September 2, 2023 • 40 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show, a new local expert joins the show from Clegg's Nursery! Join Chris and Butch along with the intern Anna-Claire! With questions on when to start planting fall vegetables when it's so dry out, plus lots of caller questions including:
When to start second fertilization on fruit trees?
Is there anything I can do to keep trees from drying out?
Will the dry weather affect this fall's citrus crop?
When do I put out winterizer?
How do deal with moss in yard and on live oaks?
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show, call (225) 499-9526 or use the Talkback Mic on our free iHeartRadio app Saturday mornings from 8 to 9 am!
When to start second fertilization on fruit trees?
Is there anything I can do to keep trees from drying out?
Will the dry weather affect this fall's citrus crop?
When do I put out winterizer?
How do deal with moss in yard and on live oaks?
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show, call (225) 499-9526 or use the Talkback Mic on our free iHeartRadio app Saturday mornings from 8 to 9 am!
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Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WGBO Lawn and Garden Show, brought
to you by Cleg's Nursery. Ifyou have a question about seasonal planting,
lawn and garden concerns, all ourquestions about landscaping, go four nine nine
WGBO. That's four nine nine ninetyfive two six. Good morning, and
(00:22):
welcome back to w JB years onGarden Show. Today. I'm here with
mister Chris and butchers from Cleg's Nursery. Good morning, good morning, Good
morning, Anna Claire. So,mister Chris, I've heard. I heard
you've worked with my grandfather for sevenyears. Seven years is correct? Since
twenty sixteen when we had the greatflood of Baton Rouge. Luck you.
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I've had to live with him forthirteen I like her. Do you have
some questions? I do have?You always have questions? What if somebody
else had question, they could callus at four nine nine two six out
of four to nine nine w JBO. You don't even remember your star eleven
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fifty, do you? No?Okay, don't think we won't bring it
up. Then. I don't thinkI really learned it that well either.
Well, I don't think it wasstill around. They booted it. Apparently
it wanted too much money. Ithad a contract negotiation, and just they
said go no dead airspace. Comeonnkey. It was either keep you or
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keep Star eleven fifty. I'm surprisedyou made that choice. Then, well
the coin only had two sides.Oh okay, I have a question.
If you could only plant for him, okay, mister Kris, Then if
you could only plant one plant,what would it be? One plant?
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Oh, that's a tough one.I guess my favorite would be and azalea.
I mean, it's an old standbyand it's just one of my favorite
plants. Well, it's a coolplant. You got so many different you
can do size ranges with it,you know, you got the different color
blooms, and like you said,that's the surprising but very good answer.
I was curious about it myself becauseit is the traditional Louisiana plantation home,
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you know, the zelias under thelive oaks. Yes, my grandmother had
him in her yard and she's probablythe reason why I'm in this business,
because I used to dig up herzelius almost every year and move them.
That's my film for them? Isit? They did well? Well,
maybe that's the secret. Maybe peopleleave them in the same spot. Too
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interesting answer. Thanks cool. Okay, let's see you could have done some
cuttings of plants. How did youget interesting? Interested in that? Say
that again, cuttings? Cool,m I'm not really big and cuttings.
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We gave some plants. You didcuttings. Well, that's because we have
a lakeview jasmine and it gets outof control, so I prune it,
and my wife, Holly picks upall the cuttings and makes cuttings with them.
We have too many plants. Iwant to throw them away or compost
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them would be best. Yes,we don't throw plants away. We compost
them, but she, uh,she makes cuttings. So we have plants
everywhere in the yard. But it'sreally easy to make a cutting from most
plants. There's some that are moredifficult, but you take a plant and
you make a new one. Weprobably shouldn't tell people that we might go
out of business. You're right.I thought you were more. I didn't
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realize it was all Holly. Ohit's Holly. I should have known.
Ye. She saves everything, includingcuttings. I have a question. While
we're waiting for this phone call togo through LSU or Florida State, LSU
go Tigers. There we go.That's what I was hoping for. Okay,
I think the collar. Let's goto the collar. You do it.
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Good morning, Philip. Welcome towjvos On and Garden Show. How
may we help you today? Goodmorning Anna Claire. It's Philip again.
Look, guys, is it toolate for me to do my second fertilization
on my fruit trees? What typeof trees? Well? I got some
citrus and some figs, and Imissed the you know, the late summer
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because it was just so dry,and I just was wondering, if you
know I usually do too fertile inspring and you know late summer. I
probably And Chris, if you disagree, I understand completely. I would probably
say no. On the figs,I would agree because they they're going to
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be they're almost into a fource dormancyright now because of the dry weather.
So I don't and to benefit tothat. What do you think about the
citrus, Chris? Maybe at halfthe rate, but make sure when you
apply the fertilizer water it. Yes, I agree, since you didn't do
your second one half rate right now, just right now. Moisture is the
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most important thing that we can doanytime we fertilize anything, is to make
sure we get that release of thatfertilizer. But if you can do it
here pretty soon, I would.One of the issues in fertilizing citrus too
late is we don't want to geta lot of succulent growth in case we
actually do eventually get cool or coldweather. So yeah, half rate on
the citrus, but I definitely wouldnot do anything with the figs. Okay,
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well, I'm gonna do it thismorning. That's why I called so
early. All right. The otherthing is about the fig trees. You
know that you're right, the leavesare just about gone. You should I
keep watering them? Could you canstart to back off once the leaves have
come off the tree. The treesreally is then in to a dormancy and
is again except from my son whenhe was young, nothing eats while they
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sleep. So once it's gone intothat dormancy, you don't really have to
worry about as much moisture or anyfertilization. All right, Elvis, thank
you so much. Thanks for tocall Philip That opens up phone lines at
four nine nine nine five two sixat four nine nine WJBO this is dirty.
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Yeah, you want to ask anotherquestion. You want to sit there
and look at me. Well,I thought you were gonna ask me something
like I did l s U FloridaState and you never said, oh ls
show very good, very good.Okay, let's see, do you think
Florida State's even gonna show up?Probably ask a question. We're dying here.
(06:50):
Okay, let's should we start plantingfall of vegetables? Wow? I
actually ended mine in July? Thatwas early. What did you plant tomatoes?
Okay? No, I think Iactually think tomatoes you need to have
gone in with because as our daylinks get shorter and as we start to
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get in cooler temperatures to get afall tomato, I think you plant it
perfectly. I'm assuming. More soyou're talking about like your cabbage, cauliflower,
broccoli, those type what I callmore traditional fall vegetables. I heard
Johnny Naylor, who has worked withCLEG since the flood of twenty sixteen,
telling a customer the other day becausethey were asking them what should we plant,
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and he says, I'd be plantingeverything right now, except it's too
hot. And too dry. SoI'm gonna go with that answer. It's
just on those type plants, yourbroccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, they are
very heat sensitive and as young plantsit's not as big of an issue,
but as they start to mature,if it's too hot, they'll bolt.
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And what bolting is is they actuallygo to flower, and once they go
to flower, the plant is useless. You can you might as well pull
it out and throw it away.So my suggestion on the true winter plants
is let's hold off a little bitlonger. What do you think, Chris,
I actually planted broccoli and the colorflower two weeks ago. But you're
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taking a chance. I mean hopefullyit'll get cooler. I mean I'm keeping
them watered. It all depends onthe weather. And as young plants you
don't have the issue with the boltingas you would once say, mature.
But like you said, hopefully thisbreak soon. We have a caller.
We do have a caller. Doyou want to go to the collar you
want to make them wait? UWe'll go to the caller. All right,
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Good morning, val, Welcome toWjbslan and Garden Show. How may
we help you today? Hi?I have some big trees in my yard,
and I've seen a lot of bigtrees like around town drying out,
So I don't should do that,like prevent them from completely drying. That's
an excellent question. Bell. Thebest way to water large trees like that
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is what we call soaker hoses.There hoses that permeate the water throughout the
entire length of the hose. Youcan get them. I don't like them
much over seventy five foot long becauseit tends the ends don't get as much
water. But take that soaker hose, wrap it around the tree, preferably
right about what we call the dripline. That's the outer edge of the
tree, where the outermost leaves are. Turn your hose on and leave it
(09:37):
go for twelve to twenty four hours. That's the best way. But Bell,
you are very very smart to seeall that and to understand that these
trees are in serious trouble. Oneof the biggest things that we're facing is
if we do get a hurricane.When trees get as dry as they are,
the wood becomes very brittle, andyou I've seen some Anna Claire has
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an extremely large limb down in herbackyard, which is basically a train down
because of how dry all the treesare. And we're seeing lots of especially
from what they call water oaks droppinglarge limbs because the trees are so brittle.
But yeah, get a soaker hose, try to put it right about
the drip line of the tree,and let it just run for twelve to
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twenty four hours. That's the bestway. And I have heard I don't
know if you have, Chris,but I think we have a ninety percent
chance of rain today. I believeso cool. We'll see. Yeah that,
Yeah, it doesn't look like itright now. But rain is the
most important thing. But yes,if at all possible, if you have
a stately live oak, or evenany type of a large tree, getting
water on them is very important.Okay, thank you, thanks Bill,
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great call. I'm surprised you haven'trequested specific bump music today. I think
we need a little Margaritaville. Well, no, she might be going to
a concert tonight. Oh what concert? Oh nice? Did she invite me?
No? I wouldn't invite you either. I don't ask a question,
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Anna Claire. Okay, let's see, Well, the dryness affect the citrus
the citrus crop. This fall.I know, the cold hurt some of
the trees. Also, Yes,we have definitely had a double whammy on
citrus this year. Who show wasthat where they had no whammy's? It
(11:35):
was a game show pressure luck?That's it very good. Who was the
host? Peter to Marken? Anyway, the cold weather and again there's some
debate whether it was the December coldsnap or the February cold snap. Actually
a lot of citrus trees did notproduce this year because of those cold snaps,
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and there was a lot of damagedtissue on on trees. Most of
the and I again if you ifyou've heard differently Chris, but most of
the oranges, grapefruits, satsuma's cumquats had some damage but seemed to come
through pretty well. Maybe a littleless fruit on them than normal. But
any lemons or limes that were outare no longer with us after that.
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So that was one of the bighits then. Actually in our nursery industry,
there was an extreme shortage of sis. Yes, we just got some
in what last week. Yeah,we've been out all summer. I mean,
I don't remember how long were weout of satsumas. It just seemed
probably four months month. We do. Actually in spring we have what the
brown select owari. Did we getany armstrong? No, we got our
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what is arctic frost frosty and memelo miho Milo, I bless you,
thank you, But yeah, wedo have Satsuma's back in stock. Finally,
to answer your question about citrus qualitydue to the dryness, what do
you think, Chris, if theyhave fruit, the fruit is probably gonna
be small because I mean, ifyou think about it, the fruit it
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is made up of seventy percent water. So unless they're watering on a regular
basis, they're going to be smalland they may be dry. Yeah,
you may. We have we havemay have a situation where we have what
we call dry wedges where the likeChris said, a citrus is seventy percent
of water, so if there's nowater there, you're gonna have thirty percent
of pup pup or pulp pulp pulppups are a little clear. Where did
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you find this guy? I canleave you know, but yes, there
will be some issues with citrus.Chris pointed out, I would not fertilize.
I know Philip asked about that earlier. I just at this point,
I don't want to spur a lotof growth. I don't want to.
I want the energy that the planthas, as much of that as possible
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to go into the fruit. Mostimportant thing is, let's go to bells
question. Let's get some soaker hosesout there, sprinklers. Chris, by
the way, I didn't tell you. We do have a soapbox over here
in the corner. So if youwant to pull it over and get onto
the watering thing, Timing, you'remore than welcome to get on my soapbox.
Yes, we need to water.One of the biggest things that we
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see in the nursery as people comein and say, oh I water every
day for ten minutes. Ten minuteslong enough. That is not long enough,
that barely keeps the dust down.Have a little story. Holly and
I went to Houston last July.So July a year ago. My in
laws live in a gated community inSpring, Texas. We drive in the
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gate. Everyone's lawing is brown.Most of their shrubs are turning brown.
I turned to Holly and say,I bet sure they're sprinklers are set for
ten minutes every day. Get tomy in law's house. That's what it's
set to ten minutes every day.So I told her I'm going to fix
it. I changed it to thirtyminutes every other day. I may have
gone forty five minutes. She calledme a month later said everything was green.
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Yeah. So it just goes toshow you you need to water for
a long period of time duration,not frequency. See thank you, long
periods of time, but not veryoften. I mean. And it goes
back to what we look for inrain. If you get that gully washer,
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where does all the water go.It's at the curb going into the
storm drains. And if you're watering, even with these nice sprinkler systems,
if you're watering for five to tenminutes, like you said, and it
was perfect, Chris. It's settlingthe dust is all it's doing. I
tell people when they come into thestore, I say, well, I'm
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watered, I'm watering. Take atrowel after you get done. Air quotes
watering. Dig down, See howdeep that water goes. If you're watering
for ten minutes, or even ifyou're water for twenty minutes, you may
get what half inch And actually Idug I ran her sprinkler, and then
I went out and dug and itwas about half an inch and then underneath
that was powder. It was dryexactly. And then I'm not going to
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explain this the way Alan Owens would, but when you have an extremely dry
soil, it is very porous andthe water has a tendency. It's difficult
for the soil to absorb the water. So we want that slow watering,
what forty five minutes an hour withsome of these systems, so that it
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just slowly soaks in and rehydrates.That Think about a sponge that has dried
out on your kitchen sink and youwhen you first run water on it,
what happens? It just runs off. So you want it to be able
to be slowly so that sponge canabsorb the water and rehydrate. That's what
we need to do with our soil. So every other day, forty five
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minutes an hour, I think isthe way to water. You know we
tobell earlier are about the large trees. That's extremely and it's again I wish
Alan was here to be able andyou may know the answer to this.
The amount of water a tree absorbsout of the ground every day is just
unbelievable. So soaking those hoses withsoaker hoses is the only way to do
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large plants. You can do thisin your flower beds. Micro irrigation.
Yes, that is the way togo. And it is so easy.
I'm gonna insult a bunch of lists. Even engineers can do it, obviously,
joke, but no, it isextremely simple to put together. You
have what I call a trunk line. It's a half inch line. You
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lay that out in your flower bed. Come in. You know, if
you could do even a very crudedrawing of your shrubs, we can,
you know, Okay, you needit what we call a shrubbler here or
shrubler there. Well, I've gotsome crape myrtles. Okay, Well let's
put three shrublers around the crape myrtleto kind of compensate because it is a
larger plant. If you have beddingplants, we have what it called spectrum
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I think is the one that spraysall over the place. But the when
do you think is the best timeof day to water? In the morning?
First thing in the morning is thebest time. It's cooler, winds
are low, the waters allowed tosoak into the soil, and the sun
comes up and drives off, thedrives off the leaves. But I usually
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tell people, if you get homefrom work in the evening and your plants
are dry, water them. Butwhen you get into the habit of watering
in the evening or at night,you can develop fungus. So the best
time is in the morning. Well, and I agree exactly with what you
said. I if you only canwater at nine pm at night, water
at nine pm at night, butideal, and we have timers. Now
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you can set these systems up.You can set your garden hose with a
sprinkler on it on a time ornowadays run it at you know, I
know bouton Ridge Water, and Iunderstand they're trying to keep people from watering
from like that six am to eightam, because you know people are getting
up, shower and getting ready forworking. On set up for five o'clock,
you know, let it run forforty five minutes and it shuts off
before the peak use each time,and even if you want to start at
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four thirty. But it's so easyto do that. And you can set
these timers to run every other day. You don't have to run them every
day, and you can leave andgo to work and it shuts itself off.
So there's ways of watering that you'renot how much do you despise the
guy out in his yard with hisfinger on the end of the host's not
watering enough, He's not I mean, he may be out there an hour,
(19:30):
but he's not watering that one plantfor an hour, right. And
the other thing is, you know, it goes back to this dry sponge.
You've got a stream of water spewingat this plant. Half of it's
flowing away. If you're lucky,you're getting half of it. And the
other thing that with the micro irrigationsystems, even with regular sprinkler systems.
Again, if the only time youcan water is two pm in the afternoon,
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water at two pm. But youdo have to realize, especially as
hot as we are, we're losinga lot of that water to vapor.
Yes. So I had a customerwhen I was at the Greenwood Spring store
and she was having a problem withwatering, and she's sitting I asked her,
how long do you order for?Oh, an hour? It's like
one plant or your whole yard?Oh, no, one plant. Well,
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I happened to be driving by herhouse and she was out there like
spraying the foliage of an azalea,Like, yeah, she's not she's water
in her whole yard. Yeah,so and spraying what do you think about
spraying the foliage? Is that reallythat helpful? Really depends on the plant
and how dry it is. Imean, it'll help slow down transporation,
but really you need to get thewater on the soil. Yes, I
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mean most of your water I meanI'm ninety percent at least is absorbed through
the roots. The roots. Yes, Now there's there's plants out there that
like orchids and things like that.It's all through the foliage. But we
won't get into all that. Now. Are you going to let Jeremy do
this thing real quick? Oh?Yes? So anyway four score and seven
years ago or I'm oh, thatwasn't the thing you wanted me to do.
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(21:23):
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(23:15):
think we ought to go to him? I think we have to go to
him. Do we have to ordo we have the option? I mean
we have option, but he hasa good question. Okay, we ignore
him at work, don't That's right? Good morning, Zane. Welcome to
w j B as One and GardenShow. How may we help you today?
Wow, it's really weird being onthe other end of the line.
(23:37):
Good morning, Zane, Good morning. How are we going doing well?
We were doing great? Yeah,I know until I called exactly I was
calling and figured that out. Yeah, anyway, though I was calling,
Well, we thank you for thatcall. Please feel free to call us
at any time. Oh man,I didn't know I missed you. So
(24:00):
anyway, I was walking through myyard and I'm putting out bug blaster today
to take care of my side webworms that we've got going on. There
was one of our things we weregoing to talk about. Yeah, but
the big thing I'm wondering is when'sthe right time to put out winterizer since
we've just had we had all thishunt drought, the weather. You know,
(24:22):
I don't I wouldn't want to stressout my grass. That's a good
question. And actually, Chris andI at the break we're talking, one
of the things we did want totalk about was side web worms. If
we haven't had what we've had,chinch bugs, we've had all sorts of
the drought, everything that we couldhave, the cold weather last winter,
(24:44):
everything that we could have go wrong, and our lawns has gone wrong.
And we do have active side webworms. Bug blaster by Finthrone, which
you put out this morning. Onceyou put it out, let's running our
sprinkler on it for about twenty minutesto water it into the soil. It's
very effective. Do sell it ina liquid form if you want to hook
it to the end of your endof your hose, that's you know fine.
(25:07):
Uh, but yeah, the bugblaster, I say, let's get
it out as soon as possible.What are your thoughts on winter riser,
Chris. Usually this is when usuallythis is when you want to put it
out, when the grass is actuallygrowing, but it's just so hot and
dry. You know, again,if you put it out, make sure
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you water it in well. Andthat's where I'm man, It's just you
know, I just got to makesure it put out enough water correct.
I'm the other thing, Zaine andI do appreciate this call because it was
something we definitely wanted to discuss.Our grasp Our grass is so dormant.
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Is it going to be able toabsorb the fertilizer? Probably not. That's
a good point, you know.It's again goes back to Jason's the only
person I know that could eat whilehe was sleeping in grass is very dormant.
If we get this now. Iended up starting watering my lawn about
two weeks ago, and I,like Chris talked about his in laws in
Houston. I've got my grass togreen back up, so I would be
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comfortable putting out winterizer right now.But if you have not been able to
keep up for one reason or otherwith water in your lawn, and your
lawn has any that dull green appearanceto it, not that bright green,
I just think it's sleeping and itis not going to take the winterizer up.
At this point, We're supposed toninety percent chance of rain today,
which definitely will wake us a lotup. But bug blaster definitely winterizer.
(26:37):
I would unless you've been water inyour lawn, I would probably wait Okay,
thanks for the thanks for the answers. Guys, thanks for the colt.
Appreciate it. Enjoy your day off. What's right? I actually I
have a follow up question. Consideringthe weather and everything, when would it
be too late to put out winterizingthe same thing that I was just talking
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about. You we need, infact well a lot of people that come
in and ask for winterizer. Theygo if I don't want to get anybody,
I don't want to get crossways withanybody. But there are a certain
faction of people that do not likeany nitrogen in a winteriz or fertilizer,
and that is that is wrong becauseyou want the grass to be active.
(27:21):
I don't know why I talk withmy hands. You want the grass to
be actively growing so that it canabsorb, it can take up the potassium,
which is what the winter riser is. So you do want some nitrogen
and you do want some growth goingon. So what we want to do
is make sure we put our winterizerout before we have our normal winter dormancy,
(27:42):
which for us what late middle ofNovember November, you know, late
October, middle middle of November.But there's still time. There's just because
this heat apparently is going to comeright back. I mean, I may
not as bad, but we're notgetting rid of it anytime soon. So
it's and it's not so much theheat, dryness and the dryness exactly.
(28:03):
We need that grass. You know, grass loves it hot, but it
also wants some moisture to be growing. We're in a forced dormancy right now
because of how dry things are,so the window is going to be much
tighter to do winterizer. But alsoI think this would be the most important
year that you've ever put winterizer out, because what winterizer does is it conditions
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the grass, so it makes thegrass go into its dormancy as healthy as
possible. So next spring it's goingto come out much better. It's kind
of like, you know, Idon't even know a good analogy, and
I can't believe I can't come upwith one. Normally I can. But
you want to be healthy when yougo to bed at night. You know,
That's why we take a lot ofour medication before we go to sleep.
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Because we're sleeping, we're not active, We're not doing a lot of
stuff so that our bodies can absorbthe medication or whatever it is. So
when we wake up in the morning, we are that much stronger the same.
That's what winter or does. Winterriser makes your grass as strong as
possible, keeps it healthy during thewinter while it's sleeping, so it can
wake up vigorous and ready to go. FO six. That's four nine nine.
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W JBO beat you to it,daughter, sleeping on the job.
I was about to say we hadanother caller a bit, I mean that
workstand all right, let's go tothe other caller. Good morning, Ben,
Welcome to w JB as Lone andGarden Show. How may we help
you today? Yes, hi,hi, I have a question on moss
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and I've been noticing them in myyard. And I mean, obviously butterflies
are credating. All butterflies are freeto fly exactly three flyers. What about
don't need to do anything to worryabout him getting rid of them? Yeah?
Anything? Yes, Actually, Ben, if you would listen during the
calls while you're on hold, youwould have heard the answer to this.
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But yeah, I'm sorry. Thisis my son in laws, so I
gotta give him grief. But yeah, Ben, I when I picked up
Anne Claire, I did notice thatyou do actually have sideweb worm. Moss
in your especially that side yard there. But it is something I saw him
yesterday. I was walking around inmy yard and as we talked to Zaint
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a minute ago, it is goingto become a huge problem. Why is
it? It seems like they aremore active when we're dry like this,
If you notice that or not reallyokay, but I don't know why.
Yeah, but I guess we needto tell people is we were talking about
side weebworms. The moth is theadult form of the sideweb worms, so
they really need to be looking forthe moss and when they have that moth,
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they need to apply that bug blaster. Right, the moth is not
doing the damage. It's the larvathat's in the yard that's doing the damage.
But obviously you're not going to digaround and find the little worm down
there. So yeah, once wesee the moss, and another thing that
you can do if you're concerned aboutit. And the moths are active in
the yard usually earlier in the morningand then later in the evenings, and
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they actually go into the shrubbery duringthe day because it's cooler for them there.
So if if you're out in themiddle of the day, maybe go
brush up against any shrubs in youryard and see if it's a little small
brown moth is what we're looking for. But yeah, it's very active bug
blaster, either in a granular ora liquid form. I do have people,
and I kind of understand it.I'm not gonna belittle them for doing
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it, but they get so madat them that they'll get the liquid bug
blaster and they'll spread in the shrubberyduring the day just to kill, just
to kill the moths. So ifyou want a little vindictiveness it to you,
you can definitely do that. Butwe do need to get the chemical
out in the yard to kill thelarva. And plenty of water and plenty
of water. Thanks many thanks,see shortly. Don't you think this show
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has gone much better with Chris here? Yes, it definitely has. Thank
you. You're welcome. I don'tfeel that, but thank you. You've
done great. Are you insinuating thatwhen other people are here it doesn't go
as well? We're talking sane?Oh well, he was here today though,
So the show was good, wellexcept for that segment and it dropped
off. Oh at that point.Really wow, he's feeling in very well.
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Well. Congratulations, I know itconfused you, bich, but someone
has used a talk back mike onour free iHeartRadio app to leave a message
for us, well for one ofus. Would you would you like to
guess who it is? I betit No, I don't want to spoil
the surprise. Well, here wego. This is a message left on
the talk back mike on our iHeartRadioapp. Hi. I would just like
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to say that I'm counting down thedays for Anna Claire's birthday. This is
for you, Anna Claire, bythe way, so happy early birthday.
And also, y'all are doing veryvery great today. Good job. See
even the listeners think it's been agood show. Well, thank you.
And we have a caller. Youngpeople are the only people that are gonna
know it's pressing a button. Howare going to be? That's pretty hard.
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That's good point. I can pushpeople's buttons. Why don't we go
to the call? Okay, goodmorning, Wayne, Welcome to w j
B. Slane and guarde Jo.How may we help you today. I've
I've had a couple of live oaksthat the neighbors moss and blown over in
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the past hurricane to my live oaks, and I've noticed it's starting to kill
the small limbs in there. I'vewondering if what can I do about it?
There anything I can do about it? Unfortunately, nothing you can really
do on especially a large live oak. We do sell a copper spray that
will definitely slow when the spores getblown over there. As you said,
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it will keep them from sprouting.So my only any of the moss or
galls or ball moss is a termfor it, but it's not the one
that's killing everything. Once it's ontheir physical removals the only way you can
really do anything about it. Butyeah, if you'll periodically spray the stems
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with a copper spray, it willdefinitely slow that down. Now, if
you're talking about actually Spanish moss,that is not killing your tree, that
is actually just using your tree forsupport. But yeah, that little i'm
gonna call it moss, it kindof balls around the stem that can be
detrimental. So yeah, copper sprayis going to be your best bet.
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Oh, that's a lot of copperspraying, a lot of work. I
know where you get it at clegs. Yeah, and that's you know,
that is an issue. You know, when you start getting into these large
live oaks. Is it really economicallyand physically able to do it? And
tree? It's not going to killthe tree, but you're just gonna periodic
because normally all it does is knocksout some of the smaller branches, which
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actually helps you with any of youryou know, the canopy of your tree,
so it's not it's unsightly. Andyes, it does kill off a
few smaller branches, but it's notgonna be something that's gone ultimately kill your
tree. All right, well,I appreciate the feedback. All right,
thank you, Wayne, And thatdoes open up phone lines at four ninety
nine nine five two six, Yes, four ninety nine w JBO and I
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have another question. You seem toalways have questions. Is that a good
That's a great thing. Okay,good. It was not a complaint for
once with all the watering. Shouldwe be concerned about the soil pH changes
or nutrient deficient deficiencies? Yes,very definitely. That's one of the things
that actually several years ago when wehad one of these severe drafts like this,
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mister Johnny Naylor, his vegetable gardenis his life, and I mean
that's why he is the vegetable expertin Baton rouge. We now carried Johnny
Naylor seeds at Clegg's because he hasgrown these things in his garden. He
actually monitored the pH change that summerbecause he was having to water Baton Ridge
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water is excellent. I'm not criticizingBaton Ridge water at any stretched. Imagination
has a higher pH though, Andhe actually changed his soil pH one full
point just over the summer, justover the summer. So yes, it
can affect especially container plants. Youcan you can see that nutrient deficiencies as
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you water, you're watering the nitrogenout of that. I won't do my
cowboy thing. Don't worry out.Have you ever heard my cowboy thing?
I don't think so okay, nitrogen, Yeah, I have to now nitrogen.
I picture it as a little cowboywith his little hat on, and
he's sitting there in your soil,hiding behind this little piece of dirt,
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and here comes the water molecule downfrom the sky or your hose, and
he's sitting there, and as soonas the water molecule gets right next to
him, he jumped on it's backand he goes. He rides all the
way down through the pot. You'llyou'll never get that visualization out of your
mind now. But yeah, so, yes, we are, especially in
container plants, leaching nutrients out,so we do definitely need to Uh,
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let's go to John, we'll finishus up with this question. Good morning,
John, Welcome to wjbo's Lawn andGarden Show. How many we help
you today? Yes, we havebeen watering our pot plants almost every day
because of the drought, and wehave large pot plants as well as smaller
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ones. And what we have donein with with these that is, we
have some concerns that the fertilizer,you know, the fertilizer, we keep
watering them every day, the fertilizerkind of goes away after a while.
Is it is it a bad timeto fertilize now or what? Yeah,
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Like, like I just did mylittle cowboy thing that that is one of
the most important things we do,especially in container plants, is we definitely
want to keep nutrients there because youknow, the nitrogen is being washed out
every time we water. What wouldyou suggest they use, Chris, a
good granular slow release like ozma coator or a betting plant food or the
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grow. Yeah, that would havebeen. That's my recommendation. It's a
little bit quicker releasing, so wewill use it more often than we would
normally in a container plant, maybeonce a month. Right now. The
ozma coat that Chris suggested is alittle bit slower, so if you would
want to use that, you wouldhave a little bit more longevity with it
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in the pot. But right now, as much as we're having the water
and we're watering our pot plants daily, you definitely want to keep that nitrogen
there. So my suggestion would besomething not a quick release like a triple
eight or something like that, butsomething mid range like a grower special.
So but yeah, John, veryimportant. Yeah, that was something That's
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what I was gonna do. Allright. Oh, okay, thanks for
your help, thank you. What'syour favorite fall plant, Chris Pansy,
Pansy, that's a good, goodanswer. I like that all the different
colors, the little faces, purpleand gull, purple and gull, not
marooning whatever color that is, okay, Florida State. Oh well, my
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high school was maroon and white.No, it's maroon in gold or something.
Two really bad colors. I likeCroton's not croutons or not crotons,
crotons, I can't even say itnow. I like the croton because it's
the fall colors. Yes, youknow, it gives you the oranges,
the reds, the I don't wantto say brown, but it was yellow.
Yeah, those colors something you canput by your doorway. I'm sorry,
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it's going to die in the cold. It's gonna cost you seventeen ninety
nine, nineteen ninety nine. It'stwo basically two cup. It's a coffee
from Starbucks and you got it allfalls. So anyway, hey, Chris,
thank you so much. Thank youfor having me. It was a
lot of fun. Thank you,Anna Claire excellent as always. We are
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anyway, we are you've been listeningto news radio eleven fifty w j bo's
Lawn and Garden Show. We willsee you next Saturday morning at eight o'clock
Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WGBO Lawn and Garden Show, brought
to you by Cleg's Nursery. Ifyou have a question about seasonal planting,
lawn and garden concerns, all ourquestions about landscaping, go four nine nine
WGBO. That's four nine nine ninetyfive two six. Good morning, and
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welcome back to w JB years onGarden Show. Today. I'm here with
mister Chris and butchers from Cleg's Nursery. Good morning, good morning, Good
morning, Anna Claire. So,mister Chris, I've heard. I heard
you've worked with my grandfather for sevenyears. Seven years is correct? Since
twenty sixteen when we had the greatflood of Baton Rouge. Luck you.
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I've had to live with him forthirteen I like her. Do you have
some questions? I do have?You always have questions? What if somebody
else had question, they could callus at four nine nine two six out
of four to nine nine w JBO. You don't even remember your star eleven
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fifty, do you? No?Okay, don't think we won't bring it
up. Then. I don't thinkI really learned it that well either.
Well, I don't think it wasstill around. They booted it. Apparently
it wanted too much money. Ithad a contract negotiation, and just they
said go no dead airspace. Comeonnkey. It was either keep you or
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keep Star eleven fifty. I'm surprisedyou made that choice. Then, well
the coin only had two sides.Oh okay, I have a question.
If you could only plant for him, okay, mister Kris, Then if
you could only plant one plant,what would it be? One plant?
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Oh, that's a tough one.I guess my favorite would be and azalea.
I mean, it's an old standbyand it's just one of my favorite
plants. Well, it's a coolplant. You got so many different you
can do size ranges with it,you know, you got the different color
blooms, and like you said,that's the surprising but very good answer.
I was curious about it myself becauseit is the traditional Louisiana plantation home,
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you know, the zelias under thelive oaks. Yes, my grandmother had
him in her yard and she's probablythe reason why I'm in this business,
because I used to dig up herzelius almost every year and move them.
That's my film for them? Isit? They did well? Well,
maybe that's the secret. Maybe peopleleave them in the same spot. Too
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interesting answer. Thanks cool. Okay, let's see you could have done some
cuttings of plants. How did youget interesting? Interested in that? Say
that again, cuttings? Cool,m I'm not really big and cuttings.
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We gave some plants. You didcuttings. Well, that's because we have
a lakeview jasmine and it gets outof control, so I prune it,
and my wife, Holly picks upall the cuttings and makes cuttings with them.
We have too many plants. Iwant to throw them away or compost
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them would be best. Yes,we don't throw plants away. We compost
them, but she, uh,she makes cuttings. So we have plants
everywhere in the yard. But it'sreally easy to make a cutting from most
plants. There's some that are moredifficult, but you take a plant and
you make a new one. Weprobably shouldn't tell people that we might go
out of business. You're right.I thought you were more. I didn't
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realize it was all Holly. Ohit's Holly. I should have known.
Ye. She saves everything, includingcuttings. I have a question. While
we're waiting for this phone call togo through LSU or Florida State, LSU
go Tigers. There we go.That's what I was hoping for. Okay,
I think the collar. Let's goto the collar. You do it.
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Good morning, Philip. Welcome towjvos On and Garden Show. How
may we help you today? Goodmorning Anna Claire. It's Philip again.
Look, guys, is it toolate for me to do my second fertilization
on my fruit trees? What typeof trees? Well? I got some
citrus and some figs, and Imissed the you know, the late summer
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because it was just so dry,and I just was wondering, if you
know I usually do too fertile inspring and you know late summer. I
probably And Chris, if you disagree, I understand completely. I would probably
say no. On the figs,I would agree because they they're going to
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be they're almost into a fource dormancyright now because of the dry weather.
So I don't and to benefit tothat. What do you think about the
citrus, Chris? Maybe at halfthe rate, but make sure when you
apply the fertilizer water it. Yes, I agree, since you didn't do
your second one half rate right now, just right now. Moisture is the
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most important thing that we can doanytime we fertilize anything, is to make
sure we get that release of thatfertilizer. But if you can do it
here pretty soon, I would.One of the issues in fertilizing citrus too
late is we don't want to geta lot of succulent growth in case we
actually do eventually get cool or coldweather. So yeah, half rate on
the citrus, but I definitely wouldnot do anything with the figs. Okay,
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well, I'm gonna do it thismorning. That's why I called so
early. All right. The otherthing is about the fig trees. You
know that you're right, the leavesare just about gone. You should I
keep watering them? Could you canstart to back off once the leaves have
come off the tree. The treesreally is then in to a dormancy and
is again except from my son whenhe was young, nothing eats while they
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sleep. So once it's gone intothat dormancy, you don't really have to
worry about as much moisture or anyfertilization. All right, Elvis, thank
you so much. Thanks for tocall Philip That opens up phone lines at
four nine nine nine five two sixat four nine nine WJBO this is dirty.
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Yeah, you want to ask anotherquestion. You want to sit there
and look at me. Well,I thought you were gonna ask me something
like I did l s U FloridaState and you never said, oh ls
show very good, very good.Okay, let's see, do you think
Florida State's even gonna show up?Probably ask a question. We're dying here.
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Okay, let's should we start plantingfall of vegetables? Wow? I
actually ended mine in July? Thatwas early. What did you plant tomatoes?
Okay? No, I think Iactually think tomatoes you need to have
gone in with because as our daylinks get shorter and as we start to
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get in cooler temperatures to get afall tomato, I think you plant it
perfectly. I'm assuming. More soyou're talking about like your cabbage, cauliflower,
broccoli, those type what I callmore traditional fall vegetables. I heard
Johnny Naylor, who has worked withCLEG since the flood of twenty sixteen,
telling a customer the other day becausethey were asking them what should we plant,
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and he says, I'd be plantingeverything right now, except it's too
hot. And too dry. SoI'm gonna go with that answer. It's
just on those type plants, yourbroccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, they are
very heat sensitive and as young plantsit's not as big of an issue,
but as they start to mature,if it's too hot, they'll bolt.
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And what bolting is is they actuallygo to flower, and once they go
to flower, the plant is useless. You can you might as well pull
it out and throw it away.So my suggestion on the true winter plants
is let's hold off a little bitlonger. What do you think, Chris,
I actually planted broccoli and the colorflower two weeks ago. But you're
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taking a chance. I mean hopefullyit'll get cooler. I mean I'm keeping
them watered. It all depends onthe weather. And as young plants you
don't have the issue with the boltingas you would once say, mature.
But like you said, hopefully thisbreak soon. We have a caller.
We do have a caller. Doyou want to go to the collar you
want to make them wait? UWe'll go to the caller. All right,
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Good morning, val, Welcome toWjbslan and Garden Show. How may
we help you today? Hi?I have some big trees in my yard,
and I've seen a lot of bigtrees like around town drying out,
So I don't should do that,like prevent them from completely drying. That's
an excellent question. Bell. Thebest way to water large trees like that
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is what we call soaker hoses.There hoses that permeate the water throughout the
entire length of the hose. Youcan get them. I don't like them
much over seventy five foot long becauseit tends the ends don't get as much
water. But take that soaker hose, wrap it around the tree, preferably
right about what we call the dripline. That's the outer edge of the
tree, where the outermost leaves are. Turn your hose on and leave it
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go for twelve to twenty four hours. That's the best way. But Bell,
you are very very smart to seeall that and to understand that these
trees are in serious trouble. Oneof the biggest things that we're facing is
if we do get a hurricane.When trees get as dry as they are,
the wood becomes very brittle, andyou I've seen some Anna Claire has
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an extremely large limb down in herbackyard, which is basically a train down
because of how dry all the treesare. And we're seeing lots of especially
from what they call water oaks droppinglarge limbs because the trees are so brittle.
But yeah, get a soaker hose, try to put it right about
the drip line of the tree,and let it just run for twelve to
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twenty four hours. That's the bestway. And I have heard I don't
know if you have, Chris,but I think we have a ninety percent
chance of rain today. I believeso cool. We'll see. Yeah that,
Yeah, it doesn't look like itright now. But rain is the
most important thing. But yes,if at all possible, if you have
a stately live oak, or evenany type of a large tree, getting
water on them is very important.Okay, thank you, thanks Bill,
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great call. I'm surprised you haven'trequested specific bump music today. I think
we need a little Margaritaville. Well, no, she might be going to
a concert tonight. Oh what concert? Oh nice? Did she invite me?
No? I wouldn't invite you either. I don't ask a question,
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Anna Claire. Okay, let's see, Well, the dryness affect the citrus
the citrus crop. This fall.I know, the cold hurt some of
the trees. Also, Yes,we have definitely had a double whammy on
citrus this year. Who show wasthat where they had no whammy's? It
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was a game show pressure luck?That's it very good. Who was the
host? Peter to Marken? Anyway, the cold weather and again there's some
debate whether it was the December coldsnap or the February cold snap. Actually
a lot of citrus trees did notproduce this year because of those cold snaps,
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and there was a lot of damagedtissue on on trees. Most of
the and I again if you ifyou've heard differently Chris, but most of
the oranges, grapefruits, satsuma's cumquats had some damage but seemed to come
through pretty well. Maybe a littleless fruit on them than normal. But
any lemons or limes that were outare no longer with us after that.
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So that was one of the bighits then. Actually in our nursery industry,
there was an extreme shortage of sis. Yes, we just got some
in what last week. Yeah,we've been out all summer. I mean,
I don't remember how long were weout of satsumas. It just seemed
probably four months month. We do. Actually in spring we have what the
brown select owari. Did we getany armstrong? No, we got our
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what is arctic frost frosty and memelo miho Milo, I bless you,
thank you, But yeah, wedo have Satsuma's back in stock. Finally,
to answer your question about citrus qualitydue to the dryness, what do
you think, Chris, if theyhave fruit, the fruit is probably gonna
be small because I mean, ifyou think about it, the fruit it
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is made up of seventy percent water. So unless they're watering on a regular
basis, they're going to be smalland they may be dry. Yeah,
you may. We have we havemay have a situation where we have what
we call dry wedges where the likeChris said, a citrus is seventy percent
of water, so if there's nowater there, you're gonna have thirty percent
of pup pup or pulp pulp pulppups are a little clear. Where did
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you find this guy? I canleave you know, but yes, there
will be some issues with citrus.Chris pointed out, I would not fertilize.
I know Philip asked about that earlier. I just at this point,
I don't want to spur a lotof growth. I don't want to.
I want the energy that the planthas, as much of that as possible
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to go into the fruit. Mostimportant thing is, let's go to bells
question. Let's get some soaker hosesout there, sprinklers. Chris, by
the way, I didn't tell you. We do have a soapbox over here
in the corner. So if youwant to pull it over and get onto
the watering thing, Timing, you'remore than welcome to get on my soapbox.
Yes, we need to water.One of the biggest things that we
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see in the nursery as people comein and say, oh I water every
day for ten minutes. Ten minuteslong enough. That is not long enough,
that barely keeps the dust down.Have a little story. Holly and
I went to Houston last July.So July a year ago. My in
laws live in a gated community inSpring, Texas. We drive in the
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gate. Everyone's lawing is brown.Most of their shrubs are turning brown.
I turned to Holly and say,I bet sure they're sprinklers are set for
ten minutes every day. Get tomy in law's house. That's what it's
set to ten minutes every day.So I told her I'm going to fix
it. I changed it to thirtyminutes every other day. I may have
gone forty five minutes. She calledme a month later said everything was green.
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Yeah. So it just goes toshow you you need to water for
a long period of time duration,not frequency. See thank you, long
periods of time, but not veryoften. I mean. And it goes
back to what we look for inrain. If you get that gully washer,
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where does all the water go.It's at the curb going into the
storm drains. And if you're watering, even with these nice sprinkler systems,
if you're watering for five to tenminutes, like you said, and it
was perfect, Chris. It's settlingthe dust is all it's doing. I
tell people when they come into thestore, I say, well, I'm
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watered, I'm watering. Take atrowel after you get done. Air quotes
watering. Dig down, See howdeep that water goes. If you're watering
for ten minutes, or even ifyou're water for twenty minutes, you may
get what half inch And actually Idug I ran her sprinkler, and then
I went out and dug and itwas about half an inch and then underneath
that was powder. It was dryexactly. And then I'm not going to
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explain this the way Alan Owens would, but when you have an extremely dry
soil, it is very porous andthe water has a tendency. It's difficult
for the soil to absorb the water. So we want that slow watering,
what forty five minutes an hour withsome of these systems, so that it
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just slowly soaks in and rehydrates.That Think about a sponge that has dried
out on your kitchen sink and youwhen you first run water on it,
what happens? It just runs off. So you want it to be able
to be slowly so that sponge canabsorb the water and rehydrate. That's what
we need to do with our soil. So every other day, forty five
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minutes an hour, I think isthe way to water. You know we
tobell earlier are about the large trees. That's extremely and it's again I wish
Alan was here to be able andyou may know the answer to this.
The amount of water a tree absorbsout of the ground every day is just
unbelievable. So soaking those hoses withsoaker hoses is the only way to do
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large plants. You can do thisin your flower beds. Micro irrigation.
Yes, that is the way togo. And it is so easy.
I'm gonna insult a bunch of lists. Even engineers can do it, obviously,
joke, but no, it isextremely simple to put together. You
have what I call a trunk line. It's a half inch line. You
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lay that out in your flower bed. Come in. You know, if
you could do even a very crudedrawing of your shrubs, we can,
you know, Okay, you needit what we call a shrubbler here or
shrubler there. Well, I've gotsome crape myrtles. Okay, Well let's
put three shrublers around the crape myrtleto kind of compensate because it is a
larger plant. If you have beddingplants, we have what it called spectrum
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I think is the one that spraysall over the place. But the when
do you think is the best timeof day to water? In the morning?
First thing in the morning is thebest time. It's cooler, winds
are low, the waters allowed tosoak into the soil, and the sun
comes up and drives off, thedrives off the leaves. But I usually
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tell people, if you get homefrom work in the evening and your plants
are dry, water them. Butwhen you get into the habit of watering
in the evening or at night,you can develop fungus. So the best
time is in the morning. Well, and I agree exactly with what you
said. I if you only canwater at nine pm at night, water
at nine pm at night, butideal, and we have timers. Now
(18:44):
you can set these systems up.You can set your garden hose with a
sprinkler on it on a time ornowadays run it at you know, I
know bouton Ridge Water, and Iunderstand they're trying to keep people from watering
from like that six am to eightam, because you know people are getting
up, shower and getting ready forworking. On set up for five o'clock,
you know, let it run forforty five minutes and it shuts off
before the peak use each time,and even if you want to start at
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four thirty. But it's so easyto do that. And you can set
these timers to run every other day. You don't have to run them every
day, and you can leave andgo to work and it shuts itself off.
So there's ways of watering that you'renot how much do you despise the
guy out in his yard with hisfinger on the end of the host's not
watering enough, He's not I mean, he may be out there an hour,
(19:30):
but he's not watering that one plantfor an hour, right. And
the other thing is, you know, it goes back to this dry sponge.
You've got a stream of water spewingat this plant. Half of it's
flowing away. If you're lucky,you're getting half of it. And the
other thing that with the micro irrigationsystems, even with regular sprinkler systems.
Again, if the only time youcan water is two pm in the afternoon,
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water at two pm. But youdo have to realize, especially as
hot as we are, we're losinga lot of that water to vapor.
Yes. So I had a customerwhen I was at the Greenwood Spring store
and she was having a problem withwatering, and she's sitting I asked her,
how long do you order for?Oh, an hour? It's like
one plant or your whole yard?Oh, no, one plant. Well,
(20:15):
I happened to be driving by herhouse and she was out there like
spraying the foliage of an azalea,Like, yeah, she's not she's water
in her whole yard. Yeah,so and spraying what do you think about
spraying the foliage? Is that reallythat helpful? Really depends on the plant
and how dry it is. Imean, it'll help slow down transporation,
but really you need to get thewater on the soil. Yes, I
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mean most of your water I meanI'm ninety percent at least is absorbed through
the roots. The roots. Yes, Now there's there's plants out there that
like orchids and things like that.It's all through the foliage. But we
won't get into all that. Now. Are you going to let Jeremy do
this thing real quick? Oh?Yes? So anyway four score and seven
years ago or I'm oh, thatwasn't the thing you wanted me to do.
(20:59):
Don't forget about the u JBO Lawnand Garden Show podcast because apparently they've
forgotten how to get to it.Put you do not study the notes I
send you every week meticulously about howto use the iHeartRadio app and enjoy the
podcast. And why are you staringat me like a deer with the headlights
He doesn't check his email. Ishe stuck somebody? Somebody talks to make
sure it's not stuck anyway. Iget emails yes, and sometimes texts,
(21:23):
oh wow, that's what happens whenmy phone there's like words on it.
You're not just put you to throwit across room and say shut up a
devil device usually set up Chris,There you go. He threw the pin
at me. It was a goodarc on that one. Honestly, that
was beautiful slow motion. Anyway,if you download the iHeartRadio app, it's
free and free never sounded so good. You can search for w JBO Lawn
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you tell your smart device and email, well you actually what. We have
a thing called the talk back Mikeon the app. If you if you're
listening on the app right now onw JBO, when you just ask your
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It looks like a microphone. Youcan actually tap that and leave a message
for us and we can grab itand listen to it and maybe answer your
question that way as well. Soit's not just four nine nine nine five
two six. That's like more impressivethan Star eleven fifty. It is.
It really is, because everybody's gotit and it does not require a certain
phone. But yeah, I'm gonnaI need to put that note up there
(22:29):
for you guys, but you canuse a talk back mike as well,
and I'm working to get it onthe podcast thing. They've said they've activated
it like twice and I still don'tsee it. So apparently they haven't pushed
the right button yet. You're pushingmy buttons right now, am I?
I'm so sorry. I'm gonna goover here now. Yeah, why don't
you? I think I am too. Do you want to give out the
phone number? Sure? I don'tknow about that talk back mike thing.
(22:52):
Call us. That's up to you. Call us at four nine nine nine
five two six HAS four ninety ninew JBO, or you can try the
talk back mike thing, you knowwhat. That's fine. I'll send her
the notes from now on. That'sright, You're right, couldn't do better
that way. Anyway, I suggestwe actually ignore this caller or do you
(23:15):
think we ought to go to him? I think we have to go to
him. Do we have to ordo we have the option? I mean
we have option, but he hasa good question. Okay, we ignore
him at work, don't That's right? Good morning, Zane. Welcome to
w j B as One and GardenShow. How may we help you today?
Wow, it's really weird being onthe other end of the line.
(23:37):
Good morning, Zane, Good morning. How are we going doing well?
We were doing great? Yeah,I know until I called exactly I was
calling and figured that out. Yeah, anyway, though I was calling,
Well, we thank you for thatcall. Please feel free to call us
at any time. Oh man,I didn't know I missed you. So
(24:00):
anyway, I was walking through myyard and I'm putting out bug blaster today
to take care of my side webworms that we've got going on. There
was one of our things we weregoing to talk about. Yeah, but
the big thing I'm wondering is when'sthe right time to put out winterizer since
we've just had we had all thishunt drought, the weather. You know,
(24:22):
I don't I wouldn't want to stressout my grass. That's a good
question. And actually, Chris andI at the break we're talking, one
of the things we did want totalk about was side web worms. If
we haven't had what we've had,chinch bugs, we've had all sorts of
the drought, everything that we couldhave, the cold weather last winter,
(24:44):
everything that we could have go wrong, and our lawns has gone wrong.
And we do have active side webworms. Bug blaster by Finthrone, which
you put out this morning. Onceyou put it out, let's running our
sprinkler on it for about twenty minutesto water it into the soil. It's
very effective. Do sell it ina liquid form if you want to hook
it to the end of your endof your hose, that's you know fine.
(25:07):
Uh, but yeah, the bugblaster, I say, let's get
it out as soon as possible.What are your thoughts on winter riser,
Chris. Usually this is when usuallythis is when you want to put it
out, when the grass is actuallygrowing, but it's just so hot and
dry. You know, again,if you put it out, make sure
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you water it in well. Andthat's where I'm man, It's just you
know, I just got to makesure it put out enough water correct.
I'm the other thing, Zaine andI do appreciate this call because it was
something we definitely wanted to discuss.Our grasp Our grass is so dormant.
(25:49):
Is it going to be able toabsorb the fertilizer? Probably not. That's
a good point, you know.It's again goes back to Jason's the only
person I know that could eat whilehe was sleeping in grass is very dormant.
If we get this now. Iended up starting watering my lawn about
two weeks ago, and I,like Chris talked about his in laws in
Houston. I've got my grass togreen back up, so I would be
(26:11):
comfortable putting out winterizer right now.But if you have not been able to
keep up for one reason or otherwith water in your lawn, and your
lawn has any that dull green appearanceto it, not that bright green,
I just think it's sleeping and itis not going to take the winterizer up.
At this point, We're supposed toninety percent chance of rain today,
which definitely will wake us a lotup. But bug blaster definitely winterizer.
(26:37):
I would unless you've been water inyour lawn, I would probably wait Okay,
thanks for the thanks for the answers. Guys, thanks for the colt.
Appreciate it. Enjoy your day off. What's right? I actually I
have a follow up question. Consideringthe weather and everything, when would it
be too late to put out winterizingthe same thing that I was just talking
(27:00):
about. You we need, infact well a lot of people that come
in and ask for winterizer. Theygo if I don't want to get anybody,
I don't want to get crossways withanybody. But there are a certain
faction of people that do not likeany nitrogen in a winteriz or fertilizer,
and that is that is wrong becauseyou want the grass to be active.
(27:21):
I don't know why I talk withmy hands. You want the grass to
be actively growing so that it canabsorb, it can take up the potassium,
which is what the winter riser is. So you do want some nitrogen
and you do want some growth goingon. So what we want to do
is make sure we put our winterizerout before we have our normal winter dormancy,
(27:42):
which for us what late middle ofNovember November, you know, late
October, middle middle of November.But there's still time. There's just because
this heat apparently is going to comeright back. I mean, I may
not as bad, but we're notgetting rid of it anytime soon. So
it's and it's not so much theheat, dryness and the dryness exactly.
(28:03):
We need that grass. You know, grass loves it hot, but it
also wants some moisture to be growing. We're in a forced dormancy right now
because of how dry things are,so the window is going to be much
tighter to do winterizer. But alsoI think this would be the most important
year that you've ever put winterizer out, because what winterizer does is it conditions
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the grass, so it makes thegrass go into its dormancy as healthy as
possible. So next spring it's goingto come out much better. It's kind
of like, you know, Idon't even know a good analogy, and
I can't believe I can't come upwith one. Normally I can. But
you want to be healthy when yougo to bed at night. You know,
That's why we take a lot ofour medication before we go to sleep.
(28:47):
Because we're sleeping, we're not active, We're not doing a lot of
stuff so that our bodies can absorbthe medication or whatever it is. So
when we wake up in the morning, we are that much stronger the same.
That's what winter or does. Winterriser makes your grass as strong as
possible, keeps it healthy during thewinter while it's sleeping, so it can
wake up vigorous and ready to go. FO six. That's four nine nine.
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W JBO beat you to it,daughter, sleeping on the job.
I was about to say we hadanother caller a bit, I mean that
workstand all right, let's go tothe other caller. Good morning, Ben,
Welcome to w JB as Lone andGarden Show. How may we help
you today? Yes, hi,hi, I have a question on moss
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and I've been noticing them in myyard. And I mean, obviously butterflies
are credating. All butterflies are freeto fly exactly three flyers. What about
don't need to do anything to worryabout him getting rid of them? Yeah?
Anything? Yes, Actually, Ben, if you would listen during the
calls while you're on hold, youwould have heard the answer to this.
(30:00):
But yeah, I'm sorry. Thisis my son in laws, so I
gotta give him grief. But yeah, Ben, I when I picked up
Anne Claire, I did notice thatyou do actually have sideweb worm. Moss
in your especially that side yard there. But it is something I saw him
yesterday. I was walking around inmy yard and as we talked to Zaint
(30:21):
a minute ago, it is goingto become a huge problem. Why is
it? It seems like they aremore active when we're dry like this,
If you notice that or not reallyokay, but I don't know why.
Yeah, but I guess we needto tell people is we were talking about
side weebworms. The moth is theadult form of the sideweb worms, so
they really need to be looking forthe moss and when they have that moth,
(30:45):
they need to apply that bug blaster. Right, the moth is not
doing the damage. It's the larvathat's in the yard that's doing the damage.
But obviously you're not going to digaround and find the little worm down
there. So yeah, once wesee the moss, and another thing that
you can do if you're concerned aboutit. And the moths are active in
the yard usually earlier in the morningand then later in the evenings, and
(31:07):
they actually go into the shrubbery duringthe day because it's cooler for them there.
So if if you're out in themiddle of the day, maybe go
brush up against any shrubs in youryard and see if it's a little small
brown moth is what we're looking for. But yeah, it's very active bug
blaster, either in a granular ora liquid form. I do have people,
and I kind of understand it.I'm not gonna belittle them for doing
(31:30):
it, but they get so madat them that they'll get the liquid bug
blaster and they'll spread in the shrubberyduring the day just to kill, just
to kill the moths. So ifyou want a little vindictiveness it to you,
you can definitely do that. Butwe do need to get the chemical
out in the yard to kill thelarva. And plenty of water and plenty
of water. Thanks many thanks,see shortly. Don't you think this show
(31:56):
has gone much better with Chris here? Yes, it definitely has. Thank
you. You're welcome. I don'tfeel that, but thank you. You've
done great. Are you insinuating thatwhen other people are here it doesn't go
as well? We're talking sane?Oh well, he was here today though,
So the show was good, wellexcept for that segment and it dropped
off. Oh at that point.Really wow, he's feeling in very well.
(32:20):
Well. Congratulations, I know itconfused you, bich, but someone
has used a talk back mike onour free iHeartRadio app to leave a message
for us, well for one ofus. Would you would you like to
guess who it is? I betit No, I don't want to spoil
the surprise. Well, here wego. This is a message left on
the talk back mike on our iHeartRadioapp. Hi. I would just like
(32:42):
to say that I'm counting down thedays for Anna Claire's birthday. This is
for you, Anna Claire, bythe way, so happy early birthday.
And also, y'all are doing veryvery great today. Good job. See
even the listeners think it's been agood show. Well, thank you.
And we have a caller. Youngpeople are the only people that are gonna
know it's pressing a button. Howare going to be? That's pretty hard.
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That's good point. I can pushpeople's buttons. Why don't we go
to the call? Okay, goodmorning, Wayne, Welcome to w j
B. Slane and guarde Jo.How may we help you today. I've
I've had a couple of live oaksthat the neighbors moss and blown over in
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the past hurricane to my live oaks, and I've noticed it's starting to kill
the small limbs in there. I'vewondering if what can I do about it?
There anything I can do about it? Unfortunately, nothing you can really
do on especially a large live oak. We do sell a copper spray that
will definitely slow when the spores getblown over there. As you said,
(33:52):
it will keep them from sprouting.So my only any of the moss or
galls or ball moss is a termfor it, but it's not the one
that's killing everything. Once it's ontheir physical removals the only way you can
really do anything about it. Butyeah, if you'll periodically spray the stems
(34:14):
with a copper spray, it willdefinitely slow that down. Now, if
you're talking about actually Spanish moss,that is not killing your tree, that
is actually just using your tree forsupport. But yeah, that little i'm
gonna call it moss, it kindof balls around the stem that can be
detrimental. So yeah, copper sprayis going to be your best bet.
(34:35):
Oh, that's a lot of copperspraying, a lot of work. I
know where you get it at clegs. Yeah, and that's you know,
that is an issue. You know, when you start getting into these large
live oaks. Is it really economicallyand physically able to do it? And
tree? It's not going to killthe tree, but you're just gonna periodic
because normally all it does is knocksout some of the smaller branches, which
(34:57):
actually helps you with any of youryou know, the canopy of your tree,
so it's not it's unsightly. Andyes, it does kill off a
few smaller branches, but it's notgonna be something that's gone ultimately kill your
tree. All right, well,I appreciate the feedback. All right,
thank you, Wayne, And thatdoes open up phone lines at four ninety
nine nine five two six, Yes, four ninety nine w JBO and I
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have another question. You seem toalways have questions. Is that a good
That's a great thing. Okay,good. It was not a complaint for
once with all the watering. Shouldwe be concerned about the soil pH changes
or nutrient deficient deficiencies? Yes,very definitely. That's one of the things
that actually several years ago when wehad one of these severe drafts like this,
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mister Johnny Naylor, his vegetable gardenis his life, and I mean
that's why he is the vegetable expertin Baton rouge. We now carried Johnny
Naylor seeds at Clegg's because he hasgrown these things in his garden. He
actually monitored the pH change that summerbecause he was having to water Baton Ridge
(36:08):
water is excellent. I'm not criticizingBaton Ridge water at any stretched. Imagination
has a higher pH though, Andhe actually changed his soil pH one full
point just over the summer, justover the summer. So yes, it
can affect especially container plants. Youcan you can see that nutrient deficiencies as
(36:29):
you water, you're watering the nitrogenout of that. I won't do my
cowboy thing. Don't worry out.Have you ever heard my cowboy thing?
I don't think so okay, nitrogen, Yeah, I have to now nitrogen.
I picture it as a little cowboywith his little hat on, and
he's sitting there in your soil,hiding behind this little piece of dirt,
(36:52):
and here comes the water molecule downfrom the sky or your hose, and
he's sitting there, and as soonas the water molecule gets right next to
him, he jumped on it's backand he goes. He rides all the
way down through the pot. You'llyou'll never get that visualization out of your
mind now. But yeah, so, yes, we are, especially in
container plants, leaching nutrients out,so we do definitely need to Uh,
(37:15):
let's go to John, we'll finishus up with this question. Good morning,
John, Welcome to wjbo's Lawn andGarden Show. How many we help
you today? Yes, we havebeen watering our pot plants almost every day
because of the drought, and wehave large pot plants as well as smaller
(37:37):
ones. And what we have donein with with these that is, we
have some concerns that the fertilizer,you know, the fertilizer, we keep
watering them every day, the fertilizerkind of goes away after a while.
Is it is it a bad timeto fertilize now or what? Yeah,
(37:57):
Like, like I just did mylittle cowboy thing that that is one of
the most important things we do,especially in container plants, is we definitely
want to keep nutrients there because youknow, the nitrogen is being washed out
every time we water. What wouldyou suggest they use, Chris, a
good granular slow release like ozma coator or a betting plant food or the
(38:20):
grow. Yeah, that would havebeen. That's my recommendation. It's a
little bit quicker releasing, so wewill use it more often than we would
normally in a container plant, maybeonce a month. Right now. The
ozma coat that Chris suggested is alittle bit slower, so if you would
want to use that, you wouldhave a little bit more longevity with it
(38:43):
in the pot. But right now, as much as we're having the water
and we're watering our pot plants daily, you definitely want to keep that nitrogen
there. So my suggestion would besomething not a quick release like a triple
eight or something like that, butsomething mid range like a grower special.
So but yeah, John, veryimportant. Yeah, that was something That's
(39:05):
what I was gonna do. Allright. Oh, okay, thanks for
your help, thank you. What'syour favorite fall plant, Chris Pansy,
Pansy, that's a good, goodanswer. I like that all the different
colors, the little faces, purpleand gull, purple and gull, not
marooning whatever color that is, okay, Florida State. Oh well, my
(39:27):
high school was maroon and white.No, it's maroon in gold or something.
Two really bad colors. I likeCroton's not croutons or not crotons,
crotons, I can't even say itnow. I like the croton because it's
the fall colors. Yes, youknow, it gives you the oranges,
the reds, the I don't wantto say brown, but it was yellow.
Yeah, those colors something you canput by your doorway. I'm sorry,
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it's going to die in the cold. It's gonna cost you seventeen ninety
nine, nineteen ninety nine. It'stwo basically two cup. It's a coffee
from Starbucks and you got it allfalls. So anyway, hey, Chris,
thank you so much. Thank youfor having me. It was a
lot of fun. Thank you,Anna Claire excellent as always. We are
the independent Garden Centers of Baton Rouge. Well, we are the independent garden
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