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All right, y'all, welcome toit. What can I say? Podcast?
Episode? What number on one?Twenty four? Whoa episode? What's
twenty four? Look at the boy? I fun of your pie hole?
Soga pol. Let's go ahead getto the other introductions. She is the
first aid and pot, the onlylady of the pots. He fluffy and
find Her name is kicking friends.What's up? What's going on? H
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How are you? I'm good,I'm happy, I'm blast, I'm feeling
good. See you see Now,let's go ahead and get to it.
The funny man Pope, my littlebrother who always uh dust weird stuff with
his head. Yesterday I watched himtook his whole hair down in the studio.
Bro, you can't that weird.I don't know you. I don't
think the studio is the ploy.He's supposed to take a hair down.
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I had to have an appointment atthree. It was one thirty. Here
needed to be down. I tookit down. I was jealous. I
was jealous. He speaking, I'msorry. You probably was doing a lot.
You probably was like rubbing your headthrough y'all fingers, the tangling,
just like he's just looking like justyou know, when you take your head
down in front of the ball man. I can see that. Yeah,
I can see consider right there,considerate. That's Zach book everybody. I'm
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sorry, all right, let's goit jumped to it, Kiki. Zach
said something in the pre meeting aboutyou being on the boat. Yes,
I don't know what we have todiscuss this, Kicky don't need to talk
um she literally, So Hugh shoutout to our good friend, friend of
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the show. Um, kendrid Ga. You know what I'm saying. Um,
she's moved on um to to LosAngeles. She's transition moving to LA
following her dreams. You know whatI'm saying. So Hugh shout out to
her. She had a going awayUM event, right right, let's go
anyway event. She says, Hey, y'all want to get on the boat
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at the event. So we're like, yeah, let's go ahead and get
on the boat. As I know, I know, Kiki, okay,
Key Key does not want to geton the boat. You got to know
Kiki. She is all about showingup, stirring up the pot and leaving
kick. You know that. That'sall she She shows up, stirs up
the pot, dips. She likesto get people going, and then she
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disappears. You know anything about Kiki, you know that's how she acts.
This particular time, I said,I'm gonna get her today. I am
not gonna let Keki out of mysight, and I am gonna make sure
that when she starts stirring up,I'm gonna follow up with her, stir
up questions and make her and makeher come. I was gonna make her
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follow up through because I know her. So she did. She starts her
stuff. So y'all, y'all gettingon the vote, and I know ki
Ki. I know her, soI know what that means. I ain't
getting on the boat. I'm justgonna get y'all talking about the boat so
I can slide out. I said, yeah, ki Ki, you getting
on pressure. You gotta get onhe key. I'm locked in because I
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know if I take off, ifI take my eyes off, k she
going somewhere else. Absolutely not.No, ke We good just so hapving
to God. The gods were onmy side, the boat gods were on
my side. When we get outthe restaurant, guess whose car is valet
right in front of the restaurant mine? Oh God, she has no where
to go. So I say,hey, she's waiting on her her valet
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car was up up a little bit. And then our boss, uh Johnny
Deeve, he was there too aswell. So I was like, look,
let's go get on the boat.Let's get on the boat. Come
on, y'all can ride with me. So I hit him with you you
can ride with me? Mind you, Kiki only has two steps to make.
That's why I'm so happy my carwas right there, because if I
had to walk to it. She'slike, I need you. That's to
say that. I'll take you rightback here. Come on, so Keiki,
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get you in the car. Bowe're going on the anxiety. I
had so much anxiety. I getin exact car. It's leather season.
You could still smell the new carsfrom hew his seat. Get the moving
automatically because it feels like it's abig person in the car. It's not
used to that. I feel hisshock's readjusting. Then it's like a little
face can in the front, likewelcome to the Zach Books. I'm like,
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this is too rich for me.Getting me out of him my anxiety
it's already I'm like, oh mygod, cars don't Yeah, just latch
y'all, fight you you know what. I'm saying this to make sure you
say, yeah, that's a that'sthank you. Yes. So we get
in the car. So the funnypart is we get ready to get on
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the boat. We see the boatand it's smaller everybody was expecting. And
get on the boat. We thinkit. We get on Yeah, yeah,
I thought we spenna get one ofthem cruises that we be on for.
I heart the boats. Yeah boats, this was a boat boat this
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this boat wasn't that big. Isaid, it's about eight of us.
Can we all fit? That's whatI'm thinking. But we're out here now.
So Kiki gets on the boat,y'all. I was so scared.
I was so like, you know, you had inner monologue with God,
like as we walk in, andI thought she was joking when she got
to the boat because Kendred was evenlaughing at the boat. So I was
like, oh, this must notbe the boat. So I'm cracking jokes
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on the boat. We all talkedabout the boat and then the guy coming
he like, ye'a already We're likeyeah. He like okay, we're getting
on the boat, and we alllooking at each other like, oh,
this the boat boat. So thenI immediately started talking to God, like,
see, I let zach Pier pressureme when I when you clearly told
me to go home. Lord,I heard you tell me to go home,
and you I let Zach Pier pressureme. Now I'm FeTNA get on
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this boat and die. Kendre finnago. Then let she feel a sacrifice
all us. So she got alittle Natti papers. That's what I'm thinking,
right, I'm having a whole conversationwith the Lord. Like you know,
I already noticed set up. I'dhave seen this happen before. Kendred
is sacrificing us, and we don'thave to follow her. Yeah, somebody,
Yeah, we get on the boat. I've never seen any body find
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one seat faster than Kiki. Shegets on this seat next on the side
of the boat. Y'all. WhenI tell you, she wouldn't even turn
around. She looked forward, andshe was quiet the entire rod. She's
just sitting there tight. I'm breathing, I'm over there, I'm good job.
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And then she comes right back toher position, and I realized,
Kiki is scared as hell, scaredfor my life. I'm not getting on
little boats. I was scared.I don't get it. I don't get
I'm gonna keep it a buck.No little boats at nighttime, really nearly
no boats at night, but definitelynot a little boat at nighttime. I
was pinched black out there. We'rein Lake Michigan. Ain't no police.
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I'm like, where's the light songs, ain't no police out here. I
just met this man, so I'mthinking he wasn't gonna sacrifice us. It
was just so much going on inmy mind that I was disturbed, so
I couldn't move. I just satto the host. Time I left,
I was like, really, butI really wish I kept thinking this on
the ball. I was like,I really wish TONE walked up and saw
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this boat, because you wouldn't.You wouldn't. I would have walked back
to the car. I wouldn't,definitely, because he wouldn't let nobody get
him picture of him getting on thatboat like that because the line of the
boat was dope, so shout outto home. Because he knew how to
drive it. It was a goodtime. I get back on it now,
would now, but no, heknows what he's doing. Yeah,
the person got the boat is aboating guy. He is a hundred boating
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gas. And I felt a littlesafe because I had heard that he was
a boating guy. Yes, beforethis whole situation. Now he like happened.
He liked that. That's the thing. He probably had one of his
bigger boats out. He got somethingelse. He's got some more boats,
So that's the thing. It wasprobably a smaller boat. I wouldn't have
got on a small boat just becauseI don't get on small boats, because
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boats already had me a little,yeah, a little wit. But I
will say, as far as thatperson is concerned, he's a boating guy.
Yes. So we got on theboat and we had fun on the
boat. We did. I couldhave liked jacket on. I had one
person with you. I just wantto go all right, I how to
push that person in? I'd havesaved him, but how to push them
in? Wash him? Watch thetraid water all he's beatty. I actually
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put on life jacket immediately. Yeahyou should he did. All right,
let's go ahead get to this story, man. Uh yeah, before I
get patty. Let's go ahead andget to this. Um. Kyle,
I think his name is Kyle Rudolphin. I'm gonna get his exact name.
Let me pull it up real quick, um outside of while I'm looking at
this Apple and veils that new mixedreality headset for thirty five hundred dollars man
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as man. No, I'm notgonna spend thirty five hundred dollars. What
I spend what I spend half ofthat? But I spend half of that.
Yes, that head set even whatdid it do? The Apple hand
set? You just gotta look atthe video, y'all. You gotta watch
the video. I'm not going out. You have a seen what's this?
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What's it? Minority Report writer?I know your sci fi guy that is
Minority Report, Tom Cruise, MinorityReport, and he's like grabbing screens and
moving them and doing something like avirtual reality type of like. And the
cool really, one of the coolerfeatures is because all of the virtue which
they're getting ready to all change now, I'm sure they are. The cooler
thing about the Apple thing the AppleVR hair set is that you can see
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the person's eyes, so you knowhow they use it. It is blocked
off, so it really looks likea big block, big sunglasses over you,
right, And now what you cansee is that the crazy thing is
is it four K and each eyeso you're seeing in four K so you
can watch movies literally sitting there andit's like the whole room is the TV,
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the whole TV. And they gotlike so it's like so like an
iPhone screen. Let's say you pullup your iPad or whatever. You you
touching your apps and going through yourapps and you just about all with your
hands and what they do your brain, Oh my god, this is crazy
scanning your brain to produce the nexttime capole just so you know. Then
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you can FaceTime people, FaceTime peoplein VR, like it's a VR FaceTime,
so you see it's you just gottasee it. But they what they
said, it's not coming out tothe beginning of the next year. The
reason they did it this early notto be promoted or anything, but I'm
kind of geeked about it. It'sbecause they want to give the app designers
enough time to catch up, tocatch up and create stuff. So once
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it drops, they're gonna drop withthe whole thing apps so you can have
have a sup But I mean,if you watch the video, it looks
dope. If I had thirty fivehundred dollars. I would, but I
don't have thirty five hundred dollars toblow and entertainment. But half of that
if it had been like twelve hundred, I would have win. Oh you
want them to scan your brain?Somebody gonna be doing Capon's conversation before you
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even do it because they thought theyscared your brain and saw what you was
thinking. That's what I'm saying.That's not what they're doing. Thtter be
able to see with robot key keybecause I didn't clone myself wearing a damn
Apple heads that I would actually liketo bout this product, however, because
y'all stop stealing nine ninety nine outof my account every day. Because if
y'all will stop stealing from me,then maybe I can afford three thousand dollars
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heads talking about your Apple music.I get it. I swear. I
get a charge nine ninety nine fromApple every three days. I don't know
what I'm being charged for, andthen I don't know the Apple to settings.
Look at y'all. Don't y'all don'tget you to your app store and
go to settings. Y'all don't getI don't pay for porn. It's too
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much free what you're not a minute? Maybe you ain't got just get on
Twitter hashtag it's all right there.Who pays for four? Watching you for
some reason? Watching your poor onTwitter is lil that I don't even know
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Twitter, didn't you didn't know noTwitter? You know? Quick? I
gotta burn on Twitter just in caseI don't. I don't want to to
rub off. I don't want totest one. I don't want to look
all right, look, let's goahead, get to this. Uh,
this is one of those stories thatthey kind of hit home for me a
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little bit. Uh. Travis Rudolph, he's an x NFL player. He's
arrested because he shot somebody. Now, this whole case is where his girlfriend
they got into it next to youknow, she sends her brother over to
his house to him shooting stuff up. He gets into it, chasing the
people off the property, and thenshoots one of the people. Crazy.
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Uh, he's still jammed up.He still jammed up in this situation.
But it's just one of those thingswhere you have you have you dating somebody
and she's sending somebody over to yourhouse. You ever seen like a situation
like this break bad like this?All the time. All the time.
Growing up in the hood a littlebit um. You would see people get
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jumped on because they sister called them, and then you know, it turns
into some big mess and they don'thave to be that. Like I'm a
girl that grew up in the housewith all brothers. I don't call if
I call my brothers, no,if I call them, it's time.
You know what I'm saying, it'sgold time. There's no going back,
there's no fixing, it ain't nomaking up. It's a rapp And they're
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the same way with me because theyknow if they call me, I'm killing
everybody. It's not even like youknow what I'm saying, Like I'm not
asking no questions, I'm not thinkingtwice, like everybody's dead. And then
I go sitting jail smoke cigarettes.I'm cool with that. It's like for
real, and I feel like morepeople should have this mental. I have
friends that have played they play thesegames. Girl, I'm done with him,
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Girl, it's over with he didthis to me. He did it.
And then I fall out with theguy because I'm listening to her story
on Tuesday, and then on Thursdayshe back with the man. And now
I'm you know what I'm saying.So I don't even do that with my
friends. When you like y'all man, I like were cool. When you
don't like him, I won't.I ain't any business. I don't listen
to you. But I'm not doingnothing on behalf of y'all relationship that's between
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y'all, because I'm telling you.And when it's when you're in a family
like that, you have to that'sa button you push it. There's no
turning back from. But and peoplehave to realize that, even with your
parents and stuff. If me andBig Tim have a FI, I'm not
calling my sister to tell her whathappened, because she's never gonna look at
him the same. I'm gonna forgivehim. In two hours when he got
back in sababys, we're gonna beback cool. He not gat rolls together.
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You know what I'm saying. Watchingthe pot, are we gonna be
chilling? And now I didn't sentthe block up because we had an argument,
right and now this man had losthis life. You know, the
football player has lost his he's injail fighting for his life. The guy
who got shot is dead, allbecause you was mad and in the moment
that's stupid. And also I believethat if you if you're a part of
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calling somebody over to do something dangerousto somebody and somebody gets killed, then
you should have some some blame inthat murder, you know what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that first degree murder, but it should be four for
fear for something, because they wouldnot be They are there because of you.
And then you do one and said, hey, shoot this thing up.
It one't like you was like,hey, come talk to him,
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or even if you said beat himup. If you tell somebody to shoot
something up like you said, andyou send that up to your brother something,
they're gonna come shoot it up.That's that's what they own, you
know. So when dude defends himselfand somebody ends up down, you are
a part of that, and youdon't. I don't feel like she should
be able to go home Scotch free, sleep in her bed at night while
that man is dead and while thatmy boyfriend has to face these up to.
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Yeah, I think it's a lotthat goes with this, right because
you you got all this, likeyou said, you never touched that button.
You never pushed that button because itcould go all type of ways.
You just don't do that. Andyou look at it, and I'm thinking
from the guys point of view,right, and then somebody he knows her
brother obviously maybe or not. Theycome over. You don't know what they
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were saying to him. She senthim over there, will go shoot it
up. And now he's he probablythe probably is over there talking real crazy.
It's three dudes. He's like,yo, y'all offended, and you're
my property. I understand to protectyour home situation. You come to my
house. I'm telling you it's notgoing to It's not gonna work out right
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for you. It's not gonna workout. That's that he threatened me in
my house is a whole nother Itbuilds up energy. I think where he
took and he got itself involved inthe situation where he took it too far,
where he chased him, that's wherehe get the jam. That's the
jam. You chase him. Now, if you chase them away, fine
for shooting. And that's that's wherethat's where it gets a little trick.
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If I'm on the jury, heinnocent, you know why, because your
honor I had to shoot him orshoot in that direction to let them know
that I mean business and I wasprotecting and I'm here to my house,
I'm protecting my community. So Iwanted to make sure that nobody in the
zip code was in danger. SoI really did the service. I really
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was on behalf of the neighborhood.That's what I was doing. Yeah,
that's what I say, y'all.I mean I wouldn't let him, no,
no't ever come back. Yeah,because you can't when you're adrenaline is
rushing. Somebody has invaded your homeand violated you in that way. I
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who am I to say? Youknow why I went down the street to
shoot him. I had to dothat. I had to. Ye,
don't. But also, fellas,don't ignore the data, and for the
ladies too. But I'm gonna speaking. This is a bad woman's situation.
For the man's perspective, don't ignorethe data, doll. If she is
crazy, she sends it up everytime y'all get into it. You're like,
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man, she turned up and thiswas just like this one another.
This is little she turned up.This is crazy. If somebody turns up
on you like that, man,get the hell out even and I'm gonna
keeping a buck even if you getcalled cheating. Even if you get called
cheating, I'm gonna keep it abuck. If you think if you get
called cheating, No, seriously,think about how ascidine this is. You
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get called cheating, and then you'regonna go. You're gonna go want to
cause violence towards you. There's peoplethat do that, like, yo,
go beat him up because he cheatedon me. That's some different type.
But that's a different type of energy. I get moving out, I get
making his life a little hectic,but trying to get into that. And
I've been in situations where I hadhad updated women that had wild ass tempers,
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wild astivities. You be like,yo, this is a lot for
this, This is a lot,and you got you got. You can't
even know the data because you endup jamming yourself out up and be jammed
up for real, like Buddy isbecause I think he gonnad up. Have
him do some years because he don'tgot h key, he has his lord.
I'm sutting man, call me bro. I'm for a small fee,
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I will get you off Foggy adiscount group, Fine Cooke. Now Gunna
needs Gunna needs kikiS pr Company orsomebody, because man, everybody, Batman,
Cabo's calling him a rat. He'smaking a song. Little Boosey's saying,
hey, I would never do asong with Gonna. Zach. What
you think, buddy, Gunna pleaseGunna please, bread and butter, Bread
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and butter. I listened to thesong, Gunna. It's good. Okay,
it is Gunna rap. I neversaid it was bad. But guess
what my advice to you, Gunna, if you listen to this podcast,
you cannot make music until Young Thugis out of jail. Nobody cares what
you got to say until Young Thugis out. You can't rap while Thug
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is in there. You just can't. It will not be received well no
matter what you say. He saidthe da end did they trick on him?
You know he tried to tell it. And listen, nobody cares.
You cannot make a rap rap songand people don't care about until the Thug
gets out and say something. Hehas to wait. It's too soon.
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It's an interview to the Breakfast Club, Sell the interview to to the Joe
Budden Podcast, Sell an interview,bro sit down with I don't know who
Stephen A. Smith. I don'tknow who Shannon Sharp go to club Sha
say something. You gotta talk,bro. He has to. You can't
rap with it because if he can'trap, because the rap ain't gonna go
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until Young Thu clear Young Thug hasto clear him his name out there as
a rapper again. He has to. He's not gonna two thugs said come
down and says Gunna is a rator Gunna is not a rat. He
limball, So you might as wellmake the money if you know you rat
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it on him. You know,you know thugs gonna come back and say
some crazy stuff. I gotta runit up before he gets out. That's
why I'm putting out of music.Yeah all right, I mean you can
get ass. No from the beginningof this whole thing. If I was
gonna, I was telling from dayone. Okay, So y'all need to
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give him some credit for how longhe said in there. Okay, that's
the first things. First. Secondthing, the way that it is shaping
out, it don't seem like you'llthud coming home. It just don't seem
that way. It's not giving hegetting out of jail. They keep the
court room is keep getting people keeptrying to sneak drugs in the corp room.
They dropping the weed on the flow, the peels in the lap,
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Like what are y'all doing? Soit don't seem like the man getting out
of jail, right, This isnot like y'all acting like this an episode
of power. These our people's reallives, real lives. And if I'm
gonna, I sat in there aslong as I could. I'm really not
guilty of anything. So am isupposed to throw my entire life away because
I'm loyal to a man. Whenhe said on the he was rapping and
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all his money was going to thugany damn way, he like, I
was out here in the streets asyohole anyway, So now I'm supposed to
rap and pay you. You getall the money from that. He said
it in the song that I onlyunderstood two lines of the song anyway,
because the whole song he mumbling,that's another thing gonna. If you're gonna
put the record out, maybe Ishould help you produce it because I couldn't
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understand what you said. But onceI dissected the first paragraph, he did
say something about gunna. You knowI've been out here running the streets for
thug. Whatever my thing is.You guys, this is real life,
and it's easy to say what youwouldn't have done when you're not in the
situation. And I don't know abouty'all, but I'm not throwing my life
away for somebody for a crime Idid not commit. Now, I'm gonna
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give you a time period to figureout how you want this to play out.
If me and Tarber, if Tarlrobber bank and I accidentally just picked
him up and he got in myuber and we both went to jail because
he robbed a bank, I'm gonnasit down in jail with you, and
I'm like, so, how yougoing to what we're doing? And if
you ain't came without playing in twoyears, I'm sorry. I didn't rob
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the bank. But the thing ofit is, though kid key not to
cut y'alls. The thing of itis is that Gunner's entire existence, entire
musical existence, it's all based offof the co sign of young Thug.
So I don't know. That's onething I hate to hear people crying about
the music I didn't get. I'mnot making no money. Sorry, that's
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just the way the music business iswhen you signed it because Gunners, nobody
was checking IM saying Gunnar is nottalented. But it's a lot of talented
dudes out here, a lot oftalented women out here. If they get
to touch from Young Thug, theyget to touch from dirt, they get
to touch from from quality control,they up and they're gone. And that's
the thing. So him happened topay Young Thug, I don't want to
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he cry about that, and thennow hey rapping like me and Zach Bo
said he can't do nothing until Thugis out. Now Thug game out.
You gotta go work at Ober Eats, open a restaurant. I don't know
what you need to do. I'mall that interview that's gonna further dig his
hole. That's gonna further hurt YoungThug because he's gonna sell an interview to
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Kiki, and Kiki's gonna ask didyou do it? So the young Thug
did it? He gonna end uptelling more stuff so he don't need to
sit down and talk to nobody's interview. He could put it in the music
and if he if like you said, his musical career is old, too
young thug. So then guess whatthe more, if I would continue to
be successful, I will make sureyou are never broke in jail. I'm
gonna make sure your family straight,I'm gonna I'm gonna take care of everybody
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on your pay road for you.I'm gonna work hard as I can to
do whatever I can because you cosat in my musical career. But am
I gonna throw my whole damn lifeaway because you got caught up for something
that you did allegedly? Absolutely not. That's crazy. Well let's just say
this. If you're allegedly doing thesethings, here's the thing that I hate
about the streets, you know whatI'm saying. And people like Gunna Okay,
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a lot of these rappers they benefitoff the street image, They benefit
off of all of that stuff whileeverybody's free. And then when when it
goes down and it becomes real,you want to distance yourself and say it
wasn't me. No, you wasn'tsaying it wasn't you. When you was
riding with them. You weren't sayingit wasn't you. When you was rapping
about how you never snitch on people, you wasn't saying it wasn't you when
you was when it was in thevideos with you, when you were splatting
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all that slime, and it wasn'tit wasn't you. It was you then
when it's cool, But then whenthe pressure gets home. Now you the
first one to take the plea deal. First of all, you should never
be the first one out of it. And you know that you're the one
that people are gonna look at.Sometimes you gotta have pride, man,
and sometimes your pride and ego gottabe bigger because you know, you know
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Zack. That's the thing. ThoughI'm not gonna say what what I would
I can't say what I would do, but guess what the Zach's not gonna
do in the first place. Zackain't riding with them with ain't hanging out
with them because I know what theybe because Zach know if something goes down,
Zack ain't ain't. I can't tellyou three in and one hour out
it's nuts. But what I'm sayingis I wouldn't. I'm not living that
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life at all that I'm not gonnaplay that for three weeks in a turn
they whole situation. I'm not sayingit won't but in that little ass room
for twenty three hours a day.But I'm not playing gangster while we free
either, That's my point. Butdon't let you know who you are.
That's true, and and I'm onlyspeaking let me be clear. You know
how many know that was my friendsthat have been in these situations that I
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did not hang with when we wasall free because I said y'all was crazy.
And I'm only speaking up for Gunna. If he honestly did not do
it, if he had something todo with it, like you're saying,
kind of like if he really wasin that with Thugger, absolutely you do
not tell. If me and Tomrobbed the bank together, I'm never telling,
never telling. But if he gotin my ouba with the money and
I ain't had nothing to do withit, Bro, you got to figure
this out, because I'm you gotabout thirty days five. What if you
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okay, if you got hot.Let's take your example. Let's say Tone
robbed the bank, but then hetold you he robbed the bank, and
he was like, we're gonna splitthis money together, and if y'all go
ball out, if y'all go ballout together, even though he robbed the
bank, and then you y'all getlocked up. You're still snitching. That's
not I give him sixty days.He spent the money with me sixty.
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All we know is this is thoughGunner's life will never be the same.
And for the rappers, hey,bro, again, I keep saying this
all the time. Once you getfamous, all of the gangs and stuff
has to stop. Yeah, thenpeople own you, bro. It's not
even it's not even a secret anymore. It used to be like a seker,
like, Hey, I wonder ifthe fans really listening to the music.
I wonder if somebody is really payingattention to what we're saying. Gee,
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they checking for you all day long, a moment and just think about
it. And again, it's alwaysgoes back to this, goes back to
anything. Bro. My grandma willtell that that wonderful woman passed way.
My great grandma said, when youstart forgetting that you black, you will
always get reminded that you black.If you're a young black man out here
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making thousands and thousands and millions andmillions of dollars, believe me, somebody
gonna check and seat is he doingit llegal? Because the perception is anytime
we're driving good, we're living good, we're doing something good. We didn't
done something bad to come up onit and not saying that we not say.
In some cases that might not betrue, but it ain't just all
black people to do that. Butwhen we get successful, you best believe
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they're running the checks and balances onus. For sure. For sure.
All right, let's go ahead andget to this. Um did he his
baby mama? Another situation that Idon't know if I'm agreeing with? Uh,
did he son got caught up witha dui? And now? Did
he son is what twenty southn yearsold? His mom he's graduated from UCLA,
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so he gotta college. He gottabe twenty five. Let's just say
it's justin right, sit calms nowsaying that his dad is setting a bag
twenty nine, he's selling, youknow, selling alcohol. He's doing this,
he's doing that. Basically just said, did he setting the badgxap before
him? I? I hate thisin a major way. I want to
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hear what you gutta say, Zach, what you gotta say, buddy,
oh about about what he did?Or about what's about the mom airing out
and being on social media? Kindof being messy with the situation. It's
another situation similar to the gunning thing. People love to celebrate you when it's
beneficial, okay, but when thingsget hot now they want to poke out
your bad things. Okay, she'stalking about, oh you selling, why
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are you selling alcohol and all thatstuff. Well, when I'm sending you
these chap when I was sending youthese child support checks, that was off
the rot. It wasn't no issuewith the lifestyle that you get to live
because of my money. There's noissue. But then when a problem comes,
now I'm a bad example. Nowit's all this. Now it's the
all bad. We get sick andtime tired of that. Men get tired
of that. Y'all come in ourlives, reap the benefits of the stuff
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that you know is within our lives, and then when stuff turns around or
you embarrassed or something, and thenyou try to throw it all in our
face like you just wasn't benefiting fromit. Knock it off, Knock it
off, Come on, Zach,come on, man. I don't know
if I could have said it better. I'm triggered by it. I was
triggered. I was like as manyso rock checks if you have cashed what
ma'am that is, do not startthat. So, Kiki, how are
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you feeling about this? Because sinceit's a little bit out there t bogus,
I just want to say, wemust protect Misha Hilton at all times.
And that's all really I gotta sayabout it, because you know,
I'm a conspiracy theories. I watcha lot of TikTok. I just I
just want her to be protected becauseyou she what she did was very explosive
because not many people call out Diddy, and when they do, weird things
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happening. So let's protect her.Secondly, protect you. Now, y'all
don't know. Yah, I lovey'all know. I love Diddy. I'm
a big fan, and I justwatch a lot of tiktoking what they'd be
saying down to the TikTok d that'swhere that's where it's at. But we'll
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look at me on TV. Umwhat I just got distracted. It's a
pretty big girl, don't don't Thatis what this TV has been distracted me
this whole time because first, firsttone, this man that looked like Tom
was on Good Morning America, andthat's this big girl on the Tamaris show.
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And it's just a lot anyway,Um why term had show older than
our podcast because she's a queen andshe's in daytime with her beautiful self.
You have to find a way toedit that, write it out your look
at me. But that's what God, God giving me sounds. He I'm
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telling you, I just spoke thatgood one. Watch it happened and that
he said. Okay, anyway,wait all waiting on you next. Anyway,
Nicia Hilton, I just would likeher to be protected because, honestly,
guys, as a mother, aswhen you have a baby mother of
a very powerful rich man, Idon't know what that's like. I would
like to know one day, however, I can't even be serious. However,
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however, you guys, you gottaknow when you're rich and powerful,
us shors the ditties. They havetheir children full custody most times, and
as a mother, you gotta resentthat a little bit. I can never
give you the lifestyle that your dadis giving you. I can never give
you the experiences that your dad isgiving you. So as a child,
you sometimes will favor the parent whois the fun parent, who got all
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the money, who got all thepower and the cloud and fame. So
I'm sure what she was speaking.It was from a place of hurt over
a lot of years. And onething I respect about Misha, and she's
been very quiet his entire life.We haven't heard much from her ever.
She's a stylist, very established stylist. She's Mary Jay Blige's best friend and
stylist, and y'all if she hadMary been looking since she came out.
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Misha is behind all of that,her entire image. So let's not act
like she's just some baby mama.She's a very she's a queen, and
so I respect that she's been quietall these years, but I do know
everybody has a breaking point, andprobably seeing her son get in that type
of trouble and knowing the lifestyle thathe's living with his father, partying with
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his father, they share women,all kind of stuff allegedly that happens,
it probably pissed her off. Andshe was speaking from a place of her
So I don't think she's a babymama. You were describing about you coming
my lifestyle, you had benefit.She didn't worked her ass off for her
own career. But she's been quietmost of their lives. J Blige first,
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hold on because they hold on nowbecause Misha is the one behind Diddy
style his whole stat from David.But I'm saying behind did he style?
Then? Did he say Hey Mary, my girl is tough? Yeah?
And did he marry what? Nobody? They all and slide and slide a
right over there to that. I'mso happy that Mia can put clothes together
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images, not just put clothes women. Did he put records together? She
put images. We're not gonna,I'm not gonna demean that system, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you thatthe end of the day from a from
a person that's got an older akid, Yes, I don't have that.
Yes, your kids are gonna makemistakes. Sometimes they're gonna be big
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boy mistakes. Then you just kindof be like and it's your job to
come in and fix it. Issome blame going in there. You know.
I've had those situations. I've hadthat kind of conversation. But I
think to bring it to the publicforum is a bit much because we all
know, at least in the blackhousehold, we say everything happened up,
and here happens up and here itain't for everybody else, because then you
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have people commenting and and to Zach'spoint and a little bit to your point,
like did he you can't? Didhe's alcohol? Money is yeah?
Alcohol, You're gonna blame the nextperson. You're gonna blame a person that
makes this champagne or this. Stopblaming people. Sometimes people make mistakes and
did he what he's doing? It'sreally it's legendary, and as far as
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it concerns for a black man,you watch a black dude that really came
from nothing to be who he isnow, it's wild. And his kids
especially, And this is where Ithink we get a little bit of twisted
up with black moms that have blacksons, Like Mama, you could raise
him, You could raise him allthe way up until he gets to be
about fourteen fifteen. You gotta lethis daddy step in. If his dad's
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of the statue of a diddy,And of course they've probably done some wild
stuff. But guarantee, you guaranteeyou if he made from anything did he
got going on in his DNA?He gonna be wild? So why not
how a person that's lived the lifeguide him through it? And it's made
mistakes and here's my issue with whatkick. Let me just talk about because
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I have to always take it rightback to the context. How you go
this is what she said, Howyou go from the greatest to ever do
it to making all your money offalcohol and suing the damn alcohol company.
Sell something healthy that builds people up. I'm sick of it, not mind.
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Yes, now you stop that.Stop it right there. That's literally
probably the one of the most uneducatedthings to say ever. It's hurt,
so the usually you say your mostuneducated stuff when you hurt. To go
from being the best to ever doit musically and then to say, you
know what, because unfortunately music isit's gonna up and down. You're gonna
be hot that you not. Hesaw it, He saw it leaving and
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jumped into a lane that most peoplehad started and show everybody do it,
yes and partner and then he's suing. Yes, now he's suing because he
feels like, yo, I'm notgetting the right money and he must be
something right because you know who he'sfriends with. He's friends with jay Z,
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and jay Z just got out ofhis deal the same way he said.
He's like, hey man, youneed to have you need to check
what's going on and did he probablydid some checks and balances, like yeah,
wait a minute, y'all getting metoo? Yeah, no, I
yeah, I'm not gonna defend hercomments, like like word for word what
she said, because at the endof the day, the dude is thirty.
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Justin is an old man at thispoint, so honestly, his mistakes
are his own. However, Icouldn't let you just paint her to be
some bitter baby mama because that ain'twhat she's been given over the last twenty
years. No, I didn't dothat. I painted her as why are
you talking about that man's money now? Because she gets stop with her baby
daddy, So I should have keptmy child with men thirty all, he's
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thirty. The money geta like youattack the money. But you've done everything
but talk about your son, okay. And if you're and if you're trying
to say that the influence that didhe has on her your son is bad,
then okay. I would rather hersay that I hate the way that
my son looks up to you andadmires his dad. That's what she said.
You know how stupid that sounds too, So you can't say that.
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So you can't say, oh,I hate the way that that my son
admires his father, that he didn'teven in birth, that he that's his
step son and he treats like him. Oh wait a minute, that's his
real son. Yeah, says thatthat ain't No, you got the wrong
songs. You got the wrong soyou're talking about the wrong. Ain't even
talking about the right. Sun Yeah, so you're wrong. Now you need
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to apologize. Igiz the pink laptopbecause your pats ain't even lap laptop.
Is why she didn't have to bringup the pink laptop. But that was
pet I don't know what she's doingshe got, but I do apologize the
son exact. It's not the oneI thought. I'm thinking about the album.
You think about somebody that he takescare of. But that was that
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her son, though it's the otherson or something. No, she has
one son and that and that's it. Yeah, okay, did he got
a couple of baby mark, ButI just he's still thirty though twenty.
I don't know you to be.And I get it. It was her
time. She probably upset, upsetbecause now he gotta and I don't and
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I look that's how I'm sorry.I I don't want to make but you
got whatever he was gonna you gotta. You can't drive your porch now or
whatever. You're driving your made bagswithout the thing, and then you gotta
blow hard a machine. That's whatyou done want. My uncle had one.
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My uncle. Let me tell y'all. So my uncle rest in peace,
Uncle Roy, my uncle, youblow it. No, he never
made me blow. He'd be cussinglike him, get a name, cause
you gotta put the car in man, yep, man. He sitting Second
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City parking a lot for about threehours. What they try to get that
car started? A breath? Yes, man, rest of the feast of
my because I had the same thing. But I thought it was a like
he didn't tell me I was akid, so he needed me to blow
in it. So clearly he wasdrunk driving me. He like, he
like, hey, niece, Ineed you to blow. I'm gonna show
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you got to blow in there,and that's how you're gonna start the car.
And I'm like, oh, Iget to start the car. He's
like, yes, you get tostart the car. I'm like, dang,
I want me to ride everywhere withhim crying. He's like, never
start, I'm just riding danger Danstarting, he starting. It's hilarious.
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Man, Hey ladies do but hey, well, your man's making money a
certain time. I have a ware, especially if it's legal. Don't get
don't get mad after. It's likethe girls who did date the Joke boys
and then when he cheated on them, they stay called the police. That's
I'm like, you can't do that. Now you're going from the dope.
Oh man, let's go ahead,get to this before we wrap up.
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Drake. See wearing nail polish Isthat a thing now, guys? Some
guys, yeah, I do wearclear I get paint your toes. I
don't do my toes. You don'tput the CP. I just buff my
toes. Why not on your toes? I don't want to do it on
my toes. I don't. Idon't want you show your feet like like
like at nine pool activities, Nonone pool electivity. I barely show them
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there. I usually wear socks.It's a personal thing. I like my
feet will be nice if they haveto come off. So y'all don't grill
in the uncle slide. I gottrack feet, okay, years a track,
but once you get what you Onceyou get to a certain age,
you don't care no more. Ididn't see men toes like like they just
don't care. What fifty to sixty? Yeah, like my don't believed seventy.
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He don't believe in. I don'tbelieve in wearing socks, would saying
he like he like it, discusshim. But also, I mean he
chopped for him. Man that helike rubbish. He'd be like, he's
like, man, he put plasticon that, that's crazy. He like
they made cream for that. Hey, I know a cream that I don't
get it. He's like, hedon't get it. He's like wearing socks,
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sasin those socks and condoms, like, what the hell is that?
Oh my god, oh my god. Discussing. So he wears his toes
out right, Oh he got histoes out, y'all justin got there.
That's the thing. Yeah, theolder y'all get, the more free you
become. My life, you'll wearthem. I would never have my I
got respect for my for my fellowhumans. I'm not putting these feet out,
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even though they're not bad. Buty'all be letting y'all toes out,
especially to tell ladies, y'all gotthat one toe, it's aggravated. I'm
gonna tell you, ladies. Andif you got that, what you got,
If you got that second long toe, that second to the big toe
and it's touching the ground, that'sdisgusting. Keep that tucked, that little
tuck, that long mug in.It's like the big long second toes.
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Like God, that means something.It means something. It also means something
with your fingers too, like ifyour fingers are long, it's something that
means. But a lot of peopleare getting foot surgery. Y'all heard about
this. What's like they're getting theirfeet done like bbls, you get your
booty done, now you get yourfeet done. A lot of women the
diatrius. Yeah, there's a bigthing that's doing it right now. I
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mean I would agree with that.I mean, I pay attention to women's
feet, feeding, hands, andlips, but those are like my three
touch points instantly. Yeah, SoI mean I don't know, but I
do. I do. I don'tthink nothing's wrong with men who paint their
nails. Like if that's your creativeoutreach, that I just don't want you
in my nail salon now. Ihave told y'all this before. I really
wish they would create a nail salonjust for me. I don't want.
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I don't get it. I don'twant y'all something. It's something gender something.
I'm telling y'all, tatty y'all beingin our nail salon over there,
go get your nails on in thebarber shop. Why why because why y'all
over here? Like, don't comeover here. This is another place for
us to stare women. That's why. That's it. We like staring women.
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Like if you go guys go togym gyms and it not not.
I ain't creepy. I never reallytry to talk to not one woman in
my gym. Maybe one time longtime, maybe too. But you look,
but I like to look. Itinspires you, exactly, It gives
you. Aire you lift the weights. It's a woman around. Ask any
guy, woman around in front ofyou while you lift the weight. You
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do. But I just taught methat that's not how we feel with y'all
in the nail salon. I wanty'all out. I don't want to come
get my nails on or get mypedicured. And I'm sitting next to tounk
upon. Why are you here?Because my feet not done, so I
gotta put my feet up there undone. And you're sitting right here looking you
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know what I'm saying, like,get out of space. They shouldn't be
that bad, but women like togo. We'd like to go get our
stuff done with our hair, likewe might not put on no fit.
Our hair ain't done, makeup ain'tdone. This is a safe space where
we can go in there and getget right. We're gonna get waxes,
our mustache. Everything is getting thewax in a little light and you know,
in the in the nail salon.Yeah, because then they'll call you
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out. You were like you've beenI want to nails and pedicure. You
want the mustache like they do thatto you nail So I don't want her
doing that. Why Zach Books sittingnext to me in the in the nail
salon like like you know what I'msaying. Now, you know I don't
need you to know me like that, And I need that to be a
safe space. So when I getrich, I'm opening up a male only
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salion. Y'all can go over there. I still think if if you do
a male only salon. You haveto have all women working there, that's
fine, okay, And you needto have some women there. Let's go
to them same just we need somewomen sitting next to us too. They
didn't show the massages. And whenyou get a massage, I mean it
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depends. Yeah, I got onerecently. I enjoyed that. Now you
got a Yeah, I wasn't intawhat get massages? That here? The
ones that do other stuff in theback, No, I'm not letting them
pankies, let but they offer itin a certain spots. I don't want
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to good all right, I've neverbeen that people that do that, that's
that's that's what's a wild like likethe stuff that the Shan Watson was allegedly
it's wild, bro like I don'tknow, just whipping the hammer on chicks
that you don't even know. It'sdifferent, Like, hey, look,
now will I do that if we'rein a relationship and we did you see
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it already? Yeah, I look, I would do all type of wild
stuff. When you told us,you told us you wake up people with
it on their forehead before it's funny. Told us that's not funny. That's
like a relationship but yeah, hedidn't tell us that. He didn't tell
us be doing eating. He's like, he's like, oh my god,
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Oh alright man, tho. Iknow y'all enjoyed this episode because we are
in rare form, said day,don't tell diddie what I said, But
can you tell your friends to washthe pie? Okay? I need for
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the Pride fam to expand Zoe whereyou've been there because I ain't seen a
couple recaps lately. Come on,Podfam, we need to turn it up.
All this good content. This needsto be shared with your with all
everybody in the group chat. Gojust put the link in the group chat
and walk away. They click onit. When we started talking about Tone
in his wild ways, just letthem figure it out on their own.
But put the put somebody onto thepot. That's there. We go,
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Yeah, Zach, the thoughts brothey hey man, final thoughts, y'all
stay up. That was funny.That was so funny. Love y'all,
Love y'all. We need some Tshirts or something. We got the summer
coming up. Can we get someT shirts? Yeah? You know I
had Maybe we can expand the podfastwith the Ali Baba Express, so they
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gotta take a little while get throughcustoms. Okay, oh my god.
Yeah man, you know what itis. Share the Pod, Like Ki
said, share, share, share, wanted pod family explained to expand.
With that being said, well morecan we say