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Know, what I'm saying, Like he called her the worst
female rapper ever, there's no light there.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
She's a great person cute. I love her Instagram. She's
just not a great rapper. We all know that we
never loved Karesha for her rap skills. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
She's a personality.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, Joe, you're now also a personality. It took you, know,
your music career didn't go maybe where you had the
potential to go easy.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
He is a.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Personality about But see the thing about when people go
at Joe like that, Joe was nice.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Let me tell you one of my best Joe Button verses.
We ain't even start a fat minutes, so to take
my shades.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Hold on to think about Kiki. She's about to rap
geniuself again right now?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
How does he do this? Like out of the blues
like versions that she would never think?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
What makes sense though, in a minute, because guess guess
who song the verse song?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Marcus Houston.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
So if y'all ain't never heard up in the club
by Marcus Houston is the way Joe snapped on that beat?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Baby son?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I know Joe is ill, I know he's dope. You
know he will be in the club, baby, So I
do want to.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Mess it up.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
You know, Joe, you you ate that you did your
big one on that record, you know you did. But yeah,
so I think that Joe had potential to be huge.
But you know, he's had up. He's had up. He's
done a great job of staying relevant through his career.
He's been on love and hip hop, He's done the
reality TV thing. He now has an amazing podcast. I
love Joe, but what she said is not necessarily unstrue,

(06:47):
like he just got his gold plaque or something. You
know what I'm saying. So she tried to clap back
at him. Neither one of them are lying. But you know,
I just don't understand why we fight each other.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I mean, I guess a lot of it came and
Zach a little bit. I think it's more about I
just know I didn't think it just everybody looked at
the Karesha thing and the Diddy thing and how it
was handled, like damn. Even though I do think it's
no way you could tell me that Diddy it's not
still pulling the strings on so much stuff in Revolt.

(07:18):
He just stepped away. It's no way Karesha. Please, it's
still a thing without did he having.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Something behind it? It's nothing. I mean, like I said,
will did he ever be back in the front of
the camera? I doubt that?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But will he always be a businessman that he's been
his entire life?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I do think that that's true too, Zach. What you
think bro about?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
What about this whole thing? Man? You just don't even
care to you.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
About Karisha or Joe butuden talking about each other? Nope,
that don't me at all. But I tried to get
into the story. I tried. I tried.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I even looked at the clips.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
It did not move me at all. What Joe Budden
was saying was it was funny, though you had to
give it.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
He smoked a little bit. I get it.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I just don't like, guys, are you a girl so
about stuff like that? That's just it just it's just weird,
and especially for me to comment on it too, it
just feels like I'm being what I don't like, you
know what I'm saying. And then Young Miami laughing at
Joe Butden, she shouldn't really be laughing at anybody right now,
you know.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
It's kind of like y'all are both doing y'all thing,
and y'all both got it.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's why I'm believe it. I ain't got nothing for it.
I tried.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
That's that's all right, that's cool. We'll keep it moving,
all right.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
And I know that show brother, and I get it,
and I get it, and I understand your allegiance to
Joe Button and I understand it.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
If you don't put your damn figures down, it's just
they look just like and I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's why like this smack this outhers me.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
If yeah, I don't some stuff I can't do. What
are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I don't know. I just talk thinking it.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
It looks funny.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
This is funny, No, I know because I do agree
with him having a bit of an opinion. And you
can probably understand because I know, I know Diddy and
him were cool. Uh, it's just like and everybody saw
the Kresha blow up, and he probably just wants to
say a podcast, of course you're gonna you're gonna talk
about it, and Karsha clapped back the way she should have.
I do agree with Zach and you in the sense

(09:22):
that yo it was just everybody got theirs off, but
they steal both up, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (09:27):
So it's really not they got theirs off, but it's
just like we go from here and it ain't nothing to
talk about, right?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Are all them?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
It seems like a lot of men are mad at Krisha,
Like academics always is going at her. Then you got her,
Joe Button beefing, what is the problem.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
With h Come on, Kicky, now this is you Are
you doing this for the pole? Are you just are
you playing?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I don't do anything for the pot?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
The conversation because I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Why it is, this is why the whole thing, this
is the the podcast like, hey, well you you didn't
get it how I got it?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Kind of situation. We know how you got it and
it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well Karsha with with somebody really signed Karreesha to be
a podcast. We don't know, she is a personality. We
don't know if that would have happened or not without
a Diddy co sign.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
So a lot of people, like academics, even Joe Button
in a sense, got it out the mud.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
So to speak, at her success.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
So they look at they just look at it like
it's it's been bought, so to speak, because if you
I mean to keep it, let's keep it a buck.
Bro like to name Kreesha Please as the best podcast
over those last two years is an absolute joke. When
you got Joe Buddens, you got Academics, you got Drink Champs,

(10:43):
you got million dollars worth of game, you got what's
my brothers that do their invest invest angela podcast like
you come.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
My My Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Horrible decisions even though it's on that horrible cisions get
but they get topical too. So I mean the name
Kreia Please because of the level of guess she had
was probably a lot. That's what caused a lot of
people like straight up like they were.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Like, I'm gonna say this, come on, defense took her podcast.
She might have one of the only podcasts that I
know that every episode she put out went viral.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
The guests and she got she.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Did not have guests that nobody else. Ain't are you.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
A new gas in the the on Drink Chat?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
She the Black Opera. I'm not saying that. I'm not
saying that.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
I'm just saying she went every time she did an
interview it went viral.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
She did an interview, she did a hundred dollars for game.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
She did Bason with money on it.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
I'm not saying that, but that was their three hundredth episode.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
What's the name?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
She did?

Speaker 5 (11:56):
She did an interview with g Herbo and it went viral.
We' you know what I mean, interviews we've done with her.
That it's some stype of star power that she brings,
you know what I'm saying. So you can't and she
only had five six episodes. Who I think she should
have won Podcasts of the Year. No, but you can't,
but to like, it's something about people wanting to see

(12:19):
her talk and that is that's important, and people like
had to like they don't.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
People tune in to her.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
You don't. You don't have to click and look.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
But that it go viral because it's Coretian. She's entertaining.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
She's must see TV and everything she does she is
must see TV. Y'all say, she can't wrap, she must
see for that. When you do a podcast, you must
see that. When she do her whatever reality show, I
guarantee people gonna watch that.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah, she's saying she's not a star.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
But I said, I understand the people that had a
better podcast. Okay, fine, you had. Most of those came
off for good moments. The g Herbal interview was off
of the viral. It was off a viral momentment. So
y'all doing no, yeah, we're all doing it. But then
when you watch it the podcast, it still has to

(13:13):
be a good podcast. Like if you watch Drink Champs,
it's a they have a viral moment, but then also
the conversation is really good throughout. Karrisha, Please, how much
after the viral moment are you watching?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
None?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all
i'm saying. I'm not saying that she's not a star.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I'm not saying I'm not saying she's over. I'm not
saying she's journalist. All I'm saying Tammer Hall, No, I'm
not saying that she's a super journalist. All I'm saying
is when she come every internet she did, it went viral.
I don't know no other podcasts that can say that
every time they every time they put one out and
go viral.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who else can say.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
That that's true, true, not us. That's because we have
we have six people.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
We got like it's Joe Budd referred to as our
little podcast podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
He didn't give us the air quotes.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, but he was like, yeah, I saw this little podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
But that was our Drake Coach sign.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
We we appreciate the signe. We don't put our seventeen
hundred episode six people, six people stop doing the thing.
I just see you like, you know, we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
What's the song? Yeah? But they they twin twin?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Is that so why the girls do that? Because I
see that in the club all the time.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Now, it's just a sign.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
All right now that y'all go down weird. All right,
let's go ahead and get to this. Cam Newton, uh
kind of got bodied by therapists, you know what, the.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Same doctor Bryant's her name is.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Doctor Bryant, doctor Bryan. You a strong one. She had
me question in my life.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Whoa yes and fine beautiful.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh yes, beautiful woman and smart and smart and Cam Cam,
although it's very articulate, he comes and he was trying her.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. He couldn't
he was he was in way above his head way.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Way And the part of the interview that I just
loved when she was listening to him because he thought
he was getting her, and then she would just take
every piece of that argument and destroy it in front
of his face.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yes, she was cold. She was cold. That's what happen
when you deal with a real doctor. She knew what
she was saying.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Somebody said to Cam just because he dressed like that
across his legs, because he they said, Cam, just because
you wear the hats and the clothes across your legs
don't make you smart cause.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You dressed like doctor Susan that you Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
That was funny. I thought.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I thought some some of her comments were a little
bit when she was saying, like about the broken families
and stuff like that, I just don't like that. I
don't like maybe because Cam was saying he was choosing
to do it. In a sense, I hate it when
men get the broken family thing. When we get to
when you see a family that's broken, it could be

(16:26):
it don't have to be our fault all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It could be both people's fault. It could be her fault.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But you always look at a man as a broken family,
and in my opinion, to be honest, I mean, I
see my mama maybe endure some situations just to kind
of keep a situation cool, and it wasn't good for it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Wasn't good for it.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So I, you know, I think about sometimes like would
it been cool if I had to tryey try to
endure some stuff or what is it better?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's really no real right, right or wrong answer in
that one, because you just don't know how it would
turn out right.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
But that was the only part of that.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Conversation, And I was like, yeah, I mean you kind
of putting it all on him.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
What was the part I missed it? What did she say?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Which is basically like he's creating these broken households and
it was him, But he said he's doing it on
purpose in a way, and he's choosing to do that
opposed to like a person like me, like hey, and
all good intention.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
The households that I had, I wanted them to work out.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
What was his point of saying? Why was he?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
So she asked him how many children do you have?
He said eight, and she said okay, and how many
baby mothers. He said three, and then she said okay.
He said, believe it or not, and nobody asks him
for this. He said, believe it or not, I want
more and she said you want more what? And he
was like, I want more kids and she was like, hmm,

(17:44):
that's a bit irresponsible. And then it went from there
because in a prior statement, he was saying that some
people judge his lifestyle and call him low functional because
he has so many children and he's not married, and
she said that, she said, you are functional, and he
couldn't He couldn't understand why she would label him as
low functional. But she was labeling him as low functional

(18:06):
because you have created all of these different families that
you're not one hundred percent apart of. So these homes
are now broken because you have went and created them.
And then you are so bold and so selfish that
you want to create more broken homes without the intent
to marry and create stability for your family. So then
he did what a lot of men do is dance

(18:28):
around the topic. And then he tried to say, well,
my kids there with me, and she's like, okay, they
still broken families. Their mother's not in the house with you,
so it kind of I think it opened his eyes honestly,
even though he didn't want to admit it in that moment.
But I think she like flipped a switch from because
she was so graceful with it, which I love and
I try to I tried. I'm trying to work on

(18:50):
that for myself when I get passionate about a topic,
that I can be graceful and delivering my message instead
of cussing y'all out.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So because when I was a.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
One, I said, oh, she call, because I would have
flipped the table and been cursing him out at this
point because I didn't said the same thing three different ways,
and you're trying to like you don't understand what I'm saying,
and I know I'm clear, But she kept re explaining
it to him, like you have created broken homes and
he did not like that. So I think she but
I do think she hit a nerve for him to
realize that, for you to keep you just.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Had a baby.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
He just had a new baby with Jazmine the Jazzy
I think it's her name on Instagram. I really like her,
Jazzy the comedian. He just had a baby with her.
They're in what seems to be a relationship. But even
in the interview, he said it like he waiting on
God to send him a wife, and and it's like, hello,
you just had a baby, you know. So she's being

(19:45):
dragged all over the internet because of the interview. He's
being dragged all over the internet because of the interview.
But I think valid points were made in that interview.
And I'm shout out to doctor Bryant.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Shout out to doctor Bryant.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, it made me think about but I knew you
to get married. Am I ready to get married?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I would? I'm way better.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I think I'm better now in a sense of my
decision making process is better. It's never is that there's
things I actually have standards. I think a lot of
men we don't have standards for women like y'all have
standards for us. My man got there. You ask a
woman what you what she wants? She I want my
man to be.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Dudes? She find she fine? Can she cook? Can she?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Uh? And And those are those Once you get past
that stuff and you're living with somebody in the relationship,
you realize as you grow up, you realize that nice
way more than that. But then There's also the fact
that I always say that, Yo, I learned how to
be a man from my homies in the.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Street, a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
For my best friends fathers, and then just for what
I saw and learned on the fly. So it took
a long time for it to become all at one
opposed to have. And that's what you say when you're
creating these creating these broken homes. Shout to shout to myself,
because I got my son and I'm able now able
to try to mold him in these next few years

(21:12):
of giving him, giving him some framework to work with
on how to handle her situation.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
You brother, and shout out, you're getting your son, man,
you too, Thank you, brother, you too.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
We had a we had a talk.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, it was just it's always something for me,
like for me, and I don't think. I don't think
his mom's doing a bad job. It was just my turn,
Yes it was. It wasn't It wasn't even about you
doing a bad job or nothing. It's my turn. It's
it it's my turn. Let's go ahead, get to this man,
Judge mathis Ho Kiki, I know you shared a tear

(21:46):
when you saw this after thirty nine years of marriage,
they have called it quits.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Miss Linda. I don't know, Miss Linda.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Every started tagging me, sending this to me, telling me
it's my time. And I joke and say that Judge
Matthews is my old man crush. Everybody knows that. He
knows that I told him that to his face. But
Miss Linda, whatever he did, he's sorry. Okay, he is sorry.

(22:19):
Sist take them back. We can thirty nine. We got
to die together, thirty nine years. Ain't no, this is death.
Ro ain't no leaving. Nobody's leaving. Burn the house down,
change the weather, like jay Z saying, whatever you gotta do.
A Judge, you got to get back right with Miss
Linda because ain't nothing good gonna come to you if

(22:42):
you let Miss Linda leave. I'm sorry. I joke and
play around a lot, but I don't want to see
nobody lose a marriage. After thirty nine years, that's a
long time. They got grown kids, they got beautiful grandchildren.
Judge has worked. They have both worked hard to build
his fabulous career. Was the time for yall to be retired, relaxing,

(23:02):
traveling out there on cookie and magic boat.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Okay, they y'all.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
You know what I'm saying. Y'all supposed to be out
there with the rest of them, Holly, Dizzel and his wife,
all of them supposed to be black, you know, black
and rich and just living life. So whatever he did,
he forgot to take the meat out the freezer. You
got fair up. Since whatever he did, he is sorry
and it's time Fiada mind it. If y'all want me
to come over there and fix it, I will fix it.

(23:30):
I will talk to both of them. They will hear me.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm for real, y'all.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I feel like I have watched Judge Mattereses has been
a part of my life since I was like five
years old. He has been in the living room at
my auntie house, my grandma house. He taught me the
game all through college. If you ever want to learn
the game, watch Judge matteres episodes. He gonna put you
up on crackheads, thieves, drug dealers, all types of stuff
he gonna teach you about. He has been an intricate

(23:56):
part of my life. So when it comes to the Judge,
I don't play. I'm serious about this, Miss Linda.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
We can fix this. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Ain't worth it exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You see this, thirty nine years of marriage is an
awful long time for your wife to say I'm gone.
Do you even let your wife leave? I'll probably go
get a kidnapped charge.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
I mean, thirty nine years. It may I ain't gonna
lie to y'all. First thing I see it, I was like, man,
marriage don't work.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
It make you God, make you believe that. I'm sorry
to be that guy, but you believe.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
That after thirty nine years? Kiki, So it's working.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
If you done did thirty nine years and you're ready
to me to leave, guess what that means you You've
been mad the last team, right because you said that
women leave before they think. So here's what I'm trying
to say. If you decide to go at thirty nine years,
you'll leave. I'm just what I'm trying to say. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was about to add a little peace for go ahead.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
No, I don't know many marriages that have lasted all
the way through. And it's like it makes me feel
like Cynthia, baby, it makes it makes yeah, we shout
out to sit there baby. We interviewed her on our
other show on It's Our Lives.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Ain't no grand minds or none of your family still,
like all my aunties stayed with their husband, said they died,
and now how all they husbands just mysteriously died. But
then like a year, everybody husband just started dropping dead.
But they did stay with them, you know what I'm saying.
So marriages, I feel.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like you can't work. You might die, but it can work.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I mean, death is a part of it ending. You know,
till death you do it's part. So if death did
your part, it is what it is. I get it,
but I ain't seen many. So what I'm trying to
say is, if something every every like I'm taking all
kiky sayings today, every every every pot gotta lived, every
hat got lit, whatever the hell it was, every pot

(25:50):
gotta lid. So if you show me, if I put
twenty on the board and you show me one that
works the theory, you're not in science.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
You don't go with the with the one.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
You know, I'm saying, you're not gonna build the equation
based off the one because that one made it through.
You're gonna build the equation off the twenty. And what
I'm trying to say is if you look at the
totality of marriages, most of them failed.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
So is it a good idea? I'm just posing the question.
We keep saying this.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Okay, if if seventy percent of planes fell out the sky.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Of plane fell out the sky, how many.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Of y'all would ride them?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Like, I ain't look on that month even I wouldn't
go seventy.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
But be like my uncle. He got on the plane
to California and made so you should just jump out there. No,
you're not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You're not gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
It's not Marriage is the only thing that we see
continuously fail, but we keep trying to.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Do so you ain't getting married again. I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying in that I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
right now.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
All I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
All I'm saying is this, if you keep seeing something,
feel like, why is that?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Why is Maria?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
It's the only thing that we that I think, in
modern society that we continue to see fail at a
high rate, regardless.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Of whose part it is. I'm not blaming the gender
or race. I'm not saying I'm just saying it.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
You know what I'm saying, why that's the only thing
that we but we continue to strive for that's the goal.
I think some of its poor selection process in America.
I think, like what Kiki said before, or what we're
going to bring up our other show on TSR Live.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Or maybe being with somebody forever.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's a feel.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I don't know, but I know honestly, I think she said, like, Okay,
perfect example is this I graduating. You know, I transferred
a few times from colleges when and I finally found one, right,
you know, when I was transferring, everybody was saying, oh.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Man, you gonna get out of school. Damn, that's crazy.
Then were gonna get out of school?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And eventually when I got to the place that fit me,
I thrived and got out of school got my degree.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Nobody knows how long I was in school. It is
what it. I got my degree.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
So I think what I say that to say is
that a lot of times we fall into the pressures.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
If I had to said, Okay, I'm gonna stay.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
At this school, I could have been unhappy at one
school and then not try to stay there and maybe
ended up dropping out, not getting my degree or whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It could have ended bad. Well, I say that to
say about marriage.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
A lot of times people are asking, Kiki, when you
get married, Kiki, when you getting married? Zach, when you
get married, you thirty, blah blah, you thirty, You need kids,
you need this, And people fall into the pressures of
that society and then you pick something someone that may
not be the person that be your person.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
And that's what happened. Yeah, feel good, But then long term, long.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Turn, it starts to unwrap My question.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
One that that something my.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Question, My question is reverse engineering what you just said.
You said the society is saying, why you why you're
not married, why you're not married. What I'm asking is
why is society asking that question. What I'm trying to
say is why is that the goal? The reason they're
asking that question, because in our mind, the goal is
to get married and have children. But what I'm trying

(29:25):
to say is if most of these marriages are failing,
why is that the goal?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You supposed to free think, and I think it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I still everything on not being having the ability to
free think and following.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Dumb ass, dumb ass thoughts from other people.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Because I know half the people in them. Okay, half
the people can't get married. Because they can't find nobody.
That's a whole bunch of people. Then you got a
whole bunch of people who are doing it but it
ain't working.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
And you got girls that want to be like, I
want the marriage, so they going to afford that. I
want that.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I want to be the I want to be the
bride out of Benison wins.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I want to be the center of attention. This dude, Allah,
I know, but forget it. We gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
She know she not long term. Sometime in that situation,
they know it. They know it.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Bro No, both know. Both know.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I'm saying like the woman knows and the guy, so
gods get the same thing. Hey man, you about your mama,
tell her you thirty seven years old. You need to
start you a family, Start you a family, Start your family.
What happened you rush? What did you say? What's your
famous topic? Famous comment?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Dudes need to pick better baby mama facts exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
So what happens dude is trying to make a family
and then it gets in with somebody ends up trying
to speed ball of family in and he realizes he
didn't pick the wrong way he got he got somebody crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
You know our marriage is not working for real, y'all
talk to us, because ain't none of us living by
the Bible.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's the problem.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
It ain't none of us what living the Bible tell it. O,
my God, that's why it's work.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Y'all ain't following the word. Y'all, ain't reading y'all word.
Y'all out here just living, making decisions, marrying people. God
ain't told you to marry doing something. It's y'all ain't
following the Bible.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
And that is the reason.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Now, if you want to have a successful marriage in
life overall, getting your word. It's a it's a playbook
on how to do life. That is what the Bible is.
It is a playbook, literally all winning plays.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
You can't go wrong.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Tell us about the Bible.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
That if you want to it's the playbook to get
you through life. And if you follow that, you will
have a successful everything.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm just gonna keep.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
It real with I'm keep it real with y'all. This
is for the person.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's still working on me.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
But I want to get into success in life.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
You need to get your.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Word, okay, But it is true because you know you're
not supposed to have sex before.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
May you wouldn't even know nobody else.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
So you if you didn't have thinking about if you
if you didn't have sex before marriage, and you only
got that one piece.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
It's like, man, let me tell you something.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
My son's fourth birthday party was this weekend, right, and
I don't give him sugary drinks.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I do not give.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Him like And when I do give him, when he
does drink juice, I dilute it with so much water.
It's damnar water, all right, that's how much I put
this much juice.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
And I filled it up with water.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
He had a sprite for the first time, and I
saw his mind.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
This little boy asked us up. He grabbed that little
thing and he said, whoa. I saw him get his
first hind of that.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
That boy been reaching for friten.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Oh you man, yeah, and he said, whoa, I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
And they looked back. Okay.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
And that's the same thing.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
If you was a virgin and you never got a
taste of that coachie or young ladies, if you never
got a taste of that man doing you like that,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
We would all be much better off.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Problem.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Well, that kind of goes into what we were about
to talk about your your uh husband. We don't know
your celebrity husband. A Marion, he's abstinate, says, no, he
wants to there's mine.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
How you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I'm so proud of him. I am so proud. And see,
this is what happens when you don't rush things. Everybody
been pressuring me for the last year, when you getting married,
when you and big thing gonna get married, when you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Ma, when y'all gonna do this and that?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I wait on the Lord, and the Lord just revealed
to me that my husband been sitting around for three years, celibate,
waiting on me. Okay, he got his man right, he
got his body right. He didn't sat back, and he
didn't talk to the lady. Now he's fully prepared for me.
I'm the one out here running around doing the wrong things. Okay, O, Mari,

(34:35):
I been ready. So that just came. Sorry, no, no,
because I am I'm married. But the Lord, no.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Anna happen, She talked.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
When people hit me up with this, O, Mari, y'all
been selling I said, Marian myself for three years. I
went and watched the clip. He said I got my
mind right. I controlled my food intake, I controlled my
sexual demons.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I said, I hear.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
You, Lord, this man been waiting all this telling me
to unbig my back.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
I just sitting around waiting on me to get my
stuff together while I'm trying to prussure somebody. Now, so
I need to go with the law is telling me
to go, which is to la and get my men. So, oh,
I'm coming for you, baby, I'm already working. I stopped
drinking pop. I'm down about five pounds. I'm not playing
with y'all.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I stopped drinking pop.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Hey, it's a few things I gotta work on, but
I'm coming.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Oh, I hear you. I hear you loud and clear.
That's why this man ain't went public. Think about it
for real. This man ain't went public with nobody else
since his baby mama. He's been selling it for three years.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Who y'all think he waiting on?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Congratulations?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You drinking pops crazy online talking about chicken sandwich that baby?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Want to go order google it?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Where is that chicken salad?

Speaker 6 (36:07):
I stopped drinking.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I stopped drinking I'm serious. So you don't even think
it's a game. When I go vegan on you.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
It's up.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I can not get skinned go vegan.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
My man waiting on me is waiting on me.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I can't image.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I can't even imagine, Like celibate is like it's a
different type of time, the different type of time at
one what's.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
At one point?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I was gonna try to be a Muslim And why
that's funny.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
If it's one thing y'all gonna do. Baby, y'all gonna
go Mussler. Your can't gonna do.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
What's gonna go? Muscle?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I ain't read, not at what happened is I read
the autobiography of Malcolm X and I read I was like.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yo, and now I was like and it was just
some stuff. I was like this, I hate y'all.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
No talk about it.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
No, no, come on, Yeah, what's your what's your Muslim?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Now? I know I don't have one relation. I'm not
gonna respect the brother. No brother.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I was gonna have a lot. I was gonna start
that journey. I was gonna start that journey. My grandma
went was really upset because we got heavy, heavy Christians
in my family and they were they.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Were like, she was not feeling it at all.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
But I was like, yo, I was like, and I
was looking at the brothers that I knew there was
Muslim I remember, and I was like, I respected them.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
And that was one of the things.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
They was like, Yo, the sex thing, and that that
Muslim thing kind of came at the right time.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
At the time that I was getting I was hot
in these streets.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
What's the sex thing?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Because you gotta clear mind, you can't have sex, not
for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
What the Bible been telling you to do.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
The Bible said, don't have sexy.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I mean sometime, but I heard the Mario. I was
thinking in my head, how long could I go without?
I ain't gonna lie, I actually thought, I said, I said,
I wonder how long.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I could go. That's a long time.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
How long you think you can go?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think I think I could get I think I
can get a strong sixty days out sixty days.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I know I could do too much, Zach, what about you?

Speaker 3 (38:21):
I could go ninety days. I've done ninety days.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I don't believe a word coming out of I don't
believe you, but I damn sure don't believe him.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
You can't believe.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I don't believe him, Like, this is not actually sex.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
What we're doing this is this is yoga.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Make up another term, like I didn't technically have sex
with you, but you know yoga.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I don't trust Zach.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Please, bonding inside of you, right, exactly, bonding for a
deeper connection, for a deeper connection. Yeah, not sex unless
you ejaculate.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
We're gonna do it. Hold it.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Oh my god, No, I have I have.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I don't quantry. Contrary to your belief, I have that nineties.
I have that ninety day ninety days before.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Sometimes I just I just back off stuff. The alcohol, alcohol, alcohol,
we sex, vices. The any thing that I feel like
is vices. I'll bag off gambling. That's not advice for me,
but that's my one for some people. You did, you
know what I'm saying, Like vices, I try to stay
away from it.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
And that's real. I don't know why y'all think I'm
just out here some sex demon or.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Fanky man.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Y'all think I am.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You're trying to figure you brother, You're the friendly killer brother,
That's all I'm saying you the I ain't never seen
the nicer killer.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
In my life, smoothest criminal.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
The nicest killer.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Like what like, Bro, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
do that because you say I talked too much, so
I'm just shut up.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
But I just heard talked to him.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I snuck it in.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Nobody, they'll have to be wired and watch the podere
We're gon We're gonna move, we go, We're gonna move.
We're gonna move, all right. Uncle Luke says that mag
the stallion and along with Nicki Minaj, all of the
women right now that are twerking Ice Spice. They owe
him some money, owe him some credit because he was

(40:26):
they were not money, but owe him some credit because
he was the first person that started in a sense.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, but no, what you doing?

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I honestly, he's not my demo. What well, I'm not
even trying to be funny. That's not a it's not
a joke.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
What happened, Bro, You're the only person that was alive
when well, when.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
We weren't allied, or if we were, we were too little,
we didn't know we were babies.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, Uncle Luke, Uncle, they made a big deal. Honestly
made a huge deal, which is crazy to see what's
going on right now. They had rental advisory stickers on.
He had women in thongs you see women and women
walk around every day and work out and throng leggings
and they women in throngs and they were tworking, dancing

(41:13):
and Luke and them was rapping.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
It was black men rapping.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I always started having something to do because he had
too many white women on there. Yeah, he had little
white women always start the black dude letting the white
girls work around him. And it was something something to
it that was mad. But the government was mad at him.
It wasn't just like like you know, like groups. It
was the government mad at him. That was That was

(41:36):
the craziest thing.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
But so he made the way for the holes.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
He wasn't the down fall of society. I mean, it's
just he was one of the first people to do
the twerk and stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I think he's just.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Uncle lu So why did he just call out the
women with guys who rap about stuff like that too?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I think to say, because girls being able to twork.
He made it cool and tworking do all of that stuff,
bringing into the forefront and rap.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
It's kind of the thing.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
But Uncle Luke just wanted us to talk about him,
and that's what we're doing right now. Shout out to you,
Uncle Luke, and we appreciate all the contributions that you've
made to hip hop. Brother, that's all he wanted. Sometimes
you just got to give old man a little that's.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
All he wanted, Uncle thing Man.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
But See, the thing of it is to a broader
point is that I think that and I saw this,
I think that we don't give the respect to the
and that's why you have people like Uncle Luke speaking out.
You'll see an older rapper speak out because I think
for some reason they feel like the old dudes don't

(42:42):
have any game. And I think I saw this clip somewhere,
but they were just talking about it used to be
and I from that from that generation, like when when
the old dude that was the successful old dude, even
if he.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Didn't have a lot of bread.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Because you gotta remember, I came up in the nineties
when when drug deals so drug dealer was at a high.
So it might be a young dude on a block
that made made so much money, he was rich as hell,
but it was a it still was an older guy
that was from the hood, went to college. Everybody knew
he had a little street in him, but he went

(43:15):
to cars, came back successful. He had, but he wasn't
living in the neighborhood. The more he bought a house,
all types of stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
But he was cool.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
You listen to him talk right because he was he
had a winning mindset. You would just hear him. Now,
when older dudes speak, if they ain't got a pocket
full of money, change on. Younger cats feel like they
don't know what they talking about because the younger dudes got,
especially the younger rappers, have way more money than that.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
That's one of the worst mistakes that I think we
make as a culture is we don't protect our legends.
We don't protect them and we don't hold them to
the highest regard that they should probably be held to
because we think we come along and we knew when
we popping, But you not paying respect to the people
that paved the way. So I do understand when you
say that that's a serious problem to me and hip
hop is that we do not respect our legends or protect.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Them in the way that we should.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
When you look at the jar of like rock and roll,
they legends performing today ninety and they get all the
respect and they get all you know what I'm saying,
all of us do that they deserve, whereas we feel
like if you get a certain age, you whack you.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Oh, we put.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
You on a stage play as you like to say,
and we don't come back and see you no more
so to me, I think there is a point in
that piece, in that regard Like, for instance, I just
went to see Missy Elliott fifty three years old, one
of the best concerts I've seen all year, one of
the best concerts I've seen all year. Her name is

(44:37):
not mentioned enough in all of these conversations about top
this and top that, Like people forget who Missy Elliott
is and the way the barriers she broke down and
the people she put on Like when we don't, we
don't give our legends enough credit. Now, on the other hand,
Bust the Rhymes performed at the same concert.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Buster did a lot of talking when I.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Was you know what I'm saying, like a lot of
ran like you know, he need a bust and need
a podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But that that's from that's from frustration. I think Buster
does that out.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Of fush because it's to your point, he's not Nobody
is giving these older rappers that have succeeded.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
They flowers like, who's going to be the next bus
to ride? Well, what are you saying?

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Don't agree with y'all. I'm sorry, I don't agree with y'all.
I feel like we I hate to talk of young
people don't listen to their elders. They do, they do?
You know, Missy has gotten plenty of she's in She
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's flowers.
That's being respected.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Her. Was her concert sold out? I'm sure it was
two nights, two nights.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
That's being respected. Nobody is shitting on Missy. Missy, just
be quiet. Sometimes are the way our news cycle is,
it's the newest, it's the newest story. It's the newest story.
But as soon as Missy said she was going on
tour with cr and Bus, it was in that news story.
We do show respect to our legends.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
I don't like that idea of we don't do it.
And then to your point, Kiki the younger, like, you know,
we'll be like I'll get out of here. You're whack
or this or that. We do we do to that,
but we do that when they're whack we we actually
do that when they're whack and other and other genres.

(46:29):
Them young kids may not. They don't know nothing about
the rolling Stones or whoever else them.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yes they do.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
They over there, they over there, they over there. That
ain't right.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
No, But what I'm trying to tell you is the
people who are going to see the people are the
people who enjoyed and listen to their music. And that's
in every genre. You was in the Missy concert because
you liked Missy. My son may look at me. He's
for right now, but ten years from now, if I
try to put them on Missy, he may listen. But
guess what, you know how many Earth Wind and Fire
concerts I've been to and that I have nothing and

(47:04):
I ain't never seen to. I ain't wasn't around when
that that wasn't my genre of music. My mom and
them just cleaned up to the music, and I liked
the music been.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
The boys to me.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
And concerts who was just here, the old school concert
that was just here. To be honest, the old school
concerts of this summer outperformed the new music of people.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
The new The new artists are the ones canceling shows.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
The artists is probably when the best concerts I've been
to in the old artists are the.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Ones selling out steel book.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
So it has to be some level of respect here
for these people to stop.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Stop so stop what I'm saying right there, to kind
of combine the points. If those artists, the younger artists,
start listening to and going to watch these other artists
that are generational talents, it will help the genre go.
You don't think Michael Jackson watched things of James Brown.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
You don't think Usher studied Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
They watched and learned and maybe even had conversations even
to comedy something that you win.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
You like your generation didn't have one hit Wonders, We
hit my tel Jordan study.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I came up into the golden era of R and B.
There's nothing better than that. You can't argue with it.
The golden era R and B.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I My generation started hip hop, n W A.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Gates, the rap All of these rappers came and they
who is going to be the next Ice Cube Bro?
Who is going to be the next Will Smith Bro?
They don't respect them. That's the fact, you know, he's
going to be the next who is going to be?
Listen who is going to be the next lawn. Hell,
it's not about lawns. It's the fact that hey, I

(48:46):
got all this bread because they make it way more
money than anybody, making way more money than anybody, and
they're like, man, you ain't make the kind of money
I'm listening. I'm making why I'm listening to you because
I had been around long. If somebody doesn't pick Chris
Brown's brand, Usher's brand is crazy. It's like, look at this.

(49:07):
It's like the fact that Anthony Edwards just said. Anthony
Edwards said in the nineties they did not have any skill.
That is the dumbiest I've ever heard to say. The
Magic Johnson like, your little ass will be able to
stop a six nine to two hundred plus man because
he ain't doing the moves and stuff that you do.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Back then. It was the moves.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
If you telling me that Magic wouldn't be able to
do those moves, wouldn't be able to learn the moves
that they Anthony, you crazy that all athletes are athletes.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That's it. That is it. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
You got young boys saying they're looking at the nineties
basketball players and looking at them like they're crazy. You're
looking at You can't look at them like that because
success is success no matter what, and you'll see long
term who is around. There's a reason why. It's a
reason why, it's a reason why USh shirt.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
That's everybody I saw. Those are all my generations. I'm
just here's what I'm trying. What I'm trying to say
is y'all the difference is we have an Internet led generation. Okay,
your generation knocked it down for others to come through
with the Internet led generation. Hold on, there is no gatekeepers.

(50:28):
So what there was there was a different level. There
was a different process that that you had to go
through before you could become a star, Before you could
even be seen on TV. You knew how to interview,
you knew how to talk to people. They had three
fold records ready for you before they even.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Put you out.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
We're at a time now where a kid can come
from a YouTube's platform and become a superstar by tomorrow. Okay,
so it's not fair to take that person and then
compare him to a person who's been a star sins
a child like Michael Jackson. It's not even it's not
even close. They're not even clear what I'm saying, but

(51:07):
what the more responsibility falls on them. But what I'm
trying to say, So, what I'm trying to say is
it is it the general Quit blaming the generation and
blame somebody groomed. And I hate to use that word
because it's just a crazy word. Now, somebody, what I'm
trying to say is somebody talk the generation that you're
talking about how to be stars. Okay, And so many

(51:30):
times with the older generation, y'all blame the kids for
not being in the.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Situation like they should already have the knowledge.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
No, it's up to the people who are putting them
out to show them the way.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
It's no way you can't.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
The thing, you know what you did when you didn't
listen back then, Your ass wasn't out, your song wasn't
out exactly.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
So the issue is y'all rather.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Have the money and be like, forget it, We're just
gonna ride with it because this generating money. You can't
blame a nineteen year old kid from TikTok that he
don't know or have no respect.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
You teach the person who's putting them out.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Teach them.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
But and if you don't care, that's.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
So quick but if you teach your bowl, if you're
not teachable, I have money.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Let me tell you this.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
If I have more money than you, sometimes it's hard
for me to accept whatever you're trying to teach me
because I have more money than you, I have more
followers than you. I'm more popping to the to the
TikTok world whoever than you are. So if you're an
icon or a legend trying to tell me something and
I got more money than you, a lot of times
these artists, what can I what can you tell me?
That's why and that's why a lot of them shut up.

(52:35):
And when I'm talking about artists being not not our legends,
not being protected, I stamp by that. I don't feel
like they are protected by a new generation. And you
just broke it down as far as the Tiktoks and
the start, they come out and they blow up and
have instant success, and they haven't done no damn homework
about it.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
They have no respect for.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Our legends, So that that that becomes just something that
could that it could possibly become a problem. I think
I saw a hebro was talking about it at some point.
He was talking about the lack of the gatekeepers. People
talk about, hey, no gatekeepers, but the gatekeepers kept kept everything.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Cool and they picked the talent. And it is a
it's a give and take.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah, I love the fact that it's wild wild West
because you don't have to go searching for a gatekeeper
to put you on.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
But also in a sense of.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
It is it's allowing, just a free for all, and
that's why all the music, Like Tyler the creator had said,
all of the music sounds like everybody. If you listen
to a lot, it's it's a couple of Bryce and Tillers.
It's a couple. It's a couple young thugs. It's a
couple of people sounded like future, it's a couple. I mean, goddamn,
it's a dude. We did the concert. No shade to him. Hancho,

(53:42):
My god, we we've been calling Quevo Honcho for years
and all of a sudden you just took his name. Honestly,
when the Hancho dude came out, I thought, oh, Quavo
just going boy off to Ego.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
This's gonna be you think, But it's a whole nother dude.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
But I'm just saying, I like we we act like
the generation. I just don't like the idea that the
younger generation isn't like, it's just disrespectful. I think the
younger generation, especially the ones who got some sense making
some moves. I'm not talking about ignorant people, but the
people who making some moves saw the pitfalls of the.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
One before them.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
All them people, you know how many of them artists,
they saw that was broke, you know what I'm saying.
So it was like it's they saw brokeness happened time
at the time, every every documentary you see on these artists.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
They didn't have no money, but they had million.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
Dollar records, serres. They was touring all over the country
and broke. So yeah, this TikToker who making his money
looking at you like.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
You was broke.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
You might have some knowledge for me, but I can't
listen to you because when you was twenty years like
you ain't had no paper.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I got money.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
So no, I'm not listening to you because obviously you
don't make good decisions, but he didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I mean those his bad decisions helped your good decisions
exactly that his badness.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Because like I can tell you back then, I could
tell you like this You sure a dude, the me
and dollar if it there's a Prince clip, the Prince
clip of saying with you know, Mariah Carey getting twenty
million dollars an hour and Prince broke it down in
a way of a sensile shoe kind of had a
bad deal.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
But let's go ahead. We gotta wrap up because we
had tied.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Go ahead, ke kee, come on fin of thoughts fan.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Thoughts, shout out to the pot fam. Love y'all.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
We see y'all popping up in supporting TSR Live too.
Love that for us, So let's keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And uh that's it.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Yep Ezac book, Stay Black, Man and don't Die.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Love it hey man again, echoing both the thoughts Stay black,
don't die and also keep keep keep supporting TSR Live.
And like that being said or that being said, what
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