Fresh off an intimate set with Nova's Red Room, we have Calum Hood in the studio to talk his new album ORDER chaos ORDER. He also talks about what it's like living in LA compared to Mt. Druitt and if he still is in contact with the 5 Seconds of Summer boys.
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This is the Fitting In with Kate Richie podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh We Love This Man. Callum Hood's debut solo album,
Order Chaos Order is out tomorrow. Also an intimate performance
just for our Nova listeners last night in Nova's Red Room.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Calum Hood.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome, Welcome home, mate, Thank you good to be home.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It feels good. It feels good to be here. It
does yeah. Staying with mum and dad?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
No not honestly, last time I was staying with mum,
but this time no, I'm I'm leaving the nest?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Or did that cause trouble?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What do you mean you don't want to stay darling?
I think she wanted to say that, but she was like, no,
do you think Do you think.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
You've got to be careful doing stuff like that, because
next time you do come home from Los Angeles, your
bedroom is going to be a sewing room and there
will be no remorse.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
There will be no spare key under the mats.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
For a Quakers heel boy? What is it like in
La Like? Is it like for anyone who hasn't been
there before?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It is it?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's a well I find it. We've been there a
few times work, but it is wild at the moment.
There are moments where you go, oh my gosh, this
is so totally different from what we grew up in.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well, I'm from Mount Jewett, so I don't really know
too much about quakes here, the mountain, the mountainous Peak,
you can see it from the from the studio here. Yeah,
I mean it's it's we've come a long way. So
it's just nice to kind of have that perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I guess from from where we're from.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
And when where you live over there are the other
guys near you, the other five Sauce band members.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, we're all kind of like twenty minutes away from
each al. Yeah, great, you're all tight. Yeah, I love that.
I think so it's a great story.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
No, yeah, it's honestly, yeah, we're probably better than ever,
so I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The group chats on fire.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Can I ask you callum?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
When you when you have these songs you know in
your mind and you're putting them together, do you present
them to five sous or was this something very personal
for you that you wanted to bring out solo.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah. The solo record was just kind of like separated
from from that world. I sent them all the album
kind of when everything was finished, just because I respect
their opinion, probably more so musically than anyone else. So
I wanted to send them like the finished product essentially.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Were you nervous that it would create an issue? Because
I always think that when you know, people start off
in a band, in a group and then they go solo,
it's almost like you know someone in a marriage saying yeah,
I want to I want to sleep with someone else?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And I just wonder how they took it and if
it was a difficult conversation to have.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think we thrive off of proving
like the stigma wrong. So I mean, I'm the last
one to release a solo record, so everyone has a
solo record. Ash was the first one in twenty twenty.
So I think for a band like us, it's actually
necessary to be able to do these types of things
rather than you know, the other way around.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Some great relationships, and I reckon it would be extremely
cathartic to go through the process of writing your own music.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, without everybody in the room.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
One hundred percent now and I've learned a lot, and
you know, having the absence without the boys has made
me really appreciate what the band is. And you know,
the friends that I've made within my bear mates, So
it feels good to have that, you know context.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I guess yeah, any any country flavor on order, k.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Anything with a country flavor.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Now, Christy, Christy, you don't know about this, but Callum
and Mikey, this is years and years ago. We asked them,
is there any chance that we can stitch up Ray
Hadley down at two GB. Ray we all know loves
his country in Western music, just like he's He's m Seed,
you know, the Tamworth, all the big shows. And so
(03:58):
the boys went down and we set up an interview
with Ray and all he knew that these two young
kids that are coming through they were known as the
Summer Brothers and they were here to perform a song.
Ray hadn't heard much about them. There wasn't much on
Google about them. And the boys went in and they
put a country spin on one of their classic hits
(04:19):
and it sounded like this, just thinking.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
With the plane ticket and a shiny you run.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Away Too Long? I love it so perfect, Stan and
there so in lips sixteen, that's great.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I mean, country is totally mainstream now you shouldn't release it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
What was what we were saying off before Christy was
it was just that version became such so popular with
the fan base of Five Saus. They're very quickly went
can you please release that? Can you give us that version?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We actually created a whole because we did the Five
Seconds of Summer Show to celebrate ten years of Five Sus.
This is nearly five years ago now, but me and
Michael we like expanded on the Summer Brothers.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
We actually have more songs now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The Summer Brothers Man Tommy, we got a Red Route Brothers.
I mean, I know you've just performed last night.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But well I'll have a word.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know what it was It took me on a
country album to finally win a Grammy for Best Album.
So this this could be your opportunity for Best Album
at the A're yeah, Callen.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Can I ask you about songwriting? I just I'm so
fascinated by it and the things that happening, you know,
the writer's life sort of inspire a song. And we
just listened to Miley Cyrus actually before we you know,
started talking to you, and her song End of the World,
which everybody loves. It sounds very dramatic, but she's revealed
(06:13):
that it actually, you know, the kernel that started it
was the fact that her mother Tish went on a
holiday without it, and it made it feel like the
end of the warl it was the end of the world,
which was which exactly? And I'm just wondering, do you
have any songs or you know that ended up being
something that feels a lot bigger and more meaningful than
(06:38):
the story that started it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I think like a lot of the songs are kind
of based off of my whole life.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So there's things that I talk about that are, you.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Know, very heavily rooted in my childhood and within my
family dynamics. And then there's things about, you know, my
first breakup or my first love.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So it's like they're kind of little vigna.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's of all the things that I find really meaningful
in terms of shaping who I am.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So don't forget you loved me. It was actually written
by your mum, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was written about you when she went away when
you're in great Ye.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, your other song, call Me When You Know Better
was a song that you made the Telstra I think
made We do love you, you know we do here
and the new album is ordered Chaos or It's out tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Thanks so much for the Red Room. We had such
a great response last night from it. It was an
intimate performance and that's what we love about the Red Room.
So calum mate. It's so good to have you back
in the studio. Brother, thank thanks for coming in.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I appreciate you guys. Haven't we good to see you? Mate?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
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