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It's a beautiful day in the capitalcity here today, suns out,
temperatures are slightly cool, but verynice that sun. It's just gorgeous,
ahn't you. Yeah, we're herethis morning for the WBO Lawn and Garden
Show. Zane Mercer, good morning, Good morning, how are you.
I'm doing well. I'm Scott Rica. Jeremy Porstine is at the board inside
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the control room there helping the showrun smoothly like he always does. He
said, I mean, it's reallya pretty day. Yeah, no,
it'll be nice. We've got thatwishes it'll be It is right now.
It's gorgeous, gorgeous and woking upyet okay and rush out. I'll shout
the house this morning. And yetyou still got here before me. Yeah,
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exactly, I've got that timing downnow. Yeah, yeah, you
know, I was at the house, you know, planning what we would
talk. Where's your notes today?Where's your notes? I'm not accustomed to
having them. You usually have afigured we'd freestyle it today. I think
we'll probably make that. Okay.Yeah, you know, we have plenty
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of stuff to talk about. Yeah, we do, we do, Okay,
I'm finished with my List's just peoplecan join the nonsense by picking up
the phone calling Fois four nine ninew jb O. It is really a
beautiful day out there. I stillwe still need some rain, but there's
a little moisture in the ground.I kind of wish I was off so
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I could do some yardwork. Ihave some color plans that need to come
out and new ones go in.Well, I don't think I really need
to pull mine out. It's alot of perennial stuff in one bed and
some you know, when you justdo perennials, the bed doesn't look nice
and manicured. Often it is.There's some moments during the year where it
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looks great, yeah, and there'ssome moments it does not. Yeah.
So whenever I'm doing the bed,I'm like, well, you know,
I've got I've had those in thebed for twenty years. Am I tired
of looking at them? You know? Or you know I have some Uh.
I guess it was Mystic Salvea.I think it was the variety.
And you know during the year it'stoo big. Then I cut it too
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big. Then I cut it toobig, and right now it's like,
okay, there's nothing else really that'sin color. Do I leave it?
God, I really need to cutit kind of thing. See, mine's
the perfect size because I kept mine, I guess in like September October.
Yeah, so it's kept it alittle shorter, and I have you know,
the last time I was here withBill Runtrew talk my deer plants or
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that that jinxed me. I wenthome. We talked about one of the
things about having sometimes plants that thedeer like to eat, but within a
lot of plants that they don't,so sometimes they don't get to it.
That very night after that show,they came and ate all my pencils or
they prone the top, so nowthere's no color. And then the moms.
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I have this perennial mom. It'san antique. It's called Lady Claire.
And almost every year, right whenthe buds start to form, they
walk in the flower beds and eatthem all up. With this year,
they're blooming like crazy, so theyate the pencils in the odd spot in
the place they could walk right inand eat the moms. They I don't
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know, maybe they got filled upon the pencils maybe. And you know,
I mean I had goats screwing upthere. Smaller it's a smaller deer.
Yeah, you know. Yeah,the deer have fancier clothes. Yeah,
exactly. But you know, Imean, if they're hungry enough,
they eat pretty much anything, yeah, you know, and then they it
just really depends what they want toeat. Yeah. Yeah, they'll always
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go through and try it just toyou know, remind themselves whether they liked
it a lot or a little,yeah, or not at all. But
yeah, so yeah, and westill have some color to put in.
I mean, people still ask them, what is it okay to put pansies
in for the winter. There's almostnothing you could put in stronger now a
pansy. Am. I I didsix packs this year, first time in
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a long time, long time.Yeah, I mean they are they're almost
six inches. Wow, you know, it's it's that boy sich pot size.
Ye six inch. Yeah, youknow, but they're I mean that
beacon field hich. I hadn't donethat in the long that variety in a
long time, and it's just outperformed. What were you telling me the other
day? You're talking about something thatnormally what typically happens is people drive around
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and they see something in the landscape. I'll just say McDonald in march.
That's pretty. Let me go getsome and quite often, you know,
it might be delfiniums, or itmight be fox gloves. But you know,
to get a fox glove to looklike that, you need to plant
it starting like in October or now. So what were you talking about.
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You said you put in some littlefour inch pots of fox glove the other
day. Yeah. They're already bloomingat your house, you see. Yeah,
so I think they were bigger thanfour inch, but already blooming.
I'm about to actually cut them.Yeah, we cut the bloom spikes.
Yeah, and that plant will justget bigger. You go from like a
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four inch fox glove might be aboutthis big. Can y'all see my hands
what I'm doing on the air,Yeah, so maybe five inches across.
Yeah, you put it in theground. Now it grows man. By
the time it starts blooming, it'slike sixteen eighteen inches across and the spikes
literally you can get four and ahalf foot tall, and it's so spectacular.
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But to get that spectacular plant,you need to start early. Yep,
yeah, early, and then Imean, you know, I think
it's the warm weather that's making allthe fox globes bloom, you know.
But it's the same with like mypansies. I mean, I dead head
my pansies, yeah, because Iwant them to try. I want them
to thicken up, because pansies willtry to make seed, and you're not
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worried about the seed of the pansies. You're worried about the size of the
plant and how many flowers it putsout. So the energy that's going into
making those seeds, if you deadhead them, that energy not wasted on
seed production, is going back intoplant growth and new flowers exactly. Now.
I'll have to tell you if Ihad a bed of pansies, I
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probably wouldn't be out there dead headingbecause that's a lot of work. Just
once a week, you do itonce. If you do it, if
you do it on a Sunday,you don't have flowers not come out,
not a Monday by the nord Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, but you know
you do it at the beginning ofthe week. By the end of the
week you've already got coming out.Well, and if the plants are big
while you're pinching, you already stillhave flowers already there, fresh ones.
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So yeah, once the plants getmore mature, like I've got those snap
dragons I put in, and it'sa small areas, maybe two and a
half three feet wide and maybe eightfeet long. It's not a whole lot.
But if you go out and deadheads. Now, I'll walk out
with my pocket knife and I getunderneath the full blossom formation and I'll just
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fold it over my knife and thenI just i've got some shrubs. I
throw the debris up underneath the shrubsa little compost and going on there,
and it stays in color. Andevery time I clip that stem where that
flower cluster is, what happens belowthat is two stems come out, and
so then each of those stems willhave a flower cluster. And when those
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go bad, I clipped those outnow, so I went from one stem
to two stems. Now, whenI clip both of those. Now I'm
gonna get four stems, and theplant's getting wider and wider and throwing more
and more color out to where Ihad snap dragons last year, some sonnet
snaps, and I bet you theywere eighteen inches across. Well, yeah,
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they were magnificent. And snap dragonsin particular, or any of those
stalky plants, it just helps thembecome more stable, right, less floppy.
And I did actually I have alot of the little steaks to use.
Now what I did this year upin the front are those are snapshots,
which they're not gonna get more abouta foot tall anyway, so I'm
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not even worried. And if theylay over on their side, those stems
that I help and encouraged by pruningin the top, well, the plant
laying on the side, it encouragesthe same kind of stems to come up.
So I get lots of stems,lots of color exactly, and you
have to keep feeding them. Yes, yes, they're hungry. That's one
of the few things that you wouldfertilize during the wintertime, are the betting
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plants that are winter production or wintergrowing plants. Don't confuse that with winter
blooming shrubs like a camellia. Theybloom in the winter, but they're not
growing in the winter, and wewould not want to fertilize those at this
time because if we do get warmand there's fertilizer there, they'll start putting
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out new growth because all of asudden they think it's spring. Then if
we get cold again, that newgrowth could be damaged. Very what happened
last year, Yeah, that's right, we were I was here one morning
with Alan Owens and he had trackedhe had something that tracked all the weather
with growth periods. We were thirtydays ahead of our normal temperatures and growth
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pattern. So the plants had wokenup early and had started hydrating themselves.
But you know, the SAP wasup to put in a simple term,
and that's what did so much damagefor that last freeze. You know,
it was weird. I mean mycrap had new growth, yeah, upping
out. I was up on theroof doing trimming. Yeah. Then it's
very odd to see actual leaves.Yeah. Yeah. I want to remind
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people we have open phone lines offour nine, nine, five six is
four and nine. WJBO gets youright in and so if you have some
questions pick up. So you know, I mentioned fertilization. I can only
really think of off the top ofmy head this morning, only two woody
ornamentals or wood he might be astretch, but that ornamental structural plants that
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you would fertilize in the wintertime.Can you think of any? And I'm
curious what the two you're thinking of. Louisiana irish are cool seasoned growers.
Yes, it's also the time ifyou if your bed of Louisiana irises has
gotten to the point where it's oldand stopped blooming, that's because they're too
congested. So what you do rightnow, you go out there with your
shovel, You loosen up underneath,grab a bunch of the leaves and just
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yank the whole thing up, andthen you break off some pieces and put
them back in a little more spaced, and that way, next year you're
blooming to be better again. Andthen you know, maybe, depending on
how you space them, maybe everythree to five years if you'll space your
bed back out and it's easy,literally you can just they're very shallow and
just you know, jab your shovelunderneath and literally grab the leaves and you
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take them up and they'll have alittle geometric pattern. You can break them
off very easily put them back in. But those are they grow through the
winter and then they blow them inthe spring. If you keep them wet
enough, they can look good throughthe summer, but if they ever get
dry in the summer, they're goinginto a dormancy. So that's why Louis
hant ours sometimes in the summer notquite so pretty. The happiest looking plants,
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right, and can you give meone? I got another one right
off tome I go. I'm waitinga canthus which you don't see very much.
Yeah, because well it does atthe nursery most of the time.
Well because of the watering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hard to
keep that. Yeah, there arethere are certain plants that when you come
to look at them at the nurserylike ugh. But you know, in
order to keep the many groups nextto it happy with the water they need,
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sometimes we're watering or too much forcertain things. It's hard. It's
hard to get everything perfect with uh, I mean Mahonia for an example.
Yeah, yeah, Mahonia net butmy gosh, Mahonia billiye have you ever
smelled the flowers. They smell gorgeous. It's like old it's best. It's
like the best old fashioned rose smellthat you could ever smell. I actually
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remember where I was the first timeI realized how good those smelled. And
I was at a I can't eventhink of the name of the place,
but it's in mobiles where the CocaCola family that I can't do the gardens.
But I was standing in a reallyshaded area and I could smell roses,
and I my nose doesn't work verywell, so when I smell something
it's strong. Because I was standingthere with my wife's like I smell roses,
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I said, he it can't behere. And I look around and
look around and look around, andthere was a big group of mahony's blooming
and I walked over discovered that thatwas the smell that was just outstanding.
And the other one and that's Mahoniabilly i. Fortunii doesn't smell like that,
did See? I had the softcaressonia. Yeah, they didn't have
a smell. Yeah yeah, butMahonia billy i one. So you know,
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So we're talking about fertilization, Sofor like betting, plants. What
do you like to use through yourwinter crap? It's ain't I have to
tell you. Most of what Iuse as broken bags from the store.
I mean me too, me too, But I am not overly. I
mean my favorite general fertilizer. IfI didn't have anything at the house,
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there wasn't a broken bag. IfI was going to pick one fertilizer at
the nursery, I usually pick upa Grower Special. Yeah. I mean
it's a great general purpose. Uh. It's got a control released nitrogen,
it's got phosphorus potash in it,and it has a great micronutrient blend in
it too. So I tell peoplethat the big three numbers that you're looking
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at, that's the meat and potatoes. And then but if you ate the
same meat and potato meal every dayfor your life, you'd be missing certain
things that you're not getting. Uh, and so you need you might take
a vitamin pill. Well, that'sthe micronutrients, you know, that's a
the calcium, magnesium, manganese,boron, zinc. You know all those
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little things that they're just in allthe good stuff we don't actually think about.
Yeah. Yeah, So so that'smy favorite and certainly there are reasons
why they have different types of formulations. But when you read a book or
recommendation for something that tows you usethis fertilizer, and there are some people
who come in like, oh,I need I need to have twenty twenty
twenty. Well I've got some,you know, Or let's say fifteen fifteen
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fifteen, Well I've got some tripletwenty. Nope, I need fifteen fifteen
fifteen. They don't understand what they'reasking for when they say something like that,
because you're looking at the ratio.So fifteen fifteen fifteen there's a one
to one one ratio. A twentytwenty twenty is a one to one to
one ratio. You put a littleless twenty twenty twenty in the mix,
and now it's fifteen fifteen fifteen.That simple. So we were talking about
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fertilization. Yeah, and I wassaying, certainly, there are reasons for
some of the different formulations. Butwhen somebody walks in and has some information
that they've gotten online or out ofanother book or whatever, and he says,
no, I have to have thisfifteen fifteen fifteen, I can't do
anything else. Well, you haveto think I think. All right,
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So the information that you received fromhowever you got it, let's just say
on the internet, where did itcome from? Was it in our geographic
region? Are the soils there thesame as here? Most of the time
the conditions from one geographic region toanother are not the same, and so
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you're hard pressed to follow this instructionthat you see on the internet. But
it could be from you know,half the country away. So it probably
if you did soul test everything else. So probably that's not something that you
have to have for hereridiculous. Yeah, I mean I really like, like
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on my way home, I liketo put on it, put on you
know, some some plant thing onYouTube, just drive, yeah, you
know, And I've been listening tothis. I mean, there's this thing
that I listened to sometimes it's onthe internet. That's the one. Yeah,
the iHeartRadio. Yeah, the lawnand Garden show thing that you can
get on there on the WJB Lawnof Garden Show. Yeah, I do
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listen to that, But no,I mean sometimes I listen to like I've
been on a kick listening about bolts. You know, that's something that's kind
of dwindled in sales. It's notan immediate gratification plant. You have to
think ahead. If you're planting bulbsfor the spring, you should have already
been starting to think about that now. If you wanted daffodils and things,
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you should get them. If youwanted tulips, you should have already purchased
them and put them in a refrigeratorfor now. So so, and that's
why I like doing the fox gloves, the delphinium stuff that will be blooming
in the springtime, primarily like heavily. You know, well, and you
got your pansies that are blooming nowand such so, but take all the
fertilization and all the tips with agreen as salt. Most of the time,
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oh absolutely, because it's just like, all right, this this lady
lives in Pennsylvania. Yeah, it'sgood for you there. That doesn't mean
it's good for us here exactly.Yeah. So geographical locations like key with
any of that, it does.Yeah, you have to you have to
think about that whenever you're getting anyinformation off the net. And then you
don't always know that person's saying onething, but what results did they really
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get? Yeah, they're not comingback in most cases six months later.
Go oh, you know what Itell you it didn't really work that well.
Yeah, or it just wasn't aseffect I mean, you know,
just wasn't as effective as a differentmotive action. You know, what's something
that I've seen recently that had justthe best effects for proper fertilization and spacing
and everything. What there's about tenthousand point SETI is in the greenhouse right
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next to my office. And it'sspectacular. I mean, they're just really
cool and we are having an openhouse this Sunday. Can invite everybody to
come. Look. You just lookout the window and you can see.
Now I have to actually walk throughthe Betting Plant House, through the Christmas
trees, across what we call theEast Road, and intrough the building and
around into the Point Setti house.It's worth the walk, No, it
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is. Takes me all about twominutes. It is impressive. Yeah,
ten points that is we're at openhouse. Everybody's walking to come. It's
going to be from ten to twoon Sunday. We will have Santa there
that you can take your own photoswith Santa. We don't have a photographer
there. You have to be yourown photographer and he'll be there from ten
to one thirty. I think yeah, I think yeah. But to see
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that many point SETI is, it'spretty impressive. And I've walked several people
over there through the last in allyear. Whenever they do, you know,
they'll be putting out color and everything. It's impressed. Like when Bocan
billis are Embloyde. Yeah, it'simpressive. But the point set he is,
I mean that is, that's solike a half an acre that that
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greenhouse like a half an acre allpoints at. It's pretty pretty exciting.
And they're all right next to eachother. It's not like they're spaced out.
Oh no, yeah, so yeah, So that's uh, that's this
Sunday. Anybody would like to comeand view. That's it next door to
the Greenwell Springs location. Uh,the one O seven to one to three
Greenwell Springs Road is the actual addressfor that. If you want to write
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that down and put it in yourphone, one O seven to one three
Greenwell Springs Road. It's one ofmy favorite stores. Thank you. So
we still haven't had any callers pickup the phone. I want to remind
y'all it's the phone number four ninenine six as four nin nine WJBO.
We've kind of talked about some bettingplant options. I like the plant that
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I used to love to see,uh and they used to use have it
on the seed racks, but Idon't see it anymore. It's larkspur.
That was a plant that a lot. There was a place near where I
I lived that you did seeds larklarkspur seed every fall and they were gorgeous
in the spring. It was oneof those plants, like you said,
you plant it now, you enjoyit later. Yeah, And for anyone
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that's didn't make the correlation that whenI said delphinium and he said larkspur,
same thing. Yeah, you know. But it's just I mean and that
I like that plant a lot becauseit is such a true blue. I
mean it's like a deep, deep, vibrant blue. And you can't always
achieve that with most betting plants.No you cannot, No, you cannot.
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So but there's some pretty uh likethat beacons filled beacons Field blue pantsies
is really nice. So so yeah, it's uh, it's great. So
so if if they have planted outand there's still plants that you can get.
Now, if you're trying to putsome betting plants in snap dragons,
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pansies, you can do super tunisright now. They're pretty hardy. It
would take something really cold to messup a supertunia. And it's primarily what
my front my front yard is supertunious. And then honestly, I mean,
even if it gets cold with thesupertunias, you can usually just cut him
back to the plug and it justflushed right back the flush. Right,
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you put a little fish and motionfertilizer on them, they flush out in
a bat a month. All right. So all right, so you asked
me about fertilizer, and partly ina commercial and partly just now you've given
me two different things you like touse. What do you like to put
on your on your plants to makethem pop? Blood meal? And so
when do you put your blood mealon? I put it on before a
plant. Ah, do you havea time range and just kind of do
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it? And then we're talking aboutprep work so far this what's that?
What's that term? I don't knowwhat that term is? Prep work?
Huh, A little bit of prepwork. Oh wait, wait, there's
this guy that works at Greenwall.He's been there for a long time.
And he always says the three mostimportant things to have your plans too,
well, whether it's betting plants orshrubs. The number one is ground prep.
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So that's what you're talking about,right. The second thing he says
is ground prep, and then thethird thing he says is ground prep.
So that's kind of what you're you'restrengthening that. I mean, we don't
like you if you plant I mean, any of these infant plants, even
if it's a plant, oh,this drought tolerant, if it's a baby,
you still have to take care ofit. I still have to.
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Yeah, still have to take careof it, all right, But you
don't want to put put that intosome exhausted soil. We need to,
you know. That's how I likethat phrase, exhausted soil, that soil
because the prop before might have takena lot of the necessary nutrients out exactly.
Yeah. So like I mean themeat and potatoes and the vitamin pillar.
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So I did my blood meal.It was like three weeks, I
think, uh huh. And that'sorganic. I guess it takes a little
while for that to start to releaseanyway. Yeah, so you put out
early, it starts to release alittle and then you put your plants in,
so already they have something available tofeed on, exactly. And that's
why that's why my little six sosix pansies that were so small. All
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right, So now we have toexplain with six so six manes. That's
what the small pack, the smallpack, the little cell pecks. Yeah,
it looks like, yeah, plantswe can buy. You know,
I was trying to cut corners.Yeah, you know, but yeah,
normally that would be the smallest thingwe sell. Then we go to a
four inch pot, then maybe afour and a half and up and up.
So that's the small size. That'sthe ones that you can buy a
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tray of thirty six plants for whatever, twenty six. Yeah. Yeah,
So I'm just mister Clegg used tomister Sam Clegg used to look at you
all the time, goes you know, people talking about fertilization. You like
to eat every day, don't you? Plants need food? We actually have
one collar. Let's go ahead andgo to Donna. Donna, good morning,
how can we help you? Goodmorning? What was the name of
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the all purpose fertilizer you mentioned?Grower Special, Grower Special, Yeah,
okay, yup, it's a.It's a high yield brand. It's a
red and yellow bag when you comeinto the store. Okay, another question
I've heard. Well, I plantedsome of the Amazon dy Answers for the
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first time this year. They arelay. Yeah, you have trimmed them
back like you earlier. Well,they're is it the blossom spike this standing
up tall? Is that what you'retalking about? Yeah, okay, So
I would enjoy those flowers and thenyou can deadhead and bring them back down.
But enjoy the flowers is going togive you now, and then you
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keep fertilizing, you keep pinching,and they'll just keep making stalks. So
but yeah, if they still havesome good color on them, just wait
till that's finished before you before youdead head and take that stem down lower.
Don't just clip it directly underneath theflower, yep, because that one
won't regenerate off of that stem inthe way some other plants do. But
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that's a gorgeous plant in the wintertime, and it gives you a nice you
know height with some background. Youhave something shorter in front if you want
to, or just by itself throughoutthe season. Just keep blooming. Yeah,
Oh good, okay, And I'veheard that our winter is supposed to
be pretty harsh that snap dragons maynot be a good choice. I've got
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them in my yard. It takesit takes a pretty good cold to mess
up a snapdragon, So and ifwe did get something that bad, I
would just take a sheet or somesome winter protection cloth and I just put
it over it for the evening.The one thing about the snap dragons,
like mine or dwarf, and they'reshort and stocky. I can just lay
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the sheet directly on them. Ifyou have something like the Sonnets or Livery
something that grows taller, you mightwant to put some sticks in the ground
first to keep whatever you're laying overit from weighing down on top of the
plants too much. Essentially build kindof like a tint. Yeah, and
it takes a lot to mess upwith a snap dragon, so uh I
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I didn't think that was gonna bethat problematic. So I've got them in
my orders looking gorgeous. Great.Okay, well my last question, we've
got really blue days this year.Yeah, that's if you were listening earlier.
The pentas the deer eating are rightbehind a beautiful cluster of blue days.
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But if I had planned the bluedays even thicker going back into the
bed, they might not have beenable to reach them my pents. Yeah,
uh, well the day sometimes sometimesit's it's it's a I mean,
it's a perennial most of the time. It just depends how what we did.
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Yeah, I've one of the managersof one of the locations, she's
had it go through the winter successfullyeven with flooding and had it just do
fine. So but that doesn't alwayshappen. And sometimes if we have a
big freeze, it'll brown the entiretop. So that might be a little
something. If it's not too bigof an area or too much of a
problem, maybe throw a little sheetif it gets extreme you know weather.
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But but you they can they canrepeat. There's a lot of things that
are perennial that I still plant asannuals because I don't like to look at
the same thing always from year toyear or so. Well, I always
think about square footage too for me. Yeah, but that blue days is
very impactful. It blooms for youknow, the whole summer, so you
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know, better to have a littleinsurance, you know, with a freeze,
they just go out and throw alittle something on it. Okay,
yeah, they're so pretty. Idon't want to pull them up. Oh
yeah, oh no you yeah.Well, it's always a guest as to
what mother nature gives you to kindof mulch them, mulch over them a
little bit. Uh huh, justto try and insulate them. Yeah,
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if it got really cold, youcan take a bale of pine shaw and
just kind of pile it on top. Temper early stuffing like that. Okay,
good, okay, thank you,all right, you're welcome. That's
all my questions a this morning.Well, don I hope you have a
great day. I appreciate it.Cool all right, and so that brings
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us we've got another caller. Wehave lots of open phone lines, so
at four nine nine nine five twosix, don't be shy, go ahead
and call in, just like Susandid. Susan, good morning, and
thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn andGarden Show. How are you. I'm
great and I always enjoy listening toyou all. Oh well, thank you,
thank you. My question is Ilive in a townhouse community. Uh
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huh, and people are still sprinklingtheir grass. Well, tell me it's
still dry with water. Yeah,yeah, yeah, it's still it's still
dry, Susan. What last weekI had some piles of dirt on the
property next door to the retail areaat Greenwell, and I had to push
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that dirt down into some trenches.And that was after the rain. Suppose
it rain, and I didn't evenhave quarter inch of penetration into that soil.
And yes, we had a littlerain, but there's very few places
that had a large enough amount ofrainfall. So if you went out to
dig a hole in the ground,I bet you you wouldn't even have half
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an inch of moisture. So ifthe grass is overly dry going into winter,
it's more stress. And then ifwe have some bad conditions, it
can stress the grass even more andso spring green up might be diminished greatly.
So I would if I had theability to easily water my lawn,
I would. Right now, weare so dry as ridiculous. Okay,
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great, great, So even asyou said in winter, are we close
to winter yet? Well we wouldnormally we would be normally, but our
temperatures are cooler right now. Butit's not so much the temperature right now,
it's the lack of ground moisture.We are at a great, great
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deficit. So okay, very good, thank you so much. You're welcocome
welcome. And you know it's Imean, drive around town. Look at
all the big trees that are dying, all the big shrubs that are dying.
Do you take corporate on the wayhere? Sometimes? Did you take
it today? No? You shouldlook at every other Uh. I think
it's about twenty foot magnolia. Oh, yeah, there's lots of magnolisas.
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Yeah, there's lots of southern magnoliasthat are suffering. And it's hard to
water a big tree properly anyway.But a lot of people go, oh,
the water bill. But what's moreexpensive the water bill or calling an
arborist or a tree company to cometake your tree down, or having to
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re landscape yard because all you shrubsare I mean, watering is the cheap
way out. So and when youdo water, oh, watering, holding
the garden hose in your hand isjust about always not worth it. The
only thing that use my wand foris pots. Is my pots. And
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I've got like one hanging basket.Yeah, and you know everything else in
your yard put a sprinkler on theend of the hose and walk away and
walk away to go do other stuff. That's right, that's right. And
you know, if you won't rememberto turn off, get an inexpensive timer
and put it on the faucet.It makes it so much easier. You
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have to water a pretty long timeto get the water to soak in.
These rains that we're having, they'renot I mean they're barely wetting the surface,
and we have been so dry forsuch a long time that there's no
ground moisture. The big trees they'resuffering. If I had a big tree
I was worried about, and Iwouldn't probably do it overly often. I
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would take the hose, put itout there. I wouldn't even put a
garden hose on it, I meana sprinkle on it. I would just
put it at a low trickle,lay it down, and I would walk
away, literally for several hours.Yep. That's the only way you can
get it to soak in enough.And it's still I mean, a tree
takes a lot of water. Yeah, I think we were off air when
we were when I was talking aboutmy Mexican sage that I grow at my
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house. Yeah, so I hadplanted, had planted three more on my
side yard an inches. I mean, how deep do you think those pots
are? Three gallon pot is that'slike inches? Yeah? I mean powder,
yeah, you know, just powder. Yeah, no moisture. Yeah,
everything was so hydrophobic. Yeah,it's just like I mean, I
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planted them and then I had torun my soaker hose out there for probably
an hour. Yeah. Yeah,it takes a long time. Probably wasn't
enough water. It probably was not. You're right, it probably was not.
And if you're running a soaker hose, it needs to go right next
to where you want the water,not a foot and a half to the
side, because if the plant isnew, the roots aren't developed out.
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I guarantee you the soaker hose,the water's not going much side to side.
It's what it's what you're doing.You're going more straight up and down.
So oh, we've got another coupleof callers. John, good morning,
thanks for calling the WJBO lawna GardenShow. What can we do?
Hi? My name is John,And the question I have is, since
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we've had all of this drought andplants her own life support, there's a
product called super Thrived that was wardeda warfare. Oh yeah, ward for
being great. And I wondered thatabout that, and I wondered about things
like using a root stimulator in thetime that we're going through right now,
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is it worth the money. Theroot stimulator is more for something that's newly
planted to help stimulate the initial routeproduction. It also does have a mild
water soluble fertilizer in it with ahigher proportion middle number than nitrogen for the
plant to utilize the phosphorus. Andphosphorus helps fruits and roots, okay production
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flowers, So a lot of timesthe flower food you'll see a higher middle
number in the ratio. You haveto have some nitrogen. The plant has
to be growing in order to utilizethe phosphorus properly. If the roots,
if the plant is already established,I don't think so much. The root
stimulator is that because right now theproblem is not root production, it's lack
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of moisture. It's just lack ofmoisture. And would the super thrive help.
Well, I've used it. I'venever done a comparison back and forth.
I mean, it's only like afew drops per gallon. Literally,
It's like, I don't know whatthree drops per gallon something like that.
It's a it's a micronutrient and blend, it's a vitamin. Shut. Yeah,
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it's not the answer if you've gotestablished plants is to water well.
That may or may not help you. The uh you know, on the
package, I can still see it'sall these palm trees that were transplanted.
It's on the label something. Soyeah, that was the initial planting,
not once they were established. Sowould it hurt No? Is it expensive
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to use? No? Might ithelp a little bit? Yes, just
just in day to day. Youknow, sometimes I'll take a vitamin pill
just because I might be lacking alittle something. Yeah, And it wouldn't
hurt to put any of that on. Yeah. I don't think it's going
to make it a break it throughJohn, Yeah, Okay, well it's
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worth a try. I think.Think of something that you can use in
the winter time when you know I'vegot I've got some areas that I have
really worked on making sure that theyhad good soil and everything, and it
just don't grow well there. AndI've done the soul analysis, I've done
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other things, and it just lookslike it needs something. It's not getting
yes, yes, there, it'sprobably missing something. Yeah, I've got
a driveway with Nandina planet on bothsides of it. On one side I
don't do anything with, and thenNandina's almost seven feet tall on the other
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side, and I planted them atthe same time, and then I replenished
them when they went bad, andit just doesn't do well on that side.
Yeah, you're probably missing something inthat soul. And it's not uncommon
in construction, and when they didyour driveway, they could have brought in
a load of dirt from god knowswhere to backfill with that and scrape it
down. Might be different than thedirt on the other side initially, and
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you did some possible improvements to thatbefore you planted, but that still doesn't
change the base soil that it's in. So it's probably missing something. It
could be a different grain size towhere the moisture doesn't hold the same way.
It could be a minor element that'snot there that might be instrumental.
It could be that the organic matteris different and so some of the other
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micro nutrients that or would be availablethrough the decomposition aren't there. It could
be a lot of different things.But it almost always goes back to the
soil. So yeah, there's probablysomething different between one side to the other.
Okay, thank you very much.All right, welcome about here.
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So we're here for the last littlesegment of the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show.
Zane Mercer here from Clegg's me ScottRicca. And we've had some interesting
questions. We've talked about fertilization andbetting plants. We talked a little bit
about dead heading, how that canhelp rejuvenate things. Watering. Watering still
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so import and there's so many plantsthat are still under stress. Watering by
hand not the best thing. Justbuy a cheap sprinkler and put it out
there and just let it run.Okay, it takes a long time to
replenish, and how long. Well, I joke around, I tell them
to I have to do a littlehorticulture CSI, you know. So take
your shovel, let it run forthirty minutes, go out in the flower
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bed and dig a little bit andsay, oh my gosh, that only
soaked in half an inch, andso out going a little experiment. Yeah,
and at your own house, fromone bed to another bed could be
different. How the water moves throughit. That's very common. Although people
think that it's my yard, everythingshould be the same, that's not how
it is. So I mean,like I use soaker hoses primarily, and
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so I run them for a andit's a long run, so I don't
have the best water pressure, butI have everything tied together to kind of
help maintain water pressure. And Imean I run it until water comes out
the like rolls out the beds.For it'll roll out the beds for about
fifteen minutes and then it catches inthe as it just soaks in anyway.
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Yeah, yours isn't running down tothe street. No, you know,
it'll just go down my little walkwayto the front door. Yeah, but
it never makes it actually to thestreet. Right, And at that point,
most of that stuff gets absorbed bythe grass, right, and then
you have those big trees are pullingthat. Yeah, you've got big trees
if the soil hydrated. Yeah,but you can't almost you almost just can't
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over water right now. Our conditionsare extreme, so water fertilization on most
shrubs no finished, they're taking theirnap. If we fertilize now, and
we're cool and then we get awarm spurt. A lot of the plants
are tricking and thinking as spring,so they start to grow because there's fertilizer
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there. Then that new growth willbe more tender if we do have another
freeze after that point, so wedon't want to do that, which is
very interesting. So a lot ofpeople with citrus, we're finally kind of
teaching people that citrus are really heavyfeeders. That's finally soaking into some degree.
But on the back of the citrusfertilizer, it tells you to a
spring summer, in fall fertilization,and in baton rouge, we try to
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we do suggest that you do notdo the fall fertilization because late growth is
tender growth, and you can actuallymake your overall tree more susceptible to winter
damage by doing that last fertilization ofthe year. So it doesn't really hard
enough, that's right. The woodand stem are immature and more easily damaged.
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So so you know, ask questions. That's what we're there for.
You ask questions. No question istoo silly to ask, and even if
you're reading the labels, sometimes,as we talked earlier about geographic regions that
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label is not for our little geographicreas, so you have to ask questions.
I mean, the difference between theweed and feats that we carry absolutely
versus like Scott's bonuses. Right,they're geared for different lawns. Yes,
they are. So it's the samething. And some things have better advertising
dollars and others. So you seethat one. So, oh, that's
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that's what we need. Shade grassseed, you know, it's you know,
which we actually sell some of it, but that's not that's not suitable
really for us. It's sprouts spreadand then it dies because it's too hot.
So I want to and I knowit's a little bit. Yeah,
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we got just a few moments left, so I want to remind everybody.
We've got the open house tomorrow atthe Greenwell Springs location of Clegs. At
the Greenhouse what we call Color Division, we have like a half acre greenhouse
full of points setis. We'll haveSanta there from ten till and the the
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greenhouse is open from one to two. If you have any desire to see
what a raised vegetable bed can do. There are some raised beds as you
walk to the greenhouse that are justamazing. And the production you can get
out of a raised bed is justtremendous. I mean, and those beds
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have been there since pre flood.I mean, Ron and Alena could feed
oh yeah, a multitude of people, right, how well that grows.
And so if you have any questionsabout how to do that, come over
come see what a nice raised bedcan do. And uh, I don't
know, it's just inspiring to seesome of that. I walk people over
there all the time. I mean, they know how to grow some vegetables
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over there, they do. Theydo so betting plants, color fertilization of
your betting plants. You could dosome weed control in your lawn if you
need to. No fertilization in yourlawn unless you put out some riger If
you want to put rygress out,you still can. If we don't get
enough moisture, it won't sprout,so you'll have to water your little water
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water. That's right, have thewater. And if you need a Christmas
tree, we've got them. We'vegot them. So yeah, jeezus,
I don't know what else. We'vekind of gone over so gone over a
lot we we have. It wasgood. I wish people we're going to
be here next week. We're hereevery Saturday, four week tonight, well
not else. Yeah, the showwill be here next week. We'll be
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the best of oh the best stuff. Okay, but you can still listen
and learn something new. And wehave the free podcast on the iHeartRadio uh
with the wj B A Lawn theGarden Show. That's good, so please
continue to listen. We will beback to help you with your gardening questions.
Baton Rouge, have a beautiful day. Go tigers. Let's have a
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