January 24, 2025 • 35 mins
The locker room discusses new head coaching hires across the NFL, including Pete Carroll’s return to the sideline in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Fish is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Wolfley and Max Stark's.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right back inside the locker room, and it is
the Power Hour. It's okay, Optimist Wolf's still hungry. But
so yeah, so you have muffins on your truck today,
but apparently you want to throw you know, throw a
little banana banana banana bread or something off.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I mean something geez, little victals.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Heread, Oh yeah, banana nut bread man, you know, monkey bread,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Anything in the.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Baked goods department, we do not shy away from it.
Once again, we sacrifice for the greater good of the
tea Wolf. That's why we eat the way that we do.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We have to.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Cakes and pies, cakes and pies.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
We sacrifice day in and day out.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, it's just it's not fair.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It's not fair, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I mean those days you go home, you know after
lifting weights and stuff like that, you know, Yeah, you
don't want to burden a wife, you know with a
little lunchrification.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Right, So you roll through Wendy's.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
You know, you got like three triple burgers and of
course you added some fries in there. You gotta have
a little something to kind of back it up there.
You know, you get your potatoes and stuff like that.
Then you get a diet coke. You know, you cut
those calories where you can.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know, you got to.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, but you know, but I do want to turn
back to something that you brought in. Oh, right before
we left, Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh yeah, new head coach of the Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Raiders, the Raid Ice the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You got to say it like that.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, Chris Mortenson the Raid.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, yeah, Chris Mortenson used to say that, what do
you what are your thoughts about Pete Carroll running it
back one more gain?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You know, it's just kind of funny. It's like a
recycling of old coaches. You know, I don't know that
it seems to me like if you're the Vegas franchise,
and I know they went Antonio Peers, but that was
again a product of that, you know, that that crazy
situation where you have an interim coach where he's got
some success, and then guys like feed off it, like yeah,
(02:46):
this is the new, latest, greatest, you know, coaching guide
to emerge, and then it doesn't work so good, you know,
because it's not really well thought out. It's simply a
wave of emotion and so forth coming emanating from the
locker room because well, you know, you take over the
team and it's not doing so well, and then you
do some good things and you're thinking, hey, this guy
(03:06):
can do it all the way around. Well it didn't
didn't happen, you know. And that's that's one of the
things that I always think about. Chuck Noll always used
to say, change for the sake of change is no
change at all. And I know that that's it can
be for some people. You know, they sit there and go, oh, well,
then you're just quagmired and and you know the old
(03:27):
stuff and this and that. But you know, there's a
truism to it, and it's all about, you know, when
you selectively make that move, And it's about number one
thing is you got to know ahead of time who
you have in mind and the possibilities of getting that person.
And I don't know I really don't have a good
either way about Pete Carroll. I hear good things about him,
(03:51):
of course, you know, he's had a great deal of success,
But at the same time, I'm thinking, I don't know,
maybe it's like the Raiders just kind of recycling something old.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think, you know, it's something where I get you
one experience, But at the same time, how open are
you really to trying to change this organization for a
long term, And I feel like it's just a quick fix.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
In the moment right there.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I know, you give Pete Carroll a three year deal,
but this also is not a spry guy.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, it's not like you're.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hiring a coach in his fifties, right, You're hiring a
guy well into his seventies.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, to come manage your team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And listen, I get Pete Carroll's an outlayer as far
as the way that he brings his energy, the way
that he approaches things. He still has a very youthful
mind and very you know, very relatable with a lot
of guys. But at the same time, you can't fight age,
you can't fight father time, and you know, and to
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go in such a stark opposite direction of what you
had just a year ago.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, AP's a young.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
For former player coach who's risen up through the ranks
really quickly, and you only give them one year and
you give them some crappy tools to play with to
try and make something. It would be like me telling you, hey, wolf,
by the way, I need you to go make a house.
But the only thing I'm gonna give you is some
popsicle sticks and some two.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Day old play though that has has had the lid off.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, let me give you
fresh play. Though it's the old play.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It might have a couple of other colors mixed into it,
you know when kids mix them together. You know, we
just we put it in the container, but we forgot
the lid. But I need you to make me a
working house. Also at indoor plumbing, I got I got some,
I got some I got some connect PVC left over, Right,
you know what I'm saying, Like like that, that's what
I feel like it kind of well, you know has been.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
If you really were serious about Antonio Pierce, don't you
think you would have settled the quarterback situation that didn't
include a couple of guys you know, one Gardner Minshew,
who was the other guy? I can't think of them,
but you know, neither quarterback. It strikes a chord as
far as being a legitimate starting NFL quarterback over a
(06:07):
long season. You know, I'm not talking about somebody that
can fit in for two to four to six weeks,
you know, in the case of injury. I'm talking about
guys that can go one to seventeen and be productive.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I mean, and and and that, and that's what
you need.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, and I think you know, when you look
at this squad how it was built and constructed a
year ago. Defensively, you have some good pieces, but they
also weren't healthy. And you're gonna need a quarterback. That's
the other thing. And and listen, I don't think Russ
and Pete Carroll are going to get back together anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But you know, it's it's like one of those things.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I look at it and I'm like, hey, what, what
what are we going to do here as a unit?
You know, to really help ourselves out right? What are
we what are we going to do to you know,
to create ate something that's that that that is a
manageable thing for for the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And that's that's where I have my issues, is I
don't know how how well this is going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And then what what assistance are you going to get
because most of your sisters either still with Seattle or
they moved on.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So what what are we doing here when we're rehashing this.
So that's just my thoughts about it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, I mean, I'm willing to hear anything else
that says, hey, this is completely different, but I just
I don't see that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think I really think a lot of people would
be looking for the next Dan Campbell type, you know
what I mean, Guys that are they present a strong image,
They are determined, they they are a big physicality type leader.
Things that the the images that in flashes, I think
(08:01):
they resonate with a lot of guys when you know,
the leader of the pack has got to be looking
like the.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Leader of the pack.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You know, more and more nowadays, young guys that are
aggressive and you know, upcoming, they have they have their
their stars on the rise. So I don't know if
going to a Pete Carroll was a good thing or
you know, we're going to find out, but certainly you know,
the one thing about Pete Carroll he can give Danny
(08:28):
Smith a run for the Bazuka Joe Gum, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Now he definitely is a double bubble guy, you know,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I would completely agree with that, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I think the other thing is is like kind
of when you look at you know, where the squad
is and what and what they've done. I just you know,
when I think about what he can what he can do,
I just I don't I don't put a lot of
stock or trust into it, just because I know that
(09:01):
you know, his time is going to be limited, yeah,
or a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Well, and again the leader of the pac type thing,
you know. I mean, one of the things that was
in favor I thought of Antonio Pierce was the fact
he was a former player and presented an image and
a standard that you're like, Okay, you know this is
a guy I can I can jump in line with
this guy and this is you know, this is a
big dog guy. But with Pete, I know that he
(09:29):
had established a tradition in Seattle. He was very good
there and he had his time period that was excellent.
I would think that some of the raw rass stuff
that he brings with him might wear thin with some
of the guys. But I don't know for sure. I
mean that's something that you got to go into the
locker room and talk to the guys and find out
(09:51):
is this is this the type of guy that you know,
you're you're gonna jump on board with, You're gonna lead
through you know, I mean that that sort of thing.
It depends, I guess on who he brings in as staff.
As always, that's always a huge important part of it.
So it'll be interesting to see how this thing develops
and plays out as next season arrives.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's gonna be interesting obviously.
You know what type of staff is he amassing as
well is gonna be key. That's where I think it
also is very intriguing, you know, to have him as
a part of that because his staff is just you know,
(10:31):
one of those things that I just I don't know
who he's gonna get, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, because here's the thing.
There's a number of what we got new hires going on.
People are being called, people are being chosen, people are
being signed, you know, as far as coaches in the
staff that they want, and you know, there's a run
there's only a limited amount of you know, really top
notch coordinators, position coaches, that sort of thing, and it's, uh,
(11:01):
it'll be interesting to see who gets on board with
him and who goes for it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because I mean, you know, another round of this.
Let's just face it. Is it something that that we
really we we know how this story usually ends. So
you know, are we are they willing to go through
that process right again to figure it out?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I don't know, it's it's up in the air now.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Maybe you know they made the choice. Yeah to me
that that Vegas team, And I wonder how much tom
Brady had as far as input to that. Yeah, you know,
I mean he's he's what now, he's a he's a
part owner. Okay, so I would think he's means Tom Brady.
(11:47):
Why wouldn't you consult him, Why wouldn't you bring him
into some of the thought process that you're you're potentially
gonna move, that you're gonna potentially make, especially when he's
not just Tom Brady but he's tom Brady part owner.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, no, absolutely, And I think you have to utilize
his expertise, and I wonder, you know, where he was
at in the process as far as planning it. You know,
was he in the meetings, was he in the interview process?
I know, you know, he still has playoff games and
all the other stuff. But I wonder if Mark Davis
called him in to be a part of that as well,
(12:22):
because that would be very interesting to see how much
they utilized like that, like that aspect of it. So,
I mean, once again, you know, I love Pete Carroll.
I think he's great. But at the same time, I wonder,
you know, what what did he what what what input
did he really really have?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, this is a guy that's been you know,
through the NFL grind and gris mill a number of times.
To me, it just doesn't it doesn't seem like it's
not like you're you're opening a new chapter in Vegas
with a high falutant coach, you know, and rolling forward.
(13:07):
I don't know, I'm confused by it. It seems like
more of a you know, just kind of getting comfortable
with something that is comfortable, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, you know, his his.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Qualifications are you know big, I mean, Pete Carroll was
very successful at one point in time, But is he,
you know, that guy for this team.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I don't know that. It just doesn't seem to ring
true to me. But again, you know what do I know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And especially you know when you know that it kind
of rang a little bit hollow towards the end of
his time in Seattle. True, true, right, And you're also
you're going to Vegas and you're going to a place where.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, let's just face it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I mean, it brings youth, it brings energy, it brings
something flashy. And I guess maybe because the cachet that
Pete Carroll's been to two Super Bowls one one, you know,
maybe it's a Wayne Newton type of act in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
They just went on and hired Wayne Newton as head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Exactly when it hired Wayne Newton as opposed to, Hey,
can we can we possibly talk talk about getting some
some you know, some young fan, you know, Bruno Mars type.
Let's go get Bruno Mars and open up Vegas. No, No,
Wayne Newton to work. Wayne Newton works great.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, I feel like I feel like that's where
we're at. With it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
But I got to throw in something because you reported
on this the other day. But I want to give
you an update. The Bill's Mafia has now they have
donated over one hundred thousand dollars to tight end Mark
Andrews t uh, it's a it's a charity and he's
associated when I can't remember the name of it. I
(15:01):
think it had to do with diabetes. But think about that,
the Bill's Mafia jumped on board, started off with twenty
five thousand, and then you updated it was over sixty
and then now it's crested over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Wow, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
That is that's having a heart too, you know what
I mean if anybody had you could not you could
not write a more debilitating couple of plays to go
into the offseason with than what Mark Andrews did you know?
And it's not that I have any lover whatever for
the you know, the Baltimore rat Birds, But you know what,
(15:40):
everything I've heard about Mark Andrews is he's an excellent dude.
And the fact that the way it ended, that's a
tough way to go. But you know, the Bill's Mafia fans,
hey Kudos to them, man, what a huge heart.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yep, kudos to them, and good luck this weekend against
against the chiefs. The chief is Yeah, you're gonna you're
gonna need You're gonna need all the help you can
get because you know you're not gonna get it from
the ress if you hear from Joe or or from
Joe Mixon's account, not Joe Mixon.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Hey maybe they maybe Joe would he could donate you know, Oh,
wait a minute, he's getting fined.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
That's right, he's getting fined.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I mean he needs his money back before he can go.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, anyways, if we're gonna step aside, we'll
be back with more here in the locker room. Possession
arrow you sir, as we come back inside the locker
room after these commercial breaks.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
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Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, you know, just to put a rap on some
of the coaching changes that have occurred or not occurred.
The Vikings have signed Kevin O'Connell to an extension, which
you know everybody knows has been out there for a
couple of days now. But Thevikes went fourteen and three
in a year when you know, they thought they might
be the last in their division. But in three seasons,
(17:34):
Kevin O'Connell, who's only thirty nine years old, And this
is the point that I was trying to get to
about Pete Carroll. He is young, he is energetic, he
is a kind of a fresh face. He's thirty four
and seventeen, but oh and two in the playoffs, by
the way. But Sam Donald, you know, he resurrected the
career of Sam Donald, who had a career a year
(17:56):
after bombing with the Panthers and the Jets and got
voted to his first Pro Bowl, but provol But Kevin
O'Connell is the first coach in Viking's history with multiple
seasons of at least thirteen wins.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
That says something for an.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Organization that's, you know, got such great history as do
the Vikes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it is. It's pretty awesome.
Like you said, you know, to get something of that nature.
And I wonder, you know, I still wonder, what is
you know, the future for a guy like Sam Darnold. Right,
you resurrect his career, he gets on the right path,
(18:39):
and then you know you have the playoff yips so
to speak, right again, So right, I just wonder how
that's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Well, you think the way he bombed, you know, with
Caroline in the Jets and so forth, with anybody could
have bombed you know, they then with those organizations and
how they're run. But the fact is to pair him
with somebody that seemingly understands and knows and recognizes excuse me,
the strengths and weaknesses of a quarterback and is able
(19:14):
to you know, it's very much like Arthur Smith, did
you know with the guy in Tennessee can't think of
his name right off the top? Oh yeah, with Tannehill,
Ryan Tannell. Thank you, Wesley. That's my fact checker here,
Ryan Tannehill. You know how he was able to really
resurrect his career the marriage of an offensive coordinator and
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the right quarterback. You know, think of Geno Smith. You know,
he got out there and you know, did he come
in under Carrol.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, so well, you know what I forgot about that,
You know the fact that you could take a guy
like Geno Smith who failed in a number of places
and then turned him into a upper tier quarterback.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That says a lot. Yeah, No, it does say a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I mean that's something you know, you have to
look at and you have to say, man, this is uh,
you know, pretty cool to be able to have that
opportunity to say that, hey, I got this guy, you know,
back on track, and and you know, and we're trying
to trying to do something that that's different you know
for us. You know, we had a veteran guy, but
(20:25):
really a reclamation project, I think is more so what
Geno Smith was. Sorry Wes if you I know, he's
a WVU guy. But but yeah, but I mean but
Geno Smith was pretty much you know, don't touch goods,
you know, Yeah he was.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He was like, hey, he is, he's.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Done, but we're gonna try We're gonna try and do
something with him. See if we can bring him back
to life. And they did just that. Oh they did that. Indeed,
you know, Sorry, sorry, I had a big sneeze there.
I couldn't really really control that one, got it?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
All right? Another another thing that I wanted to check
in with.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
How about this, The NFL is just opened to Steelers
them KFC in Mexico, all right, And we might have
talked about this earlier. But the thing that I love,
Oh yes, we did talk about it. But here's the
thing that I wanted to go about it. All right,
why not a Primana's or a five Guys or a
Jersey Mike's down there in Mexican.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm not sure that's a Mexicans really like that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
You know, you don't think like in Mexico right in
the middle of Mexico City, a Jersey Mike's would like
you know that that rocked the house.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Wait, what's wrong with McDonald's. Huh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We we could get into that one, but uh yeah,
it would take way too long to discuss.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I'm just going to put it that way. West. I
think Jersey Mikes is perfect. You know, it would have
been great.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What about Promanates? Now?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Now do they?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I wonder if in Mexico they like Colts Law and
their sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, I don't know, I mean, I mean, I mean,
I know they like free holees.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Beans.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay, yeah, I like beans, so I'm like, you know, beans,
beans are always good.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Traditional Mexican disine cuisine doesn't typically feature coals law as
a dish. Many Mexican restaurants do serve a variation of
cabbage salads, sometimes called ripo, which is essentially a simple
chopped cabbage with cabbage with lime juice.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh, that would be lime juice. Huh on a pan?
That might be And I mean, could it work?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It could work?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You ready for this take? I want?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I wouldn't less Permanni's all right around the world. They
just keep them in Pittsburgh. Everybody else doesn't get our thing.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
They got him in Maryland, in West Virginia and in Florida,
and you know, come to Pittsburgh if you want.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
He's all right.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I like Wes's idea. You know that's that's not bad.
We don't have to share it with the world.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
But you know something else that we got to share
with everybody. Pro Football Focus says the Steelers rookie class
ranks eighth among all teams this despite losing two big
picks in Roman Wilson and Troy Fatano, but you've got
Zach Frasier, Mason McCormick, and Peyton Wilson, who was by
the way, Peyton Wilson. You know, we haven't talked much
(23:37):
about him. That kid really had a heck of a year.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, oh, absolutely, I know, I completely agree. I think
you know, he kind of look at what Peyton's done,
you know, he's he was one of those guys that,
you know, was a guy that we're like, Okay, well
maybe when he gets you know, his legs underneath him,
maybe he'll get a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You know, he'll be a situational guy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But I mean you're right, I mean he absolutely like
crushed it for the team.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
He was a machine, you know, And I think that's
what's kind of really cool about it was seeing him
you know, not only not only not only like you know,
play well, but also do some stuff that was that
was like, you know, really athletic. I mean, his sideline
the sideline coverage was good, you know, that was that
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was something I was like, man, this is pretty pretty
awesome to watch him kind of go through the paces
and and like you said, not be the best tackler.
At the beginning on the edges, but then eventually, you know,
getting to the point where he, you know, was actually
in the starting lineup. He was considered for a lot
of those things, which I thought was which I thought
(24:55):
was really cool for him.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean, you know what he was in the
he was in It started off early in the pass
heavy downs or yeah, pass heavy downs. He's a coverage guy,
I mean, with that four to four speed, a guy
that you know, you weren't sure what exactly how you know,
with the Landon Roberts and Pat Queen, I mean, those
two very accomplished linebackers there. But he he he earned
(25:17):
his way into the lineup, you know, I mean, there's
there's no two ways about it. This kid really had
a good year. I'm really excited about his future. He
comes back with maybe you know, another five to eight
pounds of muscle, you know, get a little bit bigger,
retain that speed and man, I mean the big bang
that he could be capable of producing.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And he certainly you.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Know who where did that interception he got? It was
one of the most amazing things. He intercepted a guy
like you know, rolling across him. And after at the
when he hit the ground and he just took the
ball off the chest of the guy. You know, it
was like amazing to watch that, to have that sort
of reaction and reflex. His has said everything about, Wow,
(26:01):
this this kid could be a real playmaker here.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, man.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean he was a guy that you're sitting there,
You're like, man, you know what what what can be done?
And the play like you said, the playmaking skill. I
thought that he that he showed was was pretty was
pretty fantastic. I mean he was he was all over
the place and you could see that. You know, when
you got a guy like Landon Roberts is kind of
one of your one of your like choices, you know,
(26:29):
to learn from r I was like, dude, you can't
you can't beat the experience that was that was giving
up with that opportunity. So now I'm with you. I
think I think it was really cool to have that
and and you can see he took he took to
it really fast.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Oh he did. Yeah, I mean he was he was
making plays early. He was making plays. Like just watching
him operate, I gave me a great deal of comfort
for the future of that inside lineback after the craziness
of the years before four, when you know we're running,
you're out on the streets trying to find an inside
linebacker to play.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So now having this young man be able to cut
the rug as well as he did his first year,
knows someone going there, that's like an old old statement.
Cut the rug, right, cut the rug? Yeah, look at you.
Yeah yeah, but you know, I look at this rookie class,
I mean for eighth okay, but you know what you
think about it? What the future of Roman Wilson, the
(27:27):
future of Troy Fatano. Man, I'm excited about what they
could accomplish next year, especially when I put on the
tape of of Patana of Troy. You know, it was
just watching him in Denver, you know, get that start
and gad zooks, man, the young man looked. He looked
well in place at right tackle there and doesn't matter
(27:50):
where they play him, but you know, he just looked
like a pro football player in that game.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Now, oh absolutely, I mean I think that that's what's
going to be really nice to see. You know, when
time is when when when time is on our side,
right and get those guys healthy and we get to
start a new season. What what is going to be
the impact of those guys. And that's what I'm really
excited about. I'm really excited to see what does that
(28:17):
mean for, you know, for the future of this offensive line.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What what the rotation is going.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
To be as well, Right, that's gonna be That's gonna
be the other cool thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
And then you also look at Roman Wilson. Yeah, my
goodness man. You know, I mean, like all season long,
there's that little throbbing underbeat of you know, what, what's
Roman up? What's up with Roman? You know, especially when
you're talking about the future of the wide receiver room
and you're trying to stack some bodies in there and
get some people that you know can do the long
(28:49):
ball and everything else in between. That kid there is
intriguing to me. Again when you watch his college high
highlight film, I mean it's amazing, and the ability for
him to prosper in this offense, I think is there's
a great opportunity for this kid to come in and
do some good things next year.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
No, I mean, I mean it's it's about the opportunity
of maturity, right, I Mean, that's what we're always looking
for right, where's the maturity at for these young guys
and and you know, and whatever it was, you know
that that did not allow him to get on quote
unquote the moving train at the time. You know, I
(29:29):
think I think that that will definitely be something that
we will you know, hear about.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But more importantly, it's moving.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Forward with that, right and knowing that, hey, some guys
might take a little bit longer, you know, to uh,
to mature than others or be ready for what's there.
There's always a transition period we're always wondering about, right,
And so hopefully with Roman, you know, he had a
great time learning this year and that he will be
ready to rock and roll because I think I think
(30:00):
his skill set is going to be needed, especially when
you're hearing about talking about, oh, we need a number
two receiver. Well, you know, do you need a number
two receiver if if one of your draft pick guys
actually ends up working out right?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I mean, you know, let's face it, I mean, if
you really want to get it, we can get into
it later on or something or next week. But you know,
look at the receiver room for the Steelers, essentially your
number one receiver was Pat Fryarmouth. I mean sixty five catches.
George Pickens said fifty nine. You know, George had over
(30:38):
one hundred targets, where Mooth did it on his fifty
His sixty five receptions was on seventy eight targets alone.
You know, I mean, hey, you know, you take a
look at Travis Kelcey for instance. You know, yeah, he
gets around eighty to one hundred catches a year, but
he's also getting targets of one hundred and fifty, you know,
one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty. You know,
(31:01):
it's about It's not always about you know, are you
are you number one or number two? It's about how
many targets you get, you know, That's the essential thing
about it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, No, it's definitely about those targets. Indeed, And I
think that's what you kind of have to kind of
have to say, Okay, well, you know, what what are
we what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Well? Who are you putting the eggs in what basket?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
You give them that opportuncity?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, and I think I think that's where that's where
we're like, Okay, well, you know, let's see, let's see
what it's going to be like and I can't wait
to see. I can't wait to see what that what
that is going to look like? Right, because I think
it can be something that could be really beneficial for
our team to have to have these guys, you know,
in a position to where they can be successful.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, no doubt about it, No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Okay, I've jumped all over the place there and we're
gonna come back because it's the Bell Lap with Max
coming up, and you are listening to this Steels Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
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Speaker 2 (32:56):
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Speaker 3 (33:02):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Your early lunch warning system is available for not only
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woefully is starving. He needs food and apparently, you know,
when you think about it, the the fridge that seems
to have unrelenting goodness did not did not deliver today.
(33:26):
So this is early lunch warning for him as well.
He doesn't have to wait for any I don't have
to wait for any postgame press conferences, he doesn't have
to do any other shows. In fact, if anything, Wolf,
I know that I'm also you know once I'll say
it again, condolences.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
To you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But you know, another thing that I think is, uh,
you know, apparent safe travels this weekend, because aren't you
Are you guys leaving today or tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I know, leaving today after the show's over of
the passion of a very godly woman in my life,
my aunt Joy who passed away, got her heavenly home coming.
And uh so we're going to go celebrate the fact
I celebrate a life well lived, and that will be
in Buffalo, be there and going to meet Ronnie there,
(34:18):
my brother ron Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Know, I know.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
He said he was leaving today when I talked to him. Yeah,
gave him condolences as well. So, yeah, is the whole
clan coming up going with you?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
The whole clan can't come, can't make the trip has
because of things that were already planned and you can't
get out of Yeah, and so one of those things.
But I, as the eldest male, got to be there,
you know. That's the way.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yes, you you must do the job.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yes, representing family responsibility absolutely, you know. So that is
that is my privilege, and I will be there to
support Hoopy, which, by the way, somebody else on the
X thing or Twitter or whatever you call it, they
said hot
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right back inside the locker room, and it is
the Power Hour. It's okay, Optimist Wolf's still hungry. But
so yeah, so you have muffins on your truck today,
but apparently you want to throw you know, throw a
little banana banana banana bread or something off.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I mean something geez, little victals.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Heread, Oh yeah, banana nut bread man, you know, monkey bread,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Anything in the.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Baked goods department, we do not shy away from it.
Once again, we sacrifice for the greater good of the
tea Wolf. That's why we eat the way that we do.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We have to.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Cakes and pies, cakes and pies.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
We sacrifice day in and day out.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, it's just it's not fair.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It's not fair, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I mean those days you go home, you know after
lifting weights and stuff like that, you know, Yeah, you
don't want to burden a wife, you know with a
little lunchrification.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Right, So you roll through Wendy's.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
You know, you got like three triple burgers and of
course you added some fries in there. You gotta have
a little something to kind of back it up there.
You know, you get your potatoes and stuff like that.
Then you get a diet coke. You know, you cut
those calories where you can.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know, you got to.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, but you know, but I do want to turn
back to something that you brought in. Oh, right before
we left, Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh yeah, new head coach of the Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Raiders, the Raid Ice the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You got to say it like that.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, Chris Mortenson the Raid.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, yeah, Chris Mortenson used to say that, what do
you what are your thoughts about Pete Carroll running it
back one more gain?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You know, it's just kind of funny. It's like a
recycling of old coaches. You know, I don't know that
it seems to me like if you're the Vegas franchise,
and I know they went Antonio Peers, but that was
again a product of that, you know, that that crazy
situation where you have an interim coach where he's got
some success, and then guys like feed off it, like yeah,
(02:46):
this is the new, latest, greatest, you know, coaching guide
to emerge, and then it doesn't work so good, you know,
because it's not really well thought out. It's simply a
wave of emotion and so forth coming emanating from the
locker room because well, you know, you take over the
team and it's not doing so well, and then you
do some good things and you're thinking, hey, this guy
(03:06):
can do it all the way around. Well it didn't
didn't happen, you know. And that's that's one of the
things that I always think about. Chuck Noll always used
to say, change for the sake of change is no
change at all. And I know that that's it can
be for some people. You know, they sit there and go, oh, well,
then you're just quagmired and and you know the old
(03:27):
stuff and this and that. But you know, there's a
truism to it, and it's all about, you know, when
you selectively make that move, And it's about number one
thing is you got to know ahead of time who
you have in mind and the possibilities of getting that person.
And I don't know I really don't have a good
either way about Pete Carroll. I hear good things about him,
(03:51):
of course, you know, he's had a great deal of success,
But at the same time, I'm thinking, I don't know,
maybe it's like the Raiders just kind of recycling something old.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think, you know, it's something where I get you
one experience, But at the same time, how open are
you really to trying to change this organization for a
long term, And I feel like it's just a quick fix.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
In the moment right there.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I know, you give Pete Carroll a three year deal,
but this also is not a spry guy.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, it's not like you're.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hiring a coach in his fifties, right, You're hiring a
guy well into his seventies.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, to come manage your team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And listen, I get Pete Carroll's an outlayer as far
as the way that he brings his energy, the way
that he approaches things. He still has a very youthful
mind and very you know, very relatable with a lot
of guys. But at the same time, you can't fight age,
you can't fight father time, and you know, and to
(04:54):
go in such a stark opposite direction of what you
had just a year ago.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, AP's a young.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
For former player coach who's risen up through the ranks
really quickly, and you only give them one year and
you give them some crappy tools to play with to
try and make something. It would be like me telling you, hey, wolf,
by the way, I need you to go make a house.
But the only thing I'm gonna give you is some
popsicle sticks and some two.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Day old play though that has has had the lid off.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, let me give you
fresh play. Though it's the old play.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It might have a couple of other colors mixed into it,
you know when kids mix them together. You know, we
just we put it in the container, but we forgot
the lid. But I need you to make me a
working house. Also at indoor plumbing, I got I got some,
I got some I got some connect PVC left over, Right,
you know what I'm saying, Like like that, that's what
I feel like it kind of well, you know has been.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
If you really were serious about Antonio Pierce, don't you
think you would have settled the quarterback situation that didn't
include a couple of guys you know, one Gardner Minshew,
who was the other guy? I can't think of them,
but you know, neither quarterback. It strikes a chord as
far as being a legitimate starting NFL quarterback over a
(06:07):
long season. You know, I'm not talking about somebody that
can fit in for two to four to six weeks,
you know, in the case of injury. I'm talking about
guys that can go one to seventeen and be productive.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I mean, and and and that, and that's what
you need.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, and I think you know, when you look
at this squad how it was built and constructed a
year ago. Defensively, you have some good pieces, but they
also weren't healthy. And you're gonna need a quarterback. That's
the other thing. And and listen, I don't think Russ
and Pete Carroll are going to get back together anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But you know, it's it's like one of those things.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I look at it and I'm like, hey, what, what
what are we going to do here as a unit?
You know, to really help ourselves out right? What are
we what are we going to do to you know,
to create ate something that's that that that is a
manageable thing for for the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And that's that's where I have my issues, is I
don't know how how well this is going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And then what what assistance are you going to get
because most of your sisters either still with Seattle or
they moved on.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So what what are we doing here when we're rehashing this.
So that's just my thoughts about it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, I mean, I'm willing to hear anything else
that says, hey, this is completely different, but I just
I don't see that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think I really think a lot of people would
be looking for the next Dan Campbell type, you know
what I mean, Guys that are they present a strong image,
They are determined, they they are a big physicality type leader.
Things that the the images that in flashes, I think
(08:01):
they resonate with a lot of guys when you know,
the leader of the pack has got to be looking
like the.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Leader of the pack.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You know, more and more nowadays, young guys that are
aggressive and you know, upcoming, they have they have their
their stars on the rise. So I don't know if
going to a Pete Carroll was a good thing or
you know, we're going to find out, but certainly you know,
the one thing about Pete Carroll he can give Danny
(08:28):
Smith a run for the Bazuka Joe Gum, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Now he definitely is a double bubble guy, you know,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I would completely agree with that, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I think the other thing is is like kind
of when you look at you know, where the squad
is and what and what they've done. I just you know,
when I think about what he can what he can do,
I just I don't I don't put a lot of
stock or trust into it, just because I know that
(09:01):
you know, his time is going to be limited, yeah,
or a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Well, and again the leader of the pac type thing,
you know. I mean, one of the things that was
in favor I thought of Antonio Pierce was the fact
he was a former player and presented an image and
a standard that you're like, Okay, you know this is
a guy I can I can jump in line with
this guy and this is you know, this is a
big dog guy. But with Pete, I know that he
(09:29):
had established a tradition in Seattle. He was very good
there and he had his time period that was excellent.
I would think that some of the raw rass stuff
that he brings with him might wear thin with some
of the guys. But I don't know for sure. I
mean that's something that you got to go into the
locker room and talk to the guys and find out
(09:51):
is this is this the type of guy that you know,
you're you're gonna jump on board with, You're gonna lead
through you know, I mean that that sort of thing.
It depends, I guess on who he brings in as staff.
As always, that's always a huge important part of it.
So it'll be interesting to see how this thing develops
and plays out as next season arrives.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's gonna be interesting obviously.
You know what type of staff is he amassing as
well is gonna be key. That's where I think it
also is very intriguing, you know, to have him as
a part of that because his staff is just you know,
(10:31):
one of those things that I just I don't know
who he's gonna get, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, because here's the thing.
There's a number of what we got new hires going on.
People are being called, people are being chosen, people are
being signed, you know, as far as coaches in the
staff that they want, and you know, there's a run
there's only a limited amount of you know, really top
notch coordinators, position coaches, that sort of thing, and it's, uh,
(11:01):
it'll be interesting to see who gets on board with
him and who goes for it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, because I mean, you know, another round of this.
Let's just face it. Is it something that that we
really we we know how this story usually ends. So
you know, are we are they willing to go through
that process right again to figure it out?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I don't know, it's it's up in the air now.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Maybe you know they made the choice. Yeah to me
that that Vegas team, And I wonder how much tom
Brady had as far as input to that. Yeah, you know,
I mean he's he's what now, he's a he's a
part owner. Okay, so I would think he's means Tom Brady.
(11:47):
Why wouldn't you consult him, Why wouldn't you bring him
into some of the thought process that you're you're potentially
gonna move, that you're gonna potentially make, especially when he's
not just Tom Brady but he's tom Brady part owner.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, no, absolutely, And I think you have to utilize
his expertise, and I wonder, you know, where he was
at in the process as far as planning it. You know,
was he in the meetings, was he in the interview process?
I know, you know, he still has playoff games and
all the other stuff. But I wonder if Mark Davis
called him in to be a part of that as well,
(12:22):
because that would be very interesting to see how much
they utilized like that, like that aspect of it. So,
I mean, once again, you know, I love Pete Carroll.
I think he's great. But at the same time, I wonder,
you know, what what did he what what what input
did he really really have?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, this is a guy that's been you know,
through the NFL grind and gris mill a number of times.
To me, it just doesn't it doesn't seem like it's
not like you're you're opening a new chapter in Vegas
with a high falutant coach, you know, and rolling forward.
(13:07):
I don't know, I'm confused by it. It seems like
more of a you know, just kind of getting comfortable
with something that is comfortable, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, you know, his his.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Qualifications are you know big, I mean, Pete Carroll was
very successful at one point in time, But is he,
you know, that guy for this team.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I don't know that. It just doesn't seem to ring
true to me. But again, you know what do I know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And especially you know when you know that it kind
of rang a little bit hollow towards the end of
his time in Seattle. True, true, right, And you're also
you're going to Vegas and you're going to a place where.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, let's just face it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I mean, it brings youth, it brings energy, it brings
something flashy. And I guess maybe because the cachet that
Pete Carroll's been to two Super Bowls one one, you know,
maybe it's a Wayne Newton type of act in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
They just went on and hired Wayne Newton as head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Exactly when it hired Wayne Newton as opposed to, Hey,
can we can we possibly talk talk about getting some
some you know, some young fan, you know, Bruno Mars type.
Let's go get Bruno Mars and open up Vegas. No, No,
Wayne Newton to work. Wayne Newton works great.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, I feel like I feel like that's where
we're at. With it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
But I got to throw in something because you reported
on this the other day. But I want to give
you an update. The Bill's Mafia has now they have
donated over one hundred thousand dollars to tight end Mark
Andrews t uh, it's a it's a charity and he's
associated when I can't remember the name of it. I
(15:01):
think it had to do with diabetes. But think about that,
the Bill's Mafia jumped on board, started off with twenty
five thousand, and then you updated it was over sixty
and then now it's crested over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Wow, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
That is that's having a heart too, you know what
I mean if anybody had you could not you could
not write a more debilitating couple of plays to go
into the offseason with than what Mark Andrews did you know?
And it's not that I have any lover whatever for
the you know, the Baltimore rat Birds, But you know what,
(15:40):
everything I've heard about Mark Andrews is he's an excellent dude.
And the fact that the way it ended, that's a
tough way to go. But you know, the Bill's Mafia fans,
hey Kudos to them, man, what a huge heart.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yep, kudos to them, and good luck this weekend against
against the chiefs. The chief is Yeah, you're gonna you're
gonna need You're gonna need all the help you can
get because you know you're not gonna get it from
the ress if you hear from Joe or or from
Joe Mixon's account, not Joe Mixon.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Hey maybe they maybe Joe would he could donate you know, Oh,
wait a minute, he's getting fined.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
That's right, he's getting fined.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I mean he needs his money back before he can go.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, anyways, if we're gonna step aside, we'll
be back with more here in the locker room. Possession
arrow you sir, as we come back inside the locker
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Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, you know, just to put a rap on some
of the coaching changes that have occurred or not occurred.
The Vikings have signed Kevin O'Connell to an extension, which
you know everybody knows has been out there for a
couple of days now. But Thevikes went fourteen and three
in a year when you know, they thought they might
be the last in their division. But in three seasons,
(17:34):
Kevin O'Connell, who's only thirty nine years old, And this
is the point that I was trying to get to
about Pete Carroll. He is young, he is energetic, he
is a kind of a fresh face. He's thirty four
and seventeen, but oh and two in the playoffs, by
the way. But Sam Donald, you know, he resurrected the
career of Sam Donald, who had a career a year
(17:56):
after bombing with the Panthers and the Jets and got
voted to his first Pro Bowl, but provol But Kevin
O'Connell is the first coach in Viking's history with multiple
seasons of at least thirteen wins.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
That says something for an.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Organization that's, you know, got such great history as do
the Vikes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it is. It's pretty awesome.
Like you said, you know, to get something of that nature.
And I wonder, you know, I still wonder, what is
you know, the future for a guy like Sam Darnold. Right,
you resurrect his career, he gets on the right path,
(18:39):
and then you know you have the playoff yips so
to speak, right again, So right, I just wonder how
that's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Well, you think the way he bombed, you know, with
Caroline in the Jets and so forth, with anybody could
have bombed you know, they then with those organizations and
how they're run. But the fact is to pair him
with somebody that seemingly understands and knows and recognizes excuse me,
the strengths and weaknesses of a quarterback and is able
(19:14):
to you know, it's very much like Arthur Smith, did
you know with the guy in Tennessee can't think of
his name right off the top? Oh yeah, with Tannehill,
Ryan Tannell. Thank you, Wesley. That's my fact checker here,
Ryan Tannehill. You know how he was able to really
resurrect his career the marriage of an offensive coordinator and
(19:36):
the right quarterback. You know, think of Geno Smith. You know,
he got out there and you know, did he come
in under Carrol.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, so well, you know what I forgot about that,
You know the fact that you could take a guy
like Geno Smith who failed in a number of places
and then turned him into a upper tier quarterback.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That says a lot. Yeah, No, it does say a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I mean that's something you know, you have to
look at and you have to say, man, this is uh,
you know, pretty cool to be able to have that
opportunity to say that, hey, I got this guy, you know,
back on track, and and you know, and we're trying
to trying to do something that that's different you know
for us. You know, we had a veteran guy, but
(20:25):
really a reclamation project, I think is more so what
Geno Smith was. Sorry Wes if you I know, he's
a WVU guy. But but yeah, but I mean but
Geno Smith was pretty much you know, don't touch goods,
you know, Yeah he was.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He was like, hey, he is, he's.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Done, but we're gonna try We're gonna try and do
something with him. See if we can bring him back
to life. And they did just that. Oh they did that. Indeed,
you know, Sorry, sorry, I had a big sneeze there.
I couldn't really really control that one, got it?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
All right? Another another thing that I wanted to check
in with.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
How about this, The NFL is just opened to Steelers
them KFC in Mexico, all right, And we might have
talked about this earlier. But the thing that I love,
Oh yes, we did talk about it. But here's the
thing that I wanted to go about it. All right,
why not a Primana's or a five Guys or a
Jersey Mike's down there in Mexican.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm not sure that's a Mexicans really like that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
You know, you don't think like in Mexico right in
the middle of Mexico City, a Jersey Mike's would like
you know that that rocked the house.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Wait, what's wrong with McDonald's. Huh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We we could get into that one, but uh yeah,
it would take way too long to discuss.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I'm just going to put it that way. West. I
think Jersey Mikes is perfect. You know, it would have
been great.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What about Promanates? Now?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Now do they?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I wonder if in Mexico they like Colts Law and
their sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, I don't know, I mean, I mean, I mean,
I know they like free holees.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Beans.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay, yeah, I like beans, so I'm like, you know, beans,
beans are always good.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Traditional Mexican disine cuisine doesn't typically feature coals law as
a dish. Many Mexican restaurants do serve a variation of
cabbage salads, sometimes called ripo, which is essentially a simple
chopped cabbage with cabbage with lime juice.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh, that would be lime juice. Huh on a pan?
That might be And I mean, could it work?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It could work?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You ready for this take? I want?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I wouldn't less Permanni's all right around the world. They
just keep them in Pittsburgh. Everybody else doesn't get our thing.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
They got him in Maryland, in West Virginia and in Florida,
and you know, come to Pittsburgh if you want.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
He's all right.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I like Wes's idea. You know that's that's not bad.
We don't have to share it with the world.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
But you know something else that we got to share
with everybody. Pro Football Focus says the Steelers rookie class
ranks eighth among all teams this despite losing two big
picks in Roman Wilson and Troy Fatano, but you've got
Zach Frasier, Mason McCormick, and Peyton Wilson, who was by
the way, Peyton Wilson. You know, we haven't talked much
(23:37):
about him. That kid really had a heck of a year.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, oh, absolutely, I know, I completely agree. I think
you know, he kind of look at what Peyton's done,
you know, he's he was one of those guys that,
you know, was a guy that we're like, Okay, well
maybe when he gets you know, his legs underneath him,
maybe he'll get a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You know, he'll be a situational guy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But I mean you're right, I mean he absolutely like
crushed it for the team.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
He was a machine, you know, And I think that's
what's kind of really cool about it was seeing him
you know, not only not only not only like you know,
play well, but also do some stuff that was that
was like, you know, really athletic. I mean, his sideline
the sideline coverage was good, you know, that was that
(24:34):
was something I was like, man, this is pretty pretty
awesome to watch him kind of go through the paces
and and like you said, not be the best tackler.
At the beginning on the edges, but then eventually, you know,
getting to the point where he, you know, was actually
in the starting lineup. He was considered for a lot
of those things, which I thought was which I thought
(24:55):
was really cool for him.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean, you know what he was in the
he was in It started off early in the pass
heavy downs or yeah, pass heavy downs. He's a coverage guy,
I mean, with that four to four speed, a guy
that you know, you weren't sure what exactly how you know,
with the Landon Roberts and Pat Queen, I mean, those
two very accomplished linebackers there. But he he he earned
(25:17):
his way into the lineup, you know, I mean, there's
there's no two ways about it. This kid really had
a good year. I'm really excited about his future. He
comes back with maybe you know, another five to eight
pounds of muscle, you know, get a little bit bigger,
retain that speed and man, I mean the big bang
that he could be capable of producing.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And he certainly you.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Know who where did that interception he got? It was
one of the most amazing things. He intercepted a guy
like you know, rolling across him. And after at the
when he hit the ground and he just took the
ball off the chest of the guy. You know, it
was like amazing to watch that, to have that sort
of reaction and reflex. His has said everything about, Wow,
(26:01):
this this kid could be a real playmaker here.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, man.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean he was a guy that you're sitting there,
You're like, man, you know what what what can be done?
And the play like you said, the playmaking skill. I
thought that he that he showed was was pretty was
pretty fantastic. I mean he was he was all over
the place and you could see that. You know, when
you got a guy like Landon Roberts is kind of
one of your one of your like choices, you know,
(26:29):
to learn from r I was like, dude, you can't
you can't beat the experience that was that was giving
up with that opportunity. So now I'm with you. I
think I think it was really cool to have that
and and you can see he took he took to
it really fast.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Oh he did. Yeah, I mean he was he was
making plays early. He was making plays. Like just watching
him operate, I gave me a great deal of comfort
for the future of that inside lineback after the craziness
of the years before four, when you know we're running,
you're out on the streets trying to find an inside
linebacker to play.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So now having this young man be able to cut
the rug as well as he did his first year,
knows someone going there, that's like an old old statement.
Cut the rug, right, cut the rug? Yeah, look at you.
Yeah yeah, but you know, I look at this rookie class,
I mean for eighth okay, but you know what you
think about it? What the future of Roman Wilson, the
(27:27):
future of Troy Fatano. Man, I'm excited about what they
could accomplish next year, especially when I put on the
tape of of Patana of Troy. You know, it was
just watching him in Denver, you know, get that start
and gad zooks, man, the young man looked. He looked
well in place at right tackle there and doesn't matter
(27:50):
where they play him, but you know, he just looked
like a pro football player in that game.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Now, oh absolutely, I mean I think that that's what's
going to be really nice to see. You know, when
time is when when when time is on our side,
right and get those guys healthy and we get to
start a new season. What what is going to be
the impact of those guys. And that's what I'm really
excited about. I'm really excited to see what does that
(28:17):
mean for, you know, for the future of this offensive line.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What what the rotation is going.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
To be as well, Right, that's gonna be That's gonna
be the other cool thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
And then you also look at Roman Wilson. Yeah, my
goodness man. You know, I mean, like all season long,
there's that little throbbing underbeat of you know, what, what's
Roman up? What's up with Roman? You know, especially when
you're talking about the future of the wide receiver room
and you're trying to stack some bodies in there and
get some people that you know can do the long
(28:49):
ball and everything else in between. That kid there is
intriguing to me. Again when you watch his college high
highlight film, I mean it's amazing, and the ability for
him to prosper in this offense, I think is there's
a great opportunity for this kid to come in and
do some good things next year.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
No, I mean, I mean it's it's about the opportunity
of maturity, right, I Mean, that's what we're always looking
for right, where's the maturity at for these young guys
and and you know, and whatever it was, you know
that that did not allow him to get on quote
unquote the moving train at the time. You know, I
(29:29):
think I think that that will definitely be something that
we will you know, hear about.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But more importantly, it's moving.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Forward with that, right and knowing that, hey, some guys
might take a little bit longer, you know, to uh,
to mature than others or be ready for what's there.
There's always a transition period we're always wondering about, right,
And so hopefully with Roman, you know, he had a
great time learning this year and that he will be
ready to rock and roll because I think I think
(30:00):
his skill set is going to be needed, especially when
you're hearing about talking about, oh, we need a number
two receiver. Well, you know, do you need a number
two receiver if if one of your draft pick guys
actually ends up working out right?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I mean, you know, let's face it, I mean, if
you really want to get it, we can get into
it later on or something or next week. But you know,
look at the receiver room for the Steelers, essentially your
number one receiver was Pat Fryarmouth. I mean sixty five catches.
George Pickens said fifty nine. You know, George had over
(30:38):
one hundred targets, where Mooth did it on his fifty
His sixty five receptions was on seventy eight targets alone.
You know, I mean, hey, you know, you take a
look at Travis Kelcey for instance. You know, yeah, he
gets around eighty to one hundred catches a year, but
he's also getting targets of one hundred and fifty, you know,
one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty. You know,
(31:01):
it's about It's not always about you know, are you
are you number one or number two? It's about how
many targets you get, you know, That's the essential thing
about it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, No, it's definitely about those targets. Indeed, And I
think that's what you kind of have to kind of
have to say, Okay, well, you know, what what are
we what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Well? Who are you putting the eggs in what basket?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
You give them that opportuncity?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, and I think I think that's where that's where
we're like, Okay, well, you know, let's see, let's see
what it's going to be like and I can't wait
to see. I can't wait to see what that what
that is going to look like? Right, because I think
it can be something that could be really beneficial for
our team to have to have these guys, you know,
in a position to where they can be successful.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, no doubt about it, No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Okay, I've jumped all over the place there and we're
gonna come back because it's the Bell Lap with Max
coming up, and you are listening to this Steels Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Speaker 2 (32:56):
All right, we are inside the Bell LABU.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Your early lunch warning system is available for not only
your pleasure, but for our pleasure as well, because Craig
woefully is starving. He needs food and apparently, you know,
when you think about it, the the fridge that seems
to have unrelenting goodness did not did not deliver today.
(33:26):
So this is early lunch warning for him as well.
He doesn't have to wait for any I don't have
to wait for any postgame press conferences, he doesn't have
to do any other shows. In fact, if anything, Wolf,
I know that I'm also you know once I'll say
it again, condolences.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
To you.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But you know, another thing that I think is, uh,
you know, apparent safe travels this weekend, because aren't you
Are you guys leaving today or tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I know, leaving today after the show's over of
the passion of a very godly woman in my life,
my aunt Joy who passed away, got her heavenly home coming.
And uh so we're going to go celebrate the fact
I celebrate a life well lived, and that will be
in Buffalo, be there and going to meet Ronnie there,
(34:18):
my brother ron Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Know, I know.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
He said he was leaving today when I talked to him. Yeah,
gave him condolences as well. So, yeah, is the whole
clan coming up going with you?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
The whole clan can't come, can't make the trip has
because of things that were already planned and you can't
get out of Yeah, and so one of those things.
But I, as the eldest male, got to be there,
you know. That's the way.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yes, you you must do the job.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yes, representing family responsibility absolutely, you know. So that is
that is my privilege, and I will be there to
support Hoopy, which, by the way, somebody else on the
X thing or Twitter or whatever you call it, they
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