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Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WGBO Lawn and Garden Show, brought
to you by Cleg's Nursery. Ifyou have a question about seasonal planting,
lon and garden concerns, all ourquestions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO.
That's four nine nine two six.Good morning, Benton Rouge. This
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is the WJBO One and Garden Show. My name's Zane Mercer, joined here
with Breden Bonadonna. Set it right. I know, I've been practicing at
home and we're with Clegg's Nursery bejoining you all for about an hour.
We're just enjoying this weather right now. It's finally fall. It is all
for the holidays or whatever you wantto call it, or as I refer
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to it is second spring. Yeah, yeah, I know. Well,
I mean, we've got all theChristmas trees up over at work, so
I've been excited about that. Butit's just you know, it's time for
the holidays, so I got tothink about getting presents and all that.
So speaking of the holidays, though, we've got a point set of open
house coming up, which I don'tknow if you haven't gone to it.
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It's a pretty interesting site. It'sover staged at our Color Division over up
at Greeneal Springs Road. It's rightnext to the Greeneal Springs location. Actually
it's November twenty sixth and it's aSunday from ten to two. It should
be next week if I'm not mistaken. And it's just incredible. Run and
Elena over there do an incredible job. They really do with grown Point Settus
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and it's just a kind of eyeopening you walk in that first door and
then it just from wall to wallPoint Settus. It's supposed to be like
ten thousand points set Us all together, he tells me every year, and
then I'm just like, I can'tbelieve it's that many. Yeah, it's
not a lot, but it's areal neat, real neat event we do
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every year. So there's a SantaClaus will be out there so you can
take photos with them. There won'tbe a actual photographer, but it's free
of charge. Kids can also writeand send their letters to Santa. And
supposedly he's got about twenty varieties ofpoints that is out there awesome, So
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it's real neat to see because normallyyou can't get quite that many range of
varieties, right, and we alsohave a bunch of Christmas cactus and stuff
that we grow out there as well. Don't forget the milk and hot I
mean hot chocolate and cookies. OhI didn't even get to the bottom of
the list. Yeah, so they'llhave hot chocolate and cookies over there as
well. So come out, bringyour kids. It's a great little toss
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on. So back to the otherthings that are going on in the landscape,
Branden, We've got a lot ofstuff starting to show color and stuff
for the you know, your typicallike your camellias are starting to bloom,
especially the all the October magic.You know. One thing that's uh that
I've seen blooming that I really thinkis really pretty is the uh that autumn
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chiffon encore. That's another thing isthe all the encore ilias. Yeah,
and a few of the other zaleasstill have some flowers, but all the
encores just put out so much color. Yeah, and they're beautiful, they
really are. Oh yeah. No, And it's just a range of pink's,
purples, whites, right, yeah, just kind of it's kind of
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similar color range on the camellias aswell. So it's just a real neat
time because I kind of wait forall my camellias to start flowering. Yeah,
that's really my mark of the holidays, you know. And it looks
like with weather we should get areally good bloom even though we had all
the drought. So what would yousay? Is your your favorite camellia?
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I really like one I can't getanymore. It was called Pink Perplexi.
It was just a dwarf version ofthe pink Snow. Okay, the pink
Snow chameleon gets like ten foot tento twelve. The Pink Perplection was like
a four foot grower. I reallyI like that. That October Magic Ruby.
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That's another one. It's like arustic red Yeah. And it's a
double bloomer. So the petals arereally cool. Yeah. So it looks
like we got a phone caller,Breden, so we'll go ahead and take
that real quick. Okay, Suzanne, how are you doing today? I'm
fine? Thank you. How canwe help you? I have a question
about formosa or azaleas. I wantto put in about what will grow to
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be about a thirteen foot loose edgeof formosa azelias. I live in an
old neighborhood with already have some inone part of my yard, and I'm
gone to the nursery several around townand the azaleas and I'm looking at all
have a lot of black spots onthe leaves and being told that that's just
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because of the the bad summer wehad, that it is. It's okay.
So what I want to know isif I get my zelias, how
many is elias should I I getto fill in? About to eventually fill
in a loose edge of thirteen feetlong? And how should I treat you?
I want to put them in nowI think better, Yeah, that
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would be ideal. As now,so there would be you could do two
to three of them, because theformosas get about they can get upwards of
like eight feet wide. Yeah,they get pretty big. Yes, yeah,
right, I keep mine. Ikeep mine. The ones I have,
I keep trimmed. Okay. Yeah, so I would do two to
three, you know, probably two, but you just looks funny, So
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I usually do three. I woulddo Yeah, I was thinking three.
Then what's the Tell me what's thebest treatment? Once I get them in
the ground, What do I doto maintain them? For? Say the
next year, okay, So wewe take it out the pot, we
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ruffle the root ball, all right, because you want to loosen that up.
We'll plan it all right, andthen we won't fertilize until spring,
okay, all right, So wejust kind of let it hang out till
spring. Okay, right, allright, and then once spring comes,
then you fertilize with a more acidicfertilizer. So there's a product by Fertilum
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called Azalea camellia food. I reallylike that. There's also I use that
on my own ones. Yeah,there's also, I think, but anyway,
yeah, we'll just put that downtwo to three times a year,
okay. And the black spots thatI'm seeing on the as all as they
are just that's it's called leaf spot. And you typically will see them in
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the nursery if because we overhead water, so we run those sprinklers overhead and
that water and it runs at night, and so because of that, and
then you know we do it everysingle night, you start to see that
form, especially on like your azaleasand your roses. Okay, that that
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makes complete sense. Nobody explained thatto me. Okay, one more question.
I just We just put three grantchygraybeards in our front yard and it
was done correctly. We did it. We did it under the supervision of
back Rouge Green. But I didn'task, and you just brought up the
question, what about fertilizing those?Do I wait till spring time for those?
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Also? Yes, ma'am uh,yeah, And you want to do
that because because nothing's actively growing duringthe winter right as far as like your's
trees and your shrubs, so wewanted to rest, you know, and
you'll have root development occurred during thattime. But you don't want to put
any fertilizer down because it'll force outnew growth upstairs, like all the leaf
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growth, and that'll just get burnedin the cold, and then you got
to cut that back, so it'seasier to just let it go dormant.
Okay, thank you very much.You've answered two questions. You're very welcome,
Suzanne. Take care. Yeah,that was a good question, yeah,
or multiple questions, you know,but I mean it brought up a
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good point. You know, ifwe're planting stuff right now, we don't
necessarily need to fertilize, right youknow, I mean, like my betting
plants and stuff, yeah, Imean it's still fertilized then, yeah,
but just everything else. I mean, this is the easy time. You
just put the fertilizer in the inthe back, you know, because we're
past the point that we want toput down fertilizer. And it's like you
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told the caller, you don't fertilizebecause you don't want it to start pushing
out new growth because that tender newgrowth will just fry when it gets cold.
Yeah, and then oh I gotto go and cut them again,
right yeah, So speaking of youknow, planting things right now, all
right, we mentioned we had camellias. We've got a good selection of color
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for the most part. Oh yeah, definitely tons of fox gloves, which
are oddly enough starting to flower.You know, that's just a weird sight.
Yeah, But we got I meanthe cyclomen, which is a neat,
little cold, hardy yeah plant.Aren't they a bald plant? I
believe so, Yes, they arereally neat. All I know is they
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do not like at a lot ofwater. No, they do not,
and they will let you know quickly, I know. So. But it's
a I mean, that is agreat little uh plant to just put in,
like have you ever seen the littlefence planters they hang. Those are
just phenomenal in those because they drain, so it drains real well, and
then it'll just keep on going untilit gets uh warm. Yeah, you
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know, I've tried to keep onlike into the warmer weather. They never
fare to well. Yeah. Wellit's weird though. They'll good dormant and
then we usually start getting a lotof rain. Yeah, and then they
just run. But it's a neat, little short lived annual down here,
and they put on such bright color. They're really neat. Yeah. And
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then you know, we've got tonsof pansies, your petunias. I've been
real happy with the super genious electionthis year, yeah, which is all
kinds of different colors. And thenI mean we still have all the really
good not the name of that.There's one that I keep seeing in the
bed and house that really catches myeye. And it's like a salmoni pink
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color around the outside of the pedalwith a dark like yellow in the middle.
They're beautiful. Yeah, no,it's just really top notch. So
moving on, we also have alot of hollies as well going and they're
starting to put on their berries that'ssomething that caught my eye just walking into
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the building to do the show thismorning. Was I think that's, uh,
what's what's should be some Savannah Holly'sNo, it's it's the the Yo
Pine. I couldn't think of it. Sorry, no, And that's just
a really good attracted and if youwant to get some birds in. But
yeah, that that thing was coveredin varians is beautiful. Yeah. And
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so it's just you know, we'vegot a wide range of things that are
going like starting to put on somecolor, starting to put on just a
little neat things. Yeah, thatare coming out right now. Just thought
about it. I hadn't actually givenanybody a phone number at all today.
You haven't, I haven't maybe that. Yeah, if you need to reach
us with a question, call complaint, It'll be four. That's four nine
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nine w JBO. I could dowithout the complaint, yeah, of course,
yeah, but you can anybody cancomplain about me. So, and
if you want to listen to uson a podcast, we're on the iHeart
Radio station podcast asked, you canjust key in on a WJB on Line
and Garden show. It comes rightup and you get to choose which day
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you want to listen to. Soif you don't want to hear butcher talk,
you don't have to listen to them. Yeah, and you don't want
to hear us talk, you listento but yeah, exactly. So,
But I wanted to kind of spenda good segment on fruit trees because it
is time to be getting fruit treesplanted. Yes, you know, everything's
going to sleep upstairs, so weneed to worry about the root development downstairs.
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So it's time to go ahead andget stuff in the ground. Is
there anything we should be doing touh, let's just say trees that you've
bought in the past that are alreadysomewhat established. Is there anything we should
be doing this time of year?Not necessarily, I mean, other than
mulching, you know. I meanif there's a little bit of pruning that
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needs to be done, but usuallyyou want to wait till that's a little
bit closer to spring. Yeah,you know, but mulching is going to
be key, just because we wantto insulate their roots really well, right,
you know, And a lot ofthings are hardy, you know,
but like some of your some ofyour citrus or not, you know,
but like your your blackberries, yourblueberries. That's your peach trees, plums,
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apples, all that stuff that's thatneeds to get in the grind the
cold they want. They want thecold. They need to get in the
ground and get as much root developmentas possible. That's pretty much the most
successful way I've been able to growany one gallon blueberry is got to get
in the ground in the winter.Yeah, to just get some kind of
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root development happening before we get hot, and all of a sudden they're growing
leaves and then they want to floatfruit, you know, and then it's
just all right, they're spending allthis energy up there instead on their roots.
Right. So but we've got we'vegot blackberries, blueberries. There might
even be some raspberries between the locations. Uh, there's uh was it elderberry,
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which there was a neat little thingto get this year. We don't
typically get them because they they're soprolific and they grow. They'll grow in
every single pot plant we sell.Yeah, the varieties we got in there,
they're a little bit more sterile,you know. They but even those
I've noticed, like coming out ofthe drainage holes, they start sending out
new shoots. So we just youknow, it's a neat plant, wonderful
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jelly, really good about with antibioticsand stuff. But it's just time to
get all this stuff in the ground, you know. I mean we've got
there's a great selection of peaches,plums, and apples for the most part.
So I noticed this time of yeara lot of people because everybody always
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says that this is a good timeof year plant because it's cooler. A
lot of people when they come inand they're buying citrus, they're really concerned
about like colder weather coming in thewinter months. Yeah, what are some
of the like the best ways toprotect a citrus. So my favorite thing
to do is actually to plant itin a tin gallon pot for that first
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winter, right, And I onlysay that so that it gets as much
root development. I want to doublethe root growth right for the spring,
and I'll put it in the groundfor a spring. But I just you
know, I may buy it inthe fall and just overwinter it in that
tin gallon pot that's not much deeperthan what it's in right now, but
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it's wider, so it'll root outgoing wide, all right, which is
what I need. And you justlike bring it into the garage or something
to protect it. Yeah, Nowlike your satsumas or your oranges and stuff.
If you planted them before then obviouslyjust I mean we keep them in
the ground. That's wait for them. You know. It's just if I'm
a little late, I just putit in a ten gallon punt, wait
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till next year. Would you stillneed to like, uh cover, like
use frost cloth on a more establishedcitrus tree. It depends what it is.
And honestly, I'm usually pretty reluctantto cover anything because I f I
fine, we do, we cando a little bit more damage if we're
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not vigilant taking it off. Yeah, And the uncovering it's the problem because
you can fry, fry the plantonce it starts. Yeah, I mean
it looks covering them with frost blanketis great and it will help insulate.
But if we leave it on andthe sun hits it, you're gonna cause
a bunch of burning. Right.So it's like you know, that vigilant
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when we've moved the citrus into theshade house to protect them from the colder
nights, the ones that are likeright up against the plastic on the shade
house yep. They'll fry in theday if we don't move them fast enough.
Yep. And so it's just andthese are like because they're babies,
you know, right, we getthese plants. They're five gallon container,
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three foot tall, three and ahalf, and you know that's a baby,
right, So we got to protectit a little bit. But I
find we get a little over zealoustypically, you know. I mean my
daycare ladies neighborhead plants covered for likeI think it was like a month and
a half. Yeah, that's probablynot the best. I know, no,
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but it's just you know, youwant to we want to take it
off first thing in the morning,you know. I think last year I
covered I covered my bedding plants twice. Do you have any citrus plants?
I do. I have them inthe backyard, but they're so big and
their satsumas, so they're very coldhearty. Oh okay that I don't really
I don't really bother with them toomuch. Yeah, you know, And
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it was just easier to the oneI had in a tin gallon punt.
I just moved that into the garagefor just I mean, it was two
nights for the most part. Imean, there was that the two nights
that it was I think sixteen orwhatever. Yeah, and then it went
up to eighteen for the next day, so I just kept them in the
garage that day. But I justthink if we if we're just vigilant with
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the frost blankets, yeah, everything'sgood. It's just when we leave them
on all day, you know,we can end up causing more harm than
help. Yeah. So the greatthing about every other cru or every other
fruit tree other than citrus, youdon't have to cover it. You know,
like your blueberries they love it.You know, your blackberries, well
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they just go dormant, you know. So and as far as the peaches
and plums, I just wanted tokind of touch up on. You know,
we do our pruning up in thespring right before everything starts leafing out,
our structural pruning. But like yourapples that we get in, those
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suckers are like eight foot tall,but we need to cut them down to
about five foot before we plant.Really. Yeah, you want to type
most of your citrus or not whyto say citrus and most of your fruit
trees, because you want them togrow outwards, not straight up like an
apple tree. If you don't typeit, it'll just go straight up and
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well, who's gonna eat those campon that hot No exactly exactly. Or
you can do like we did andyou can get the branches what we use
that like that green garden tape andtie the branches down to the trunk to
where it kind of weeps. Yeah, it's really cool looking and it probably
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worked out fairly well, yeah itdid. You can actually reach them,
yeah so, But anyway, Ijust wanted to kind of touch up on
fruit tree because that's always a funthing if you've got the if you got
the yard for it at least,yeah, so, and I wanted to
kind of double back if we couldon just like your planting, like your
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betting plant plantings and stuff. Youknow, we mentioned the fox gloves and
cyclamen, your petunias, your pansies, your snaps, right, but we've
got a gorgeous selection of delphinium.That's and that's one of my favorites because
you don't you don't see a plantthat's gonna bloom blue flowers very often.
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There's like three or four plants thatgrow here, right that bloom with an
actual blue flower. The Delphinium isone up on. Yeah, they really
catch your eye. And I reallylike the frilly foliage. Yeah, it's
a you know, it's almost feathery. Yeah, you know, it reminds
me of a I've got a bunchof Japanese maples, but it reminds me
of my dwarf. It's just veryfrilly when it first leaves out, and
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it's just you know, the kidslike touching it, you know. I
thinks it's cool. So uh andyou know, got the delphinium mentioned fox
gloves. Got a gorgeous selection atdianthus. Yeah, but you don't if
you haven't ever planted the Amazon dianthus, and that is just pristine. Yeah,
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they really are nice. I likethe little carnation ones too. I
think it looks like a little roseflammer. Yeah. I think we get
them from color divisions sometimes, youknow, those are in need. I
mean, you know, there's justso many different varieties of each one of
these plants, you know, sowe don't have a lot of a lot
of dianths. So sometimes you'll evenfind some that have a little variegation.
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You know. Michael Greenwood went bythe used to get the one. It's
like almost spiky leaves dianthus. Ican't remember the variety name, but I
don't know either. It almost itlooks like bermuda grass, right, you
know, but then it has theseflowers that pop out. So anyway,
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we also have a pretty good selectionof vegetables still, So if you hadn't
got some vegetables in or you youknow, got some room to put some
more vegetables, got a great selectionstill for the most part. I mean
there's a lot of cabbage. Yeah, there's no beats. You know,
there's a few things we're out ofjust because there's not enough square footage keep
them. But the cabbage has justbeen phenomenal. Yeah, I mean we've
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got extreme vantage, fast vantage.I think there's like four other varieties of
vantage. Not convinced they're not allthe same thing for the most part,
you know, they've got so sominor differences, right, you know.
But anyway, the I really likecabbage. It's usually mark of Christmas time
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and Thanksgiving because we have to makeyou know, sides for Thanksgiving and then
we do dinner for Christmas. Sobut you know, we got ten minutes
left. I'd like to just kindof talk about a few things that we
didn't get a touch up on onAs far as what we have in the
nursery right now, that's really nice. It's also a prime time to plant,
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so we've got a pretty decent selectionof Camellia japonicas. Yeah, we
definitely got quite a different cultivars,and lately we don't get the quite the
range we used to due to youknow, people retiring, companies shifting that
kind of thing. But we've gota great selection of three gallon and seven
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gallons still of all the like thegood heavy hitters, and then some mods
and ends that you can't see toooften La pepper Man or Her Professor,
Sergeant Charles or any of the newshios. For the most part, almost
every we don't have Pearl, butwe've got Jewel Jim, and there's another
one. I really like the newCEOs though, especially the h the gem
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that white one. And then we'vegot a Pink Perfection that's one that always
goes fast every single year. Yeah, and then that was it Pearl Maxwell,
which looks like the Pink Perfection buta little bit bigger flower. And
then one of my favorites that Ialways seem to notice a they sell pretty
fast. Is that purple dawn?Oh, that's a that's an old,
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old Camellia japonica, and it isit is a very pretty one. Yeah.
It's a neat flower too, becausemost of them will have that open
center, not that one. Yeah, and so as you know, I
think that's always cool because like thethe yellow center is really neat because it
adds a little bit of yellow rightto a plant that really doesn't have yellow.
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It's like just none a yellow bloomingplant typically. So then a ton
of Japanese magnoias if you want tohave that large gorgeous flower in the spring
as the first mark of spring.Taiwan cherries, we still have those that
again first mark a spring. Yeah, which those are only my favorite.
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Probably my favorite trees for the mostpart is the flowering trees you see in
the spring. Yeah, because it'slike, oh it's go time. I
like the yellow blooming Japanese magnolias becauseyou don't you don't see a whole lot
of those around town. But uh, they put on some, especially that
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that Judy Zuck put on some brightyellow flowers. No, I mean it's
vibrant. I mean you see it. You see it from the street.
Yeah, it's so vibrant when they'rein full bloom. Yeah, you know,
we've got a gorgeous selection of Japanesemaple still, you know, of
assorting sizes of one gas, Ithink a few one gallon, like mainly
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two gallon and three gallon and tengallon. So it's a good price range.
The tim Galen, I feel,is still the best bang for the
buck because it's like, you know, it's just under two hundred bucks.
But you get a very established,grafted plant, right, you know,
like very established. I mean they'retypically about five to six foot tall,
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you know, depending on variety,of course, And but the caliber of
the trunk is always nice, youknow. And it's just for something that
grows so slow, I'd rather paya price point for someone else to grow
it to that point, you know, to get a bigger tree. Yeah.
So but I mean that said,I mean the three gallons are really
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nice. Yeah, and there Imean I think they're right around like about
one hundred or just under maybe,and uh just I mean still a nice
substantial tree. It's just a slowgrowing tree, right, so I like
to get it to a better pointfor me, you know. But I
mean those are all showing great color. I really like that. I believe
it's called winterbury. I want tosay that's the variety and nay, yeah,
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And it puts on red. Allthe younger stems turn red during the
winter where it's like a coral wheretheir coral barkle. The trunk will turn
that kind of coral color, thesame kind of thing cool and you know,
so it just it's still good.It'll be a stick in the ground,
but it gets it's a colorful stickin the colorful stick in the ground,
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you know. So that's wild likethose. And so I mean,
we've got these Japonicas, the Japanesemagnoias, the maples, of course,
you know, we've got a tonof sweet bay magnoias that are really nice.
That's a cultivar called green shadow.That just I mean, it's a
it's a very vibrant grayish green.It's a weird like, you know,
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it's a weird color tone to it. A lot of people seem to be
confused as to whether they drop theirleaves in the winter. Top it depends
on the variety. What about theone you just mentioned, so that one
should hold its leaves, Okay,all right, but there there are a
few of a few varieties that they'rethey're considered evergreen because you have like two
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weeks that they have no leaves.They literally they'll dump the leaves and then
almost immediately emerge with new growth.So but there is like a you know,
a couple of week span where theyare sticks. But whereas other plants
that drop their leaves for months onend. Yeah, right, these are
just like a couple of weeks.So, and I think I actually like
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that one because the flowers really pronounced, and it has a the leaf has
a really nice silver tone on thebottom side. Yeah, so it's I
mean, it's a gorgeous, structurallyappeasing tree if you wanted just one really
nice specimen. So that's why Ireally like that one. Also, like
decidious trees need love to you know. But some of my most favorite trees
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are just situation They just I meana lot of evergreens, like you're I
mean your camellias, I consider thoseshrubs, but like your Holly's and you're
magnoias, they just don't put onin most of your well, let me
rephrase that. The southern magnoias,they just don't put on flowers in the
quantity. Yeah, you know thatI'd like to see, like a Japanese
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magnolia. It's there's like fifty flowerson the trap. It's just you know,
it's just covered. I want toI want to showstopper if it's gonna
flower, you know, I don'twant just like sporadic, Is there one
Southern magnolia that you would say bloomsheavier than the others, like the Little
Gem, I'd say the Little Gemor the Teddy Bear. And you know,
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they're probably pretty comparable honestly to theSouthern magnoia like the d Deep Blanchard
or the Claudio Wanna Maker. Butthey get they get so tall you don't
typically see them in full bloom.Yeah, you know, so they'll be
i mean sixty feet up in theair and you're not gonna see those flowers.
So but anyway, it's all perpersonal preference, right, Like I
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think the Teddy Bear is the moststructurally appeasing tree out of all of them.
I just like how dark that thebrown is on the underside of the
leaf that's almost black. Yeah,you know, they're really nice also,
like I think it's cute bear ears. You know. But anyway, it
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looks like we're about out of timetoday, but i'd like to thank everybody
for calling in today. Yes,it's always a pleasure going on the radio.
We keep breeding allie, you know, and I'm sure if y'all come
out, we'll sell you some Christmastrees, betting plants, whatever y'all need.
If you have any calls questions,you can reach us over at Leg's
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on Seagan Lane. Yeah, yeahsany of our other three locations. Yeah,
they want to come visit us though, you know, but everybody's knowledge
would all location. Yes, Sowell, look y'all have a great Saturday
morning and afternoon and we'll see y'allnext time. It's the first people by
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