January 29, 2025 • 45 mins
Max and Wolf talk the future of Russell Wilson as some of his former coaches reunite in Las Vegas. They also laugh and tell jokes about the football movie The Little Giants.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Play action pass rolling out to the left, Wilson trying
to get to the edge. Wilson dives one, two step
and three is in for six touchdown.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Pittsburgh Steelers putting the band back together.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Forget it, no way, We're on a mission from God.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
You know, you think about it.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
You got Pete Carroll going to Vegas right taking over
the Raiders head coaching job.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Max.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Now you got also Darryl Bevill, who was the offensive
coordinator for Pete Carroll, and of course Russell Wilson. He's
interviewed with the Raiders and that looks like they could
be That could be copea seedic too, okay with Bevill
as a OHC. Wilson made what five Pro Bowls? Won
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a Super Bowl together? I don't know, you know, he
led the league in passer rating in twenty fifteen, led
the league in passing TD's in twenty seventeen, I say
to you, my friend, is the band getting back together
Blues Brothers style, and is Russ Wilson heading West?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So you're saying Russ is going back to another AFC
West team, all right, telling.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Just wondering, just wondering.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, Now, I mean, hey, it's a distinct possibility. Obviously
he still has the conversation that he's having with the
Steelers about contracts.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
But you know, you wonder is.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That a potential destination because like you said, all signs
point to that, and you know, I feel like the
song they should have been playing also should have been
the Boys are back in town?
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Right, true?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
True, yeah, But I mean but it does make for
an interesting things as as we you know, we still
have you know, a little over a month before free
agency starts, and you know, it'll be interesting to see
how those contract talks either evolve or devolve in the process,
right you know. That's that That's that's the crazy part
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about it. But it does make for intriguing commentary. You
would think points would be at that point. But also
there was a reason why Pete Carroll, you know, did
not pursue further and before he left Seattle, you know,
they were willing to trade Russell to Denver. So very
interesting and very proposing.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Well what's kind of interesting right now? You got what
you got a hippie gardner Minshew, and you got who
was the other quarterback for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I can't think of his name.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Right off the top of my fondnell.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Oh yeah, Aidan O'Connell.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
All right, So if I'm Pete Carroll, I mean job
one for him has also got to be in landing
a quarterback, and it seems like it would be a
good thing to reach out to Russell because you bring
Russell in and then you draft a you know, a
young guy. Again, this could be you know, playing out
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a little bit, and like it was, we thought it
might last year, but you know, I don't know, the
whole thing just kind of got kaibashed a little bit
in that sense. But you know, Russell Wilson still got
enough to maybe warrant recombining with you know the band
members there.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Think it definitely is intriguing. And like you said, I
mean for a team that's looking to rebuild and you know,
there's so many holes are on the Raiders, and this
is a team which is crazy enough to say that
I actually saw just as much as you know I
did the Ravens because we played the Ravens three times.
I called three Raiders games out there this season, and so,
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you know, looking at the squad, I mean, there are pieces,
but there's a lot more pieces.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Obviously you need to build around them.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
And if you can take quarterback off the table with
what is that the number five pick, I believe overall,
then you could possibly trade that resource and try and
get some more so you can try and fill more
of those holes for the Raiders, at least in the
in the short term.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
So I don't mind that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And but I think also ultimately come down to you know,
Pete Carroll's comfortability with Russ coming back to him, and
then of course Tom Brady, who has a big influences.
Pete talked about in his opening press conference about having
a mind like Tom Brady there, you know, to pick
his brain because he's a unique human being. So I mean,
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there's a lot of good things in there that could
lead to some intriguing conversations moving forward.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
But I like the idea Wolf, Okay, I see you, Well,
I'm not sure I liked the idea. I just you know,
it's just kind of coming together and it but it's intriguing.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It is intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
We don't have to like it, but you know it
leads to good come that's good journalism.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Sir, Right, what's journalism exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's this thing with words on paper, this ancient device.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
So don't worry about.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
It because you know why. You gotta get out of
your way. That's the thing about it. You got you gotta.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Get absolutely cannot stand in our own way with that.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Just from max for three seconds.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yeah, Okay, that's it. That's it, that's it, that's it,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Perfect.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
But yeah, that's what we need. Little boys are back
in town.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
We would have rocked on with the rest of it.
But if, of course we can't, we can't afford to.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah yeah, no, no, no, those those fcc fins are
just like FedEx envelopes to football players.
Speaker 9 (06:08):
Oh yeah, that would be bad, kid, You not once
a year. We have to do this, you know. iHeart
compliance training seminar thing online.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You know.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
It takes like thirty forty minutes like that, nothing crazy.
I just did it this morning before I came into work.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh really.
Speaker 9 (06:22):
One of the lesson bullet point things was about getting
fined by the FCC and how those are easily five
and six figure fines.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I was like, yeah, all.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Right, okay, okay, we got to keep that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's why we get three point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
There you go, and you know it. You got to
buy the board.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Three point seven seconds, all right, four and a half seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
And then somebody's fine, maybe six seconds.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
All it's all funny games until somebody loses their wallet,
you know, Max, I.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Got to push the buttons in here to go to break.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Exactly, bring them back.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
That guy we need.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That guy comes out like like the comedic like stage hook.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
They just yanke wess out.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That's all folks.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, or they just shut or they just shut the
lights off and then they come back on and it's
like he's disappeared.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
But yeah, I think it's very intriguing. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Keep going think about this because it will also make
the decision here so much easier. All Right, you're gonna
go with Justin Fields, you're gonna go with the young legs,
You're gonna go with a guy that It would have
been interesting now in retrospect, of course everything in rear
view mirror is is totally different, right, But to look
and see what he might have accomplished and and how
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far he might have grown into the Arthur Smith system.
You know, hey, look I was all on board about
Russ when you know, taking over and and you know
he there was an initial reaction that really kind of
kickstarted the season and on their way to knocking down
ten wins or you know how many?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
You got?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Six of his wins? Yes, right, yeah, do the math?
Dog gone it all? I can't even remember, but yeah,
it's yeah, six victories. Yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So the fact is, you know, you look at that
and you think, you know, what would have happened now
in retrospect, it's kind of interesting. If you ask me,
and I'm asking you, okay, put your burger down.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Would you. It's not a burger, You're killing me. It
was it was a glazed Donutnot what a thing of
beauty that is. I know, it was wonderful. It was
wonderful donut Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Oh yeah, you know that's how you got a roll.
You know, you can't do victory, do the victory on Monday,
So you got wonderful Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Okay, Yeah, it's called the Lake gratification.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You know, well, if we have the sacrifice, I was here,
but I got you for our show, we will never
not do donuts.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah you're you're teasing me. You're just teasing me.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I apologize, but
but you do have a fridge in there that does
have wondrous things in it, So maybe there's something wondrous
in there.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I'm just I'm just saying I think that they're stone
cold out. I checked it every day. You already checked.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know it, all right? So so yeah, so let's
get back to the question. The question again, it was
a question.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
The question was all about whether or not Russ going
West was part of putting the Blues Brothers band back
together back together.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah, no way, We're on a mission from God. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So do you now?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
The interesting thing is I forgot about you know, uh,
Pete Carroll, you know, trading Russ Wilson right towards the
end there.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, it was part of it.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, that was part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And you know, obviously that didn't work well for Pete
because he got fired about about you know, was it
two years after that? And then, of course now you
have Mike McDonald there as the head coach.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Pete sat out a year.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Things didn't work out when Sean Payton came to Denver,
which allowed us an opportunity to get Russ. Now Pete
Carroll has joined the AFC West ranks to go head
to head with other newer coaches that are not named
Andy Reid. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Andy Reid has seen.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine different
head coaches in the AFC West in the last four years.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Wow, that's almost Cleveland dish, you know.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah, it is. It is Cleveland dish.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And like you said, you know, trying to figure out
who the X factor is. And when you're talking about
Andy Reid, you know we've seen what a new head
coach can do because you look at Nathaniel Hackett was gone,
Brendan Staley and Antonio Pierce right, all three first time
head coaches that went out to the AFC West all gone,
and now look at it could potent it now is
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Pete Carroll won a Super Bowl, Sean Payton won a
Super Bowl. John Harbaugh been to a couple of Super Bowls.
That's going up against Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs.
Just think about that idea right there, that they had
to go bring Super Bowl caliber winning coaches to try
and defeat Andy Reid. I don't know of another division
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that has that much, you know, a coaching experience, you know,
from the head coaching.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Position out that way.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I think that's I think that's pretty crazy right there.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
You know, absolutely, that is nuts, you know, But at
the same time, it speaks for a very highly competitive division. Well,
I don't know how much competitive it can be when
you got homes.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
That's just the young men really does such a great
job in quarterback and it's amazing. But you know, you
start off with somebody like Russ coming back because for us,
that would be in my mind, with Pete, that would
be an easy getting back together and then understanding each
other and already having a preconception of what you're you're
gonna do, and then moving forward and then adding on
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some young people you know again, because really, I mean,
that's what the career stage that Russ is in. You know,
he's either in a mentorship stage or he's he's in
a backup stage.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that that's what's had. That's
what has to be kind of determined, right, is that
you know what capacity you bringing him in for, you know,
and that he clearly understands whatever that role is going
to be, you know, for wherever he is, whether he's
still here in Pittsburgh, whether he moves on you know, elsewhere.
(13:12):
You know, we don't want to project that he's going
to the rivers. We're just simply postulating that it's a possibility. Right,
But you know, whatever happens with Russ, you know that
the role was clearly defined. You know that you don't
kind of because I think he deserves that, He demands
that as a as a guy who has the resume
that he does.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Like I said, it will be a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So you know where that where that is and what
that role is will be very intriguing, you know, moving forward,
cause like you said, I mean a mentorship role, whether
you're getting the next guy ready and you're the guy
until you can pass the reins, or whether you are
coming in as a backup.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Trust you reliable veteran.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Who can understand this game, also motivate the guys and
keep everything together.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Exactly, So you know, and I think one of the
great questions that that's going to be answered after they
get settled on the quarterbacks and moving forward, of course,
is going to be the wide receiver room, because that
really needs a dusting over, shall we say, you know,
and I.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Think the most little Yeah. Now, now here's the big thing.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
You got George Pickens. You've got a guy that has
just I don't know, ridiculous attributes, abilities and everything else.
But he keeps finding himself in these places of how
do we put it, you know, and getting getting himself
in trouble, you know, whether it's you know, standing up
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after making.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
A catchover making questionable decision.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Making, like standing up over an opponent and putting the
football on him, you know, after making a great catch over.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Him that yeah, you know. I mean, to me, the
taunting rule to me is stupid. Okay. I I just
find that so reridiculous, you know. But it's like pros.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You can't handle it, you know, I mean, you can
handle that business between each other and if you if
you can't, then you shouldn't be a pro.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
But you know, the fact of the matter is when
you do things like that, you.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Just reduce your ability to be a leader in your room,
you know, because that's just making ridiculous mistakes that cost
your team. And man, when you cost your team, especially
in a situation like that, you get people in the
locker room that put a microphone up in your face
and they're saying, hey, you know, what do you think
about that? You know what, I don't want to talk
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about it. That's not you know, I don't want to.
You know, he's my teammate, you know, I want to
support him, but he's got to know that you can't
do stuff like that that it puts everybody else behind
the eight ball as far as what occurred there. So,
you know, it's just it's one of those funky situations
that I wonder how they're going to work this out.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I think you know, it's gonna requires sit down.
And I'm sure Mike Thomas already addressed this in his
postseason meetings, right those end of the year player meetings.
I'm sure this has been a discussion point for him.
And you have to think, you know, you're coming up
on free agency, you know, very soon, and obviously rest
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of the league sees what you're doing, right, I mean,
they watch the game films, they see, you know, what
potential conflicts there are with certain guys, and you know
you have to address those things. I mean, it's it's
about character, it's about maturity, and it's it's about garnering
you know, that that confidence that this guy is mature,
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that he can be a leader, because let's faces, i mean,
given the prominence of his role as wide receiver one
on this team, and we obviously know the amazing catches
and plays that he's capable of with his athleticism, the
mind has to follow the body, you know. If the
body you know, hope, well, yeah, that's the prayer, you know,
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but you have to make sure the mind gets stronger,
gets better, I mean, and we saw moments of that, right,
we saw moments of maturity.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
We saw moments of leadership from George.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But how how consistent and how reliable is that That's
want to make sure there's still an upward trajectory and
that it does not take take a down swing, because
when it takes a down swing, that's when it becomes
a distraction. That's when it becomes a liability and not
an asset to this team. And that's one of the
things that hopefully he continually works on. However, it is
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whether you have a mental coach, whether you have a therapist,
whether you have you know, some type of advisor, Like
what is the respect level in that room, and how
much control does the wide receiver coach have in that
and making sure he frames the player's mind to get
them ready to go.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's very true, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
And again this leads back to what we were talking
about yesterday about the backdoor conversations, behind the scenes, things
that go on the one on one between coach and
player that we'll never know and should never know.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I mean, those are.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Things that need to be highly guarded and you know,
restricted from any public viewing or hearing, I should say.
But the fact of the matters, you know, what does
Zach Avazzani and Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin collectively come
to think about George and about is he one of
these guys that's going they see lights of, you know,
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maturity switching on or is he regressing in that area?
I don't know, you know, I mean that's I've never
even had a conversation with a young man, so I
couldn't tell you, but he certainly is. He's intriguing because
of that great talent, but my gosh, I mean he
could be a coach killer.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, no, absolutely it could be, and you don't want that.
That's the last thing that you want, is you know,
having having someone go elsewhere who yeah, go elsewhere and
have success, but also but also could go elsewhere and
it could turn the opposite. Let's think about the last
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two Premier wide receivers that we've had and when they've
gone elsewhere, what what has happened? One of them stripped
down half naked and ran off the field, was going
to his third different team. Then the other one has
been on his well, he was going to an uber
that he was going to a uber and realized he
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couldn't take his pads with it, so he decided to
strip down in front of about sixty to seventy thousand
people before doing so very publicly. And then the other
one just unceremoniously is on like his third or fourth.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Team as well. So you know it, it could always
not be what you think it is.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The grass is not always greener on the other side, right,
what'd you say?
Speaker 7 (19:58):
It may be or the plant or the plan that
goes to the new grasses and always already.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Well, you know what, I it's gonna be interesting. I
wonder what Russ is thinking. I wonder what Pete Carroll
is thinking, and what the Steelers are thinking, because it
certainly is intriguing you wonder about it. It does look
like there's something that could be there. And at the
same time, you know, so much of a quarterback room
is the quarterback position is going to be about what
goes on in the wide receiver room. So we've got
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all that and more. And that is the opening salvo
here in the opening round of the Locker Room. Yes,
that canon, I love it. We'll be back with more
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Speaker 1 (20:57):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
brought to you by akra Shure, the official insurance and
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and by FedEx. Where now meets next? Now here's Craig
Wolfley and Max Stark's.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
All right, gets at the locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And you know, I was just lamenting obviously pre show,
and then during the break, I've I had to be
completely transparent with you out there Steelers Nation. Uh, everyone
say this fascinating documentary on the television. Uh, since the
show has been on and uh you know it's it's
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it's a great tale of a little known, you know,
football legend from a town in Ohio, Urbania.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It's a legend of Kevin o'sha on.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
For those of you that don't know, there's a documentary
called Little Giants that was out there.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Ed O'Neill, actual former NFL football player, Right, that's right,
short time Pittsburgh Steeler himself, but of course obviously big
time television.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Actor, well known for his role as Al Bundy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And the Married with Children and then Rick moranis Honey,
I shrunk the kids plays Danie o'sha So no, I've
been watching a little Jizzon's backround. It's it's been it's
been great. Uh kind of catching up on this. Got
ice Box, you got Spike, you know, buzz, I mean
all all all all great characters.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Your girls would love this movie. Wolf and I.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
We have to tune them into it because, uh, my
girls like to play flag football.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Yeah, oh yeah they will. They will love Icebox character
as well.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Ice Box is perfect.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, she's perfect.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Max. You know we've been pecky O'Shea. That's my niece
Becky and she's pissed.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yeah, Max, Like we've made the little giant jokes over
the years that we've done this, But I think the
best is A Wolf and I were cracking up because
I was showing him the trailer on on YouTube and
the the big offensive lineman guy who puts the peanut
butter jelly sandwiches in his helmet. Oh my god, he goes, Son,
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you won't get very far in life treating your helmet
as a lunch box.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And I was like, my was like, man, Wolf would
love that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That's that's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You got a little jelly maybe peb and j up there,
you know, cause yeah, you gotta you gotta have that,
you gotta well not only that, well, you know, the
funny part was I remember Mike Webster pulling off his
helmet one time and pulling a knee pad out of
the top of his helmet. I mean, that's that's as
old school as you can get, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
He might have been done better with the peanut pe
j at the top.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
At least at least he would have been full.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, well, oh my hey, listen, uncrustables. You know are
are are a thing of football lore and of necessity
in any NFL locker room. Now, so technically you would
say that this was the precursor to the uncrustable becoming
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widely adopted by the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well, think about it. I believe that the last thing
I checked on the uncrustables was they were They were
putting out them like seventy thousand to the NFL teams
the course of the season.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know, we we single handedly the National Football League
keeps smuckers in business with the uncrustables. It's not it's
not the kiddy lunches. No, no, no, it's the grown
kitties in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
That's right. And you know what, enjoy them. You need those.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
You need those moments when you got to pull that
thing out and you just it's the it's a it's
such a beautiful thing, like before we go to bed,
you know, a little glass of milking and uncrustable.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh yeah, especially when you've brought them from your away game.
You know what I'm saying, They're already nice and warmed.
It's kind of melded a little bit more so, it's
a softer feel because that jelly has infused with the bread.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Yeah, you know, it's just it's it's so amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But the one funny part to finish off that one
was what also was in there with the PB and
J and his helmet West?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Do you remember?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh? Wasn't it wasn't a banana? Was it?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Nope? Oh? So? Oh free does free does close cheetos?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It rhymes rhymes But he and Ed O'Neil asked the
one question.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
He said, puffs are crunchy. He said, puffs target you
know what?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
That sounds like such a good movie, man, I'm gotta
get on that.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That'll be interesting. It's yeah, it's a shame I haven't
tuned down to it before.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
It's you don't hear about it as much, right because
it doesn't fall into the category.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Of what's the best football movie ever?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Because it's it's all like it's a kid's nineties comedy. Yeah,
more than it is a football like it is a comedy.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's like a it is situationally.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
Football, you know, not a football movie, but man, it is.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's it's one of the best football movies I think
ever made. It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah, exactly, No, it's it's one of those and like
I said, it brings you know, just just such like
memories nostalgia, right of just growing up one to play football.
You know, you got the misfit squad versus you know,
essentially a Bad News Bears type squad, right, yeah, you
know against against the prototypical and his younger brother against
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older brother. Like like I feel like kicking and Screaming
was kind of based off of this with Will Ferrell.
You remember that movie, the soccer movie. I felt like
I had those same vibes.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
It express is the lifeblood that fuels America.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
What was the other young football movie with Denzel Washington?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Remember that.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
That That was a little bit heavier, that was definitely
more drama. Yes, that was the thing than the comedy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But but I mean a great football movie because obviously
it had tragedy in it and you know, overcoming that
and you know, unification of course undertones of of how
you know, differences can be applied. I think that's the
best way of putting that and bringing people together.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Literally, yeah, integration, yes, yeah, no doubt about it. So yeah,
so no, but but yeah, but little Giants is just
you know, I mean, just tremendous annexation of Porto rican Go.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Still one of the greatest plays ever called in football.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I think I forgot what NFL team tried to actually
run that play or college team, sorry, college team, not
NFL team. There was a college team that tried to
run the aggrestation of Puerto Rick. I forgot which one.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
I don't know, but you know what, what was it?
There was a Warren Batty started a movie. He was
a quarterback and he got lit up and he came
back as another quarterback or something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
What was that movie? Oh, Wes, can you look that up?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm looking for it right now.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I don't see Warren Beatty, and I know which one
you're talking about? College dog.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Something about heaven, you know, because he supposedly he died
on the field then he came back into somebody.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Else's heaven can wait?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Oh, Heaven can wait. That's it.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, that's the one. I was just about to say.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yes, star athlete and class president Washington Lee High School
in Arlington, Virginia.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
You know no.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
No.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Joe Hendleton, played by Warren Batty, quarterback for the L
A Rams, dies in an auto accident. In the afterlife
the Stummers, his guardian angel has taken him from his
body prematurely, and he is due to spend many more
years on Earth.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That was actually his real resume was that he actually
played football in high school.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Nice. Yeah, at Washington Lee High School in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Eighty six percent approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Wolf. That's
pretty good. Mid to high high.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Eighties is a pretty good that come out nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I remember it well.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Good year, gosh, that far back?
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Did you know I was in attendance at Syracuse?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Me too?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Did you know Warren Batty got offered ten scholarships to
play college football he turned them down to take to
go to Northwestern and do pursuing liberal arts and do acting.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
No, I didn't know that. Yeah, he looked like he
handled the part decently.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
You know, now at that time, I don't know how
old he was, but he was old enough that you know,
you could tell.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
It was like, okay, he was born in thirty seven.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
That was in seventy eight, so he would have been
forty one years old.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
So pretty good.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Ton Brady yeah, been Tom Brady ish.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Oh my gosh, this is this is pretty funny. It's
the part of The Little Giants where the all Madden
bus stopped by.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Oh yeah, EMT's Smith Smith.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Yeah, exactly. John Madden's talk of the plays over with
the one kid.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Boom Boom talked about a bump.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Did you ever get to meet John Madden?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I did, I did.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean he was an interesting guy. It's what
a neat guy.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I mean just but but I mean, but he's one
of those guys like just so personable, right, yeah, you know,
and I think that's that that's kind of what you know,
you know, kind of made him the household name and
the legend that he was and pcasting right, I could
only imagine playing for him, oh you know, you know,
even though granted it was for the Raiders, but the
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man himself, I mean, just a tremendous like human being
and like just so down to earth, so personal, and
he had just a way of relating, you know, whatever
it is he wanted to convey, he could do it seamlessly.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
He could relate to anybody. And I thought that was one.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Of those traits you know that you know when you
look at it, like that's what all of US broadcasters
aspire to, right, they have that ultimate relatability to the
audience that you're that you're.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Talking about absolute and uh and so you know, a
legend in and of himself.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Obviously quirky because you know, he had his own, uh,
his own way of doing things.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Couldn't ride an airplane.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So so he was able to you know, the Madden bus.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Did you ever the Madden Cruiser. I got to look
at it just real quick once. I'm just stepping up
inside and stuff. But it was amazing, you know what
I mean, that Madden Cruiser.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, I think I was. I don't think I was
old enough, or maybe maybe it wasn't minimum.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Maybe I just I can't even remember. It was so long.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Well no, no, because he pulled it up in the stadium,
so you would have had access to it. But I
just think because of me, because I only had mad
And you have to think his his last super Bowl
call was forty three, right, it was our our super
Bowl forty three And.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Was that the last one?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Yeah, that was the last one that he called.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So you know, you think about that was what four
years five years in the league, four years five years
in the league, My fifth year. So there were you know,
there wasn't that many opportunities you know that I got
to be around him. But I do remember getting a
chance to speak to him, you know when he came
in for like his pre Friday production meetings, right, I
was invited in a couple of times in those production meetings,
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and so getting to meet him Pat Summer all.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know, who else was really intriguing was Howard Cosell.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I would have loved to have met him. Yeah. I
never got hissed with him.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
He was really interesting. He just Howard coach South. Yeah,
I just that guy. I love when you know people
take shots and and go like spitballs at a battleship.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Yeah, exactly. And and my thing was like.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Like watching like the Ali movies and documentaries, like you know,
the relationship to him and Howard Cosell had and how
they would just go.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Back and forth was absolutely hilarious. Oh that was oh God.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And you know they had such a good teasing relationship
and like because Howard was so deadpan, right, it just
it's like it's like like you said, it was like
spitballs on a battleship or rocks at a tank.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Like he just.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
He was just so stonewalled and did of course you
have the charismatic you know, Muhammad Ali and it's just
and they they had a good repartee and it was
it was that was just one of the cool things.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
And that's what you love to see.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
That's the fun side of sports, right, Oh it is,
you know, and lighthearted side of it that you can
take yourself not so seriously exactly so.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
And part of that was the Monday Night Football Crew
when they had Dandy Don and you know then whoever
else was the third party. The fact was they started
a thing where people would buy these sponge bricks to
be able to throw the brick at the TV when
Coachell would.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Bad play bricks, bad call bricks.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, well no, it was it was about about Cossel,
you know, it was just about they wanted to brick him.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, that hilarious.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, but I thought they were called the bad call
bricks were what they were?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Well that might be, but I just remember that it
was it was, you know, a spongebrick and people you know,
it took great, great joy in throwing them at the
TV when when he would tick him off, he was.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Well, I mean you know, I mean but that but
that and that's the thing and polarizing. That's how you
engage people.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
You know, you could choose different ways to engage people, right,
whether it was you know, you know and enjoy and adelation,
or it was out of repulsion or disdain, you know.
But you know, all engagement is good engagement, right, you know,
And a lot of our eyes you know, if you're
tuning in to see us fail or you're tuning into
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what to hear hear us succeed.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
At the end of the day, you're tuning in, right.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
We like they say, you know, you tune into that
to NASCAR, you know.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
To see the res Yeah, exactly exactly. You tune in
to see the rex not not not not not the scores.
Oh yeah, yeah, that would be that would be a.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Boring race if nothing happened, right, they just raced and
somebody won.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
You're always making.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
Well yeah, and you want.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
To see the intimidator, right, you know Dale Earnhardt donating
the side of a car.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Right, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know
you have you have all those kind of historical uh situations.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know, him, Richard Petty, I mean, all those guys
like the legends of NASCAR. And now, of course I
can honestly say I cannot name. Is Casey Kane still
a NASCAR driver?
Speaker 7 (36:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The last one I can't remember, you know, Richard Petty
was the big one. My dad used to love it.
My dad used to race cars when he Yeah, when
he was growing up. He wanted his goal was to
he wanted to eventually end up at Indianapolis. And you know,
but my grandfather let him know that that would not
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be coptic with marrying his daughter.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
So my dad chose, Yeah, he chose to drive trucks
and start.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
His own business.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Uh and and and.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Of course, uh you know, uh wed my mother so
that hey, I could come along.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
There we go and look a look at the decision
making right there.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Look at the world is better because you didn't You
didn't just get you know, he.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Didn't just get the gal. He got the boys as well.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's that for sure. He did.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Craig, Ronnie and Dale.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
There you go, Mac.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Turn my microphone on here first.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Max Casey Kane in twenty eighteen, stepped away from NASCAR
to return to his roots in dirt racing.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
However, He just announced five days ago that he would
be returning to NASCAR in twenty five with the number
thirty three car as part of the Richard Childres's racing team.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Hey look at that. I know somebody that will be
in NASCAR.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
You know, one time when I was Indy, you should
I don't know, if you could try get they should
do something with the Indie.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Five hundred track.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
You go over to the track and you stand in
the middle of it. They got a golf course in
the middle of the Dad Gun thing. It's so big,
it's so enormous. It just literally you can't even believe
it as you're staying in the middle. What this would
be like on race day. I mean, it's just it's
a ginormous track.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
I mean, I would love to see that one day.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I just realized that, you know, because I've been to
a couple of NASCAR races. Obviously, I grew up in Orlando,
which was right by Daytona, So I've been down to
Daytona a number of times. I've been I've been actually
out here in Arizona at Phoenix P and R Phoenix
National Raceway for the Subway Fresh Fit four hundred. I
forgot what it's renamed now. But you know, I've been
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to a number of NASCAR races. I have not been
to Indie. I can only imagine going to Indie and
seeing how that is.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Max, I've always wanted to go to the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway as well.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm just saying we'll both be there at the same time,
about a month from now. And it looks like.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
It costs fifteen dollars for a tour of the museum
in the track.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think we could afford that.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I think we could too, Wesley. And let's face it,
our shows aren't necessarily be that long, you know that
we we could admit, you know, we would have an issue.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's not We'll just make We'll just make Daleen Matt
Dow double duty.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
There you go, I mean, went in doubt.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
I mean, and we'll pay them in Giordano.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Oh, Max, we get to kiss the bricks too.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
There we go. You know, I was starting to like
this idea, Bud.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
It's a magnificent view, it really is.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Okay, well, well, we'll thank you for giving us a
little inspiration. Here.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
We're gonna we're gonna circle back to this in a
couple of weeks mix.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
No, we will.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I think this will be a perfect circle back type
of situation. Yes, we will have to talk about this
because in February, what else is there to do?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You know exactly?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So basketball in Indianapolis. That's about it.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
That is true, Big Ten championships. Yeah, that's about it.
Any who, we're gonna step aside. We'll be back with
more here. We're kind of going a little bit off
the rail, so to speak. I mean not in a
negative sense, but we are a little bit off the rails.
It's okay, we'll be back with more here inside the
locker Room when we come back here on Steel's Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
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Speaker 11 (40:44):
And it's time for word of the day.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
All right.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
The word of the day is ambi sinister. Amba sinister
means rare. It's awkward or clumsy with both hands. Now,
that's kind of crazy, don't you think Max instead of
it's the exact opposite probably of ambidextrous.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
Right, yeah, yeah, I would believe that.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yes, Well, like I can remember why I was put
in short right field while playing the Hollywood All Stars
at a softball game at Three Rivers.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You know, that's that's where.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
You put people that are ambu sinister, that can't catch,
that can't throw. It was we played after a Pirates game, right,
you don't play with all these guys.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
We played these Hollywood All Stars. They had guys like.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Uh you know from you know, from Animal House and
stuff like that on and from uh oh, there was
a couple of musicals that there was some guys and
and it's it's really weird because I realized, Okay, I'm
really not I'm not a baseball player. I don't have
fine motor skills. So I was placed in short right field.
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Hopefully that nothing came to me. You know what I mean?
How about you, same thing, same thing. You're ambi centiser
or ambidextrous.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I was ambidextrous. Sorry, sorry, I forgot. I was actually
good with both hands because I'm a lefty naturally, so right,
you know, and and the world has made for right
handed people, so you kind of adapt accordingly.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah, yeah, well I tried. I just didn't do it well,
you know.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
But that's what that's what we gotta say.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
You gotta try, though, you gotta try, There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I was did you play baseball growing up?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I did. I did play baseball. I thought I was
going to be good at baseball too, you know, when.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
I knew I wasn't struck out in T ball? Seriously,
how do you do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
That's like so bad, so bading better and a miss?
Speaker 6 (43:09):
You know, one time I went with a buddy to
a hitting cage. I probably if I hope I don't
bore you with this story. I probably told it before.
But we went to a hitting cage because he has
been a good high school baseball player, right, so you.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Know, he was egging me on. I got into the.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Batting cage and you know, it's automatic and it just
fires one every I don't know, thirty seconds or twenty
seconds something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Well, he's behind the cage and he's critiquing.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
My swing, which is really horrible, right, and I'm not
making contact. I'm not hitting the darn thing. And I'm
getting more and more miffed as this is going on. Right,
So he's really cranking up the heat. And now I
take a mighty Dave Kingman type you know, home run shot,
and it whips around so much it was a aluminum
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bat and I hit myself in the back of the head.
I stunned mysel. Oh, I stunned myself. I saw stars.
So I staggered a couple of steps forward and guess
what happened. Took the next pitch, you know.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
In in the gordo.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
Well, pretty close, pretty pretty pretty close. Man, that thing
keeps firing. I'll tell you you put your money.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
I'm laying there and the thing is firing rockets over
my head.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
It was.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It was a bad moment to be me. Absolutely, I
would I.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Would say, so Wolf, that does sound good, and I'm
just gonna be honest.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
I feel for you.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
That's that's pretty much Amber sinister and a rap.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I would say very easily.
Speaker 11 (44:52):
Uh, I gotta tell you that hurt.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Okay, that's a wrap on the first hour. Going to
wrap boys, ever, we're going to the power hour coming up.
Possession narrow points to Max we'll be back with more.
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Play action pass rolling out to the left, Wilson trying
to get to the edge. Wilson dives one, two step
and three is in for six touchdown.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Pittsburgh Steelers putting the band back together.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Forget it, no way, We're on a mission from God.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
You know, you think about it.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
You got Pete Carroll going to Vegas right taking over
the Raiders head coaching job.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Max.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Now you got also Darryl Bevill, who was the offensive
coordinator for Pete Carroll, and of course Russell Wilson. He's
interviewed with the Raiders and that looks like they could
be That could be copea seedic too, okay with Bevill
as a OHC. Wilson made what five Pro Bowls? Won
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a Super Bowl together? I don't know, you know, he
led the league in passer rating in twenty fifteen, led
the league in passing TD's in twenty seventeen, I say
to you, my friend, is the band getting back together
Blues Brothers style, and is Russ Wilson heading West?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So you're saying Russ is going back to another AFC
West team, all right, telling.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Just wondering, just wondering.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, Now, I mean, hey, it's a distinct possibility. Obviously
he still has the conversation that he's having with the
Steelers about contracts.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
But you know, you wonder is.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That a potential destination because like you said, all signs
point to that, and you know, I feel like the
song they should have been playing also should have been
the Boys are back in town?
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Right, true?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
True, yeah, But I mean but it does make for
an interesting things as as we you know, we still
have you know, a little over a month before free
agency starts, and you know, it'll be interesting to see
how those contract talks either evolve or devolve in the process,
right you know. That's that That's that's the crazy part
(02:38):
about it. But it does make for intriguing commentary. You
would think points would be at that point. But also
there was a reason why Pete Carroll, you know, did
not pursue further and before he left Seattle, you know,
they were willing to trade Russell to Denver. So very
interesting and very proposing.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Well what's kind of interesting right now? You got what
you got a hippie gardner Minshew, and you got who
was the other quarterback for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I can't think of his name.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Right off the top of my fondnell.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Oh yeah, Aidan O'Connell.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
All right, So if I'm Pete Carroll, I mean job
one for him has also got to be in landing
a quarterback, and it seems like it would be a
good thing to reach out to Russell because you bring
Russell in and then you draft a you know, a
young guy. Again, this could be you know, playing out
(03:31):
a little bit, and like it was, we thought it
might last year, but you know, I don't know, the
whole thing just kind of got kaibashed a little bit
in that sense. But you know, Russell Wilson still got
enough to maybe warrant recombining with you know the band
members there.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Think it definitely is intriguing. And like you said, I
mean for a team that's looking to rebuild and you know,
there's so many holes are on the Raiders, and this
is a team which is crazy enough to say that
I actually saw just as much as you know I
did the Ravens because we played the Ravens three times.
I called three Raiders games out there this season, and so,
(04:15):
you know, looking at the squad, I mean, there are pieces,
but there's a lot more pieces.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Obviously you need to build around them.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
And if you can take quarterback off the table with
what is that the number five pick, I believe overall,
then you could possibly trade that resource and try and
get some more so you can try and fill more
of those holes for the Raiders, at least in the
in the short term.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
So I don't mind that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And but I think also ultimately come down to you know,
Pete Carroll's comfortability with Russ coming back to him, and
then of course Tom Brady, who has a big influences.
Pete talked about in his opening press conference about having
a mind like Tom Brady there, you know, to pick
his brain because he's a unique human being. So I mean,
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there's a lot of good things in there that could
lead to some intriguing conversations moving forward.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
But I like the idea Wolf, Okay, I see you, Well,
I'm not sure I liked the idea. I just you know,
it's just kind of coming together and it but it's intriguing.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It is intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
We don't have to like it, but you know it
leads to good come that's good journalism.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Sir, Right, what's journalism exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's this thing with words on paper, this ancient device.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
So don't worry about.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
It because you know why. You gotta get out of
your way. That's the thing about it. You got you gotta.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Get absolutely cannot stand in our own way with that.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Just from max for three seconds.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yeah, Okay, that's it. That's it, that's it, that's it,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Perfect.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
But yeah, that's what we need. Little boys are back
in town.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
We would have rocked on with the rest of it.
But if, of course we can't, we can't afford to.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah yeah, no, no, no, those those fcc fins are
just like FedEx envelopes to football players.
Speaker 9 (06:08):
Oh yeah, that would be bad, kid, You not once
a year. We have to do this, you know. iHeart
compliance training seminar thing online.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You know.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
It takes like thirty forty minutes like that, nothing crazy.
I just did it this morning before I came into work.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh really.
Speaker 9 (06:22):
One of the lesson bullet point things was about getting
fined by the FCC and how those are easily five
and six figure fines.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I was like, yeah, all.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Right, okay, okay, we got to keep that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's why we get three point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
There you go, and you know it. You got to
buy the board.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
Three point seven seconds, all right, four and a half seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
And then somebody's fine, maybe six seconds.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
All it's all funny games until somebody loses their wallet,
you know, Max, I.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Got to push the buttons in here to go to break.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Exactly, bring them back.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
That guy we need.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That guy comes out like like the comedic like stage hook.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
They just yanke wess out.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That's all folks.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, or they just shut or they just shut the
lights off and then they come back on and it's
like he's disappeared.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
But yeah, I think it's very intriguing. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Keep going think about this because it will also make
the decision here so much easier. All Right, you're gonna
go with Justin Fields, you're gonna go with the young legs,
You're gonna go with a guy that It would have
been interesting now in retrospect, of course everything in rear
view mirror is is totally different, right, But to look
and see what he might have accomplished and and how
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far he might have grown into the Arthur Smith system.
You know, hey, look I was all on board about
Russ when you know, taking over and and you know
he there was an initial reaction that really kind of
kickstarted the season and on their way to knocking down
ten wins or you know how many?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
You got?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Six of his wins? Yes, right, yeah, do the math?
Dog gone it all? I can't even remember, but yeah,
it's yeah, six victories. Yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So the fact is, you know, you look at that
and you think, you know, what would have happened now
in retrospect, it's kind of interesting. If you ask me,
and I'm asking you, okay, put your burger down.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Would you. It's not a burger, You're killing me. It
was it was a glazed Donutnot what a thing of
beauty that is. I know, it was wonderful. It was
wonderful donut Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Oh yeah, you know that's how you got a roll.
You know, you can't do victory, do the victory on Monday,
So you got wonderful Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Okay, Yeah, it's called the Lake gratification.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You know, well, if we have the sacrifice, I was here,
but I got you for our show, we will never
not do donuts.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah you're you're teasing me. You're just teasing me.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I apologize, but
but you do have a fridge in there that does
have wondrous things in it, So maybe there's something wondrous
in there.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I'm just I'm just saying I think that they're stone
cold out. I checked it every day. You already checked.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know it, all right? So so yeah, so let's
get back to the question. The question again, it was
a question.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
The question was all about whether or not Russ going
West was part of putting the Blues Brothers band back
together back together.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah, no way, We're on a mission from God. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So do you now?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
The interesting thing is I forgot about you know, uh,
Pete Carroll, you know, trading Russ Wilson right towards the
end there.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, it was part of it.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, that was part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And you know, obviously that didn't work well for Pete
because he got fired about about you know, was it
two years after that? And then, of course now you
have Mike McDonald there as the head coach.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Pete sat out a year.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Things didn't work out when Sean Payton came to Denver,
which allowed us an opportunity to get Russ. Now Pete
Carroll has joined the AFC West ranks to go head
to head with other newer coaches that are not named
Andy Reid. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Andy Reid has seen.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine different
head coaches in the AFC West in the last four years.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Wow, that's almost Cleveland dish, you know.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah, it is. It is Cleveland dish.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And like you said, you know, trying to figure out
who the X factor is. And when you're talking about
Andy Reid, you know we've seen what a new head
coach can do because you look at Nathaniel Hackett was gone,
Brendan Staley and Antonio Pierce right, all three first time
head coaches that went out to the AFC West all gone,
and now look at it could potent it now is
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Pete Carroll won a Super Bowl, Sean Payton won a
Super Bowl. John Harbaugh been to a couple of Super Bowls.
That's going up against Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs.
Just think about that idea right there, that they had
to go bring Super Bowl caliber winning coaches to try
and defeat Andy Reid. I don't know of another division
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that has that much, you know, a coaching experience, you know,
from the head coaching.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Position out that way.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I think that's I think that's pretty crazy right there.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
You know, absolutely, that is nuts, you know, But at
the same time, it speaks for a very highly competitive division. Well,
I don't know how much competitive it can be when
you got homes.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
That's just the young men really does such a great
job in quarterback and it's amazing. But you know, you
start off with somebody like Russ coming back because for us,
that would be in my mind, with Pete, that would
be an easy getting back together and then understanding each
other and already having a preconception of what you're you're
gonna do, and then moving forward and then adding on
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some young people you know again, because really, I mean,
that's what the career stage that Russ is in. You know,
he's either in a mentorship stage or he's he's in
a backup stage.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that that's what's had. That's
what has to be kind of determined, right, is that
you know what capacity you bringing him in for, you know,
and that he clearly understands whatever that role is going
to be, you know, for wherever he is, whether he's
still here in Pittsburgh, whether he moves on you know, elsewhere.
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You know, we don't want to project that he's going
to the rivers. We're just simply postulating that it's a possibility. Right,
But you know, whatever happens with Russ, you know that
the role was clearly defined. You know that you don't
kind of because I think he deserves that, He demands
that as a as a guy who has the resume
that he does.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Like I said, it will be a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So you know where that where that is and what
that role is will be very intriguing, you know, moving forward,
cause like you said, I mean a mentorship role, whether
you're getting the next guy ready and you're the guy
until you can pass the reins, or whether you are
coming in as a backup.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Trust you reliable veteran.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Who can understand this game, also motivate the guys and
keep everything together.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Exactly, So you know, and I think one of the
great questions that that's going to be answered after they
get settled on the quarterbacks and moving forward, of course,
is going to be the wide receiver room, because that
really needs a dusting over, shall we say, you know,
and I.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Think the most little Yeah. Now, now here's the big thing.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
You got George Pickens. You've got a guy that has
just I don't know, ridiculous attributes, abilities and everything else.
But he keeps finding himself in these places of how
do we put it, you know, and getting getting himself
in trouble, you know, whether it's you know, standing up
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after making.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
A catchover making questionable decision.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Making, like standing up over an opponent and putting the
football on him, you know, after making a great catch over.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Him that yeah, you know. I mean, to me, the
taunting rule to me is stupid. Okay. I I just
find that so reridiculous, you know. But it's like pros.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You can't handle it, you know, I mean, you can
handle that business between each other and if you if
you can't, then you shouldn't be a pro.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
But you know, the fact of the matter is when
you do things like that, you.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Just reduce your ability to be a leader in your room,
you know, because that's just making ridiculous mistakes that cost
your team. And man, when you cost your team, especially
in a situation like that, you get people in the
locker room that put a microphone up in your face
and they're saying, hey, you know, what do you think
about that? You know what, I don't want to talk
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about it. That's not you know, I don't want to.
You know, he's my teammate, you know, I want to
support him, but he's got to know that you can't
do stuff like that that it puts everybody else behind
the eight ball as far as what occurred there. So,
you know, it's just it's one of those funky situations
that I wonder how they're going to work this out.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I think you know, it's gonna requires sit down.
And I'm sure Mike Thomas already addressed this in his
postseason meetings, right those end of the year player meetings.
I'm sure this has been a discussion point for him.
And you have to think, you know, you're coming up
on free agency, you know, very soon, and obviously rest
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of the league sees what you're doing, right, I mean,
they watch the game films, they see, you know, what
potential conflicts there are with certain guys, and you know
you have to address those things. I mean, it's it's
about character, it's about maturity, and it's it's about garnering
you know, that that confidence that this guy is mature,
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that he can be a leader, because let's faces, i mean,
given the prominence of his role as wide receiver one
on this team, and we obviously know the amazing catches
and plays that he's capable of with his athleticism, the
mind has to follow the body, you know. If the
body you know, hope, well, yeah, that's the prayer, you know,
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but you have to make sure the mind gets stronger,
gets better, I mean, and we saw moments of that, right,
we saw moments of maturity.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
We saw moments of leadership from George.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But how how consistent and how reliable is that That's
want to make sure there's still an upward trajectory and
that it does not take take a down swing, because
when it takes a down swing, that's when it becomes
a distraction. That's when it becomes a liability and not
an asset to this team. And that's one of the
things that hopefully he continually works on. However, it is
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whether you have a mental coach, whether you have a therapist,
whether you have you know, some type of advisor, Like
what is the respect level in that room, and how
much control does the wide receiver coach have in that
and making sure he frames the player's mind to get
them ready to go.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's very true, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
And again this leads back to what we were talking
about yesterday about the backdoor conversations, behind the scenes, things
that go on the one on one between coach and
player that we'll never know and should never know.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I mean, those are.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Things that need to be highly guarded and you know,
restricted from any public viewing or hearing, I should say.
But the fact of the matters, you know, what does
Zach Avazzani and Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin collectively come
to think about George and about is he one of
these guys that's going they see lights of, you know,
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maturity switching on or is he regressing in that area?
I don't know, you know, I mean that's I've never
even had a conversation with a young man, so I
couldn't tell you, but he certainly is. He's intriguing because
of that great talent, but my gosh, I mean he
could be a coach killer.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, no, absolutely it could be, and you don't want that.
That's the last thing that you want, is you know,
having having someone go elsewhere who yeah, go elsewhere and
have success, but also but also could go elsewhere and
it could turn the opposite. Let's think about the last
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two Premier wide receivers that we've had and when they've
gone elsewhere, what what has happened? One of them stripped
down half naked and ran off the field, was going
to his third different team. Then the other one has
been on his well, he was going to an uber
that he was going to a uber and realized he
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couldn't take his pads with it, so he decided to
strip down in front of about sixty to seventy thousand
people before doing so very publicly. And then the other
one just unceremoniously is on like his third or fourth.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Team as well. So you know it, it could always
not be what you think it is.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The grass is not always greener on the other side, right,
what'd you say?
Speaker 7 (19:58):
It may be or the plant or the plan that
goes to the new grasses and always already.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Well, you know what, I it's gonna be interesting. I
wonder what Russ is thinking. I wonder what Pete Carroll
is thinking, and what the Steelers are thinking, because it
certainly is intriguing you wonder about it. It does look
like there's something that could be there. And at the
same time, you know, so much of a quarterback room
is the quarterback position is going to be about what
goes on in the wide receiver room. So we've got
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all that and more. And that is the opening salvo
here in the opening round of the Locker Room. Yes,
that canon, I love it. We'll be back with more
after this. You're listening to the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 7 (21:20):
All right, gets at the locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And you know, I was just lamenting obviously pre show,
and then during the break, I've I had to be
completely transparent with you out there Steelers Nation. Uh, everyone
say this fascinating documentary on the television. Uh, since the
show has been on and uh you know it's it's
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it's a great tale of a little known, you know,
football legend from a town in Ohio, Urbania.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It's a legend of Kevin o'sha on.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
For those of you that don't know, there's a documentary
called Little Giants that was out there.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Ed O'Neill, actual former NFL football player, Right, that's right,
short time Pittsburgh Steeler himself, but of course obviously big
time television.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Actor, well known for his role as Al Bundy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And the Married with Children and then Rick moranis Honey,
I shrunk the kids plays Danie o'sha So no, I've
been watching a little Jizzon's backround. It's it's been it's
been great. Uh kind of catching up on this. Got
ice Box, you got Spike, you know, buzz, I mean
all all all all great characters.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Your girls would love this movie. Wolf and I.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
We have to tune them into it because, uh, my
girls like to play flag football.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Yeah, oh yeah they will. They will love Icebox character
as well.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Ice Box is perfect.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, she's perfect.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Max. You know we've been pecky O'Shea. That's my niece
Becky and she's pissed.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yeah, Max, Like we've made the little giant jokes over
the years that we've done this, But I think the
best is A Wolf and I were cracking up because
I was showing him the trailer on on YouTube and
the the big offensive lineman guy who puts the peanut
butter jelly sandwiches in his helmet. Oh my god, he goes, Son,
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you won't get very far in life treating your helmet
as a lunch box.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And I was like, my was like, man, Wolf would
love that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That's that's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You got a little jelly maybe peb and j up there,
you know, cause yeah, you gotta you gotta have that,
you gotta well not only that, well, you know, the
funny part was I remember Mike Webster pulling off his
helmet one time and pulling a knee pad out of
the top of his helmet. I mean, that's that's as
old school as you can get, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
He might have been done better with the peanut pe
j at the top.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
At least at least he would have been full.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, well, oh my hey, listen, uncrustables. You know are
are are a thing of football lore and of necessity
in any NFL locker room. Now, so technically you would
say that this was the precursor to the uncrustable becoming
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widely adopted by the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well, think about it. I believe that the last thing
I checked on the uncrustables was they were They were
putting out them like seventy thousand to the NFL teams
the course of the season.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know, we we single handedly the National Football League
keeps smuckers in business with the uncrustables. It's not it's
not the kiddy lunches. No, no, no, it's the grown
kitties in the locker room.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
That's right. And you know what, enjoy them. You need those.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
You need those moments when you got to pull that
thing out and you just it's the it's a it's
such a beautiful thing, like before we go to bed,
you know, a little glass of milking and uncrustable.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh yeah, especially when you've brought them from your away game.
You know what I'm saying, They're already nice and warmed.
It's kind of melded a little bit more so, it's
a softer feel because that jelly has infused with the bread.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Yeah, you know, it's just it's it's so amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But the one funny part to finish off that one
was what also was in there with the PB and
J and his helmet West?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Do you remember?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh? Wasn't it wasn't a banana? Was it?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Nope? Oh? So? Oh free does free does close cheetos?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It rhymes rhymes But he and Ed O'Neil asked the
one question.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
He said, puffs are crunchy. He said, puffs target you
know what?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
That sounds like such a good movie, man, I'm gotta
get on that.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That'll be interesting. It's yeah, it's a shame I haven't
tuned down to it before.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
It's you don't hear about it as much, right because
it doesn't fall into the category.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Of what's the best football movie ever?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Because it's it's all like it's a kid's nineties comedy. Yeah,
more than it is a football like it is a comedy.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's like a it is situationally.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
Football, you know, not a football movie, but man, it is.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's it's one of the best football movies I think
ever made. It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah, exactly, No, it's it's one of those and like
I said, it brings you know, just just such like
memories nostalgia, right of just growing up one to play football.
You know, you got the misfit squad versus you know,
essentially a Bad News Bears type squad, right, yeah, you
know against against the prototypical and his younger brother against
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older brother. Like like I feel like kicking and Screaming
was kind of based off of this with Will Ferrell.
You remember that movie, the soccer movie. I felt like
I had those same vibes.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
It express is the lifeblood that fuels America.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
What was the other young football movie with Denzel Washington?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Remember that.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
That That was a little bit heavier, that was definitely
more drama. Yes, that was the thing than the comedy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But but I mean a great football movie because obviously
it had tragedy in it and you know, overcoming that
and you know, unification of course undertones of of how
you know, differences can be applied. I think that's the
best way of putting that and bringing people together.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Literally, yeah, integration, yes, yeah, no doubt about it. So yeah,
so no, but but yeah, but little Giants is just
you know, I mean, just tremendous annexation of Porto rican Go.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Still one of the greatest plays ever called in football.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I think I forgot what NFL team tried to actually
run that play or college team, sorry, college team, not
NFL team. There was a college team that tried to
run the aggrestation of Puerto Rick. I forgot which one.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
I don't know, but you know what, what was it?
There was a Warren Batty started a movie. He was
a quarterback and he got lit up and he came
back as another quarterback or something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
What was that movie? Oh, Wes, can you look that up?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm looking for it right now.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I don't see Warren Beatty, and I know which one
you're talking about? College dog.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Something about heaven, you know, because he supposedly he died
on the field then he came back into somebody.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Else's heaven can wait?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Oh, Heaven can wait. That's it.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, that's the one. I was just about to say.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yes, star athlete and class president Washington Lee High School
in Arlington, Virginia.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
You know no.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
No.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Joe Hendleton, played by Warren Batty, quarterback for the L
A Rams, dies in an auto accident. In the afterlife
the Stummers, his guardian angel has taken him from his
body prematurely, and he is due to spend many more
years on Earth.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That was actually his real resume was that he actually
played football in high school.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Nice. Yeah, at Washington Lee High School in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Eighty six percent approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Wolf. That's
pretty good. Mid to high high.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
Eighties is a pretty good that come out nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I remember it well.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Good year, gosh, that far back?
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Did you know I was in attendance at Syracuse?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Me too?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Did you know Warren Batty got offered ten scholarships to
play college football he turned them down to take to
go to Northwestern and do pursuing liberal arts and do acting.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
No, I didn't know that. Yeah, he looked like he
handled the part decently.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
You know, now at that time, I don't know how
old he was, but he was old enough that you know,
you could tell.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
It was like, okay, he was born in thirty seven.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
That was in seventy eight, so he would have been
forty one years old.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
So pretty good.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Ton Brady yeah, been Tom Brady ish.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Oh my gosh, this is this is pretty funny. It's
the part of The Little Giants where the all Madden
bus stopped by.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Oh yeah, EMT's Smith Smith.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
Yeah, exactly. John Madden's talk of the plays over with
the one kid.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Boom Boom talked about a bump.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Did you ever get to meet John Madden?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I did, I did.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean he was an interesting guy. It's what
a neat guy.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I mean just but but I mean, but he's one
of those guys like just so personable, right, yeah, you know,
and I think that's that that's kind of what you know,
you know, kind of made him the household name and
the legend that he was and pcasting right, I could
only imagine playing for him, oh you know, you know,
even though granted it was for the Raiders, but the
(31:08):
man himself, I mean, just a tremendous like human being
and like just so down to earth, so personal, and
he had just a way of relating, you know, whatever
it is he wanted to convey, he could do it seamlessly.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
He could relate to anybody. And I thought that was one.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Of those traits you know that you know when you
look at it, like that's what all of US broadcasters
aspire to, right, they have that ultimate relatability to the
audience that you're that you're.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Talking about absolute and uh and so you know, a
legend in and of himself.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Obviously quirky because you know, he had his own, uh,
his own way of doing things.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Couldn't ride an airplane.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So so he was able to you know, the Madden bus.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Did you ever the Madden Cruiser. I got to look
at it just real quick once. I'm just stepping up
inside and stuff. But it was amazing, you know what
I mean, that Madden Cruiser.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, I think I was. I don't think I was
old enough, or maybe maybe it wasn't minimum.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Maybe I just I can't even remember. It was so long.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Well no, no, because he pulled it up in the stadium,
so you would have had access to it. But I
just think because of me, because I only had mad
And you have to think his his last super Bowl
call was forty three, right, it was our our super
Bowl forty three And.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Was that the last one?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Yeah, that was the last one that he called.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So you know, you think about that was what four
years five years in the league, four years five years
in the league, My fifth year. So there were you know,
there wasn't that many opportunities you know that I got
to be around him. But I do remember getting a
chance to speak to him, you know when he came
in for like his pre Friday production meetings, right, I
was invited in a couple of times in those production meetings,
(32:54):
and so getting to meet him Pat Summer all.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know, who else was really intriguing was Howard Cosell.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I would have loved to have met him. Yeah. I
never got hissed with him.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
He was really interesting. He just Howard coach South. Yeah,
I just that guy. I love when you know people
take shots and and go like spitballs at a battleship.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Yeah, exactly. And and my thing was like.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Like watching like the Ali movies and documentaries, like you know,
the relationship to him and Howard Cosell had and how
they would just go.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Back and forth was absolutely hilarious. Oh that was oh God.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And you know they had such a good teasing relationship
and like because Howard was so deadpan, right, it just
it's like it's like like you said, it was like
spitballs on a battleship or rocks at a tank.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Like he just.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
He was just so stonewalled and did of course you
have the charismatic you know, Muhammad Ali and it's just
and they they had a good repartee and it was
it was that was just one of the cool things.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
And that's what you love to see.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
That's the fun side of sports, right, Oh it is,
you know, and lighthearted side of it that you can
take yourself not so seriously exactly so.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
And part of that was the Monday Night Football Crew
when they had Dandy Don and you know then whoever
else was the third party. The fact was they started
a thing where people would buy these sponge bricks to
be able to throw the brick at the TV when
Coachell would.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Bad play bricks, bad call bricks.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, well no, it was it was about about Cossel,
you know, it was just about they wanted to brick him.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, that hilarious.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, but I thought they were called the bad call
bricks were what they were?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Well that might be, but I just remember that it
was it was, you know, a spongebrick and people you know,
it took great, great joy in throwing them at the
TV when when he would tick him off, he was.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Well, I mean you know, I mean but that but
that and that's the thing and polarizing. That's how you
engage people.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
You know, you could choose different ways to engage people, right,
whether it was you know, you know and enjoy and adelation,
or it was out of repulsion or disdain, you know.
But you know, all engagement is good engagement, right, you know,
And a lot of our eyes you know, if you're
tuning in to see us fail or you're tuning into
(35:18):
what to hear hear us succeed.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
At the end of the day, you're tuning in, right.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
We like they say, you know, you tune into that
to NASCAR, you know.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
To see the res Yeah, exactly exactly. You tune in
to see the rex not not not not not the scores.
Oh yeah, yeah, that would be that would be a.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Boring race if nothing happened, right, they just raced and
somebody won.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
You're always making.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
Well yeah, and you want.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
To see the intimidator, right, you know Dale Earnhardt donating
the side of a car.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Right, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know
you have you have all those kind of historical uh situations.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know, him, Richard Petty, I mean, all those guys
like the legends of NASCAR. And now, of course I
can honestly say I cannot name. Is Casey Kane still
a NASCAR driver?
Speaker 7 (36:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The last one I can't remember, you know, Richard Petty
was the big one. My dad used to love it.
My dad used to race cars when he Yeah, when
he was growing up. He wanted his goal was to
he wanted to eventually end up at Indianapolis. And you know,
but my grandfather let him know that that would not
(36:31):
be coptic with marrying his daughter.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
So my dad chose, Yeah, he chose to drive trucks
and start.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
His own business.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Uh and and and.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Of course, uh you know, uh wed my mother so
that hey, I could come along.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
There we go and look a look at the decision
making right there.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Look at the world is better because you didn't You
didn't just get you know, he.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Didn't just get the gal. He got the boys as well.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's that for sure. He did.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Craig, Ronnie and Dale.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
There you go, Mac.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Turn my microphone on here first.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Max Casey Kane in twenty eighteen, stepped away from NASCAR
to return to his roots in dirt racing.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
However, He just announced five days ago that he would
be returning to NASCAR in twenty five with the number
thirty three car as part of the Richard Childres's racing team.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Hey look at that. I know somebody that will be
in NASCAR.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
You know, one time when I was Indy, you should
I don't know, if you could try get they should
do something with the Indie.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Five hundred track.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
You go over to the track and you stand in
the middle of it. They got a golf course in
the middle of the Dad Gun thing. It's so big,
it's so enormous. It just literally you can't even believe
it as you're staying in the middle. What this would
be like on race day. I mean, it's just it's
a ginormous track.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
I mean, I would love to see that one day.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I just realized that, you know, because I've been to
a couple of NASCAR races. Obviously, I grew up in Orlando,
which was right by Daytona, So I've been down to
Daytona a number of times. I've been I've been actually
out here in Arizona at Phoenix P and R Phoenix
National Raceway for the Subway Fresh Fit four hundred. I
forgot what it's renamed now. But you know, I've been
(38:26):
to a number of NASCAR races. I have not been
to Indie. I can only imagine going to Indie and
seeing how that is.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Max, I've always wanted to go to the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway as well.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm just saying we'll both be there at the same time,
about a month from now. And it looks like.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
It costs fifteen dollars for a tour of the museum
in the track.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think we could afford that.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I think we could too, Wesley. And let's face it,
our shows aren't necessarily be that long, you know that
we we could admit, you know, we would have an issue.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's not We'll just make We'll just make Daleen Matt
Dow double duty.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
There you go, I mean, went in doubt.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
I mean, and we'll pay them in Giordano.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Oh, Max, we get to kiss the bricks too.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
There we go. You know, I was starting to like
this idea, Bud.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
It's a magnificent view, it really is.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Okay, well, well, we'll thank you for giving us a
little inspiration. Here.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
We're gonna we're gonna circle back to this in a
couple of weeks mix.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
No, we will.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I think this will be a perfect circle back type
of situation. Yes, we will have to talk about this
because in February, what else is there to do?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You know exactly?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So basketball in Indianapolis. That's about it.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
That is true, Big Ten championships. Yeah, that's about it.
Any who, we're gonna step aside. We'll be back with
more here. We're kind of going a little bit off
the rail, so to speak. I mean not in a
negative sense, but we are a little bit off the rails.
It's okay, we'll be back with more here inside the
locker Room when we come back here on Steel's Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
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Wolfley and Max Starks.
Speaker 11 (40:44):
And it's time for word of the day.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
All right.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
The word of the day is ambi sinister. Amba sinister
means rare. It's awkward or clumsy with both hands. Now,
that's kind of crazy, don't you think Max instead of
it's the exact opposite probably of ambidextrous.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
Right, yeah, yeah, I would believe that.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yes, Well, like I can remember why I was put
in short right field while playing the Hollywood All Stars
at a softball game at Three Rivers.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You know, that's that's where.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
You put people that are ambu sinister, that can't catch,
that can't throw. It was we played after a Pirates game, right,
you don't play with all these guys.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
We played these Hollywood All Stars. They had guys like.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Uh you know from you know, from Animal House and
stuff like that on and from uh oh, there was
a couple of musicals that there was some guys and
and it's it's really weird because I realized, Okay, I'm
really not I'm not a baseball player. I don't have
fine motor skills. So I was placed in short right field.
(42:09):
Hopefully that nothing came to me. You know what I mean?
How about you, same thing, same thing. You're ambi centiser
or ambidextrous.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I was ambidextrous. Sorry, sorry, I forgot. I was actually
good with both hands because I'm a lefty naturally, so right,
you know, and and the world has made for right
handed people, so you kind of adapt accordingly.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah, yeah, well I tried. I just didn't do it well,
you know.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
But that's what that's what we gotta say.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
You gotta try, though, you gotta try, There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I was did you play baseball growing up?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I did. I did play baseball. I thought I was
going to be good at baseball too, you know, when.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
I knew I wasn't struck out in T ball? Seriously,
how do you do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
That's like so bad, so bading better and a miss?
Speaker 6 (43:09):
You know, one time I went with a buddy to
a hitting cage. I probably if I hope I don't
bore you with this story. I probably told it before.
But we went to a hitting cage because he has
been a good high school baseball player, right, so you.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Know, he was egging me on. I got into the.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Batting cage and you know, it's automatic and it just
fires one every I don't know, thirty seconds or twenty
seconds something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Well, he's behind the cage and he's critiquing.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
My swing, which is really horrible, right, and I'm not
making contact. I'm not hitting the darn thing. And I'm
getting more and more miffed as this is going on. Right,
So he's really cranking up the heat. And now I
take a mighty Dave Kingman type you know, home run shot,
and it whips around so much it was a aluminum
(43:58):
bat and I hit myself in the back of the head.
I stunned mysel. Oh, I stunned myself. I saw stars.
So I staggered a couple of steps forward and guess
what happened. Took the next pitch, you know.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
In in the gordo.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
Well, pretty close, pretty pretty pretty close. Man, that thing
keeps firing. I'll tell you you put your money.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
I'm laying there and the thing is firing rockets over
my head.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
It was.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It was a bad moment to be me. Absolutely, I
would I.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Would say, so Wolf, that does sound good, and I'm
just gonna be honest.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
I feel for you.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
That's that's pretty much Amber sinister and a rap.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I would say very easily.
Speaker 11 (44:52):
Uh, I gotta tell you that hurt.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Okay, that's a wrap on the first hour. Going to
wrap boys, ever, we're going to the power hour coming up.
Possession narrow points to Max we'll be back with more.
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