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April 3, 2025 28 mins
We chatted with the hosts of the Fat Guy Handbook this week & got a review of Zak Bagans' Haunted Museum. You'll want to have a listen before your next trip to Vegas! We've also got some great ghost stories (of course) and another freaky dream to analyze which asks, if you met yourself in a dream, would you kick your own ass? Remember to check out the video on YouTube and to find the companion blog at HauntedAF.com. And please keep sending those spooky stories (& weird dreams to be analyzed) to hauntedafpodcast@gmail.com! 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have got some ghost stories for you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm hearing these voices, but there's nobody else around. I
don't like the skeleton man.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
He's so mean to me and he bites me at night.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
And suddenly this stool, completely of his own volition, slid
good to maybe three feet out into the center of
the bar.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
He walks towards the ocean and he gets to the water.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
He just disappeared.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I feel someone run their hand.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Under my butt cheek, just sliding under my butt.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
So that is my ghost story.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hi, and welcome to hanada As, the podcast of real
ghost stories told by real people. We are your hosts.
I'm Julie Fist and I'm Rerecca Black. So coming up today,
we've got some creepy kids, yeah, really weird dream to analyze.
We've also got what I'd like to call a true
crime adjacent story. Okay, you're gonna like this one a lot.
And we're going to check in with our friends from
the Fat Guy Handbook Podcast because they took a trip

(01:01):
to the Haunted Museum and Vegas and they've got a
review for it. Oh that's exciting, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
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same as the podcast, but with all the photos, all

(01:26):
the videos that we're referencing, so you don't have to
go and find them on the Companion blog. But if
you're an audio file prefer to listen, you can find
the Companion blog at hauntedaf dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And actually, yeah, go check that out because people do
not go to the Companion blog. They do not go
to the Companion which it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Why would you want to hear something and hear us
reference like a hotel or something, and then then.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Go and look at it. I know I always wonder
about that. Before we get into it, I want to
address the videos that we shared last week. Do you
remember Allan's Haunted Mirror That's a good way with his
dog Cooper and then the Spinning Dog Bowl. We didn't
get any feedback on those, wanted it go watch the
dog Bowl video again, tell us do you think that's
an abnormal amount of time for it to be spinning?
Because I watched it and got all freaked out. I

(02:09):
really did.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I do think it is a long time to spend,
especially after I tried to recreate it and failed miserably.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I was like, Okay, maybe something's up, but it's funny
because you were still cocky about it. I was, I'll
give you. I'll give you that, so go check that out.
We did get a lot of feedback from Todd's story
about finding the abandoned urn and then spreading the ashes
of Michael. Todd's all excited because he's hoping that the
story will be shared and that we'll be able to

(02:35):
actually find Michael's family. I hope so yeah, because he
said he's been looking for his next of kin for
years and hasn't had any luck, so fingers crossed. We
also got a comment from Bonnie, who said every spring
I walk my local beaches and river banks to pick
up trash that's collected over the winter. Wow, good for you.
You'd be surprised by how many plastic capsules are sent

(02:56):
down the river in sandwich bags with a note they
get hot in the river banks or lake debris. So
I didn't fully understand what that meant. The plastic capsules,
so I googled it and found out that you can
have your ashes put into capsules so they can be
spread in multiple places. Makes sense. Yeah, So it's not
like the Big Lebowski scene where you just have the
urn and it like blows back in your face.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's all the greatest cinematic scenes of all time.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Perfect. Yeah. So these things are like biodegradable. They're biodegradable
and they dissolve very quickly. So honestly, if you're putting
them in a sandwich bag with a note and stuff,
that's kind of defeating the purpose totally. But I still
think it's awesome. We'll put a link to a company
that actually does this in the show notes is called
Kev's caps with ks. They'll even mix your ashes with wildflowers.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So you could be turned into a garass.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Is it terrible that the first thing I thought was like,
wonderful termia into a garden in the backyard so I
can haunt my husband and his next wife.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
No, yes, I'm sorry, I just assume that's where we
were going.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, good, because that's the plan.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Any opportunity you get to haunt like I think you
should have channel that. Oh embracing. All right, now, let's
get to our stories for this week. This listener wants
to remain anonymous. My grandfather died ten years ago this year.
He had cancer, and his death hit the whole family
super hard. My daughter was born on the day he died,
but three years later. Even when she was a tiny

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kid in her crib she would wake up smiling and
babbling towards our master bathroom. She would say Papa or cocoa,
but she never acted scared. One night, she was standing
in her crib, being the crazy kid she is, and asked, Mama,
who's that guy? I said, what guy? And she pointed
towards the master bathroom and said the guy in white.

(04:37):
Then she just shrugged and sat down. I asked, where's
the guy and she said, oh, no, no, he's gone, gone, gone.
And that was that. When she was about three, we
had her sitting in the center of our bed. Her
dad and I walked out of the room for a minute,
then heard a loud noise in there. We ran back
in because We thought she had fallen off the bed,
but nope, she was just sitting there and playing on

(04:58):
her iPad. We asked, what was that noise, and she
said the door there slammed. It opened then closed. Her
dad opened and slammed the door, and sure enough, it
was the same sound. She is now six and a
few months ago she randomly asked, Mama, remember that time
the door opened and closed on its own, and you
and Papa didn't believe me. I said, yes, were you
messing with us? And she said no, the door really

(05:18):
did just open and close. She also told me that
she always feels like there's someone in our bathroom. She
said it's a man, and he isn't scary, but she
just thinks he shouldn't be in there, none of us. Oh,
no man should be in your bathroom, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Ghost or not. Okay, we have another anonymous story. Everybody's
being secreted this week. Hi, ladies, I've been binge watching
your videos on YouTube over the past few days. I
was just listening to your video from July twenty fourth
of last year, and you said you wanted stories about
the time you live next to a serial killer. Well,
I never lived next to a serial killer that I

(05:52):
know of, But I do have a different story. I
was about nineteen years old and had a job in
a small nursing home as a nurse's aide. My boss
at the time I knew I could sing, and invited
me to stay at her house a few towns over.
She lived down the street from a coffee shop where
they had open mic nights, so she was going to
play the piano while I sang, Oh that's sweet. Everything
went according to plan, but we never did it again

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after that. Eight years later, it was all over the
news that the body of a neighbor girl was found
in that house, partially buried in their basement. My boss's
husband had tried to sexually assault her and ended up
killing her, then tried to cover it up by burying her.
Holy this happened in the same house I had stayed
in with them. Yeah, needless to say, I was shocked.

(06:35):
I think I was probably too old for him at
the time because the girl was only thirteen. Oh my god.
It was later found out he had been abusing his daughters.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
As well as seconding.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
He says, I do believe his wife had no idea
about him. Dude, you got a hope. Anyway, I love
listening to you guys. Also anonymous man, ooh that's awful.
Thank you for that story. And yeah, if you have
a true crime adjacent story like that, dude, we want
to hear it beyond a pillow.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's just a short version today because otherwise it turned
into a weird dance off I have going on that
nobody wants to see.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, we do have a dream to analyze. This is
from Marcy. Hello, ladies.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
I've been a spooky bitch since I can remember, so
y'all are deaf my people?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I love it. I love it. I am a very vivid.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Dreamer and I recall my dreams with lots of detail.
Some dreams are, you know, just dreams, but this one
just hit differently, if you know what I mean. Absolutely.
I am sixty and I have three grown ass kids
who have somehow become older than me. Seriously, I'm only
thirty five of my mom brain. How are they freaking
older than that? I had a dream that I was
back in the house where I raised my kids. In

(07:46):
the dream, I was walking down the hallway to my bedroom,
and when I looked in, I saw one of my
kids as a baby. They were playing on the floor
under one of those baby gem things. Then I saw
myself walking around the side of the bed and thought, wait,
that can't be me. At the same moment, the me
that was in the bedroom looked up and saw me
in the doorway. She arched an eyebrow at me, like

(08:06):
I'm here now, what are you gonna do about it?
Or some shit like that, and I had this protective,
almost angry reaction, so I yelled know and I ran
at the other meme. But when we collided, I woke up.
What in the seriously stupidness is that, Marcy?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I love that so much, same that you see the
young version of yourself and the response is I'm gonna
kick your ass.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Right, like I know that you're up to no good.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh okay, if if you could, like if you could
fist fight yourself, would you do it? Totally? All right?
So Dreamybot dreamy Bot was concerned with this one.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I put it through because I don't think you're supposed
to fight yourself in dreams. Have you ever seen your
other self, another self of you in a dream?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, me, I don't think me. I've never seen anything
like that. So I love this so okay, dreamy Bot says,
the core of the dream lies in the encounter with
your self. Seeing yourself acting as a caretaker to your
baby is significant. It's a representation of a past self
that existed before the layers of existence, responsibility, and perhaps
even resentment have accumulated. That arched eyebrow and the challenging

(09:15):
gaze is key. It's a confrontation, as if this earlier
self is saying, I see you now with all you become,
and I'm not going to passively accept your presence. Your
protective reaction in the subsequent no reveals a deep seated
resistance to fully acknowledging this earlier self. It's possible you've
been suppressing a part of yourself and this dream is

(09:37):
a forceful attempt to bring it to the surface. If
I were to guess, and again, this is ai dreambot speaking.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Not you, not your personal guests.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Are you currently feeling overwhelmed by responsibilities or perhaps feeling
a sense of loss for a part of yourself that
you've had to put aside. Maybe you're mothering Mike if
your kids are grown and you don't have to mother anything.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, she did reference earlier that she's like, how are
my kids older than me?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, it's funny. I've had a lot of these kinds
of thoughts recently because I'm about to be an empty nester.
My youngest kid's about to go off to college, and
she doesn't even want me momming her now. Actually, Marcy
and I were like emailing back and forth a little
bit because I was like, dude, I relate to some
of it.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, because I think that's probably really hard to let
that go. I don't think that ever goes away.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
We got to welcome to the podcast White Cheddar and
Cappy from the Fat Guy Handbook podcast. So I know
Cappy because we used to work together a long time ago.
I'm sure everybody remembers this morning show as Tony Julian
Cappy on the Morning Mix approximately eighty years ago. But
both of you have worked on the kid Cratic Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Correct correct, correct, Yes, we're talking to.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You guys today because both of you have made trips
to Zach Baggin's Haunted Museum, which I think I don't
think you went together.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I was just gonna ask if y'all went together or not.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, road track if it's not recording the podcast, we
do not hang out.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We're not friends, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Same for us, same for us.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
There's no In fact, he was there a week before me. Yeah,
I went to Vegas the weekend before.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, but you were not going to the Zach Baggins
Museum is like a podcast thing. You were just going
for kicking fun.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, I went.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
I went out there with my daughter to see the
eagles at the Sphere and it's been a guilty pleasure
of me and my daughters for years to watch Ghost Adventures,
and so just as for you know, grans, I was like, Hey,
we got to go to this museum and check this out.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Okay, so tell us what you think. You think it's real?
You think it's scary?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, Cheder, do you think it was scary?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
No, I did not think it was scary. Although I've
never watched the show. I didn't know who Zach Bggins was. Like,
I was there. I was just in Vegas on a
fantasy football draft kind of thing with a bunch of
guys and one guy was super fan and he's like,
we have to do this, and I was like, it's
fifty bucks to go do this thing.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
For you did the regular tour because there's also the
flashlight tour, which I think is over two hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I just did the regular one.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yah, there's a flashlight. But then there's regular admission during
the day, which is fifty four shekels. And then if
you want to upgrade to the VIP, which they conveniently
call the rip are nice. Yeah, that's gonna cost you
eighty six. But here's the rub with that is you
get a free T shirt and the shirt's not even
a good quality shirt.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Let it be wow, man, immediately price they're pooping on
T shirt.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
They're pooping on.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
What about the actual experience of going through the museum?
Did anything happen?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do you think it's haunted.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean some of the stuff with the celebrity factor's
kind of cool that I was like, oh, yeah, I
remember that case or that whatever. There's too many and
I am a fan of the knickknack at the house.
You are, look at his room, it's full of knickknacks. Yes,
there are too many knick knacks in this place.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Everywhere.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It's like walking to Grandma's house in every room, And
I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I feel like that kind of makes sense from a
haunted aspect, right, well, crap, you have the creepier it is.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yes and no. I remember the first time I saw
all the Warrens Museum ed and Lorraine, you know the
same thing. They had all of these artifacts, which I
think zag Baggins allegedly has some of them. Right, But
then you see they've got like stupid werewolf decorations and
like Halloween decorations, and it's like, oh, you're just trying
to scare me. Then it just feels like, you know,

(13:18):
it's just a money grab. I know you're not familiar
with zag Baggins White Cheddar, but like stuff like the
death van the Kavorkian.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yes, that was cool. That was cool.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
He wasn't a big fan of the lamar Odom bed
where he odeed, but that's kind.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Of a weird thing to have.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
I feel like, yeah, And then they take you into
this room that is the Bunny Ranch. So it's it
was the VIP at the Bunny Ranch that that dude owned,
and it's got the bed in it that he died
and what was that guy's name.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Cheddar at the Bunny Ranch, I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Somebody died at the Bunny Ranch.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
The guy who ran the Bunny Ranch died in his
bed in a few years before that, lamar Odom apparently
odd in the bed. So they've got the whole bedroom
set suite from the Bunny Ranch and Zach Beggins has
put it in this room in the museum. So they
go in and they're telling you this story and it's like, okay,
it's cool whatever, and then at the end they flip
on black lights and then you get the stains on

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the bed.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
There's like there's a death stain. Dennis Hoff I think
that was his name.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
There was a death stain where this dude died, and
apparently there's some other stains.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
As you can imagine being at a prothel.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
They flip on the black light and the tour guys like, okay,
u VIPs or I'm sorry, rips, you can now go
over and touch the mattress.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Did anybody do it?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
At first, no one had the sack to go over there.
My daughter and I are looking at each other like
this is disgusting. Finally, one dude's like, all right, I'll
do it, so he goes over, and then it's there's
a line of people that go over. The last guy
goes over and he touches the stain.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Rubs the sta Oh.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
We didn't where to you, And I look at my daughter,
I'm like, oh boy, this is weird.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Like how do you go from haunted to pervy that quickly?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, and that's your opener.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
That's your opener. Is people touching like seamen stuff?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah? I agree.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
That's one of the biggest complaints about the Haunted Museum
is that it's exploitative, Like did you feel that way?

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I don't know that it's exploitative in that. I mean,
it's just relics and stuff like the serial Killer room
and the Kavorkian thing you were mentioned in Chaddar. That's
I don't know, that's a cool archive of stuff. It's
like Charles Manson's ashes and right. I wouldn't say that
that's exploitative. It's like going to the Smithsonian, but just
for creepy crap.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I also heard that they pump like some fake sounds
and noises in there to make you feel like it
is actually haunted.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think they do have some ambiance there, but I
don't know if any of it's really meant to I
think it's just setting a mood versus trying to fake
you out.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
I think, let me speak to the ambience, because there
is way too much fake smoke and incense as you
go through this place, or okay, it's it's choking you out.
And it's a two and a half hour tour, so
you're on your feet for two and a half hours
in smoke and incense. And as you go into some
of the rooms, the tour guy who play some videos

(16:19):
and be like, Hey, this is like last summer when
we had these guests here.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
This room is so haunted. Watch what happened to this
one guest.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
This one guest faints and they show the video and
I'm thinking to myself, yeah, because they've been on their
feet for two hours in smoke and incense, Like I'm
dying over here too.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
So there's a ton of ambience like that.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
But then also, what is the room it's with the
I think it's with the Peggy doware not supposed to
look it in the eyes, and they have it. They
do have the SB seven spirit box in there. I
think they're just piping in sound. I don't think that's real.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
One of the reviews I read was like, if you're sensitive,
like an impath or whatever, be careful because you might
be overwhelmed, you might pass out, you might get really
sick when you're in there. But it's like how much
of it is impath and how much of it is
like you can't breathe because they're pumping in all this
smoke and stuff. But okay, let's go through some of
these specific places, like the Dibik Box. Do you remember

(17:08):
that room?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I do.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
So this is the one where you walk in the
room and they show you a video of Zach with
post Malone and they're in there together on a Friday night,
just checking it out. And Zach has this episode and
post Malone is to drag him out on the tour.
Heads like it's so haunted in there with this dipic box.
I refuse to go in there.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Go in there if you want.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
And so you go in and you walk around and
it's in this big like plastic case.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
You're just like, okay, what about the Okay, the staircase
from the Demon House. It was like this house that
was supposed to be super haunted by a demon, which
he's always zag Baggins is always, oh it's a demon.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, every o a demon.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
He had the house torn down, but he kept the staircase.
So did y'all see that?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
We did?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And nothing, nothing, not spooky.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
No, it's it's an old staircase.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
I can't figure out why he bought a house just
to rip a staircase out and tear it down. I
was more questioned about that. I was questioning his finances.
But I thought it was kind of a weird thing.
It wasn't on my list of top things. I think
the Texas Chainsaw'm asking your guy, what's his name?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Ed?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yes, okay, Yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
And I kind of, for some weird reason, liked the
nautical themed room with the Natalie Wood and the Splendor
yacht stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Oh I didn't. I don't think I knew that that
was there.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I didn't know that either.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yacht rocks big nowadays, so we have to have a
nautical room. And they had a bunch of memorabilia from
the Splendor, which was the boat that Natalie Wood got
allegedly killed.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Isn't that Robert Wagner is the one who at Wagner.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, yeah, And it had the coffee table that he
broke his drink on and this and that.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, now I'd like to see that same it.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Was a little more compelling, I thought than some of
the other things.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Do you think you would have liked it more if
it was just treated as like a museum filled with
creepy shit as opposed to like, oh, we're going to
scare you with the smoke and everything.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
I mean, yeah, if there was just scary shit and
you could just wander through your own you know.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, yeah, you have to go through with a group.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
This is completely unrelated, but I did the Rock and
Roll Museum in Cleveland a million years oh yeah, and
they had the plane crash I think it was are
pieces of the plane that was it. Otis Redding was
in when he died, and that was on display, and
I felt real weird about looking at that.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
But really, though, is that any different than like the
Bush Museum that has some of the twin towers h
in it? Is that really all that different?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Like if you go to the nine to eleven Museum
in New York City, I mean, they've got old fire
trucks beat up down there, right, all sorts of stuff,
memorabilia from the people lost in that. I think at
some level any museum can be called exploitative because they
charge money for it. Sure that word did not come
to my head when leaving the museum. What came to
my head was, Okay, I saw it. I'm I was

(19:51):
all right. I mean I didn't paying fifty bucks it
was Was it worth fifty bucks?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Probably not, but it was fine.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's another another one of you say s door like
a sprinkled salt on you, Like you didn't feel like
spirits were following you home or any creepy stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Not me, But they did say don't look at Peggy
Doll in the eyes. And I stared at I have to.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I would have to this one. And as grossed out
as she acted, I bet she would touch the spit,
the stain.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I already know that I would actually touch the many
many years ago when I worked for a radio station
in La we went to the Playboy mansion and they
were like, go take pictures in the grotto and I
was like done, And I hopped on that mattress so quick,
and it is moist. Oh, I bet it is the
whole Like one side of me was wet when I got.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Up, so and that wasn't from the mattress.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
So you guys are not like paranormal dudes. Let's start
with white Cheddar, Like, what does scare you?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Mmm, I've got to go renew my license at the DMB.
Although we have I have had an experience or two
with our orbs considered.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, depending on what kind of it's.
If it's an ORB on your ring doorbill is probably
a spider.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
But what do you I've got a few.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I put an actually ring camera in my attic and
over the last year, two times it's pulled an or
about and I live in a house with my girlfriend
and her ex's dad died in the room below it.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, we'd be interested in seeing that, definitely. We have
a tendency to shit all over or videos just so
you know, but that that sounds cool.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
We didn't in the beginning, but I think the further
we get into this podcast, the more we're like, nah, questionable, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Because we would post them and then everybody would come
in and give us hell. So, yeah, you only have
to go through that so many times. What about you, Kapy?

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I have a couple of stories, but let me just
start with this one. I don't know if you will
be able to see this or even believe it. But
do you remember a couple of years ago in Texas,
maybe three go now, when we had that big ice
we were off for like a week.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Everything was shut down.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, when Ted cree into kan Kun.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, yes, okay, that's one exactly. So we didn't have
any power at the house. And so I was there
with my fiance at the time and my daughter's and.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
We were playing uh.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Oh fun.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
See this picture in the light by the fireplace.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, so you guys set the move, you did.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
We did, we did.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
And so if you zoom in on this, there was
a little light orb that's caught in this picture.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh are you talking about that?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm talking about that. Now you're saying that's what are
you saying? That is cheddar?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You're shaking bullshit. I'm saying an iPhone three you took
that on?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, it wasn't. And then I zoomed it in and
there was a face. You could see a face in
that thing. Do you see the face?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I see eyes.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It looks like a cat face to me.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I see definitely two little spots where.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
The ass would be right in the mouth right here.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
There's any one that does that.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
There's the face right there.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yes, I see it as well.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's kind of a thing. We've gotten a couple of
orb photos and stuff, and when you do that, when
you scroll in, you see things that look like faces.
The not fun response to that is something called paradolia,
which y'all might have heard, where your brain will look
at something and if it can't make sense of it,
it'll find a face. It'll make a face in it
for you, which sucks, like I would rather just be

(23:29):
a ghost. But did anything else happen during the Wigi
board experience?

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Not during the Wiji board experience, but several years earlier.
I was in bed and I was sleeping alone, and
in the middle of the night, I felt this pressure
on my chest, just pushing me down, like into the bed.
I felt like I was just sinking into the bed,
an immense pressure on my chest, and all of a sudden,
I just went and I woke up and there was nothing,
nobody there, and I swear that there was some sort

(23:55):
of spit it in there. There was a ghost, there
was a demon, there was something pushing on my chest.
It was really it was really weird.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's like a common thing. Actually, the what do they
call it, the old crone or whatever. If you look
it up, there these really great drawings of like this,
an old woman sitting on your chest.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh, it's a.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Story that Emma told us what I will not remember. Yes,
but it was a I shouldn't even tell the story
if I don't know the specifics. But but we have.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Had several no one's fact checking this. It's completely fine.
It would be I had an old lady on my face,
an old crone's disease.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
That would make an excellent commercial for that drum right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I feel like you got an old lady sitting on
your face crones disease.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
But Kapy, could you move?

Speaker 5 (24:44):
I don't know if it was a dream, I don't
know what it was. But I was paralyzed and I
could not move. When I came out of it, and
I did, I popped up for breath, I could move,
But when I was asleep or whatever, No, I couldn't
get this off my chest and I was trapped and
I couldn't move my body.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Wow, it was weird.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I just want to know the real reason his ex
wife was sleeping in the other bedroom.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think we know.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Maybe because the old chrome lady was.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Obviously obviously Yeah, well, thanks guys for coming on and
pretty much shitting all over the Haunted Museum.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's that's well stuff to know, you know, it's what
we do.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
But let me can I give a shout out to
Zach Baggins though, really, because.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Oh gosh, where is it? I'm so bad at this.
But he did repost. He gave me a repost.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Nice and right after you went and visited the museum,
he gets broken up with with his girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, he and Holly Madison are broken Zach Braggan? Is
he single?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
She doesn't sound like a hooker? Wow? What kind of name?
Holly Madison?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Girls next door?

Speaker 4 (25:44):
She used to have to have sex with you when
you was all drunk up?

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, oh sorry, I don't follow that crowd. I'm I'm
at church when that's happening.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Okay, I'm sorry, but that was the greatest reality shows
on television.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
I would like to submit to evidence your honor, that
I go to the museum and bad shit happens to
Zach Baggins, So.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're the curse. I don't think that. I think he
was excited about the breakup with Holly Madison. However, Aaron Goodwin,
you could be responsible for that. Maybe you jinx that
whole situation.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, the whole crew's falling apart now that we went
out there chatter.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I'm sorry, is it a jinx? Because Travel Channel is
playing that show on repeat? What is ther show called
Ghost Adventures?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, they're playing it literally on repeat twenty four to
seven right now. So are they really hurting?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
No?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
No, they're banking off of that right now.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, guys, thank you so much. I feel like we
know a lot more. We're going to be better prepared
if we go to Vegas and go to the Hunted Museum.
But honestly, if and when Rebecca and I go, we
will still go. Oh totally yeah, because I want to
see if Rebecca does touch the spot and roll around,
I feel like you probably will not.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Gonna smell it.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's too far. And where can everybody find your podcast
on Patreon?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Bat Guy handbook? That's easy to remember, Patrion.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, thanks guys, and if you ever have any more
ghost stories or you do any creepy adventures, we'd love
to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
And on that note, it is time to wrap up.
Thank you again to Cappy and White Cheddar. From the
Fat Guy Handbook podcast for their Haunted Museum review. By
the way, summer is coming up. We know lots of
your planning haunted road trips of some kind, so please
consider yourself a Haunted AF correspondent. Send us your stories.
We love to hear about it from you directly and
share some of those photos or videos with us because

(27:23):
we simply can't visit all the places on our own.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
And it's another way to be on the podcast for
those of you who always want to be a part
of the show but you don't have ghost stories to share.
But if you do, you know the Drill, Yes, Ghost, Bigfoot, Ufo, Glitchen,
the Matrix, whatever stories, your true crime adjacent stories. Send
all that scary stuff to Haunted afpodcast at gmail dot
com so we can use it on the next hontiap.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
And don't forget to subscribe to hanted AFF on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher,
wherever you listen to podcasts. Please follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube,
and of course TikTok. You can even contact us directly
through our way wesite handaf dot com.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Gotta say thanks to Andrew Mamaliga and Travis Vance for
the Hontiday of theme song and to on air media
for titles and technical support. Also big thanks to all
of the Honiday of Patreon supporters.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Most of all, we have to thank you for listening
and for sharing your stories with us. By the way, Julie,
if I die first, I'm coming back to haunt you.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'll come back to haunt you too. Rebecca
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