August 26, 2023 • 44 mins
Local experts Butch and Bradon from Clegg's Nursery along with the intern Anna-Claire are your hosts for this week's WJBO Lawn & Garden Show! As the heatwave continues, Butch once again talks about how to water smartly to make sure you're doing what your lawns and garden need and NOT waste water!
PLUS: Is citrus available now? Is it too early or too late to plant fall vegetables, and what would be the best option if you want to plant now? Also, we're getting in fall decorations, fall transistion plants, and what might be causing unexpected divots in your lawn!
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PLUS: Is citrus available now? Is it too early or too late to plant fall vegetables, and what would be the best option if you want to plant now? Also, we're getting in fall decorations, fall transistion plants, and what might be causing unexpected divots in your lawn!
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Good morning, and welcome to wJ. Bos On and Garden Shop.
Today. I'm here with Brandon andButch from Clegg's Nursery. Braden, Oh
my gosh, I'm so sorry.It's okay, good morning, good morning.
Apparently I'm the only one that doesn'tdeserve a light. Oh wasn't it
working just a second ago? No? I don't think so. Yeah,
mind's on? Yeah I know that'swhat I'm saying. Hers is on,
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yours is on. I'm a dimbulb. Does that mean nobody can hear
you today? Hopefully? What's up? Not much? It's been a while
since we've been together, Yeah,it has. Do we remember how to
do this? Wait? Better questionis do we ever know how to do
this? No? If somebody wantedto call in, how could they do
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it? They could call us upfour nine nine nine five two six That
is four nine nine w J boI would say, used the phone?
Oh yeah, it's gonna be oneof those days. An anyway, do
you have some questions as you normallydo? Yes? I do? So
why did you put your phone upif you knew the questions were on your
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phone? Because I didn't want tohave it out? And then I remember
that they were okay, all right, So what's the questions? You know
what? We ought to get startedon what? Because we have not I
don't believe y'all have touched on Iknow I've been off for several weeks.
But people may have concerns about watering. Do you think I don't know what?
It's definitely not hot or anything outside. There's and in fact, one
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of the things I want to discussis that they have the mayor and Baton
Ridge Water have started to show concernsabout water pressure and things like that.
There's ways, and I understand thosepressures, and don't water in the morning
when everybody's trying to shower and getready for work and go, you know,
all that busy time, and samething in the evening, you know,
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say that seven o'clock to nine o'clockrange. We're you know, we're
putting kids in the bathtubs and gettingready for bed. But if we water
properly, I don't think it's goingto be as big of an issue for
your grass and Brandon, please feelfree to jump in here at any point
on your lawns. What we're tryingto do is we're trying to put out
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about two inches of rain a week. Okay, if you go out and
put your sprinkler out there for fifteenminutes, I'm going to say, and
if you disagree, you've wasted yourtime and you've wasted your water. And
that's what we need to understand.Set your sprinkler, and I'm talking more
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in your lawn right now. Notso much as shrubbery. We'll probably get
to that in a few minutes,but in your lawn, run that sprinkler
for an hour. Typically baton reachwater with most sprinklers will give you about
an inch of rain air quotes inan hour. Do that twice a week,
and your grass will be fine,even as hot as it is.
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You know, if you've got trees, you know, maybe up at a
little bit, but for the mostpart, that's going to keep your grass
alive. And that's what we're tryingto do right now. We're not trying
to have the lush green what's atwhere they play the masters at that golf
course. We don't we don't wantto look like that right now. We
just it's life support exactly. Yeah, you know, we were on you
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know, they keep shocking the grasstrying to get it to go. So
we if again, if we watersmartly, we don't, there won't be
as much of a concern with thewater pressure and things like that. One
of the things Brandon and I aretalking about, and it was really interesting,
is watering from say one o'clock inthe afternoon to five o'clock in the
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afternoon. If you're using a heavysprinkler, you know, like a oscillating
sprinkler or an impulse type sprinkler,that's okay. But a lot of the
more systems that I'm gonna use theword missed if you agree with that,
you're gonna lose a lot more ofthat water to evaporation. I mean it's
hot, yeah, I mean it'sjust and so you're you know again,
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that's inefficient watering. Let's not youknow, heck, maybe if everybody ran
there sprinklers and we've got enough evaporation, we could get a rain cloud going
out of it. But you know, again, what's water smartly. Let's
not do it during the heat ofthe day when we're gonna lose a lot
of it to evaporative loss. Let'slet's water water thoroughly. Let's you know,
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let's not go out there and puta hose, put our finger on
the end of a hose and start, you know, blowing water. Right,
it's us. If you have beddingplants, if you have a new
planet shrub bed, I'm sorry,right, but yeah, those we will
need to water probably daily. Wesell a micro irrigation system at Cleggs that
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is very, very efficient. Youput the water out close to the ground
so you're not going to have alot of evaporative out of it, and
it gives you a good thorough soaking, which is what we need to do.
So often people, how often Bradenpeople come in the store and one
of the first questions out of ourmouth when they have a dead plant is
how long have you run yourrigation systemfor? Right now, it's almost every
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customer that comes out, right,but how long are they running their system
for? But they're saying like,yeah, three minutes or even ten minutes,
which really that's it's not doing anything. Again, You're wasting water because
you're not getting any any depth withthat moisture. In fact, what you're
doing is you're causing issues for yourplants because your water and maybe what half
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inch deep. When you do that, the roots systems are having to come
up to get that moisture, soyou're creating a more drought intolerant plant.
Run your microsystem for minimum of thirtyminutes, and again that's good use of
water. You can do that,say four am to six am, before
the pressure from morning showers and allthat get going. That also keeps that
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plant good and hydrated for the day. It can absorb the water so when
it gets into this stressful time midafternoon, it is as hydrated as it's
going to be. So again,smart watering. We can alleviate a lot
of the pressure on the Baton Ridgewater system by just doing it properly.
Right. The other thing that andI totally and completely have lost my train
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of thought. Here was not unusualfor me, But I have no idea
where I was going. I'll justhave to get back to it later,
all right. I have another question, what's that? Should we be watering
plants and furs or how should be? How should we be watering plants and
fertilizing, especially when they're in containersand stuff? So it containers right now,
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you you really just want to waterevery day, and the more you
water, the more you're washing outfertilizer. So you may have to fertilize
a little more, and I definitelyagree with that. We have an im
WI simplify this to some extent,But the big three infertilizer. You have
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your nitrogen, your phosphorus, andyour potassium. The three numbers that you
see on the front of all thebags, phosphorus, and potassium. The
second two numbers, they're kind oflike rocks. They wherever you put them
in the soil, that's kind ofwhere they're going to scent. They're not
going to move around minimally within thesoil, so typically we want to do
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most of those as an incorporation intothe soil. Nitrogen the first one,
which is probably the most important ofthe three, it's kind of like a
little yeah, I liken it toa cowboy, and it kind of sits
there on the surface and it kindof has its little cowboy hat on,
and it's kind of hiding behind thedirt molecule. And when the water molecule,
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when you water kind of hits thedirt and he looks at and all
of a sudden, he jumps onthe back of the water moleculing goes to
all the way through the dirt.So that's how nitrogen gets moved through.
So if we're watering every day,you've got little cowboys coming out with the
water all over your patio, sowe have to put more little cowboys in
there. So it's important. Twelvesix six are Grower Special is an excellent
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product. A lot of your slowerrelease which is a slow release product,
but your osma coats, some ofthose type products right now probably aren't releasing
quick enough to really kind of keepup with nitrogen needs dealing more. Not
so if you've got some houseplants outthere or Japanese maples, it's probably not
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as an important thing as if you'retrying to do and I think something Brandon
you and I are talking about beforethe show. If you're trying to start
some of your fall vegetables in pots, if you're trying to do some tomatoes
in pots, even some of yourannuals that are your heavy feeders, that's
what we're talking about. Is yourdefinitely going to have to supplement, especially
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the nitrogen part of your fertilizers rightnow with as much watering as you're doing.
Did that answer your question or didyou really care? I really enjoyed
your analogy by the way, Ijust want to say that, thank you.
It was very energetic. Yeah,now you'll never get that visual out
of No, I'm still trying topicture a cowboy riding a water droplet.
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You like always say that, butit never gets old, you know.
Do we have a caller? Wedo have a caller. Good morning,
though, Welcome to w J.Bos On and Garden Show. How may
we help you today? Hi,I was wondering how I should or where
I should put my secument because Iput it right now. It's in front
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of a window, but it's notgetting It's very like dry, so I
don't know if it needs to belike in a better placement or outside.
Ideally, the plant would probably preferto be outside. If you have a
south facing or away west facing window, that probably would be good for your
succulent. Succulents want to be onthe dry side. But remember they do
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need some water from time to timetoo, so it may just be that
you want a water a little bitmore often than you are. But again,
if you have a south facing ora west facing window, that probably
would be fine, or you couldput it out on your patio. Just
if you put it outside, don'tforget to water. Usually think things like
succulents. They'll kind of let youknow when they're not getting enough light because
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they start to get stringy and leggy, though they just don't grow the same
as they would if they were gettingenough light. There you go, thank
you, all right, thank youfor the call bill. What does that
do? That opens up phone linesat four nine nine two six as four
nine nine w JVL. Well cool. You know. The other thing when
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we were talking about about watering,one of the biggest concerns that it really
hasn't been brought up is and thisis not a knock Baton Rouge. If
you've been outside of the Baton Rougearea, you realize what fabulous water we
actually have. One of the negativesto our water, and it's really not
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a negative for us, is thatour pH is rather high. I've been
told it's around eight point two.It could be off. I could be
off that number a little bit oneway or the other. But the issue
with us having to water as muchas we are watering is we can actually
affect our soul pH. But likebringing it up, bringing exactly bringing it
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up where that is going to becomeproblematic in the future is blueberry beds.
Blueberries like low pH can actually affectour garden pH. We can definitely have
a situation where we raise the pHand our vegetable gardens. If you have
massive azalea plantings, this can bean issue in the future. One of
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the things that once we do getback into some type of a rain situation
where we get soil moisture again,it would be important, I think to
take us soil sample, send itout, tell us you let's find out
did we I don't want to saymess up, but did we affect the
pH in our soils by all ofthis watering, especially if you have blueberries,
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especially even citrus. I would doit around citrus your vegetable garden,
if you have large azalu beds,we will probably be needing to lower our
pH. Nothing to do right now. Please do not come well, please
come into the store, but pleasedon't come in and say, well,
I think I need to adjust mysoil pH. We're using sulfur products to
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adjust our pH down, and withthe heat we're at right now, we
really do not want to do that. Over application of some of the sulfur
products and actually create a very acidicsituation which we can actually do more damage
than good because the heat creates thereact, the chemical reaction to go quicker.
So we do want to be verycareful doing any pH adjustment right now.
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But something to think about. Writeit down in your gardening books to
get in the back of your mind. It is something that we will be
concerned about. I have a question, Okay, what's good a citrus available
right now? Or Yeah? Soactually last week at I believe at all
the locations, we got in ata new shipment of citrus and we actually
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received some satsuma trees, which Ibelieve it was like three or four different
varieties, which we haven't seen satsumain a while, so I know a
lot of people will be excited aboutthat. But yeah, we got a
lot of really nice citrus trees.And did you get a chance to go
look at any of them? Butyes, yes, actually I did.
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And you know, one of thecoolest things that I was and I'm glad
y'all brought this up. We havedwarf citrus again, Yeah, that's true.
Do you have satsuma the blood orange? No, not a satsuma lemon
blood orange in the lime? Ibelieve that's correct. I remember seeing the
blood orange for sure. Yeah,yeah, that was because I almost bought
one, but my wife told meno, so and you've explained this to
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me before, but I thought itwas really interesting. I think it's worth
talking about on the show. Whatmakes a citrus tree a dwarf the root
stock, and that's because it's scraftedon to set a different kind of root
stock than a normal citrus tree wouldbe. I think, oh, man,
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you're stretching my memory now. Ithink it's called flying dragon. Is
the root stock that dwarfs the citrusor trifoliate, I believe is the one
they use for regular citrus. ButI'm again, I'm testing a memory and
I'm old and see now, soI'm incorrect on that. I do apologize,
but no, it's kind of cool. And it's one of the things
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that I haven't been a huge proponentone way or the other on actually purchasing
dwarf because most of the time,especially if you're doing a lime even sometimes
lemons, or if you're just doingcitrus in a container, you're going to
dwarf the plant by the container anyway. Yeah, fortunately, and one of
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the reasons why I in the past, I really haven't pushed it that much.
Is typically dwarf citrus was I'm Gontasaying much more expensive than your regular
citrus trees. However, that isnot the case anymore. The dwarfer what
is it, fifty four ninety nine, just like the regular citrus are,
so you're not having to pay apremium. So if you are, you
know, especially with the orange,if you're doing something in the ground and
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need a smaller plant, the dwarfwould probably be the way to go.
Well, it would be the wayto go, probably, but but no,
it was kind of neat. Wefinally do have we have the brown
selects at zuma Owari, Arctic frostsand Miho. Yes, let's get me
go man. So we do havethe four varieties in stock. Now.
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It's been godly I can't remember thelast time we had some zumas in stock.
If you get them right now,I would strongly urge probably leaving them
in a container, maybe even puttingthem somewhere on your patio where you can
get a little bit of afternoon shadeon them. We actually have a shade
structure at Seagan Lane that we've kindof put them on the east side of
it, so we get a littlebit of shade in the afternoon on them,
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just to try and help them out. Water daily, yep, please
water daily again, you know,fortune And I'm sorry I do keep going
back to watering, but that isprobably the biggest issue we have coming in
the store every day. Do not, please, do not be fooled by
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an afternoon thundershower. Yeah, anyrain that we've gotten lately, and it's
not been enough to mount anything.And one of the things, and this
is where I was trying to goearlier, and there it goes again.
No, I did refine. Rememberif you have an afternoon thundershower, when
it gets done, go check thecurb at the front of your yard.
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Most of the water, unfortunately,it is going to be in that curb
going into the storms because our groundis so dry that if we catch a
hard rain, it's just gonna flowright off. I mean, you're gonna
get a minimal amount of penetration,but most of it's gonna end up in
the gutter in the front of youryard going into the storm drain going into
the ditch. We need a twentyfour hours slow rain would be perfect.
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What we need. We'd have toallow it to soak down in, not
to just splash and go. Youknow that's the people with the finger on
the end of the hose. Allyou're doing is you're splashing and going.
It water hits the ground and itdissipates, it goes away, you know,
it goes out into the curb inthe front. It doesn't soak in.
So again, Oh, it rainedat my house the other day.
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Well, lucky for you. Iwish it would rain at my house,
but it really didn't do you justa whole lot of good other than create
more steam. And you know thatkind of goes back to you saying not
to plant the citrus right now becauseof the fact that everything's so dry,
you're gonna have a hard time justdigging. No truer words spoken. I
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had a very very nice lady theother day homeowners association was I'm not gonna
say being unreasonable. I understand somewhat they're doing, but they wanted her
to plant a thirty gallon tree.And I'm telling her. I gave her
my business card. I said,look, have them call me. I
said, you know you can purchasethe tree. Well, you know,
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we can hold it for a shortperiod of time, and we're getting we're
not getting as much material in rightnow because it's just everything is so stressful.
You know, at this point,let's wait to the fall. Let's
at least let it cool down alittle bit. You're gonna have a better
success much better success rate planting.The other thing is, you can't dig
a hole for a thirty gallon treeright now. I mean you're gonna have
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you know, they're gonna be outthere drilling, putting dynamite just to get
hold doug and when it's this dry, it's so difficult to get that area
around their saturated. And she evensaid, well, she said, my
neighbor has a brown magnolia. Well, you know what if you plan a
magnolia right now, thirty gallons,you know, thirty gallons magnoia tree's two
hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah,that's a lot of money. And you
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know, I just don't understand thatsome of these people had a customer in
the other day got mad at mewant of blueberries. I mean, blueberries
is zealous. They're a very veryfine, fibrous roots system. They're probably
the absolute worst thing to try toplant right now because either of those plants.
If they get dry the very first, the first time they're to you
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really can't rehydrate them the way youcan some other type plants. So you
know, I'm in the business ofselling. I want to sell plants.
Right now, I'd rather sell youa watering system because you're not going to
be successful. How many people havewe have bought plants a week ald go
in there bringing them back dead.Yeah, and I'm sorry. It's nothing
we can do for you at thispoint. It is lack of water.
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I mean, you know, Ilove the ones that you can tell they
soaked it right before they you know, they yanked out of the ground and
soaked it because the water's dripping outof it. No, we know what
you've done. It's just a matterof and yes, maybe your landscaper told
you to run your microsystem for fiveor ten minutes, it's not how you
how you do it. I putright now in the shrub beds, my
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wife's shrub beds. We have sprinklers. I do not I an hour every
point every place, it's an hour. I just set it up an hour,
then I move it an hour.I move it an hour. So
it's just it's it's people don't understandthe amount of water in the time period,
the time it needed to get deep. Soakings right, the best you
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can do as a trowel. Takea little trowel out there. After you've
run your irrigation or your sprinkler,dig down a little bit. See how
far that water has gone down.If it's only gone down an inch,
run that sprinkler longer. Right,that makes sense, Thank you. Doesn't
make dollars, though, I guesswe'll find out. Okay. Anyway,
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what else are questions do you haveso I can get off my watering soapbox?
Is it too early or late toplay at fall vegetables? WHOA,
that's a loaded question. Yeah,it is time, but it is not
time. I know. That's whatweird. If you want to do fall
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tomate as fall peppers, you reallyhave to get them in the ground right
now and buy the ground I'm goingto break, and please help me here,
I'm monst suggest to them in containersright now. I'd agree. That
way. You can have them ina little more shade, a little bit
of hotter party, a little bitof afternoon shade. You can get some
size to them, watering them everyday fertilization, like we talked about,
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because we're leaching the little cowboys out. And for those of the people that
weren't listening earlier, going why ishe leaching out cowboys? But but yeah,
let's you know, now, thebroccoli, the cabbage, to califlower,
lettuces, those type stuff. It'sjust too hot, those type crops,
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the cold crops, the lettuces,those type things. If it's too
warm, they'll do what's called bolting, which is actually the plant will go
to flour. Once it's done thatthe plant is useless to us. So
as juvenile plants, it takes longerto do it. If you look,
I have to plant broccoli on Augusttwenty six. Come in the store,
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get your broccoli plants, take himhome. Put them in one gallon containers
like Braden just said. Put themin a little bit of shade in the
afternoon. They're gonna be much betteroff. Keep them fertilized. Yeah,
Fall vegetables between you know, Fallis typically a dry period for us unless
we have hurricanes running through And Idon't want to go from where we are
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to dry. How does that happen? Yeah, I mean, I don't
know how we can get much dryer. So I am in a clothe intern.
Who is this? That's Braden verygood and your butch from Glegs Nursery,
from where Cleg's Nursery. Where's ClegsNursery on Seagan? And then there's
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two other places, three other threeokay, well you know you know it's
Scott Rica, our famous leader.If he was here, you know what
he would do. As soon asthe show was over, he would jump
in his car. He would godown ten, get off at the Seagan
Lane accent would go. I guessthat would be east on Segan Lane.
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He would pull into the Median wheresomeone would have a cup of coffee waiting
for him. He would wave tothe nursery on Segan Lane, go continue
forward on Sherwood Forest Boulevard, gettingon I twelve, where he would get
off at Range Road and he wouldhead exactly five miles north to where our
Denham Springs store is. That's whatit was. I knew one of them
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again. By then, he wouldhave finished the coffee that the people at
Segan Lane had, so he wouldhave someone in the Median that would give
him another cup of coffee. Hewould wave to our Denham Store. Then
he would go to Magnolia Bridge Road, where he would take a left.
He would jet over to Greenwell SpringsRoad. He would hop on Greenwell Springs
Road, headed towards Baton Rouge untilhe got just past Sherwood Forest Boulevard.
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Then he would wheel into our GreenwellSprings location, jump out of his vehicle
real quick after he put it inpark, running, go to the restroom,
back in his car, go fromthere to our Donmore location where he
would just drive by waves say havea good day. Then he would hit
home. That's all loaded day.That's a lot to do, is that?
How long is that car? Rider? Well? He well, And
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that's a concern because I can't tellanymore because we actually had a customer.
I used to do that when Scottand I did the show all the time.
I would always do that, andI always say he would be at
home by like nine fifty eight,And the customer figured out the distance and
the stops and traffic lights and figuredhe had to be going one hundred and
three miles an hour to do that. So in that time I would not
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want to be the passenger. Andno, I don't know anyway, So
no, that is clegs four locations, all conveniently spread around town. Really
enjoy the one on Donmore, midCity. Our mid City branch. Done
some renovations there hell over year.I guess it might even been two years
ago now. And really, ifyou haven't been in that store for a
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while, Rita and my will doa fabulous job. That's one of my
favorite stores. Yeah, it's it'skind of to some extent, reminds me
of Nailers where I came from.It's a little bit more of a boutique,
you know, kind of year nique. We're unfortunately, since especially since
Braden's been there, Seagan Lane's basicallybecome a supermarket. So he's just pushing,
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pushing, pushing on us. Itseems like that's all we can do,
is yeah, but now all fourlocations are here to serve you.
Great staff at all four locations.I do bring the Seagan Lane store down
a little bit, but hey,there's good people there. We were talking
about fall vegetable gardening. Uh again, if you want to get involved four
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nine nine nine five two six it'sfour nine nine w j bo I just
really a lot of your seeds.We are so dry, so hot,
You're just not going to get germination. If you try to put out seeds
right now, it's gonna be verydifficult. Uh. If you really just
have to do plants, you're andhave to really maintain a good moisture in
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the garden. Putting a little small, sell packed vegetables out right now,
you probably are going to water acouple of times a day. I mean,
think about the poor our poor beddingplant people. We we water our
greenhouse twice a day. They basicallythey start watering when they get there at
eight o'clock in the morning and they'vepretty much finished their second round of watering
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about five o'clock when we leave.So you know, you're gonna have to
get that moisture out there. Ifit's worth it to you to put that
much effort into it, come on, come get your plants. But I
just I don't know when it's gonnabreak, and I don't know when we're
gonna be able to do this,but I'm telling people to hold off for
sure. But you know that bringsup another point. You know, what
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is it a week from today wehave our first football game yea, and
people have football parties, and whatdo they want to do for football parties,
is they want to decorate their yard. You know, some options for
them to to do that right nowwill probably stay in containers. You would
think, I would think, soyou you could do your crotons, you
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could do your This is really theplants that we use for transitioning to fall.
It's it's really my favorite, someof my favorite plants, like the
crotons and the Moms marigolds. Yeah, miracle marigolds. Is I always like
to Oh, I think we havea caller. Well, let's see what
we do. I don't know,don't panic, try my best. Okay,
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good morning, Philip, Welcome tow J Boslan and Garden Joe.
How may we help you today?Good morning Anna Claire. You were just
becoming such a radio personality. Ijust really enjoyed Clee. She's already asking
for a race. She's talking aboutholding out. I don't rightfully show rightfully
show Look, I just wanted totell you that was a wonderful tour of
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the cled nursery location. But youknow, for me, it all started
on don More yea and uh andthat's where that's where I met Scott.
So I'm sorry about I'm glad youput that plug in for don More because
it is still a very neat neatlegs to go to. Yeah. Actually,
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most people do not realize that iswhere I started. My wife was
actually working at the Donmore location whenwe got out of college and she went
to work full time for Marshall Cleggat that time, and I kind of
was without employment at the time,and Marshall asked me one day, says,
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do you want to come? I'vegot some projects that need to be
done. Since you're not doing anything, why don't you come work, you
know, for as long as youcan if you find something else, I
understand, and that's what started it. My wife and I worked there for
that spring. That summer was whenMarshall Clegg bought the property on Seagan Lane
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and he offered me the opportunity tomanage that property. In fact, I'd
kill all my employees right now.I was the first Clegg's employee to walk
onto Segan Lane. I brought achainsaw with me and I was the first
manager. Eric Gaspard and myself werethe first managers at the Segan Lane store
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when they did the road construction andconnected Sherwood Forest Boulevard and Seegan together really
just really destroyed the business there onSeegan. So I at that point took
the opportunity to leave went to workas most of y'all are more familiar with
with Naylor's hardware for a little overthirty years before the flood of twenty sixteen
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washed us away. And one ofthe reasons why I'm actually still around was
Tom Finnel. I owe him ahuge debt because he took all of us
in right after that flood. AndI always still remember and still real kind
of upset with Tom. He toldme, he says, I'm bringing you
back, and he says, I'mgoing to consider that you just had a
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thirty year vacation. And I askedhim if he would give me vacation pay
and he said no. Oh,So anyway, we appreciate that plug,
and thank you Philip. Yes,And I do want to tell you that,
you know, I really enjoyed thatbecause being a native Baton Rouge and
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and uh, you know, mywife and I are schell right in our
fortieth anniversary and we dated going toDon Moore and I grew up right by
by Naylor Brothers. Yeah, it'sjust good to hear that, and and
y'all are really, you know,CLIG just really an outstanding organization for the
city of bat Rouge. And soyou know, I'm not trying to give
y'all any big flug, but whaty'all do is very much appreciate. We
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thank you very much that that reallymeans a lot. So anyway, the
checks in the mail, Philip,y'all have a good morning. Thank you.
Yeah, and a lot of peoplethat's one of the Tom Fennel and
Scott Rica are co owners. Tomis the general manager of Clegg's Nursery and
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he doesn't get and doesn't want alot of credit for all of the civic
things that he is involved in inbaton Rouge. I'm not going to embarrassing
him by because I know he wouldbe, but it is some of the
stuff that behind the scenes that hesupports is very very interesting. But yeah,
family owned business been in business forjust over sixty years. Originally was
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the Clegg's family who sold out toMarsh. I'm sold out to Scott and
Tom. But great organization to workfor. Really enjoy my cohorts. They
don't necessarily reciprocate with me, butwell, We'll just say it depends on
the day. I still can't believeI'll put that snake in my garden.
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And I do want to for somepeople that have brought it up or whatever.
I do want to give a hugeshout out to the Baton Ridge general,
that whole organization. The team overthere was fantastic for those of you
who don't know. I was rushingaround my house so we could go Friday
and got bit by a cotton mouthand it wasn't fun. But I'm still
here to talk about it and havea great story. So what did we
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have coming into work that day?There was something big going to the hay
bales, That's what it was.Yeah, And I'd do anything to get
out on that way, folks.He was trying to get out of the
hay bales. And Tom now knows. Do not tell me when hay bales
are coming in because I'll go toextremes. Not ton of load those.
But it's one of the things thatis coming up. We are starting to
get into our fall decorating. Haybales are here, pumpkins, that type
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stuff. I thinks about a weekout, still one of the neat things
and I don't. I don't usuallylike to plug. But one of the
things that I last two years wehave sold out very very quickly on and
are really cool, is we AndI know people are gonna start yelling at
me. Philip's gonna call back andtake everything nice he just said back.
But we get our Christmas water globesin. Yeah, I've seen that,
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and they are on display and theyare I don't know why, just they
There's so many unique little scenes andthey look like little snow globes and it's
just really cool. I know Michael'sgot what thirty eight of them now,
if there's one, be surprised.But anyway, if you've if you've seen
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those in the past and want tosee our full selection, stop by any
of the locations. We do havethem up and on display, not ready
for and actually we have them onsale, so I come by the stores.
You have you seen him, AnnaClaire? I think I haven't seen
them like recently, but I knowButch has gotten me some before. Don't
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you have the Ballerine? I havethe Snowman and the what it's gonna It's
gonna come to me. You're tooyoung to be seen all anyway, I
think that's fine. You were talkingabout transition plants. Yeah, party plants
for LSU football, Go Tigers.Yeah, and there's a lot of options.
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Yes, you in the front row, you have, I remember it's
the Nativity scene. Oh okay,sorry, go ahead. What about what
about a phone number? Oh yeah, you can call us at four nine
nine nine five two six out isfour nine nine w j b M.
Then they call that if they wantto ask about snow globes, they can.
Okay, just all right, continue, Sorry, so a fault transition
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plant. Speaking of transition, sowe are actually starting to see a lot
of that come into the into thestore uh here recently. And a few
of those things would be like Croton'sand moms and that's your traditional ones.
One of my favorites the ornamental pepper. They're really cool. I just like
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how they all their little peppers canbe different colors on one point. Okay,
So yeah, I mean, andit is so a plant that we
do promote. I just don't knowwhy. I'm just not I mean,
I understand they got the you know, the red, the yellows, the
oranges and all and you know,but that's just not one of my Sorry,
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did you eat one of the pepper? No, I'm not stupid.
I do put my hand in asnake's mouth, but I don't eat those
peppers. No. But now youknow, one of the other things is
some of like the bubble gum,some of the supertunius. Yeah, a
great plant to put in right now. Again, we're in the we're in
the business of selling plants. Butunless you just really have to, it's
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not a great time to plant becausethe temperatures. But yeah, if you
have a party coming up for theFlorida State Game next weekend, you know,
we do have the crotons are excellentplanting put around the front door.
Do even have some lantanas. Yeah, we'll give you a pretty yellow color.
So we do have material for thoseparties. Just again, make sure
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you keep it well watered. SoI'm assuming that there's going to be a
really funny story that comes along withthis. But I was told I should
ask you if people have been playinggolf in your yard, But well,
it looks like it. I've gotdivits taken out of my yard all over
the place. And actually I havefound a couple of golf balls jokingly,
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but no, actually I have Ithink my neighbor's playing golf in is a
little while. What we're having issueswith and we are getting a lot of
questions at the store about that,is that's Armadilla's. Oh really they are.
What we're doing is you think aboutArmadilla's eat grubs and earthworms or they're
made food source. So they aredigging in the ground to get these well
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areas that have not been watered.As we talked about with the poor people
that have to plant thirty gallon Magnoiatrees. It's even for them with their
sharp claws, it's very difficult forthem to dig. So what they're doing
is they're migrating into areas where wehave been watering, where the ground is
soft or abe, because they candig better there and be because their food
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source is going to be more activethere as dry as the ground is a
lot of our grubs and earthworms oreither dormant or dead in dry areas where
they are much more active. Soit's concentrating eating into more concentrated areas.
I use the word concentrated twice therein one sentence. So I'm contract job,
thank you. So, yes,we are seeing a lot more damage
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in lawns were armadillas or digging holes. We have always had issues with squirrels
doing that. So if it's asmall little div it were, it could
be a squirrel, But most ofthat damage is caused by Armadilla's the biggest
issue. You know, they're starving, you know, I know, it's
making a mess out of the yards. And the other thing is they're very
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difficult to trap. They're very trapshy. I know there's some YouTube videos
on building traps that supposedly are moreeffective for them and relocating them to parks
or whatever, but again, untilwe start getting rained, we are going
to have that. It looks justlike somebody's taking golf divots out of your
yard, but that is armadillo oranimals things. We do sell a product,
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Armadillos Scram, which is extremely effectiveif they're getting into flower beds.
I would definitely urge people to usethe armadillo scram in flower bed areas to
prevent damage to the shrubs, Butto try and apply that over a yard
would be I would think cost prohibitive. But armadilla is a big issue creating
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divots in your yard. However,if you are out there playing golf that
could be your own divans. Butbut it seems like to me they would
go more for like garden beds becauseit'd be like softer. But they're going
where But they're going well, andthat's a yeah. And yes, I've
got an area where my wife planetssome impatients. They have just totally ransacked
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that flower bed right there. Butagain, they're they're going wherever they smell
their foods are. So if thefood is out in your yard where you've
been watering, fortunately to keep yourgrass alive, they're gonna dig a little
hole and dig up that grub orthat worm that's there. So and yes,
there is. And that's why Isay, if you hear having issues
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or problems in your flower beds.The only product I've ever found that works
as far as repellent is the Armadillasscram It's specific. It's one of the
things that people don't understand about repellents. You've got these companies that, in
fact, one of the biggest onescalled repels all because it's not specific enough.
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If you're you know, if youhave a dog, get something specific
for a dog, cat, getsomething specific for a cat. The Armadilla
gets something specific for the armadilla.Try to I think you need some snake
scram We do sell that. Butyou know what, it doesn't work on
water moccasins. It's great for rattlesnakes and coral snakes and copper heads,
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but it doesn't work on moccasins.And it's unfortunate. It is very unfortunate.
You know. I've never seen thatbugger. You never found it.
I never have found it, neversaw it when it bit me, never
saw it before or after that,and have not seen it since. Some
people think it may have died ofalcohol poisoning. It's possible, I guess.
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Anyway, we have a couple moreminutes left in the show. Somebody
wants to give us a call fortwo six, We can go to that
real quick. We are one ofthe biggest concerns I have, and there's
not a whole lot we can doabout this. Again, going back to
watering, is trees, mature trees. Yeah. Driving around Baton Rouge,
I'm starting to see, especially someof the water oaks that are around here
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are are not going to make it. And if we do get a hurricane.
One of the big negatives to thismuch drought that people don't really,
and some people are realizing it becausethey are getting large limbs falling out of
these trees. Our trees are extremelybrittle. Though drier they are, the
more brittle they're going to become.So if we do catch a hurricane or
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any type of high wind storms rightnow, we are going to have a
tremendous amount of damage watering a maturetree like that. Truth of the matter
is, you just take a soakerhose out there and turn it on for
two days. That's the only wayyou're going to really truly get any hydration
into large mature trees. If you'rein an area where you feel that's necessary,
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I definitely would with the effort inbecause again, these trees are I
had a huge limb fall out ofone of my trees a couple days ago,
just it was it just broke off, and it wasn't that big of
a windstorm. So if we dohave sometimes I think maybe maybe we do
want a hurricane, but there's gonnabe a lot of damage if we do.
Yeah, is that the music?It's gonna be a lot of way
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up. Yes, yes, itis. Well, definitely appreciate you being
here, Anna Claire you make theshow go much better than I would have
ever done it. Braden, thankyou for your effort, and thank y'all.
Come by seeing Lane and see allthat Braden has done. He has
really taken a mess and made itinto actually a very shoppable experience. So
we do appreciate you very much.I'll try. Do you think we're gonna
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be back here next week? Ordo you think they're gonna keep us off
the air. She's already quit onme. We are the Independent Garden Centers
at Baton Ridge. We're here everySaturday morning from eight o'clock to nine o'clock
to entertain you and learn a lotmore from y'all than y'all will ever learn
from us. We will see younext week. Come this stores were opened
from eight to five five h
Good morning, and welcome to wJ. Bos On and Garden Shop.
Today. I'm here with Brandon andButch from Clegg's Nursery. Braden, Oh
my gosh, I'm so sorry.It's okay, good morning, good morning.
Apparently I'm the only one that doesn'tdeserve a light. Oh wasn't it
working just a second ago? No? I don't think so. Yeah,
mind's on? Yeah I know that'swhat I'm saying. Hers is on,
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yours is on. I'm a dimbulb. Does that mean nobody can hear
you today? Hopefully? What's up? Not much? It's been a while
since we've been together, Yeah,it has. Do we remember how to
do this? Wait? Better questionis do we ever know how to do
this? No? If somebody wantedto call in, how could they do
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it? They could call us upfour nine nine nine five two six That
is four nine nine w J boI would say, used the phone?
Oh yeah, it's gonna be oneof those days. An anyway, do
you have some questions as you normallydo? Yes? I do? So
why did you put your phone upif you knew the questions were on your
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phone? Because I didn't want tohave it out? And then I remember
that they were okay, all right, So what's the questions? You know
what? We ought to get startedon what? Because we have not I
don't believe y'all have touched on Iknow I've been off for several weeks.
But people may have concerns about watering. Do you think I don't know what?
It's definitely not hot or anything outside. There's and in fact, one
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of the things I want to discussis that they have the mayor and Baton
Ridge Water have started to show concernsabout water pressure and things like that.
There's ways, and I understand thosepressures, and don't water in the morning
when everybody's trying to shower and getready for work and go, you know,
all that busy time, and samething in the evening, you know,
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say that seven o'clock to nine o'clockrange. We're you know, we're
putting kids in the bathtubs and gettingready for bed. But if we water
properly, I don't think it's goingto be as big of an issue for
your grass and Brandon, please feelfree to jump in here at any point
on your lawns. What we're tryingto do is we're trying to put out
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about two inches of rain a week. Okay, if you go out and
put your sprinkler out there for fifteenminutes, I'm going to say, and
if you disagree, you've wasted yourtime and you've wasted your water. And
that's what we need to understand.Set your sprinkler, and I'm talking more
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in your lawn right now. Notso much as shrubbery. We'll probably get
to that in a few minutes,but in your lawn, run that sprinkler
for an hour. Typically baton reachwater with most sprinklers will give you about
an inch of rain air quotes inan hour. Do that twice a week,
and your grass will be fine,even as hot as it is.
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You know, if you've got trees, you know, maybe up at a
little bit, but for the mostpart, that's going to keep your grass
alive. And that's what we're tryingto do right now. We're not trying
to have the lush green what's atwhere they play the masters at that golf
course. We don't we don't wantto look like that right now. We
just it's life support exactly. Yeah, you know, we were on you
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know, they keep shocking the grasstrying to get it to go. So
we if again, if we watersmartly, we don't, there won't be
as much of a concern with thewater pressure and things like that. One
of the things Brandon and I aretalking about, and it was really interesting,
is watering from say one o'clock inthe afternoon to five o'clock in the
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afternoon. If you're using a heavysprinkler, you know, like a oscillating
sprinkler or an impulse type sprinkler,that's okay. But a lot of the
more systems that I'm gonna use theword missed if you agree with that,
you're gonna lose a lot more ofthat water to evaporation. I mean it's
hot, yeah, I mean it'sjust and so you're you know again,
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that's inefficient watering. Let's not youknow, heck, maybe if everybody ran
there sprinklers and we've got enough evaporation, we could get a rain cloud going
out of it. But you know, again, what's water smartly. Let's
not do it during the heat ofthe day when we're gonna lose a lot
of it to evaporative loss. Let'slet's water water thoroughly. Let's you know,
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let's not go out there and puta hose, put our finger on
the end of a hose and start, you know, blowing water. Right,
it's us. If you have beddingplants, if you have a new
planet shrub bed, I'm sorry,right, but yeah, those we will
need to water probably daily. Wesell a micro irrigation system at Cleggs that
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is very, very efficient. Youput the water out close to the ground
so you're not going to have alot of evaporative out of it, and
it gives you a good thorough soaking, which is what we need to do.
So often people, how often Bradenpeople come in the store and one
of the first questions out of ourmouth when they have a dead plant is
how long have you run yourrigation systemfor? Right now, it's almost every
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customer that comes out, right,but how long are they running their system
for? But they're saying like,yeah, three minutes or even ten minutes,
which really that's it's not doing anything. Again, You're wasting water because
you're not getting any any depth withthat moisture. In fact, what you're
doing is you're causing issues for yourplants because your water and maybe what half
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inch deep. When you do that, the roots systems are having to come
up to get that moisture, soyou're creating a more drought intolerant plant.
Run your microsystem for minimum of thirtyminutes, and again that's good use of
water. You can do that,say four am to six am, before
the pressure from morning showers and allthat get going. That also keeps that
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plant good and hydrated for the day. It can absorb the water so when
it gets into this stressful time midafternoon, it is as hydrated as it's
going to be. So again,smart watering. We can alleviate a lot
of the pressure on the Baton Ridgewater system by just doing it properly.
Right. The other thing that andI totally and completely have lost my train
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of thought. Here was not unusualfor me, But I have no idea
where I was going. I'll justhave to get back to it later,
all right. I have another question, what's that? Should we be watering
plants and furs or how should be? How should we be watering plants and
fertilizing, especially when they're in containersand stuff? So it containers right now,
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you you really just want to waterevery day, and the more you
water, the more you're washing outfertilizer. So you may have to fertilize
a little more, and I definitelyagree with that. We have an im
WI simplify this to some extent,But the big three infertilizer. You have
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your nitrogen, your phosphorus, andyour potassium. The three numbers that you
see on the front of all thebags, phosphorus, and potassium. The
second two numbers, they're kind oflike rocks. They wherever you put them
in the soil, that's kind ofwhere they're going to scent. They're not
going to move around minimally within thesoil, so typically we want to do
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most of those as an incorporation intothe soil. Nitrogen the first one,
which is probably the most important ofthe three, it's kind of like a
little yeah, I liken it toa cowboy, and it kind of sits
there on the surface and it kindof has its little cowboy hat on,
and it's kind of hiding behind thedirt molecule. And when the water molecule,
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when you water kind of hits thedirt and he looks at and all
of a sudden, he jumps onthe back of the water moleculing goes to
all the way through the dirt.So that's how nitrogen gets moved through.
So if we're watering every day,you've got little cowboys coming out with the
water all over your patio, sowe have to put more little cowboys in
there. So it's important. Twelvesix six are Grower Special is an excellent
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product. A lot of your slowerrelease which is a slow release product,
but your osma coats, some ofthose type products right now probably aren't releasing
quick enough to really kind of keepup with nitrogen needs dealing more. Not
so if you've got some houseplants outthere or Japanese maples, it's probably not
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as an important thing as if you'retrying to do and I think something Brandon
you and I are talking about beforethe show. If you're trying to start
some of your fall vegetables in pots, if you're trying to do some tomatoes
in pots, even some of yourannuals that are your heavy feeders, that's
what we're talking about. Is yourdefinitely going to have to supplement, especially
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the nitrogen part of your fertilizers rightnow with as much watering as you're doing.
Did that answer your question or didyou really care? I really enjoyed
your analogy by the way, Ijust want to say that, thank you.
It was very energetic. Yeah,now you'll never get that visual out
of No, I'm still trying topicture a cowboy riding a water droplet.
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You like always say that, butit never gets old, you know.
Do we have a caller? Wedo have a caller. Good morning,
though, Welcome to w J.Bos On and Garden Show. How may
we help you today? Hi,I was wondering how I should or where
I should put my secument because Iput it right now. It's in front
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of a window, but it's notgetting It's very like dry, so I
don't know if it needs to belike in a better placement or outside.
Ideally, the plant would probably preferto be outside. If you have a
south facing or away west facing window, that probably would be good for your
succulent. Succulents want to be onthe dry side. But remember they do
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need some water from time to timetoo, so it may just be that
you want a water a little bitmore often than you are. But again,
if you have a south facing ora west facing window, that probably
would be fine, or you couldput it out on your patio. Just
if you put it outside, don'tforget to water. Usually think things like
succulents. They'll kind of let youknow when they're not getting enough light because
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they start to get stringy and leggy, though they just don't grow the same
as they would if they were gettingenough light. There you go, thank
you, all right, thank youfor the call bill. What does that
do? That opens up phone linesat four nine nine two six as four
nine nine w JVL. Well cool. You know. The other thing when
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we were talking about about watering,one of the biggest concerns that it really
hasn't been brought up is and thisis not a knock Baton Rouge. If
you've been outside of the Baton Rougearea, you realize what fabulous water we
actually have. One of the negativesto our water, and it's really not
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a negative for us, is thatour pH is rather high. I've been
told it's around eight point two.It could be off. I could be
off that number a little bit oneway or the other. But the issue
with us having to water as muchas we are watering is we can actually
affect our soul pH. But likebringing it up, bringing exactly bringing it
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up where that is going to becomeproblematic in the future is blueberry beds.
Blueberries like low pH can actually affectour garden pH. We can definitely have
a situation where we raise the pHand our vegetable gardens. If you have
massive azalea plantings, this can bean issue in the future. One of
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the things that once we do getback into some type of a rain situation
where we get soil moisture again,it would be important, I think to
take us soil sample, send itout, tell us you let's find out
did we I don't want to saymess up, but did we affect the
pH in our soils by all ofthis watering, especially if you have blueberries,
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especially even citrus. I would doit around citrus your vegetable garden,
if you have large azalu beds,we will probably be needing to lower our
pH. Nothing to do right now. Please do not come well, please
come into the store, but pleasedon't come in and say, well,
I think I need to adjust mysoil pH. We're using sulfur products to
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adjust our pH down, and withthe heat we're at right now, we
really do not want to do that. Over application of some of the sulfur
products and actually create a very acidicsituation which we can actually do more damage
than good because the heat creates thereact, the chemical reaction to go quicker.
So we do want to be verycareful doing any pH adjustment right now.
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But something to think about. Writeit down in your gardening books to
get in the back of your mind. It is something that we will be
concerned about. I have a question, Okay, what's good a citrus available
right now? Or Yeah? Soactually last week at I believe at all
the locations, we got in ata new shipment of citrus and we actually
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received some satsuma trees, which Ibelieve it was like three or four different
varieties, which we haven't seen satsumain a while, so I know a
lot of people will be excited aboutthat. But yeah, we got a
lot of really nice citrus trees.And did you get a chance to go
look at any of them? Butyes, yes, actually I did.
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And you know, one of thecoolest things that I was and I'm glad
y'all brought this up. We havedwarf citrus again, Yeah, that's true.
Do you have satsuma the blood orange? No, not a satsuma lemon
blood orange in the lime? Ibelieve that's correct. I remember seeing the
blood orange for sure. Yeah,yeah, that was because I almost bought
one, but my wife told meno, so and you've explained this to
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me before, but I thought itwas really interesting. I think it's worth
talking about on the show. Whatmakes a citrus tree a dwarf the root
stock, and that's because it's scraftedon to set a different kind of root
stock than a normal citrus tree wouldbe. I think, oh, man,
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you're stretching my memory now. Ithink it's called flying dragon. Is
the root stock that dwarfs the citrusor trifoliate, I believe is the one
they use for regular citrus. ButI'm again, I'm testing a memory and
I'm old and see now, soI'm incorrect on that. I do apologize,
but no, it's kind of cool. And it's one of the things
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that I haven't been a huge proponentone way or the other on actually purchasing
dwarf because most of the time,especially if you're doing a lime even sometimes
lemons, or if you're just doingcitrus in a container, you're going to
dwarf the plant by the container anyway. Yeah, fortunately, and one of
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the reasons why I in the past, I really haven't pushed it that much.
Is typically dwarf citrus was I'm Gontasaying much more expensive than your regular
citrus trees. However, that isnot the case anymore. The dwarfer what
is it, fifty four ninety nine, just like the regular citrus are,
so you're not having to pay apremium. So if you are, you
know, especially with the orange,if you're doing something in the ground and
(15:45):
need a smaller plant, the dwarfwould probably be the way to go.
Well, it would be the wayto go, probably, but but no,
it was kind of neat. Wefinally do have we have the brown
selects at zuma Owari, Arctic frostsand Miho. Yes, let's get me
go man. So we do havethe four varieties in stock. Now.
(16:07):
It's been godly I can't remember thelast time we had some zumas in stock.
If you get them right now,I would strongly urge probably leaving them
in a container, maybe even puttingthem somewhere on your patio where you can
get a little bit of afternoon shadeon them. We actually have a shade
structure at Seagan Lane that we've kindof put them on the east side of
it, so we get a littlebit of shade in the afternoon on them,
(16:30):
just to try and help them out. Water daily, yep, please
water daily again, you know,fortune And I'm sorry I do keep going
back to watering, but that isprobably the biggest issue we have coming in
the store every day. Do not, please, do not be fooled by
(16:52):
an afternoon thundershower. Yeah, anyrain that we've gotten lately, and it's
not been enough to mount anything.And one of the things, and this
is where I was trying to goearlier, and there it goes again.
No, I did refine. Rememberif you have an afternoon thundershower, when
it gets done, go check thecurb at the front of your yard.
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Most of the water, unfortunately,it is going to be in that curb
going into the storms because our groundis so dry that if we catch a
hard rain, it's just gonna flowright off. I mean, you're gonna
get a minimal amount of penetration,but most of it's gonna end up in
the gutter in the front of youryard going into the storm drain going into
the ditch. We need a twentyfour hours slow rain would be perfect.
(17:45):
What we need. We'd have toallow it to soak down in, not
to just splash and go. Youknow that's the people with the finger on
the end of the hose. Allyou're doing is you're splashing and going.
It water hits the ground and itdissipates, it goes away, you know,
it goes out into the curb inthe front. It doesn't soak in.
So again, Oh, it rainedat my house the other day.
(18:07):
Well, lucky for you. Iwish it would rain at my house,
but it really didn't do you justa whole lot of good other than create
more steam. And you know thatkind of goes back to you saying not
to plant the citrus right now becauseof the fact that everything's so dry,
you're gonna have a hard time justdigging. No truer words spoken. I
(18:30):
had a very very nice lady theother day homeowners association was I'm not gonna
say being unreasonable. I understand somewhat they're doing, but they wanted her
to plant a thirty gallon tree.And I'm telling her. I gave her
my business card. I said,look, have them call me. I
said, you know you can purchasethe tree. Well, you know,
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we can hold it for a shortperiod of time, and we're getting we're
not getting as much material in rightnow because it's just everything is so stressful.
You know, at this point,let's wait to the fall. Let's
at least let it cool down alittle bit. You're gonna have a better
success much better success rate planting.The other thing is, you can't dig
a hole for a thirty gallon treeright now. I mean you're gonna have
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you know, they're gonna be outthere drilling, putting dynamite just to get
hold doug and when it's this dry, it's so difficult to get that area
around their saturated. And she evensaid, well, she said, my
neighbor has a brown magnolia. Well, you know what if you plan a
magnolia right now, thirty gallons,you know, thirty gallons magnoia tree's two
hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah,that's a lot of money. And you
(19:37):
know, I just don't understand thatsome of these people had a customer in
the other day got mad at mewant of blueberries. I mean, blueberries
is zealous. They're a very veryfine, fibrous roots system. They're probably
the absolute worst thing to try toplant right now because either of those plants.
If they get dry the very first, the first time they're to you
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really can't rehydrate them the way youcan some other type plants. So you
know, I'm in the business ofselling. I want to sell plants.
Right now, I'd rather sell youa watering system because you're not going to
be successful. How many people havewe have bought plants a week ald go
in there bringing them back dead.Yeah, and I'm sorry. It's nothing
we can do for you at thispoint. It is lack of water.
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I mean, you know, Ilove the ones that you can tell they
soaked it right before they you know, they yanked out of the ground and
soaked it because the water's dripping outof it. No, we know what
you've done. It's just a matterof and yes, maybe your landscaper told
you to run your microsystem for fiveor ten minutes, it's not how you
how you do it. I putright now in the shrub beds, my
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wife's shrub beds. We have sprinklers. I do not I an hour every
point every place, it's an hour. I just set it up an hour,
then I move it an hour.I move it an hour. So
it's just it's it's people don't understandthe amount of water in the time period,
the time it needed to get deep. Soakings right, the best you
(21:08):
can do as a trowel. Takea little trowel out there. After you've
run your irrigation or your sprinkler,dig down a little bit. See how
far that water has gone down.If it's only gone down an inch,
run that sprinkler longer. Right,that makes sense, Thank you. Doesn't
make dollars, though, I guesswe'll find out. Okay. Anyway,
(21:29):
what else are questions do you haveso I can get off my watering soapbox?
Is it too early or late toplay at fall vegetables? WHOA,
that's a loaded question. Yeah,it is time, but it is not
time. I know. That's whatweird. If you want to do fall
(21:52):
tomate as fall peppers, you reallyhave to get them in the ground right
now and buy the ground I'm goingto break, and please help me here,
I'm monst suggest to them in containersright now. I'd agree. That
way. You can have them ina little more shade, a little bit
of hotter party, a little bitof afternoon shade. You can get some
size to them, watering them everyday fertilization, like we talked about,
(22:15):
because we're leaching the little cowboys out. And for those of the people that
weren't listening earlier, going why ishe leaching out cowboys? But but yeah,
let's you know, now, thebroccoli, the cabbage, to califlower,
lettuces, those type stuff. It'sjust too hot, those type crops,
(22:36):
the cold crops, the lettuces,those type things. If it's too
warm, they'll do what's called bolting, which is actually the plant will go
to flour. Once it's done thatthe plant is useless to us. So
as juvenile plants, it takes longerto do it. If you look,
I have to plant broccoli on Augusttwenty six. Come in the store,
(22:57):
get your broccoli plants, take himhome. Put them in one gallon containers
like Braden just said. Put themin a little bit of shade in the
afternoon. They're gonna be much betteroff. Keep them fertilized. Yeah,
Fall vegetables between you know, Fallis typically a dry period for us unless
we have hurricanes running through And Idon't want to go from where we are
(23:18):
to dry. How does that happen? Yeah, I mean, I don't
know how we can get much dryer. So I am in a clothe intern.
Who is this? That's Braden verygood and your butch from Glegs Nursery,
from where Cleg's Nursery. Where's ClegsNursery on Seagan? And then there's
(23:45):
two other places, three other threeokay, well you know you know it's
Scott Rica, our famous leader.If he was here, you know what
he would do. As soon asthe show was over, he would jump
in his car. He would godown ten, get off at the Seagan
Lane accent would go. I guessthat would be east on Segan Lane.
(24:07):
He would pull into the Median wheresomeone would have a cup of coffee waiting
for him. He would wave tothe nursery on Segan Lane, go continue
forward on Sherwood Forest Boulevard, gettingon I twelve, where he would get
off at Range Road and he wouldhead exactly five miles north to where our
Denham Springs store is. That's whatit was. I knew one of them
(24:32):
again. By then, he wouldhave finished the coffee that the people at
Segan Lane had, so he wouldhave someone in the Median that would give
him another cup of coffee. Hewould wave to our Denham Store. Then
he would go to Magnolia Bridge Road, where he would take a left.
He would jet over to Greenwell SpringsRoad. He would hop on Greenwell Springs
Road, headed towards Baton Rouge untilhe got just past Sherwood Forest Boulevard.
(24:52):
Then he would wheel into our GreenwellSprings location, jump out of his vehicle
real quick after he put it inpark, running, go to the restroom,
back in his car, go fromthere to our Donmore location where he
would just drive by waves say havea good day. Then he would hit
home. That's all loaded day.That's a lot to do, is that?
How long is that car? Rider? Well? He well, And
(25:15):
that's a concern because I can't tellanymore because we actually had a customer.
I used to do that when Scottand I did the show all the time.
I would always do that, andI always say he would be at
home by like nine fifty eight,And the customer figured out the distance and
the stops and traffic lights and figuredhe had to be going one hundred and
three miles an hour to do that. So in that time I would not
(25:37):
want to be the passenger. Andno, I don't know anyway, So
no, that is clegs four locations, all conveniently spread around town. Really
enjoy the one on Donmore, midCity. Our mid City branch. Done
some renovations there hell over year.I guess it might even been two years
ago now. And really, ifyou haven't been in that store for a
(25:57):
while, Rita and my will doa fabulous job. That's one of my
favorite stores. Yeah, it's it'skind of to some extent, reminds me
of Nailers where I came from.It's a little bit more of a boutique,
you know, kind of year nique. We're unfortunately, since especially since
Braden's been there, Seagan Lane's basicallybecome a supermarket. So he's just pushing,
(26:19):
pushing, pushing on us. Itseems like that's all we can do,
is yeah, but now all fourlocations are here to serve you.
Great staff at all four locations.I do bring the Seagan Lane store down
a little bit, but hey,there's good people there. We were talking
about fall vegetable gardening. Uh again, if you want to get involved four
(26:40):
nine nine nine five two six it'sfour nine nine w j bo I just
really a lot of your seeds.We are so dry, so hot,
You're just not going to get germination. If you try to put out seeds
right now, it's gonna be verydifficult. Uh. If you really just
have to do plants, you're andhave to really maintain a good moisture in
(27:02):
the garden. Putting a little small, sell packed vegetables out right now,
you probably are going to water acouple of times a day. I mean,
think about the poor our poor beddingplant people. We we water our
greenhouse twice a day. They basicallythey start watering when they get there at
eight o'clock in the morning and they'vepretty much finished their second round of watering
(27:22):
about five o'clock when we leave.So you know, you're gonna have to
get that moisture out there. Ifit's worth it to you to put that
much effort into it, come on, come get your plants. But I
just I don't know when it's gonnabreak, and I don't know when we're
gonna be able to do this,but I'm telling people to hold off for
sure. But you know that bringsup another point. You know, what
(27:47):
is it a week from today wehave our first football game yea, and
people have football parties, and whatdo they want to do for football parties,
is they want to decorate their yard. You know, some options for
them to to do that right nowwill probably stay in containers. You would
think, I would think, soyou you could do your crotons, you
(28:08):
could do your This is really theplants that we use for transitioning to fall.
It's it's really my favorite, someof my favorite plants, like the
crotons and the Moms marigolds. Yeah, miracle marigolds. Is I always like
to Oh, I think we havea caller. Well, let's see what
we do. I don't know,don't panic, try my best. Okay,
(28:33):
good morning, Philip, Welcome tow J Boslan and Garden Joe.
How may we help you today?Good morning Anna Claire. You were just
becoming such a radio personality. Ijust really enjoyed Clee. She's already asking
for a race. She's talking aboutholding out. I don't rightfully show rightfully
show Look, I just wanted totell you that was a wonderful tour of
(28:57):
the cled nursery location. But youknow, for me, it all started
on don More yea and uh andthat's where that's where I met Scott.
So I'm sorry about I'm glad youput that plug in for don More because
it is still a very neat neatlegs to go to. Yeah. Actually,
(29:19):
most people do not realize that iswhere I started. My wife was
actually working at the Donmore location whenwe got out of college and she went
to work full time for Marshall Cleggat that time, and I kind of
was without employment at the time,and Marshall asked me one day, says,
(29:45):
do you want to come? I'vegot some projects that need to be
done. Since you're not doing anything, why don't you come work, you
know, for as long as youcan if you find something else, I
understand, and that's what started it. My wife and I worked there for
that spring. That summer was whenMarshall Clegg bought the property on Seagan Lane
(30:06):
and he offered me the opportunity tomanage that property. In fact, I'd
kill all my employees right now.I was the first Clegg's employee to walk
onto Segan Lane. I brought achainsaw with me and I was the first
manager. Eric Gaspard and myself werethe first managers at the Segan Lane store
(30:27):
when they did the road construction andconnected Sherwood Forest Boulevard and Seegan together really
just really destroyed the business there onSeegan. So I at that point took
the opportunity to leave went to workas most of y'all are more familiar with
with Naylor's hardware for a little overthirty years before the flood of twenty sixteen
(30:53):
washed us away. And one ofthe reasons why I'm actually still around was
Tom Finnel. I owe him ahuge debt because he took all of us
in right after that flood. AndI always still remember and still real kind
of upset with Tom. He toldme, he says, I'm bringing you
back, and he says, I'mgoing to consider that you just had a
(31:14):
thirty year vacation. And I askedhim if he would give me vacation pay
and he said no. Oh,So anyway, we appreciate that plug,
and thank you Philip. Yes,And I do want to tell you that,
you know, I really enjoyed thatbecause being a native Baton Rouge and
(31:36):
and uh, you know, mywife and I are schell right in our
fortieth anniversary and we dated going toDon Moore and I grew up right by
by Naylor Brothers. Yeah, it'sjust good to hear that, and and
y'all are really, you know,CLIG just really an outstanding organization for the
city of bat Rouge. And soyou know, I'm not trying to give
y'all any big flug, but whaty'all do is very much appreciate. We
(32:04):
thank you very much that that reallymeans a lot. So anyway, the
checks in the mail, Philip,y'all have a good morning. Thank you.
Yeah, and a lot of peoplethat's one of the Tom Fennel and
Scott Rica are co owners. Tomis the general manager of Clegg's Nursery and
(32:25):
he doesn't get and doesn't want alot of credit for all of the civic
things that he is involved in inbaton Rouge. I'm not going to embarrassing
him by because I know he wouldbe, but it is some of the
stuff that behind the scenes that hesupports is very very interesting. But yeah,
family owned business been in business forjust over sixty years. Originally was
(32:49):
the Clegg's family who sold out toMarsh. I'm sold out to Scott and
Tom. But great organization to workfor. Really enjoy my cohorts. They
don't necessarily reciprocate with me, butwell, We'll just say it depends on
the day. I still can't believeI'll put that snake in my garden.
(33:13):
And I do want to for somepeople that have brought it up or whatever.
I do want to give a hugeshout out to the Baton Ridge general,
that whole organization. The team overthere was fantastic for those of you
who don't know. I was rushingaround my house so we could go Friday
and got bit by a cotton mouthand it wasn't fun. But I'm still
here to talk about it and havea great story. So what did we
(33:36):
have coming into work that day?There was something big going to the hay
bales, That's what it was.Yeah, And I'd do anything to get
out on that way, folks.He was trying to get out of the
hay bales. And Tom now knows. Do not tell me when hay bales
are coming in because I'll go toextremes. Not ton of load those.
But it's one of the things thatis coming up. We are starting to
get into our fall decorating. Haybales are here, pumpkins, that type
(34:00):
stuff. I thinks about a weekout, still one of the neat things
and I don't. I don't usuallylike to plug. But one of the
things that I last two years wehave sold out very very quickly on and
are really cool, is we AndI know people are gonna start yelling at
me. Philip's gonna call back andtake everything nice he just said back.
But we get our Christmas water globesin. Yeah, I've seen that,
(34:23):
and they are on display and theyare I don't know why, just they
There's so many unique little scenes andthey look like little snow globes and it's
just really cool. I know Michael'sgot what thirty eight of them now,
if there's one, be surprised.But anyway, if you've if you've seen
(34:44):
those in the past and want tosee our full selection, stop by any
of the locations. We do havethem up and on display, not ready
for and actually we have them onsale, so I come by the stores.
You have you seen him, AnnaClaire? I think I haven't seen
them like recently, but I knowButch has gotten me some before. Don't
(35:06):
you have the Ballerine? I havethe Snowman and the what it's gonna It's
gonna come to me. You're tooyoung to be seen all anyway, I
think that's fine. You were talkingabout transition plants. Yeah, party plants
for LSU football, Go Tigers.Yeah, and there's a lot of options.
(35:30):
Yes, you in the front row, you have, I remember it's
the Nativity scene. Oh okay,sorry, go ahead. What about what
about a phone number? Oh yeah, you can call us at four nine
nine nine five two six out isfour nine nine w j b M.
Then they call that if they wantto ask about snow globes, they can.
Okay, just all right, continue, Sorry, so a fault transition
(35:54):
plant. Speaking of transition, sowe are actually starting to see a lot
of that come into the into thestore uh here recently. And a few
of those things would be like Croton'sand moms and that's your traditional ones.
One of my favorites the ornamental pepper. They're really cool. I just like
(36:16):
how they all their little peppers canbe different colors on one point. Okay,
So yeah, I mean, andit is so a plant that we
do promote. I just don't knowwhy. I'm just not I mean,
I understand they got the you know, the red, the yellows, the
oranges and all and you know,but that's just not one of my Sorry,
(36:37):
did you eat one of the pepper? No, I'm not stupid.
I do put my hand in asnake's mouth, but I don't eat those
peppers. No. But now youknow, one of the other things is
some of like the bubble gum,some of the supertunius. Yeah, a
great plant to put in right now. Again, we're in the we're in
the business of selling plants. Butunless you just really have to, it's
(37:00):
not a great time to plant becausethe temperatures. But yeah, if you
have a party coming up for theFlorida State Game next weekend, you know,
we do have the crotons are excellentplanting put around the front door.
Do even have some lantanas. Yeah, we'll give you a pretty yellow color.
So we do have material for thoseparties. Just again, make sure
(37:21):
you keep it well watered. SoI'm assuming that there's going to be a
really funny story that comes along withthis. But I was told I should
ask you if people have been playinggolf in your yard, But well,
it looks like it. I've gotdivits taken out of my yard all over
the place. And actually I havefound a couple of golf balls jokingly,
(37:42):
but no, actually I have Ithink my neighbor's playing golf in is a
little while. What we're having issueswith and we are getting a lot of
questions at the store about that,is that's Armadilla's. Oh really they are.
What we're doing is you think aboutArmadilla's eat grubs and earthworms or they're
made food source. So they aredigging in the ground to get these well
(38:06):
areas that have not been watered.As we talked about with the poor people
that have to plant thirty gallon Magnoiatrees. It's even for them with their
sharp claws, it's very difficult forthem to dig. So what they're doing
is they're migrating into areas where wehave been watering, where the ground is
soft or abe, because they candig better there and be because their food
(38:28):
source is going to be more activethere as dry as the ground is a
lot of our grubs and earthworms oreither dormant or dead in dry areas where
they are much more active. Soit's concentrating eating into more concentrated areas.
I use the word concentrated twice therein one sentence. So I'm contract job,
thank you. So, yes,we are seeing a lot more damage
(38:50):
in lawns were armadillas or digging holes. We have always had issues with squirrels
doing that. So if it's asmall little div it were, it could
be a squirrel, But most ofthat damage is caused by Armadilla's the biggest
issue. You know, they're starving, you know, I know, it's
making a mess out of the yards. And the other thing is they're very
(39:12):
difficult to trap. They're very trapshy. I know there's some YouTube videos
on building traps that supposedly are moreeffective for them and relocating them to parks
or whatever, but again, untilwe start getting rained, we are going
to have that. It looks justlike somebody's taking golf divots out of your
yard, but that is armadillo oranimals things. We do sell a product,
(39:37):
Armadillos Scram, which is extremely effectiveif they're getting into flower beds.
I would definitely urge people to usethe armadillo scram in flower bed areas to
prevent damage to the shrubs, Butto try and apply that over a yard
would be I would think cost prohibitive. But armadilla is a big issue creating
(39:58):
divots in your yard. However,if you are out there playing golf that
could be your own divans. Butbut it seems like to me they would
go more for like garden beds becauseit'd be like softer. But they're going
where But they're going well, andthat's a yeah. And yes, I've
got an area where my wife planetssome impatients. They have just totally ransacked
(40:19):
that flower bed right there. Butagain, they're they're going wherever they smell
their foods are. So if thefood is out in your yard where you've
been watering, fortunately to keep yourgrass alive, they're gonna dig a little
hole and dig up that grub orthat worm that's there. So and yes,
there is. And that's why Isay, if you hear having issues
(40:40):
or problems in your flower beds.The only product I've ever found that works
as far as repellent is the Armadillasscram It's specific. It's one of the
things that people don't understand about repellents. You've got these companies that, in
fact, one of the biggest onescalled repels all because it's not specific enough.
(41:01):
If you're you know, if youhave a dog, get something specific
for a dog, cat, getsomething specific for a cat. The Armadilla
gets something specific for the armadilla.Try to I think you need some snake
scram We do sell that. Butyou know what, it doesn't work on
water moccasins. It's great for rattlesnakes and coral snakes and copper heads,
(41:25):
but it doesn't work on moccasins.And it's unfortunate. It is very unfortunate.
You know. I've never seen thatbugger. You never found it.
I never have found it, neversaw it when it bit me, never
saw it before or after that,and have not seen it since. Some
people think it may have died ofalcohol poisoning. It's possible, I guess.
(41:50):
Anyway, we have a couple moreminutes left in the show. Somebody
wants to give us a call fortwo six, We can go to that
real quick. We are one ofthe biggest concerns I have, and there's
not a whole lot we can doabout this. Again, going back to
watering, is trees, mature trees. Yeah. Driving around Baton Rouge,
I'm starting to see, especially someof the water oaks that are around here
(42:15):
are are not going to make it. And if we do get a hurricane.
One of the big negatives to thismuch drought that people don't really,
and some people are realizing it becausethey are getting large limbs falling out of
these trees. Our trees are extremelybrittle. Though drier they are, the
more brittle they're going to become.So if we do catch a hurricane or
(42:37):
any type of high wind storms rightnow, we are going to have a
tremendous amount of damage watering a maturetree like that. Truth of the matter
is, you just take a soakerhose out there and turn it on for
two days. That's the only wayyou're going to really truly get any hydration
into large mature trees. If you'rein an area where you feel that's necessary,
(42:59):
I definitely would with the effort inbecause again, these trees are I
had a huge limb fall out ofone of my trees a couple days ago,
just it was it just broke off, and it wasn't that big of
a windstorm. So if we dohave sometimes I think maybe maybe we do
want a hurricane, but there's gonnabe a lot of damage if we do.
Yeah, is that the music?It's gonna be a lot of way
(43:21):
up. Yes, yes, itis. Well, definitely appreciate you being
here, Anna Claire you make theshow go much better than I would have
ever done it. Braden, thankyou for your effort, and thank y'all.
Come by seeing Lane and see allthat Braden has done. He has
really taken a mess and made itinto actually a very shoppable experience. So
we do appreciate you very much.I'll try. Do you think we're gonna
(43:43):
be back here next week? Ordo you think they're gonna keep us off
the air. She's already quit onme. We are the Independent Garden Centers
at Baton Ridge. We're here everySaturday morning from eight o'clock to nine o'clock
to entertain you and learn a lotmore from y'all than y'all will ever learn
from us. We will see younext week. Come this stores were opened
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