WWE WrestleMania 39 Preview: Hour 1 - 03/31/23

Jon Jansen, Jason Fanelli, Vaughn Johnson, and Nick Piccone preview WrestleMania 39!

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whenever there is a big pay perview, whether it's the Royal Rubble,
Summer Slam or wressel Mania, gottaget the Roundtable together and that's what we
have done here on the line changespecial edition of it. The Roundtable is
back and it's WrestleMania time. WrestleManiathirty nine is here this weekend two nights

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of WWE WrestleMania Action, and ofcourse we got to break it all down
with the best team here on FoxSports The Gambler. You can follow us
at Fox Pageill Gambler. My nameis John Jansen, host of this program.
You can follow me at ja Jansenthirty four. But the Roundtable is
back my guest Jason Finelli. Youcan follow him at big Man Finelli and
also check out his podcast Chief Stakesand Controllers podcast. Nick Pacone you can

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follow at Underscore pecone and also VonJohnson at Von M Johnson on Twitter,
and they are both Nick and Vaughanthe host of the Shooters Radio podcast,
one of the best podcasts, notone of It is the best wrestling podcast
in all of the land, andyou can check it out at Shooters Radio
and Twitter accounts as well. ButWrestleMania thirty nine is here. Fellas how

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we doing? I'll start Nick?How we feeling this is? Is this
one of the more exciting medias ina while? I guess, I don't
know. It feels like there's momentumthis time around. Uh yeah, And
I think for me, this thisspecific WrestleMania is kind of sold on one
storyline just because it's been one ofthe best storylines we've seen w W produce

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in twenty plus years. Maybe,And that's not to say the other matches
weren't built up okay, but Ithink they pale in comparison. You know,
you have the two women's title matchesthat could have been built up a
little better. You have Johnson andAustin Theory, which you know, I
questioned that build a little bit giventhe promo seeing it late on Austin Theory

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completely burying him. But going intothis specific WrestleMania, I think the best
storyline they've done, which obviously theblood Line really carries this whole show and
the emotion that we've invested through themonths, the emotion that you have Kevin
Owens and Sammy's ain. The reunionwas kind of weird a little bit,

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but we were expecting it and it'sbeen awesome, So yeah, I mean,
like I'm excited for it. It'sbeen one of the better built Manias
in terms of the main storyline,but I think, you know, some
of the undercar matches could have beenbuilt a little better. So it's like
kind of interesting going into it thisway, Like as long as you get

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the main draw right, then likeeverything will fall into place. Like,
yeah, I've been doing in youknow, week to week because I want
to see what's happening in the bloodlinestoryline, And yes, I agree with
you, like everything else has notbeen built the best Charlotte Flairria Ripley has
not been very good, so Ihaven't liked that. I actually liked Rayan
Dominic. I like sett All alittle bit, and I thought it was
pretty good. Yeah, the rayand Dominic might be the second best built

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story of this entire thing. It'sreally good. But yeah, it's the
bloodline storyline, and Vaughan Nick saidit's the best storyline in maybe like twenty
years. But I'll ask you where, cause you guys, you guys do
deep dives into old wrestling pay perviews, like you know, WrestleMania's where
does this kind of fall? Thisstoryline and how big it is? How
does it compare to some of theother great storylines in WWA. Oh,

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it's up there as far as especiallythe last couple of decades for sure.
Like I was thinking of like thelast maybe like ten years of like how
excited I felt going into a WrestleManiaAnd this is easily the most excited I
felt going into a show, evenas including shows that I've actually attended in
a long time, I was notthat excited to see Rock Versus Scena two

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or Roman Reigns versus Brock or whatwas twenty fourteen? Oh, I was
Daniel Brian. His saga was prettybig. But like that, Yeah,
that's like the last time I wasthat excited. That was nine years ago.
So yeah, it's been about adecade since, you know, we
felt this excited about it, andit's dope. But on top of that,
as excited as I am for thisyear's show, I can't help but

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think about this time next year,we'll be all excited for the show that's
happening in our backyard in Philadelphia andSouth Philly at the Lincoln Financial Field,
and there's gonna be all these independentshows here, and of course you got
the big two night show of coursewith WrestleMania, but the whole week it's
gonna be gonna be crazy. It'sgonna be lit here. So I'm already

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excited about that a year in advance. But yes, very excited for this
show as well. Man, youabsolutely just took the words out about I
am very excited for next year.That's all I thought about. The first
indie show I put on this year. I watch all the indie shows during
WrestleMania weekend. I'm the first oneI put on. It was eleven am
their time, which sucks that it'son the West coast, so like all
these things are later. One ofthe shows I wanted to watch, it
didn't go up until three am thismorning, but to it, yeah,

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I know, for the culture.I wanted to watch it so bad.
Three o'clock in the morning this morning. It was like, I can't do
that. But two first show Itune in, and all I think about
is this time next year, I'mgonna be in Philadelphia. So yeah,
I'm really excited for that. Jason, This Bloodline storyline's very good. I
know we're excited for media next year, Philly. What are you excited about

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for this weekend? Though? Aswell? I don't. I'm like in
the middle here, so like,I love the Bloodline storyline. As we
mentioned, I personally am really excitedfor the Hell in a Cell match with
Edge and ballor because he and CellI'm in Yeah, I mean, even
though the build has gone on waytoo long and Judgment Day versus Edge is

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played out. If you ask me, Edge in a Hell in a Cell
has a very good track record.People forget that one of the best matches
in ever to ever happen in SaudiArabia was Edge and Browlins in the cell.
So I'm hoping that we get alittle bit of that magic again with
Edge and ballor especially if Baler bringsback some form of his demon persona,

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whatever that might be. Also,there was a picture floating around that I
saw this morning of Gangrel at theairport, so we make we got move
back to that. Actually go backto seeing legends and airports, like he's
gonna be at the show. Ilove that. I love that favor.
Can I take it a step further? Can I put my tinfoil hat on
here? Yeah? We know I'mthe Altar Bridge guy, right, everybody

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knows that. Yeah, guess whereAltar Bridge is gonna be? April first,
their last show of the tour untilthey picked back up in May.
They're going to be in Anaheim,California on April first, So if the
wait do we know it's so it'sApril second, So night two? Right
are they night ten? Yes,let's go so April second. Wonder where

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a bridge could be? Oh,they're in town. Guess what, guys,
do you want to play WrestleMania?I don't know you could do that?
What if they played both songs,by the way, like loser loses
the altar bread song, how aboutthat one, that'd be dope. That'd
be hilarious if they both played both, I'm gonna be mad if it doesn't

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happen. It's gotta happen. They'reThey're in California, They're in Anaheim.
It's April first is their last show, then their next one is until May.
This is it. This is thetime. I've been waiting for this
for years. This is a postto happen in twenty twenty, and it
didn't happen. This is it,This is finally it. So I'm ready
for it. Jason. That passionright there, boy, passionate plea.

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I just wanted to add on toJason's point of like this is big,
this is gonna be and my favoritehell of a Cell matches Edge and Undertaker
at SummerSlam, Like this is gonnabe really good, and I know the
build, but at least can Igive a credit for the build at least
ending in Helena Cell, Like thisis a long essue per year and it's
we actually get a justified Helen ashell. Yes agree, So I feel

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great about that. Me too.I do agree with that, but yeah,
ultimately, it's two nights of thebiggest wrestling spectacle of the year.
I love when it comes around everyyear. Admittedly, Roll Rumble is my
favorite single event, yep. ButMania is Mania, and I'm gonna pay
attention as much as I can.Yes, at least I like Mania weekend,
everything surrounding the weekend leading into it. So I think, what we

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gotta do. We gotta go rightinto night one because we have two nights
and we always go over. Sowe're gonna be on time, hopefully,
just like w w E. They'regonna be on time. They're not gonna
run over, right, They're gonnabe completely you know, good time,
not run over. This is gonnabe five hour shows both nights. Hopefully.
We'll start off though night one,and I'm gonna start from the bottom
and top of these cars WWE putout. I don't think it's the order,

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but at least we can stick insome kind of order here. We
have a WrestleMania Showcase match happening inNight one, Bronze Truman and Ricochet against
the Street Profits against Alphae Academy againstthe Viking Raiders. That's a lot of
meat. That's a lot of manin that match. Where are we going
in that one? I'll start withit on for one. I like these
WrestleMania. I like to call inthis like a WrestleMania showcase. It's like,

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what's an excuse to get people onthe show, and we'll call it
a showcase. Okay, it's justa showcase of talent. Great, but
I think Raiders it might be,It might be, but whatever, it's
fine. I might go Viking Raiders. I feel like they need some momentum.
This could be a good spot forthem. But honestly I do I

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don't have a great gauge on thismatch at all, but I'm gonna go
Viking Raiders because I think they coulduse some momentum. Jason, I can't
believe they got eight guys together justto progress the story of otise, because
you know, Maxim male models aregetting involved somewhere. They're not gonna miss
a spot like it's in character tonot miss a spotlight like WrestleMania, even
if they completely beefit when they're inthat spotlight. Honestly, I could see

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the Raiders winning this as well.But I'm leading street profits for some reason,
just because they've been kind of quietlately other than the build to this
match could be a pretty cool,you know, big win for them,
even if it's like a last hurrahbefore Ford does his singles thing and Dawkins
does his singles thing. If that'sgonna happen, I could see that happening

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as well. Or they could turnat each other and implode. That's also
a possibility. But yeah, Ithink I think Otis and the Maximum Male
Models are going to advance the storyline. Something is going to happen with the
Street profits. The Viking Raiders coulddefinitely win, and Stroman and Rickinshet are
just there. Nick. It's funnyVon used the M word momentum. I'm

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really seeing. Yeah, scared fora second, bro, what I was
listening? You know? Wait?Wait? Wait are we going with this?
The only team in this match thatI consider having some momentum as Bronz
Strouman and Ricochet, and I thinkthey're like a pleasant surprise. They were

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just kind of thrown together, butthey're getting some big reactions week the week,
and I could see them coming outof this with the win, especially
if the winner of this match willeventually fight for the tag titles at some
point. You know, if Koand Sammy win, if if I could
see Braun and Ricochet and Kevin andSammy having like a great tag match,

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really, any any of these tagteams could probably have a great tag match.
So is or Ko and Sammy,but really good tag teams. Yeah,
I feel like Sherwin and Ricochet havea lot of momentum behind them.
You hear their reactions every week,So I'm going to go with them.
I'm gonna I'm gonna say they willbe next in line for a tag title
match. Yeah, I'll follow youon that one, because I think it's

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a very interesting pairing. You getthe high flyer and this big brute.
It is surprising that they're getting thereactions because like broun Strum and Ricochet both
have done really nothing and I thinkfor the most part, I've actually just
like been whatever about Stroman since he'scome back. But I guess together,
you know, it makes up fora lot. You know, Ricochet,
this high flyer, but now youpair this big brute with him, and

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it's a really interesting. I thinkthat was always work too, right,
like Caine and Daniel Bryan, althoughthat was more like personalities clashing as well.
That was really funny. It wasstill it was a big guy and
a small guy, like I don'tknow. That dynamic just seems to it
seems to work well and it's kindof fun. From the Stroman standpoint where
he always hates the flippy floppy guyson Twitter and now his tag team partner

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is the definition of a flippy flopper. He is his literal his name is
Ricochet, like he's ricocheting around thering, Like, come on that that
little dynamic is kind of funny.It is so yeah, I'm going with
Stroman and Ricochet as well. Nextone the Mysterios, This has been I
think one of the more well built. Again, I think it's other than

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the bloodline. I think this isthe one of the more well built storylines,
which also means like Ray Ripley's involvedin everything, which is kind of
wild and just how you know bigshe's been with Judgment Day, the Dominica
Ray Mysterio. They're taking on eachother. I think the match is gonna
be great. And uh, sinceI know he's had some thought about this
guy in the past, I'll askyou, Jason, what do you think

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about Dominic Mysterio Ray Mysteria match.Oh my god, this is what I
wanted. Okay, good, Iam a convert. You are you are
man. You've seen the lights,don't We don't need the dumb button ready,
you didn't need the dumb button lasttime. Thank you. I never
cursed. I was just wanted to. It's loud. The only thing I

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wanted from Dominic Mysterio was personality,and now he has it. He is
the perfect sniveling bully heel like whenRay finally snaps and hits him and the
only thing you can do is backup, like wait, what it was
a Nelson months moment. It's perfect. That's pxactly what I wanted from.

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He's going to be right, He'sgoing to be ray Mystereo and Raymonds Stereo
retires, and I think he takesI think he takes Mysterio's mask, and
that's part of how that's part ofhow he gets to win. He takes
his dad's mask. I mean,come on, how else did you do
this? He can't just beat him, He has to take it to That's
a heelish way of doing it.But that's also a way of being like,

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I don't know this, like that'smy father's legacy. Like it's almost
like he's beating that, I think, And honestly, what happens he might
go up here. They haven't.They haven't done this as a mask on
the line match. I kind ofwish they would have though, even though
like to me that we add somuch stakes to it. It's like if
he if Don wins, he takeshis mask, Ray has unmasked and that's
it, he retires. There isa lot of symbolism behind that that would

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that would work really right. Itwould be great and then Dom, you
know, you know, would bethat bad guy winning. But like he's
the person he took the mask.Nobody could have mass Ray misterio except Dom.
It'd be great, good, it'dbe great. But I don't know,
maybe, you know, maybe theyhave other things in mind, maybe
they are going to do something tothat extent, but they haven't put the
mask on the line officially in thematch, so that'd be my thing.

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But I think Dom should win.I think Dom has been obviously real.
Ripley is in the beginning of judgmentday with the reason why you wanted to
look at the judgment day other thanthat you didn't care. Then they added
Dom, I think he honestly helpedelevate the judgment day. That's another one
that like works really well. Ithink dom has been fantastic since he turned
heel. In my opinion, Ithink the entire time, he's exactly what

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he should be, which is aspoiled brat teenage or not teenage. He's
a grown man, but spoiled brat, rich kid who grew up you know,
in the rich family under you knowhis gray mysterio. Obviously he's never
grew up poor who went to jailfor right for a couple of hours.
You know what I'm saying, Right, that's exactly what he should be.
That's exactly how you should have reacted. And also he cowered before he went
to jail. I can't survive injail, and all of a sudden he's

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a hard and thug. Right,So I think it's been great. I
have no issues with Dominican stereo.I think he'll he's growing into his own
I think he'll get better with time. He just needed time. Obviously,
he's young, and they put himon TV probably too soon, but hey,
he figured it out. He's sayingit was either saying a swim and
he's been swimming. So put himon TV against like the best, right

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exactly, And you thought he wasjust gonna keep up and of course he's
gonna stick out like a sore thumbin those situations. Yeah, and the
fact that he was able to toturn that into what this is and like,
actually take lessons from that and keepbuilding. Like right, I got
to give the Creed. I'm proudof him credit, Yeah, right,
credit. I think he's come along way in the last year and change
and I think this is his momentto beat to beat Ray, retire Ray.

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And like I said, if itwas me, Ray would have to
unbask and dom is the person todo it. That'd be so good.
All right, Nick, any thoughtsfor you on this spot. I know
we're all kind of dominant on here, but if on said the word again,
mask my God, to make sureyou're right, Bro, what are
you talking about? Is it notcoming through? And then am Amory every

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time somebody, everybody but Hoole Punkeris the GOM. What's going on?
I actually didn't even think about theI didn't even think about the mask until
Vall brought it up. So ifthey decided to go with maybe a rematch
a backlash, how about that theytook away the WrestleMania from WrestleMania backlash.
I know, I'm very happy aboutthat. But yeah, fortunately they could

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possibly do a rematch with the maskon the line. But if they really
want to shock everybody, I couldsee Dom stealing the mask, Ray covering
up, and Dom getting like akind of a Stiviy type pin there to
win. But I would also kindof like him to win, not dominant
fashion, but like, uh,I guess the word is convincing fashion to

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allow Ray to retire. But againdepends where this story goes. Is WrestleMania
the end of the story or thebeginning of the end of the story.
So I'm interested to see where theygo, But I definitely think Dom could
use the win a lot more atWrestleMania against Ray next. Also, Dom
is always crapping on Ray in interviewstoo, like the it doesn't sound they

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went to the WrestleMania store and liketrashed it and like put the put the
black spray print over race face,like it's perfect everything is perfect about this.
He's look, he's bought in completely. I love it. It's a
good way to get back at Dadtoo, Like, can screw you Dad.
He doesn't mean he's got to haveso much fun with this right now.
It's got to be great. Yeah, it's got to be great for

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them. So next we have Sethfreaking Rollins against Littlegan Paul. I guess
it's gonna be a good match.I just I don't like the guy.
I'll tell you what. I don'teven like the boo him. I just
I don't like the guy. Idon't want to watch him. I don't
want him on my TV. Idon't care that he's good at wrestling.
So that's my thoughts, Nick,what are your thoughts? Uh? He

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knocked out Seth twice already. I'veever seen if your movie is going to
be knock out somebody? I mean, just based on that, you gotta
have Seth Win here and Logan Paul. Apparently his contract is up after WrestleMania.
Well we will see, uh whathappens is moving forward? But uh,

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yeah, sethil Win here. What'sthe me I used to pray for?
It's the Meek Mills somebody used topray for times like this when his
contract runs out. Oh yeah,that's great. Uh, Seth Rollins has
to win. He has to win. He can't lose Logan par I mean,
I guess he could, but Idon't see a reason to so.
Seth Rollins. Also, I'm watchingthe video Dom and Ripley tear up the
story. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. They

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messing up. That belt was likesix hundred dollars. Probably, Hey,
let Dom just have at it.I love it. I think it's great.
Good Jason, Jason was mutic Jason. No, Seth Rollins has to
stomp the living crest freaking sorry.Yeah, like you. It pains me

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to enjoy watching Logan Paul wrestling becausehe is objectively very good at it.
He is objectively sucks. So it'sa it's a weird dichotomy, I find
myself. And if he does onecool spot like he did at the Rumble,
or that wasn't cool. That spotsucked. I thought it was I
thought it was different. I thoughtit was dumb. It was so stupid.

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It didn't help anybody, It didn'tdo anything. It was stupid,
it didn't have anything to do withthe match. It was actually pretty stupid
wrestling psychology stupid, Like it wasdumb. I thought it was, like,
actually, one of the dumbest spotsI've seen in a in a royal
rumble ring was fine, popped thecrowd, that's all you need. Yeah,
they're all sheep, that's how,that's how. That's how jaded I

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am about all this. But no, I really thought that spot was dumb.
Seth Wins with a curb stomp wearingthose big red boots. Yeah,
please, that would be amazing.This match next, I'm excited for it.
The build has been whatever I thinkfor some of these it's like that,
But I'm excited. We got BeckyLynch Leader and trist Stratish against Damage

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Control, which I think has beena really good team. Uh Vaughan,
who we got here? I thinkthis is this is gonna be such a
fun match. I think, man, yeah, it's gonna be. It's
a tough call because I could seeyou know, Trician Leeda and Becky having
a moment winning the match and theyget to, you know, have a
moment at WrestleMania. But I thinkDamage Control needs a win, man.
They need a win, even ifit's by cheating. They need something,

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And then wouldn't this be kind ofthe catalyst for Bailey as well? Yeah?
She needs They need something, Theyneed something going there, They need
someone mentally if you're gonna keep themtogether at least. So yeah, I
guess I go with damage control.Jason. I am with you on damage
control needing a win. I waswatching a YouTube culta Hollock I think it

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was with their WrestleMania predictions and somebodycalled damage controls story from when they debuted
to now a stale fart I thinkit was or something of that nature where
they came out like gangbusters and justlingered and lingered and lingered and haven't done
anything. So hopefully what you dois you have them win here at Backlash,

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You make it a title match,they get the titles back, and
they can go from there and havesome momentum. There's that M word again,
but yeah, that's what I woulddo, jeez, guys man,
man, Yeah, I love that. That's our bit now, nick uh,

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I'll go damage control, just becauseI do believe they need to win
as well, But I don't knowLeada and Beckyre the tag Champs. Right,
So does Leada lose like two matchesin a row to lose the titles?
I don't know. I don't Icould see them winning as well,
just because I think the best matchthat they lose might be Leada's last.

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Obviously, the TI titles aren't onthe line here, but uh oh,
I guess if I was forced topick, I would choose Damage Control.
But this is more of a more, more of the one, the one
I'm most confused about. Let's see, let's go with that. So the
next one the USO, Sammy's andKevin Owens. We have talked about this,

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so we can just do predictions startingwith Jason and Nick and vond.
Predictions for this match New Tag Champs, simple as that, Okay, like
it? Yeah, yeah, yougotta. I mean, what else are
we here for? Okay, yeah, that's that's got to be the finish.
That's got that has to be Sammyand Ko have to win. Oh
wow, that's it. Well,like you said, what else are we

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doing here? What are we builtto? Okay? Yeah, I guess
you guys are right. I wasgonna go to the USOS, but man,
no, it all sounds very confident. No, no, no,
no, no, I think we'regonna have uh, we got to have
the right decisions. I guess inmy mind like we are waiting for the
shift. I guess in the maybethis is one. Maybe this is the
one small shift that continues the storyfurther and Roman wins. Nah, this

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is not a yeah, I remember, this is not a mismic Man production.
And totally I know he's supposed toyou know, doesn't have that much
input, but like at the endof the day, I have more faith
and triple ah to make the actualright decisions. So Ko and San are
to take it. I take itoff of every We'll get the night.
Yes. So okay, so theright decision here to take it off of
the users. Okay, I'm sayingyou guys are you guys are probably right.

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I was thinking usos, but Samy'sand Kevin Owens, I think I
can I can get behind that.We'll go with Charlotte Flair and Rhea Ripley.
Is it Rhea's time? I thinkso. I think this is definitely
like, this is a this isa moment for Rea, and dude,
she's earned it. She has beenfantastic. I think she's been she's been
great since she won the Rumble,and even before that, the Judgment Day,
it was it was she was kindof like tacked onto it and a

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part of it obviously, but forher to kind of just become the leader
like that was that was her,Like she was good enough and so good
in this that she became kind ofthe face of the Judgment Day what she
wasn't supposed to be, and thatwas just organic and really cool to see.
So I'm going Ria Nick. Yeah, and this is a wrestlemting a

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rematch as well, so Rio's gotto get her revenge, right, So
she's got to win. Yeah,vun greed, She's got to win.
They've put too much time and effortinto building her up. It'd be really
goofy to know she's taken advantage ofit, like she's she's yeah, she's
done well with it. She's andshe's she's been this way, she's been
talented. It's not like this isa secret. It's just she finally got
the room and the time to shine, and now you got to cash in.

(27:55):
Got to cash in on this,and it helps the Judgment Day as
a group too. Them doesn't haveto win this Sssarily Finn could lose,
but if Domastereo and rear Ripley winBoom Judgment Day, it's still still a
thing. Jason. If Charlotte Flairwins, Vince is back ahead of creating
Vince, he's daring an injury toray a mid match, forcing Charlotte to

(28:18):
win. If Charlotte wins clean,something is wrong. Creea. I agree,
because again, this is just anobvious decision that has to be made,
you know what I'm saying, AndVince Vince would swear at the last
minute at all surprise too. Andpeople just people might say that obvious matches

(28:40):
like this and some that we maytalk about later and some that we have
already talked about. With the obviouspeople winning makes WrestleMania predictable and not.
But I would argue, you thinkthey're gonna win because they're supposed to.
They're supposed to sense in the storyline, makes sense. You think they one
to swear. People are WrestleMania three, you don't know they win because I've

(29:03):
been watching these movies. I'll equateit to like to John Wick, like
it's obvious he's gonna kill everybody,Like nobody's watching that movie because like,
man, it's John Wick, gonnakill the bad guy, right, you
know he's gonna kill everybody, buthe's gonna kill every single one of them
he killed. I saw John wentfor he killed hundreds of people. Yes,
like he's in creative ways and it'sfun. Exactly this, Yeah,
I would, I would be afraidof spoilers, but you know what,

(29:26):
I'm not spoiling anything I got.This is John Wick. From the first
fifteen to twenty minutes of the firstJohn Wick movie, I realized that he's
just gonna kill people. Everybody,like everybody that comes across him, he's
going to kill. So I thinkthis is like this is the obvious,
but it goes with the story.And the story is really good, right.
You still gotta tell a good storyat the end of the day,
don't you. The surprises like Idon't understand why that's become a thing and

(29:47):
wrestling we've got to get surprised forshocking surprises are not good. Get him
talking, get him talking about howgood your product is. That's it exactly
how that the story is right?Right? Not that's what I mean,
Like that's what I think you canYou can make exactly predictable happen, but
like you can't force unpredictable. Ithink that's what they've been doing a lot.
So John Cena, quick, yeah, go ahead. I watched that

(30:08):
Dominic Raya tearing up the store thingtoo. You think they showed that lowrider
because that's what he's coming out in. That'd be tremendous. That'd be tremendous
awesome, All right, John say, I dude, that video is so
good. So I'm so glad wehave mentioned this over and over again.
I loved it. But John CenaAustin theory. I don't know if it's
the main event. I think it'sactually I heard it might be opening.

(30:29):
It's opening. Yeah, yeah,so this is the opener. John Cena
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slash Events. Yes it has toYeah. No, after that promo,
he buried awesome theory, he cannotbe awesome theory and take us title at
the day. No, I agreewith that. I agree with that part,
but I noticed that on the cardthere are seven matches Night one and
six matches Night two. I couldsee scene A winning and then Open and

(32:01):
Challenge Night two, and then thatcould be a surprise whoa. Okay,
okay, but you are running therisk of bearing the hell out of Austin
Theory. Are two matches in twodays, which also the placement on this
card is should be noted like usuallywhen you start off a show, it's

(32:21):
obviously a hot match. Usually Babyfacestend to win openers. Yeah, so
that's another thing. But I stillthink Austin Theory has to win this match,
even if he cheats. He's gottawin. He can't just lose if
he cheats. I'll give you that, but I think or I mean,
you could do the same thing.Austin Theory wins and then he does the
I beat Sena, so I'll dothe Open Challenge and there's your surprise either

(32:44):
way. I think the US titlewas defended twice this weekend, but also
two I think Austin Theory, evenwith that promo, has come back from
worse like being in that Vince storything, cashing in on the US title
and not winning it, and he'sstill rebounded. I think if they were

(33:07):
to give a scene to this win, they trust him to come back from
the perceived burial. If that makessense. I guess if you have seen
a win and you know that Theoryis gonna get it back, I could
buy that. Sure, Yeah,I could buy that. Theory has to
work his way back. He hadto learn the lesson that Scena taught them.
He learns it, he wins itback. So I'm I could buy

(33:28):
that. Okay, I think weuh, I think that was pretty good.
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna gowith Sina. I think Sena's gonna
win it, and I don't knowif he's gonna drop it the next day,
but he'll drop it soon. ButI think Vaughan, you you kind
of hit the nail on the headof why. I think it's opening for
a reason. You want to getthe crowd excited. I think Scena is

(33:49):
gonna come up and we're gonna getthat first big pop at WrestleMania to open
the show. So also, itcould be a WrestleMania with a first theme
song. We hear it's John Cena'sand that's I don't think that's ever happened.
Oh, that's a great point.That's that's ever happened, right right?
Oh that was bro that was yearsago, Nick, I'm talking about

(34:12):
years ago knowledge. Also, I'mtalking about his current Hello. He didn't
have this you can hear Marken Jr. In the second album. He didn't
have this current theme song back intwo thousand and four Get You Back Straight.
So it wasn't it wasn't My timeis now? Okay? Well,
Also he's had that was well done, well done. I'm talking about the

(34:35):
whole Horns theme and all that.That's what I'm talking about. My bad,
my bad, Nikki. One vitalthing for a psychological thing. I
want alst the Theory to come outdress as peace maker. That'd be cool
as hell. Yeah, take somestatus. That's that's pretty good, all
right, bu it up. Next, this is the WrestleMania Round Table.
We're gonna have a bonus edition.A couple of special guests, including Canada
Bag Marken rej are gonna be joiningus in the second hour as well for

(34:58):
the bonus edition of the round Table. But we still have Night two to
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(35:30):
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(35:51):
Back to the line. Change Foxputs the Gambler a special edition of a
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as always my name John Janssen,Guess, Jason Fonelli chie Stakes a Controller
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Night two. So we have aWrestleMania Showcase match again here live Morgan and

(36:13):
or Cal Rodriguez against an Italian Shatzieagainst Ronda Route, Ronda Rousey and China
Basler. Why did I miss that? I don't know. That's a weird
thing to put Ronda in, AntonyDeville and Chelsea Green. Wow, Ronda
in the undercard? Now, howthe mighty have fallen? Yeah? What
the hell? Good lord? Sevonyou can start off since yeah, what

(36:34):
the hell came out? So?Yeah, I don't know what happened.
They're just like we They literally wentto an we don't have anything for you.
So here's the WrestleMania showcase. Man, they didn't have anything for a
washed UFC UFC fighter. Now you'rea washed wrestler in the back because we
don't not that many people care.So ah boo Rondo versus Rhea because I'll
confuse the viewers. Okay, allrage, it's just back in charge.

(37:00):
Oh my god, I'll go toRonda and Basler. I mean they did
too bad as they should beat everybodyup anyway, So I'm going with the
Karens, Sonya and Chelsea. That'sliterally what I want to happen because that
would be more entertaining. Chelsea's actuallyfunny with it. In the women's tag
division, would be more entertaining thanRonda and Shane had just beating everyone up.

(37:22):
But I mean I will be entertainedeither way, but one of those
two teams has to win, andif I had to pick one, I
want to see Chelsea and Sonya overRonda and Shana Jason. I love the
Chelsea Green character, so anything shedoes I support so good. But I

(37:42):
don't know if you read this,but back in February, report came out
from Davy Meltzer that Ronda requested tobe on this tag run with Shana.
She didn't like she wasn't it didn'toffer this to her. She asked for
this, SHANEA hasn't been doing anythingelse and squandering her so good. Yeah,

(38:02):
partly you mean she couldn't come backfrom that vampire thing, no way,
stop it. And partly because theythought that she thought that the quote
octogenarians running creative at the time screwedup her feud with liv Morgan, which
I would agree with. So soundslike this is something she wants and I
think they're going to give it toher with a wind. So Ronda and

(38:23):
Shane it for me. It's funnythat I almost bury myself just mentioning that
vampire angle. You guys should justlike shut the hell up and stop talking.
So that angle was so so badthat she could just bit into somebody's
neck? What those her first thingsshe did ever did on the main roster?

(38:45):
All right, this one will goover quick. Just give a winner,
because I don't know who cares aboutthis brock Lesner and Omas, Jason
rough Nick uh Omas. I thinkit's gonna be a spect I think it's
gonna be more of a spectacle thanwe think, and it'll be like super
entertaining. Probably I'll just go homes. Yeah, I'll take my three minutes

(39:08):
dipping my chips in Buffalo dip Vaughn, I'm going brock, Yeah, I'm
going. Can I change my loope? No, it's locked in, all
right? Edge, Finn Balor helland I shall Edge in a hell in
a cell is great. Ultimated's gonnalead him out. It's gonna be the
coolest moment ever, and he's gonnawin. I don't know is Edge Is

(39:29):
Edge gonna win here? This isI'm interested to see where you guys are
gonna go with this one, becauseit's been such a long feud, and
I think, like I think Vaughnsaid it that you know, finn Balor
doesn't have to win because Dominic andRhea they can win, and really the
judgment day will be just fine.So I'll start with you again, Vaughn,
Edge, Finn Balor. I thinkEdge wins this. I can see
that happening. I still think,though, like for us, who needs

(39:51):
to win. It's Finn Balor andhe Edge's beaten the daylights out of him
at every turn. Him and Damianpriest. We've been saying it for so
long about Finn, like he justI know, but it's like Scott,
at some point got to happen,right, So, and he's got the
Demon probably gonna come out this onetime that the Demon's gonna come out.
I completely forgot. It's in thehell in the cell, you demons belonging
Hell. It's kind of the youknow, they kind of go together.
So he comes out, it's gonnait's got to be you put over.

(40:15):
Now, you have to put overthe Demon, right, get the Demon
back on TV. That was moneyback in the day. So let's get
that. I hate that they everwent away from it, right, So,
like, so let's get that backout there. Edge We've been there,
undone that. As much as Ilove Edge, we've been there and
doone that. What else can wedo with Edge beyond this? If he
gets to win, he's gonna challengefor a title. I guess he could.
We got Finn battle challenge for atitle. How about it. Let's

(40:36):
go to the Demon. It's musicagain with like the Demon, that exactly
that's money. I forget what theywere. I think they were in like
Europe. And he brought out likeJack the Ripper stuff and like, oh
it was so good, Jason.I thought Finn was successful against the Edge
in singles competition. Didn't he winin Philly Extreme No Brough, I thought
they I thought he lost and thenFinn got heat. Maybe i'mdge. Edge

(41:00):
said I quit because they were gonnahit best like one on one, like
like they got me. He hasgotten the upper hand over Fin a lot,
even all the time, that wasa unique circumstance. Yes, yeah,
I think honestly, I think Edgeputs the young guy over here.
I do puts the more current guyover he Yeah, I say, I

(41:21):
don't know about young I feel Ifeel like part of if you go back
to when Edge came back in twentytwenty, I think part of the reason
he may have wanted to do thatwas not only to fight these current stars
Randy Orton notwithstanding, but also toput some of them over. Like last
Yeah, Edge like an old schoolwrestling guy. Man. If he has

(41:42):
a chance to put over talent likehe'll definitely do it. And by the
way, Finn is forty one,right, that's very hard. He's not
that far away from Edge now.So I do think I think Edge is
going to restore the good name ofthe demon here by putting him over.
That's that would be my leaning.Nick. Yeah, I'll go Finn.

(42:06):
Uh I think quietly the Judgment daywill have a hell of a WrestleMania.
I think they need it, Likewe won't. We won't really think about
it until you know, raw whenthey do a pro will be like we
went three and oh maybe Damian Priestwill win a Battle Royal. I don't
know. I don't even know ifthat's that's the one. That's so cool
When a team like that wins,they don't even have to say anything the
next day. They just they arejust out there in the ring, and

(42:29):
just their presence and the fact thatthey won pisses people off. And that's
I love that. You could haveEdge Leaf for a little bit and you
know, make another one of uscome back down the road. But yeah,
I I go, Finn, Finn. Let's go to the Intercontinental Championship
triple threat match. This one mightactually be even though like I'm not big

(42:51):
on Seamus, this one might bea banger because Seamus and gun Throw had
good matches. Now you had DrewMcIntyre. That's a lot of hard hitting.
Right there, we got the BangerBros. And the match, let's
go. I cannot even describe thematch any better. It's the Banger Bros.
Against Nick. I would like tosee a title change here, but

(43:15):
I don't think we will. Ithink the champertains Gun's gonna be going after
titles. Yeah, I mean that'strue. I would love to see him
do it well as I see Champ. We haven't seen that wins. I
feel like Gunther would be a reallygood first one. Then you gotta beat
Gunther though that's early, but Iwill say I would love for gun Throw

(43:36):
to break honky tonk Man's record.But I think Seamus has got to get
this win head. The whole storyis about him not winning this title yet.
He can beat Drew McIntyre to doit, and he could spend something
out of that because they're good friends. Oh he pinned, He pins Drew
McIntire, neither upset at each other, whatever, But I think Shamus has
to get the belt. They exactlyIs this one of the matches that has
a chance to steal the show?Oh yes, Oh yeah, for sure.

(44:00):
Seamus and uh Gunta had a crazymatch last year class at the Castle
one of the greatest title matches I'veever seen. Yeah, yeah, Nick,
I completely agree. I thought itwas so good. Jason, are
you as high on this match aswe are? Absolutely? But I think
the ultimate winner here is gonna beneo sporing. When they're all done,
they're gonna have to rub it allover their bodies to avoid infection. There's

(44:21):
gonna be more red skin in thismatch. Then there will be paint on
Finn Balor's Demon. It's Oh mygod, we're gonna kill each other.
I can't wait. What demon,oh demon persona is gonna get. This

(44:42):
show is gonna get the f cC is gonna have a wild time with
this one. The amount of almosthere, I'm gonna you're an email.
This isn't serious. Sean Brace isgonna send me a very long email.
Yeah. No, I think Ithink they're going to absolutely beat the living

(45:02):
hell. UT's for all of ourenjoyment. Yes, And I do think
Seamus is going to get his win. He's going to get his the title
it's always eluded him at WrestleMania.He's going to have that big stage,
that big moment. The crowd's goingto go crazy for him. I hope
his reign lasts longer than zach Rydersdid. But you know, I think

(45:22):
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Considering how old he was, andthere was some rumors in like the mid
twenty tens that he might be thinkingabout retirement, maybe this is his last.

(46:06):
He just got married too, Yeah, just got married, I do
think, though, I don't knowif you guys can remind me. Has
Shamus had like a big WrestleMania momentwhere he like got a win and people
were like, yeah, Shamus.I don't recall that. He Oh,
I forgot about that. You knowwhat's a good thing about that? No,
that's I don't count that. Youforget about that because it's more Daniel

(46:28):
Brian, Right, that's not Seamus'smoment. That wasn't Shamus's moment. That
was about Daniel Bryan. Oh,Daniel Brian. Yeah, that was a
Daniel Brian moment in my eyes.So, yeah, Seamus has his time
where it's about him at WrestleMania.Far as off the top of my head,
I don't recall him having such amoment, and this could be one
for him. It could he hehad that that was like a WrestleMania moment,

(46:49):
a clash of the Castle. Eventhough he lost, you know,
he had that standing ovation that again, one of the greatest matches ever.
So he at least he has that, even though it's not a WrestleMania moment.
I can't, but it would becool to see him win. Yeah,
as much as I don't like Seamus, it does. It does feel
that way, and I'm actually kindof rooting for it. So if I'm
rooting for it somebody that is typicallynot like Seamus in the past, then
you know you got something good here. So I would like to see Seamus

(47:12):
and again, I think Gunther andAndrew Mcatarrey just fine. Whoever takes spin
and I think Gunther can go onand do some bigger things after this.
So I'm excited to see what hecan do, because he's been great.
All Right, we got two morematches, Bionca bell Air against Oscar Speaking
of steel Man, Night two hassome bangers. Whoa Bianca bell Air,
Oscar? Jason. We have twoabsolute just studs in the ring, incredible

(47:37):
wrestlers. Man, where are yougoing with this one? This is a
this is a fun one. Jason. Did we lose Jason? Damn it?
I was muted again? I thought, I thought Jason versus his microphone?
Who wins? Nick the Coon?I'm gonna go with the microphone?

(47:58):
Yea, the microphone? Yeah uh. I don't think you bring back Osca
in the Kana evil clown persona tohave her lose at the first WrestleMania where
she has that also makes up forwhen she first debuted on the main roster
and lost at her first WrestleMania.You could fix that here in this new

(48:19):
different attitude. Bianca's had a nicerun, had some stumbles along the way,
but I feel like if you lookat the whole thing, it has
been a successful one time to letsomebody else have a turn. If you
ask me, if you want torematch it backlash and Oscar wins that too,
that's fine. But then let's getsome more contenders in there. Let's
get some new blood in there,some new fresh matchups. I would pick

(48:42):
Oscar to win this nick Yeah,I'm gonna go Oscar. I'm gonna say
this is her official heel turn.I guess she's kind of been a tweeters.
She hasn't been like a heel,hasn't been total babyface. But I
could see her going full here heelhere to get the win. And I'd
like to see it kind of likea trilogy here between Bianca and Ostas.

(49:04):
I don't. I don't want thisto be like you know why I want
that is because Bianca is so physicallygifted, Like really they're like Charlotte and
Reya, like you would say physicallybecause like maybe came up with her,
but even then she's she's the mostphysically gifted. I like that Oscar is
like the the out of ordinary characteryou know that has you know, the
mist and like it's just something thatis difficult for Bianca. You know,

(49:27):
it's just a different kind of matchand a different evolution, I guess of
you know, instead of being thestrongest, and she's always the one that
is putting others on the ropes andyou know, she's always taking control of
the match because she's just it wouldn'tmake sense if she didn't. Like,
I feel like Oscar's just a reallygood pairing with her because of her kind
of out of ordinary stuff. Man, you were a good point there.
She's because she could be like greatmood to to Bianca. Belaire is like

(49:51):
Sting almost Mudo was always the guyto keep Sting off balance and that would
could be the same for Oscar andBianca. Butlaire, I think them go
Oscar though, But I think ifyou we have a lot of title changes,
we at least we've predicted some.If you're gonna have pin point one
match where I think the title stayshome, uh maybe this one, yeah,
I would, But I'm going withOscar because they could do this match

(50:13):
again. Like it's not like Oscaris ever gonna be buried like she is
she's she's made. She's really goodcharacter, and everybody loves to watch Oscar
and her matches. She when whenyou're that good at wrestling, like Oscar
is like, everybody's just gonna watchyou almost no matter what. And I
feel like she gets the you know, obviously she has to win at some
points and she has to look good. But she's won that everybody's like,

(50:35):
oh, yeah, that's gonna bea great match because Oscar is in it.
So I think I do want tosay, maybe it's Receecy bias,
but you know, we watch RussellMANA twenty two for the latest Shooters Pod
Deep Dive, everybody thought Triple Ais gonna be John Cena, and John
Cena won, So I could kindof see this in a similar way for
Bianca, where you know, we'regonna expect her to lose the title at
some point, but she keeps winningjust to build up that Cachet is one

(50:58):
of the best women's champions of alltime. Perhaps I don't know if that
happens this weekend, but I wouldn'tbe shocked to see Bianca win. But
I'm my official person, is gonnabe Oscar? Yeah, I think I'm
going to go Osca because I actuallythink there's a lot of juice with this
story and with with these two twowomen, I think there's a lot and
you can have another match at SummerSlam, I think with these two,
and I'd be completely fine with that. So I don't know. I think

(51:21):
you could still further the story withBianca, but I'll just say Osca for
that. All right, main eventtime and this match. I'll ask this,
how excited are you guys for themain event? I know we talked
about the bloodline storyline, but tome, this feels, this feels huge.
And I know WWE has tried toVincent Man a lot in the past,
Like they he tries to make itfeel big by getting like, you

(51:43):
know, like brock Lesnar. Theseare two guys like you know, having
rum and Raines has been main eventand he's been huge, But this isn't
you know, part of that reallyold guard. I know Cody rohas is,
but he was like mid card guyand Stardust. But this feels this
feels refreshing and epic and this feelsabsolutely massive. So I'll ask you that,

(52:04):
Nick, your thoughts coming into thisbecause to me, I feel that
there's a lot of weight to this. The only trepidation I have is if
the show strings along and the crowdis just not as amped up as I'd
love it to be for the mainevent, because I feel like I feel

(52:25):
like this crowd could play a hugerole in the enjoyment of the match.
One. This isn't you know againa Daniel Bryan Batista situation from twenty fourteen.
Everybody loves Cody's still still get hugeovations every week. Huge yeah,
man, and listen, he's pushingproduct. They'd be stupid not to,

(52:49):
you know, put the title onhim right now. I don't need the
thousand day Roman Reign's reign. Youyou know they did it with the nWo.
They I mean, they messed itup, but the the progression of
the storyline was, Okay, arift in the nWo, they split off,
and then they do that. Icould I don't necessarily know if I
see a rift in the blood Line, but you know, you got to

(53:12):
eventually tell the story of what happensin the blood Line when they finally lose
all the gold, and that couldbe progression of this story because then and
on Monday Night Raw, it's Basicallythat story is built around roaming Roman losing
his s like absolutely losing on everybody. So like we eventually got to get
there, so why put it offnow Cody's red hot. I don't know
if you're gonna have a better timeto pull the trader on a title change.

(53:37):
Uh, you know, Cody isthe guy. I love Roman.
It's man, It's it's either way. I think these are both guys that
are main event in champions Like,I don't know if if there's a right
call here, vaugh Am I wrongin that? Or oh there's a right
call. There's a right call isto get coded that title on Cody.
I mean, like you said,you know that there's not two part time
guys. He's not too old timeold guys, a kind of guys.

(54:00):
These are two current guys added inthe main event. And it's amazing what
a great story can could do.You know for Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes.
You would have never thought this fivesix years ago this would be a
Wrestlemaniam main event. But everybody's convincedbecause of the great story that WW is
told with not just Roman but alsoCody. Cody. Absolutely they've told a
great story, told a great storywith him, and the fact that you

(54:22):
know it was dangerous at the time. The fact that he wrestled with that
torn bicep and you can see visiblysee the bruises on his chest put him
over more as a babyface. Isa great booking decision. It was a
terrible health decision, but a greatbooking decision. I think that's a visual
that's still imprinted in people's minds whenthey think about Cody did an action figure

(54:43):
torn as they should, they shouldand whatnot? Right, So I'm saying
that's in the visual that you'all thatwill never escape people's minds. Like Nick
said, this is the time.We can't delay, you know, labor
this anymore. As far as Romanpassing this torch to Cody, Cody,
like you said, the numbers dictated. He embodies what they want in a

(55:04):
main eventor he looks like it.He feels like he left WW some time
ago to get to this point.He knew he was more than just stardusts
right, and he went away.He reinvented himself and look at him now,
he is ready. There are alwaystimes with like Roman Reigns when he
first got to the main event andat WrestleMania against Brock in twenty fifteen,
there was a debate of whether hewas ready or not, and there's this

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constant analysis about whether Roman was readyfor that spot, and some people thought
he wasn't. But I don't seehow you go look at Cody and twenty
twenty three and be like, nah, no, he's ready. It's his
time. And how long can hecarry the momentum for a year or so,
I don't know, but for rightnow, you got to pull that
trigger. It's got to be Codyrollers that win that title. How they
move forward with the bloodline, we'llsee. But obviously, like y'all said,

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we got to get to a pointwhere Roman loses his mind slowly but
surely, and that's where this isgoing. And again we talked about it
earlier. Predictable isn't bad. Weknow where this is going with Roman RNs.
This is about Roman if anything,as much as it's about Cody.
It's about Roman and his not onlyhis descent, but his descent from that
pedestal and into madness. So I'mhere for all of it. But again,

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Cody has to win at WrestleMania Jason, I can't really add much more
to what these two fine gentlemen havealready said. Cody has to win.
Cody, I think you mentioned thathell on a sell match. I think
that did a lot for people whomay have been on the fence about him
coming back to WWE from AW solidifiedhim as Okay, he's here, he

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means business, he's here to stay, and now I think is the time
to pay that off for the peoplewho are in on Cody Rhodes and what
he can bring as an ambassador forthe company is the face of the company,
so on and so forth. Iwould like to see Roman and that
storyline too, where the bloodline hasno more goal and they're not at the

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top of the ladder anymore. Ithink Roman and Jay might have an unfinished
business there too. Uh, Sammycould pull like a I Told you So
sort of thing. There are manyways that it could go, but it
all starts with Roman losing the title, and that's why I think Cody has
to win. I can't believe I'mthe one that like I think Roman should

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win. I can believe I'm theone the one that has been crapping on
that. Yes, I think thereis. I think the chase is gonna
be the continual chase is gonna beso great. And this is one where
I think if Cody loses, youknow, I don't think he loses his
main events at US. I thinkstill like the chase of you know,
the chase of legacy, the chaseof his father's legacy, the chase of

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being a WWE champion, Like doyou pay that off a backlash? Do
you pay that off at wrestle Mania. I think you could pay it off
for like SummerSlam. I think Dustywe got We're paying off Dusty Rose the
American Dweam Dusty Roads. I gottapay that off A but again, that
chase, like the eight of tryingto fulfill that legacy or trying to to
create your own under the shadow ofthat, Like I think there's so much

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more you can do with that.If you're not gonna do this at a
wrestlemenia, well, I don't know. I'm one that I when I see
these runs, I like to keepthis as long as possible. I think
one of the best runs and I'mgoing really dirty and like in the New
Japan stuff, one of the greatestruns I've ever seen recently was Kazuko Okada.
When you have like a three yeartitle reign as the ig WP or
IWGP champion, I messed that up. But the IWGP champion and he had

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three years and he won all thesematches, and every single guy he faced
was a made man afterwards, andthey they were better because of it.
But it's just it feels so muchbigger the longer you go with it,
and I always just get so hesitantto take the title off somebody. If
you're gonna pay off this dest realstoryline. If you don't, if you're
not gonna do it at wrestle marnyou gotta do it like a great American
bash in the stadium, and yougotta have like all the old NWA guys

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there too, Like that's the onlyother spotsler have to have the Rock and
Roll Express have a match and somethinglike that. That's the only other way
you know to call Off shows upand does his accent again, Like we
just need That's what we need.Other than that, it's at WrestleMania,
or maybe it's at star Kade.They do star k They could do it
in Greensboro. Whatever you want todo. But unless that's it. It's
either American Bash, a Great AmericanBash, or a Star Katee. Other

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than that, it's got to bea WrestleMania. That's it, all right.
I think that was well done.Good conversation, fellas. That wraps
it up here for the WrestleMania RoundTable. It always goes by so fast.
Jas Fonelli again, you can followat Big Man Finelle, Cheese,
Steaks and Control is a new episode. I'm sure he's gonna be talking all
things packs East that we went toover in Boston, so I can't wait

(59:35):
to listen to that. Also,Von Johnson you can follow him at Von
M Johnson on Twitter and Nick atUnderscore pecone and you can get all the
Philly stuff from Nick Pocona. Itdoes great job posting on the videos and
radio calls and all that. Butalso Shooters Radio, so make sure to
check out the Shooters Radio pod.And you guys have coming out of WrestleMania
twenty two Deep Dives, so lookingforward to that as well. All right,

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