Cowboys Crosstalk: Antwon Woods | 2025

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Speaker 3 (01:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
I'm joined by my one o five foot Defan teammate,
Blake Elliott. As always, we've got the three time Super
Bowl champion, six time pro bowler Nate Newton with us
here and our special Cowboys alumni this evening is a
seven year NFL veteran, former first team All packed twelve
and spent three seasons with the Cowboys, where he was
Rodmaronelli's favorite player there for a little while, l like

(01:41):
one of his all time favorites. It is defensive tackle
Antoine Woods. Antoine, how you doing tonight, man?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I appreciate you all
for having me.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Absolutely, it's great to have you back here. And I
see you got the you got the LA hat on
and what we always like to talk about everybody's journey
to the NFL and and how they ended up getting there.
And you were so But who grew up in a
rougher part of the Los Angeles area. I know you
grew up in Baldwin Village, yes, And you've talked before
about having a you fell in with the wrong crowd
and then you had a moment of awakening I guess

(02:12):
either right before high school or while you were in
high school and that kind of changed your trajectory.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Yes, uh, yeah, it was just growing up, you know,
the challenging neighborhood in Los Angeles, you know, not a
lot of resources, and you know, just dealing with what
comes with that type of neighborhood. You know, a lot
of corruption, a lot of poverty, and it just you know,
things like football that gives you, you know, an outlet
to be able to you know, move on and see
better things in life. So definitely fortunate I was they

(02:37):
will to be good enough to play football and just
to experience little things that got me out of that predicament.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Not just good enough to play football.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
But I remember there was a player I want I
won't say who was, but there was a player coming
out of college about ten years ago, and I knew
the college coaching staff really well that dealt with him,
and he had some problems. He went undrafted, but he
ended up with the team. And when he was there,
he got just kind of when a wall left. Never
was able to see his career through to the end.
And I remember asked his coach and said, what happened

(03:06):
to him? While, like, you know, he was so talented,
And he told me, said, you know, for a lot
of those guys, they grow up in the hood and
they end up loving the hood a little too much,
and and and they they get to this level. Even
once they're here and they've made it a little bit,
it's hard to stay away from it, and they feel
the need to get back. What kept you from going

(03:27):
back to that lifestyle that you really fell into at
one point? What kept you saying, no, I'm focused on
this and this is what I want to do.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Really honestly, I was the rare few that had a father,
you know, So even though I would go to their
own direction, I still had a father to chastise me,
you know, so it always kept me on a straight
enough narrow to never go into a deboard, to never
get in the worst situation. So definitely blessed enough to
have a great dad to make sure he was always

(03:56):
on me. And it's just you know, being with the
right crowd. You know, certain neighborhoods, like when you are
a real resident and you know a lot of the
people in the neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
They don't and they see you doing good things.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
They would be mad at you for you know, wasting
the opportunity or you know, embarrassing your family and not
taking full advantage of an opportunity that most people in
the neighborhood would pray for. So it's about having the
right community, the white people around you, and it's just refocusing, bro,
Just refocusing because it's not easy. You know, we all

(04:29):
love what comes with it's a family thing, you know,
but it's just being around the right people and then
making and constantly making the right decisions over and over again.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Nate, you, I know you you're path to the NFL.
You talked about how hard you had to fight to
get to where you wanted to be and and you
know you had We talked last week's had too, Taul Jones,
who was talking about him and Randy White going to
bat and telling Jimmy Johnson, hey, don't don't give up
on this guy.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
He's gonna be there.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
But you got caught in Washington and ended up in
Dallas and then stayed around the league for a long time.
Do you remember seeing any of those guys when you're
coming up with like man, if he would, if he
could just lock in, he would he would be able
to stick. And he just he never found that focus.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
You know what, I'm gonna tell you something that's just life.
You see guys all in your neighborhood. These guys he
probably know that could have been on this level, basketball, football, track,
what it's just, that's just life, you know. I tell people, Uh,
it's stories like that come and go every day. It's

(05:29):
guys on this roster right now with the Cowboys, you
can get about five of them.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
That it's life. But what I like what he said.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
Is that he had not only his father and mother
and father that always tried to push him in the
right direction. He had a community. That is what is
missing in most of all of these kids right now.
They don't have a community. They don't have a school
or a community that backs them. You heard ed last
week say a lady sold her car, her Sedan, her

(05:58):
nice car to go out and get a used station wagon.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
It was the community. They weren't gonna let you fail.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
Even though he was running with the boys, I understand
that he still had to walk that thin liud okay,
I'm I hang with y'all, but I got to be
in I gotta go do this. I can't let this
person down. So it's yeah, I'm happy for you, man.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
How much did that help you too?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Because I mean DeMar DeRozan, I know from the NBA,
he's told the story before about how he said he
knew that he grew up in a bad neighborhood, but
he knew that there were always people there who were like, hey,
we're looking out for him. Like you said, don't step out,
don't cause problems, like just follow your path because you
got better than this. So how much did it become
not just people looking out for you, but you being like,
I'm not gonna be I'm not going to disappoint what

(06:41):
they're working to help me achieve.

Speaker 7 (06:44):
Well, it becomes how I actually look at this a lot,
especially years ago, dealing with the job Moran situation, you know,
and things like that. I think it's a it's a
difference between certain people that grew up in the neighborhood
and certain people that was actively, actively involved in the neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Some people are just a residence.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
So yeah, you lived in the hood and you was
a resident of the hood, and then you make it
and it's like, oh, yeah, I made out the hood,
but you never was actively in the neighborhood. So that's
why you see a lot of guys that make it
and they still seeking validation from the hood, and which
is which.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Is not the way to go about it.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
But when you were as a person that was actively
in the inner in your neighborhood, and everybody know you.
And now this lady knows your dad because he was
actively in the neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
It's different, you know.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
They see the opportunities, they see Okay, now you're doing something.
So now it's not only your father and yourself keeping
you accountable. You have people in the neighborhood keeping accountable.
Had I had a struggle with this because I went
to usc usc Is five ten minutes from my neighborhood,
right in the worst of LA So it was challenging

(07:56):
because I want to practice. I'm going to class and
then no more free time. I'm going to hang with
the homies. And then it took you know, one of
our old g's his name Michelle Dall, and he started
to see me come around too much, and he told
me it was like, you don't like you're not you
can't be half one foot in, one foot out in this,
like let us do this.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
We want to we and these.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Guys right here want to be where you at, Like,
don't mess that up trying to hang with us or
be over here, like let us do this. Hang around
in the hood all day, you take your butt up
to school and be in class and being around that environment.
So it was guys like that and people around me
who was like a constant reminder, and it starts to
stick with you, like how much of a fool would
I look like if I just messed up this opportunity?

Speaker 9 (08:39):
And Twine, I'm curious about this when it comes to
a financial situation when you're in the league, and then
even after the league, how do you deal with when
you go back home, they see you on TV, they
see you making money. How do you deal with shelling
out money that intermediate family might be different, but the
homies maybe, but the grandma cousins and being able to
say no but still keeping that relationship.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
You know, you know what, I really love this conversation
because when you're a real person, you don't.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Have to deal with that.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
I've never ever had a situation or to go down
for a financial of having to pay homies no, because
when you really grow up in the area, it's like,
you can't. I'm one of y'all. What do you look like?
Why do I need the responsibility to pay you money
or to be cool? It's just just paying for validation.

(09:25):
That happens to the guys who are just residents who's
still trying to seek But I don't have to seek
validation because I walk the same walk and I talk
the same talk. I'm just so happened to get an
education and play football. So I never had that situation.
I never had that because I'm really from an area.
I don't have to pretend because more people will talk

(09:45):
about it more than me.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
I don't have to broadcast Hey.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
This is one I'm from the hood.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
I struggle, no.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Everybody and more people talk about that more than me
because when you actually go through it.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
It's the realness of it. So I've never had that situation, bro.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
But I also remember you were You were one also
who you were just giving back to, to your friends
or whatever else. You would always go back and get
back to the community.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
So I know that.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
One of the things I remember one of these off
seasons when you were here, you went back to Baldwin Village.
You had like a block party that you threw and
you put on How important was we're doing things like
that to you to just say hey, thank you back
to this community that helped keep me where I needed it.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
It was my way of giving back to my community. Right, Yeah,
I can go right here in Frisco. I can go
right here in Dallas. But I didn't grow up in Dallas.
I grew up in La So it was my way
of fan thank you to my community, to the parents,
to a lot of my friends' moms that watched me
grow up, that watched me run these streets, that see

(10:43):
me made it that I actually know. You know, easy
to just donate to a cause or just be a
volunteer here, but these people has literally seen me my
whole life. They know my entire family. So it was
my way of giving back to them. I say, look,
it's Fourth of July. I'll take the stress out, everybody.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Just come.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
We got our works, barbecue, backpack, giveaways, everything for the kids.
Let me just take the stress off the community. We
had probably over five hundred people there. It was two
hundred people from Cowboys fans and USC fans, and then
there was three hundred gang members and people active in
the community. So it was being able to see that

(11:22):
entire environment together, like, Okay, I got people. I went
to USC with people I grew up in one neighborhood
with the people. Scared the park because there's so many
things going on, so it was being able to have
that and it turned out great. It was definitely a
blessing and someone I'll never forget for sure.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
That is the voice of former Cowboys defensive tackle Antwine Woods.
He is our guest tonight on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
We've got Nate Newton here as well as always and
my one to five through the fan teammate Blake Elliot here.
We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Let's talk a little bit about Antoine's time here in Dallas,
how he ended up with the Cowboys, and how a
conversation with Rod Marinelli really locked him into place and

(11:59):
sustained his NFL career.

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(15:29):
Pro Bowler, three time Super Bowl champ Nate Noon here
with us and our special Cowboys alumni this evening is
seven year NFL veteran defensive tackle Antoine Woods. Antoine, thank
you for joining us again. And you know you you
came out of USC. You've already made mention of that.
And I just had to ask you if during the
break if you had a good Coach O story, because
Coach O obviously was their coach on the defensive line.

(15:49):
I'll tell you, Nate, my favorite coach O store I've
ever heard. It's the one he tells. He told Dan
Patrick that he said he used to recruit kids to
USC and he'd go out to this pier. I can't
remember which one in California, but he said start telling
people like, see that that's Tom Cruise's house there. They
started pointing out houses and then later on he to
tell people was like I had no idea if that
was their house, or trying to get him the Hollywood
experience out here. But you know it was a nice

(16:11):
closing finishing piece. But uh, Antelina, you got any good
Coach Old stories from your time?

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Oh? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
Uh, it takes back we all know Coach Old. One
of his specialties is recruiting. You know, we know how
to recruit really well. So I take it back to
when I was coming to the US. See, I was
getting ready to come there, and we did like in
home visitors when the coach come to your house. You
know obviously like we've been talking about. You know, I
live in a rough neighborhood. You know, we had roaches
growing up. Like, so I spent the whole day kind

(16:38):
of prepared and then just getting ready for coach Holds.
So we're cleaning up, trying to make sure the house
is clean and we're well off. So it gets to
what he's telling me. He's outside, So now I'm panicking.
So I'm like, oh, man, like, no offense. It's like
white coach Oorjron's outside in this predominantly black ghetto neighborhood.
So I'm like, oh, man, let me hurry up and
get outside so I can kind of, you know, ease

(16:58):
the awkwardness. So long story short man, fast forward. I
come outside coach osorans in the front man. He has
like ten people around him in like active hardcore game members,
and he's like, I'm looking for a big antwine Woods
and I'm like, what the hell sho I come out?

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Man?

Speaker 7 (17:19):
It just tripped me out how I was just paranoid
for him, and he actually was very comfortable and he
actually just rung the energy that just attracts people. So
from then, from that moment on, I just knew, like
that was my guy. And besides Rob Mannelly, he's been
one of my favorite coaches.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
I love you.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
You get you get the natural transition there. So you
went to USC, you ended up going undrafted, ended up
with Titans for a couple of years. You got to Dallas,
and you were somebody who in all honestly, whenever you
were looking at twenty eighteen and people were probably making
their roster projections at the beginning camp, people didn't know
who Antoine Woods was here, and then they probably didn't
think as much about it. But I know you had

(17:56):
talked about that when you were here. You used to
tell a story of Rod Maryonnelli coming to you and
telling you like, there's no reason you shouldn't be on
an NFL roster. But you got to make sure that
you're doing what you need to do. Talk about that
that talk you out with Rod mayon ally and just
the impact that he had on you, because so many
guys always talk so glowingly about Rod.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Yeah, definitely a blessing man. That guy's man. He's special man.
Definitely a blessing. But it came back to the workout.
I came to a workout here and obviously Big Cat
and Rod they put me through a workout and they
seem like, Okay, this guy is not right like I was.
I was working out like I was pissed off. So
they end up signing me. As we're walking off the field,

(18:35):
Rod maryn Nelly pulled me aside. He said, he said,
there's no reason why you shouldn't be on an active
NFL roster. He told me, don't eat your way out
of NFL because I was heavier no. I was in
Tennessee where I was a three four no sackle. I
was playing for uh dick Lebau. I was a zero nos.
I'm like, bigg you know, so I'm three thirty, so

(18:55):
I'm I have because you have to please your coordinator,
you know, so I'm big. And then Rob Marynell, I'm like, well,
I definitely won't eat my way off the NFL. But
the fact that you see that I'm for sure not
about to eat my weather the NFL. So I made
an adamant to like, all right, just the guy need
me a lose weight and mother lose weight. And I
immediately just got on it. So I started practicing with

(19:17):
the team, just started showing flashes, and he gave me
a goal.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
He was like, man, you need to lose weight and
we think you can be all right. So I said,
all right, that's it, like just lose weight, like you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
So so I think he wanted me to come back
to training camp like threeteen. I showed up at three
thirty and the first day of training camp, I showed
up at like three oh four, and I couldn't wait
to see him. So like were getting ready for the
condition to test. I'm like, hey, coach, like, guess how
much I weigh? And he was like uh and he
was like and then he was like what, I'm like

(19:50):
three oh three, And he gave me the most serious
look and he said that's all I need to hear.
Like that's all he needed to hear. So from that
point on, uh Man, he robed me every day. He
robed me every single day. I don't know, because I
come from a guy like Coach au Girond.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I love tough coaching.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
So a guy like Rob Marynelli, who taught Coach Girond,
He's even tougher. So it was I was able to
get the ultimate tough coach.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
So he would ride me so hard.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
To where point that most people wouldn't respond well, but
I did. He knew how to talk to me, he
knew how to push me, and I just kept I
just shut up. I just shut up and just worked.
I was just working. I was just like even the
first first day of Paths, like, because I was here
in the spring, I wasn't sure I was gonna make it.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm like, oh, these guys look great, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I wasn't sure I was.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Gonna make it, but that's T shirt and shorts.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
So then we got to the first day of training camp,
which now we're putting on paths. Now I'm able to
show exactly what I could do. It was bringing me
to my guy right here and he don't even know this,
just you know me. Us players, we go to media,
we read the comments, what people talking about because of validation,
let you know if you're being talked about it or not,

(21:04):
or if you're doing good enough or not. So I
remember the first dair of pants. I remember he going in.
He said, man, this is guy, he's sixty four. It's
the human law. They can't move him in there. And
coming from a guy like that, I'm like, okay, yeah,
I'm getting them talk like I just needed them to talk.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
I just need him to talk.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
So from then on, Rob marynell he just continued to
push me every single day.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
He'd never one thing about Rob Marynelli.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
He'd never let you get comfortable, no matter you can
have one hundred sacks, he would never let you get comfortable.
And definitely he was a blessing to my career because
it was definitely going downhill. He gave me an opportunity
that I was thirsty for so definitely appreciate him.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Nate, you know, it's interesting Antoine just said there, you
know that tough coaching and those hard practice a lot
of guys don't respond well to that.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
You've talked about how how much they would ride you
guys in the nineties. I remember Darren Woodson telling me
once in an interview, he said that he's a game
were easy because of the way we practice, Like the
way we practice was so hard. Similarly, Lewis Neil, a
guy on the defensive line side, I remember he used
to say, Coach Rod rides us so hard that like
when we get to games, we all feel like this
is easier than what Rods had to.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Do during practice.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
And so talk about that though, was like just an
idea of like thinning the herd a little bit like, Hey,
you're getting the guys that you want because you're you're
challenging them and pushing them here in a setting where
a lot of guys just get too uncomfortable.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
Well, the thing about it just a different era, and
I try not to compare because we were a padded
We were padded guys. These are unpadded guys. It's a
lot of work as a coach and a scout now
trying to bring a guy in here because we had
to prove it, and we had to last, and we

(22:45):
had to stay healthy, and so we had to battle.
So we actually had to you know, if you were
a start and I was second team, I actually had
a chance to prove that I was better because we
had on the pass and we prided. Now is more projection,
So but every thirty two teams have to do it
that way. Where's we may have ran a harder practice

(23:05):
in the forty nine ers, I know we ran a
harder practice in.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
The forty nine ers.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
A Minnesota may not practice at all compared to how
even the forty nine ers practice. But now it's all
one accord. So it's all bout projection. It's all about
where you're drafted at. Where's a free agent guy now
really has to have a break. Somebody got to get hurt,
something gotta go wrong to give a guy that's at

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the bottom of the barrel of chance. Whereas with us,
we could have been at the bottom of that baron.
If that coach liked us, that coach Baron liked him,
he was gonna give a chance to ball. So it's
a different era, different time, different way you talk to kids.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
You ain't evenna MF no.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
Dude, Now I'm just being under that, dude, like, hey,
you ain't talking to me that way.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You ain't gonna you ain't gonna talk to me that way.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
You're gonna get cut because you beat up the coach
because he ain't gonna let.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
You talk to him that way.

Speaker 8 (23:59):
So are he gonna fall into the tank and not
even performed for you?

Speaker 9 (24:03):
If people didn't have a chance to get you see
you play. You also played a little bit offense, got
to play full back block for Zeke. Just kind of
talk about the differences of being in the defensive room
the day before and then being able to get with
the offense as well.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Uh, that was easy.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
I mean if you're a smart guy and you and
you study and you're on your us. Yeah, yeah, it's
just it's not like you're in a full time offensive player.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
You got fun?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Was it to be out there though? During game day?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
It was dope?

Speaker 7 (24:30):
It was dope because the way I felt about Zeke
and the way I felt about that. Yeah, you know,
I got a picture like I'm at fullback and like
you see Dak Zeke and like you know it though
some really good guys. So the fact that I got
to be able to block for d be in the
same backfields Zeke, I mean my bad and Dak, it
was an honor, you know. So it was point I

(24:51):
didn't really want the ball. I wanted to just block
for Z because they said run like you had the ball.
So I was just run like I had the ball.
Lead block. But we did have a play called. It
was a fullback and it was a touchdown play. We
practiced it when I didn't practice my celebration, and you know,
I was excited, like I was just too excited, like
one week because every week on short yallarge goal line,

(25:11):
we practice this play. So it's like every Friday, I'm
practicing me scoring a touchdown. So I'm like all right,
like I'm not tripping about getting the ball, but I'm
gonna be on it just in case. So boom, sure
enough we're in the game. We're in the game and
called a play in a huddle. I'm fired up, I'm ready.
I know I'm scoring. Over my excitement in mind, you

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we never practice like audible audible in the play, so
he getting the play and then back audible play.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Be all.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
I'm like, no way, So now you just say it,
like how you get prepared.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
So looking I got some type of football knowledge, you know,
the numbers. I don't know if he changed it to
something thirty three, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Oh, but I turned around.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I'm like, yo, what to do and he kind of
just like pointed right there, and I'm like, okay, he
said thirty three. I'm assuming that's to the left right.
You know, I'm about to just lead black to lead
block to the left off the left guard. So that's
exactly what happened and we end up scoring. But I
was definitely pissed.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Do you remember who was against or what year?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
No, but I can find out.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
You need to find it because I need to go
I need to go back and find this play. And
I gotta see if we can see him drop. And
I'm like, oh no, no, you're gonna see me drop
to one D. I'm like, I had the process, and
you know, you go to the process like, all right, audible, Okay,
it's not that play anymore.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
So thirty three. I was like, it's to the left.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Did you say anything? To them on the sideline after
like what happened.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
I think we scored, so it was like kind of
like that didn't bring it out. Yeah, I think I
might have got cut on the play. I was trying
to leave block on the middle line back here, I
got cut.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I love that. We're gonna talk a little bit ahead.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I know, I know Nate has got to be itching
to talk about that Eagles victory on Sunday. So we're
gonna talk about that Eagles game coming up next second.
But before we go to that, though, you mentioned talking
about playing with Dak and Zeke and what a special
experience that was.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
And this always comes up when people talk about Dak.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I feel like in the media, the discussion of yeah, well, well,
what's the difference with them? And so often you'll hear
guys who point to leadership and intangibles and different things
like that. And I remember Brandon Cooks talking about this
once after practice where he said, if you don't know
how valuable that is, you think that sounds like we're
avoiding talking about something else. You just don't know how

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valuable everybody finds it when you've got that guy at
that position. So just talk about like the difference that
you feel that makes when you got somebody who can
just command the locker room and lead a group like that.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
And I'm so happy you asked me this question because
I get asked this question so much from people outside
of football and outside to regular folks.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Let me tell you something about Dak. That is my.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Favorite quarterback in the NFL, right because I'd have been
other places and experience of other quarterbacks, And let me
tell you something about Dak on The one factor that
Dak has that not a lot of quarterback has is
he has the look as a defensive guy. If when
you're going through a game and you and shit is
not going well. Excuse me my language, excuse my language.

(28:12):
Stuff stuff not going well, let it stay.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a defensive guy and stuff is not.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Going well, you look over to the quarterback and you
read his body language and you see, like, all right,
what's his demeanor, what's his energy?

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Like Dak is gonna always have a look.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
You could be down twenty one in the fourth quarter
and Dak got the right look on it, like he
still think he's gonna win. We on defense might not
think so, but Dak still believes so that's why he became.
And then the way he is as a leader, second
to none, second to none.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
I like, I think the world of Dak.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
I think the world that and I had a you know,
even though I got a bone to pick with him
because uh, you know, my son is getting older and
uh he uh. He asked me like, hey, you know
Dak Prescott. I'm like, yeah, I know, Dak, that's my boy.
Like you know, I said, you know, I'm a FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
That answered, what's talking to the buildings? Now?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
No, no, I understand, he's a superstar.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Come out? Do you come out, come out, come out
to practice?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 13 (29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Bruh, you know Dak is d no no.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
No, no, no no no, no no no. I'm just shooting.
I'm just giving him stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I don't give him.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
He's a superstar, bro.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
I didn't expect him to ask them, you know, but
I know if I've seen him, it'll be love.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Like yeah, all right, let's take our second break here.
That's Antoine Wood. He's jordan Us tonight on the s
WBC Cow's Crosstalk when we come back. You know, Antoine
was just talking about the look he had, the look
when they were down twenty one nothing to the Philadelphia
Eagles this past Sunday and they pulled that game out.
Let's talk about that a little bit and also looking
ahead to the Kansas City Chiefs on Thanksgiving. That's next
on the s WBC Cowboys Crosstalk.

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better in defensive tackle an twin Woods. So, guys, we
were talking about this a little bit going into the
break there being down significantly on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles,
and before we get into the specifics of the comeback,
I'm curious about something for you, an Swine. So you
were on that team in twenty eighteen, it was your
first year here where midway through the season everybody felt

(33:46):
like kind of in a lull sitting here at three
and four, and they make the move for Marii Cooper
who comes in here and just lights a spark pretty quickly.
First game against Tennessee, y'all lose, but after that, you
guys go on an absolute run there for a while,
and he is a big time difference baker. And that
feels like you as a defensive tackle, I'm sure you're
loving it. That feels like what they've gotten right here

(34:07):
out of Quentinn Williams, who has just wrecked shop these
first two weeks.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
For sure, for sure, Uh, definitely a big presence, uh
game changer in this night and day to how they've
been performing on defense. And don't forget a guy like
Kenny Clark. You know, Kenny Clark has been played very
well in this league. It's one of my good friends.
And I've been trying to tell him back, Yeah because
he because he because sometimes you do a lot of

(34:31):
the hidden work that you don't see, you know. So uh,
having them two on the field together and then with Osa,
it's just changed the dynamics of the defense. You know,
they're playing the way they're supposed to be. So it
was like great move by Jerry by finally getting a
presence like Quintin Williams in there. But really, I think
Kenny Clark is a person you just put two. To me,

(34:52):
in my opinion, you put two elite de tackles on
the same team together, and he had.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Two dogs for sure.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
And not to mentioned Osa, who's already a dog in
himself who's been coming along.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
See, this is what I was trying to tell people.
People thought I was so hard on Osa.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
Osa does not And see he probably if he heard
me say this years ago or weeks ago or whatever.
He's not a sixty snap guy. Osa is a thirty
five to forty snap guy. He dominates when he when
he can go into a game and let loose. At
six foot three, two hundred and eighty five pounds. Now

(35:31):
he's a terror. Whereas you was actually the same guy
to play a one technique and a three technique with
big old four hundred pounds dude deuce blocking him.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
He was not gonna last.

Speaker 8 (35:42):
He was not gonna now this dude his last two
games go check is what the BFF or whatever?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I'm you don't even need to do that. It's turn
the table, he'll say it.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Probably he's a different animal now. And so bro Clark,
I tried to tell him.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Clark was eating up all of those double teams. Sure,
now you gotta make it this decision. Old said, it's
gonna be one on one. You not don doubles because
you got two dogs in the middle now, a one
and a three. You're gonna have to double one of them.
And that's gonna free it up for sure.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Have you ever had that opportunity to be ware you
not getting double team?

Speaker 13 (36:16):
No?

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Love double teams? Yeah, I love them.

Speaker 13 (36:23):
No.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
And the thing about playing the nose.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Tackle position is that you have to do it's a
difference between the play call they double team the noose,
and it's a difference between you demand the double team
when you when you have guys in there that demand presence,
that demand the double team.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
It changes the dynamics.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
Right, So if you have a one technique, just think
about the importance and Ebra Flu's defense the same as
Rob Manner, the same treat right that defense. The three
technique has to be a guy. So now let's say
you have a nose tackle or it. Whoever's playing the one,
I know a lot of them guys interchangeable. Whoever plays
the one, he's demanding a double team like Kenny Clark

(37:04):
does and plays good blocks and plays well in there.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Now you have guys like oh saying Quentin that now
you can show who you are.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
You're not stressed because you got four hands on you
every play or they sliding and protection to you, because no,
you have somebody that's sitting there that's doing the hitting
and work for you, and he's demanding because Lord helps you.
If you don't double team, that's right, because that's how
it's supposed to be. If you're a guy in this league,
especially of those, if you're not getting double team, you

(37:33):
have to you have to be a factor. I'm not
saying you got to blow up the play and get
one hundred sacks, but you have to be a factor.
It should be something that you're doing that's effecting the play.
So it's a difference between getting double team and demanding.
But definitely the ad of Quentin Williams and Kenny Clark.
I'm like it changed the defense.

Speaker 9 (37:54):
How different is it? We've seen the last couple of
weeks some use five down man front with five different
of linemen, having Kenny Osa and Coinning out there. What
did you see being was that a huge difference maker
in that Philly game making to go single blocks and
kind of your experience.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
With five oh five man front is that's what you
do when you got dogs. It's just you can't double
team nobody. I just told you right now. The name
of the game was the man the double chap. What
happens if by alignment you can't double team. Everybody got
to do their work. So you got five guys with
five people on the mind. You they're not all been
becoming but pre snappy think it is, so now it

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changes the things.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
That's just being smart the same dude y'all.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Wanted five three weeks ago. Yeah, I'm just saying but
that that goes to tell you what happens when you
bring the right pieces in. You have the right pieces,
So now a coordinator can get a little bit freaky
out there.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
He can be like, oh man, let me go find
down I got.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
That's why I got three guys inside that can win
at any moment.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Compared to imagine when they Kenny and Quinton wasn't here
now and they're playing eighty snaps, thank you and now
now and now y'all trying to let him get his
money's work because they gave him a little bit of money.
You want to see and you want to see Osa
have eight to ten sacks, but he in there tire,
you're playing seventy nine. They doubling him. There's nobody there
that's demanding nothing. You know when Parsons was here, he

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demanded something. So why you think Osa became a guy?
There's other guys around you.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
You have the plus player, the B player can can
That's where.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
You gotta go, yes, because the A players demand all
attention to me. I was a D player C plus plus.
I want you to go to.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
Want to go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna say something to
seven to eleven.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Dude, right outside of outside inside seven eleven.

Speaker 9 (39:56):
Eleven outside of Quinn and demanding the double team. What
is something when it's an elite defensive tackle on those
sack of the people watching on TV don't realize what
they do for the other people on the football field.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
It's a lot of unselfish like little work that you
don't see, right, it's just being just one line. Number
one is doing your job. That's harder within itself. Just
do your job, being the right gap, play the block
the right way.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
That's hard.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
What happens, I think the Cowboys happened. There wasn't a
lot of guys that's doing the job. A lot of
misfitting guys now going the right way. And but when
you bring veteran president that some guys that have a master's,
you know, so it changes the whole dynamics.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
You know. So when you have guys like that that's
in the middle and changed now the dbs are not.
It's worried.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
You know how big a difference is it too. This
is one of the things that we've been talking about
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
You know.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
We had Layton vander Heshan here a couple of weeks ago,
and Layton had talked about, Man, it's a difference to
go to Logan will something to Marvin Overshown from what
you've been getting out.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Of linebacker to be able to just have that that's big.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
You get Quinning here, and by adding Quinning you're getting
a different version of Kenny and Osa. And then for
weeks you've been without your safeties Malie Hooker and Donovan Wilson.
So talk about just for a defense, like when you
can go out there and just say the entire middle
of the field is different at all three levels now
and it's better players than you had to Just talk
about what a boost that can mean, how much can

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change the dynamic of a defense.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Well, I think, oh, with the defense, right, you gotta
go with the system. The system what Ibra flu says
they the whole system of that defense is it cannot
be elite if the big guys don't run and the
little guys tackle. That's the whole message of Ibra Flus,
Rod Marinelli all the guys before them. The big guys

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gotta run, and you need a three technique that can
play ball, it can get home, and the.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
Little guys gotta tackle.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
I think my biggest thing I see one is you
got presence in the inside. Right, you got some guys
that were really hard, that's keeping the hard edge, and
then you got the little guys that are starting to
come to the party. It seemed like, I don't know
if the Safeties came back that just made it.

Speaker 8 (42:09):
No, this is what happened is they brought Quinny Williams
in here along with Clark, and the first interview these
guys did was I'm gonna do my job for sure.
For eight, ten, twelve weeks, I've been telling dudes, just
do your job. I understand the evil Fluie. Way do
your job. Guys were hijacking the scheme. Now you're not

(42:33):
allowed to hijack. Sure, Now go ahead on with my brother.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
No for sure. So now you got guys that one's accountability.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
So before you know, they were struggling, stopping and run,
struggling to just put guys in the right place. Yeah,
so now it's accountability factor. You got guys that you
don't even have to think no more. You know, Kenny
gonna be in the middle. You know Quinny gonna be
in the middle. You know they gonna disrupt, you know,
so now you don't have to Now the linebackers was
playing free now the d bes or not, so they're

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not just thinking about fitting a run.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
As much as they was earlier in the season.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
You know, there's sometimes the safety you got coverage, but
you also got to fit the be gap. Yeah, so
if now you got interior, guys, that's not fitting right,
and now your be gap is big and you're trying
to cover a deep half too. Like it confuses. It's
just a train effect that can confuse from a top down.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
It's such a when you look at eight straight stops
against the Eagles, which were massive, even when even when
you look at them going up to twenty one, I
think they're obviously right, there's a turf there's a tur
fubble in there there. The NFL came out later and
said it was a mistake to call the rough in
the punter that drive should not have extended. So that
extended a drive that they ended up scoring on. But
when you look at this team the last two weeks

(43:44):
and look at a defense that can get eight straight
stops against the world champs and an offense that can
do what they want, obviously there's there's some odds stacked
against you to get to the postseason now, But how
much does it feel like if you get into the postseason,
that's just a dangerous football team.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
If you can play at the level you've played the
last couple of weeks.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
I will say that they shouldn't think that far. They've
been playing good ball last few weeks. And like you
said twenty eighteen, Jason Garrett's biggest message, it was just week.
The week we wouldn't care about the next week. The
weeks after that, like Holly see, we was three and five,
and he made a clear message. I remember on the
team and he was just like yo, our backs against

(44:22):
the wall. He kept tapping that wall. He bade he
played like the rock, a clip of the rock, saying
like his back was against the wall.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
He played it every week, every week on Wednesday and Monday.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
And he kept reiterating like we're our practice against the wall,
and he kept smacking the wall and the only way
to go is that way, and we would just take slow,
slow steps and we would get there.

Speaker 8 (44:40):
The thing that and I told this on our podcast today,
it's two differences. You could say you're desperate to get
to somewhere, but if you've never been there before, how
desperate can you be? The Kansas City Chiefs. Understand what
desperation is. You know why they've been there. They have
danced that dance past the second round. A lot of

(45:02):
these guys ain't dancing in the first round, so they're
desperation is different.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
They are backs against the wall.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I'd rather play the rock than to try to play.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
Let's get forward, because you can't get forward with someone
you ain't never been. These guys gotta jail together, keep
doing your job, keep play by play, series by series,
game by game. They don't have that. You can't go
to a well you've never been to. You don't know
how deep that well is. So we got to find out.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
And they don't have the time to be feeling good
about this.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
Thank you, Yeah, good good, Yeah job Eagles, good job Division.
But you got the big dogs tomorrow on Thanksgiving. Yeah,
that's overly desperate too.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Look at a good professional broadcaster, Antoine Woods teasing the
head the next segment. Because we got the Kansas City
Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving tomorrow, Let's take
our final break. When we come back, we're gonna take
a look ahead at that game a little bit and
talk about what some of the keys to victory are.
I know one thing, at the very least, Nate's gonna
tell us by one, at least, by one least.

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How well you gotta do. Let me go to next week.
Let's talk about break that break the wishbones tomorrow on the.

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Speaker 3 (49:44):
So they got the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
They've got the team of the last probably seven eight
years something like that in the NFL, A guy who
a lot of people believe could go down as being
talked about as one of the greatest, if not the
greatest quarterback of all time coming in here. It's been
a little bit of a tougher road for them, and
I think statistically, if you look at the way they've performed,

(50:06):
they're actually playing better at times than they did last year.
I know there was a poll done of NFL front
office and coaches people kind of like anonymously recently about
the Chiefs. I think ESPN had done it, and their
big thing was just they said, the Chiefs are just
not winning one score games like they did last year.
I think they were eleven to zero and one score
games last year. They're zero to five this year. So

(50:28):
it's just completely reversed on them. Is still still a
very dangerous football team, though, one that you would look
at and go, this is not your typical five hundred
team rolling in here on a short week. This is
absolutely a dangerous football team. So what are your thoughts,
Nate Antoine, what are your thoughts in terms of like
this is the way Dallas needs to approach this game tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (50:47):
I think it might be the biggest test so far.
You know, the Eagles game last week. You know, that's
a divisional game and it's very important, and we were
more excited to see it based upon how the first
game went and just being a quality appointment. But I
think just going a by just what they're trying to
do and how good they were looking, this is a

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good test for him. You got a team that's overly desperate,
that's not used to being five hundred, you know. So yeah,
I think especially defensively, it's being able to can you contain,
like you said, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever
do it? They have a lot of weapons, and can
you continue to play at a high level we've been
playing that It's a good test to you know, the

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quality and the investment that you've made, you know, with
quitting in everybody and how it's been flowing lately.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
It'll be a great test for him. And then the
other side, you know, how do you deal with Chris Jones?

Speaker 7 (51:41):
Yeah, you know we're talking about a guy like Quinn Williams,
and that's a guy like Chris Jones.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
How do you deal with that?

Speaker 5 (51:48):
So, you know, Nay, I'm curious when you put your
nineteen ninety six you guys, after winning those three Super
Bowls in four years, didn't start the season the way
you wanted to, and a lot of people that the
narrative out there in the media at that time was like,
this isn't the same Cowboys team. Do you remember trying
to put yourself in kind of the Kansas City position
right now? Do you remember teams approaching you guys differently

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during the week or feeling like, man, they don't respect
us the way they should.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
I'm gonna tell you what is happening in to Kansas City.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
For the last six years, they have played two to
four extra games, depending on whether you go with the
sixteen games season of a seventeen game season. They have
always played two to three games more sometime four if
they were a wild card.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
That is an extra season.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
Chris Jones the quarterback, part of the offensive line, few
of the tight end.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
All of these.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
Guys are getting older. The talent is not as great.
The ability to churn it up is even harder. And
now everybody's coming at you. So they are fighting through that.
They are going through that. Only that there.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
And I'm not saying there's not an italy because your
boy Chris is still a dog.

Speaker 8 (53:05):
He's a dog. But it is harder and harder every year.
These guys are getting older, getting a step slower. So
now they're more mentally strong, but the athletic ability is
not there. But they have good thank God for them
to have great coaches. They're still a well tackling defensive team.
They still got that number fifteen over there that can

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make is that got the number right? Yep, he's still
got number fifteen over there. So you still got those
key pieces and they're trying to fit these young guys
in along with injuries.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They got that up. They sent a right guard.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, so who is a great interior offense.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
So I'm telling folks, this is about how it's going.

Speaker 8 (53:48):
And he's trying to keep this thing together while building
his team back around fifteen again because it got away
from fifteen. And what I mean by that is one
year fifteen slid up the Super Bowl. Then the next
few times he's been it's been a run game with Pacheco.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
They lit up the Super Bowl, then the defense took over.

Speaker 8 (54:08):
So now he's trying to build this thing back towards
number fifteen because everybody's getting a little older.

Speaker 9 (54:14):
If you were Shottenheimer and the Dallas Cowboys, how would
you go about approaching this game? Because we just talked
about Trey Smith being out. The Chiefs just played an
overtime game against the Colts where you had Kareem Hunt
career high thirty carries, guys banged up short week, having
to travel to Dallas on Thanksgiving, all the festivities and whatnot.
Would you just roll your game plan out there or
know that, hey, the Chiefs are coming in here.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Must win game. I would approach it this way.

Speaker 8 (54:37):
The thing is that can't sit home. If he sit
in one spot, Steve Spagnola gonna get him. He gonna
light him up, because what he does is he he
gonna bring either six men or five men, one more
than what you got the block, or he gonna zone
blitz you. He gonna hit you so many different ways
with corners, with safeties. But but he when you into

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a third and five, a second and ten in this
obvious passing downs, he's trying to tell you where you're
gonna throw the ball at. He's trying to dictate that.
I think that what they gotta do a little bit more,
not a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Roll dac out. Don't don't sit there and be sitting duck.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
Sitting duck for this guy, he's a maniac when it
comes to this right here, he's the best at it.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
He knows.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
He tried to be a head coach and he came
back and say, you.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
Know what, I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm gonna be
the best defensive coordinator under the number one offensive coordinator
in the league. So and the reed Steve spagno bruh.
They ready, they are making a run. And the difference between.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Their desperation and the Cowboys desperation. They know what they're
going for and they know how to do it.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Yeah, And I mean you mentioned there. Steve Spagnol has
a challenge and he's absolutely tounged. He's been a challenge
for Dak. We had done a study on this during
the offseason. The defensive coordinator that Dak has struggled the
most against statistically in his career outside of just one
off games, has been the Steve Spagan all the defense,
whether it's been against the Giant or whether he's gotten
a chance against the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
It's a it can be a tough thing. But similarly,
the other.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
One that he struggled against was Vic Fangio, and he
had a lot of success this past week against them.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
With Philly.

Speaker 8 (56:09):
The thing, the thing that UH going to have to
happen is he's been manipultly. He's been making our offensive
line look better than what it is. But I promise you,
just like Denver, you cannot do this here. I promise
you now and buy one right by hey, by many ones.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
But there we go.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
All right, Antolets, thank you so much for joining us.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
What We'll get you out there to practice soon so
you can you can confront Dak about the FaceTime call.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
That'll be good. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody, and

Speaker 5 (56:45):
We'll talk to you guys again next week on the
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