November 24, 2025 • 49 mins
Celebrating the Cowboys victory over the Eagles with the old Cowboys offensive line up and down when victory used to be secured back in the day, and this one because of an amazing 21-point comeback, thanks to the defense, Dak Prescott, George Pickens, Jake Ferguson, despite a missed punt deflection and fourth down gambles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot
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the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
(00:23):
Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Go better believe.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How boy.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Stamp?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yes, it's a beautiful sound, the sounds of a victory
Monday here inside the SBbc podcast studio with a tour
looking on as well.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Like we always do it this time. Come on, Billy,
don't don't, don't let us down.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yes, welcome to a victory victory, let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
Vicky, how come you're not smiling?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And he was trying to convince one of us to
take the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Ah, somebody was, y'all was on your way. You thought
we were.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Now figured I figured, you know, but you guys. Man
didn't let me down, You guys.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
I would have been the one probably to break the chain,
because you know, I was so disappointed in the timeliness
of all of this, So you probably thought it was
gonna be me.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I did, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
As it turned out, Everson was genius with us genius.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
That's what he told us on our group text.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Come on, why does the game moment?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
He said something about picks to click and genius.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Twenty four to twenty was what I picked.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, you didn't even get the spread right.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Twenty four to twenty you were.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I was as close.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
I was closer than anyone twenty to seventeen who.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Picked twenty is seventeen right here? I think that's pretty close.
That's a three point spread.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
That's right, that's close. Spags, You're way off. Seventeen thirty
to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Thirty, twenty seven, thirty twenty. I can't even take notes.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, you're over, You're over, You're way over.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I went down nine twenty three. We'll give you the
dack score.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I give you the death though, uh, Spags, because you
said that.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I missed on my pick to click, I know that
you ain't lying.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
What was your pick?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Redemption game back to CD.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
We got to talk about that. We gotta talk about that.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
My shot we know we talked about So no, I'm
going close. I said for two touchdown. He didn't have
two testdowns, but he was extremely instrumental in two testdown drives.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The extremely there's no argument who pick click was who?
Dak Prescott ain't no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And then Arby heck Arby Yeah, bada.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He missed a field goal.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
No, don't do that. Hey, this was when you guys
have to come on. I just I want to talk
about those first that first quarter and a half. Okay,
you think now that first quarter and a half, what
did your Where was your mind when it was twenty one?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Did you automatically just say to yourself, here we go again.
This is about to be a forty five to sixteen drumming.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No. Where did you start to believe the win? Did
this age?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I said to myself, there's still eleven minutes to go
in the second quarter, and there's another half to play.
If they could score one touchdown, get it to fourteen,
you got a chance to win the game.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I also had the feeling, as Philly's offense often does
in the second half, they sputtered. This is a patent
that they have, and I just figured since we were
I always think for some.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Reason, home field advantage.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
I don't believe in that, but it's just the way
it is, home field advantage. I knew that we would
stay in the game spiritually, and we did not get
two down on ourselves as if we would have been
on the road.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Let's talk about the fact that this defense we said
about Saquon Barkley in this matchup is that we had
to limit the explosive plays. They came right out and
they did that. They limited his explosive plays. He didn't
gas you the guys the usual suspects that you expected.
Aj Brown Obviously he was going to have a good
game the second It took a little bit of time
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to start to manufacturing the pressure from a defensive end.
But once those guys started, look, call them cover sacks,
call them whatever you want to, but Jalen Hurts was
having to go to his first, second, third read and
when it wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And that's all covers.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
This is a team we've been talking about zone man,
all of those different things. What a difference having a
pass rush that you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Man, Wait a minute, let's go back to the first question.
When did you give up a no no will?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You asked us one no, no, no, no. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I didn't give up anything.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
And what I was seeing in real time was the
same thing you were seeing is George Pickings, George Pickens
man the man on the outside, and.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That when it was twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I was cussing mad. I was cussing mad. You get gone, No, No,
I was cussing mad. Yeah, I was cussing mad. But
at the same time, I'm like, we are shooting ourselves
in the foot. We're shooting ourselves in the foot with
the penalties that number one that first.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Quarter were frustrating.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The Cowboys are so good they couldn't even beat themselves,
and that's something.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Well, I didn't come out. I didn't come up with that,
but you're right, they were trying to. They were damn
so well. And I think what I saw was, once again,
I saw the pattern. I didn't think I thought we
would come out second half the way we did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I saw offensively, we were.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Still moving the ball enough to where if we don't
keep shooting ourselves in the foot, we'll be just fine.
And also it was just like the first game, even
though we had no regular or anything like that. I
knew that we would make adjustments. I knew we would
make because we've done that before. We made those defensive adjustments,
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especially in the secondary. Because what I was getting upset
about was Okay, these are our young dbs. We're bringing
them in so that they can have some more energy,
play a little smarter. Well, the first half, for some reason,
we kept opening up the inside routes for them. I
don't know why we always do that. But the second
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half we shut all of that down. All of a sudden,
were playing inside leverage man the man, and that's what
was allowing Jalen Hurst to have to eat it because
he wanted to come with the quick slants and those
uh sceam routes. We shut that down from a defensive
standpoint in the second half. And that's that's eber Flush
at work right there.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, if you remember they moved the ball in the
first half, right they had two hundred eleven yards offense.
How many penalties, Well, don't worry about the penalties.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Exactly second half they.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Had they had an interception in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Which we should have been the PI.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And they yeah, because he grabbed it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He grabbed and that gave him the leverage and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They were moving the football. When Turpin trips and then
when he falls forward, I went back and looked at it.
He's got the ball on don't you beat us and
his arm hits his offensive lineman's leg and he fumbles.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's his nephew had tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
If you want the truth, just come to me. Look,
but they're moving the fu. They shot themselves in the
foot twice. They should have had, you know.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
And that's one reason I was not too concerned exactly,
was that we're at home and we're going to overcome
those penalties. I was just hoping the defense could hold on.
And in the second half. That's the weakness to me
of the Philadelphia Eagles offense. They come out in the
second half thinking it's going to be status quo. And
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that's how they've been in some of the tough games
that they've been in, because they don't make adjustments in
that second half.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And and and then in the first half. Also throw
in the fact that okay, first three possessions, things go bad, right,
one of them shouldn't have because they tipped the punt man.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I don't know about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What's Bill Vinovitch looking at.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
The top about this?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Man?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Why do you have to I mean, why do you
have to go back and and waste a review on
something that is clearly obvious? And if y'all got cameras
in everywhere in.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
New York, like there on the time clock, like they're
a real clock to Well, we don't have time to
check that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Did you see what the replay guy said from New York?
They didn't have the enhanced view. I'll be that TV showed. No, No,
the guy is butter something.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, you're supposed to have everything you need.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, they didn't. They didn't. They didn't feel like they
needed to see because they said the Cowboys didn't challenge it,
and then that show that view didn't come up till
several plays later, right, and so had he challenged it,
then they would have had to stop the game, and
then they could have maybe did not see that it
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was I don't know, he's standing right there, How does
he not see that? He should have heard it. Now
I heard on the Did you.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
In the stadium where you're at the game?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Okay, well in the stadium, no, No, I'm not talking
about sound the punt itself, yes, where the where it
was fielded was forty yards downfield. But you could see
what we can't see on television is the flutter of
the bar or anything.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'm at the game, you could it's.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Clear I mean, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, at.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
That ball was at the point of contact that that
it was that it was doubt.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
It's on the Cowboys for not challenging.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's right, and that's what And Flinoy was going like
this to the reference. So Flinoy's got to tell the coach, hey,
we got to challenge this.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, well, I mean, but did some kind of way.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
The coaches the head coach might be looking at something
that he may not be looking up at the ball.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
No, but somebody has got to tell something.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Number one. The sound on the field for the radio
broadcast picked up the double hit. Okay, okay, and Schottenheimer
said the look they had from above what they saw
on the replay didn't show enough to challenge it. So
now he's got to take noise word for you, right right?
(11:22):
And I would have yes, yes, It's not like the
NBA when something happens it's right right, yeah. I don't
believe those guys for one minute. But this guy was
adamant about he touched the ball. But Vinovich is standing
right there. How does he not see what's he looking at?
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What's he looking at? I told you watch out for
that East Coast bias.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
They tried to play out we got a running into it.
We had a running into the kicker, which I thought
was a personal foul.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
To make it simple, if you have a question, the
special teams coach should just go over to floridaid, hey,
did you touch it?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I go to the head coach. He touched it, and
let's go. That's it. And it's early in the second half.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
On first half it's seven to nine, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Use your challenge. It's okay, it's in the first half.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Now it's fourteen to nothing. Right, and then.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Well here's the other part of that.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
All right, I'm looking further at that drive. Okay, so
you don't challenge. They get a first down, Okay, they
go aj Brown for twelve yards to the plus forty
nine yard line. Incomplete, incomplete. It's third and ten incomplete.
But Jadavian Clowney lined up off sides, and I was
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yelling at my television at the time, back up your yes,
that wasn't the first play that he had lined up
off sides, right, and you're off the field if he
doesn't line up off sides and they're punting the ball.
Well with these days, he's NFL coaches. He might have
gone on fourth and tent, but you're getting off the
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field with the punt. Doesn't matter at that point, right,
Just because you don't get that call doesn't mean they
have to go eighty yards for a touchdown right on
that drive, which is what they basically will.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Now it's fourteen to nothing. Then Hurtz throws a double
hair Mary. The pass was so bad that DeVonta Smith
makes fun of the lack whatever the hell his name is,
DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Dame, you know exactly he has been had.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Name.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Man, Can I make my point? Yes, thank you, because
none of you are going to make it. That pass
was so bad he had to make an unbelievable catch.
Right if it was a good pass, Carson's going to
break it up. And now it's twenty.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
One because he was he was he was headed up
with and there was so you know it though actually
to the outside shoulder.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what this was. It was the nineteen ninety
four NFC title game. Once again, they opened how the
Cowboys started that game. In seven minutes, they turned the
ball over three times and it was twenty one to nothing.
San Francisco interception on the first possession for a touchdown,
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a lost fumble.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
With three Hall of Fame players, Yes, who committed turno,
But it was Switzer's fault.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, of course, Michael Irvin fumble. And then on the
ensuing kickoff after they made it fourteen to nothing, Kevin
Williams fumbles the kickoff. Now it's twenty one to nothing
and there was still seven point thirty three to play
in the first quarter, and they came within Dion Sanders
not getting called for interference on Michael Irvin from cutting
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that lead to three points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Well, Dion's that's the first and only time I've ever
seen Dion whipped and.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He got was handling his butt. It was hanging on forever.
So they came back. So when I saw twenty one
to nothing, it's like, there's still a lot of football
to play, and.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There we are again. Here we are again. I never
gave up hope.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
As a matter of fact, I expected that they would
come back. The interception in the end zone that did Uh,
that was unnecessary because if I recall, we had done
something to put ourselves in that position.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh god, oh false start.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, the false start. That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do you know what when he left the game? I
think it was fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I wrote the time, Well, Thomas got thirty one snaps.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I want to say that they never announced the injury
what he had right like, go oh, he's questionable. Never
came back in the game. Nate Thomas finished and Nate
that's where they were running. They were running between the
left tackle and left guard, those big runs that Williams
and he never came back. And that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
One more for the doghouse, though.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Exactly exactly the man got the red incs.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I have to say that that, Yeah, that just.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It reminded me of two years ago so much to where,
you know what, let's just go ahead and and and
Murphy's law this thing, because you know, as soon as
we start messing up, we.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Just pile on we just pole it on ourselves.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
And for for that to turn around to such a fiasco,
of course, you know, we're looking for the referee to
make the call.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
He's not going to make the car Oh well, we
still got to make them. Too.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Much of that's going on. That's how the Cowboys usually
rolled this game. It did not have anything to do
with the outcome of the game.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
And you guys have an historical reference from nfcas I
mean NFC championship games and all of that. This season
when the Cowboys have had lost the league like that,
you've seen them tank, You've seen the mentality of the team.
You could tell by the body language on the sideline.
There's so much about the play style that changes because
they're down big.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That never changed.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
And in that second quarter when it just felt like
game on, as soon as George Pickens got caught that touchdown,
like now you're down by fourteen, and now you got
a whole second half to look forward to. Now, either
you're going to be in a shootout, but you are
going to have to limit something and you've already taken
away Saquon Barkley. And Saquon Barkley finished this game with
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twenty two yards.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And if I had told you that on Friday.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You would have said, when you're lying to me, no, no,
I'll take it.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
I believe because we we we did. We did similar
in the first game. I figured that you know Barkley
and the Eagles, that's an issue that they are having
and I figured I was hoping it will continue in
this game. He just hadn't been getting the production they're
supposed to get. But it's funny how you know when
you add these players to the to the team and
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then there's this optimism all over the place. We sat
here and talked badly about a guy named Sam Williams
and how he's not producing, and yet he has come
up with two of probably the biggest plays that a
damn man.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
To Williams.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Haven't said that. We did.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
We did, we did, and we were as I told
you guys last week, we got to be stubborn with it,
and we were stubborn. We never gave up on the run.
We had to be stepping with the run. But to
watch Sam Williams come through and make that play on Barkley,
I thought that was really That's when I knew we
got this game. That's when I knew this team is there.
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Number thirty eight.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Clark, Elijah Clark.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Elijah Clark probably go to high school, Elijah Clark with
the with the with the with You talk about Sam
Williams and he did come up big, but special teams
and we needed it was a complete team effort.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
But I think that play right there.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No matter how this season goes, if it is the
big turnaround, all of those things, you got to take
that play capsulated and just say this is how the
Cowboys turned their season around with the play like that.
That was all hard.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Scenes hadn't been doing all that, the special team coverage
hadn't been that great. But when you look at that play,
that's why it's a team game, guys, Because first you
saw twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I'm sorry Thompson. Thompson number twenty nine for the Cowboy.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Yes, CJ.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Good One, so's a good one. I always say good one. TJ.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Goodwin started that entire thing off. He did not allow
that runner to get full speed and just come straight.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Up to find that way.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
That runner Xavier Gibson, and he'side a Woodrow Wilson High
School in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
He knew that. He knew that.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
And by the way, Elijah Clark from Camden High School
in camb Now, I already knew the Woodrow Wilson, but
I didn't know the New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
But everybody knows Elijah Clark now because he is going
viral on every social media.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And if you see the play.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
You see that good one was the first one to
make that play happen by not allowing him to proceed
up the field. He made him go lade using the
blocker almost like he was setting the edge.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
That's what gave.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Elijah n forty four whatever his name is, what's his name?
You don't know the whole sick. You saw three people
running in Unison. Clark Holder a snapper.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He don't even bother with guys didn't know his.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Name either, had I one I knew his name. I've
never seen that guy in my life. I've never seen
that guy in my life.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Got it like a three year contract, and I have
never seen him snap my life. That's because he's not
like illustrated.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
He is not.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And so having said that, you have four people on
that play that made a good one stopped him from
going upfield.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Elijah Clark, did I say his name? Elijah Clark?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Keen a Elijah with Elijah with an and Keen and
and uh sig big sick.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Got to eat in high school and eating Colorad.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
And Bell in Unison. You saw the pursuit of the
running in Unison, and when that when that play was made,
pretty much all three of those guys here him at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Hey Bill, that's a team game. It's a team game.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
If he's if Elijah's by himself, he's not going to
make that play. Goodwin had to do his job. He
had to get his butt up off the off the
turf make the play. And so was Bell and who else?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Six sig which spelled s I E G.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Big get it all three all three four about guys.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
He's got a snap in every one of those sixty
yard field goals.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Well, I bet he didn't make a play like that. Ever,
he never made a play like that in the pros.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well Clark hat neither.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And there you go. It's a team game.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Trench Sigh has played one hundred and twenty two games
in the NFL, and now we know his name.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Hey, Neil, can you tease throwing George pickings the ball more?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Please?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Okay, we're going to do that next.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Now we got to talk about the guy that did
the throwing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You mane always look next shot.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
He's ten years in them.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
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Speaker 5 (25:39):
One of my favorite pastimes here. Over the last several years.
In fact, what Stax record at home against the Eagles?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I've only lost one. He's only lost once at home
to the Eagles in his career. That was in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
We talked about it on Friday.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But one of my favorite pastimes is after the Cowboys
beat the e is to tune into WIP in Philadelphia
the next morning.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They want the supposed to be fired.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Now, oh yeah, offordinator for sure. Yet body here.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And one of the things they're lamenting is the fact
that the Eagles had fourteen penalties in the game. Thirteen
or fourteen penalties in the game. And uh, we were
just talking about in the break before we get to
George Pickens and Dak Prescott in just a moment, how
many plays did the Eagles run in the game. It
was fifty eight plays. Well, they had fourteen penalties. Well
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they should have had fifty eight false starts on offense
because the left guard, Tyler Steen is false start every
single time when he's telling the center when to snap
the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And not only not only does he go violently to
touch him, it's like a half a second before they
snapped the ball. Normally you do.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
It and then and then there's a pause, and then
because everyone's supposed to be set right at the snap.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
It's immediate. It's like that ar they were out there,
and that was.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
One of the things the Eagles were doing offensively in
the first half. I didn't notice as much in the
second half because the Cowboys were having some success defensively,
but they were going quick. They were getting to the
line of scrimmage and they were stepping it quick regardless
of the when they were tapping the center.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's just wrong. I think they were starting to feel
a little pressure. Obviously.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
That's one reason they were going quickly, because they thought
that would help their tempo. With our defense at that time,
we had already figured out what they were trying to do.
And like I said, second half, they didn't make any
offensive adjustment at all.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
They kept running the same play.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, they couldn't.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
And the thing is is that if your play style
is going to be that basic, then you're gonna get
handled like that every time, especially as the game goes
on and Jalen Hurts. As Mickey was talking about the
throw that he made, it was a horrible throw, even
better catch, but he was trying to go through his
reads and progressions and couldn't get there fast enough, even
though at times it looked like he had all the
time in the world to do it. I just felt like,
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look that once we limited them and made them one dimensional.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
They were they were in I reflus fire and.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
We were looking at we were looking at not necessarily
sacks because I think it only got one.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, very big.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Good pressures had.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
To be immense on him because he was feeling it
in the pocket. I don't know how many pressures we
had or even how many hits, but it seemed as
if it bothered him a lot. In the second half,
his feet were happy in that pocket, and our defense
they made the adjustment. They made the adjustment. I think
they went more man to man than they did zone
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in the second.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Half because they had a little bit of zone going early.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
A little bit of zone going early, and that was
all okay, just you know, we kept offensively. We weren't
responding as well, but in the second half, I think
we shut that thing down to.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Uh, mostly man to man.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
And they talked about the biggest comeback in Cowboy's history,
biggest with.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well the last time was twenty fourteen, when the Cardinals
were still the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Now Shottenheimer, the offensive coordinator, think you I think it
was through fourteen.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Go ahead, but okay, just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But it was.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It was the fourth.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Time nineteen eighty three. Okay, Redskins.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Okay, we went down twenty three nothing, Okay, Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Hot til Tom Machine here we go.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Give me, you go, give me that.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Media guess that's when they first came out with the
hitch route. Uh huh, Charlie Brown and the Smurfs, we're
doing that crap. The entire first half we fell down.
I thought it was twenty three to zip.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And this was at Homer on the road. This on
the road on the road opener.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Season opener, thirty one thirty Cowboys win.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
And it was ten See it was.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Twenty three to three?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Was the score?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Twenty had halftime twenty three to three at twenty points.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Oh, that's why okay, okay, usually had three points.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Usually they're right on whenever you'll say it's the largest.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
There's different different things going on in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Man.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You know, I asked that question that you text out
to your friend. That's why I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
And it was Charlie Brown. Yeah a, thisman did Charlie Brown.
Twenty three to three. They missed the extra point because
Charlie Brown was the holder on the extra point.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Oh Charlie Brown, I got it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, Well that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. Hey,
did Charlie ever Come on?
Speaker 8 (30:52):
That would be hilarious if he actually was a joke.
That would be hilarious if you actually hold him. Come on,
Charlie Brown, hold it?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
All right, we got to get Pickings, right, of course
we do. Okay, let's get to Pickens. I believe he
had nine targets and nine catches. There were no drops
from George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yes, don't start that. Don't don't start that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's how good the passes were.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah, there's no separating this. That played out of his mind.
All right, we'll start there. Yes he did. He played
out of his mind, out of his mind, and when
you needed it the most, and we've I know, for me,
I'm I always cringe when I see him leave the
pocket and start running, and especially.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Down there, I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.
And the lea put the leap into the ends into
the end.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Zone and he hit I mean as soon as he
hit the ground, But when he bounced back up, I.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Was like, that's my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You could see, that's my quarterback. You can see you
can see.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
That he was gonna score, probably around the eight yard line. Yeah,
I felt comfortable.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
One.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It was in his eyes.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Yeah, you can see there was no denying his body
language and everything.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And then he got a good block from Ferguson. Ferguson
at gone.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I told you two touchdowns, but I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Think it was also on the line of.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I told you that's why my that was one of
the touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I love.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I love Ferguson, Uh going up against fellow Wisconsin Badger
Zach Bond on his rundown in the red zone. Nice
down inside the ten, got down to the one yard line,
almost scored on it. That was the first thing I
thought of, that's badger on badger crime right there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, I'll tell you what. I give me my Fergie love.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Now.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
She also set up the dog on winning field goal.
He come on, man, you gotta give me my pick
to click. I'm still on that.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Guys like guys like adri Jackson and Quinnon Mitchell when
they were lined up on George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They knew it.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
They knew it.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
I mean, I don't care if you're either him, they
are and you could tell from their body language. You
can tell from the ball Techniquely we're close to it.
Cooper Degene, you're talking about a ball technique, boy, Cooper Degene.
He came like he was go press and as soon
as that ball was down, he turned going the other way.
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Because guys understand, even because of the run, that safety
still has the honor play action. But when it was
just the lost side of the player and I'll bring
it tomorrow, but it was one where George Pickens is
on the play action, he's blocking and as soon as
the guy comes off, he comes off the balls right there.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was a.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Beautifully executed play.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
But it's like it's plays like that to George Pickens
that you cannot defense.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
There's no invents that you can come up with. It
seems like he and.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Dak have lived a life before together because the connection
that they have in the timing is pretty good considering
this is their first year together and we have any
finished down.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And he's hitting him on the run on the run
right full speed.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Yes, and like my son said, it must be sneaky
fast because you never really see anybody catching up to
him as he runs through the second day. There's no
one converging on him necessarily.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's like CAROLINEA.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
He just just sasheting.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Like how wow ever soon you did a comparison early
in the season to George Pickens, and your camp was
Des Bryant. My comp was Randy Moss, and Randy Moss
on Sunday said that his comp for himself is George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
He did, and so I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Just whatever, whatever, George, however, thank you again, Pittsburgh. But
this guy has that kind of whatever, sneaky, subtle whatever
separation at the end of routes that literally on that
long Leans thing, it is a forty three yard are
from dak If he has to go up and get
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it in high point of ball, he's dangerous there. Getting
expect him to come down with those sitting in between
zones third and third down. You know, look, I'm not
going to separate him from Cede Lamb, and I know
that a lot of people this morning that are talking
like that. No, I think CD the one thing that
he has to do is get out of his head
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about it. And I've seen wide receivers do this time
and time again where you have some drops and it's
in your crawl and you just can't get it out.
Come on, man, you him, You are him, We know
you him. So just go out there and do it
and everybody knows it. And they're gonna start double team
in George and you're gonna be singled up. And that's
ready to be ready, Be ready, be ready, because you
know exactly what the Kansas City chiefs are gonna do.
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They're gonna come out trying to stop George Pickens for
their survival.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
But you got Bill, you look like you got something.
I'll show it to your break.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Lord.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Well let me say this. Wait.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And by the way, when we were talking about the
run and you pointed out the block by Ferguson at
the line of scrimmage, it was Nate Thomas taking out
the defensive end.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And that's why they were inside.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He's outside from an outside him out there and the
hole was and we were kind of worried about Nate Thomas.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Well not anymore. According to Mickey, he started to pin
whip somebody. What happens with him? You better how town
he is coming.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
The president of the Cavante Turpin fan club and the
president of Thomas.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Look at it, by the way, the biggest play or
the longest play, Yeah, of the game, forty eight yards.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I thought he was gone. I thought he was gone.
But they played him well. He played the speed. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
He didn't even turn. He didn't even try to face him.
He just immediately turned.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I just wish I could be in the press box
with Mickey when he drops the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know he keeps something to turn out. He goes
to the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Me back.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
All right, Yeah, we got to take a break edition
of Mixed Shots and every since. I'm going to show
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Speaker 7 (36:59):
Brown and nine three. And he was not the holder,
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He was.
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Speaker 5 (39:38):
Right, final few minutes here of mixed Shots. Congrats to
Shudoor Sanders victory in his first NFL start on Sunday.
And yes, Coach Prime.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Was there, Yes he was.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Hey, ma, I gotta say that was very it was
My heart was was it was filled when I saw
him hug his son before the game. You know, that
was nothing about showing off that stuff that people always
know him for. Just genuine love for his son and
come to support him. And you could just imagine, you know,
your dad come to see you play, been your coach
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your whole life, right, pretty.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Much, this is the first year he administ coaching, and
for him to come for that game, I thought that
was extremely cool.
Speaker 8 (40:18):
It was very undeon like in regards to the hype
that we always associate him with. So I just thought
I had to throw that out there.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
And by the way, Chip Kelly was fired as the
Raiders offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
After the game, So now he's met at Dion.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
Joey.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
The size of his contract six million dollars deal, it's
what six million dollars a year is what the Raiders
were paying Chip Kelly. You come from Ohio State, he's
the offensive coordinator there after a national championship year, So.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
He'll find more work. That's chip ain't He don't never
hurting for work.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Also, and I wanted to get this up before we
get off track. I thought that see these last drop
frustrated him so much that he did something that you
just don't do to your quarterback. And it seemed as
if he were saying, I didn't want it here. Throw
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it out there. Lead me, it seems like that's what
he said. And to me, most quarterbacks would not take that,
especially if you dropped something that hits you in your stomach.
And I thought that it kind of reverted back to
that whole Green Bay thing and off season with you know,
things that happened with family and all that kind of stuff.
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That kind of that's a dangerous position to be in.
And it's not many quarterbacks that are going to take
that type of reaction.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Aaron Rodgers, he wouldn't have taken that at all.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
He would have been the jerk that he you know,
can be sometimes in regards to that reaction. And I
think it just kind of shows the patience that Dak
has this year for this entire team. Uh, he's landed
all out on the field, and you know, anybody else
can have excuses all you want.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm not having any this year.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And the TV cameras caught it.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
They did.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I saw it, and I said, oh, that he's got
to be mad at himself. He's not doing that right
that ball, He said, get it to me out here.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Have you ever been in have you ever been so
embarrassed that you're try and deflect immediately?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
That's what that was.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And then and the human part of him is I'm
deflecting immediately from something that everybody in the world is
seeing me do on a big on a stage like this,
and it's not a good look. And he has to
do a gut check with himself because you know the
way that this season is going, the way that this
team is playing, you don't want to get in the way, bro,
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you don't want to give the way.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Now, when they got the ball back with one thirty
five left at their own twenty seven, I wrote down
Pickens's back. Remember he was limping on the side and
he missed the part of that one possession. And he
came back and Dak goes seven yards to Ferguson third
and two nineteen yards to Ferguson. Now they're at the
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Philadelphia forty six. And when we were walking off down
the hallway after the game, Dak was carrying his daughter
and I go, how many more yards did you think
you need to set up the field goal? He goes,
I was thinking ten yards, and then he hit Pickings
for twenty four.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's all that, and.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
That's it, right. But I was wondering where they thought
they because if he gets ten more, then he's at
the thirty six, so it's a fifty four yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I was happy with After Ferguson's Cats, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When they were at the forty six, yeah right now,
please get close.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
We had to though, I would have been you know.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Mickey, you got to go to the book of balling
right now, go right to the fourth down that where
they went went forward on the line and they did
not get it right.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
What do you have in that book? What did you say?
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Because we've had some arguments on this show about for
it on the goal line.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
And four down I had I had written down, go for.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
It, go for it.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Yes, wow that I thought the game could have been
a lot easier if we just kicked the field goal
and stopped.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Them well and stopped him. Yeah, but I wanted to
touchdown to make sure I couldn't lose.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Who is he? No, Well, he's just like the coach.
The coach didn't love Bick.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know my philosophy. I'm just I am about or
field goals. You kicked the Yeah, I know, I am.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Obviously obviously coach felt the same way. I am shocked
about that. I was, I was very I was not
happy about that at all.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
But because Pickings tried to come in and they tried
to run a rap with him and it got all
screwed up. I think they were trying to rub out
or something over there, and you could tell that. I
think his calf muscle might have still been bothered him
just a bit because he couldn't make the move out
and then Dak was compromised.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Oh for it, yep, he did.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Okay, all right, man, how'd you feel about going forward
on fourth and three at the fifty on the first
possession of the game.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I was okay.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
No, I was not.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I was not okay with that. I was not okay
with that.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
You give him something before this.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
That's something's going on right now at breakfast with shot?
Is that what he was? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Well, just because I disagree with you, guys, if it
had worked, you would have said, oh, good look, how.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
I'm true to what I was yelling at the TV.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Well you better be glad we made that.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
If we could have said that, oh man, now I'm
with you guys, that was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (45:57):
How about the Giants? Okay?
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Mike Kafka, their interim head coach, They're up three on
the Lions late and they go for it down in
the red zone.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I don't know how close they were, but it was a.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Chip shot field goal up three, and they don't kick
the field goal to go up six. They don't get
it on fourth down. Lions come down, kick a tying
field goal. Now would you have gone for it? There
he went that situation, I went three.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
He went to the Dan Campbell's school exactly.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Oh, like everybody, everybody goes to the Dan Campbell school
of going for it.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
I mean, there's so many different philosophies and that, and we,
like I said, we got into the argument about it
during the Green Bay game, and I just felt like,
right there, you know that that's not a bad decision
to go forward. I didn't have a problem with it.
I thought early in the game giving them half of
the field, that was a mistake. Punt you know, playfield,
who yeah, field.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
And do that.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
But I just we've been begging for leaders on this
team all season long, and somehow Quinn Williams comes from
New York and it's not just he's not a raw
row guy so to speak. I don't see it outward
lee on the field but everybody post game was talking
about Quinnen's leadership. Wow during that halftime, and it was
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Sam Williams in an interview with Isaiah Standback in the
post game show, and he basically was saying it was
Quinn Williams saying, Hey, nobody's gonna give us nothing. We
gotta go out here and take it. And those that's
the kind of leader that maybe it's so simplistic to
those that are out there, but that's the kind of
leadership that they've needed in this locker room. And not
a guy to hang his head and say, hey, woe
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is me, We're about to lose this game.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
He didn't, I mean down.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
And that seems like the way we've been in the past.
We were down and we stayed down.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
But you got a leader. You got a leader.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
And you know, there's some other things to talk about
with our linebackers and all of that, but we're gonna ride.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
We're gonna stay on this high. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Quinn Williams also had, according to Next Gen Stats, say,
career high eight quarterback pressures in the game the Monks
career high eight quarterback.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
He's a monster, hard to deal with.
Speaker 8 (47:59):
A good earlier I wasn't sure. I will saw one sack,
but man, he had to have a lot. It was
a lot of pressures, not just from him. I'm sure
that's how Clowney was coming around there a few times
as well.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Who are our guys that Britt Brown is the guy
that does a rehab? He is amazing because the Marvin overshown.
I'm gonna sing my song. Man, I was wrong. I
was wrong.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Agent zero was on it.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Body was gonna stuck do that stop and go through?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Did you see that he thought about it? Didn't he?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Demo was like, nah, what was that?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
He really thought he was?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
That was gonna move somebody, stepper whatever.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Now I thought the biggest play was him. Man, the
man on sakwon bar.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
That's what I saw. That's what I saw.
Speaker 8 (48:45):
I was like, wow, everywhere every he met him, everywhere
he was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, let's not forget OS's third and two sacks.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Huge right out, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
That was it that saved the day.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Right at that ended that drive? Right?
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Can we give it a covered set?
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Can he beat Pro Bowl left guard Landon Dickerson.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That he smoked him?
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
But they had to start single blocking because of the
other guys.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Okay, Natan Frisco is going to take over here at
the top of the hour, and we appreciate you joining
us here for a victory Monday edition of Mixed Shots,
and we'll shot at you again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
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Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Go better believe.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How boy.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Stamp?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yes, it's a beautiful sound, the sounds of a victory
Monday here inside the SBbc podcast studio with a tour
looking on as well.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Like we always do it this time. Come on, Billy,
don't don't, don't let us down.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yes, welcome to a victory victory, let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
Vicky, how come you're not smiling?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And he was trying to convince one of us to
take the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Ah, somebody was, y'all was on your way. You thought
we were.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Now figured I figured, you know, but you guys. Man
didn't let me down, You guys.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
I would have been the one probably to break the chain,
because you know, I was so disappointed in the timeliness
of all of this, So you probably thought it was
gonna be me.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I did, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
As it turned out, Everson was genius with us genius.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
That's what he told us on our group text.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Come on, why does the game moment?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
He said something about picks to click and genius.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Twenty four to twenty was what I picked.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, you didn't even get the spread right.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Twenty four to twenty you were.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I was as close.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
I was closer than anyone twenty to seventeen who.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Picked twenty is seventeen right here? I think that's pretty close.
That's a three point spread.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
That's right, that's close. Spags, You're way off. Seventeen thirty
to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Thirty, twenty seven, thirty twenty. I can't even take notes.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, you're over, You're over, You're way over.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I went down nine twenty three. We'll give you the
dack score.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I give you the death though, uh, Spags, because you
said that.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I missed on my pick to click, I know that
you ain't lying.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
What was your pick?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Redemption game back to CD.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
We got to talk about that. We gotta talk about that.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
My shot we know we talked about So no, I'm
going close. I said for two touchdown. He didn't have
two testdowns, but he was extremely instrumental in two testdown drives.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The extremely there's no argument who pick click was who?
Dak Prescott ain't no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And then Arby heck Arby Yeah, bada.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He missed a field goal.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
No, don't do that. Hey, this was when you guys
have to come on. I just I want to talk
about those first that first quarter and a half. Okay,
you think now that first quarter and a half, what
did your Where was your mind when it was twenty one?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Did you automatically just say to yourself, here we go again.
This is about to be a forty five to sixteen drumming.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No. Where did you start to believe the win? Did
this age?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I said to myself, there's still eleven minutes to go
in the second quarter, and there's another half to play.
If they could score one touchdown, get it to fourteen,
you got a chance to win the game.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I also had the feeling, as Philly's offense often does
in the second half, they sputtered. This is a patent
that they have, and I just figured since we were
I always think for some.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Reason, home field advantage.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
I don't believe in that, but it's just the way
it is, home field advantage. I knew that we would
stay in the game spiritually, and we did not get
two down on ourselves as if we would have been
on the road.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Let's talk about the fact that this defense we said
about Saquon Barkley in this matchup is that we had
to limit the explosive plays. They came right out and
they did that. They limited his explosive plays. He didn't
gas you the guys the usual suspects that you expected.
Aj Brown Obviously he was going to have a good
game the second It took a little bit of time
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to start to manufacturing the pressure from a defensive end.
But once those guys started, look, call them cover sacks,
call them whatever you want to, but Jalen Hurts was
having to go to his first, second, third read and
when it wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And that's all covers.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
This is a team we've been talking about zone man,
all of those different things. What a difference having a
pass rush that you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Man, Wait a minute, let's go back to the first question.
When did you give up a no no will?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You asked us one no, no, no, no. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I didn't give up anything.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
And what I was seeing in real time was the
same thing you were seeing is George Pickings, George Pickens
man the man on the outside, and.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That when it was twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I was cussing mad. I was cussing mad. You get gone, No, No,
I was cussing mad. Yeah, I was cussing mad. But
at the same time, I'm like, we are shooting ourselves
in the foot. We're shooting ourselves in the foot with
the penalties that number one that first.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Quarter were frustrating.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The Cowboys are so good they couldn't even beat themselves,
and that's something.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Well, I didn't come out. I didn't come up with that,
but you're right, they were trying to. They were damn
so well. And I think what I saw was, once again,
I saw the pattern. I didn't think I thought we
would come out second half the way we did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I saw offensively, we were.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Still moving the ball enough to where if we don't
keep shooting ourselves in the foot, we'll be just fine.
And also it was just like the first game, even
though we had no regular or anything like that. I
knew that we would make adjustments. I knew we would
make because we've done that before. We made those defensive adjustments,
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especially in the secondary. Because what I was getting upset
about was Okay, these are our young dbs. We're bringing
them in so that they can have some more energy,
play a little smarter. Well, the first half, for some reason,
we kept opening up the inside routes for them. I
don't know why we always do that. But the second
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half we shut all of that down. All of a sudden,
were playing inside leverage man the man, and that's what
was allowing Jalen Hurst to have to eat it because
he wanted to come with the quick slants and those
uh sceam routes. We shut that down from a defensive
standpoint in the second half. And that's that's eber Flush
at work right there.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, if you remember they moved the ball in the
first half, right they had two hundred eleven yards offense.
How many penalties, Well, don't worry about the penalties.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Exactly second half they.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Had they had an interception in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Which we should have been the PI.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And they yeah, because he grabbed it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He grabbed and that gave him the leverage and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They were moving the football. When Turpin trips and then
when he falls forward, I went back and looked at it.
He's got the ball on don't you beat us and
his arm hits his offensive lineman's leg and he fumbles.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's his nephew had tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
If you want the truth, just come to me. Look,
but they're moving the fu. They shot themselves in the
foot twice. They should have had, you know.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
And that's one reason I was not too concerned exactly,
was that we're at home and we're going to overcome
those penalties. I was just hoping the defense could hold on.
And in the second half. That's the weakness to me
of the Philadelphia Eagles offense. They come out in the
second half thinking it's going to be status quo. And
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that's how they've been in some of the tough games
that they've been in, because they don't make adjustments in
that second half.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And and and then in the first half. Also throw
in the fact that okay, first three possessions, things go bad, right,
one of them shouldn't have because they tipped the punt man.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I don't know about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What's Bill Vinovitch looking at.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
The top about this?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Man?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Why do you have to I mean, why do you
have to go back and and waste a review on
something that is clearly obvious? And if y'all got cameras
in everywhere in.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
New York, like there on the time clock, like they're
a real clock to Well, we don't have time to
check that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Did you see what the replay guy said from New York?
They didn't have the enhanced view. I'll be that TV showed. No, No,
the guy is butter something.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, you're supposed to have everything you need.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, they didn't. They didn't. They didn't feel like they
needed to see because they said the Cowboys didn't challenge it,
and then that show that view didn't come up till
several plays later, right, and so had he challenged it,
then they would have had to stop the game, and
then they could have maybe did not see that it
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was I don't know, he's standing right there, How does
he not see that? He should have heard it. Now
I heard on the Did you.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
In the stadium where you're at the game?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Okay, well in the stadium, no, No, I'm not talking
about sound the punt itself, yes, where the where it
was fielded was forty yards downfield. But you could see
what we can't see on television is the flutter of
the bar or anything.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'm at the game, you could it's.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Clear I mean, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, at.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
That ball was at the point of contact that that
it was that it was doubt.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
It's on the Cowboys for not challenging.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's right, and that's what And Flinoy was going like
this to the reference. So Flinoy's got to tell the coach, hey,
we got to challenge this.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, well, I mean, but did some kind of way.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
The coaches the head coach might be looking at something
that he may not be looking up at the ball.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
No, but somebody has got to tell something.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Number one. The sound on the field for the radio
broadcast picked up the double hit. Okay, okay, and Schottenheimer
said the look they had from above what they saw
on the replay didn't show enough to challenge it. So
now he's got to take noise word for you, right right?
(11:22):
And I would have yes, yes, It's not like the
NBA when something happens it's right right, yeah. I don't
believe those guys for one minute. But this guy was
adamant about he touched the ball. But Vinovich is standing
right there. How does he not see what's he looking at?
(11:42):
What's he looking at? I told you watch out for
that East Coast bias.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
They tried to play out we got a running into it.
We had a running into the kicker, which I thought
was a personal foul.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
To make it simple, if you have a question, the
special teams coach should just go over to floridaid, hey,
did you touch it?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I go to the head coach. He touched it, and
let's go. That's it. And it's early in the second half.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
On first half it's seven to nine, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Use your challenge. It's okay, it's in the first half.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Now it's fourteen to nothing. Right, and then.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Well here's the other part of that.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
All right, I'm looking further at that drive. Okay, so
you don't challenge. They get a first down, Okay, they
go aj Brown for twelve yards to the plus forty
nine yard line. Incomplete, incomplete. It's third and ten incomplete.
But Jadavian Clowney lined up off sides, and I was
(12:50):
yelling at my television at the time, back up your yes,
that wasn't the first play that he had lined up
off sides, right, and you're off the field if he
doesn't line up off sides and they're punting the ball.
Well with these days, he's NFL coaches. He might have
gone on fourth and tent, but you're getting off the
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field with the punt. Doesn't matter at that point, right,
Just because you don't get that call doesn't mean they
have to go eighty yards for a touchdown right on
that drive, which is what they basically will.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Now it's fourteen to nothing. Then Hurtz throws a double
hair Mary. The pass was so bad that DeVonta Smith
makes fun of the lack whatever the hell his name is,
DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Dame, you know exactly he has been had.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Name.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Man, Can I make my point? Yes, thank you, because
none of you are going to make it. That pass
was so bad he had to make an unbelievable catch.
Right if it was a good pass, Carson's going to
break it up. And now it's twenty.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
One because he was he was he was headed up
with and there was so you know it though actually
to the outside shoulder.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what this was. It was the nineteen ninety
four NFC title game. Once again, they opened how the
Cowboys started that game. In seven minutes, they turned the
ball over three times and it was twenty one to nothing.
San Francisco interception on the first possession for a touchdown,
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a lost fumble.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
With three Hall of Fame players, Yes, who committed turno,
But it was Switzer's fault.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, of course, Michael Irvin fumble. And then on the
ensuing kickoff after they made it fourteen to nothing, Kevin
Williams fumbles the kickoff. Now it's twenty one to nothing
and there was still seven point thirty three to play
in the first quarter, and they came within Dion Sanders
not getting called for interference on Michael Irvin from cutting
(15:04):
that lead to three points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Well, Dion's that's the first and only time I've ever
seen Dion whipped and.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He got was handling his butt. It was hanging on forever.
So they came back. So when I saw twenty one
to nothing, it's like, there's still a lot of football
to play, and.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There we are again. Here we are again. I never
gave up hope.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
As a matter of fact, I expected that they would
come back. The interception in the end zone that did Uh,
that was unnecessary because if I recall, we had done
something to put ourselves in that position.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh god, oh false start.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, the false start. That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do you know what when he left the game? I
think it was fourth quarter.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I wrote the time, Well, Thomas got thirty one snaps.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I want to say that they never announced the injury
what he had right like, go oh, he's questionable. Never
came back in the game. Nate Thomas finished and Nate
that's where they were running. They were running between the
left tackle and left guard, those big runs that Williams
and he never came back. And that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
One more for the doghouse, though.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Exactly exactly the man got the red incs.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I have to say that that, Yeah, that just.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It reminded me of two years ago so much to where,
you know what, let's just go ahead and and and
Murphy's law this thing, because you know, as soon as
we start messing up, we.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Just pile on we just pole it on ourselves.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
And for for that to turn around to such a fiasco,
of course, you know, we're looking for the referee to
make the call.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
He's not going to make the car Oh well, we
still got to make them. Too.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Much of that's going on. That's how the Cowboys usually
rolled this game. It did not have anything to do
with the outcome of the game.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
And you guys have an historical reference from nfcas I
mean NFC championship games and all of that. This season
when the Cowboys have had lost the league like that,
you've seen them tank, You've seen the mentality of the team.
You could tell by the body language on the sideline.
There's so much about the play style that changes because
they're down big.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That never changed.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
And in that second quarter when it just felt like
game on, as soon as George Pickens got caught that touchdown,
like now you're down by fourteen, and now you got
a whole second half to look forward to. Now, either
you're going to be in a shootout, but you are
going to have to limit something and you've already taken
away Saquon Barkley. And Saquon Barkley finished this game with
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twenty two yards.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And if I had told you that on Friday.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You would have said, when you're lying to me, no, no,
I'll take it.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
I believe because we we we did. We did similar
in the first game. I figured that you know Barkley
and the Eagles, that's an issue that they are having
and I figured I was hoping it will continue in
this game. He just hadn't been getting the production they're
supposed to get. But it's funny how you know when
you add these players to the to the team and
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then there's this optimism all over the place. We sat
here and talked badly about a guy named Sam Williams
and how he's not producing, and yet he has come
up with two of probably the biggest plays that a
damn man.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
To Williams.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Haven't said that. We did.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
We did, we did, and we were as I told
you guys last week, we got to be stubborn with it,
and we were stubborn. We never gave up on the run.
We had to be stepping with the run. But to
watch Sam Williams come through and make that play on Barkley,
I thought that was really That's when I knew we
got this game. That's when I knew this team is there.
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Number thirty eight.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Clark, Elijah Clark.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Elijah Clark probably go to high school, Elijah Clark with
the with the with the with You talk about Sam
Williams and he did come up big, but special teams
and we needed it was a complete team effort.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
But I think that play right there.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No matter how this season goes, if it is the
big turnaround, all of those things, you got to take
that play capsulated and just say this is how the
Cowboys turned their season around with the play like that.
That was all hard.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Scenes hadn't been doing all that, the special team coverage
hadn't been that great. But when you look at that play,
that's why it's a team game, guys, Because first you
saw twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I'm sorry Thompson. Thompson number twenty nine for the Cowboy.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Yes, CJ.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Good One, so's a good one. I always say good one. TJ.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Goodwin started that entire thing off. He did not allow
that runner to get full speed and just come straight.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Up to find that way.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
That runner Xavier Gibson, and he'side a Woodrow Wilson High
School in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
He knew that. He knew that.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
And by the way, Elijah Clark from Camden High School
in camb Now, I already knew the Woodrow Wilson, but
I didn't know the New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
But everybody knows Elijah Clark now because he is going
viral on every social media.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And if you see the play.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
You see that good one was the first one to
make that play happen by not allowing him to proceed
up the field. He made him go lade using the
blocker almost like he was setting the edge.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
That's what gave.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Elijah n forty four whatever his name is, what's his name?
You don't know the whole sick. You saw three people
running in Unison. Clark Holder a snapper.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He don't even bother with guys didn't know his.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Name either, had I one I knew his name. I've
never seen that guy in my life. I've never seen
that guy in my life.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Got it like a three year contract, and I have
never seen him snap my life. That's because he's not
like illustrated.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
He is not.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And so having said that, you have four people on
that play that made a good one stopped him from
going upfield.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Elijah Clark, did I say his name? Elijah Clark?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Keen a Elijah with Elijah with an and Keen and
and uh sig big sick.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Got to eat in high school and eating Colorad.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
And Bell in Unison. You saw the pursuit of the
running in Unison, and when that when that play was made,
pretty much all three of those guys here him at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Hey Bill, that's a team game. It's a team game.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
If he's if Elijah's by himself, he's not going to
make that play. Goodwin had to do his job. He
had to get his butt up off the off the
turf make the play. And so was Bell and who else?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Six sig which spelled s I E G.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Big get it all three all three four about guys.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
He's got a snap in every one of those sixty
yard field goals.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Well, I bet he didn't make a play like that. Ever,
he never made a play like that in the pros.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well Clark hat neither.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And there you go. It's a team game.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Trench Sigh has played one hundred and twenty two games
in the NFL, and now we know his name.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Hey, Neil, can you tease throwing George pickings the ball more?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Please?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Okay, we're going to do that next.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Now we got to talk about the guy that did
the throwing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You mane always look next shot.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
He's ten years in them.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
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One of my favorite pastimes here. Over the last several years.
In fact, what Stax record at home against the Eagles?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I've only lost one. He's only lost once at home
to the Eagles in his career. That was in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
We talked about it on Friday.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But one of my favorite pastimes is after the Cowboys
beat the e is to tune into WIP in Philadelphia
the next morning.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They want the supposed to be fired.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Now, oh yeah, offordinator for sure. Yet body here.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And one of the things they're lamenting is the fact
that the Eagles had fourteen penalties in the game. Thirteen
or fourteen penalties in the game. And uh, we were
just talking about in the break before we get to
George Pickens and Dak Prescott in just a moment, how
many plays did the Eagles run in the game. It
was fifty eight plays. Well, they had fourteen penalties. Well
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they should have had fifty eight false starts on offense
because the left guard, Tyler Steen is false start every
single time when he's telling the center when to snap
the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And not only not only does he go violently to
touch him, it's like a half a second before they
snapped the ball. Normally you do.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
It and then and then there's a pause, and then
because everyone's supposed to be set right at the snap.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
It's immediate. It's like that ar they were out there,
and that was.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
One of the things the Eagles were doing offensively in
the first half. I didn't notice as much in the
second half because the Cowboys were having some success defensively,
but they were going quick. They were getting to the
line of scrimmage and they were stepping it quick regardless
of the when they were tapping the center.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's just wrong. I think they were starting to feel
a little pressure. Obviously.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
That's one reason they were going quickly, because they thought
that would help their tempo. With our defense at that time,
we had already figured out what they were trying to do.
And like I said, second half, they didn't make any
offensive adjustment at all.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
They kept running the same play.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, they couldn't.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
And the thing is is that if your play style
is going to be that basic, then you're gonna get
handled like that every time, especially as the game goes
on and Jalen Hurts. As Mickey was talking about the
throw that he made, it was a horrible throw, even
better catch, but he was trying to go through his
reads and progressions and couldn't get there fast enough, even
though at times it looked like he had all the
time in the world to do it. I just felt like,
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look that once we limited them and made them one dimensional.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
They were they were in I reflus fire and.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
We were looking at we were looking at not necessarily
sacks because I think it only got one.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, very big.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Good pressures had.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
To be immense on him because he was feeling it
in the pocket. I don't know how many pressures we
had or even how many hits, but it seemed as
if it bothered him a lot. In the second half,
his feet were happy in that pocket, and our defense
they made the adjustment. They made the adjustment. I think
they went more man to man than they did zone
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in the second.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Half because they had a little bit of zone going early.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
A little bit of zone going early, and that was
all okay, just you know, we kept offensively. We weren't
responding as well, but in the second half, I think
we shut that thing down to.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Uh, mostly man to man.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
And they talked about the biggest comeback in Cowboy's history,
biggest with.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well the last time was twenty fourteen, when the Cardinals
were still the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Now Shottenheimer, the offensive coordinator, think you I think it
was through fourteen.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Go ahead, but okay, just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But it was.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It was the fourth.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Time nineteen eighty three. Okay, Redskins.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Okay, we went down twenty three nothing, Okay, Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Hot til Tom Machine here we go.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Give me, you go, give me that.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Media guess that's when they first came out with the
hitch route. Uh huh, Charlie Brown and the Smurfs, we're
doing that crap. The entire first half we fell down.
I thought it was twenty three to zip.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And this was at Homer on the road. This on
the road on the road opener.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Season opener, thirty one thirty Cowboys win.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
And it was ten See it was.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Twenty three to three?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Was the score?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Twenty had halftime twenty three to three at twenty points.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Oh, that's why okay, okay, usually had three points.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Usually they're right on whenever you'll say it's the largest.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
There's different different things going on in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Man.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You know, I asked that question that you text out
to your friend. That's why I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
And it was Charlie Brown. Yeah a, thisman did Charlie Brown.
Twenty three to three. They missed the extra point because
Charlie Brown was the holder on the extra point.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Oh Charlie Brown, I got it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, Well that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. Hey,
did Charlie ever Come on?
Speaker 8 (30:52):
That would be hilarious if he actually was a joke.
That would be hilarious if you actually hold him. Come on,
Charlie Brown, hold it?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
All right, we got to get Pickings, right, of course
we do. Okay, let's get to Pickens. I believe he
had nine targets and nine catches. There were no drops
from George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yes, don't start that. Don't don't start that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's how good the passes were.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah, there's no separating this. That played out of his mind.
All right, we'll start there. Yes he did. He played
out of his mind, out of his mind, and when
you needed it the most, and we've I know, for me,
I'm I always cringe when I see him leave the
pocket and start running, and especially.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Down there, I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.
And the lea put the leap into the ends into
the end.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Zone and he hit I mean as soon as he
hit the ground, But when he bounced back up, I.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Was like, that's my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You could see, that's my quarterback. You can see you
can see.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
That he was gonna score, probably around the eight yard line. Yeah,
I felt comfortable.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
One.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It was in his eyes.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Yeah, you can see there was no denying his body
language and everything.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And then he got a good block from Ferguson. Ferguson
at gone.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I told you two touchdowns, but I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Think it was also on the line of.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I told you that's why my that was one of
the touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I love.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I love Ferguson, Uh going up against fellow Wisconsin Badger
Zach Bond on his rundown in the red zone. Nice
down inside the ten, got down to the one yard line,
almost scored on it. That was the first thing I
thought of, that's badger on badger crime right there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, I'll tell you what. I give me my Fergie love.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Now.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
She also set up the dog on winning field goal.
He come on, man, you gotta give me my pick
to click. I'm still on that.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Guys like guys like adri Jackson and Quinnon Mitchell when
they were lined up on George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They knew it.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
They knew it.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
I mean, I don't care if you're either him, they
are and you could tell from their body language. You
can tell from the ball Techniquely we're close to it.
Cooper Degene, you're talking about a ball technique, boy, Cooper Degene.
He came like he was go press and as soon
as that ball was down, he turned going the other way.
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Because guys understand, even because of the run, that safety
still has the honor play action. But when it was
just the lost side of the player and I'll bring
it tomorrow, but it was one where George Pickens is
on the play action, he's blocking and as soon as
the guy comes off, he comes off the balls right there.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was a.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Beautifully executed play.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
But it's like it's plays like that to George Pickens
that you cannot defense.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
There's no invents that you can come up with. It
seems like he and.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Dak have lived a life before together because the connection
that they have in the timing is pretty good considering
this is their first year together and we have any
finished down.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And he's hitting him on the run on the run
right full speed.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Yes, and like my son said, it must be sneaky
fast because you never really see anybody catching up to
him as he runs through the second day. There's no
one converging on him necessarily.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's like CAROLINEA.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
He just just sasheting.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Like how wow ever soon you did a comparison early
in the season to George Pickens, and your camp was
Des Bryant. My comp was Randy Moss, and Randy Moss
on Sunday said that his comp for himself is George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
He did, and so I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Just whatever, whatever, George, however, thank you again, Pittsburgh. But
this guy has that kind of whatever, sneaky, subtle whatever
separation at the end of routes that literally on that
long Leans thing, it is a forty three yard are
from dak If he has to go up and get
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it in high point of ball, he's dangerous there. Getting
expect him to come down with those sitting in between
zones third and third down. You know, look, I'm not
going to separate him from Cede Lamb, and I know
that a lot of people this morning that are talking
like that. No, I think CD the one thing that
he has to do is get out of his head
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about it. And I've seen wide receivers do this time
and time again where you have some drops and it's
in your crawl and you just can't get it out.
Come on, man, you him, You are him, We know
you him. So just go out there and do it
and everybody knows it. And they're gonna start double team
in George and you're gonna be singled up. And that's
ready to be ready, Be ready, be ready, because you
know exactly what the Kansas City chiefs are gonna do.
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They're gonna come out trying to stop George Pickens for
their survival.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
But you got Bill, you look like you got something.
I'll show it to your break.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Lord.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Well let me say this. Wait.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And by the way, when we were talking about the
run and you pointed out the block by Ferguson at
the line of scrimmage, it was Nate Thomas taking out
the defensive end.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And that's why they were inside.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He's outside from an outside him out there and the
hole was and we were kind of worried about Nate Thomas.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Well not anymore. According to Mickey, he started to pin
whip somebody. What happens with him? You better how town
he is coming.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
The president of the Cavante Turpin fan club and the
president of Thomas.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Look at it, by the way, the biggest play or
the longest play, Yeah, of the game, forty eight yards.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I thought he was gone. I thought he was gone.
But they played him well. He played the speed. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
He didn't even turn. He didn't even try to face him.
He just immediately turned.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I just wish I could be in the press box
with Mickey when he drops the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know he keeps something to turn out. He goes
to the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Me back.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
All right, Yeah, we got to take a break edition
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Speaker 7 (36:59):
Brown and nine three. And he was not the holder,
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Speaker 5 (39:38):
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And yes, Coach Prime.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Was there, Yes he was.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Hey, ma, I gotta say that was very it was
My heart was was it was filled when I saw
him hug his son before the game. You know, that
was nothing about showing off that stuff that people always
know him for. Just genuine love for his son and
come to support him. And you could just imagine, you know,
your dad come to see you play, been your coach
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your whole life, right, pretty.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Much, this is the first year he administ coaching, and
for him to come for that game, I thought that
was extremely cool.
Speaker 8 (40:18):
It was very undeon like in regards to the hype
that we always associate him with. So I just thought
I had to throw that out there.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
And by the way, Chip Kelly was fired as the
Raiders offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
After the game, So now he's met at Dion.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
Joey.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
The size of his contract six million dollars deal, it's
what six million dollars a year is what the Raiders
were paying Chip Kelly. You come from Ohio State, he's
the offensive coordinator there after a national championship year, So.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
He'll find more work. That's chip ain't He don't never
hurting for work.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Also, and I wanted to get this up before we
get off track. I thought that see these last drop
frustrated him so much that he did something that you
just don't do to your quarterback. And it seemed as
if he were saying, I didn't want it here. Throw
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it out there. Lead me, it seems like that's what
he said. And to me, most quarterbacks would not take that,
especially if you dropped something that hits you in your stomach.
And I thought that it kind of reverted back to
that whole Green Bay thing and off season with you know,
things that happened with family and all that kind of stuff.
(41:38):
That kind of that's a dangerous position to be in.
And it's not many quarterbacks that are going to take
that type of reaction.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Aaron Rodgers, he wouldn't have taken that at all.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
He would have been the jerk that he you know,
can be sometimes in regards to that reaction. And I
think it just kind of shows the patience that Dak
has this year for this entire team. Uh, he's landed
all out on the field, and you know, anybody else
can have excuses all you want.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm not having any this year.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And the TV cameras caught it.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
They did.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I saw it, and I said, oh, that he's got
to be mad at himself. He's not doing that right
that ball, He said, get it to me out here.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Have you ever been in have you ever been so
embarrassed that you're try and deflect immediately?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
That's what that was.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And then and the human part of him is I'm
deflecting immediately from something that everybody in the world is
seeing me do on a big on a stage like this,
and it's not a good look. And he has to
do a gut check with himself because you know the
way that this season is going, the way that this
team is playing, you don't want to get in the way, bro,
(42:50):
you don't want to give the way.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Now, when they got the ball back with one thirty
five left at their own twenty seven, I wrote down
Pickens's back. Remember he was limping on the side and
he missed the part of that one possession. And he
came back and Dak goes seven yards to Ferguson third
and two nineteen yards to Ferguson. Now they're at the
(43:15):
Philadelphia forty six. And when we were walking off down
the hallway after the game, Dak was carrying his daughter
and I go, how many more yards did you think
you need to set up the field goal? He goes,
I was thinking ten yards, and then he hit Pickings
for twenty four.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's all that, and.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
That's it, right. But I was wondering where they thought
they because if he gets ten more, then he's at
the thirty six, so it's a fifty four yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I was happy with After Ferguson's Cats, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When they were at the forty six, yeah right now,
please get close.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
We had to though, I would have been you know.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Mickey, you got to go to the book of balling
right now, go right to the fourth down that where
they went went forward on the line and they did
not get it right.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
What do you have in that book? What did you say?
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Because we've had some arguments on this show about for
it on the goal line.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
And four down I had I had written down, go for.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
It, go for it.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Yes, wow that I thought the game could have been
a lot easier if we just kicked the field goal
and stopped.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Them well and stopped him. Yeah, but I wanted to
touchdown to make sure I couldn't lose.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Who is he? No, Well, he's just like the coach.
The coach didn't love Bick.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know my philosophy. I'm just I am about or
field goals. You kicked the Yeah, I know, I am.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Obviously obviously coach felt the same way. I am shocked
about that. I was, I was very I was not
happy about that at all.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
But because Pickings tried to come in and they tried
to run a rap with him and it got all
screwed up. I think they were trying to rub out
or something over there, and you could tell that. I
think his calf muscle might have still been bothered him
just a bit because he couldn't make the move out
and then Dak was compromised.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Oh for it, yep, he did.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Okay, all right, man, how'd you feel about going forward
on fourth and three at the fifty on the first
possession of the game.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I was okay.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
No, I was not.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I was not okay with that. I was not okay
with that.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
You give him something before this.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
That's something's going on right now at breakfast with shot?
Is that what he was? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Well, just because I disagree with you, guys, if it
had worked, you would have said, oh, good look, how.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
I'm true to what I was yelling at the TV.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Well you better be glad we made that.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
If we could have said that, oh man, now I'm
with you guys, that was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (45:57):
How about the Giants? Okay?
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Mike Kafka, their interim head coach, They're up three on
the Lions late and they go for it down in
the red zone.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I don't know how close they were, but it was a.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Chip shot field goal up three, and they don't kick
the field goal to go up six. They don't get
it on fourth down. Lions come down, kick a tying
field goal. Now would you have gone for it? There
he went that situation, I went three.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
He went to the Dan Campbell's school exactly.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Oh, like everybody, everybody goes to the Dan Campbell school
of going for it.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
I mean, there's so many different philosophies and that, and we,
like I said, we got into the argument about it
during the Green Bay game, and I just felt like,
right there, you know that that's not a bad decision
to go forward. I didn't have a problem with it.
I thought early in the game giving them half of
the field, that was a mistake. Punt you know, playfield,
who yeah, field.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
And do that.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
But I just we've been begging for leaders on this
team all season long, and somehow Quinn Williams comes from
New York and it's not just he's not a raw
row guy so to speak. I don't see it outward
lee on the field but everybody post game was talking
about Quinnen's leadership. Wow during that halftime, and it was
(47:12):
Sam Williams in an interview with Isaiah Standback in the
post game show, and he basically was saying it was
Quinn Williams saying, Hey, nobody's gonna give us nothing. We
gotta go out here and take it. And those that's
the kind of leader that maybe it's so simplistic to
those that are out there, but that's the kind of
leadership that they've needed in this locker room. And not
a guy to hang his head and say, hey, woe
(47:32):
is me, We're about to lose this game.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
He didn't, I mean down.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
And that seems like the way we've been in the past.
We were down and we stayed down.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
But you got a leader. You got a leader.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
And you know, there's some other things to talk about
with our linebackers and all of that, but we're gonna ride.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
We're gonna stay on this high. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Quinn Williams also had, according to Next Gen Stats, say,
career high eight quarterback pressures in the game the Monks
career high eight quarterback.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
He's a monster, hard to deal with.
Speaker 8 (47:59):
A good earlier I wasn't sure. I will saw one sack,
but man, he had to have a lot. It was
a lot of pressures, not just from him. I'm sure
that's how Clowney was coming around there a few times
as well.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Who are our guys that Britt Brown is the guy
that does a rehab? He is amazing because the Marvin overshown.
I'm gonna sing my song. Man, I was wrong. I
was wrong.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Agent zero was on it.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Body was gonna stuck do that stop and go through?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Did you see that he thought about it? Didn't he?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Demo was like, nah, what was that?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
He really thought he was?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
That was gonna move somebody, stepper whatever.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Now I thought the biggest play was him. Man, the
man on sakwon bar.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
That's what I saw. That's what I saw.
Speaker 8 (48:45):
I was like, wow, everywhere every he met him, everywhere
he was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, let's not forget OS's third and two sacks.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Huge right out, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
That was it that saved the day.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Right at that ended that drive? Right?
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Can we give it a covered set?
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Can he beat Pro Bowl left guard Landon Dickerson.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That he smoked him?
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
But they had to start single blocking because of the
other guys.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Okay, Natan Frisco is going to take over here at
the top of the hour, and we appreciate you joining
us here for a victory Monday edition of Mixed Shots,
and we'll shot at you again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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