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Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
brought to you by acro Sure, the official insurance and
cybersecurity partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, by Bett MGM, Huntington Bank, PNC, PEPSI,
and by FedEx. Where now meets next? Now here's Craig
Wolfley and Max Starks.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Putting the band back together. We're on a mission from God.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, apparently we might have jumped the gun there a
little bit. Or according to pistol Pete Carroll, he's saying
a little too early in the process to say whether
putting the band back together is a possibility. Now, if
you remember Max, you got Daryl Bebbell, Russ's oc.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's back with Pete.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It looks like and naturally you might think it's a
reunion in Vegas. But he put the kibosh on that
and kind of said, whoa wait a minute, now.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh, okay, well, hey, I mean you know it is early.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
And once again he still has to talk to Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You must get the blessing of the Godfather.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
You come to me on this day. He asked me
a question.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
He hasn't talked to the god or he hasn't kissed
the ring yet, so he can't he can't go he
can't go full he can't go full.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
On, you know, banding with the with the with the
Journey from god.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Did you did you love the Godfather series? I thought
it was great And I know, how do you like?
You know, you make the gangster mode looks so you know,
appealing in some ways, but you know, it was just
it was a monster show. You know, really enjoyed it. Yeah,
I mean you know that. I mean exactly we're setting
(02:26):
the mood here, setting the time.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I mean, the trilogy, the trilogy.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Of it, you know, I I thought, you know, the
whole thing was just fantastic, going from the beginning to
the end and how it all kind of resolved itself
and just amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know, it was a really yeah, to be the.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Done, to be the do you know, come on from Italy?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
It doesn't spend time with his family, could never really
be a man.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The longer you hang with Leslie, the more surprised you
are with all the different voices he.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Can conjure up at the moment. Man, that's pretty good exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
To be well versed, well varied, You.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Do not have to connect too many dots to understand
why I love Jim Carrey so much growing up. The voices,
the accent, the faces.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The only one, the only one I ain't come any
close to it was alone, you know, absolutely, I tell you.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, people do because they want to do.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You got to do married.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Wouldn't mind marrying me too much?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You do that line?
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Remember when he proposes to her, He goes, I was
wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me too much?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yo, I was like wondering, you know, what are you
doing the rest of your life? Like, you know, would
you marry me? You know, I'd absolutely be trilled.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You know, that's the only one I can handle.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Though.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hey, you know, and that's very appropriate.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
This is Philadelphia themes is there one of the two
Super Bowl teams.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So we've gone from The Godfather to Rocky.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah exactly once again.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
You know, it's like a historical movie tour through the
through the ages. I mean what that was in the seventies, right,
Godfather was in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And Rocky right yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I started, yeah, bro, I mean I mean we're period specific,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, there was it was also that you know, that
was when Star Wars came out too, yes, back in
the late seventies, early eighties, somewhere in there, because Rocky.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Came out face opera.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I was in Syracuse, still at Syracuse University when Rocky
came out the original one. And then let's see then
uh after that, I can't remember how and now it
was Johnny what's his name?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Cochran?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Not Cochrane, No, not Cochrane.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Jesus, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know when he was in the Vietnam Vet. Oh stallone,
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh ramble, thank you man, that's such an easy one.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Gone at all.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's hey, I needed a layup. I need you got
a layup on that conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I needed I need a little help there.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I was like going, I'm gonna make him an offree camera.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So the question is, will pistol pete will he make
Russ an offer that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'm going to make him an off camera.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, that's that's the question.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Or will the Steelers make him an offer that he
can't refuse? So it's very interesting to see how this
is going to break down, and as we move more
into the off season, how negotiations, you know, the only
thing I've got is Russ said at one point in
time they had started some preliminary talks. There have also
been other other people that have said the same thing,
So we're gonna have to wait and see. I wonder
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what Justin Fields is thinking, you know, I mean, you know,
you're sitting here in limbo, and could you go into
the off season as QB one.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
There's a lot there, you know, it would be exciting,
and if you're justin I would think.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, and all you have to do is
just keep working, Yes, keep working, right, you know. I
think that's the biggest thing, is like, hey, can you know,
just do my job and just let everything kind of
kind of just play itself out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You know, Wes and I were having pre production here.
We're talking and we got into talking about the number
of guys. Think about the number of guys, Max, You've
see in the NFL who once they arrive, think they've
arrived and that's it. And you're looking like, going, really,
I mean, you don't they're gifted with so much, you know,
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some of these guys that that you see, they're gifted
with so much athleticism, so many attributes and physical attributes
of power and speed and all these things, and then
they get on the pro level and it's like they
just stop growing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
They stopped trying to achieve. I've never understood that, have you.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I mean, I questioned it, But at the same time,
I mean I'm not surprised, right, I mean because I
feel like nowadays, like that intensity and that drive right
is not there for consistently right.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But why why wouldn't leave you when you get to
the pro level. Listen, I grew up in Buffalo, New York,
and this is you know, this is no Great Shakes
or anything like that, but starting around seventh grade, you know,
you can't lift in the in the winter. You know,
we couldn't afford to go into a gym and there
was no other lifting facility. I got some weights, but
I started, you know, stacking the weights in the garage
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and I'm lifting in the winner in an unheated garage.
And Hoopy can verify this because even when I tried
one time because it was so cold, I was like, ah, okay,
I've had enough, and she locked the door on me.
Can't zoukes man? I go, hey, mom, Hey, what are
you doing? You know, and and she I go, I'm thirsty.
I try to try to suck her run right, And
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all of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden, I
get this this door unlocking, and the door opens slightly,
and this glass of water handed out. Oh great, this
is gonna freeze before my next set. You know that's
a mercy, Mom.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I've lifted cold weights with no gloves. Mom. It's metal.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's it's like sticking to me.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Exactly, it's it's sticking to me.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
You remember, you remember Christmas story in a flag pole
and the tongue thing, the same thing exipt.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
There's a hand on a bar bell.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I can't get my hand off the bar.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, exactly. He brings some hot water before it freezes
to pour on my hand.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Oh man, was that? I remember how cold that was.
But you know that The point is you you've got
to have a desire. You've got to have a drive
to go above and beyond. You know that that just
is unmatchable to be able to get into the NFL.
It takes you know, again, some people are more gifted
than others, and I was obviously not one of the
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more gifted. But the work factor and plus playing offensive
line is that's the one place where you can go
to where it's more heart than anything else than just
physical attributes.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, Welf, your era, my era.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
A little different.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, no, here's the similarity.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
They don't they are ancient compared to this current era,
meaning yeah, we are. We are now in the era
of personal private training at young ages, specialized, focal you know,
focus based training. You know, money is being tossed for
(09:56):
I mean, heck, you know they're going to start getting
n I L in high school.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
So you know, the.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Struggle factor, the drive factor, that grit resiliency factor is
being more and more diminished because now it's you know,
I equate it to like basketball and everything. They call
it the AAU club culture. The same thing for sports,
like a sports specific training. You don't have to play
multiple sports, you don't have to really engage. You pick
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one track and that's the only track. And then there's
all these things that are available to you now that weren't.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Available to us.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
You can go online and watch specific sports training videos,
you know, and do some do your own little footwork
drills or whatever, and once you get a scholarship offer,
it's like, okay, I'm good like that internal drive. It's
more fewer and far between than it was as greatly
abundant as when we played.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, I literally remember telling my mom I would
play for you know, room and board. I mean that's
when I first started. I mean, obviously that's uh, you know,
it's not something that's gonna last long, but you know,
certainly that's that's really all I felt like, man, just
just let me.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
That's the mindset. Well, that's the mindset, right.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
But these kids today, I mean, one kid's nil transfer,
you know, one kid's nil transfer from Texas. It's just
because it's so ridiculous that this is, right.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Freshman quarterback at Michigan's making twelve million dollars and hasn't
even taken a snap yet.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
What incentive do you have to.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Work your tail off every day when you're making eight
or twelve million dollars before you even take a collegiate
football snap.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well, think about this.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Quinn Ewers took a million dollars to go to ohiuse
they never played a snap, and then less for Texas
for more money.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Oh my goodness, you know what I'm saying. So when
that's when that's the options of Wolf.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I mean, heck, you know, you got two hundred k
just just you know, just by signing your letter of
intent to be in an O line room a University
of Florida, each offensive line was making about two hundred k.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I not to mention, they've probably they all now have
YouTube and TikTok and social media accounts that they make money.
They've got hundreds of thousands of followers that they make
money from.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Right now, we got to go, Jim mora, are you
kidding me? Exactly? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Instantly?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Instant instantly, I was having hockey punk cheeseburgers two hundred
k instantly?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I love that commercial. That's so well Jim Moore, Jim
Morri just cracks me up.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I just but you know, I think that's a big
part of it, though, is that they think that money
is never gonna stop, because if you know, you start
getting the nil and the social media influence and the
money from that too, from hundreds of thousands of followers
on TikTok and YouTube, you start getting that when you're sixteen, seventeen,
eighteen years old, you just think that's the way it's
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gonna be like, even if I don't make it to
the league, Even if I get to the NFL and
I only last a couple of years, it's fine because
look at all these other ways.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'm making money now. I think a lot of times
when that.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Visibility from football or basketball or baseball or hockey or
whatever goes away, then that money starts to dry up too.
But I think a lot of that is just when
you're that age, you think the way that you live
and the way you're treated it's perpetuity. Well, I know
you think you can live like this, you ever make
this money forever, eat like this, act like this. It's
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like the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Do you think of Matthew McConaughey wants to chime in here,
But I had no way.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Back in the seventies, I had an I gave me
twenty bucks for pizza, and I thought, is this legal?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Am I gonna get in trouble?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
If he would have given you that twenty bucks for
pizza every single day, you know, maybe you wouldn't have
been as hungry, and you would have thought, you know what,
I'm never gonna have to worry about food.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You'll be fine. You think about that run down to
the varsity.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's that was the big you know, restaurant pizza shop
on campus.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know, I'm like, my guy's going and give me,
give me a pizza. Give me a pizza, man, Just
a slice, just a slice. No, I want the whole.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Thing, man, I want I mean, I want the whole thing.
But I'll take just a slice.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
We gotta start with a warm up here.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's like it's like it's a gateway you got. You
gotta build up to the favor. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You gotta start with just a slice and then you go, okay, Well,
I mean, if you're gonna cut one slice, I have
a whole pie.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Why didn't you give me the whole pie so you
don't have to cut it. I don't even need you
to cut it. I'm just rolling up and eat it
like a burrito. You know, I'll help you out. Well,
that's why we had you know that.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Exactly, Yeah, that is true. We did all right, found
and you got it named after you.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Absolutely all right. Coming up, we got Jim Nolan, I'm sorry,
we got Jerry Dulac. We got the Cool Breeze because
he's down in Florida, and I talked to my mom yesterday.
My mom went to Florida and uh, she says, it's
like summertime.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Ooo.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Does that sound nice? All right, we're going to break.
We'll be back with more. You're listening to the Steelers
Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
brought to you by acro Sure, the official insurance and
Cybersecurity partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, by Bett MGM, Huntington Bank, PNC, PEPSI,
and by FedEx. Where now meets next? Now he is
Craig wolf Lee and Max Starks.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
All right, you know you hear that sound? You know
it is time for the cool breeze.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Of course, not too blustery down in sunny Florida, but
then again, it was snowing last week down there. Jerry
is brought to us by Chipke's Cafe Too in the
historic South Side Enjoy five for fifteen dollars, cores light
buckets during all the pins games like the one last
night against Utah, catch all the games on their sixteen
TVs and tried the newest HOGI addition the Chupka original.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
How are we Jerry? How is how is fla home
my home state?
Speaker 8 (16:41):
Well, Max, the sun is bright, the sky is blue,
and the breeze is just delightful. So it can't get
a whole lot better at seventy one degrees. And you'll
be shocked to know that I am heading to one
of those golfing clubs.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh you don't say I, did you not? Jerry?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Jerry, Jerry? Do we need to intervene here? Are you? Okay?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I am making the drive. I spent a couple of
days in Orlando, but you know, of course, very well, Max,
with my darling daughter it was her birthday yesterday.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
And thank you driving down to Jupiter and meeting one
of my buddies, and then I'm going to spend a
couple of days there at his place, and then I'll
be coming back on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
So I'm going to tee it up for a few days,
which is uh, you know, as you know, it is
always high on my priority.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Then, yeah, absolutely, Now are you now? Are you hitting
grow twenty three?
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Yle?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
You down there? Have you gotten that invitation?
Speaker 8 (17:48):
No? No, but I thank you for asking. But I'm
just right up the road from there, and but no,
I have not been there. One of my friends has
been there, but now I have not played there and
I didn't get the invite.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Okay, okay, me neither. So when you do, just pass
it along with me. I'll photocopy it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Jerry, I guess I'm sorry, buddy.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
I don't have Michael now. I'm just gonna say I
don't have Michael on my speed now, so I'm not
sure I'm going to be getting the inviting go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, Jerry, I got to ask you, in all seriousness,
what's the protocol when you got an alligator on the course.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know, I'm just saying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If I got one of those bas legged lizards looking
at me, I'm thinking maybe I leave the ball.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Here's a protocol, wolf, don't run in a straight line
when an alligator is chasing you, because they're straight lines.
There's straight line speech. A little bit quicker, a little
bit faster than Derrick Henry when he goes when it
goes between tackle and guards. Better give a little zigzag,
you better use a little Mr Kifts if you can't
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to use some football parlance.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
But what if you're Saquan and you could just run straight,
really really fast for sixty one yards.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Well, that's an you know, that's an option. Then you
got them beat. But even cuts into the middle of
the field as we saw last week and play number one.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
That that is true. That is true. That is true.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So yeah, yeah, definitely zig Zaggs confuse an alligator. I
will confirm that because we did have an entire like
a lake right in the middle of our campus where
they actually you know, took care, studied and u and
grew alligators on the University of Florida campus.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
So, you know, Max, I spent a lot of time
down at Kiwa Island that I learned a lot about
the alligators that there. And when you see them, you know,
when they're sitting out on the bank kind of in
the sun. They're actually they told me they do that
when they're ready to eat, you know, and I don't
mean humans, I just mean whatever it is they feast on.
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They come out and sit in the sun on the banks. Uh,
when they're when they're preparing to heat.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I wouldn't be surprised because they're cold blooded critters, and
cold blooded needs a lot of rest in between exertions,
Like if they take down a deer or something like that,
they need a lot of rest to recover. Their systems
are a lot different. Wow, anyhow, I was just wondering.
But okay, so let's just say, what if there's an
alligator there and you you can you pick up your
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ball and then move on and it's okay, it's co
pastic or what.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I'll tell you what I do. I don't have a
damn about the rules. I got a number of years
to go down at Kiwa. I was over on the
left side by the water in a trap, and the
guy who lives there, he goes, he goes, he's knocking
a body. You don't worry about it. And I go, that's okay,
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I ain't playing that one lift lift the play in
other day. I don't care. I'm not worried about the
rules of golf. Right then.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Well, and also, I mean, at the end of the day,
I'm here for my enjoyment.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I don't want to be stressed.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
The only stress I want to have is how many
shots will to take me to get out of the bunker.
You know what I'm saying, Like that's the height of
my stress level? Or when's the cart girl coming back around?
Cycle order another transfusion? You know what I'm saying like
I'm not. I don't want to think about my life
and well being from from a personal attack standpoint.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
When I'm playing.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Golf, yeah, I want to be able to play the
next day with two legs, not half.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah, coming straight from the emergency room, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh gosh, Well, Jerry, let me ask you. I'll slide
it over the little football stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I wanted to ask you about your opinion you're getting
read these contradicting reports between is the are the Raiders
putting the band back together in Vegas? Will that include
because they've got the OC Darryl Bebble, who is of course,
that was Russ's OC for so many years, almost sick
years out in Seattle and they had good success. But
you know, the question is did Russ go West? Or
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is there going to be something else?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You know?
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Well, I don't know the exact answer to that question
just yet, because it's too early in the process, not
that early where the Steelers are going to start actual negotiations,
if in fact that's where they want to go. The
bigger question, at least immediately as far as they're concerned,
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is deciding which quarterback they want now to me, just
on the surface, and to me, you would just expect
it to be justin fields because of the age difference.
That being said, they saw the success they were having
with Russell Wilson, and I will tell you as of
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the last couple of days, whereas before I thought it
was probably pretty much I don't want to say a
slam dunk that it would be justin fields, But after
the last couple of days, I'm not gonna sit here
and tell you that Russell Wilson is is out of
the equation in Pittsburgh. So but you know, it's what's
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funny now is what's it going to cost? Because now
you know, no matter how you slice it, and whether
you think it's crazy or not, Russell Wilson is now
a Pro Bowl quarterback, right And so you look at
you look at what the you know, the franchise tag
is for a quarterback, and so if you're thinking what's
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it going to cost to keep them, then you have
to start with that number and times it by two
at the very least, because it would be a two
year deal at the very least, and not not much
more than three.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And so.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
You know, justin fields will cost uh, you know, a
few Shekels, but not as much as Russell Wilson. And
and let's face it, I'm sure that will factor into it,
uh to some degree. Uh, but there's no question with
Pete Carroll in Vegas that seems like the natural landing squad.
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But I can't speak to what's on their mind and
what they think they want to do.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean, and that I think that that's one
of the things.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right, you engage it, you start these contract talks, and
then while you start these contracts, you find out.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
That Russell Wilson gets gets named to the Pro Bowl. Uh.
You know how how you know, how how how.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Much tougher does that become even though you started this
engagement before that, but then that comes apparent afterwards? I mean,
how tough in the process is that in the negotiation
because you I imagine they started at a very different
number and then that comes out and you know, as
they say, yesterday's number is not today's number.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
How tough is that.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
To negotiate with when you when you get something like
that thrown on you in the middle of the negotiations.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Well, the only thing I will say is they're not
only not not in the middle of negotiations. They're really
not even at the beginning of the negotiations that the Steelers.
I'm sure have some number that they're thinking of, but
they haven't started seriously negotiating at all.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
They want to make the determination and and and I
got to think that they know which way they're going
to go, but nobody's been told the players otherwise or
otherwise which way they're going to go. So I don't
think that all of a sudden, the Pro Bowl throws
a wrench into it, but it now gives if they
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need one. It now gives Russell Wilson and his people.
Uh you know that's another uh you know, that's another carrot.
And they're so But in terms of what we're talking
about here with the Steelers, they haven't gotten to that point.
So it's not like it's throwing a French right now
into the negotiations.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well got it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
While you're down there, I got to ask you, are
you going to take in any of the participation Bowl
week stuff?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
I mean, the good news the good news wolf as
I was leaving Orlando just in time for the beginning
of all that particle participation. So, uh, I'm not gonna
be right if that's what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I am.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
I am not, nor would I even take to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I hate to say, you know, I gotta say one thing.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
You you were around when the Pro Bowl meant something,
you know, and and it just it just to me,
it just seems like such a I don't even know
how to describe it. It's like a variety show that
you're coming up with rather than honoring, you know, the
Pro Bowlers.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Well, if you're right about that, and so with all
due respect, because I like the guy and he deserves
every award he's ever received. But so now Russell Wilson
has ten Pro Bowls on his resume, Well, does he
really have a Pro Bowl season on his resume or
was he just one of the few left standing who
might be willing, you know, after the guy's canceled out
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and other injuries. You know how far down the pecking
order is he and so you know, it's it's you know,
it's hard to say he was a Pro Bowl quarterback.
And yet you know, in twenty twenty four, yet it
will count on his record that he made the Pro Bowl.
And yeah, it's just not the same. Well, there's no
question a lot doesn't mean nearly, oh not even a
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fraction as much as he used.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
To if you ask me, you know, just to follow up.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Back in my day, it was winner got ten, loser
got five. Now you have one conference that winning team
gets eighty eight thousand and the losing team gets forty
four thousand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
That was above my salary, my rookie year man.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Yeah, and I get you know, hey, the guys get done,
they treat them like royalty. They have a lot of
fun and everything. They make a few extra coins. I mean,
good for them, but you know in terms of what
does it mean, you know, and that's why they have
to pay the guys some tip money like that, because otherwise,
why would anybody even want to go, you know, so
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especially if you have any kind of injury.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, it's one of those things that I look at
it and I'm just like, this is, you know, kind
of kind of crazy when you think about it. You
know that that it's the only professional sport that does
not have a true competitive game to it, right, I mean,
you know, we kind of talked about this earlier in
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the week, Jerry, but you know, NHL, NBA, MLB all
have an actual simulated game. Now, how much defense is played,
you know, and how competitive it is that could be
left to be determined.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
But there's always something on the line.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
You know, the winner gets the home jersey or home
field advantage in in the World Series or you know,
and obviously the higher seed gets that. So I mean
there's usually something on the line for it with games
surrounded skills, challenges surrounded around it. But when it comes
to the NFL, it seems like it's the furthest thing
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from actual football and what they do on an actual
professional level. Yes, they play a flag football game that
looks like backyard style football, but then they have all
these ancillary games dodgeball and water balloon fight, I don't know,
you know, really really aggressive tag. I mean, it's one
of those things where, you know, do you even see
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the I mean, is it even worth putting on a
Pro Bowl if it's.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Not really a Pro Bowl?
Speaker 5 (29:56):
To to say and that now it's just pretty much
like a glorified field day.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Well, yeah, and that's that's all it is, Max, And
I guess you know for us too, at least, you know,
we're around and grew up kind of with a Pro
Bowl game, and now you see this, But the youth
of today, they don't know what that is. All they
know is they see their stars out there doing something
kind of athletic related and and maybe the league they
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don't care. Apparently the league doesn't care, or maybe they
you know, it's it's kind of like golf with the
simulator now in the TGL. You know, that's that's targeted
for a young audience. And so maybe they figure with
with what they do here with flag football and everything else. Okay,
maybe they're just drawing in the young people who want
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to come see their stars, whether it's you know, walking
down the runway, you know, or standing out there playing dodgeball.
That that's that's the only advantage or only marketing ploy
that I can see in terms of just trying to,
you know, again keep the young people invested or interested
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in the game. But anybody who cares anything about football,
and like us, grew up with the Pro Bowl, we
could give two hoots about any of those activities and
the gathering, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, Jerry, we want to make sure we keep your
tea time and your warm up time in tact, we
want to protect that special space for you. So we
are going to let you go, and remember, swing them
straight and keep your score low and watch out for
the gators.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Fellas a lot of good a lot of good golf talking,
our gathering, and I appreciate it little football talk. And
I hear you have the show next week, so I'm
afraid we'll be getting back together then as well.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Well good, we appreciate, no afraid, we look forward to it.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
And we're so thankful Jerry for the time time that
you that you give to us in between rounds and
traveling in sunshine weather when you have a minute.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
You know, anytime.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Boys, all right, all right, thanks Jerry.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
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Speaker 6 (32:42):
On one of those buckets with those those drinky poos
in them that you've been talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean we could take the course light. I mean,
let's tap the Rockies.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean, if not, you know, I'm sure West wouldn't mind,
you know, a couple a couple of the bats on
top of that if you want to go between. Yeah,
you know, little honor to the to the great, to
the great guy at number eighty seven, Sydney Crosby, we'll
drink in his honor, you know. But if not, we're
always willing to take Colorado specialty. So with that we
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will step aside. We'll be back with more here inside
the Locker Room on the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Wolfley and Max Starks.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And it's time for Word of the day, and the
word of the day is taraquious.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, okay, Chancellor, almost.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
But not not quite. Terra terra, tarodactyl ter aqueouski, yeah, triceratops.
It is consisting of or formed of land and water,
which is an interesting combination to use in a verbage.
We hired a landscaping company to install tarraquiaus features in
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the backyard.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Of our new house.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Or she followed the taraquious path through the swamp until
she reached the sandy beach. Or watch your step. This
is ground is tarraquius, and you're not wearing boots.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
So that's how you would use it.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I go back when I hear that, It takes me
right back to my seventh and eighth grade beginnings in
intramural football. And we had a tarrequious field. It was
it was. It had stones, it had cow holes, it
had everything in it that you didn't want. And so
there you go, humble beginnings from the very beginning when
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I entered into my first football competition organized That would
be in the seventh grade in intramural football.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
How about that, Max, Uh, I'm still not quite sure
what isquias.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Its land and water, rocky fields, that sort of stuff,
you know, like a rocky beach is a tarraquious beach.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
So it's like a terrarium. It's like.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Could be with tarantula's and.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Uh, antriceratops there.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yes, yeah, we got all kinds of stuff there. I
think we're just.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Kind of yeah, exact turtles, you know everything. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I can't even think of I guess hopefully Jerry does
not knock his ball into a tyraquius terrain so that
he might have to fish it or leave.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It exactly, or that's hope he doesn't come in contact
with a tarracuous lizard.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
A prehistoric tarraquious lizards.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yes, there you go, all right, exactly to the gator exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
So now we got the Participation Bowls, like somebody named
it that the Participation Bowl, you know, I mean that's
the flag footballs, Yeah, exactly wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
The winnings, the.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Winnings eighty eight thousand, Max, My goodness, I mean, what.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Is that per player? Is that for the whole team?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
No, that's per play. Okay, that's that's like ridiculous, forty
four for We were playing for five and ten back
in our day, you know, and guys were going all
out on the fields, crazy you know, but well we
got Pat Queen is now a pro bowler. He was
called into substitute for rokwand Smith. Who rokwand Smith came
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into substitute for Pat Queen in Baltimore. You know, Boom
knocked him out and brought him back. But what do
you think about that?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Max?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, I guess, yay, you have.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
To go for the money. You just have to, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I mean, yeah, why not?
Speaker 5 (37:27):
I mean, that would be something that I would say
is definitely, you know, a very good chunk of change.
I mean, you've got to entice him somehow. But like
I said, I mean, when you're eighteen years old and
you're making you know, six figures, what is five figures
as a professional making six seven figures?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
How could you bypass eighty eight grand?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Though?
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Come on, I mean listen, listen, you're preaching to the
choir wolf.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh yeah, right right.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
But there's a reason why we got so far down
the line of why so many additional guys gott gotta yeah,
I mean so apparently apparently somebody was like, nah, not enough,
I'm not getting off the couch for this.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
What I mean, I would have been there quick fast
in a hurry. I would have. I would have been
there before.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
The actual ink actually dried on me, confirming it, you
know what I'm saying. And I would stayed at my
mom's house just to save money, just in case. Make
sure they don't charge me for room service that I
never ordered. You know what I'd been like, I want
every single dollar account for guys. Make sure it makes
sure make the checkout M A X. I would spell
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every letter until you get it finished. Well, think about it.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Back Queen led the Steelers with one hundred and twenty
nine tackles, six tackles for loss, seven passes broken up,
one sack, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yet there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
People that say the splash wasn't big enough to counteract
the contract.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I mean, but once again, I mean, you know, I
think the biggest thing that people kind of forget is,
you know, there is a certain level of acclamation that
that that's needed before a guy can can be super effective.
And I think for Pat, you know, I thought I
thought Pat performed excellently. You know, in the moments where
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we really needed him, he showed up and showed out.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
You know, he had a good Dirror, I thought, you know,
I mean, yeah, well, the one thing was I you know,
and he was not alone. He didn't play that well
in the Baltimore game, and you know there's everybody's got a.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Hand in that one.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that did not play well,
There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I was just watching some of the film last night,
you know, just going over it and kind of seeing
what's going on and everything, trying to understand what the
whole RPO problem was, because they've they've rpoed Lamar Jackson
so many times. I mean, come on, you know, they've
they've had that knuckle down and h The one thing
about it was when they put Justice Hill in.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Motion and moved the linebackers.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's where the one thing I noticed was they go
in pre snap motion and it caused some of the
linebackers to move, and I think.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Some got a little bit out of position, it looked like.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But regardless, you know, that's that's neither here nor there anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
But Pat Queen, go ahead. I'm sorry, buddy, No, I.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Was just gonna say, I mean, you know, a lot
of a lot of guys got got into that that
same conundrum. Wolf and I mean, you know, it's like
there's a reason why, you know, Lamar is who he is.
You know, he presents that and he presents it at
a very high level, and that's what makes him so
tough to defend. But like you said, you know, at
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the end of the day, everybody had that problem.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Well, he's joined by
his teammates. Let's see, we've got not only Pat Queen going,
but we got Miles Killerbrew, Isaac Siuamalo and Russe Wilson
were also added as replacements.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
The original Pro Bowlers were t J.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Watt, Camward and Minka Fitzpatrick, as well as the Wizard
of boz And they were all of course honored as
Pro Bowlers in the combined balloting by the players, the coaches,
you know, and fans, but TJ. Watt will not participate,
which more leads me to the thought that, you know,
he really was dinked up in that Baltimore game, you know, especially,
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and I tend to think that he might have been
a little more dinked up in the last.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Four games than we knew in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, no, and I completely agree.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
I think this was something that we were like, Okay,
you know, he tough threw it and he tried to
make the best out of it, but at the end
of the day, you know, it just it was something
that was just.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
A little bit too great to overcome. And you know,
I mean for TJ.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
You know, he's a very prideful person, right, He's not
going to do anything lightly, and so you know, this
was something where you know, you appreciate the efforts, but
you also realized, hey man, you know, we get it.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
We get it. We appreciate you being a war daddy.
We appreciate you going out there and fighting. But you know, I'm.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Glad that you're taking your health seriously.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Okay, that's a wrap on
the first hour of In the Locker Room right here.
We will be back with more as the Possession arrow
swings to Max and Optimists will become riding on by.
But you've been listening to In the Locker Room with
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