Girls Talk, ‘Boys Talk: Must Win Monday

In this week’s wrap-up for the Dallas Cowboys: we begin with the latest injury report heading into Monday night vs. the Las Vegas Raiders, followed by an emotional look inside the locker-room with “Bree with the Receipts”, as the team grapples with the tragic loss of their teammate Marshawn Kneeland.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,
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Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome in to Girls How, Boys Talk, presented by on
Vizeline in the s SEVBC Studio. I'm Nicole Hutchison alongside
Brianna Aldriche, chrisy.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Scales, Aisha Morrison. We got the whole crew together.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Love Friday.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
You did not just clear me, even like right before
the show goes only right?

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Are you okay? Y're good?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah? Good?

Speaker 7 (00:54):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sure be energetic because you don't.

Speaker 8 (00:57):
She's gonna take it through.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Every time we start.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's fine, but I need some more energy. Let's try
this again.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
We have It's Friday, almost game day.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Bother me, but I like to watch her.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know, you just get stressed, curious. She don't stress
you out?

Speaker 8 (01:14):
What would be happy?

Speaker 9 (01:17):
You could say? Yes? If I can say it, yes, I.

Speaker 8 (01:22):
Know it wasn't just me.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know. I'm trying to show out. But wait, God,
y'all need to wake up.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's fine, almost game day and we got a practice
report the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Uh like practice yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Shody did mention that, you know, yesterday was just kind
of get back in the groove type of day. Today
will be more of a.

Speaker 8 (01:39):
Practice practice, practice practice. So this was like Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (01:43):
Yeah, today's Thursday.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
So yesterday was yep so so so the second biggest
day of game plan installation.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, so what you got practice report? Ayesha?

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, Yes, Solomon Thomas with the calf did not practice.
That's something to keep an eye on, even though it's
just Wednesday. Elijah Clark with the rib injury was limited.
Johnny Cornelius was limited yesterday. Dante Fowler with a shoulder
was limited.

Speaker 8 (02:10):
Yeah, because he got tackled the game.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Maliek Cooker with the toe was limited, Tyler Smith with
the with the with the knee was limited, Donavan Wilson
with the elbow so my shoulder was limited. The Marian
overshown was full, Savone Ravel was full, and perry On Winfrey,
who we forgot to mention yesterday when we're talking about
the defensive line, was a full participant in practice yesterday.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, they opened Malie Cooker's practice window yesterday, so that
was a good sign considering that safety room is decimated
a little bit with injuries. My goodness. But ladies, just
you know, thoughts on I mean, I don't know if
Solomon Thomas is something to worry about just yet, just
because it's a Wednesday practice. I think that he was
just trying to get back in the groove of things.

(02:56):
But again, we don't know. We'll probably find out today.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
But yeah, I would just say that when you're coming
off a bye and you've got a soft tissue injury,
that's you know, that's a little worrisome. That half is
one of those things like a you know, these soft
tissue injury injuries with hamster or whatever are the ones
that can nag you. So I think one of the
things that people are excited to see. And you guys

(03:23):
you know, talked about it. But going with a five
man front, and if you don't have Solomon Thomas out
there as you know, one of the five and if
it you know, we're ja Toya, would you want to
do the same kind of thing and put them, you know,
out there with Quinnen and Kenny so I think that

(03:45):
his availability could Solomon's, that is, could affect whether or
not they do more or less five men.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well they might as well might be able to get
home at four. We talked about this yesterday a little bit.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
It'll be awesome, It's be nice.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'd love to see that. But ladies, other other thoughts
on you know, guys showing up on that injury report.
Obviously a lot of guys coming back, even Elijah Clark
as well, Donald and Wilson limited, but you know, just
having those guys back.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Which'all got well, I mean with the safety room in particular,
I know we were I know I speak for myself
where I was at a point where I was like, Okay,
I want to see We've seen one year Thomas and Spurs.
I kind of want to see him for extended period
of time and see how he does.

Speaker 8 (04:26):
We talked about Marquise Bell.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
You know, I had a lot of expectations come into
this season on what he could do for the team.

Speaker 8 (04:31):
Both of those gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Got the opportunity and not saying that it wasn't you know,
it wasn't great. It just wasn't what we expected. And
I think getting these veteran guys back might be good
for the team, you know, and kind of taking a
step forward defensively. And then in regard to like I said,
we were talking about the defensive line a couple of
days ago. I totally forgot that period. Winfree yes was

(04:55):
going to be available. And I do think his length
and we've talked about it, some of his pas and
stuff that he displayed earlier in the preseason and in
training camp. It's something that you can use in this
system now. And we looked at defensive tackle as kind
of like a weakness almost this season. With all these
different guys and some versatility in their interior, maybe they

(05:17):
can you know, make some shake with interior pressure, with
getting those with getting someone like Perry on winfreeback.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
Yeah, the injury report, it's early, so I never really
get too into it. I will agree with Christy's after
the BIE week seeing Solomon Thomas on there lingering he
was the only player yesterday, mind you that did not
practice in some capacity. But just excitement I think overall,
with the additions that are coming back again, the defensive
pieces that have been kind of dangling over our heads

(05:44):
for a while, and then seeing Quentin for the first
time and seeing Logan Wilson out there for the first time,
and I had like this really cool picture with I
was trying to get Logan just showing him, but then
there was like overshown doing going on hard right next
to him, and just the linebacker room. I think overall
is what a lot of people want to see come

(06:05):
to light, because that's what we've been waiting on. But
I think it's one of the most positive practice reports
that you can get coming back from a bye week.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, agreed.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
And then you know, one of the things pregame and
trying to find out little nuggets on the sideline from
the staff and player personnel department and the like, is
you know, what's a reasonable expectation in terms of pitch
count for Demo right and savone revel how much? You know,

(06:37):
how much will they work him in right? And are
they going to keep drawn bland outside and go ahead
and have ready steward, you know, work in the inside,
which is what they did the previous game against Arizona
because they wanted to keep bland outside as much as
they could. So there are a lot of moving chess

(06:58):
pieces going into this game, and part of it will
depend on the pitch count for some of these guys
coming back and is there if you know, Malie Hooker,
I think that was a really significant thing to your point,
Ayisha about safety. I mean, it's the first time that
he's practiced since the toe injury, and so would he
be limited as well, So I don't know. Usually a

(07:20):
guy like that, if they're back in the game, you know,
then then they'll go the whole way. But you know,
you you may still try and give them a series
or two off if possible.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, that's something that Seaty even mentioned yesterday, is kind
of tempering, you know, the expectations of Demo, so some
Von and Rebel as well, just because like he just
wants those guys to go out there and play free,
like play free, play your best. Don't put too much
pressure on those guys because they are just coming back
from severe injuries. But just talking about that secondary, I mean,
I think we briefly kind of touched over a little bit,

(07:52):
but who would be your best personnel out there in
the secondary if you had to choose.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Well, like I think I think it would still uh
begin with doron Bland and elim with Stewart on the
inside and that you would you would work those guys in.
You know, Kayln Carson got a couple of series as well,
So I don't know with That's the thing with Revel.
It's not like he's been out since training camp. The

(08:19):
dude has been out for over a year. And so
what a leap from East Carolina to the NFL. So
coming off at a major injury, So I think that
it will likely start with small doses for him, meaning
a series or two, and that would be that would

(08:40):
be great. I think that at this point in his
career and coming off a knee injury like that, toe
dipping is just fine.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Let's just get dip the toe.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
You don't have to push him off the high board
into the deep end of the pool.

Speaker 11 (08:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's hilarious is if you ask him, he would probably
say I'm ready to go play right now, and you.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Hope so, absolutely, asolutely, And that's the attitude you want
to And it's the same thing with Demo. So that's
why you know with the staff, they're cognizant. Believe me,
they'll be they'll be people counting place right and and
that's part of the whole communication system with the headset
with the coaches. You've got guys up in the booth

(09:18):
who are keeping track of all of that and communicating
down to the position coaches on the field. So yes,
that will definitely be tracked on Monday night.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
Yeah, oh no, I was just That's kind of what
I said yesterday about when comparing Rebel and Demo, is
that you've seen what Demo is capable of, and to
your point, the pitch count. We don't know how it's
going to go, but we know what he can do
on the field. No one really knows what looks like
in an NFL capacity, the speed and.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
What have you.

Speaker 10 (09:46):
But I do hope to see something because the way
they've been hyping them up Jerry and Evan Schottenheim a
little bit there, they're making it seem like they got
a guy in there to do some work and they
need a guy or two and that's well, we don't
know what it looks like with's on Rebel yet, but
we do know what it looks like around the NFL,
around the Star so far, we heard from a couple

(10:07):
of the guys in uh, well not in locker room,
but you know, they brought out the guys in the
Ford Center to give them some privacy this week in
the locker room hearing from a Solomon, Tom and Thomas
oh sod Yezua Dak Prescott, Ryan Flinoy.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
They gave us a nice little group on Brie. You
know what, Tom news Well, agree with.

Speaker 10 (10:28):
The receipts, Yes, just a little bit of a little
bit of a somber receipts if you will. It's been
heavy all week. It was the first time we heard
someone outside of dark Deck did speak the day of
the news came out Neyland just because he was doing
his field dedication and there was some reporters there. So
we got like that initial reaction, and I think I

(10:50):
mentioned it yesterday. I haven't been too excited or to
go back into the locker room just because I feel
like it's going to be a little bit of a
somber field. So I was very glad that pr so
we could still ask questions, but in a way that
we weren't in the locker room invading space. They like
you said, they brought us inside to their inside facility.

Speaker 11 (11:10):
But.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
Really who everyone we heard from. The thing that surprised
me the most was Flinoy. I guess I didn't realize
how close they were, and mentioned like we came in together,
we did double dates together, so you got to kind
of like see other size and everyone kind of shared
like a little story and they were all the same
that we've been hearing overall about the smile, the laughter,

(11:32):
the kind of person he was. And I think what
hit home and what we're going to share with you
guys is the part where there were asked. It was
kind of like when I heard the question, I was like,
but I guess it is.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's reality.

Speaker 10 (11:44):
It's what we're all thinking, Like, was there any signs
at least in the facility We don't know at home obviously,
but like in the facility and being around them that
he was, you know, down or going through it. And
the answer was no from everyone we heard. And we'll
let Chris play really quick.

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All right, we're gonna welcome back into Girls Star Boys
Talk present my visit line in the SABC studio Nicole Hudson,
Brianna Alders, Christy CL's i Asha Morrison.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Before we hear the sound, we should get that in a.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Couple of minutes. I want to hear from you all,
ladies on just you know, thoughts from you know, the
guys speaking yesterday, which took a lot of courage, but
I commend them for wanting to come out and talk
to us. Christy, what you got, I think.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Just the direct message that everyone's truly I think on
the same page in terms of the way that they
plan to honor Marshan and repeating what Coch Schottenheimer was
saying about, you can honor Marshan by playing like Marshan, right,

(15:20):
not just for the game Monday night against the Raiders,
but for the rest of the way.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
And so what does that mean? The question is how.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Do you define that and how will it manifest itself
on the field? And so the word that you keep
hearing over and over again is relentless and running to
the ball. And Dak said something interesting in terms of yeah,
you know when I thought about him a couple of times,
you know, during one of the drills, I just ran

(15:49):
harder after the handoff, carrying out the fake and things
like that.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
And so even the quarterback can do certain things.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
You know, you don't think of a quarterback as running
to the ball, but there are different things that he
can do effort wise and following through an execution of
a play. And so that's what really struck me was
that it was almost you know, the words were.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
A little bit different from each player, but the message
was basically the same.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
God breathe. We actually have the sound now, so I
want you to go ahead and take it away.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
All right.

Speaker 10 (16:18):
Well, again, we heard from a couple of different players,
and I think Christy, to your point, what hit hardest
for me was thinking about the guys who are in
the room with Nielan every single day and hearing from
them like Donovan Zarak we got to hear from I'm
like that would be hard to come up to, like
this is our space and to have not one of

(16:38):
my people here that I used to seeing.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
Every single day here and still do our job.

Speaker 10 (16:42):
Is how I'm picturing it for them. And again, what
some of the guys were talking about is the hardest
part to process it is there was no warning signs,
if you will, it just they just it just happened,
and they're just trying to cope. So we'll hear that
sound from Chris.

Speaker 16 (16:59):
There was no sound, as I said, across him a lot,
passing him a lot, through the hot tub, through cold tub,
through the training room, and far opposite of any signs.
I mean, there was never really isolation. There wasn't a
time that that you know, Marshaan wasn't talking or wasn't
open or putting smiles on people's faces. So so it's
tough to even, you know, talk to these these these
two things hand in hand, and for me it's it's

(17:21):
it's a moment of a cup ran over.

Speaker 11 (17:28):
No I mean no, I mean Marshaun was in the
building smalling every day, he was happy, he was listening
to music, he was dancing all the time. But that's
that's the thing with mental health and and suicide. You
just never know what someone's going through.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Or Solomon like it was like, I didn't know if
he was going to be able to get through that question.
But I think that's the natural. Again, going through that personally,
that's the first thing that goes through your mind, like
how did I how did I see it? What could
I have would have done? Even Filnoyd like I'm on
last of how close they were. You know, he had
those thoughts as well, but he's like, all I can

(18:06):
do now is you know, hope he's in peace, and
then play for my guy. And I think that's the
sentiment that we all from everybody who.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Talked to Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
And one thing Dak said was carry on the light,
carry on Marshawn's light. And I thought, that's a beautiful
way to put it. You honor him through your play.
You honor him by supporting his girlfriend and unborn child.
You they'll be the things with the T shirts and
the decals, they'll be a wonderful tribute when we get

(18:36):
back to at and T Stadium, a pregame on the
big board before the Eagles game, and you know, but
also just the things you do every day and the
way you treat your teammates and staff, and Shoddy, I
thought said something beautifully earlier than this week because we
all say how you doing? Right, how you doing? And

(18:58):
he says, the real question is how are you feeling?
I thought, Wow, that's that's a really great way difference,
big difference.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
He gets it.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, And I guess my takeaway from listening to the coaches,
listening to Shoddy talk, listen to the players in the
locker room is you know, despite the fact that they
are going through this, they sound very focused, sod very focused.
You know, sometimes these things happen and it puts stuff
in perspective for you. It makes you sit with again
when we've talked about it makes you sit with how

(19:28):
you can show up better, what you can be doing
to be a better person. And for so for me
as we talk about the football side of things and
getting back into the groove of the football side of things,
things like this happen, not particularly this, but sometimes events
happen with teams, sports, teams and whoever, and.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
It it can go either way. You know.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
That's what Shotty was mentioning, is like some guys are
gonna get on the field and play for him. Some
guys are gonna get on the field and it's going
to hurt them. Like to feel that he's not there.
But I just thought the overall focus for everyone coming
off of a bye, which a lot of people are
always worried coming off of a bye, a buye of
what the team's focus is going to be, Like how
do they get back in a groove? From what it

(20:09):
sounds like, they had a really good practice and they
that's what Dak Prescott said, and you know, they have
one of their great practice and they're in a mindset
where they are not only focused, you know, to you know,
play for Marshan, but also too to understand like how
quickly this can go, how quickly this things can change
for you, that life is not you know life, life

(20:30):
can be.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Short, you know.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
And so sometimes with that perspectively, we see we see
teams lock in, we see players lock in, And I
think the focus is what I took away from the
overall interviews and oppressors yesterday.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, even Sholdia mentioned that yesterday he felt just good
to be back because he was encouraged by the energy
that you know, the guys kind of had. And it's
not because they're forgetting about Marshawn. It's because they have
their brothers back. They're back in the building. You know,
their back playing hoops and things like that in the
team meeting room and you know, all that good stuff.

(21:04):
So he's excited about, you know, getting back to, of course,
doing what he loves to do with the people that
he loves to do it with. But on that second note,
where you're going to take our second break here on
Girls Talk, Boys Talk, and actually first break we took
our Wow, this is our second break already shows going
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(21:24):
Boys Talk, and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 5 (24:03):
Breen with the stands, Christy with the fact Friday night
lights no time to relax.

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I got the facts, has the move, I got the.

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The song?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I love that song.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
I love that song says your favorite day, favorite day,
I love day.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I love that.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
I love that as it should be because I know
it's bulls Eye or Bush.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You're so sick. It's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
That felt good to say, Wow.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
All right already for this Dallas Cowboys Raiders addition, own.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
I should go.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's Max I am Jake Ferguson will.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Finish with the most targets in the game.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Hmm.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
Wow, that's an intriguing one.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
And car I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
I think there's a lot of opportunity in this game
because we talked about it yesterday about tight ends abusing
the Raiders a little bit, especially when you throw two
in there. I think it's because Ferguson, if I'm not mistaken,
last two games have gone down a little bit in targets.
For I mean, the whole offense has gone down the
last two weeks, to be fair, not just Ferguson. But

(25:40):
I think you'll have a solid game for sure. But
I don't think you'll have the most targets.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
I'm gonna go bus, but I share resentiment.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I'll go Bullseye because I think that they've given up
some pressures on Dak that's not reflected in sacks, but
he's been on duress for a couple of games, and
that that reader's defense is better than people. Thank you
guys really broke it down yesterday. I thought, y'all, guys,
you guys did an awesome job of breaking it down,
and so I can see where there's not time for

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everything to develop down the field. So yes, I think
it's probable that Jake will lead in targets like.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
It Bullseye or bust.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Cavante Turpin will have three plays of more than thirty yards.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
Bust, It's gonna be bus for me.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
Oh does that include returns?

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yes, Oh, it includes reclu Can I just say that
it has been very disappointing in the return game. This
show very disappointed. I agree, So this could be a
breakthrough game for that And in fact, I had you
know the Cowboys have oh.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
In the backglass class. It's in a song.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
I gotta play into the song that the Cowboys are
twenty eighth in the league and punt returns twenty six
then the league and kickoff returns. But the thing is,
the Raiders are allowing a lot on punt returns, so
this could be a game where Cavante can break out
of that slump. But I think three of thirty yards

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plus is too hopeful, So I'm gonna go bust.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, a.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Bullseye or.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Bust.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Sorry I needed that one.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
That was really good, all right?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The Cowboys rush for one hundred and eighty yards against
the Raiders as a team.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
In this one game or the next two. Oh, okay,
as a team?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Do we still just have Davante Williams.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
I didn't think she was gonna say eighty.

Speaker 12 (27:50):
Ye.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
I was waiting for a twenty.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Nope, it's gonna be a bust for me.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
But I do think because this Raiders defensive line we
talked about it yesterday, they played the run pretty well.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
So well, they played the run better than what you
would expect.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
I guess you want to say, with with their record
and how they look, but uh no, that's a lot
of yards.

Speaker 8 (28:11):
On the ground. I do that. I think.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I do think that Dak is gonna have some opportunities
to use his legs in this game. We've seen him,
We've seen an uptick in that in the last two weeks,
despite the losses so combined, you could have maybe hit
me with the one fifty. I would have been I
would agree with the.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Yeah, I'm gonna go, but on that one sorry, running team,
running game.

Speaker 9 (28:40):
Good, prove us wrong. We hope he run that part.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
That would be wild?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Why got me first? Because you first?

Speaker 8 (28:48):
Okay, I got Stop holding the mic like I'm well,
I can't get it out.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Wait you want us to look away or no.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Somebody else go? I got it.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
I can't find my boys today. Have faith in you
bullseye or bus.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I don't know. Brita isn't looking bread.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It makes okay? Yeah, okay, I know a lot of breath.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'm nervous.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
We haven't had to do it in a long time.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I know.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
It's kind of a lot.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Of pressure, is it.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, you just gotta practice at home.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
Man, have them do it.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
See if they don't feel pressure.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
To have them NeXT's fine, no't worry about it. Dak
will throw zero interceptions against the Raiders.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I'm gonna go bullseye. Yeah, I did Bullseye with faith.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Yeah, with faith.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
We talked about their past Rush it ain't he ain't
that great. This offensive line should be able to hold
up and take care of Dak Prescott. I'm going bullseye, Yeah,
bulls eye.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
They only have ten takeaways the whole season in nine games.

Speaker 9 (29:56):
Son day, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I wish we had like a thing to throw like dark.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
If we can't decide if we tie, then we'll throw
at the dart. We'll throw the dart board, and that
will be the determined bulls eye.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Where's the dart board is gonna go?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
The dark board? Where's it gonna go?

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Very good? Can you even play darts?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Very well?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Can you play dark?

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Are they gonna allow us a sharp optionect? It may
be an HR violation.

Speaker 9 (30:29):
We'll see if we can.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
They got the little bell crow one like for the
for the kindergarteners.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
HR call being what do they have going on your
turn break?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
That's funny.

Speaker 10 (30:44):
I remember saying I'll do this one time and every week.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
But that's fine because I'm a team player.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Here we go it.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Bullseye or bus.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
How do you get so much at the end?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
That is one I think I'm going to I think
I need to come down a couple of actives.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
All right, it's all good. Cowboys will allow.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Less than two sacks.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
I'll go bulls Eye because I think Dak will get
get rid of the ball. I mean, even with Denver,
there were only two sacks in that game.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Uh yeah the Raiders. Uh, the Raiders are averaging about two.
I think they're averaging two sacks a game, so I
guess that would kind of be on par. But I
want to say I had some Oh since I said
I think I said the other day. I know we've
been hard on the offensive line, but since we five,
the Cowboys are eleventh of past blocking and tenth in

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pressure rate. So it hasn't always looked pretty. But statistically
they are kind of holding the four down.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Yeah, and the Raiders defense pressure rate is bad.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
It's third worst in the.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
League's pretty low.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm gonna go bullseye.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna go bulls I think they can
that we talked about it. He's taken like the even
getting beat up last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Please keep him up the floor.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
That part, Christy is your turn, come on down, bulls
eye or but.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
She was ready.

Speaker 9 (32:08):
I was ready.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, Christy had a practice second time too confident. Yeah yeah, Nickelodeon,
like commercials, it's good.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Hers was good commercial It's crazy, but it was really good,
really really good.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm very proud of you, Dallas.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Dallas will score on their first two offensive possessions in
both halves.

Speaker 9 (32:33):
Oh gosh, I.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Know, I wish we'll go bus, you wish.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
From what I have seen consistently, it would be nice too.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Was the first.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
I think it's sets the tone of this game immediately,
and I think like Raiders are the team right now
where their season is done. This is evaluation time. This
is people fighting for their jobs time. And I really
feel like a couple series, even though I don't think
they'll score on the first to open on both halves,

(33:09):
and for the this is this is a time to
really kind of like what the Chiefs did to them.
I think this is a perfect opportunity for the Cowboys
to really like step on their neck.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
And this is a team that's this is a.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
Team that's coming in already down in perspective, so I
think this is a time where the Cowboys could really
take advantage and do what they're supposed to do against
two and seventeen.

Speaker 9 (33:34):
Yeah, yeah, agreed, Bust.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
If you said the Cowboys would score their first two
drives and one of the halfs, I would have said,
I would have maybe gone bullseye, But I think that's
too aggressive.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yeah, I'm going bullseye.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Oh yeah, I'm going bullseye. Uh coming off the spy.
That's something that Dallas has.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
What you say, they feel like you're the only one.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah, but I said, I want to say that that's
something that early in the season, I felt like they
were doing well, was going down and scoring on the
first drive and stuff. They've been getting killed with penalties
as they've been receiving the ball more and stuff, and
so it's like, okay, and then you saw them and
the middle eight do pretty well, you know, for several
weeks post by.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Have y'all figured it out?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Have y'all figured out how to put it together to
go out and score, be aggressive, put them on their heels,
and then also to make sure that after the half.
The third quarter has not been very good for the Cowboys,
and that hasn't been very good to the Cowboys.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
That's something moving forward that they have to work on.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
I'm assuming that they've probably been talking about over the
bye go go put it on the field.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
I want to see it.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
What do you well, Nicole, what do you think.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
She like?

Speaker 9 (34:47):
Yeah, she just throws it out there.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
I'm asking the question.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm just asking.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
I'm just asking a question.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Okay, bulls eye or bus better?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
The Cowboys will have.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Their best third down defensive performance of the season.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
Bullseye.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I mean, hell, if it's a time to do it.

Speaker 10 (35:13):
It's against the Raiders who go three and out notoriously,
So I'm gonna go bullseye.

Speaker 9 (35:19):
Okay, yeah, bullsye.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
Yeah I said what I said.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
I meant yeah, I think they're gonna be better.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
They're actually a little better on third down than I
thought they would be.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
The offensively, we were talking about it like they're.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Confusing me because they're they're they're bad in the red zone,
but they're better on third down. But it's just weird
because they're so bad running the football and in time
of possession that you would think it's well, they're obviously
failing on third down, but what are they gambling out there?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
They just running in circles, That's what No.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
I'm serious' When you start.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Looking like when you look at the film and then
you look at the statistics and you start looking at them, you're.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Like, that does not make sense.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's the same thing we said about Arizona, Like what
we saw on tape against Dallas is not what we
had really seen the weeks prior.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
So it's like you don't know what to believe.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
You don't know what to believe.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Oh lord, I don't like it. We're being gas lit.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
It's fine, yeah, they're literally they're literally halfway. I'm sorry,
don't know. You know you're going to interrupt your full side.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
But the Cowboys just to put a sorry, the glasses
are on. I have to give the facts. It was
in the song. The Cowboys defense is absolutely the worst
in league on third down, absolutely the worst. And the
Raiders are right in the middle. They're number fifteen offensively
and third downs, but their numbers are way down at

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the bottom for just about everything else.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Already, execution problem.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
It's just your turn again again.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, you need to redeem yourself.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Oh redeem myself.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Now I feel more pressure.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
I can't got this anxiety off.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's fine. We have faith in you, I promise you.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
We have faith in you. You got it, Okay, got it.
She doesn't have any faith I said, it's not believable. Okay,
bullseye or bus.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
There you go. I was nice much better. Yeah, I
got a.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Little bit of it.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
I try to put a little bit more bass. Y'all
look good at the base part about that base?

Speaker 8 (37:23):
About that base. I'm sounded like an animaniac.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
My whole life figures will win the time of possession?
Battle agains Dallas?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
What will win the time of I gotta do both sides.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
It's gonna be a bus for me. I'm a faint
if that's the case, super buss. What is I'll say,
bust is what in the actual But what we just said,
they're not going to convert any third downs.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
You know, Emirs, though, can I say something?

Speaker 13 (38:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (38:01):
Who cares about time of possession? I mean, it's so so.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Over it's just But at the same time, this is
a team on the other side that does not have
explosive plays like that down the field. Dallas does have
explosive plays down the fend. You could run into a
place to where you are scoring very quickly and things
like that, and they're trying to play keep away from
your offense. But they're still not converting or they're not

(38:27):
getting past the fifty or they're not converting in the
red zone. So maybe it could happen and Dallas could
still win the game.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
But yeah, bulls eye or Bust.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I didn't like that one.

Speaker 9 (38:42):
The stakes are high in here, buy brace the bar.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Look bulls eye or bust. That was it.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
It's just a little growl in there. It's the ground.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
The Raiders will hold Dallas to under twenty points, they
bet not.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
What is going I gotta do both sides. I can't.
We can't just be all Dallas three, you know.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Like them.

Speaker 10 (39:12):
The Raiders are not gonna score over twenty and Dallas
is going to score at least thirty. In my mind,
there's like a really crazy stat with the Raiders about
thirty points that I heard on the radio when I
was driving the other day. It was like forty three
games where they haven't reached thirty plus points.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah. So if they do that, I'm gonna need some
time to myself.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I'm gonna take off next week.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
We need some time myself.

Speaker 14 (39:35):
Now.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
I'm gonna be very rattled if that happens.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Are you gonna take off two?

Speaker 6 (39:41):
No, I'm gonna be here cool at least we know
we'll have two three wis you have to bush busts.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Easy bust Sorry, cool, last one.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
I'm scared for this one.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Bulls eye are busted. That needs work.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't know why you.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Look at me like that.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
You look like I just wait for the question.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
All right, Jamal Adams will force to turnover.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
That's a deep breath.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
It's possible, it's possible. I hate it that it's possible.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Hey, we gotta do both sides.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
You know now, I think you did a great job
breaking it down yesterday. How you know where he's playing
and close to the ball and in the box and
all that. So he's a catalytic player.

Speaker 9 (40:29):
At least it used to be.

Speaker 8 (40:31):
I'm a bus.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
I'm gonna go bus. Even the quietness is given that
some people may go the other way. I'm gonna go bus.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Bullseye because ball security
has been kind of weird.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Past couple weeks, especially past couple of weeks. The running
backs tight ends, the running backs hold on to that ball.
It's possibly.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
All right, Well that's a raight.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
For Bullseye or bus.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
We're gonna take our second break, last break. Dang no,
we don't get them eight. It's fine, Christy, you got
a fun fact?

Speaker 9 (41:03):
I do down.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Do you guys want a football fun fact or like
an overall like non football a stadium fun fact because
this is a really unique place that we're playing football,
Jen State footballly. Okay, So we talked about how bad
they are with the run game Ashton genty who literally
just played just down the road here Frisco Lone Star

(41:25):
High School. This is I think this is a game
where the Cowboys run defense can make up some ground
and improve statistically.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
This really shocked me.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
You know, he's averaging just three point seven yards per carry,
but twenty nine percent of his runs for the entire
season have been tackles for loss or no game.

Speaker 9 (41:49):
Incredible twenty percent. Twenty eight point seven.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
I'm going to round up to twenty nine percent, So
between a quarter and a third of his runs this
year have either.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
Been tackles for loss or no game.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Now, a lot of that has to do with offensive line,
and you've been talking about it all week, and so yeah,
there's some issues, and it looks like one of their
guards is going to be back. But powers Johnson is
going to be out, and they're still without Colton Miller,
who's been out since Week four. So it's not all
on genty, you know, it's he hasn't had a lot

(42:21):
of space to run.

Speaker 9 (42:23):
But I found that shocking.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
Which guard?

Speaker 6 (42:26):
So Kappa's gonna play the one that'll be back? What
para he's gonna he's gonna play. It looks like at
least he was able to practice, So let me look
at that. They're gonna par him. They're gonna have their
left guard, but their right guard, Powers Johnson was placed
on injured reserves. So Kapa's a guy who's played a

(42:47):
lot in the league, has over eighty career starts, was
the starting guard for Tampa when they had the run
to the super Bowl, when the Super Bowl with Tom Brady,
so it's not like they're putting in a guy with
no experience. But there's been a lot of flux with
that O line and it's reflected in Gentie's numbers. Okay,

(43:07):
the other fun fact, I'll do it real quick, just
because it's so cool. Okay, when you're watching the game,
you're going to see the thing at Allegiance Stadium where
there's the Al Davis Memorial Torch that's behind the North
End zone and it's this giant it's eighty five feet
tall and it's like this eternal flame. Okay, what's cool
about that is it's one of the largest three D

(43:29):
printed objects in the world. So you ever seen a
three D printer like, In fact, you can buy them
at just about anywhere, buy them on Amazon and make
your own coffee cup or whatever. But there's a place
in Kansas City that's a three D printer and they
make like huge propellers and it's all you know, like
aviation parts and things like that. And so this particular

(43:53):
place there in Kansas City made the Al Davis Memorial Torch.
And so it's a three it's a three deep rented object.
It looks like this giant sculpture. And then the flame
isn't a real flame. It looks really cool. But that's
an LED projection. So you're going to see it on TV.
They're going to show it a lot.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I just love the only Christy Can.

Speaker 9 (44:13):
I love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 8 (44:14):
So you expect them for it. Is it gonna be
a lot of cowboys.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Fans the oh my gosh, yes, Yeah, that's the destination
that and so you know how so far, whoever plays it,
so far, they the fans seem to take.

Speaker 9 (44:26):
Over the thing.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
It's that way a lot with Vegas because that's a
destination one where if you're going.

Speaker 9 (44:31):
To go to win away. Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
And the Cowboys, this will be the first regular season
game they've ever played in Vegas. We'd only played there,
not this summer, but the previous summer in preseason. The
ticket prices are out rageous, about three hundred and eighty
dollars for upper deck corner of the inn zone.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Now you can't see the field.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
How the thing, here's the thing. The stadium only seats
sixty three thousand people.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
It's very small.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
They averaged thirty thousand less a game than at and
T Stadium. At and T Stadium is by far the
largest seating capacity and standing room capacity. The Cowboys average
about ninety three and a half thousand people per game.
And the Vegas it's it's always sold out. There are
always a lot of visiting fans. And believe me, I

(45:18):
promise you it will be a Cowboy takeover on Monday Night.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
I believe it.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
They fans I was creeping and they fans hit. They don't,
they're tired of it. Mixed strike not coming.

Speaker 10 (45:28):
If they had two wins, and y'all want three eighty
for the NOSEBLEEDZ. I'm not coming to eat.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I'm not paying on three eighty from no other bleed.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
I angolize your thank you for telling us about that part.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Yeah sure, sure, yeah yeah. And Colton Miller, you know,
not having him that's been a big deal.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
You know, he's he's.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
A good, a decent left tackle, but he's on IR.
So so two of their starting five offensive linemen are
on IR.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
What would they draft?

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Gent?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm tired of I'm telling y'all this is.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
A rant, and I'm we're gonna go.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
I I'm tired of teams drafting players that they know
do not fit.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
What the heck they do? I'm sick of it. I'm
sick of it.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Boll We're not gonna be sick of Monday Night because
we're expecting to win out of the Cowboys. It's gonna
be a fun one to.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Watch, but that is the rapper. Today's show, we have.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
A special tribute to Marshawn Neeland. Again, we are praying
for his loved ones, his family, his friends, his girlfriend, Catalina,
this entire team's organization. But for Brionna Aldridge, Christy Scales,
Aisha Morrison, I'm Nicole Hutchison. We'll see y'all back here
next week.

Speaker 16 (46:31):
I heard from Marshawn. I heard for his family, I
heard for his girlfriend. I heard for every single one
of my teammates. This is a pain that you don't
wish upon anybody who who you wish none of us
had to go through this. You wish Marshan didn't have
to go through it.

Speaker 11 (46:48):
Had he went through.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
The fifty six pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,
the Dallas Cowboys select Marshawan.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
Marshall.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
This is growl McLear from the Cowboys, and I got
somebody wants to talk to you here in just a second.

Speaker 11 (47:05):
Hey man, I can't tell you how excited we are.
You're a phenomenal fit for us.

Speaker 14 (47:10):
There.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
We'll wait down man. I'm here, a coach, I'm here.

Speaker 16 (47:14):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (47:14):
Man, I just can't wait to get down there.

Speaker 13 (47:16):
O'donald as it blocks into the m.

Speaker 12 (47:20):
Zone in a race and a touchdown Sam Williams blocking
kneeling the touchdown.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
It started from when I was younger, I always had
that you know drive that oh tena say of like Okay,
I want to be on the field. I want to
be on the field. You give me a second on
the field, and I'm gonna show you why blowing here.
So I'm just starting from like middle school coaches telling
me like, you know you're gonna go places with this,
you know what I mean? And you know, I kind
of like take part in that cause whether they was
telling me that for fake or they actually seen something

(47:53):
that's like shooting out, we're here. I think it just
like comes from as a child, just always wanted to
be in there, and I tried not to take anything
for granted. Sometimes it happens, and you know, you got
to talk to yourself and be like, you know, like
I always wanted to be here, so let's not take
it for granted.

Speaker 12 (48:12):
After hers back pressure, are they gonna actually shack him?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
How about that ninety four marshaw Nayla.

Speaker 14 (48:28):
His smile could take you to your knees, and in
terms of him as an athlete, no one had a
better motor.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
Moms She never complained, never's talked about it, never stressed
think about it, like she never showed us anything, you
know what I'm saying. So she never h She every
day came with a smile, came with love, probably without
a shadow of doubt. One of the hardest workers I
ever know in my life, and like did it with
a smile on her face, happy.

Speaker 16 (48:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
So I really take hard or not. And honestly, I've

(49:18):
never been too big of a static person. I always
just as long as I anytime you look back on film,
you feel me as long as you look back on there,
and it's like, Okay, I'm running around, I'm knocking heads back,
doing what I can and do it and doing it
to the best of my ability. You know, I'm happy
with that.

Speaker 16 (49:47):
I heard from Mark Shana