January 27, 2025 • 48 mins
Max and Wolf react to Championship Sunday and catch up with Rob King to touch on all the latest offseason news.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
As the most assass as.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Wilfley and Max Starks.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh yeah, well, it's the penultimate week, as Wesley pointed out,
to the Super Bowl, which means that it's now the
Pro Bowl Games not game, but Games presented by Verizon,
kicks off on Thursday, January thirty with the Skills Showdown
in Orlando, Florida. Wesley, what.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
We got? We gotta get Wesley's take because this happened
off air.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But what what was some of the skills competitions?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
If I thought you were going to start rolling some
of them out and then we'd do the joke and
then we.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Do the bit, right, Max, I mean I don't it.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Well, here was the joke where Wolf is like, all right,
what's the skills showdown in the Pro Bowl? And Max
and I are like, Oh, they play dodgeball, they do
throwing competitions, catching, they do different you know, different obstacle
courses and everything, and Wolfe's kind of shaking his head
and I go, you know, like, who can build a
pillow for it the fastest?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Wolf looked at me like it shocked me because
I really thought that was happening.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I no, No, that's just what my daughters and I
do in the living room on weekends.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
But I got I got Wolf.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Good, showing once again that that humor doesn't really work
Monday mornings.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
For me.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I'm a little bitou Three more cups of coffee, Max,
and he'll be there.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There you go. How you doing, Max?
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Yeah, I am Yeah, I'm doing good. Yeah right, uh yeah,
uh huh yeah, we're here. Uh. It was just like
thinking about the prep like, oh, it's Pro Bowl week.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
I'm like, wait a second, it's Pro Bowl Challenges Games week.
It's not really Pro Bowl week. It's not the Pro
Bowl that you and I are accustomed to. It is
the New Age Pro Bowl. And gosh, you know, I
was thinking about this Wolf, which we talked about this affair.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
You know, it was.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Does the Pro Bowl really matter to the league, to
players anymore?
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Because it's so far from.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
The game that we used to see right, you know
where you you had the honor of going over to Hawaii,
and there were competitions throughout the week build up for
the game.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Right.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
Remember there's the Strongest Man competition, the obstacle course, the
kicker challenge, the quarterback challenge, and then you had like
and then you had like the wide receiver catch chat challenge.
Like you had all of these like fun events open
to the public.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
And it was a week of celebration.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
And it happened after the Super Bowl, so that the
team that won the Super Bowl and the team that
also competed in this the other team that competed, they
usually had the largest concentration of Pro Bowl players. Correct,
Usually the teams that are doing they would have the
largest concentration, so those guys would get to participate.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
You'd get to be honored. You know. I remember when
we won the five Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
In Detroit, super Bowl forty and I went out to
the Pro Bowl the week after and got to see
my teammates.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
This celebrated.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Was that the year that you were on the you know,
the all second.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
You know, yeah, yeah, I was I was.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Another Yeah, we're second alternates were second alternati second.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's what ties this together.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
We both yeah, exactly, we're both second alternates, like three years.
So you know, I was out there and you know,
I remember seeing, you know, because there was there was Peasy, Joey,
Porter Troy, there was let's see Alan Marvel, Jeff Harding's Jerome.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
And I think that was it.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
There, Ben Ben was Ben didn't become a Pro Bowl
until later because that was that was when like Peyton
and Tom, you know, just hogged all the Pro Bowl bids.
And I want to say I think there was one
more than I'm just forgetting because I don't think Pazzi
(05:44):
made it that year.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
James Fear. I think James made it that year, and okay,
but yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
But anyways, that was still I mean still we had
six guys and I just remember sitting in the stadium
that week or that game day back this is the tradition,
this is what we've known is Pro Bowl, and I
just remember sitting there and when they announced those guys,
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I just remember getting on my feet because they were
the last last group announced and it was announced and
from the Pittsburgh Steelers, You're Super Bowl forty champion Pro
Bowl players, and the whole crowd went crazy everybody's still
on their feet. The players clapped, and I just remember
how cool that was, and I said that, you know,
to myself, it was like, man, I would love to
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be in that position one day.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
That would be so awesome. And then everything changed.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Then it was like, well, we don't want to waste
this week, and you know we don't. We want to
keep momentum going, so we're moving the Pro Bowl the
week before. And then now a majority of guys now
have to have to decline the Pro Bowl. You know,
you accept the bid, it still goes on your resume
even though you don't participate in it.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
And then now and then the land.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Of Alternates came, and unfortunately that was after my bid
of second alternates.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
See back in my day, everybody wanted to go because
the money was big, I mean near the money that
that has made today. So part of that, you know,
part and parcel was to win the game because that
was a big paycheck in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Yeah, that was that was a huge little chunk of
change that you didn't account for. That was like okay, yeah,
no idea, I could use all that, you know, and
you know, I just I And then it went from that,
then it was a non competitive game, and then it
was full of alternates because all of the main guys
you wanted to see, especially at like quarterback and you know,
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pass rusher and all this stuff, you know, became you know,
the other guys. And I just remember it just kind
of evolving. And then when I went when when Marquise
when Pouncey made it, he flew, he flew the entire
offensive line out for his first and I just remember how.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Cool it was.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
And full disclosure, we're in the stadium right Hawaii, and.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Uh, you know what happens. I mean, pouncing. Pouncing was awesome.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
So Pouncy got us guys like a little bus to
take us, to take us all. So it's just the
old line and so we turned into a party bus, right,
I mean, that's what you'd actually do.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
And so we get there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
How many of you guys went, It was it was
nine of us.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Because Posy was playing, so everybody else was there. Oh no,
this is a guy's trip.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay, So that's that's start to find and whittle this
thing down.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Yeah yeah, let let's set the seat.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
So we get we get there on Monday, and you know,
Pouncy gets us uh gets us rooms at the same hotel.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
We're out at Cooalina and.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Village No No, because they had moved it to Kohalina,
to the other side of the island because they because
the NFL could take up more hotels and it was
more you know, it was more secure, they could protect
it better.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
So we're out there.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
And we all we all we all fly in on
the same flight, so I I you know some of them.
There are pictures in circulation with with with amongst our
teammates of us on the flight there, and we're all
sitting all near each other and we are we are
just we're buying drinks for everybody on the plane.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Like we're at a bar.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
So mind you, we're going there and now you know,
it's six hour time difference, and so we we've been
drinking for about five out of the available six hours
uh this flight. And we get there, get you know,
get our bags, and we get to the hotel. We
(10:00):
don't even check into our rooms. We go straight to
the bar and yeah, and we finish off, well, we
didn't get to finish on the plane because obviously there's
a limit, you know, and they ran out.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Of stuff really quickly.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Where there, Possey comes and meets us. Then Pouncy hangs
out with us for a little bit. Uh Pousy, you
know did really get partakes because he still got to
go to practices and everything. You know, we have no responsibility.
Our season is over. We are we are in full
vacation mode. All of us have Hawaiian shirts on, like
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we are we we we we have come to conquer
the island of Hawafu. And so yeah, so we so
we get there and all the different NFL guys you know,
are covered to the bar, so everybody saying hello to everybody,
Like Richie Incognito came by and yeah, exactly, you know,
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I mean, you know, and then Mike Pouncy, uh, Marquise's
brother came because because Mike, Mike I think, was a
rookie that year, it was our second year.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Pouncing made it his second year, I believe.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
And so so yeah, so we're all there, we are
having a ruckous time.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
We eventually check into our room and then then I
were like, man, well where are we going?
Speaker 8 (11:21):
So we got to get down to Honolulu, and so
we ended up getting getting getting like a van service
to take us down there.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
We have it.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
We have a very good time. Then uh you know,
potato potato, I mean, listen, whatever we got in it
turned into a party.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
We just needed we just needed wheels, baby, That's all
we needed.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
We just needed wheels.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
And so, you know, we get up and that whole
week we're just and then you know, we're just hanging out.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And we went out on Honolulu.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
And there was like a senior Frogs or something, I
can't remember, you do something like that, and we went
in there. We tore it down, We did some shopping.
Everybody got had puka beads by the end of the day.
And then you know, and then of course and then
of course Juice, you know Chris Katu, you know, he's
him and his brother like the Kings of Hawaii.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
So so there was like there.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Was like we went to concerts and parties and we
get to we get to Pro Bowl Sunday and we
roll up to the stadium. Mind you, one of our
teammates I'm not going to say any names, decided.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
That, you know, dude, we should do we should do
some hair.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Of the Dogs and some Bloody Mary's before we get
on the bus.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
At the bar, so we do it.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Problem was somebody wanted to take shots along with that.
Now I don't advise this, nor am I condoning it,
but it happened, So I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Just reporting history. We had we had to weeke in at.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Bernie's one of my teammates onto the bus in alignment,
gotcha okay.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
And we get we get to the stage.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I have an idea, but I'm just exactly exactly.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
So we get in the stadium, we find our seats,
we sit down, and I had a faux because you know,
they were because I had not looked at the Pro bowlers.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I just knew I wasn't on it right.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
And so I'm there and they and they called a
certain individual's day.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
It was Andrew Whitworth when he was still with the Bengals.
This is, you know, way well before his ran right
swan song.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
And I I go, how the hell did he make you?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Who are sitting next to.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
His whole entire family?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I was I was hoping I was wrong.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Oh no. They turned around and I'm sitting next to
the Weekend at Bernie's teammate and I just point to him.
I point to him. I'm so sorry, he's.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh my goodness, what a moment.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Oh god, Oh yeah, the whole everybody's got like seventy
nine Beagles jerseys on to Fredery. Mind you, I had
zero by awareness was at an all time low at
that moment.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Uh So I pointed to my teammates that I'm.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
So sorry, he's he's two sheets to the wind, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
So now we don't have those type of moments anymore
because there's no longer football being played.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think it's a shame, you know, really, and the
ability to be able to display skills in a game
of football, which is what it's all about, to do
anything even slightly you know, different, is weird. It's like
I said, why don't you combine like I don't know,
maybe maybe a week of the sea in your bowl
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or a hula ball that they used to have where
you have college kids that come in and play a
game where you lay it on the line because it
means something to their future. And you have that ability
to entertain enjoy the sport of football done so by
people that really want to play, that really have the
opportunity to display their wares to you know, professional scouts
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and so forth and then you know, you have a
great game that wraps up for Pro Bowl Pro Bowl Week,
and you got the Pro Bowlers there to you know,
I don't know, just kind of co mingle with the
college All stars. It just to me seems like a
natural thing.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean that that would be I think, and
I think it would be more meaningful because, like you said,
you would have kids trying to do this, and you
could almost make the Pro Bowlers like pseudo coaches, right, sure,
absolutely position coaches in there, they participate, and then they
would do like skills challenges alongside these college kids.
Speaker 10 (15:56):
During that week, right that could be any of that
stuff that you want to you know what I'm saying,
make it more competitive, Yeah, yeah, to make it more
competitive than it is, because right now, it's just it's
it's a display.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
And I know, you know, listen, I sat in on
that call when we when they first transitioned to these games,
and they were asking for player input, and you know,
I'm like, I'm like, first of all, how did I
get picked for this? Because I'm like, I've only been
a second ulton that I've never made it to the game.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
In the one year I thought I was about to
make it to the game.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Willie Anderson, who was on IR no mind you, he
was on I R for most of the season.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He got picked.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
He got picked and he accepted. I was like, dude,
you hadn't even played. I was like, I was so mad.
Oh I was so mad, Oh wolf I was. I was.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I can say one of the few times outside of
the Andrew Whitworth thing where I.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Like cursed out loud. I was like, are you are
you beeping kidding me?
Speaker 8 (16:55):
So so yeah, so so so yeah. So I'm sitting
on the ed like, oh yeah. And you know, and
a certain player that's a defensive back that you know
everybody calls them zesty and everything else. His initials are
j R. A defensive back position. He might be down
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Anyways, he gets a oh, I think this is great,
but you know, you know, these games is just a
little bit too much for this. And I just remember
saying to the call, I said, you're not playing a
game at.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The end of the day. It's games. Uh so this
is if you want to go, this is what you do.
And then you know, and then he.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Got all on the tizzy and he was, well, how
many have you participated, I said, I said I wanted to.
I said, I don't know if I want to participate
in this version of it, but I would have participated
in the old version.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Of it, So you're changing it.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So I was like, we're the only professional sport where
we don't play an actual game.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Now that's true, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean they all have their skills, competition and the
other things that surround their All Star game matches, but
it's in the actual play, you know, the game, that's
the enjoyment, that's the fun, that's the real for the people,
for the participants, for the you know. And I understand
that there's a high injury factor, which I think could
be mitigated, as it was in many ways by the
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players themselves because they, you know, the conduct was such that,
you know, they tried to take a lot of the
dangerous stuff. That's the one time that I can understand that,
all right, if you want to make a business decision,
that's okay, you know what I mean, that that would
be something acceptable. But even back I remember Jack Lambert,
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I believe it was Lambert that went to the Pro
Bowl one time, and Jim Haslett from the Bills, another
linebacker was there, and they went out the night before
the game until like I don't know, four or five
in the morning, and you know, they come back and
uh so they barely had any sleep at all, you know,
before the game kicked off, and Lambert went out in
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the first series, came back said, oh, I pulled a
hamstring and put and has to play the rest of
the game. The whole time. I'm not sure Amber Lambert
pulled the hammy.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Oh no, he didn't pull a hammy, but he did
pull a fast one.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I think that. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I mean, you know, guys, guys want to be out there,
Guys want to put. And you also have to realize
this is the only Pro Bowl games that's done at
the end of the season. Every other All Star game
is done in the middle of the season, right NBA
All Star Game, sorry, middle of season, they get a break.
MLB same thing where they get a break in the
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middle of the season. And you have the home run
derby and the game matters for who gets Game one
of the World Series and who's a home and away,
and you know, for jerseys for the first game, and
then you also have NHL right, the NHL Hockey, the
skills Challenge, and the game. So it's the only all
star game in professional sports that does not happened in
the middle of the season, and it's the only one
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that does not have a physical game. Yes, we have
games like dodgeball, okay, and flag football. What job can
offensive and defensive, well, defensive line still has a job.
What job does an offensive lineman have? In essentially glorified
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seven on seven? In fact, in international flag football rules,
you all the guys who are offensive linemen are also receivers.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah yeah, but let's go back to dodgeball. Okay, who's
most at risk at dodgeball? It's the hogs. Come on, Yeah,
that's like a slaughter bend. We can't do the five
d's of dodgeball.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Wolf, Okay, explain.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Yeah, five d's of dodgeball, dip duck, dodge.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Dodge, duck, dip, dive.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
And dodge dodge. Yeah, there we go, two dodges with
a dip, duck and a dive.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Oh my goodness, think about it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You've got six five, three hundred and fifty pound monsters
out there. They're not going to be real good at
dipping and ducking. Diving stuff like that, they.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Should throw that ball like it's a cannon. Baby.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well wait a minute, do you know what happens to shoulders?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
The problems receivers and DB's on the other side that
also catch cannons for a living. And a round ball
that's soft is a lot easier than an oblong ball
that's made of pigskin, you know, that's rifled at them
and more of a bullet like nature. That's the only
thing I worry about, Like, you have to like you
have to do double you have to do double hits,
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you know.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
And now I'm aiming for your head, you know, because
I'm like, because anywhere else is your catch radius, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, there's just
so many different areas. Yeah, so lineman, don't do well
in that, uh you know, in the in the in
the in the relay race competition, you got a shot
because you have to you have to like match up
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position for position equally on your team. So everybody has
to take a fat man. But we're like the last
kids picked. And like you know, when you pick basketball, right,
you're like, okay, uh, okay, which what do I want
Do I want the fat chubby kid that can't that
can't shoot, or do I want the uh the skinny,
tall kid who could shoot, but but he's but he
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acts like a baby giraffe on ice, right, you know
when he's out there on the basketball.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Like, we're like the land of forgotten toys at that
point when we get picked. But we do get picked,
and we do have a role, so that is nice.
But you know, we don't have the prowess of the
running backs and receivers and DB's and linebackers and all
that kind of stuff. Uh So so you know we're
we're like the awkward kid in the group.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Not to mention it's too easy to pick off big
guys like us. Actually yeah, not even like that, because
I'm not of any size compared to these guys the day.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Well, I mean paratively by generation, by garatively by generation.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
But here's the thing, Well, you would have done awesome
in the strong man competition.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I forgot what the strong man competition was.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Remember that that was one where you did the bench
press contest. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, because well I'm saying,
like back in back in like our era, like they
had a strong man.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
So you had who could who could do the bench
press the most squats and then you do like a
little obstacle. Course on top of that, you would have
done great, yeah, because you participated in the World's Strongest
Man competition, so this would be easy.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
This would be lightweight work.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
So it's like, you know, so it's like you don't
even really have that stuff anymore.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
So it's like, come on, I mean, it's so watered down.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
It's just but and now this has to be the
weekend between the Super Bowl too.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
On top of that, Yeah, well you've got to fit
it in. Now you've got to again in the NFL
is absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Going, you know, keep the momentum going.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Weekly news every every week. You know, there's something rolling out.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
And there's got to be a marquee event every month
in the business of football season.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
Absolutely hence why the end of February will be doing
the combine. Yeah, and I along with Matt Williamson and
Dale Lolly, I'm so glad you guys are doing it.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
I'm sure you are. Wolf.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
You can roll over in bed and hit the snooze
button when you hear the show come on.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I went there.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
When I went there years ago, they sent me and
I got to interview the top ten guys. So I
sat down with them and I and I and I
was just having a little bit of fun. So I thought,
you know what, I said, we're gonna get these testing questions.
So one of my questions was to the guys, going, Okay,
we're at the we're in Indianapolis. That's the home of
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the Indianapolis five hundred. Now the Indianapolis five hundred, Okay,
the track is two and a half miles around, all right,
how many times would you have to go around the
track to to get to the Indianapolis five hundred. There
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was like four or five guys that couldn't even come
close to an answer.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It was like it was like it's like two hundred
laps is what you know, but it's like.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You absolutely fried their brain.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well I I well, finally after four or four or
so couldn't do it. I said, we have to stop.
We can't do this.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
These kids, you know, this is just most stressful a
couple of days of their lives. They're being treated like
live stock, herded from place to place, in a in
a county fair and Wolf's like, by the way, how
many laps in? The idiot just slowing it.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Out there to have a little fun.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And these guys are flunking it left and right, and
I'm not going, Okay, we got to stop because I
don't want I don't want to embarrass these kids.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Last one.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I'll tell you my brother Ronnie, and you gotta you
gotta remind him of this, remind him of when he
went to the combine. Okay, because part of the combine
they had to walk out like a fashion model and
a jockstrap and nothing else in front of the jams.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
What are you talking about? I had to do the
same thing.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Did you do this? Oh I didn't even know that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah? Is that like awkward? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I would say so.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I mean and and now I can't you know, now,
like the guys coming there, you know, they still have
to get in their skivvies and still but but the
platform has changed now it's a it's like a horseshoe
circle and you walk up like this ramp to this
huge ear and you sit there in your drawers, you know,
And I'm just saying, you know, try to be kind
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about it. And you stand there, you do like you
you do the full circle so they get a good
look front and back, you know, mane and tail all
the way.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And then uh, and you lift your arms.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
They measure your wingspan the O, they measure your handspan,
they do your headside.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
And then they do your height.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
And then you walk off and you have how many
people are in the room at the time, I mean,
I mean, but there's thirty two gms that you're throwing,
thirty two assistant gms, so now you're up to sixty four, right,
and that's before you even get to the position coaches
and assist the position coaches, depending on which one it is. So,
but you look about one hundred and fifty people plus
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in this room staring at you not playing football.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh my goodness, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Yeah. It's always like, hey, can I wear like shower
shorts or sand? And oh I forgot, oh I forgot.
You get you get on the scale and.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
They check your weight too, and they call your weight
out loud to all these of course.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Of course, all right, that's the opening salvall in the
opening bell.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Here we.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Gotta go to break. We got the King are coming
up next, Rob King, The King is in the castle.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
We're back with more. You're listening to the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
This is the FAKA Room, presented by Ford and brought
to you by acro Shure, the official insurance and cybersecurity
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Wolfley and Max Stark's.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Oh, King in the castle, King in the castle.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
I have a chair, I have a chair.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh this go do this?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
King in the castle.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
And when you hear the King is in the castle,
all of us must been the knee just a little
bit to the will of the king, and that king
being mister Rob King. That's right, voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers,
but also accomplished author as well.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Kudos to you, sir. We pay we pay homage. We
pay homage to my liege. How are we doing today, Rob?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I'm great?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
Once again, Max and wolf I laughed during the four out.
I laugh every time. Maybe one of these years I'll
stop laughing for that enjoy I laugh every time and
then today today I reflect and reflected, you know, I
was thinking, like, when when do I ever say go.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Do this and anybody does it? Yeah, that just doesn't happen.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Well, hold on real quick, I gotta jump in here.
You guys will get a kick out of this. I
meant to tell you this this morning and it just
reminded me. Me and my buddies went and played pod
hockey yesterday for like three or four hours, like one
of my favorite things in the world. And there was
a group of like middle school high school age kids
who were already at the lake playing right And we
get down there and we're getting set up, and it
was really nice because they had the ice, the pond
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all cleaned off already, They had like three different areas
set up. It was it was field of dreams on
a pond right right. And I walked down and I go,
whoa hollua, And one of the kids, who had to
be twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, not very old, turns
around and goes Borett and I went yeah, and he goes,
I love that movie. I said, you know what, the
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kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Ohn excellent, ken Heer.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I gotta tell you my only experience with the castle.
One time we were in Germany and we went to
Newenstein and saw that castle that was the basis for
Walt Disney doing the Cinderella Castle and everything. And I'll
never forget going to the throne room and we were there.
The steps lead up probably I don't know, maybe thirteen
fifteen steps up to where the throne would be, but
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there was no throne because the guy never got the
thrown installed before he kicked King Ludwig was found. King
Ludwig the third of Bavaria went in to such deep
debt to pay for that castle. He might have well
maybe he got some money from the wrong people, if
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But he was found in.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
A lake with his personal physician, drowned in three feet
of water, though he was six foot three and know
nm to be a very good swimmer.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Go figure on that one. Huh.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting. But yes, if I were to,
if I were to have to marry to say go
do this, I would be met with why don't you
do it yourself?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
So much?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Nice to hear witch, nice.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
To hear borat you know, he's got a chair and
he's ready to roll.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
That is too funny. That's too funny.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Kinger, All right, we are we are barreling down towards
Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Uh did you catch any of the games yesterday? And
you're yes, sir.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
Well, Philadelphia is really good, you know, really good. Uh
so they're gonna be a handful for anybody.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
And you know, they played a high level both.
Speaker 11 (32:14):
You know, and then you know Washington wasn't quite ready
for that stage, right, But they're but they're they're they're
very promising.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Jayden Daniels is terrific.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
That was my takeaway from that game is the Eagles
are really good, really tough to beat.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Jade and Daniels is really good.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
And you know the other game, you know, another classic game.
And you know, we have these discussions all the time
about and I'm not going to say this cost them
the game, but the whole notion of chasing points and
taking points off the board. They clearly the Bills now
do not appear to have a very good you know,
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one yard play. They don't have the Toushbush, which I think,
if I recall correctly, the Eagles went for two and
didn't get it with a touchbush, I think, but you know,
the Bills wound up. I meant, this isn't the lead,
but the Bills wound up chasing points. So you don't
get the one point. Then you then you're chasing a
two point conversion. You don't get that. Now, had you
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had you just kicked the extra point in both those instances,
Kansas City, in turn wouldn't have gone for two. They
would have kicked the extra point. That would have been
the conventional thought. And now it's a three point game.
Well what was the margin? It was three points. Now
Mahomes probably gets a punt and takes it down the field.
They win anyway. But you know, that's one of those
things that that you know. I love analytics. I think
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it's got a great part in the game. I understand
why you do certain things. I'm not saying Sean McDermot,
who's a great coach, was leaning on analytics, but I
think there's some danger to chasing the point.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
So other than the fact that it.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Was another brilliantly played game and Mahomes is unbelievable, of course,
that one did. I thought from a football observers standpoint,
as we kind of enter into this new era where
everybody's going court like the Commanders did and do in
some interesting decisions. Well you know, they also went forward
and got it on fourth down. I got a touchdown too,
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So you know, it can't I can't have it both ways, right.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right, Well, the thing I will say, the chief stuff
three quarterback sneaks. You know, that's the most since what
nineteen or twenty sixteen? Yead zooks man, you know what
I mean. They just they just could not inch it enough.
That one from the overhead. I thought the last one
that I thought Josh could have gotten it, but I could.
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You know, it was really hard to tell, you know,
when you get those scrums, it's so very hard to
tell what happened.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, I agree, and you're right. It'll be interesting to.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
See if they have a defense with a touch push,
right if it comes to that. In the Super Bowl,
they figured out some way and the Bills didn't do it.
The Bills, you know, Allen tries to angle left off
tackle for some reason.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's that's the.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Way they run it. And there are a lot of people,
you know, howling about uh the officials.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
You know, I thought there were a bunch of uh
of questionable calls. But you know, I thought there was
a questionable call the Philadelphia Washington game when Barkley got
hit out of bounds. I mean, by the letter of
the law, I guess that's a penalty. But you know
what if Barkley, if you guys know the plan talking
about where the defender, you know, when he put his
left foot down Barkley.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
You know what if what if you're trying to ease back.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
I mean it's not it's not like the guy lit
Barkley up, but you're if you ease back and Barkley,
you know, stomps his foot in the ground, uh, and
cuts up the sideline, he's gonna run you over. So
what are you supposed to do as a defender. I'm
not really sure what you're supposed to do there except
try to angle him out of bounds. And then you know,
(35:48):
at that point, I think, uh, you know, contact is inevitable.
I thought Travis Kelsey baiting Hamlin. And then and then
somebody else came over. You know, I thought, if I
call that on the why call that in the Bills?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I didn't understand that one.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
And you know, and then the catch that the Bills
challenged and that Allen play. I mean, there's a lot
of howling about the officials, and frankly, that's too bad
because there was great football being played and and you
don't want that to be if you're a fan of football, you.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Don't want the calls to be the headline.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Yeah, no, absolutely, and I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yeah, that play that was with the rookie saying was
still if you remember the defensive back he had, Yeah,
and he was going and like you said, it's say
Kwon Barkle, did you not see what he did the
first play of the game, You know what I'm saying,
Like you know, I mean, and I think that was
just an unfortunate situation where yeah, you got the one
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guy that wanted to call it by the letter of
the law, the right footsteps on the chalk as he's
making contact, he's out of bounds penalty. I mean, and
that was just you know, some of some of the
back breaks. Now, obviously you can't have the four turnovers
that the Commanders had and expect to beat Philly.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
In that game. I mean, that was that was one
of the.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Tough things to you know, to watch, especially when you
wanted to be competitive. But like you said, I mean,
I felt this was the best year for Josh Allen
and the buff Bills too to take down Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
But Patrick Mahomes, you know, kicked it into overdrive.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
You think about the game that Hollywood Brown was having
in there, because they were trying to lock down Travis
kelcey uh for the most part, and you know, some
some big plays some MYGP Ryan had had had a
big run at the end of the game.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
The ice that game off.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Back and forth between games man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, because King just did that, I know that trying
to keep up.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Okay. So game number two between the Buffalo Bills and
and the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Okay, so let's stay here for a minute, all.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Right, in the stadium of Arrowhead. Yes, let's stay there.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
All right now.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The thing that blew me away, guys, I mean, in
the first half, the Bills allowed seventeen first downs in
two hundred and seventeen yards by the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Kad zooks. That's losing football, yep.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Well yeah, and you know a bunch of it was
on that opening drive. And I just think you have
to applaud.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
You know, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes for coming out
evidently doing some things a little bit differently. You know,
Roma was saying, hey, they're doing some different things on
this opening drive. The Bills will adjust, which they did
to some degree, but to be able to come up
with a game plan in which you steal seven right
out of the shoot. Okay, they'll adjust to us, they'll
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come back. But now you're up seven to nothing. I
mean it's just, you know, if you love football and
every aspect of it and the coaching and the decision
making and all that stuff, I mean I just had
to sit back and pick. That's just that's beautiful. That's
beautifully done. Are they going to adjust to that and
catch up? Sure, But in the meantime.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
You're up seven nothing.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
I just and then, of course, you know it's so
some of that is Mahomes, but a lot of that
is Andy Reid just coming up with a really good
and the offensive staff they're coming up with a really
good plan to attack the Bills. And then, yeah, I
don't know how many of those yards. I don't remember
where they got the ball to begin that drive. I
think it was maybe an eighty R drive. I don't
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remember exactly, but yes, you're right, Well, that's not you know,
you cannot give up two hundred yards a half and
expected to win the game. Although the Bills had their opportunities,
didn't they So just a brilliant game when the I mean,
it's it's been uh, it's been Ali Frasier, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I mean, these matchups have just been phenomena.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The one thing I will say I thought Romo pointed
out it really made a big point was when the
loss of that cornerback, Christian Benford Man that that really
hit the Bills hard because that Alam he struggled on
that Mahomes was all over him like White on rice.
I mean he kept you know, you know, throwing at him,
picking him out, and Kyrie Alam had some real struggles
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last night.
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Well, I think there's a couple of things that you know,
we were watching, you know, arguably the two best quarterbacks
in the game, and they do things obviously a little
bit differently. I mean, Allen's got that rocket, you know,
but Mahomes is so accurate. I mean there's a lot
of a lot of throws in which he hits this
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guy in stride and that's worth that can.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Be worth ten or fifteen yards on a player, maybe more.
You know, his accuracy is unbelievable. And I think seeing
him in person.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
You know, calling that game when they were here, just
underscored the fact that he has got every throw he's got,
He's got plenty of arm strength to make you know,
ninety nine point.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Nine percent of the throws. I mean, if he.
Speaker 11 (41:00):
Rears back and throws it, I don't know how far
he throws it, but that rarely comes into play for
a quarterback. He is just you know, he can if
you have a balloon throw that's one hundred percent, in
a rocket that's you know, zero percent. Some guys can
make some of the throws in between. He can make
every single throw in between there. He can just put
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a little on it, he can put a lot on it,
he can put in between on it. I mean, just
he's he's a remarkable player. Just a remarkable, remarkable player
in a great scheme that takes advantage of his skills
with a great defense to his disposal.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Yeah, no, I completely agree. And like you said, and
he I mean, he makes the most with the least.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Right, you know, the guy turns the guy turns leftovers
into a gourmet meal.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
That's essentially, you know.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
How he's how he's played in it, you know. And
I thought one of the significant things, you know, last night,
for Patrick Mahonemes and Andy Reid.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Andy Reid goes to three hundred and one wins.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
He now he now tied Bill Belichick for most postseason victories,
you know, between his time between Philly and Kansas City,
and then for Pat Mahomes, he's he surpassed uh Joe
Montana for most playoff victories and now he's second behind
only Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I think that just a shortcomings. I think that's what
it is. The fourth quarter comebacks Max, No, No.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
It's it's total postseason victories.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Okay, well, I know he's in the same place in
fourth quarter comebacks and that was the next gen stats.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
I was reading them, going okay, really yeah that was
next Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, he's on top of the Montana you know, and
yeah behind Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
That's you're gonna be that all the categories really.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, he's not even thirty, not even
thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It is.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
It's amazing.
Speaker 11 (42:57):
I mean, we're just we're witnessing great and has no
question about it. And you know, a couple of rushing
touchdowns and he's he's always had that ability. And we
talked about this before the UH when we were getting
ready for the Steelers game against the Chiefs. He's always
got that ability to you know, if it's third and seven,
he knows how to scramble and get eight.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
He on third and seven, he never scrambles and gets five.
You know, he just knows, he knows how to pick
it up. He's so he's really wolf. He is. He
is really good at math.
Speaker 11 (43:34):
And by the way, I do I think that, you know,
I want to send out like some credit to the
Bills too.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Like you know, I was talking with the Bills people
and they.
Speaker 11 (43:43):
Had that the Steelers had that preseason game against him,
and I said, you know, can they do this thing again?
I mean, they lost so many starters and they have
just been hemorrhaging Pro bowlers. You know, through free agency
and retirement, they've lost so many great players over the
last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
And you know, the Chiefs have lost some players too.
I understand that.
Speaker 11 (44:05):
But to get back to that championship game, I think
is a credit to not only Josh Allen, but Sean
McDermot and his staff as well, because I really had
my doubts as to whether they had enough enough great
players still left after all the players they've lost in
free agency and in the offseason the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Uh, And the answer was a resounding yes.
Speaker 11 (44:27):
I mean they you know that's uh, that's not easy
to to stay on top after.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
You've lost that many great players.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, no, it absolutely is.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
Uh is something so history will be you know, we'll
be on the table come Super Bowl Sunday next next
week after these Pro Bowl games. Rob, we appreciate the
time as always, Thank you, sir for always stopping by
and making sure that you know a there is a
throne to sit on, and you do it on it
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quite frequently, unlike King Ludwig. You know, as we've told
us the history there, Uh, glad that glad that you
won't have those same things. You don't own any money
to some guys that might look look at ice picking
the kneecaps.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
Right, you're good there.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
No, King Ludwig should have taken moore At advice and
just accepted a.
Speaker 7 (45:18):
Chair exactly exactly. It was a throne that did him in.
Speaker 8 (45:23):
All right, Well, hey, we'll have a great rest of
your week, and we will talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Correct, Can we put you on the spot?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
We got We got one more time, guys, looking forward.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
There we go, There we go.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. All right, we're gonna step aside.
Speaker 8 (45:42):
We'll be back here with more inside the locker when
we come back after these commercial breaks.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
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Speaker 3 (46:19):
All right, you know what of that? What time it is?
It's that time to increase our vocabulary. Little word of
the day, and the word of the day is anthropolot.
(46:41):
Do you have any idea what that is?
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Max, Nope, have zero clue.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
All right, Well, an anthropoglot is an animal whose tongue
is similar to a human tongue, making possible sounds similar
to human speech. For instance, we have a parrot, all right,
my son Max, he got a parrot a few years ago,
and of course he will mimic sounds and do things.
(47:06):
You know that sometimes you gotta be careful around him.
You never know what's going on. But one time I
came into the dining room and the good lady Faith was,
I don't know, doing something with the parrot, hab a Cook, right,
So so she goes. I heard her say, oh, hab
A Cook, how you doing, handsome? And he cackled, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I said, boy, I said, how could you say
it to him?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
You don't say it to me, and you know, and
Faith just looked at me like blankly, like what And
then all of a sudden hear this, and it was
have a cook laughing at me? All right, Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm being I'm being razzled, rizzled or whatever those words
were by you know, yeah, rizzed by a parrot, by
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a parrot in my own house.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
Okay, man, can't can't be Yeah exactly, no, cap there.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
Oh Jesus, that is yeah, that that that happened. That happened, guys.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
It sounds a lot like ab a cooker frankly.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Oh yeah, but I was just his name was hab
A Cook or Wesley Euler?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
It was after one of the biblical minor prophets of
the New test Old Testament. So that's my son named
him that. So I thought it was pretty cool. Habit cook.
It's a pretty neat name. But anyhow, I think, is
it time to go?
Speaker 7 (48:31):
Max? You know what it is? It is, It is
time to go, So all right, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Now it's coming up. The power hour Possession arrow goes
to Max. We'll be back with more here on the
Steelers Audio Network.
As the most assass as.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh yeah, well, it's the penultimate week, as Wesley pointed out,
to the Super Bowl, which means that it's now the
Pro Bowl Games not game, but Games presented by Verizon,
kicks off on Thursday, January thirty with the Skills Showdown
in Orlando, Florida. Wesley, what.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
We got? We gotta get Wesley's take because this happened
off air.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But what what was some of the skills competitions?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
If I thought you were going to start rolling some
of them out and then we'd do the joke and
then we.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Do the bit, right, Max, I mean I don't it.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Well, here was the joke where Wolf is like, all right,
what's the skills showdown in the Pro Bowl? And Max
and I are like, Oh, they play dodgeball, they do
throwing competitions, catching, they do different you know, different obstacle
courses and everything, and Wolfe's kind of shaking his head
and I go, you know, like, who can build a
pillow for it the fastest?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Wolf looked at me like it shocked me because
I really thought that was happening.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I no, No, that's just what my daughters and I
do in the living room on weekends.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
But I got I got Wolf.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Good, showing once again that that humor doesn't really work
Monday mornings.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
For me.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I'm a little bitou Three more cups of coffee, Max,
and he'll be there.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There you go. How you doing, Max?
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Yeah, I am Yeah, I'm doing good. Yeah right, uh yeah,
uh huh yeah, we're here. Uh. It was just like
thinking about the prep like, oh, it's Pro Bowl week.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
I'm like, wait a second, it's Pro Bowl Challenges Games week.
It's not really Pro Bowl week. It's not the Pro
Bowl that you and I are accustomed to. It is
the New Age Pro Bowl. And gosh, you know, I
was thinking about this Wolf, which we talked about this affair.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
You know, it was.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Does the Pro Bowl really matter to the league, to
players anymore?
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Because it's so far from.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
The game that we used to see right, you know
where you you had the honor of going over to Hawaii,
and there were competitions throughout the week build up for
the game.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Right.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
Remember there's the Strongest Man competition, the obstacle course, the
kicker challenge, the quarterback challenge, and then you had like
and then you had like the wide receiver catch chat challenge.
Like you had all of these like fun events open
to the public.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
And it was a week of celebration.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
And it happened after the Super Bowl, so that the
team that won the Super Bowl and the team that
also competed in this the other team that competed, they
usually had the largest concentration of Pro Bowl players. Correct,
Usually the teams that are doing they would have the
largest concentration, so those guys would get to participate.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
You'd get to be honored. You know. I remember when
we won the five Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
In Detroit, super Bowl forty and I went out to
the Pro Bowl the week after and got to see
my teammates.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
This celebrated.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Was that the year that you were on the you know,
the all second.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
You know, yeah, yeah, I was I was.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Another Yeah, we're second alternates were second alternati second.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's what ties this together.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
We both yeah, exactly, we're both second alternates, like three years.
So you know, I was out there and you know,
I remember seeing, you know, because there was there was Peasy, Joey,
Porter Troy, there was let's see Alan Marvel, Jeff Harding's Jerome.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
And I think that was it.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
There, Ben Ben was Ben didn't become a Pro Bowl
until later because that was that was when like Peyton
and Tom, you know, just hogged all the Pro Bowl bids.
And I want to say I think there was one
more than I'm just forgetting because I don't think Pazzi
(05:44):
made it that year.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
James Fear. I think James made it that year, and okay,
but yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
But anyways, that was still I mean still we had
six guys and I just remember sitting in the stadium
that week or that game day back this is the tradition,
this is what we've known is Pro Bowl, and I
just remember sitting there and when they announced those guys,
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I just remember getting on my feet because they were
the last last group announced and it was announced and
from the Pittsburgh Steelers, You're Super Bowl forty champion Pro
Bowl players, and the whole crowd went crazy everybody's still
on their feet. The players clapped, and I just remember
how cool that was, and I said that, you know,
to myself, it was like, man, I would love to
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be in that position one day.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
That would be so awesome. And then everything changed.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Then it was like, well, we don't want to waste
this week, and you know we don't. We want to
keep momentum going, so we're moving the Pro Bowl the
week before. And then now a majority of guys now
have to have to decline the Pro Bowl. You know,
you accept the bid, it still goes on your resume
even though you don't participate in it.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
And then now and then the land.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Of Alternates came, and unfortunately that was after my bid
of second alternates.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
See back in my day, everybody wanted to go because
the money was big, I mean near the money that
that has made today. So part of that, you know,
part and parcel was to win the game because that
was a big paycheck in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Yeah, that was that was a huge little chunk of
change that you didn't account for. That was like okay, yeah,
no idea, I could use all that, you know, and
you know, I just I And then it went from that,
then it was a non competitive game, and then it
was full of alternates because all of the main guys
you wanted to see, especially at like quarterback and you know,
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pass rusher and all this stuff, you know, became you know,
the other guys. And I just remember it just kind
of evolving. And then when I went when when Marquise
when Pouncey made it, he flew, he flew the entire
offensive line out for his first and I just remember how.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Cool it was.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
And full disclosure, we're in the stadium right Hawaii, and.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Uh, you know what happens. I mean, pouncing. Pouncing was awesome.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
So Pouncy got us guys like a little bus to
take us, to take us all. So it's just the
old line and so we turned into a party bus, right,
I mean, that's what you'd actually do.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
And so we get there.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
How many of you guys went, It was it was
nine of us.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Because Posy was playing, so everybody else was there. Oh no,
this is a guy's trip.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay, So that's that's start to find and whittle this
thing down.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Yeah yeah, let let's set the seat.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
So we get we get there on Monday, and you know,
Pouncy gets us uh gets us rooms at the same hotel.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
We're out at Cooalina and.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Village No No, because they had moved it to Kohalina,
to the other side of the island because they because
the NFL could take up more hotels and it was
more you know, it was more secure, they could protect
it better.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
So we're out there.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
And we all we all we all fly in on
the same flight, so I I you know some of them.
There are pictures in circulation with with with amongst our
teammates of us on the flight there, and we're all
sitting all near each other and we are we are
just we're buying drinks for everybody on the plane.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Like we're at a bar.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
So mind you, we're going there and now you know,
it's six hour time difference, and so we we've been
drinking for about five out of the available six hours
uh this flight. And we get there, get you know,
get our bags, and we get to the hotel. We
(10:00):
don't even check into our rooms. We go straight to
the bar and yeah, and we finish off, well, we
didn't get to finish on the plane because obviously there's
a limit, you know, and they ran out.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Of stuff really quickly.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Where there, Possey comes and meets us. Then Pouncy hangs
out with us for a little bit. Uh Pousy, you
know did really get partakes because he still got to
go to practices and everything. You know, we have no responsibility.
Our season is over. We are we are in full
vacation mode. All of us have Hawaiian shirts on, like
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we are we we we we have come to conquer
the island of Hawafu. And so yeah, so we so
we get there and all the different NFL guys you know,
are covered to the bar, so everybody saying hello to everybody,
Like Richie Incognito came by and yeah, exactly, you know,
(10:56):
I mean, you know, and then Mike Pouncy, uh, Marquise's
brother came because because Mike, Mike I think, was a
rookie that year, it was our second year.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Pouncing made it his second year, I believe.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
And so so yeah, so we're all there, we are
having a ruckous time.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
We eventually check into our room and then then I
were like, man, well where are we going?
Speaker 8 (11:21):
So we got to get down to Honolulu, and so
we ended up getting getting getting like a van service
to take us down there.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
We have it.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
We have a very good time. Then uh you know,
potato potato, I mean, listen, whatever we got in it
turned into a party.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
We just needed we just needed wheels, baby, That's all
we needed.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
We just needed wheels.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
And so, you know, we get up and that whole
week we're just and then you know, we're just hanging out.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And we went out on Honolulu.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
And there was like a senior Frogs or something, I
can't remember, you do something like that, and we went
in there. We tore it down, We did some shopping.
Everybody got had puka beads by the end of the day.
And then you know, and then of course and then
of course Juice, you know Chris Katu, you know, he's
him and his brother like the Kings of Hawaii.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
So so there was like there.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Was like we went to concerts and parties and we
get to we get to Pro Bowl Sunday and we
roll up to the stadium. Mind you, one of our
teammates I'm not going to say any names, decided.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
That, you know, dude, we should do we should do
some hair.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Of the Dogs and some Bloody Mary's before we get
on the bus.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
At the bar, so we do it.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Problem was somebody wanted to take shots along with that.
Now I don't advise this, nor am I condoning it,
but it happened, So I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Just reporting history. We had we had to weeke in at.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Bernie's one of my teammates onto the bus in alignment,
gotcha okay.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
And we get we get to the stage.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I have an idea, but I'm just exactly exactly.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
So we get in the stadium, we find our seats,
we sit down, and I had a faux because you know,
they were because I had not looked at the Pro bowlers.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I just knew I wasn't on it right.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
And so I'm there and they and they called a
certain individual's day.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
It was Andrew Whitworth when he was still with the Bengals.
This is, you know, way well before his ran right
swan song.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
And I I go, how the hell did he make you?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Who are sitting next to.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
His whole entire family?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I was I was hoping I was wrong.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Oh no. They turned around and I'm sitting next to
the Weekend at Bernie's teammate and I just point to him.
I point to him. I'm so sorry, he's.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh my goodness, what a moment.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Oh god, Oh yeah, the whole everybody's got like seventy
nine Beagles jerseys on to Fredery. Mind you, I had
zero by awareness was at an all time low at
that moment.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Uh So I pointed to my teammates that I'm.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
So sorry, he's he's two sheets to the wind, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
So now we don't have those type of moments anymore
because there's no longer football being played.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think it's a shame, you know, really, and the
ability to be able to display skills in a game
of football, which is what it's all about, to do
anything even slightly you know, different, is weird. It's like
I said, why don't you combine like I don't know,
maybe maybe a week of the sea in your bowl
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or a hula ball that they used to have where
you have college kids that come in and play a
game where you lay it on the line because it
means something to their future. And you have that ability
to entertain enjoy the sport of football done so by
people that really want to play, that really have the
opportunity to display their wares to you know, professional scouts
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and so forth and then you know, you have a
great game that wraps up for Pro Bowl Pro Bowl Week,
and you got the Pro Bowlers there to you know,
I don't know, just kind of co mingle with the
college All stars. It just to me seems like a
natural thing.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean that that would be I think, and
I think it would be more meaningful because, like you said,
you would have kids trying to do this, and you
could almost make the Pro Bowlers like pseudo coaches, right, sure,
absolutely position coaches in there, they participate, and then they
would do like skills challenges alongside these college kids.
Speaker 10 (15:56):
During that week, right that could be any of that
stuff that you want to you know what I'm saying,
make it more competitive, Yeah, yeah, to make it more
competitive than it is, because right now, it's just it's
it's a display.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
And I know, you know, listen, I sat in on
that call when we when they first transitioned to these games,
and they were asking for player input, and you know,
I'm like, I'm like, first of all, how did I
get picked for this? Because I'm like, I've only been
a second ulton that I've never made it to the game.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
In the one year I thought I was about to
make it to the game.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Willie Anderson, who was on IR no mind you, he
was on I R for most of the season.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He got picked.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
He got picked and he accepted. I was like, dude,
you hadn't even played. I was like, I was so mad.
Oh I was so mad, Oh wolf I was. I was.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I can say one of the few times outside of
the Andrew Whitworth thing where I.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Like cursed out loud. I was like, are you are
you beeping kidding me?
Speaker 8 (16:55):
So so yeah, so so so yeah. So I'm sitting
on the ed like, oh yeah. And you know, and
a certain player that's a defensive back that you know
everybody calls them zesty and everything else. His initials are
j R. A defensive back position. He might be down
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Anyways, he gets a oh, I think this is great,
but you know, you know, these games is just a
little bit too much for this. And I just remember
saying to the call, I said, you're not playing a
game at.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The end of the day. It's games. Uh so this
is if you want to go, this is what you do.
And then you know, and then he.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Got all on the tizzy and he was, well, how
many have you participated, I said, I said I wanted to.
I said, I don't know if I want to participate
in this version of it, but I would have participated
in the old version.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Of it, So you're changing it.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So I was like, we're the only professional sport where
we don't play an actual game.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Now that's true, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean they all have their skills, competition and the
other things that surround their All Star game matches, but
it's in the actual play, you know, the game, that's
the enjoyment, that's the fun, that's the real for the people,
for the participants, for the you know. And I understand
that there's a high injury factor, which I think could
be mitigated, as it was in many ways by the
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players themselves because they, you know, the conduct was such that,
you know, they tried to take a lot of the
dangerous stuff. That's the one time that I can understand that,
all right, if you want to make a business decision,
that's okay, you know what I mean, that that would
be something acceptable. But even back I remember Jack Lambert,
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I believe it was Lambert that went to the Pro
Bowl one time, and Jim Haslett from the Bills, another
linebacker was there, and they went out the night before
the game until like I don't know, four or five
in the morning, and you know, they come back and
uh so they barely had any sleep at all, you know,
before the game kicked off, and Lambert went out in
(18:55):
the first series, came back said, oh, I pulled a
hamstring and put and has to play the rest of
the game. The whole time. I'm not sure Amber Lambert
pulled the hammy.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Oh no, he didn't pull a hammy, but he did
pull a fast one.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I think that. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I mean, you know, guys, guys want to be out there,
Guys want to put. And you also have to realize
this is the only Pro Bowl games that's done at
the end of the season. Every other All Star game
is done in the middle of the season, right NBA
All Star Game, sorry, middle of season, they get a break.
MLB same thing where they get a break in the
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middle of the season. And you have the home run
derby and the game matters for who gets Game one
of the World Series and who's a home and away,
and you know, for jerseys for the first game, and
then you also have NHL right, the NHL Hockey, the
skills Challenge, and the game. So it's the only all
star game in professional sports that does not happened in
the middle of the season, and it's the only one
(20:02):
that does not have a physical game. Yes, we have
games like dodgeball, okay, and flag football. What job can
offensive and defensive, well, defensive line still has a job.
What job does an offensive lineman have? In essentially glorified
(20:27):
seven on seven? In fact, in international flag football rules,
you all the guys who are offensive linemen are also receivers.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah yeah, but let's go back to dodgeball. Okay, who's
most at risk at dodgeball? It's the hogs. Come on, Yeah,
that's like a slaughter bend. We can't do the five
d's of dodgeball.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Wolf, Okay, explain.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Yeah, five d's of dodgeball, dip duck, dodge.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Dodge, duck, dip, dive.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
And dodge dodge. Yeah, there we go, two dodges with
a dip, duck and a dive.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Oh my goodness, think about it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You've got six five, three hundred and fifty pound monsters
out there. They're not going to be real good at
dipping and ducking. Diving stuff like that, they.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Should throw that ball like it's a cannon. Baby.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well wait a minute, do you know what happens to shoulders?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
The problems receivers and DB's on the other side that
also catch cannons for a living. And a round ball
that's soft is a lot easier than an oblong ball
that's made of pigskin, you know, that's rifled at them
and more of a bullet like nature. That's the only
thing I worry about, Like, you have to like you
have to do double you have to do double hits,
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you know.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
And now I'm aiming for your head, you know, because
I'm like, because anywhere else is your catch radius, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, there's just
so many different areas. Yeah, so lineman, don't do well
in that, uh you know, in the in the in
the in the relay race competition, you got a shot
because you have to you have to like match up
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position for position equally on your team. So everybody has
to take a fat man. But we're like the last
kids picked. And like you know, when you pick basketball, right,
you're like, okay, uh, okay, which what do I want
Do I want the fat chubby kid that can't that
can't shoot, or do I want the uh the skinny,
tall kid who could shoot, but but he's but he
(22:25):
acts like a baby giraffe on ice, right, you know
when he's out there on the basketball.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Like, we're like the land of forgotten toys at that
point when we get picked. But we do get picked,
and we do have a role, so that is nice.
But you know, we don't have the prowess of the
running backs and receivers and DB's and linebackers and all
that kind of stuff. Uh So so you know we're
we're like the awkward kid in the group.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Not to mention it's too easy to pick off big
guys like us. Actually yeah, not even like that, because
I'm not of any size compared to these guys the day.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Well, I mean paratively by generation, by garatively by generation.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
But here's the thing, Well, you would have done awesome
in the strong man competition.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I forgot what the strong man competition was.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Remember that that was one where you did the bench
press contest. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, because well I'm saying,
like back in back in like our era, like they
had a strong man.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
So you had who could who could do the bench
press the most squats and then you do like a
little obstacle. Course on top of that, you would have
done great, yeah, because you participated in the World's Strongest
Man competition, so this would be easy.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
This would be lightweight work.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
So it's like, you know, so it's like you don't
even really have that stuff anymore.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
So it's like, come on, I mean, it's so watered down.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
It's just but and now this has to be the
weekend between the Super Bowl too.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
On top of that, Yeah, well you've got to fit
it in. Now you've got to again in the NFL
is absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Going, you know, keep the momentum going.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Weekly news every every week. You know, there's something rolling out.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
And there's got to be a marquee event every month
in the business of football season.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
Absolutely hence why the end of February will be doing
the combine. Yeah, and I along with Matt Williamson and
Dale Lolly, I'm so glad you guys are doing it.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
I'm sure you are. Wolf.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
You can roll over in bed and hit the snooze
button when you hear the show come on.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I went there.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
When I went there years ago, they sent me and
I got to interview the top ten guys. So I
sat down with them and I and I and I
was just having a little bit of fun. So I thought,
you know what, I said, we're gonna get these testing questions.
So one of my questions was to the guys, going, Okay,
we're at the we're in Indianapolis. That's the home of
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the Indianapolis five hundred. Now the Indianapolis five hundred, Okay,
the track is two and a half miles around, all right,
how many times would you have to go around the
track to to get to the Indianapolis five hundred. There
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was like four or five guys that couldn't even come
close to an answer.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It was like it was like it's like two hundred
laps is what you know, but it's like.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You absolutely fried their brain.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well I I well, finally after four or four or
so couldn't do it. I said, we have to stop.
We can't do this.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
These kids, you know, this is just most stressful a
couple of days of their lives. They're being treated like
live stock, herded from place to place, in a in
a county fair and Wolf's like, by the way, how
many laps in? The idiot just slowing it.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Out there to have a little fun.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And these guys are flunking it left and right, and
I'm not going, Okay, we got to stop because I
don't want I don't want to embarrass these kids.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Last one.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I'll tell you my brother Ronnie, and you gotta you
gotta remind him of this, remind him of when he
went to the combine. Okay, because part of the combine
they had to walk out like a fashion model and
a jockstrap and nothing else in front of the jams.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
What are you talking about? I had to do the
same thing.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Did you do this? Oh I didn't even know that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah? Is that like awkward? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I would say so.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I mean and and now I can't you know, now,
like the guys coming there, you know, they still have
to get in their skivvies and still but but the
platform has changed now it's a it's like a horseshoe
circle and you walk up like this ramp to this
huge ear and you sit there in your drawers, you know,
And I'm just saying, you know, try to be kind
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about it. And you stand there, you do like you
you do the full circle so they get a good
look front and back, you know, mane and tail all
the way.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And then uh, and you lift your arms.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
They measure your wingspan the O, they measure your handspan,
they do your headside.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
And then they do your height.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
And then you walk off and you have how many
people are in the room at the time, I mean,
I mean, but there's thirty two gms that you're throwing,
thirty two assistant gms, so now you're up to sixty four, right,
and that's before you even get to the position coaches
and assist the position coaches, depending on which one it is. So,
but you look about one hundred and fifty people plus
(27:25):
in this room staring at you not playing football.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh my goodness, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Yeah. It's always like, hey, can I wear like shower
shorts or sand? And oh I forgot, oh I forgot.
You get you get on the scale and.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
They check your weight too, and they call your weight
out loud to all these of course.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Of course, all right, that's the opening salvall in the
opening bell.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Here we.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Gotta go to break. We got the King are coming
up next, Rob King, The King is in the castle.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
We're back with more. You're listening to the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
This is the FAKA Room, presented by Ford and brought
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Speaker 8 (28:43):
Oh, King in the castle, King in the castle.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
I have a chair, I have a chair.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh this go do this?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
King in the castle.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
And when you hear the King is in the castle,
all of us must been the knee just a little
bit to the will of the king, and that king
being mister Rob King. That's right, voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers,
but also accomplished author as well.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Kudos to you, sir. We pay we pay homage. We
pay homage to my liege. How are we doing today, Rob?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I'm great?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
Once again, Max and wolf I laughed during the four out.
I laugh every time. Maybe one of these years I'll
stop laughing for that enjoy I laugh every time and
then today today I reflect and reflected, you know, I
was thinking, like, when when do I ever say go.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Do this and anybody does it? Yeah, that just doesn't happen.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Well, hold on real quick, I gotta jump in here.
You guys will get a kick out of this. I
meant to tell you this this morning and it just
reminded me. Me and my buddies went and played pod
hockey yesterday for like three or four hours, like one
of my favorite things in the world. And there was
a group of like middle school high school age kids
who were already at the lake playing right And we
get down there and we're getting set up, and it
was really nice because they had the ice, the pond
(30:08):
all cleaned off already, They had like three different areas
set up. It was it was field of dreams on
a pond right right. And I walked down and I go,
whoa hollua, And one of the kids, who had to
be twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, not very old, turns
around and goes Borett and I went yeah, and he goes,
I love that movie. I said, you know what, the
(30:29):
kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Ohn excellent, ken Heer.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I gotta tell you my only experience with the castle.
One time we were in Germany and we went to
Newenstein and saw that castle that was the basis for
Walt Disney doing the Cinderella Castle and everything. And I'll
never forget going to the throne room and we were there.
The steps lead up probably I don't know, maybe thirteen
fifteen steps up to where the throne would be, but
(30:59):
there was no throne because the guy never got the
thrown installed before he kicked King Ludwig was found. King
Ludwig the third of Bavaria went in to such deep
debt to pay for that castle. He might have well
maybe he got some money from the wrong people, if
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But he was found in.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
A lake with his personal physician, drowned in three feet
of water, though he was six foot three and know
nm to be a very good swimmer.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Go figure on that one. Huh.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting. But yes, if I were to,
if I were to have to marry to say go
do this, I would be met with why don't you
do it yourself?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
So much?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Nice to hear witch, nice.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
To hear borat you know, he's got a chair and
he's ready to roll.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
That is too funny. That's too funny.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Kinger, All right, we are we are barreling down towards
Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Uh did you catch any of the games yesterday? And
you're yes, sir.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
Well, Philadelphia is really good, you know, really good. Uh
so they're gonna be a handful for anybody.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
And you know, they played a high level both.
Speaker 11 (32:14):
You know, and then you know Washington wasn't quite ready
for that stage, right, But they're but they're they're they're
very promising.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Jayden Daniels is terrific.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
That was my takeaway from that game is the Eagles
are really good, really tough to beat.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Jade and Daniels is really good.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
And you know the other game, you know, another classic game.
And you know, we have these discussions all the time
about and I'm not going to say this cost them
the game, but the whole notion of chasing points and
taking points off the board. They clearly the Bills now
do not appear to have a very good you know,
(32:52):
one yard play. They don't have the Toushbush, which I think,
if I recall correctly, the Eagles went for two and
didn't get it with a touchbush, I think, but you know,
the Bills wound up. I meant, this isn't the lead,
but the Bills wound up chasing points. So you don't
get the one point. Then you then you're chasing a
two point conversion. You don't get that. Now, had you
(33:13):
had you just kicked the extra point in both those instances,
Kansas City, in turn wouldn't have gone for two. They
would have kicked the extra point. That would have been
the conventional thought. And now it's a three point game.
Well what was the margin? It was three points. Now
Mahomes probably gets a punt and takes it down the field.
They win anyway. But you know, that's one of those
things that that you know. I love analytics. I think
(33:36):
it's got a great part in the game. I understand
why you do certain things. I'm not saying Sean McDermot,
who's a great coach, was leaning on analytics, but I
think there's some danger to chasing the point.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
So other than the fact that it.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Was another brilliantly played game and Mahomes is unbelievable, of course,
that one did. I thought from a football observers standpoint,
as we kind of enter into this new era where
everybody's going court like the Commanders did and do in
some interesting decisions. Well you know, they also went forward
and got it on fourth down. I got a touchdown too,
(34:08):
So you know, it can't I can't have it both ways, right.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right, Well, the thing I will say, the chief stuff
three quarterback sneaks. You know, that's the most since what
nineteen or twenty sixteen? Yead zooks man, you know what
I mean. They just they just could not inch it enough.
That one from the overhead. I thought the last one
that I thought Josh could have gotten it, but I could.
(34:33):
You know, it was really hard to tell, you know,
when you get those scrums, it's so very hard to
tell what happened.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, I agree, and you're right. It'll be interesting to.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
See if they have a defense with a touch push,
right if it comes to that. In the Super Bowl,
they figured out some way and the Bills didn't do it.
The Bills, you know, Allen tries to angle left off
tackle for some reason.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's that's the.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Way they run it. And there are a lot of people,
you know, howling about uh the officials.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
You know, I thought there were a bunch of uh
of questionable calls. But you know, I thought there was
a questionable call the Philadelphia Washington game when Barkley got
hit out of bounds. I mean, by the letter of
the law, I guess that's a penalty. But you know
what if Barkley, if you guys know the plan talking
about where the defender, you know, when he put his
left foot down Barkley.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
You know what if what if you're trying to ease back.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
I mean it's not it's not like the guy lit
Barkley up, but you're if you ease back and Barkley,
you know, stomps his foot in the ground, uh, and
cuts up the sideline, he's gonna run you over. So
what are you supposed to do as a defender. I'm
not really sure what you're supposed to do there except
try to angle him out of bounds. And then you know,
(35:48):
at that point, I think, uh, you know, contact is inevitable.
I thought Travis Kelsey baiting Hamlin. And then and then
somebody else came over. You know, I thought, if I
call that on the why call that in the Bills?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I didn't understand that one.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
And you know, and then the catch that the Bills
challenged and that Allen play. I mean, there's a lot
of howling about the officials, and frankly, that's too bad
because there was great football being played and and you
don't want that to be if you're a fan of football, you.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Don't want the calls to be the headline.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Yeah, no, absolutely, and I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yeah, that play that was with the rookie saying was
still if you remember the defensive back he had, Yeah,
and he was going and like you said, it's say
Kwon Barkle, did you not see what he did the
first play of the game, You know what I'm saying,
Like you know, I mean, and I think that was
just an unfortunate situation where yeah, you got the one
(36:51):
guy that wanted to call it by the letter of
the law, the right footsteps on the chalk as he's
making contact, he's out of bounds penalty. I mean, and
that was just you know, some of some of the
back breaks. Now, obviously you can't have the four turnovers
that the Commanders had and expect to beat Philly.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
In that game. I mean, that was that was one
of the.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Tough things to you know, to watch, especially when you
wanted to be competitive. But like you said, I mean,
I felt this was the best year for Josh Allen
and the buff Bills too to take down Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
But Patrick Mahomes, you know, kicked it into overdrive.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
You think about the game that Hollywood Brown was having
in there, because they were trying to lock down Travis
kelcey uh for the most part, and you know, some
some big plays some MYGP Ryan had had had a
big run at the end of the game.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
The ice that game off.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Back and forth between games man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, because King just did that, I know that trying
to keep up.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Okay. So game number two between the Buffalo Bills and
and the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Okay, so let's stay here for a minute, all.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Right, in the stadium of Arrowhead. Yes, let's stay there.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
All right now.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
The thing that blew me away, guys, I mean, in
the first half, the Bills allowed seventeen first downs in
two hundred and seventeen yards by the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Kad zooks. That's losing football, yep.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Well yeah, and you know a bunch of it was
on that opening drive. And I just think you have
to applaud.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
You know, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes for coming out
evidently doing some things a little bit differently. You know,
Roma was saying, hey, they're doing some different things on
this opening drive. The Bills will adjust, which they did
to some degree, but to be able to come up
with a game plan in which you steal seven right
out of the shoot. Okay, they'll adjust to us, they'll
(38:45):
come back. But now you're up seven to nothing. I
mean it's just, you know, if you love football and
every aspect of it and the coaching and the decision
making and all that stuff, I mean I just had
to sit back and pick. That's just that's beautiful. That's
beautifully done. Are they going to adjust to that and
catch up? Sure, But in the meantime.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
You're up seven nothing.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
I just and then, of course, you know it's so
some of that is Mahomes, but a lot of that
is Andy Reid just coming up with a really good
and the offensive staff they're coming up with a really
good plan to attack the Bills. And then, yeah, I
don't know how many of those yards. I don't remember
where they got the ball to begin that drive. I
think it was maybe an eighty R drive. I don't
(39:26):
remember exactly, but yes, you're right, Well, that's not you know,
you cannot give up two hundred yards a half and
expected to win the game. Although the Bills had their opportunities,
didn't they So just a brilliant game when the I mean,
it's it's been uh, it's been Ali Frasier, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I mean, these matchups have just been phenomena.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The one thing I will say I thought Romo pointed
out it really made a big point was when the
loss of that cornerback, Christian Benford Man that that really
hit the Bills hard because that Alam he struggled on
that Mahomes was all over him like White on rice.
I mean he kept you know, you know, throwing at him,
picking him out, and Kyrie Alam had some real struggles
(40:11):
last night.
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Well, I think there's a couple of things that you know,
we were watching, you know, arguably the two best quarterbacks
in the game, and they do things obviously a little
bit differently. I mean, Allen's got that rocket, you know,
but Mahomes is so accurate. I mean there's a lot
of a lot of throws in which he hits this
(40:34):
guy in stride and that's worth that can.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Be worth ten or fifteen yards on a player, maybe more.
You know, his accuracy is unbelievable. And I think seeing
him in person.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
You know, calling that game when they were here, just
underscored the fact that he has got every throw he's got,
He's got plenty of arm strength to make you know,
ninety nine point.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Nine percent of the throws. I mean, if he.
Speaker 11 (41:00):
Rears back and throws it, I don't know how far
he throws it, but that rarely comes into play for
a quarterback. He is just you know, he can if
you have a balloon throw that's one hundred percent, in
a rocket that's you know, zero percent. Some guys can
make some of the throws in between. He can make
every single throw in between there. He can just put
(41:21):
a little on it, he can put a lot on it,
he can put in between on it. I mean, just
he's he's a remarkable player. Just a remarkable, remarkable player
in a great scheme that takes advantage of his skills
with a great defense to his disposal.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Yeah, no, I completely agree. And like you said, and
he I mean, he makes the most with the least.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Right, you know, the guy turns the guy turns leftovers
into a gourmet meal.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
That's essentially, you know.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
How he's how he's played in it, you know. And
I thought one of the significant things, you know, last night,
for Patrick Mahonemes and Andy Reid.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Andy Reid goes to three hundred and one wins.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
He now he now tied Bill Belichick for most postseason victories,
you know, between his time between Philly and Kansas City,
and then for Pat Mahomes, he's he surpassed uh Joe
Montana for most playoff victories and now he's second behind
only Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I think that just a shortcomings. I think that's what
it is. The fourth quarter comebacks Max, No, No.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
It's it's total postseason victories.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Okay, well, I know he's in the same place in
fourth quarter comebacks and that was the next gen stats.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
I was reading them, going okay, really yeah that was
next Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, he's on top of the Montana you know, and
yeah behind Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
That's you're gonna be that all the categories really.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, he's not even thirty, not even
thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It is.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
It's amazing.
Speaker 11 (42:57):
I mean, we're just we're witnessing great and has no
question about it. And you know, a couple of rushing
touchdowns and he's he's always had that ability. And we
talked about this before the UH when we were getting
ready for the Steelers game against the Chiefs. He's always
got that ability to you know, if it's third and seven,
he knows how to scramble and get eight.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
He on third and seven, he never scrambles and gets five.
You know, he just knows, he knows how to pick
it up. He's so he's really wolf. He is. He
is really good at math.
Speaker 11 (43:34):
And by the way, I do I think that, you know,
I want to send out like some credit to the
Bills too.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Like you know, I was talking with the Bills people
and they.
Speaker 11 (43:43):
Had that the Steelers had that preseason game against him,
and I said, you know, can they do this thing again?
I mean, they lost so many starters and they have
just been hemorrhaging Pro bowlers. You know, through free agency
and retirement, they've lost so many great players over the
last three or four years.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
And you know, the Chiefs have lost some players too.
I understand that.
Speaker 11 (44:05):
But to get back to that championship game, I think
is a credit to not only Josh Allen, but Sean
McDermot and his staff as well, because I really had
my doubts as to whether they had enough enough great
players still left after all the players they've lost in
free agency and in the offseason the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Uh, And the answer was a resounding yes.
Speaker 11 (44:27):
I mean they you know that's uh, that's not easy
to to stay on top after.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
You've lost that many great players.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, no, it absolutely is.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
Uh is something so history will be you know, we'll
be on the table come Super Bowl Sunday next next
week after these Pro Bowl games. Rob, we appreciate the
time as always, Thank you, sir for always stopping by
and making sure that you know a there is a
throne to sit on, and you do it on it
(45:00):
quite frequently, unlike King Ludwig. You know, as we've told
us the history there, Uh, glad that glad that you
won't have those same things. You don't own any money
to some guys that might look look at ice picking
the kneecaps.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
Right, you're good there.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
No, King Ludwig should have taken moore At advice and
just accepted a.
Speaker 7 (45:18):
Chair exactly exactly. It was a throne that did him in.
Speaker 8 (45:23):
All right, Well, hey, we'll have a great rest of
your week, and we will talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Correct, Can we put you on the spot?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
We got We got one more time, guys, looking forward.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
There we go, There we go.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. All right, we're gonna step aside.
Speaker 8 (45:42):
We'll be back here with more inside the locker when
we come back after these commercial breaks.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
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Speaker 3 (46:19):
All right, you know what of that? What time it is?
It's that time to increase our vocabulary. Little word of
the day, and the word of the day is anthropolot.
(46:41):
Do you have any idea what that is?
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Max, Nope, have zero clue.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
All right, Well, an anthropoglot is an animal whose tongue
is similar to a human tongue, making possible sounds similar
to human speech. For instance, we have a parrot, all right,
my son Max, he got a parrot a few years ago,
and of course he will mimic sounds and do things.
(47:06):
You know that sometimes you gotta be careful around him.
You never know what's going on. But one time I
came into the dining room and the good lady Faith was,
I don't know, doing something with the parrot, hab a Cook, right,
So so she goes. I heard her say, oh, hab
A Cook, how you doing, handsome? And he cackled, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I said, boy, I said, how could you say
it to him?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
You don't say it to me, and you know, and
Faith just looked at me like blankly, like what And
then all of a sudden hear this, and it was
have a cook laughing at me? All right, Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm being I'm being razzled, rizzled or whatever those words
were by you know, yeah, rizzed by a parrot, by
(47:53):
a parrot in my own house.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
Okay, man, can't can't be Yeah exactly, no, cap there.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
Oh Jesus, that is yeah, that that that happened. That happened, guys.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
It sounds a lot like ab a cooker frankly.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Oh yeah, but I was just his name was hab
A Cook or Wesley Euler?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
It was after one of the biblical minor prophets of
the New test Old Testament. So that's my son named
him that. So I thought it was pretty cool. Habit cook.
It's a pretty neat name. But anyhow, I think, is
it time to go?
Speaker 7 (48:31):
Max? You know what it is? It is, It is
time to go, So all right, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Now it's coming up. The power hour Possession arrow goes
to Max. We'll be back with more here on the
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