November 5, 2024 • 47 mins
Max and Wolf discuss some comments from Teryl Austin on how the Steelers defense can improve in certain areas.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
There's lots of things that we can do better.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Just a couple of things are after bad way, you know,
in terms of yards after cats, yards after carry, we're
giving up too many of those in that regard, you know.
So those that's just one area. But there's different areas
that will identify and we'll look at and say, hey,
we can get better at, and the things that we're
good at, we want to make sure we continue to
stay good at those things.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And that, of course is Tarrell Austin, defensive coordinator for
the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he's talking about some of the
things they do good and some of the things that
they don't do so good. Part of it would be
you're talking yackyards both run and catch, and you're talking
about the fact that you've got to make sure the
pile falls backward. Not forward as it has over the
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last couple of weeks, it seems to me. So Max,
I ask you, what's your impression of it, because certainly
you want to keep a lot of the things that
they're doing. They're doing some great stuff, been really good,
making adjustments at halftime, second half, coming out, shutting things down,
but you want to make sure that you're tackling the
chunk plays aren't killing you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh man, No, I think tackling is on full display
and needs to be on full display because we've seen way,
like you said, way too many instances of short to
negative plays turned to positive and great plays. And yeah,
it comes down to you know, hey, you know if
you watch Mode night FOOTBA last night, you saw them
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trying to tackle Kareem Hunt, right. I mean it was
it was it was Jack Yards. It was it was
it was hit on contact then yards after said contact,
and it was just it was. It's something that the
league is struggling with. So it's not just a unique
Steelers problem, but you know, it's still something you need
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to button up. I mean, here's the thing. You know,
the league is averaging per game at least two hundred
and forty six almost two hundred and forty seven yards
in a football game, so which is up by like
eleven yards on average, the average yards to gain four
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point three yards per rush, which is one of the
highest averages over the last ten to fifteen years. It's like,
I think fourth highest average over the last twenty years
of the NFL has has been you know, tracking analytics
and everything.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I thought, I thought that was a very popping thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So the fact that we started out with that a
lot of me to use all this knowledge in the
old gordo bud and uh and kick out some numbers
for everyone.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Is the gordo doing there, bud.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, the gordo is yeah he fat yeah, because I
just realized that gordo in Spanish means fat oh.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, so the Gordon the melon, you know, it's all okay,
it's working good, obviously it is.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The milange is working.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
We get something early.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm just making words up right now at this point. Okay,
but but but but but I think that is something.
And the emphasis on that, right Wolf. I mean, you know,
Tyrone Tracy ran crazy all over us.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
He did, and I like you, I see what you're
doing there. You got that poet thing going.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, you see, you see, you know it's like listening
their rhythm. You you just gotta you just gotta submit
to it. Woll If you can't can't fight it, let
me ask you to fight it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It hurts you think you could have been a beat
nick back in the fifties, you know, you know, hitting
some some poetic lyrics on the checks, you know, back
when you're a young guy single and that sort of thing.
You know, you're wearing one of those those cats, you know,
like the poets would wear, and maybe you know, one
of those swatters with the high collar thing.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, and the cravat shirt as well. You know, it
was perfect little pompadoor pants.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I could have walked up, could have walked around as
a real thespian, Yeah, exactly. Shakespeare would have been would
have been excited. No, I did not have that type
of game. I didn't have or what the kids would say,
your your your mouthpiece game is weak.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah there you go, yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, but granted I have no lets, so no cap buddy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah exactly, no cap all toboggans.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Even even when they said that to me, and I
told this before. I can't help it though, when I
did that thing for the Hall of Honor and he
said no cap, and I said, I don't have a
cat to go. No, no, I know you don't have
a cap, but it's not it's no cap. Well, I said,
I don't have a cap.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
It's like who's on first?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's like, you know, it's like that Spider Man mean
when he just pointing back at each other.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You did it, you did it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's like, what's up Myers and rise Lets. We're finna
take a tour.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Finna take it to Oh my god, I'm like.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Where's the rest of the word, like finish that's there's
some gems in there, but we're finna take a tour.
It is my favorite.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
It's like, yeah exactly. I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was like, who got a hold of Urban Dictionary
before they before they tape that. Yeah, they said to
write that for you.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
The first time I heard that, though, Man, it sounds
like I am concussed.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
My We're finna take a tour?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is killing take a tour?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
This is just killing me with.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
This, dude.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Listen, listen, we're not mad at you, We're just mad
at the writer. That's all it is, your script exactly.
Oh my god, this is hilarious. Yeah yeah, oh boy,
once again it was again.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
We're trying. We're trying.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
We're trying to recapture youth here wolf. That's all we're
trying to do right now. You know, it's it's it's
just too far gone. This is where I cook. There
we go.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, you know, like you were in a kitchen.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know, that's the whole thing about it. I should
have been in a kitchen. What what's for that?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I don't. I don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You know, it's like they think, they think fact guys
want sunshine. But listen, I will take shelter. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm like, hey, hey, no, no, bring it on, bring
it on if you're willing to keep me dry.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Because oh my god, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So that Casey game was wet, but nothing compared to
that Green Bay game. Man, that game looked miserable.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Oh you're about Detroit green Bay? Yes, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
My gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I was like, man, I was like, I'm so glad
I got a new Steelers rain jacket, because if we
got to deal with any of that, you know, towards
the end of the season, I'm gonna be like, Nope,
I'm layering. I'm layering this year. Oh yeah, forget forget
the iron man stuff. I am seeking comfort. Man.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I remember being in a downpour one time in Tampa
Bay broadcasting and I crept into the tent with the
Steelers guys shooting on the sidelines. I'm down in the air,
not the the no, it was where the communications thing was,
you know, and they had a tent over it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh yeah, have the tent behind the benches.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So I got in there. It was kind of like
the camel that stuck a foot in and got the
head in, got the shoulder, you know, and then finally
wedged my way in and I just stood there during
the worst part of the storm as it was pouring.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Man, listen, that that's what Baltimore's in the last two years.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Oh yeah, that's right. Last year that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's like, oh my gosh, I'm like, man, I was
like that that's been the worst because it's also been
a night game and for whatever reason, a freak storm
cell comes through. That was like maybe kind of like
a twenty thirty and then by the time games is
like and it's gonna go all game.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And you're just like, oh, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm holding a metal microphone in my hand while it's
freezing and it's wet on top of that, so now
my hands cannot get warm for whatever I do. Oh man, Yeah, yeah,
I do not miss like weather issues that do arise
in open air stadiums.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I used to love that when I was a player.
I mean, the worst the weather, the better I liked it,
just because then other guys didn't like it, hated it,
and you could tell in their play they didn't want
to be there. You know, they're they're doing what they
got to do to just get by, but they didn't
want to go down in the dumps and you know,
land in the mud and stuff like that and then
have to scrape it off then get back up and
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do it all over again. But I loved it. The
grungeurier and the worst the attraction, the better it was
for me. I just like that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh yeah, because I mean, because like you said, you
get the mall at that point.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, like all things.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Are equal, you know that that two hundred and eighty
five pound defensive tagle doesn't look as tough when he's
over there acting like he's trying to stand up on
a slipping slide, you know, exactly like a baby deer
on ice is like, yep, I'm coming for you, ba
coming for you.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It reduces, it evens out the athleticism between guys, you.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Oh yeah, well you can barely stand up, you know,
and you're slogging around in the mud. It just kind
of evens it out. So those great athletes that run
a you know, a four nine forty and they're you know,
they're three hundred pounds, you know, they're not nearest dynamic
in movement capable when you're when you're ankle deep in mud.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah no, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
When you got to do a high knees for your
for your play, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win.
And it's like it for us, it's like, well, you know,
I'm only picking my I'm only picking my foot up
to graze the grass blades up at one in front
of the other. Anyway, So this is this is no easier.
I'm like, you are a lot easier to move than
(10:51):
than an F two fifty super duty, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And I'm like, hey, let's let's bring it on. Let's
bring it I hope, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And I got my wish against the Miami Dolphins was
like seven or whatever came down and Roe.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Four was the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Seven was the one where the storm came through like
late in the year, like around Thanksgiving, is right, And
and that was the game where where Mitch Burger lawn
darted it in the into the sod. Oh yeah up
here you're talking about, yeah, up up in Pittsburgh. So yeah,
now we we And that was another one. We always
seemed to have bad weather when we played the Dolphins.
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It was never like a clear day.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I like that, you know, because guess I guess it
was not upset about that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
This guy we played them at three Rivers one time
with we had nothing to lose. I mean, there's we
weren't going anywhere. It was the end of the season
they had, you know, they weren't going anywhere. And the
dude I was playing was he had those those great sweats,
you know, you know how you got the the the
leggings that that the like yoga and stuff like that.
(11:57):
The yoga pants the guys were wearing. This guy was
wearing those baggy you know, the grays, the thick gray sweatpants.
He's got his football pants over the top of him.
He's got a hoodie with the hood hanging out the back,
which might be fashionable now, but it wasn't then.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, he's got he's got gardening gloves on because I
guess I guess they didn't bring h winter winter gloves
for the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
He just had this look on him every.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Snap was like, let's just get this play over, get
the game over, and get back on the plane and
go back to Miami because I'm freezing.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
That's exactly what he looked like every play.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's like one of those games where the guy
gets mad when the when the guy goes out of
bound and stops the clock. Yeah, but you're you're like
on Devon's like, come on, man, if you got to
die for the first down, die for the first down
and bounds, geez, stop angling out.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, to take it back to the original thing that
we brought about with with Terrell Austin, he's talking about again,
the tackling about doing the doing the good things. What
would you say were the high points of the defense.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Thus far Oh got pressure many pressure. Pressure was king
I mean to and to get it from all sides, right,
I mean you already knew what you know when when
TJ was unchecked, he was he was unhinged on opposing quarterbacks.
But I love the interior pass rush right Cam Larry
(13:27):
Oh on the inside, and even little flashes of young
Keanu Benton in there. And then of course heighsmith Man
High Smith just is the maestro. Her Big was another one.
They just provided so much pressure made it tough on
everyone to pass. I mean, you look at where Kirk
Cousin was week one when we faced him versus where
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he's at now.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm glad we got him at the beginning. A but
B they just also.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Goes to show you how well the pass rush was
hitting home and affecting the quarterback like ment, I just
throw it quick, you know, But no, I gotta throw
quick because these guys in my face, so.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You know what I'm saying, Like you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They can't really think he's going to react because the
pass rush is so consistent with the Steelers highlight is
that and secondary guys catching balls, right, you know all
the interceptions we had in the first half of the season.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, the guy one of the guys that I
think is making such a huge difference in the first half.
Obviously Action Jackson, Deontay Yeah, and his interceptions. But the
fact is, Deshaun Elliott, this dude is fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I just had him on tape last night watching again,
and you know, you watch him and the stuff that
he does so so suddenly, whether he's coming from off
you know, in the third level and then blitz in
a gap, or whether he creeps up and he gets
himself in the box and works there. This guy can
really bring a hit and bring a hit hard, heavy
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and take a guy down. I mean, there's just I
got a out of respect for his game. I appreciate
what I've seen thus far with him.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
So you mean deceleration Trauma.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Said, you got the guy that's the man.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
There he is? Yeah, No, he he is. He he is.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He's like you know, I talked about missiles and dynamite.
He is, he is a walking stick of dynamite.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And and and I mean then the most positive of ways,
like if there's an opportunity to blow it up. He's
going to blow it up. He's gonna wedge himself like
a rock. And of mind, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's going to he's gonna bring the he's going
to bring the pain. And and that's what you love.
And such a short tackler on top of it. I
thought you pointed it out excellently, like when he hits,
he sticks yes, and and and that that that that's
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one of those tremendous traits. And when you think about,
you know, the defense, who's the thumpers, right, well, you
look no further than of course you and I know him,
know him as Aaron Jones, blah blah blah blah. No,
you got Deshaun Elliott, Who's who's sticking down? And then
Landon Roberts. I was I was trying to think of
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his nickname twenty three and me got caught up at it.
But you know, yeah, those are the those are the thumpers.
You know, when they hit, they cause issues. And I've
just I've loved the way that the rest of the
team has kind of come up with it with that
same type of identity that if you're going to go
up and make a play, like young Beanie Bishop right
on the edge is when they're trying to throw those
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now screens.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
He had a couple of really good ones.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Dante's a really a really aggressive tackler as well. You know,
and look at look what it has done to Joey Porter Jr.
You know, JPJ JPJ. I mean we remember a year
ago right where it was like he's a dB, he's
trying to cut, block, tackle, he's not rapping, and he
missed a remember he missed a couple of those tackles
against the Rams, yep, against like Nikula, and we're like,
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oh man, but you know, and but he did some
good covers. He was like, man, he's got he's got
to learn how to tackle. He's learned how to tackle guys,
He's learned how to tackle. Heared that secondary has been really, really,
really solid at tackling for the most part. Now, we
had a little bit of a regression against the Giants.
I think a couple of shoulder charge tackles where they
thought the guy was gonna go down.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
He didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
A couple of couple like bad angles. But you know,
when you have Elliott and Landon, you know, do I'm
gonna go with double ease there to describe it that
they may they make it look easy. Now the now
the flip side of that is, if you're a walking
stick of dynamite, there's no precision, so you might you
might catch him friendly fire from your teammates. Uh right,
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And they've definitely caused a couple of those that Tyron
Tracy played the forty five yard are right. That was
one where guys ran into each other, you know, taking
a bad angle, and that's what led to even further.
And so because they missed, but then they missed, it
took one of their own out that was in pursuit.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, it was also that happened with Breech Hall. You
remember the week before, Yes, you know, you got one guy.
It was like bowling for dollars. It was an eight
ten split. One guy took out two, you know, and
they all went out. All right, we got to go
to break because we have the great Albaro Martine is
up next, and of course you want to make sure
to get your Spanish on because this guy brings it
each and every week. We'll be back with more here
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
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Now here's Craig wolf Lee and Max.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Starks neighbor's Markala for Joey Porton.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
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Speaker 3 (19:30):
La trifecta again.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Momento massive.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Persona is domosa key. I don't even know what I'm
saying right now.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I just I just completely just started using a couple
of Spanish words.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
But no, it is.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It is the one, the only Alvaro Martin who inspires
me to go do my duo lingo because I always
forget to do it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Alvaro, pleasure to see you. But how are we? I
do know it this week? Como st I do that?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
It sty moving in Max and Craig, I'm actually calling
you from Mexico City, which remember the altitude is fifty
percent higher than Denvers.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
When you get out of the plane, you take your
first walk steps out and you kind of walk normally.
At the end of that little walk by the jetway,
you're like oh oh, oh, oh oh, this is different.
And then the other interesting effect is whenever you bend down,
say your tire, your laces, whenever you actually get on
your knees or get down is when you actually feel
the impact of the most. So I don't know how
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football players come here and play, but apparently all arrows
are pointing to the Steelers. Maybe if the league wants
it to be to be like that, the Steeers may
actually be playing here next season. That would be That
would be unbelievable. That would be unbelievable. And then this Sunday,
we're going to the watch party in a city you
both know well, Monterey, Mexico. And so I'm on my
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Mexico dour and he guys bought a meager first class.
When I was walking over the coach and I think
he's gonna be my opening act.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
There we go and there was no Keith Richards there.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Huh No, no Keith. You know Keith. You know Keith.
Keith has to go to a clinic and I cleansed
his blood every single morning.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know, I got to tell you something of in Detroit.
You remember the halftime Detroit Max, you know who? Yeah,
that was the stones, the stones. So there I am.
I'm down there. I'm close enough to the stage. I
can see that that Keith Richards is like a marionette puppet.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I think.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I think he died years ago, and they just kind.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Of move him around, you know, they get like a
marionette puppet there, man, I mean, they guy.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
The guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
You can still play the guitar. He kind of tools
his guitar a little oddly, so the sounds a little off,
but in a wonderful way. And you know, I just
think that you keeps them going.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
It was like football, no doubt about it, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I mean, the guy has he's got these open tunings,
which are like all strings are tuned to one cord.
It's very interesting in what he does with his slide
work and so for But anyhow, regardless, that's for another time.
So tell us about the fact that you went down
to call an NBA game.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yeah? You know, it's a short commute six and a
half hours each way, you know, and so the only
thing you can the only thing you can come, you know,
kind of conclude from this is somebody really really likes
me to say no, no, you've got to be here.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
The fact of the matter is Amazon, as you know,
is moving into the NBA next year in the States,
but they actually moved into Mexico last season, and so
they have a number of games, a limited number of games.
And uh, they inaugurated this set, beautiful set here in
Mexico City, and they wanted everybody on board. So I
may be calling future games, but remotely, and then I'll
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come here every now and then as the football season allows.
When they actually wanted to launch on the twenty eighth,
which is that Monday night against the Giants, I told her, listen,
I made that commitment to the Steelers. I can't bail out.
They were about to call mister Rudy. I mean they
were like, no, no, you gotta be here. You got
to Beer said no, guys, it doesn't work that way.
I signed the contract. I'm going on Monday. The actor shot.
(23:19):
But it's a fun group and I think Amazon, as
you saw on Thursday night, you know, Thursday Night, you
may not be the most attractive slate of games. Every
now and then you do get a great one. But
the way they approach the game, particularly on the analytics
and these alternative broadcasts. I think that's really interesting. And
if you like football, you kind of stick on that channel.
(23:39):
You hear the announcers, but you're not getting the TV
view of the game. You're looking at the kind of
the coaches view of the game. And it's a lot
of fun to watch that stuff. So I hope they
do the same for basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That would be really cool. And yeah, it is. It
is fun to see it from different perfectives. You know,
it's funny.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I was.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I was actually talking with uh Mario Zeka and uh,
you know, he he he does that kind of stuff.
He's he's elite lead lead crew and and and for
uh for Fox and they and he kind of talked about,
like from the baseball perspective, like all of these new
different views and alternative views that you need to have,
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right to bring the game a little bit closer and
to create different different opportunities, right with viewing as far
as how you want to see it. I mean, and
we already see those multiple broadcast fronts, you know, like
you said, Amazon does it, but also Monday Night Football
on the ESPN side, right, you have all these alternative
versions of of the game to watch, and you know,
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you go in there and you know in the ESPN
Plus has like, oh you just want to watch the
skycam footage, you know, from from one perspective, you can
do that now. So I mean the way that we
consume sports is definitely rapidly changing it and I think
it'd be no different than you know, for what we
get with with basketball. Well because because how far have
you heard of like cosm Yes, uh yeah, So I
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mean just like those type of perspectives.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I mean, so Wolf for like.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Cosm is is this interactive experience.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Where you go to these venues.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And you wear the VR headsets and they have cameras
in certain you know, certain stadiums and certain nights or
certain games that they can do it where you put
these virtual headsts on. It's like you're standing on the side.
So it's like it's like where we were we'd be
for like the sidelines, Like they give you these crazy
views that make you feel like you're fully immersed in
the environment.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
They have two locations in the US. I think it's
LA and maybe Dallas. They're going to start roaming out
more in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Atlanta has one online.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now, to which Atlanta in l A and there. The
cameras are very special because they're kind of three sixty
and they are all placed at field or court level,
so it looks like you're sitting on the front row literally.
A game you're watching and they go pan to the
end zone. There's a camera at the end zone and
you're watching the guys like they're literally ten yards away
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from you, and it's protected on a screen that kind
of surrounds you, and it is. It is an incredible experience.
I'm sure that a ways to shrink it and ship
it so they can have one of these in every city,
but it's incredible. Now, let me give you a little
story about how how the world's changing. Right. You know,
we broadcast our games on digital audio. It's heard around
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the world. We have a radio partner in Mexico with
twenty stations in twenty major cities Seas for FM stations,
so it's a powerhouse. And then we have the app. Right,
and so we're doing a game I don't know a
year or two ago and the head of digital that
you know very well comes up to us and say,
what did you guys say in the bosk? And I
can't remember if the Steiers had won or lost. This
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is mid season, and I can't remember what it was.
What was memorable about that? I said, we would just
give you the kind of the six to seven minute
wrap up.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
What did you say said?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I don't remember, but it was nothing that sticked to
my mind. Can't remember when we won or lost. That
video on x which is Twitter, garnered a million views
that seven minute video of a game that already had
been decided and every could access to score. I still
don't remember who we said. I can tell you it
wasn't memorable. There's a reason why people wanted to find
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out or share it unbeknownst to any of us. We
just don't know why. Now here's the realization, Greg and Max.
You know right now, for some of those moments, you
get more viewers than you had watching the game itself
for a factor of twenty. And so when you look
(27:42):
at a game four hour broadcast, it's the highlights that
generate the most people watching any second of that piece
of content. And so now, and I'm hearing you. And
if there's a guy that I worked with last night
who did the first game, I did the second game
NBA game last night, it's an old friend of mine,
his name is Kik, and I is from Mexico, and
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Keick is hyked up. And every play, even a standard
three pointer, is kind of like a not quite a
buzzer beater, but really a tremendous play, and some people
don't like that. And I just sat there and listened,
and I realized Keek has adapted to the new world,
because Kek knows that they can clip any play that
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he called, and it's just perfect to draw engagement and
to draw views. And so he now caused the game
not for the game, but for the highlight. And then
there's a hidened sense of the highlight. If you get
a play like that, or a moment like that, it's
like everybody's eyes go wide. You look at your analysts,
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and everybody looks at each other and goes, we got
we gotta do this. And so the job of the
play by play is to get the moment and get
the most of the moment. And then the analyst, because
the editor, remember as soon as the excitement dies down,
is ready to cut, the analyst has to make sure
that what they say makes the edit go oh, hold on,
(29:08):
keep that in there, Oh hold on, hold on, keep
that in Okay, cut here, and now that becomes the
most profitable and revenue raising part of a broadcast. It's
it's kind of wild. It's wild, but that's where the
this is going.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So let me let me put into my terms. Okay again,
So when Saquon Barklay does the triple Lindy with a
reverse half split somersault, whatever it was that he did,
you know, with the rear view mirror. Uh, the fact
is that that would make the highlights, right, and he
would go that crap crazy on it.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I'm not saying they're going to make more money off
that highlight than they did of the game, because the
NFL has that huge audience still, but increasingly, particularly for
games are not, you know, sort of high profile, you'd
be surprised how the highlight and and what the money
they make off the highlight becomes an important part of
the game. So you have to have the game so
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you can extract these moments, right, And it's crazy, it's crazy.
And so again the NFL is a little in newer
to that because they have such a big audience to
start with that they generate just by sitting there on
the couch. They generate all the sales that the NFL has.
But these moments are incredible. And I don't know if
you saw there was a video of the bench reacting
to the play. You can't even see the reverse somersault
(30:27):
that he did, but you see the Philahelphia Eagles bench react.
That went for viral millions. And so that's the way
it works. Now, it's crazy as the audience is fragmented,
that's the way it goes. So we got to reach
everybody in every way possible. Some things that they may
need from us could be something that you Craig or
(30:47):
you Max myself are simply unable to provide. So let's
bring somebody else to provide that. And so we'll see
where it all goes. But I think it's going that
way that the audience is fragmenting and you got a
fish with a fish are period.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now here's a question for you of VRO because like
you said, uh, you know, you have the secondary screen
viewing highlight worthy where the source comes from environment and
media consumption. You know, do you think there is going
to be a trickle down where you start to see
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players trying to create those environments so that that does
happen for more attention for themselves. I mean, I could
see how that in certain sports that could happen.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Well, I can tell you right away that and the
NBA Raymond Green is involved in some interesting play, not
one of the disciplinary or game girl issues, just a
big play in the playoffs, and of course he's duty
bound and contract bound to go after the game and
face the press. So they asked him about that. He goes, no,
that was a really interesting play, and I want you
(31:52):
to tune into my podcast tonight when I'm going to
you know, talk about that play in detail. So I
hope you can join in the podcast to night. He
just yoh, no, yeah, he privatized information that should be
public and said, I don't know, I'm gonna make money
off that because I was there and you want to
hear my view. I think that's going to happen increasingly
where the player will withhold information or just keep you
(32:13):
really not the script answer and say, you know what
for that answer, listen to my podcast.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah that's wild, that's wild. Well, hey, listen listen.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
We're in an ever consuming personal branding era with professional sports,
so it is no surprise there would you hear that
type of stuff. I mean, but the good thing is
you still got sources, like you know, the old cronies
over here that are that are gotting away on the airwaves,
Wolf and I and of course having you on here.
(32:45):
You know, we still have the traditional way of doing
it as well. But you're right, I mean, the player empowerment,
the player, you know, driven media aspect of it is
definitely a bigger part than it was ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I don't think there's anything obsolete. I don't think you
guys right at the top of the team, you've got
you know, people in the team, your privilege that you
get to see things and understand things because you've played
and you've been doing what you're doing for so many years.
I don't think you're going and no one's going away.
It's it's basically how information is going to be processed
(33:18):
and who's going to be the one saying things that
will actually get the market's attention. It's a marketplace of ideas,
and so you know, you compete every day, and that
happened when you first started doing anything, and it will
continue until you retire. There's always a natural sense of competition.
Let me tell you something else I heard. This is
this is incredible. I heard apparently the NBA now is
(33:39):
offering in Spanish and Portuguese artificial intelligence calls of games.
Say what artificial intelligence calls of games in those.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Languages, that's artificial intelligence.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
So what they do, what they do and the technology does,
is they grab the call of the English announcers and
then they come up with voices that sound like the
Englis announcers but are speaking Portuguese and Spanish. Now it's
a little clunky. It's a little clunky, and they can
never get excited. And as you know from the calls,
(34:17):
you know, for Spanish and Portuguese audiences, emotion matters. And
so when you simply take the English broadcast, there's something missing.
It's like a steak without any salt. You're put a
little salt on it, but there's no salt around on
the table.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry. I'll finish your thoughts there.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Here's the point. But technology is advancing up so that
it's almost simultaneous. So's it takes the English call of
that play, turns around the probably qudifies the English translated
to Spanish, and then generates a voice in Spanish that
reads that roughly the same voice as the original English announcers,
but only in flawless Spanish and Portuguese. Again, the translation
(34:59):
could be clunky at times. I think they're going to
fix that. It's it's the emotion and cultural part that
I think is missing completely.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well, then what I need from you is your ability
to be able to do myron. Cope, that would be great,
you'd be awesome right in Spanish.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Well, I think they're gonna I think what they're going
to do is take all of Myron's available audio and
study it and come up with with, you know, a
kind of a digital Myron. I think that's coming.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
How do you say YOI in Spanish?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
YOI?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, that's answer.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah in Spanish is as close to yeens as has
it has to be period. I mean, there's no there's
no substitute. Really, it's like learn yeen's that's all.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh my gosh, this is this is hilarious because anyway,
guys expecting some crazy, some crazy answers.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
There's something pivotal happening later on today, at the end
of the day today and now it's not the presidential election,
of course, it's the trade deadline, right, and it's going
to be interesting to see when you look at Pittsburgh,
they have so many players that potentially, first of all,
are coming back and potentially could be coming back, that
all of a sudden, this team that's already shown resiliency
(36:24):
and death has more pieces to play. It's almost like
you're gaining Christmas gifts over a period of weeks. Oh
we get this gift this guy coming back. Oh we're
going to pluck this player over here. Oh what can
we do with this returning player? And it's just a
great place to be all the way. If we're really
really lucky, imagine having co Holcam back, Although that may
(36:46):
be a bridge too far, but let's imagine that he's
already rehaving let's see where he goes be having all
these players coming back, and I just I just I
think it's a fascinating moment. Of course, it's the toughest
part of the season, the Baton Death March. We're about
the face And if anybody Washington was going to be
a push over, well you know that's the way the
(37:06):
NFL works, too bad. So there's nothing easy from now on.
It could go sideways, or it could keep climbing. But
I just find that the amount of people coming back
and the cohesion of the team, particularly an offense no
matter what the defense they face, will be fascinating, fascinating
(37:26):
to see. I think that's the story of the second
half of the season. Where's the ceiling of this offense
with a quarterback that really started playing with them in
earnest mid season, and how far can they go? And
how much can they click? And how varied can they be?
And how can the game plans evolve and how can
they be multiple? I mean all those questions. We know
(37:48):
that they can, but will we see that in front
of us in this tough stretch through the end of
the year. It's an exciting time and literally for me,
it's like Christmas with all these great gifts up being
kind of to you one day. It's like they're sprinkled
you along the way. Well, this one's coming back this week,
and this guy's coming back to following weekend, that one
maybe coming back in two weeks time. And one of
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the guys that I really want to see come back,
and he's not one of those top names you think
about it is mont Adams. I think mont Adams gives
this team a death and a quality of play, which
of all people that are hurt, and there are some
good players hurt. I tell you, I think he needs
to get back there. I sleep a lot better knowing
(38:31):
that he's back and he's back doing his thing.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Okay, I'll see your mon Adams, which I agree, I
like him, but I also let me let me put
it this, Zach Fraser, I'll one up you because you
need Zach. You need Zach back at that center position.
I think this running game is fixing the cut loops.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I'm you get this passing game role and with the
play action like what we we we we're hoping for again,
go back to Justin Fields, which no way putting down
what Justin did. But when you got an average depth
of target barely over five yards on play action and
suddenly you know when Russ is in there, it's three
times that amount over fifteen yards, that says an awful
(39:10):
lot about how you're creating space for the running game.
And get Zooks man. You got to have Zach back
in there and be able to coordinate all that running
because the running attack is going to be huge when
we go to December football, as Tomlin always talks about
it and the fact you're going to need that when
you face the Ravens and the Bengals and the Browns
and so forth.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Well, imagine, I mean, I agree with you. I mean
I think he's he's grab a hold of that position.
He's not going to give it up if he's healthy,
and he makes a difference. There's a when you're standing
next to one on the line, and you, guys would
know that better than I do. A guy like him
that does his block, finishes his block and then goes
to the second level or finishes his block by pancaking
(39:54):
the guy on the ground right enough to steal something. No no, no, no, no,
on the ground on the ground, like you're not doing
anything today. When you see that you're standing next to
this guy, it's like, you gotta up your game. It's like, geez, yep,
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta keep up here. I mean,
that's what That's what brothers do, right. You see your
brother do something, you want to keep up with them.
(40:16):
And he has that, he has that quality. And and
again the other element, and I mentioned this in the
space before with you guys, is there's something about the
way Russell manages the line that they've really cut down
these free snap mistakes significantly. And this is a team
(40:38):
that now that it's almost like like you know, they're
they're trained to his voice. He's a he's a he's
an offensive whisperer of all the great things he does.
The negative plays are come down significantly as well when
he's on the field, plus the positives as well. But
it's just this incredible quality. So now now the question
(41:00):
is how far can we take this? Do anybody else?
Of course you could use a great, you know, extra
player in the trade, But when you see all these
players coming back, I tell you I don't feel like
giving up a lot when you've got something that you
feel like, gee, this is good enough, and quite frank,
we haven't seen the best of it yet. And so
(41:21):
that's why they pay Omar and Andy and all those
guys a lot of money to figure that stuff out.
I just don't feel right now that there's a pressing need.
I do feel that in certain positions, if you do
have an injury in this stretch, you could be you know,
in significant trouble. But at this point it's like, let's
(41:41):
see what happens, but don't overbid, please, I mean the
way they select people in the draft. I mean, don't
don't give those up, you.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Know, yeah, yeah, no, I completely agree. I think, you know,
if if there's value to be had, absolutely, and I
think what Omar's done and what he's shown in his
time already as GM is is that he will go
find the bargain. He is he is not afraid to
look in the clearance rack and uh, you know, and
(42:12):
and find you know, a good steal. I know, you know,
there's obviously been reports I don't know how true they
are about they were going after Christian Kirk down in
Jacksonville until he broke his collar bone as a potential
guy that they were looking to add. Adam Schefter talked
about that. But I think you're I think you're right.
I mean, you know, this team has so many guys
(42:34):
coming back online that it feels like free agency, and
it feels like like like like you've already made trades
right to get guys back on this roster. You know
that that we lost earlier in the season. You're right,
no better time than than now. But I think that
that could also lead you to kind of, you know,
pause a little bit before you make a rass decision,
(42:55):
because you're right, I mean, think about resources that you
could reac allocate elsewhere. You know, if you made a trade,
you know, are you missing the next Nick Herbig? You know,
are you missing potentially you know, the next player who
can add some value to your team. And you know,
(43:16):
I think that's where we kind of we kind of
sit there and we just think about it. Like, man,
you know, I want to keep especially the top half
of the draft, right, I want to keep my Day
one and my Day two picks. I think I think
anything after that. If you're in the fifth, sixth, seventh
round range, all right, I'm okay, I'm okay with taking
a flyer to get somebody in here now to help you.
(43:37):
But once you start talking above that, you start talking
about four and above. We've gotten some great value out
of the fourth round. You know, look at the guys
who are contributing from the third rounds of draft. Right,
So you don't want to give up some potential foundational pieces,
but you know, some lower pieces, you get some compensatory picks,
You got some other stuff going for you. Okay, now
(44:00):
you can play with house money a little bit, but
you know you don't want to work the future, and
the Steelers have always done a great job of building
from the draft and then using free agency and trades
to kind of accentuate those foundational nucleus pieces of a team. Uh,
you know, Alvarro, it has been awesome. As always, time
(44:22):
always flies when we're on when we're on the call
with you man, because we we we we get to
we get to talk football, not just Steelers, but we
really get to talk football.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And they always bring up some some some great new points.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
So we always appreciate the time as always enjoy Mexico City,
enjoy the peganya and uh and of course you know,
I know it's not a big deal, but you know,
if you do see a survey, so just give it
a wink for me. You don't have to drink it,
but just give it a wink for me, because I
do miss Monterey.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Yeah, and then we'll have the the Antags and the
and the crickets and and the key let the chase
them down. But no, listen, I'm.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Gonna was definitely one that was tough.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
I'm gonna monate and I'm gonna have to face the
disappointed Creake Wolfley and Max Stark's fan club that you
generated during the draft party. Visit. You made the money.
I'm gonna have to face that heat. It's gonna be me.
It's not gonna be you. It's gonna be me. Like,
where's Craig, Where's Max? What happened?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
I paid money? Them? Tell Max went up on the mountain?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Boat?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
We did go up on the mountain and you know
what we did. We went on the riverboat. Remember that
riverboat Wolf, Yes, we did, yes, riverboat.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
Nobody would nobody would believe. Max and I climbed the
mountain there.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
It impressive and.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Five we were at the top and with Captain Orlando
Roberts that's the skipper.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's right, that's right, tugboat Captain Larry Ogunjobi uh well, Alvarro,
enjoy my friend.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
We will.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We will miss you this weekend, but we know you're
you're going to have a blast you you and our
turo down there in Monterey.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
So we will.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
We will talk to you next week and of course
have a great call, sir.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
We'll be back with more here inside the locker room.
Ye pull up your belt.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
We're in for the stretch run. It's gonna be tough,
get ready, get ready for what's coming.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
It could be good. It could be good. It's gonna
be good. Yes, yeah, fingers crossed, it will be good.
It's a gauntlet though. You're absolutely right. We'll be back
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
There's lots of things that we can do better.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Just a couple of things are after bad way, you know,
in terms of yards after cats, yards after carry, we're
giving up too many of those in that regard, you know.
So those that's just one area. But there's different areas
that will identify and we'll look at and say, hey,
we can get better at, and the things that we're
good at, we want to make sure we continue to
stay good at those things.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And that, of course is Tarrell Austin, defensive coordinator for
the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he's talking about some of the
things they do good and some of the things that
they don't do so good. Part of it would be
you're talking yackyards both run and catch, and you're talking
about the fact that you've got to make sure the
pile falls backward. Not forward as it has over the
(01:17):
last couple of weeks, it seems to me. So Max,
I ask you, what's your impression of it, because certainly
you want to keep a lot of the things that
they're doing. They're doing some great stuff, been really good,
making adjustments at halftime, second half, coming out, shutting things down,
but you want to make sure that you're tackling the
chunk plays aren't killing you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh man, No, I think tackling is on full display
and needs to be on full display because we've seen way,
like you said, way too many instances of short to
negative plays turned to positive and great plays. And yeah,
it comes down to you know, hey, you know if
you watch Mode night FOOTBA last night, you saw them
(02:01):
trying to tackle Kareem Hunt, right. I mean it was
it was it was Jack Yards. It was it was
it was hit on contact then yards after said contact,
and it was just it was. It's something that the
league is struggling with. So it's not just a unique
Steelers problem, but you know, it's still something you need
(02:21):
to button up. I mean, here's the thing. You know,
the league is averaging per game at least two hundred
and forty six almost two hundred and forty seven yards
in a football game, so which is up by like
eleven yards on average, the average yards to gain four
(02:43):
point three yards per rush, which is one of the
highest averages over the last ten to fifteen years. It's like,
I think fourth highest average over the last twenty years
of the NFL has has been you know, tracking analytics
and everything.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I thought, I thought that was a very popping thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So the fact that we started out with that a
lot of me to use all this knowledge in the
old gordo bud and uh and kick out some numbers
for everyone.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Is the gordo doing there, bud.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, the gordo is yeah he fat yeah, because I
just realized that gordo in Spanish means fat oh.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, so the Gordon the melon, you know, it's all okay,
it's working good, obviously it is.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The milange is working.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
We get something early.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm just making words up right now at this point. Okay,
but but but but but I think that is something.
And the emphasis on that, right Wolf. I mean, you know,
Tyrone Tracy ran crazy all over us.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
He did, and I like you, I see what you're
doing there. You got that poet thing going.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, you see, you see, you know it's like listening
their rhythm. You you just gotta you just gotta submit
to it. Woll If you can't can't fight it, let
me ask you to fight it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It hurts you think you could have been a beat
nick back in the fifties, you know, you know, hitting
some some poetic lyrics on the checks, you know, back
when you're a young guy single and that sort of thing.
You know, you're wearing one of those those cats, you know,
like the poets would wear, and maybe you know, one
of those swatters with the high collar thing.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, and the cravat shirt as well. You know, it
was perfect little pompadoor pants.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I could have walked up, could have walked around as
a real thespian, Yeah, exactly. Shakespeare would have been would
have been excited. No, I did not have that type
of game. I didn't have or what the kids would say,
your your your mouthpiece game is weak.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah there you go, yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, but granted I have no lets, so no cap buddy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah exactly, no cap all toboggans.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Even even when they said that to me, and I
told this before. I can't help it though, when I
did that thing for the Hall of Honor and he
said no cap, and I said, I don't have a
cat to go. No, no, I know you don't have
a cap, but it's not it's no cap. Well, I said,
I don't have a cap.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
It's like who's on first?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's like, you know, it's like that Spider Man mean
when he just pointing back at each other.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You did it, you did it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's like, what's up Myers and rise Lets. We're finna
take a tour.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Finna take it to Oh my god, I'm like.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Where's the rest of the word, like finish that's there's
some gems in there, but we're finna take a tour.
It is my favorite.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
It's like, yeah exactly. I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was like, who got a hold of Urban Dictionary
before they before they tape that. Yeah, they said to
write that for you.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
The first time I heard that, though, Man, it sounds
like I am concussed.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
My We're finna take a tour?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is killing take a tour?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
This is just killing me with.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
This, dude.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Listen, listen, we're not mad at you, We're just mad
at the writer. That's all it is, your script exactly.
Oh my god, this is hilarious. Yeah yeah, oh boy,
once again it was again.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
We're trying. We're trying.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
We're trying to recapture youth here wolf. That's all we're
trying to do right now. You know, it's it's it's
just too far gone. This is where I cook. There
we go.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, you know, like you were in a kitchen.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know, that's the whole thing about it. I should
have been in a kitchen. What what's for that?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I don't. I don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You know, it's like they think, they think fact guys
want sunshine. But listen, I will take shelter. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm like, hey, hey, no, no, bring it on, bring
it on if you're willing to keep me dry.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Because oh my god, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So that Casey game was wet, but nothing compared to
that Green Bay game. Man, that game looked miserable.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Oh you're about Detroit green Bay? Yes, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
My gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I was like, man, I was like, I'm so glad
I got a new Steelers rain jacket, because if we
got to deal with any of that, you know, towards
the end of the season, I'm gonna be like, Nope,
I'm layering. I'm layering this year. Oh yeah, forget forget
the iron man stuff. I am seeking comfort. Man.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I remember being in a downpour one time in Tampa
Bay broadcasting and I crept into the tent with the
Steelers guys shooting on the sidelines. I'm down in the air,
not the the no, it was where the communications thing was,
you know, and they had a tent over it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh yeah, have the tent behind the benches.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So I got in there. It was kind of like
the camel that stuck a foot in and got the
head in, got the shoulder, you know, and then finally
wedged my way in and I just stood there during
the worst part of the storm as it was pouring.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Man, listen, that that's what Baltimore's in the last two years.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Oh yeah, that's right. Last year that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's like, oh my gosh, I'm like, man, I was
like that that's been the worst because it's also been
a night game and for whatever reason, a freak storm
cell comes through. That was like maybe kind of like
a twenty thirty and then by the time games is
like and it's gonna go all game.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And you're just like, oh, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm holding a metal microphone in my hand while it's
freezing and it's wet on top of that, so now
my hands cannot get warm for whatever I do. Oh man, Yeah, yeah,
I do not miss like weather issues that do arise
in open air stadiums.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I used to love that when I was a player.
I mean, the worst the weather, the better I liked it,
just because then other guys didn't like it, hated it,
and you could tell in their play they didn't want
to be there. You know, they're they're doing what they
got to do to just get by, but they didn't
want to go down in the dumps and you know,
land in the mud and stuff like that and then
have to scrape it off then get back up and
(09:30):
do it all over again. But I loved it. The
grungeurier and the worst the attraction, the better it was
for me. I just like that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh yeah, because I mean, because like you said, you
get the mall at that point.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, like all things.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Are equal, you know that that two hundred and eighty
five pound defensive tagle doesn't look as tough when he's
over there acting like he's trying to stand up on
a slipping slide, you know, exactly like a baby deer
on ice is like, yep, I'm coming for you, ba
coming for you.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It reduces, it evens out the athleticism between guys, you.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Oh yeah, well you can barely stand up, you know,
and you're slogging around in the mud. It just kind
of evens it out. So those great athletes that run
a you know, a four nine forty and they're you know,
they're three hundred pounds, you know, they're not nearest dynamic
in movement capable when you're when you're ankle deep in mud.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah no, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
When you got to do a high knees for your
for your play, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win.
And it's like it for us, it's like, well, you know,
I'm only picking my I'm only picking my foot up
to graze the grass blades up at one in front
of the other. Anyway, So this is this is no easier.
I'm like, you are a lot easier to move than
(10:51):
than an F two fifty super duty, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And I'm like, hey, let's let's bring it on. Let's
bring it I hope, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And I got my wish against the Miami Dolphins was
like seven or whatever came down and Roe.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Four was the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Seven was the one where the storm came through like
late in the year, like around Thanksgiving, is right, And
and that was the game where where Mitch Burger lawn
darted it in the into the sod. Oh yeah up
here you're talking about, yeah, up up in Pittsburgh. So yeah,
now we we And that was another one. We always
seemed to have bad weather when we played the Dolphins.
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It was never like a clear day.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I like that, you know, because guess I guess it
was not upset about that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
This guy we played them at three Rivers one time
with we had nothing to lose. I mean, there's we
weren't going anywhere. It was the end of the season
they had, you know, they weren't going anywhere. And the
dude I was playing was he had those those great sweats,
you know, you know how you got the the the
leggings that that the like yoga and stuff like that.
(11:57):
The yoga pants the guys were wearing. This guy was
wearing those baggy you know, the grays, the thick gray sweatpants.
He's got his football pants over the top of him.
He's got a hoodie with the hood hanging out the back,
which might be fashionable now, but it wasn't then.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, he's got he's got gardening gloves on because I
guess I guess they didn't bring h winter winter gloves
for the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
He just had this look on him every.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Snap was like, let's just get this play over, get
the game over, and get back on the plane and
go back to Miami because I'm freezing.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
That's exactly what he looked like every play.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's like one of those games where the guy
gets mad when the when the guy goes out of
bound and stops the clock. Yeah, but you're you're like
on Devon's like, come on, man, if you got to
die for the first down, die for the first down
and bounds, geez, stop angling out.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, to take it back to the original thing that
we brought about with with Terrell Austin, he's talking about again,
the tackling about doing the doing the good things. What
would you say were the high points of the defense.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Thus far Oh got pressure many pressure. Pressure was king
I mean to and to get it from all sides, right,
I mean you already knew what you know when when
TJ was unchecked, he was he was unhinged on opposing quarterbacks.
But I love the interior pass rush right Cam Larry
(13:27):
Oh on the inside, and even little flashes of young
Keanu Benton in there. And then of course heighsmith Man
High Smith just is the maestro. Her Big was another one.
They just provided so much pressure made it tough on
everyone to pass. I mean, you look at where Kirk
Cousin was week one when we faced him versus where
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he's at now.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I'm glad we got him at the beginning. A but
B they just also.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Goes to show you how well the pass rush was
hitting home and affecting the quarterback like ment, I just
throw it quick, you know, But no, I gotta throw
quick because these guys in my face, so.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You know what I'm saying, Like you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They can't really think he's going to react because the
pass rush is so consistent with the Steelers highlight is
that and secondary guys catching balls, right, you know all
the interceptions we had in the first half of the season.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, the guy one of the guys that I
think is making such a huge difference in the first half.
Obviously Action Jackson, Deontay Yeah, and his interceptions. But the
fact is, Deshaun Elliott, this dude is fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I just had him on tape last night watching again,
and you know, you watch him and the stuff that
he does so so suddenly, whether he's coming from off
you know, in the third level and then blitz in
a gap, or whether he creeps up and he gets
himself in the box and works there. This guy can
really bring a hit and bring a hit hard, heavy
(14:56):
and take a guy down. I mean, there's just I
got a out of respect for his game. I appreciate
what I've seen thus far with him.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
So you mean deceleration Trauma.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Said, you got the guy that's the man.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
There he is? Yeah, No, he he is. He he is.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He's like you know, I talked about missiles and dynamite.
He is, he is a walking stick of dynamite.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And and and I mean then the most positive of ways,
like if there's an opportunity to blow it up. He's
going to blow it up. He's gonna wedge himself like
a rock. And of mind, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's going to he's gonna bring the he's going
to bring the pain. And and that's what you love.
And such a short tackler on top of it. I
thought you pointed it out excellently, like when he hits,
he sticks yes, and and and that that that that's
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one of those tremendous traits. And when you think about,
you know, the defense, who's the thumpers, right, well, you
look no further than of course you and I know him,
know him as Aaron Jones, blah blah blah blah. No,
you got Deshaun Elliott, Who's who's sticking down? And then
Landon Roberts. I was I was trying to think of
(16:06):
his nickname twenty three and me got caught up at it.
But you know, yeah, those are the those are the thumpers.
You know, when they hit, they cause issues. And I've
just I've loved the way that the rest of the
team has kind of come up with it with that
same type of identity that if you're going to go
up and make a play, like young Beanie Bishop right
on the edge is when they're trying to throw those
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now screens.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
He had a couple of really good ones.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Dante's a really a really aggressive tackler as well. You know,
and look at look what it has done to Joey Porter Jr.
You know, JPJ JPJ. I mean we remember a year
ago right where it was like he's a dB, he's
trying to cut, block, tackle, he's not rapping, and he
missed a remember he missed a couple of those tackles
against the Rams, yep, against like Nikula, and we're like,
(16:53):
oh man, but you know, and but he did some
good covers. He was like, man, he's got he's got
to learn how to tackle. He's learned how to tackle guys,
He's learned how to tackle. Heared that secondary has been really, really,
really solid at tackling for the most part. Now, we
had a little bit of a regression against the Giants.
I think a couple of shoulder charge tackles where they
thought the guy was gonna go down.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
He didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
A couple of couple like bad angles. But you know,
when you have Elliott and Landon, you know, do I'm
gonna go with double ease there to describe it that
they may they make it look easy. Now the now
the flip side of that is, if you're a walking
stick of dynamite, there's no precision, so you might you
might catch him friendly fire from your teammates. Uh right,
(17:37):
And they've definitely caused a couple of those that Tyron
Tracy played the forty five yard are right. That was
one where guys ran into each other, you know, taking
a bad angle, and that's what led to even further.
And so because they missed, but then they missed, it
took one of their own out that was in pursuit.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, it was also that happened with Breech Hall. You
remember the week before, Yes, you know, you got one guy.
It was like bowling for dollars. It was an eight
ten split. One guy took out two, you know, and
they all went out. All right, we got to go
to break because we have the great Albaro Martine is
up next, and of course you want to make sure
to get your Spanish on because this guy brings it
each and every week. We'll be back with more here
(18:15):
in the locker room. Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
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Now here's Craig wolf Lee and Max.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Starks neighbor's Markala for Joey Porton.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
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Speaker 3 (19:30):
La trifecta again.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Momento massive.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Persona is domosa key. I don't even know what I'm
saying right now.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I just I just completely just started using a couple
of Spanish words.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
But no, it is.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It is the one, the only Alvaro Martin who inspires
me to go do my duo lingo because I always
forget to do it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Alvaro, pleasure to see you. But how are we? I
do know it this week? Como st I do that?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
It sty moving in Max and Craig, I'm actually calling
you from Mexico City, which remember the altitude is fifty
percent higher than Denvers.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
When you get out of the plane, you take your
first walk steps out and you kind of walk normally.
At the end of that little walk by the jetway,
you're like oh oh, oh, oh oh, this is different.
And then the other interesting effect is whenever you bend down,
say your tire, your laces, whenever you actually get on
your knees or get down is when you actually feel
the impact of the most. So I don't know how
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football players come here and play, but apparently all arrows
are pointing to the Steelers. Maybe if the league wants
it to be to be like that, the Steeers may
actually be playing here next season. That would be That
would be unbelievable. That would be unbelievable. And then this Sunday,
we're going to the watch party in a city you
both know well, Monterey, Mexico. And so I'm on my
(20:59):
Mexico dour and he guys bought a meager first class.
When I was walking over the coach and I think
he's gonna be my opening act.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
There we go and there was no Keith Richards there.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Huh No, no Keith. You know Keith. You know Keith.
Keith has to go to a clinic and I cleansed
his blood every single morning.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know, I got to tell you something of in Detroit.
You remember the halftime Detroit Max, you know who? Yeah,
that was the stones, the stones. So there I am.
I'm down there. I'm close enough to the stage. I
can see that that Keith Richards is like a marionette puppet.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I think.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I think he died years ago, and they just kind.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Of move him around, you know, they get like a
marionette puppet there, man, I mean, they guy.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
The guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
You can still play the guitar. He kind of tools
his guitar a little oddly, so the sounds a little off,
but in a wonderful way. And you know, I just
think that you keeps them going.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
It was like football, no doubt about it, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I mean, the guy has he's got these open tunings,
which are like all strings are tuned to one cord.
It's very interesting in what he does with his slide
work and so for But anyhow, regardless, that's for another time.
So tell us about the fact that you went down
to call an NBA game.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yeah? You know, it's a short commute six and a
half hours each way, you know, and so the only
thing you can the only thing you can come, you know,
kind of conclude from this is somebody really really likes
me to say no, no, you've got to be here.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
The fact of the matter is Amazon, as you know,
is moving into the NBA next year in the States,
but they actually moved into Mexico last season, and so
they have a number of games, a limited number of games.
And uh, they inaugurated this set, beautiful set here in
Mexico City, and they wanted everybody on board. So I
may be calling future games, but remotely, and then I'll
(22:55):
come here every now and then as the football season allows.
When they actually wanted to launch on the twenty eighth,
which is that Monday night against the Giants, I told her, listen,
I made that commitment to the Steelers. I can't bail out.
They were about to call mister Rudy. I mean they
were like, no, no, you gotta be here. You got
to Beer said no, guys, it doesn't work that way.
I signed the contract. I'm going on Monday. The actor shot.
(23:19):
But it's a fun group and I think Amazon, as
you saw on Thursday night, you know, Thursday Night, you
may not be the most attractive slate of games. Every
now and then you do get a great one. But
the way they approach the game, particularly on the analytics
and these alternative broadcasts. I think that's really interesting. And
if you like football, you kind of stick on that channel.
(23:39):
You hear the announcers, but you're not getting the TV
view of the game. You're looking at the kind of
the coaches view of the game. And it's a lot
of fun to watch that stuff. So I hope they
do the same for basketball.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That would be really cool. And yeah, it is. It
is fun to see it from different perfectives. You know,
it's funny.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I was.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I was actually talking with uh Mario Zeka and uh,
you know, he he he does that kind of stuff.
He's he's elite lead lead crew and and and for
uh for Fox and they and he kind of talked about,
like from the baseball perspective, like all of these new
different views and alternative views that you need to have,
(24:19):
right to bring the game a little bit closer and
to create different different opportunities, right with viewing as far
as how you want to see it. I mean, and
we already see those multiple broadcast fronts, you know, like
you said, Amazon does it, but also Monday Night Football
on the ESPN side, right, you have all these alternative
versions of of the game to watch, and you know,
(24:42):
you go in there and you know in the ESPN
Plus has like, oh you just want to watch the
skycam footage, you know, from from one perspective, you can
do that now. So I mean the way that we
consume sports is definitely rapidly changing it and I think
it'd be no different than you know, for what we
get with with basketball. Well because because how far have
you heard of like cosm Yes, uh yeah, So I
(25:07):
mean just like those type of perspectives.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I mean, so Wolf for like.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Cosm is is this interactive experience.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Where you go to these venues.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And you wear the VR headsets and they have cameras
in certain you know, certain stadiums and certain nights or
certain games that they can do it where you put
these virtual headsts on. It's like you're standing on the side.
So it's like it's like where we were we'd be
for like the sidelines, Like they give you these crazy
views that make you feel like you're fully immersed in
the environment.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
They have two locations in the US. I think it's
LA and maybe Dallas. They're going to start roaming out
more in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Atlanta has one online.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now, to which Atlanta in l A and there. The
cameras are very special because they're kind of three sixty
and they are all placed at field or court level,
so it looks like you're sitting on the front row literally.
A game you're watching and they go pan to the
end zone. There's a camera at the end zone and
you're watching the guys like they're literally ten yards away
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from you, and it's protected on a screen that kind
of surrounds you, and it is. It is an incredible experience.
I'm sure that a ways to shrink it and ship
it so they can have one of these in every city,
but it's incredible. Now, let me give you a little
story about how how the world's changing. Right. You know,
we broadcast our games on digital audio. It's heard around
(26:29):
the world. We have a radio partner in Mexico with
twenty stations in twenty major cities Seas for FM stations,
so it's a powerhouse. And then we have the app. Right,
and so we're doing a game I don't know a
year or two ago and the head of digital that
you know very well comes up to us and say,
what did you guys say in the bosk? And I
can't remember if the Steiers had won or lost. This
(26:50):
is mid season, and I can't remember what it was.
What was memorable about that? I said, we would just
give you the kind of the six to seven minute
wrap up.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
What did you say said?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I don't remember, but it was nothing that sticked to
my mind. Can't remember when we won or lost. That
video on x which is Twitter, garnered a million views
that seven minute video of a game that already had
been decided and every could access to score. I still
don't remember who we said. I can tell you it
wasn't memorable. There's a reason why people wanted to find
(27:22):
out or share it unbeknownst to any of us. We
just don't know why. Now here's the realization, Greg and Max.
You know right now, for some of those moments, you
get more viewers than you had watching the game itself
for a factor of twenty. And so when you look
(27:42):
at a game four hour broadcast, it's the highlights that
generate the most people watching any second of that piece
of content. And so now, and I'm hearing you. And
if there's a guy that I worked with last night
who did the first game, I did the second game
NBA game last night, it's an old friend of mine,
his name is Kik, and I is from Mexico, and
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Keick is hyked up. And every play, even a standard
three pointer, is kind of like a not quite a
buzzer beater, but really a tremendous play, and some people
don't like that. And I just sat there and listened,
and I realized Keek has adapted to the new world,
because Kek knows that they can clip any play that
(28:24):
he called, and it's just perfect to draw engagement and
to draw views. And so he now caused the game
not for the game, but for the highlight. And then
there's a hidened sense of the highlight. If you get
a play like that, or a moment like that, it's
like everybody's eyes go wide. You look at your analysts,
(28:47):
and everybody looks at each other and goes, we got
we gotta do this. And so the job of the
play by play is to get the moment and get
the most of the moment. And then the analyst, because
the editor, remember as soon as the excitement dies down,
is ready to cut, the analyst has to make sure
that what they say makes the edit go oh, hold on,
(29:08):
keep that in there, Oh hold on, hold on, keep
that in Okay, cut here, and now that becomes the
most profitable and revenue raising part of a broadcast. It's
it's kind of wild. It's wild, but that's where the
this is going.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So let me let me put into my terms. Okay again,
So when Saquon Barklay does the triple Lindy with a
reverse half split somersault, whatever it was that he did,
you know, with the rear view mirror. Uh, the fact
is that that would make the highlights, right, and he
would go that crap crazy on it.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I'm not saying they're going to make more money off
that highlight than they did of the game, because the
NFL has that huge audience still, but increasingly, particularly for
games are not, you know, sort of high profile, you'd
be surprised how the highlight and and what the money
they make off the highlight becomes an important part of
the game. So you have to have the game so
(30:04):
you can extract these moments, right, And it's crazy, it's crazy.
And so again the NFL is a little in newer
to that because they have such a big audience to
start with that they generate just by sitting there on
the couch. They generate all the sales that the NFL has.
But these moments are incredible. And I don't know if
you saw there was a video of the bench reacting
to the play. You can't even see the reverse somersault
(30:27):
that he did, but you see the Philahelphia Eagles bench react.
That went for viral millions. And so that's the way
it works. Now, it's crazy as the audience is fragmented,
that's the way it goes. So we got to reach
everybody in every way possible. Some things that they may
need from us could be something that you Craig or
(30:47):
you Max myself are simply unable to provide. So let's
bring somebody else to provide that. And so we'll see
where it all goes. But I think it's going that
way that the audience is fragmenting and you got a
fish with a fish are period.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now here's a question for you of VRO because like
you said, uh, you know, you have the secondary screen
viewing highlight worthy where the source comes from environment and
media consumption. You know, do you think there is going
to be a trickle down where you start to see
(31:21):
players trying to create those environments so that that does
happen for more attention for themselves. I mean, I could
see how that in certain sports that could happen.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Well, I can tell you right away that and the
NBA Raymond Green is involved in some interesting play, not
one of the disciplinary or game girl issues, just a
big play in the playoffs, and of course he's duty
bound and contract bound to go after the game and
face the press. So they asked him about that. He goes, no,
that was a really interesting play, and I want you
(31:52):
to tune into my podcast tonight when I'm going to
you know, talk about that play in detail. So I
hope you can join in the podcast to night. He
just yoh, no, yeah, he privatized information that should be
public and said, I don't know, I'm gonna make money
off that because I was there and you want to
hear my view. I think that's going to happen increasingly
where the player will withhold information or just keep you
(32:13):
really not the script answer and say, you know what
for that answer, listen to my podcast.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah that's wild, that's wild. Well, hey, listen listen.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
We're in an ever consuming personal branding era with professional sports,
so it is no surprise there would you hear that
type of stuff. I mean, but the good thing is
you still got sources, like you know, the old cronies
over here that are that are gotting away on the airwaves,
Wolf and I and of course having you on here.
(32:45):
You know, we still have the traditional way of doing
it as well. But you're right, I mean, the player empowerment,
the player, you know, driven media aspect of it is
definitely a bigger part than it was ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I don't think there's anything obsolete. I don't think you
guys right at the top of the team, you've got
you know, people in the team, your privilege that you
get to see things and understand things because you've played
and you've been doing what you're doing for so many years.
I don't think you're going and no one's going away.
It's it's basically how information is going to be processed
(33:18):
and who's going to be the one saying things that
will actually get the market's attention. It's a marketplace of ideas,
and so you know, you compete every day, and that
happened when you first started doing anything, and it will
continue until you retire. There's always a natural sense of competition.
Let me tell you something else I heard. This is
this is incredible. I heard apparently the NBA now is
(33:39):
offering in Spanish and Portuguese artificial intelligence calls of games.
Say what artificial intelligence calls of games in those.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Languages, that's artificial intelligence.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
So what they do, what they do and the technology does,
is they grab the call of the English announcers and
then they come up with voices that sound like the
Englis announcers but are speaking Portuguese and Spanish. Now it's
a little clunky. It's a little clunky, and they can
never get excited. And as you know from the calls,
(34:17):
you know, for Spanish and Portuguese audiences, emotion matters. And
so when you simply take the English broadcast, there's something missing.
It's like a steak without any salt. You're put a
little salt on it, but there's no salt around on
the table.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry. I'll finish your thoughts there.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Here's the point. But technology is advancing up so that
it's almost simultaneous. So's it takes the English call of
that play, turns around the probably qudifies the English translated
to Spanish, and then generates a voice in Spanish that
reads that roughly the same voice as the original English announcers,
but only in flawless Spanish and Portuguese. Again, the translation
(34:59):
could be clunky at times. I think they're going to
fix that. It's it's the emotion and cultural part that
I think is missing completely.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well, then what I need from you is your ability
to be able to do myron. Cope, that would be great,
you'd be awesome right in Spanish.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Well, I think they're gonna I think what they're going
to do is take all of Myron's available audio and
study it and come up with with, you know, a
kind of a digital Myron. I think that's coming.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
How do you say YOI in Spanish?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
YOI?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, that's answer.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah in Spanish is as close to yeens as has
it has to be period. I mean, there's no there's
no substitute. Really, it's like learn yeen's that's all.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh my gosh, this is this is hilarious because anyway,
guys expecting some crazy, some crazy answers.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
There's something pivotal happening later on today, at the end
of the day today and now it's not the presidential election,
of course, it's the trade deadline, right, and it's going
to be interesting to see when you look at Pittsburgh,
they have so many players that potentially, first of all,
are coming back and potentially could be coming back, that
all of a sudden, this team that's already shown resiliency
(36:24):
and death has more pieces to play. It's almost like
you're gaining Christmas gifts over a period of weeks. Oh
we get this gift this guy coming back. Oh we're
going to pluck this player over here. Oh what can
we do with this returning player? And it's just a
great place to be all the way. If we're really
really lucky, imagine having co Holcam back, Although that may
(36:46):
be a bridge too far, but let's imagine that he's
already rehaving let's see where he goes be having all
these players coming back, and I just I just I
think it's a fascinating moment. Of course, it's the toughest
part of the season, the Baton Death March. We're about
the face And if anybody Washington was going to be
a push over, well you know that's the way the
(37:06):
NFL works, too bad. So there's nothing easy from now on.
It could go sideways, or it could keep climbing. But
I just find that the amount of people coming back
and the cohesion of the team, particularly an offense no
matter what the defense they face, will be fascinating, fascinating
(37:26):
to see. I think that's the story of the second
half of the season. Where's the ceiling of this offense
with a quarterback that really started playing with them in
earnest mid season, and how far can they go? And
how much can they click? And how varied can they be?
And how can the game plans evolve and how can
they be multiple? I mean all those questions. We know
(37:48):
that they can, but will we see that in front
of us in this tough stretch through the end of
the year. It's an exciting time and literally for me,
it's like Christmas with all these great gifts up being
kind of to you one day. It's like they're sprinkled
you along the way. Well, this one's coming back this week,
and this guy's coming back to following weekend, that one
maybe coming back in two weeks time. And one of
(38:10):
the guys that I really want to see come back,
and he's not one of those top names you think
about it is mont Adams. I think mont Adams gives
this team a death and a quality of play, which
of all people that are hurt, and there are some
good players hurt. I tell you, I think he needs
to get back there. I sleep a lot better knowing
(38:31):
that he's back and he's back doing his thing.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Okay, I'll see your mon Adams, which I agree, I
like him, but I also let me let me put
it this, Zach Fraser, I'll one up you because you
need Zach. You need Zach back at that center position.
I think this running game is fixing the cut loops.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I'm you get this passing game role and with the
play action like what we we we we're hoping for again,
go back to Justin Fields, which no way putting down
what Justin did. But when you got an average depth
of target barely over five yards on play action and
suddenly you know when Russ is in there, it's three
times that amount over fifteen yards, that says an awful
(39:10):
lot about how you're creating space for the running game.
And get Zooks man. You got to have Zach back
in there and be able to coordinate all that running
because the running attack is going to be huge when
we go to December football, as Tomlin always talks about
it and the fact you're going to need that when
you face the Ravens and the Bengals and the Browns
and so forth.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Well, imagine, I mean, I agree with you. I mean
I think he's he's grab a hold of that position.
He's not going to give it up if he's healthy,
and he makes a difference. There's a when you're standing
next to one on the line, and you, guys would
know that better than I do. A guy like him
that does his block, finishes his block and then goes
to the second level or finishes his block by pancaking
(39:54):
the guy on the ground right enough to steal something. No no, no, no, no,
on the ground on the ground, like you're not doing
anything today. When you see that you're standing next to
this guy, it's like, you gotta up your game. It's like, geez, yep,
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta keep up here. I mean,
that's what That's what brothers do, right. You see your
brother do something, you want to keep up with them.
(40:16):
And he has that, he has that quality. And and
again the other element, and I mentioned this in the
space before with you guys, is there's something about the
way Russell manages the line that they've really cut down
these free snap mistakes significantly. And this is a team
(40:38):
that now that it's almost like like you know, they're
they're trained to his voice. He's a he's a he's
an offensive whisperer of all the great things he does.
The negative plays are come down significantly as well when
he's on the field, plus the positives as well. But
it's just this incredible quality. So now now the question
(41:00):
is how far can we take this? Do anybody else?
Of course you could use a great, you know, extra
player in the trade, But when you see all these
players coming back, I tell you I don't feel like
giving up a lot when you've got something that you
feel like, gee, this is good enough, and quite frank,
we haven't seen the best of it yet. And so
(41:21):
that's why they pay Omar and Andy and all those
guys a lot of money to figure that stuff out.
I just don't feel right now that there's a pressing need.
I do feel that in certain positions, if you do
have an injury in this stretch, you could be you know,
in significant trouble. But at this point it's like, let's
(41:41):
see what happens, but don't overbid, please, I mean the
way they select people in the draft. I mean, don't
don't give those up, you.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Know, yeah, yeah, no, I completely agree. I think, you know,
if if there's value to be had, absolutely, and I
think what Omar's done and what he's shown in his
time already as GM is is that he will go
find the bargain. He is he is not afraid to
look in the clearance rack and uh, you know, and
(42:12):
and find you know, a good steal. I know, you know,
there's obviously been reports I don't know how true they
are about they were going after Christian Kirk down in
Jacksonville until he broke his collar bone as a potential
guy that they were looking to add. Adam Schefter talked
about that. But I think you're I think you're right.
I mean, you know, this team has so many guys
(42:34):
coming back online that it feels like free agency, and
it feels like like like like you've already made trades
right to get guys back on this roster. You know
that that we lost earlier in the season. You're right,
no better time than than now. But I think that
that could also lead you to kind of, you know,
pause a little bit before you make a rass decision,
(42:55):
because you're right, I mean, think about resources that you
could reac allocate elsewhere. You know, if you made a trade,
you know, are you missing the next Nick Herbig? You know,
are you missing potentially you know, the next player who
can add some value to your team. And you know,
(43:16):
I think that's where we kind of we kind of
sit there and we just think about it. Like, man,
you know, I want to keep especially the top half
of the draft, right, I want to keep my Day
one and my Day two picks. I think I think
anything after that. If you're in the fifth, sixth, seventh
round range, all right, I'm okay, I'm okay with taking
a flyer to get somebody in here now to help you.
(43:37):
But once you start talking above that, you start talking
about four and above. We've gotten some great value out
of the fourth round. You know, look at the guys
who are contributing from the third rounds of draft. Right,
So you don't want to give up some potential foundational pieces,
but you know, some lower pieces, you get some compensatory picks,
You got some other stuff going for you. Okay, now
(44:00):
you can play with house money a little bit, but
you know you don't want to work the future, and
the Steelers have always done a great job of building
from the draft and then using free agency and trades
to kind of accentuate those foundational nucleus pieces of a team. Uh,
you know, Alvarro, it has been awesome. As always, time
(44:22):
always flies when we're on when we're on the call
with you man, because we we we we get to
we get to talk football, not just Steelers, but we
really get to talk football.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And they always bring up some some some great new points.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
So we always appreciate the time as always enjoy Mexico City,
enjoy the peganya and uh and of course you know,
I know it's not a big deal, but you know,
if you do see a survey, so just give it
a wink for me. You don't have to drink it,
but just give it a wink for me, because I
do miss Monterey.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Yeah, and then we'll have the the Antags and the
and the crickets and and the key let the chase
them down. But no, listen, I'm.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Gonna was definitely one that was tough.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
I'm gonna monate and I'm gonna have to face the
disappointed Creake Wolfley and Max Stark's fan club that you
generated during the draft party. Visit. You made the money.
I'm gonna have to face that heat. It's gonna be me.
It's not gonna be you. It's gonna be me. Like,
where's Craig, Where's Max? What happened?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
I paid money? Them? Tell Max went up on the mountain?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Boat?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
We did go up on the mountain and you know
what we did. We went on the riverboat. Remember that
riverboat Wolf, Yes, we did, yes, riverboat.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
It was amazing.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
Nobody would nobody would believe. Max and I climbed the
mountain there.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
It impressive and.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Five we were at the top and with Captain Orlando
Roberts that's the skipper.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's right, that's right, tugboat Captain Larry Ogunjobi uh well, Alvarro,
enjoy my friend.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
We will.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We will miss you this weekend, but we know you're
you're going to have a blast you you and our
turo down there in Monterey.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
So we will.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
We will talk to you next week and of course
have a great call, sir.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
We'll be back with more here inside the locker room.
Ye pull up your belt.
Speaker 7 (46:15):
We're in for the stretch run. It's gonna be tough,
get ready, get ready for what's coming.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
It could be good. It could be good. It's gonna
be good. Yes, yeah, fingers crossed, it will be good.
It's a gauntlet though. You're absolutely right. We'll be back
with more here inside the locker room after these commercial
messages on the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
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Speaker 4 (47:14):
All right, it's time for the word of the day,
and the word of the day is ps A. No,
it's not your prostate exam.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
No.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
We'll be back
Speaker 4 (47:37):
After this because on account of we overran the last one,
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