Cowboys Crosstalk: Cory Procter | 2025

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(01:20):
special Cowboys alumni guests this evening was a five year
veteran here with the Dallas Cowboys. He was an All
American at the University of Montana. We were joining today
and also, uh master drummer of Free Reign, we've got
Corey Proctor with a here to night. Corey, thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Come on, thanks for having me. This is great man.
I forgot about.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
That was that was? That was it?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Back in the day, Leonard Davis, Mark Columbo had it
set up there. Now obviously we got This is our
first time being on the air since last Wednesday, which
was a couple hours after we we left there. There
was a a just awful tragedy that hit the Dallas
Cowboys with the passing of Marshawn neland their second round
pick last year, and there's no easy way to talk

(02:04):
about it. I don't think Brian Schottenheimer got a chance
to talk to the media for the first time today
and and really I think showed why why it is
that he is such a powerful presence for this football
team and and Nate everything we've talked about the last
couple of months, of everything he's doing to build family
and and build culture, and and really, you know, hey,

(02:25):
if I'm gonna if I'm gonna go to war with you,
I gotta i gotta know the man next to me,
and and those sort of things I think that really
came through for them this week, where where his staff
was a very powerful presence for a lot of guys
who felt really just kind of in a position that
a lot of them hadn't been in before. But just
kind of before we get into some of the football stuff,
I wanted to just take a moment and kind of

(02:49):
talk about the difficult week that it's clearly been for
the Cowboys family here and and Nate something that has
obviously been really difficult around the hallways to lose such
a young man who was so well liked by every
in that locker room.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
Yeah, you know, we had Mark two in a pass
away when I played, And I don't know if Corey
had anybody that had a.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Tragedy that like that you play.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
But I tell people like this right here, I'm a
different being than most people.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
I will pray for him and his family.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
I will pray for him that he knew Christ as
his Lord and saved before he left here.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
And but but but I will.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Also tell everybody the best way you can help him is,
you know, connect a little bit with the family. If
that's if that's a possibility, you know what I'm saying
if you had that relationship, keep it in this context,
and uh, the best way you can show him how
you feel is, like I say, keep with his family

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and do the best.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
You can as you know for these sports.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
But the thing that connected you, and that's football, So
be the best you can be, you know, and remember
some him. And that's that's how I attacked it with
Mark two in a just remember him every game, say
hey brother, because he played left uh tackle to me
for like six seven years, so you know I had
a connection there with him and his wife.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
So that's how I always, you.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
Know, started my games and sometimes hey hey Mark, remember
your man boom?

Speaker 6 (04:15):
You just keep playing? Corey? How how did you work
that man?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Man?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
So I didn't have anybody that passed when I played,
but you know I had guys that passed.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Marion Barbara right, Tony.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Sperano was my own, yes sir, oh, yes sir.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
And so you know when he he passed, you know,
then we can you know, I texted Jeanette, his wife,
and it doesn't have to be much, that's right. So
like all of us are kind of in this like
what do we do? And like somebody something I got
from one of my old mentors was like, shoot, one text,
you don't have to respond.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I just want you to know that I'm praying for you.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I love you.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
And Coach was everything. He was awesome to me and
I loved him so much for being in my life.
And so like, you don't have to say more than that,
but those and they a lot of times they won't respond,
but man, you get I don't know tens hundreds of
texts like that, that thousands potentially, but you're reading through
those for the next week or more. Yes, those impact

(05:15):
people so much and so especially even then I love
that with two and A's yeah, man, you're like, I
message his brother maybe, and like that stuff carries miles
and miles of impact on somebody's life. That carries through
them hard times. So you know, pray for his girlfriend
and his family right now. That stuff is heavy.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, and we got The Cowboys made the announcement today.
They have started a fund to help support his girlfriend, Catalina,
who is expecting, and then create a fund so that
they'll be set for life. So the Cowboys that work
set that up. It's marshawnnelandfund dot org. So if you
want to donate, and help out with that. I know
a number of the Cowboys are in there, and like

(05:56):
you know, Coach Schottenheimer said today that the big thing
there that they're looking for is they want to make
sure at their set for life and that they don't
have to worry about anything anymore.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
And you know this is like.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I said, there's no easy way to talk about it.
And we'll just spend the first little bit here in
the segment and then we'll pivot over to some football
after the first break here. But I think one of
the things that's important because you know, he Marshawn neland
had dealt with a lot throughout his college career. He
dealt with the loss of his mother right before entering
the NFL draft, and dealt with a lot of demons

(06:27):
that he didn't ask for and and that a lot
of people around the NFL knew he.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Was he was dealing with.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
In fact, when he was coming out of college, he
was somebody who I think NFL teams respected how much
he attacked it head on and and wanted to knew
he had some things that he needed to deal with
and and work through. And one of the things we
said on one O five th de Fan this week
that I think just bears repeating is you know, marshawn

(06:54):
neland those who get through those sort of moments that
that marshawn neland did get through last week or that
other people don't get through. I don't think it means
that they're any tougher or you know, mentally stronger or
anything like that. A lot of times what gets them
through those moments are circumstance or timing or luck or

(07:18):
you know, something that you're just talking about, mate, something
much more divine that people can't understand and couldn't possibly
begin to explain. But it's just it's a tragedy for
a lot of people in that Cowboys locker room, and
something that I think that again, I'm grateful that Brian
Schottenheimer was the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys this week,

(07:39):
and I'm grateful that, you know, Connor Riley's there, or
Aaron Whitecotton's there the defensive line coach, or Nick Sorensen,
the special teams coach, because those are guys who have
routinely poured into the lives of these individuals all the
way back in the spring and have connected with them
on a level where they have the cachet to be
able to pick up the phone and talk to them
and and be there for them in a way this

(08:02):
week that, you know, not to compare it to any
other coaching staffs at all. I'm sure there are other
coaching staffs that would have handled it really great, but
I think that this coaching staff had a unique sort
of connection to be able to have that. So we're
gonna take our first break a little early, and I
did just want to touch on that and before we
just pivot over immediately to football. We'll go ahead and
take our first break early this evening, but I wanted

(08:23):
to talk about Marshawn Niland and what a tough week
it's been for the Cowboys as they prepare to go
to Las Vegas to take on the Raiders. When we
come back, we are gonna talk football. We're gonna talk
about the rader. We're gonna talk about where the Cowboys
are at the halfway point and what they have to
look forward.

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Dallas Cowboys. Tonight, I've got my one O five through
the Fan teammate Alec Medford here with me. We've got
the three time Super Bowl chain, six time Pro Bowler
Nate Newton here, and our special Cowboys alumni this evening
is Corey Procter and Corey. But before we kind of
get into anything else, I know we were just talking
a little bit during the break. You are you entered
a very interesting career field that I don't think people
just normally go like, oh, yeah, this is where the

(12:15):
football player is going to go after his career. So
just talk a little bit about the work that you're
doing now and maybe a little bit of how you
still remain connected to the cowboys a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, I own a business in South Lake, Texas, Pro
Capital Wealth Management, and it's we do financial planning for entrepreneurs.
And I basically like, I wanted to go work with
the people who are like me, and so we do
people that are running their business. And I kind of
equate it to you wouldn't take advice from a parenting
advice from somebody who didn't have kids, Yes, so like

(12:47):
why would you take financial advice from somebody who's not
an entrepreneur?

Speaker 6 (12:51):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
So because we look at the world different, right, just
like players, we look at the world different and where
you know, we don't do traditional retirement, don't do traditional stuff.
But I'm looking to help grow the business and we're
looking for train wrecks. It's based on my story. I
got sued in high school from a train a car
accident that I got into my junior year. I rer
ended a lady. She filed lawsuit. In a year later,

(13:12):
my mom and stepdad felt for bankruptcy, lost the house
in the vehicles, and so when I came into league.
I didn't want that happening to me. And so you know,
we have every money guy in the world coming after us, right,
which I don't have.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I have two players on my roster.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's for good.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Reason, and just because a lot of guys are train wrecks.
And but basically, like the entrepreneurs that have built something
special and awesome, they've gone amazing, and you'd be surprised
at the one hundred million plus people who have done
zero planning whatsoever. They're just excellent at what they do.

(13:54):
And we're coming in basically looking for where this thing
could get destroyed. And so I give it like an
examples we had. We have a couple of really great
oil and gas people, but a couple came in earlier
this year, came on board as a client, and you
know they had five rental properties, all in their personal name.
That's a major liability. So if a renter slips and

(14:14):
falls and breaks their leg and wants to sue, Kiss,
all five rental properties goodbye, and the eight million in.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
The broker's account.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
So you know, those those are things where are like
traditional money managers, they don't do those things. So we
want to come in and make sure that masset protection
is there. Yes, estate planning is there, and and so
that's been a real huge value prop for us. Plus
the entrepreneurship, Like you know, we are guys that will
liquidate a property like that and sell it for eight

(14:41):
hundred thousand a million, and they're like, should I put
it in my account? And I'm like, you just started
a new business, let's go hire people first, and because
you don't need to be doing all these things because
I know the business that he and herran eight hundred
grand and that hands will turn into eight million most likely,
and we'll have more to manage in the end.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
How at what point did you know? Was it in
college when you knew like, okay, this is kind of
my long term viewer, was when you were playing? When
did it really become a passion project for you?

Speaker 5 (15:07):
It was my own, so like I didn't want it
to happen to myself, And so all these guys that
I would sit across the kitchen table with, they all
wanted to manage my money, which is and I know
you've everybody who's had anything or even like the impression
that you may have money. People come out of the woodwork,
and so it was always this slimy like I can

(15:27):
help you, trust Mete, right, and I'm like, trust you.
I don't even know you, man, And so I you
know I and Marca Rivera, if you remember him. He
hit me up with a lady out of Wisconsin and
she made me good money.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I just wanted to add more to the fold.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
And so essentially it became our mantra with standing guard
building legacy. So like I aim to put my life
in a vault where somebody couldn't attack me, yes, and
that's that became the value prop and so I.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I when I came into the league, I.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Just id a commitment to learn everything about my money
that I could, which it was very stupid questions at first,
which eventually led to a whole lot smarter questions. Right,
I just wasn't afraid to ask him. And so now
you know, we're fifteen years removed from the league, and
we're stronger financial than we've ever been in our life.

(16:20):
And I'm a minimum five out of my six years playing,
so as opposed to the opposite, where I've guys that
had awesome contracts way bigger than I ever did on
my single year deals that are searching for their identity
still and have no money in the bank. Meanwhile, we're
doing pretty solid and we have a business that's growing.

(16:43):
We have three of our team members here tonight that
are represented at pro Capital. So it became a super
big passion project of mine that ultimately was part of
my faith that God kind of had to show me
why I behaved the way I did with my money,
and he.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Who basically go do that for other people? That was it?

Speaker 5 (17:03):
So like, go okay, and that ended up being the deal.
Let's hang out with And I like the entrepreneurs because
I learned so much more from those people than just
trying to give blanket advice. Because what you're doing in
your business is different from me, so I immediately I'm
interested now and we're having a different conversation and I'll

(17:23):
try that stuff in mind and it may work, it
may not.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
But I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
My business has scaled so much from when I first
started this thing simply because I've gone to people that
have been smarter than me, more experience than me, or
I'm willing to try things across industries and that's been amazing.
So as it ties into the Cowboys want Brian Wansay,
our player development guy. He brought me in for the

(17:47):
last seven years to share my story with the rookies,
and so he gets to see all the bad stuff,
Like he gets all the guys that are calling the
facility trying I got no money for rent, who I've
blown through everything, need some out, And he's trying to
give examples of guys that have done some good things
pass ball that that we were too us, too mature

(18:08):
at that point, but that a lot of these guys,
like I mentioned earlier, Booker, he was front and center
in the meeting room asking questions, how can I get
started on like where do we start on trying to
find because he was talking about broadcasting, and I'm like, dude,
you got guys in house that you need to be
talking to. You talk to Nate, you talk to Isaiah, right,
you can talk you can talk to Marcus. He was

(18:28):
he's doing his thing right now. All the guys that
I played with, right, and these are great guys former
players go talk to and get started right.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Now on that.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
And so you know, I love those guys that are hungry.
And so that's that's how I've been keeping in contact
with the Cowboys, and it's been really cool. So they
saw value after I was done playing, which a lot
of us, right, we get jaded then, like the.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
League doesn't want me anymore, and I'm like, I get it.
I went through that.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
But if you start bringing value to a different place
and start getting good at your craft, other people will
take notice of that.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
You mentioned guys trying to find their identity while they're
in the league. What do you think you learned about
yourself when you were playing that kind of catapulted you
into this success Because you mentioned that you asked a
lot of questions and there was a lot of things
you had to learn coming out of high school, into college,
into the league. What do you think you learned about
yourself that really helped you in your past football life

(19:26):
to get yourself to this point now?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
I tell you, man, I was really surprised. How about
you guys, But like, when I stopped playing, I realized
the bar was so low in the normal world.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I hung out with Bill Parcells, right, this guy, remember
when we teach Waitefields took off the chains off the lease, right,
and we went thirteen and three that year and had
an amazing season. But like Bill Parcells, if you weren't
on time where you're supposed to be when you were
supposed to be there, given one hundred percent effort at
times at all things while you were hurt, like I
had a spring back in training camp, coming in barely

(20:02):
could walk, There's no way I could play, I'm thinking.
But if I don't, I'm getting cut right. So I
found that the bar that I had for myself from
a lot of the conditioning for my coaches that I
was around.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Set me up for success outside of the league.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
And if I could get through the transition time, which
that's the lonely time, that's a hard time. If you
can get through the transition time and find that next
that next niche you can get involved in, if you
just apply the same attributes to that, you'll do well.
And that's what I took was I've always been a
speed guy. Not like I've been fast okay my forty times,

(20:40):
not that, but like I'm speed to get it done.
So like coach told me to be there on time,
I'm gonna be there early. I'm gonna get there beat
and be ready to roll. And if you tell me
to execute something, It's gonna be done now, and I
can't wait on it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And so that's been a huge thing.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Even in the business where communication is the number one
can playing across financial institutions, guys don't they don't communicate
with clients or they don't they're nonexistent. So you know,
when somebody walks out of our office and Mackenzie or Meredith,
our ops and admin have an email in your inbox
by the time you get home with all of our

(21:18):
actionables complete, that's pretty attractive. And so that has that
alone has been a huge speed speed of action just
to get things done.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
So and we're talking with Corey Proctor here on Cowboys
Cross Talks. So the I feel like the shining example
in professional sports of like it can go away that
quick was a basketball player back in the name Antoine
Walker and Antoine Walker they talked about how he had
one hundred million dollars and a couple of years out
of the league.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
It was all gone.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So when we hear stories like that, is that like
when you hear something like that, you go, I see
how that can happen, Like I know just by what
happens to athletes I know how you can lose one
hundred million dollars like that? Or is that like an
extreme case? Are there things of like hey, if you're
a profession you do have to guard against there are
people who can lose your money that quickly.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh yeah, well the number one problem when it comes
to anybody, and I mean this is biblical, this is scripture,
like wealth gained in haste is lost in haste, and
so same thing happens if somebody and I see this
with like big and if somebody's inherited a lot of
money or came into a big lawsuit payment or something,
if it's quick to fall on you, you haven't built

(22:23):
up the basically any sort of type of the word.
I'm looking for any sort of experience to build it.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's that much easier to lose. Now.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
There's good guys that I've talked to or people that
have talked to that they're like, man, it was like me,
I didn't want to screw up. I don't want to
screw this thing up. So they have a healthy fear.
But dude, a hundred million can get blown in a heartbeat.
I've seen it happen, and it blows my mind still
but it can be gone in. I mean I've seen

(22:54):
guys both several hundred thousand dollars in a day.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
The thing that's amazing is God, you Bobby can sit
up and say, wow, man, how can that happen?

Speaker 6 (23:06):
You can get me, you can get a million dollars, can.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Be going to I know, I can, I know, I
can't see.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
The thing that makes you laugh is every you can
bring ten people up here and say hey man, I
got a million dollars for you, and they everybody to
just go crazy. But within a month, if they don't
touch this brother or somebody with some experience that they respect.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
It'll be gone. This ten out of ten people brother
the difference, But he's the difference. It happened to me.
It can happen, and when it happened, it's not a
good feeling. But you're gonna beat the brunn in of everybody.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Joke.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
But this guy had experienced as a young man that
said this will not happen, and it lodged in his brain.
And like you say, I don't care how stupid it
sound right now, I know what it's gonna be in
the end, and you you follow through.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
It was it was I think it was just a
healthy fear, right, yes, But and then I was so
hungry to do what you did. And I tell you
a lot of that came later in my faith, Like
I had good attributes from ball, but it wasn't till
my faith really got turned on that I became an
insatiable consumer. So like I read everything every You should

(24:17):
see my.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Library, my books. I have so many books.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
I'm finished writing my book right now, which is cool,
but it's built not broke system fall system like this.
But like all I did was like, man, if you
were better than me, there's a reason for that.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Tell me what you do? How do you?

Speaker 5 (24:38):
And so luckily, right as a cowboy, we get invited
to like these incredible places like this cowboys club or
somebody's home, which is like it might be the most
amazing home you've ever walked into, right, And so we're walking.
You might walk into a seven million dollar home and
you're like, all I could think about is what did
you do to build this? And I crack, I kind

(25:01):
of quip at it because there's two type people to
walk into your home, right, One says like this is incredible,
how did you build it? The other one says, must
be nice. Yeah, and I might get out of my
house the second you say that, get out, because that's
the person that thinks you got lucky. You didn't get lucky, No, no, no,
somebody had to work for that at some point. And

(25:22):
it's actually building wealth is pretty systematic and easier than
you think it is. It's just how discipline can you
be in that process, And it's really just dampening your
own impulses to want to go blow it somewhere, and
so like, but I did that, I will go over
to your house and then see you in this amazing house,
and I'd want that story. And all I did was

(25:42):
tried to replicate it as much as I could. And
so like, when I got in the business, I knew
I could ten x under my own power. Then when
I get the right mentor when I got with I
got her name was Aaron Boxford.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
She sold her.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Firm and I got a big check for it, and
I was like, we need to talk, and I basically
copied from her and made it all mine.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
That took my business to one hundred a whole another level.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Well, now I'm making eighty to one hundred and twenty
percent returns in my business.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Year over year in revenue.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
And then I ended up getting different partnerships, and so
as I started getting some bigger clients, these bigger, bigger
partnerships started coming in, where now we have an insurance
brokerage firm, and now we have these other people that
like saw value and they're way bigger than us, and
like we want to partner officially, and you're gonna We're
gonna make these official wealth management arm I'm like to me,

(26:33):
that was like Brian Walmsley's seeing what I was doing. Yeah,
post league, and he goes, I need you to talk
to my guys. Yeah, that's where people started seeing value.
And but all I did was I man, I was
taking from your guys's successes and taking the ideas, and
you were happy to share it as long as you
thought I was worthy to share it with.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm curious, you know, Nate, for you when you got
into the league in nineteen eighty three, it was your
first year, the time that you played in the league,
Corey your first year in two thousand and five, to
what you see now, just talk a little bit about Nick.
What kind of resources were available to you as a
player during your days or how teams made those sort
of resources available, Corey, when you got a league with

(27:12):
the available and what you see, teams make it available
to people. Twenty years later.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
The Cowboys has always been the standard. It is Wansley
Pop was.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
Before him, Larry Yeah, yeah, aesome, it was all The
Cowboys have always been a step ahead, and the people
of Dallas has always been willing to help.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
I mean just you.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Can walk into it, like you said, club of any
nature like similar to this and meet somebody and inform
a partnership. It's hard to be in Dallas and be
a Dallas Cowboy and not running to these type people.
All you got to do is be like my man, hell,
be bold, be confident, and be worthy and they'll share

(27:56):
it with you.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Man.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
I've seen it happen a million times. So it's always
been in for the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
It's so like a lot of the comments we get
out of like I hope the league's helping you, right,
And so the league gives us resources. We got the
NFL Trust and Players Association, and there's some great resources
there you can utilize. And I've exhausted them, like I
am that guy.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I'm like, eat it up.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right, But really the world is what you want to
go get and and so that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
The same thing my experience here.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Jerry wants that for you, Steven wants that for you,
all the coaches want that for you, and if but
I can't do it for you, and so what the
same here? We have such an awesome crowd of people
just in Texas and Dallas where they've done insanely amazing
things and I'm like, I get to go to some
luxury ranches and go shoot and I'm working. I'm like

(28:54):
getting paid for this thing, and I'm like where am
I at right now?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
But like that that's but if if you're the one
that like goes and do it, the thing is is
I'll tell you there's a natural defensive mechanism that we
have as players, Like what do you want from me?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right?

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Right?

Speaker 5 (29:09):
I get it, I've been there, I still have that
two degree and it's a good, healthy thing to do.
But there are genuine people that like, what's your plan afterwards?
Like your parents like what are you going to do
for school? What are you gonna do after you're done?
And you don't want to think about that as a
young player, I get it be all in burn the
ships for where you're at right now, but in the
off season, when you have so much time.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Available, dude, you should be reading books.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
If you need to finish school, go back, finish your school,
but you need to be doing something to make yourself
more productive. And I still have relationships from when I
was playing and when I had off season times that
are with me today that like they're like, I can't
believe what's going on in your life, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Like me neither. But all it was was you saw
value in me.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
And I was willing to like hear your story and
take something from you. And now I have people that
come up to me four years later they're like, dude,
that one I mean something as simple as a good
guy's coaching quarterbacks at my church. That's all he does,
coach quarterbacks. And I'm like, what are you doing for
your accounting right now? And he's like, he's like, what
do you mean? And I'm like, dude, you don't do

(30:15):
like quick book self employed or something, and he's like, no,
for no joke, this happened.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
It is probably like a month ago. This guy came in.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
He was like, four years ago, you told me to
get quick book self employed. That changed my life. I'm like,
you're not writing off any of these things. What is
wrong with you? And so like? But those were all
things that I did. I would come back to you
and I'm like that what you taught me changed my business.
And how how awesome is that for you to give
that gift to somebody else who's already done well, to

(30:43):
be able to see that you've applied their wisdom. And
that's so all of a sudden, I just bought myself
more time with you, right, And that's more mentorship for me,
because you're still above me. You're building bigger than me.
And that's what I've done with my mentors. And that's
what I tell with any of these guys. And what
the NFL brings you is basically access to people that

(31:05):
want to help. Now, there is a slew of garbage
that you just get rid of.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Some of them.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
You can't believe that they're still swimming around the Cowboys facility,
but like you get around, you get away from them,
feel have a good discernment through that and even have
your people like like, if you guys are in my
circle and I'm talking to these guys, maybe you are
a voice, right, But I tell people, if they're not
where you want to be, take it with a grain

(31:33):
of salt, good or bad. Right, But if they are
with you and they're giving you some advice, you need
to take it. And So if I got somebody with
a bigger firm or way ahead of me, bigger revenue stream,
bigger team, bigger execution, a larger book, that's all our
gravitated towards. So it's I can get wisdom from you
somewhere and I'm gonna steal all of it.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
And you do it with class.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Yeah, remember what he's what he's keep saying is if
they feel that you are worthy to be invested into. Yeah,
you know, and a lot of times people like to share,
and people with things like to share.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
But they've seen the disessed pool.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
That he's talking about too, and it is some people
still swimming around these that you like.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
This is a is a bad night for my wife
to be sitting back there, because I'm gonna get it.
I'm gonna get a lecture on the way home about See.
I told you're supposed to be taking avanage resources. You're
supposed to This is just getting me a lecture on
the car. Right, Let's take our second break here on
the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk when we talk when we come back,
let's talk about where the Cowboys are at the halfway
point of the season. They got the Raiders coming up. Uh,
and also get Coury's perspective on some of the things

(32:41):
that Brian Schottenheimer's really trying to make a difference on
in terms of culture and how much those things can
matter in terms of a locker room winning and taking
another step. We'll talk about that next down on the
SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Speaker 6 (36:04):
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got my one O five through the fans teammate Alec
Medford here, we got the three time Super Bowl champ,
six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton is here as well.

(36:26):
And tonight our Cowboys alumni is Corey Proctor. Corey, thanks
for joining us. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
So the excuse excuse me, Bobby before you go in,
what's my guy name here? Alec Medford?

Speaker 7 (36:37):
Okay, I mean every night, did he you know, he'll
look over at me and then he'll kind of, you know,
try to oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
All right.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Alex Alison hitting the gym.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Yeah, hey for a twenty four year old, I've got
a bad back.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
I got to readjust every now and then, I've got
to readjust.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
You're ready really yeah?

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Last year, see Nate pro doesn't remember last year, Nate
kept introducing Alex as sixty five, two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
That's the beauty of radio.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
So the Cowboys as they as they hit the halfway
point here of the season, that they're in the bye
week now and uh they're three to five and one,
they've got an opportunity with the Raiders coming up on
Monday a game, hopefully that they can kind of get
things right coming out of the bye week. That added
a couple of new pieces.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Logan Wilson, Quinn Williams.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
We had a great conversation with Leyton vander esh last
week about and the impact that those guys can make
right away. But I'm curious for one of the things,
and we referenced it at the very beginning when we
talked about the marshawn neland Isshue was just the the
the impact that Brian Schottenneimers made on culture this year.
That has been the headline culture, culture, Culture. It's a
two seas that he's used all your culture and competition.

(37:47):
That's what he wants to really drive home. Talk about
just from your perspective, Corey, the the the culture that
existed for a guy like Bill Parcells when you were
here you already talked about, you know, was on time,
it was regimented, it was strong.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
And then maybe how the.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Culture that existed for for Wade Phillips, which was maybe
a little more freeing and kind of free things up,
and just the different styles that can exist and how
you think that impacts the team in terms of as
they're they're on the course to trying to win ball games.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Man, that's huge. Culture is everything. So like you, if
you don't have the right culture, you're gonna lose. And
so now there's happy balances. Though, So, like Bill Parcells,
what I loved about him, I'm I'm very much like
I vibe with Bill Parcells.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Right, like black and White, you knew where you stood.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Really uncomfortable to talk to him all the time, especially
one on one, but like you knew where you were
at with him, and if you could withstand his heat,
then he liked you. And so but what I liked
about him is he had a certain standard of a
guy that he brought in the locker room. So like
you had to have been a good worker. You had
to be on time for your stuff. You can't be unreliable, right,

(38:50):
you had to you had to be that kind of
guy first. And then he required you to lift, be
part of off season and to lift. I think it
was a minimal minimum of three days a week during
the season. So he had actually requirements for us to
be there at certain times. And I love Wade. What
I think the counter with Wade has to be is
you is when you have a guy like Wade who

(39:12):
was relaxed, what I was a guy who could handle that,
and I wouldn't be right. I wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
So like there's guys that need a bill, that's guys
that need a Wade, right, And so if you have
a Wade and I put like I had Steve Mariucci
when I was on practice squad in Detroit in that
similar category. He's a veteran guy wants to take care
of you, make sure your body's good to go for Sunday.
They need you for Sunday, not for Wednesday Thursday practice. Right,
But if you don't have coaches policing underneath that that

(39:46):
relax or that go get her coach, it can get
away from you, like we saw it with Wade later, right,
And so, uh, what culture ends up being everything. We
got to have some police, whether it's a veteran guy
policing the other place or it's a coach assistant coach
doing that if we have a more laxed coach, But
culture ends up being everything, because if you've got guys

(40:08):
that are showing up late, or got guys that aren't
putting all the work in maybe on the side gives
like weight room or even in practice where it gets
a little lazy in practice and we're just kind of
bumping up and we're not really going hard on anything.
I need either a coach or I need a teammate
play to be like to tell me what's wrong and
to call me out on what's wrong. And so if

(40:29):
you don't have that kind of culture where you actually
have true policing going on, then we're gonna let the
team get away.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
And that's where that's where like you have.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Guys that aren't living up to their potential right, And
that's where, like I always use Alex Smith as an
example why coaching is so important. That guy, how many
coaches you go through in San Fran before, like four
different coaches, and everybody thought he was a first round
bus at a count right till he got with Jim Harbaugh,
came to San Fran who's a true quarterbacks coach. Then

(40:59):
he went to Kens City with Andy Reid as true
quarterbacks coach, completely changed his career. So that pairing is
huge for players, but it also is big for the
locker room because if I don't have the right culture, man,
we're going downhill fast and we got. There's got to
be a good level of grace and accountability marrying each other.

(41:19):
That was because, like you know, if I the grace
in that, if you have real problems going on in
your life that's affecting your play, I gotta have enough
grace to speak to that, right. But at the same time,
we got a job to get done, and we got
to we gotta get it done, so I need guys
that are gonna hold me accountable to that job.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
So that's that culture is a massive thing.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
I don't love both of your takes on this.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
Being former offensive linemen. One of those changes that Brian
Schottenheimer made bringing in offensive coordinator Clayton Adams, who his
time in Arizona, he was really praised for his work
with the offensive lineman specifically and generating a run game
with a group of guys that a lot of people
didn't know who they were. He comes to Dallas and
early on the returns have been great. How important is

(42:02):
it to have a guy that is working one on
one with your position group, but he's also the guy
drawing up the concepts and helping make the play calls
on Sundays and whenever they play. Because I think that's
been a big part of it, that the offensive coordinator knows.
I know your strengths, I know each individual person. I
know what you can do and what you can't do.

(42:22):
How important do you think that is or how much
of a luxury do you think that is?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
I mean it is a luxury, but I tell you
it's important because like Likenate Nate's time and tell me
if you're off. I was always a big why guy,
which rubs people the wrong way it does. But like
older days, you know, which, I still have a part
of this in me where you tell me to do something,
I just go do it right Now we have way

(42:46):
more of a generation now of players today where it's like, okay,
why why why would I do that? Where like so
many people take that as combative, it's not combative, like anybody, Yeah,
it just answer the question. And I had coaches get
upset at me for asking that. But the purpose is
if you do have a guy that just doesn't know

(43:08):
the interior five or six positions, but he knows the schematics,
like truly.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Why are we walking this thing out?

Speaker 5 (43:15):
And he can explain that he's good at sharing that
that's gonna go so much farther for a player that
does ask that, like, oh okay, no, I get that
makes sense, and you take the coaching honestly and then
we can go to go and apply it so that
I'm like, listen, there's bad coaches in the NFL too,
all right, I'm like being gone so long, you see
where guys are at. Now, I'm like, I love seeing

(43:37):
guys succeed, But you're also like that guy really, which
I know you can too, but so when you're talking
when you like even if you're on chair quarterback right
and you watch him from the sidelink, Yeah, there's that.
There's some of those guys that get in. But to
get those guys that truly know the scheme and they
can be they can be a good coach at the

(43:58):
same time is so huge for especially this generation.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I think so rare guys, Yeah, so rare.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
The thing that the thing that bothers me is And
maybe when you played my brother, it was different. We
did not have the injuries. We all got my.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
Officeive line we played together like four years straight before
we had a guy missed more than two games. And
now you cannot this offensive line cannot grow because they
will not stay healthy, and I don't have a reason
for it.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I've got a good question for both y'all, and we
can take our final break here and we can answer
this win comeback.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
So I'll just shut it up for you.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I'm curious for you, guys, because we've heard this feedback
occasionally from some players, the idea of the way that
the CBA is and the way that certain things have
been negotiated, that some guys believe the lack of the
physical practice and stuff don't properly prepare your body for
what you're going to take in on Sunday, and that
that may be some of the reason why you're seeing
increase in injuries.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
I just want to a jew's perspective on that.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
If you feel like that's a legitimate argument, or if
there may be something else, we'll talk about that when
we come back here on the s WBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
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Speaker 2 (48:41):
Tonight, I've got my one five three de fan.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Teammate Alec Medford here with me, all six five, two
hundred and fifty pounds of him. According to Nate Newton,
the three time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler,
that's with us in future Ring of Honor member no Doubt,
and our Cowboys alumni this evening is former Cowboys offensive
lineman Corey Proctor. So I asked you guys as we
were heading to the break the idea that has been
suggested I've heard by some guys out there, usually veterans,

(49:05):
longer term players, who believe that some of the increase
we're seeing in guys who are having a rash of
injuries like you were just talking about Nate is they
believe that some of the practices scheduled, some of the
way the practices are scheduled, and what you're allowed to
do during the season doesn't necessarily prepare your body the
right way. Now, I know there's an alternate line of
thinking out there as well, one that Mike McCarthy usually

(49:28):
used to subscribe to, which is, I'm and that's something
I think you just referenced with Steve Marry. I'm trying
to protect your body. I'm trying to keep your body
fresh so that you can sustain the whole season and
you're not getting beat up. Where do you guys fall
down on that idea of what do you think is
something that's more helpful to prepare a player?

Speaker 6 (49:44):
This started with Steve Wash.

Speaker 11 (49:46):
This started with coach wash Bill Bill Wash, Yeah, Steve,
but that started with.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
That started with the forty nine ers. But I was
a part of one of their guys, Coach Seffert. The
temple was so high, though, the temple of practice was
so high. They took off the pass quicker than anybody.
They've always been that way, and a lot of their
people come down that tree. But their temple was so high.

(50:20):
When they asked you to do inside run, you put
on your pass, you go wide open, you take those
paths off, and everybody almost to the point where you're like, WHOA,
these people gonna hurt themselves. They were so wide open,
and they practiced a little bit longer than the guys.
Like with Jimmy, we were going out, we were going
an album forty five and we were gonna be padded
all the way through. I don't have a problem with

(50:42):
how they do it now, I really don't, because all
thirty two teams have to do it that way. So,
but it's the speed in which you do it, and
it's what you do during the off season.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Remember, Jimmy came up under the bill party, even though
he did not come up on the part sales tree.
He always called par sales when hey, how do I
do this? How do I do that?

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Because par sales is so regimented, and that is that
is what I subscribe to, is how do you practice
the speed in which you practice, and will you do
it all here up under the strength coach.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
That's just what I believe.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
The same thing.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
So what I would love to see in the league
is we have a return back to there's a conditioning
that takes place of your body when you're in the
pads hitting all week long. And so yes, you lighten
the load as you get closer to the game, right,
and you can do that. There's lots of ways you
can do that. But like I love the systematic approach
that Bill brought to it, but you got to have

(51:43):
the hitting two degree. And so the problem is when
you take off the pads, naturally people lighten up right,
and so like, now we're not hitting really anymore, Bill Parcells,
even if we were out of pads. I remember having
to do rookie mini caamp with the guy. And this
is remember Pat mcquestion when he got drafted. He was like, Hey,
what's the tempo on this? I'm like, this is full go,
this is don't play like we're in paths and so

(52:06):
what we're hidden in that sense, but like there's a
conditioning of your body and joints that take place from
that hitting that needs to be there, but they're they're
doing it so guys don't get hurt right now.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
But where I think the offset that would really help
is if we have a return back to true off season,
like true off season, meaning we don't need OTAs. We don't.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Maybe you have a little bit, but like even in
high school we had two weeks of spring ball, even
in college, two weeks of spring ball. Right, you don't
need two full months of OTAs to do this.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
We need to get back to the weight room. Lift weights.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Our technology is so much better now with off season
training than it ever was in the history in history.
Take advantage of that technology. Get big, strong, in shape
during the summer, all right, and then then we have
minimal attack on your body in the summer or football.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I'll tell you, like, this is why.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
If you guys, remember there was a study done at
Alabama on your probability of getting a scholarship playing football
for Nick Saban. And if you were a multi sport athlete,
you were four times more probable to get a scholarship
at Nick Saban with Alabama than you were if you
were a single sport athlete. Well, okay, yes, we specialized
in football. I was in way better shape going into
training camp if I played racquetball all summer long in

(53:27):
the facility. You remember we had the racquetball court. Yes,
coaches used to play players. We used to get these
big tournaments going all the time. All we did was
lift weights, run and play racketball. Get oh man, it
was the best because we had a bunch of trash talk.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
We had.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
It was still athletic, it was still fun, and we're
still getting the conditioning workout that we needed. And then
when we were getting hit the field, I was in
the best shape of my Nobody could keep up with me.
And so but that's what I'd like to see, is
we got to have the hitting in season, have a
true off and where we're getting a break away from that,
and so then we turn into this multi sport. It's

(54:04):
a total body transformation where now I'm going to become
a better athlete ultimately a better football player.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
Conversely, do you think there's any benefit to the guys
being in the meeting rooms more maybe watching some of
that tape and learning some of the concepts. Do you
think there is something to be gained from that or
do you think that it's removing itself a little bit
from what you guys are saying the physicality and everything
you can't replicate.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
That you can't, man, I mean like the off season,
like and I'm gonna guys shout out dupe manny weather
here in town. Right, he runs the all lines something
awesobly right, Yeah, And I'm like, this is this is
something I wish I did better when I was playing.
When I after playing, I became insatiable for my work. Well,
I want guys to be insatiable for their work in football.

(54:47):
So what I mean I want to talk to a
Nate Newton. I want to talk to a guy that's
made Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Now.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I want to talk to guys not just from old
times for me times, and so I want to I
want a chance to get better at my craft that's
away from my legs getting beat up.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
So I think that's off season time where you can
take a ton of time in film and get that
meeting room time where now we're learning new things, trying
new things. Potentially we can take into training camp and
try and so, Okay, we still have excuse me, we
still have to apply what coach wants us to do,
which is different for a lot of coaches. But I

(55:24):
think we have a great opportunity to just get some
true off season time where we can make a better
player overall.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Here in just the last ninety seconds, really quickly, Corey,
we appreciate you join us side, just reset for everybody
here in the last little bit. What it is you're
doing now where people can find out more about what
you've got going on.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Yeah, No, I own a wealth management firm called pro
Capital Wealth Management. You can find it pro CAPITALTX dot
com com. Follow me on social media, right. I love
talking with people there. I'm pretty active and share about
my work and my family and in my faith. I'm
pretty convicted and the stuff that I do. So if
you follow me, you know, try not to get offended. Okay, Yeah,
what's real?

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Like, I'm back in the spirits. Yeah, got the spirits
that drake But.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Okay, all right, so they can keep up with Corey
Proctor there. And a reminder we talked about it.

Speaker 8 (56:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
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something the Cowboys have set up to be able to
help support them through a very tragic time.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
UH.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
For Alec Medford.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Cory practice.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Thank you so much for joining us, and we will
be back again. Next Wednesday on the SLBDC Cowboys Cross
talks