January 27, 2025 • 42 mins
The locker room debates the tush push, and if new legislation is needed in the trenches.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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and by FedEx. Where now meets next? Now here's Craig
Wolfley and Max Stark's.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A right, we are well within the power hour. Oh
that's right, Optimists.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
No SAMs flip membership for you because you are too
busy to go shopping anyways. Our number two here something
I do want to bring our attention to that happened yesterday.
Wolf and I want to see if you knew this.
But did you know that the referees could have awarded
the Eagles a touchdown against the Commanders if they would
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have jumped off sides one more time after do it
at four consecutive times in a row on the goal line.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It was interesting to me. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They happened to be out in the kitchen making getting
a little food, you know. And I heard, as I'm going.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, you getting food out of a kitchen during a
football game at your house, say it ain't so I
can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, you know, so they're they're they're making an announcement
about you know, they can award points.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They could award a touchdown, they could award a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And it was Sean Hockley.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Who was who was who was the referee, and he
made the statement over the air and he went explained
it to both sides, but he was saying that if
they kept jumping off sides that they were going to
because remember the first one was.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The linebacker, wasn't it the line.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, Frankie Louvu, Yeah, Louvu jumped early over the pile.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And then Alan.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I think it was, I think it was Alan Jonathan
Allen lined up in the neutral zone. And then the
other time it was oh it was and it was
Louvu again for for like launching, this time encroaching. And
then if they would have done it a fourth time,
they would have just awarded them the the touchdown. So
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it was just crazy that because I had never heard
of that rule before.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's why I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm like, has Wolf Everard, because I'm like, you've been
in this, you know, you've been You've been calling games
a lot longer than I have.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I'm like, and I pretty much. I thought I'd seen.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
A lot, but I had never heard that before.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I was like, man, I cannot wait to ask
Wolf on the show because it was crazy and there
wasn't like there was a rule specifically to point to it.
It's a judgment called by the referee, Yes, no doubt
if it's impeding the progress of play. But I'm like,
but you know, it's funny. Do you do you remember
when when they went back and showed the overhead skycam view.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of Jalen Hurts calling the play. No, I miss that, So.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, so what they oh, that's right, because you were
in the kitchen. So what they showed, they like, they
showed Jalen Hurts and the call, and I noticed something
that was like very minuscule sure to most people, but
to me, it was like huge.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So you see.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Jalen Hurts at the top of his helmet, right, and
you see him calling the cadence, calling the Cadence. But
then and so you can see because they have the
white pants on, you can see that there's visible white
in the pants where the front of the helmet is,
you know, to see it. But then at one point
when he was in the cadence his helmet moved, you know,
I would say about six inches forward when he was
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calling the cadence, and that's what caused him to jump
off side. And I was like, it's like that right there,
that right there, you know what I'm saying in my head,
I'm like, that would be an that would be a
false start on the quarterback because you can't dart your
head forward because the white disappears on the pants and
you can see the front of the helmets over the jersey.
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So I'm like, technically he is lunched forward and six
inches that's a big difference, you know, when you're on
that goal line and a quarterback's head, because that's what
he's doing when he's about to initiate a touch push right,
the head goes forward, the hands come underneath, the tuck
the ball, and he's diving forward.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I'm like, man, so I was a little I
was a little honked off about that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm like, well, do the referees get that type of
view when they get to view a penalty or because
it's an encroachment false start, they don't even get to
review that to see if that's something that could be
an actionable offense. Because it's technically not shown on the
end stadium camera because that's a television skycam, right, and
it's also not available on your surface tablet on the side.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, the interesting thing is, like you said, when you
got a head bob, you're just simply trying to draw
them off sides, you know, and you saw a definitive
action from the fact that you had the overhead viewpoint
and then looking to see that they had indeed moved
considerably forward because you could not see the white of
the pants from the overhead view. So simply put, all
that adds up to one thing, just your head bobbing
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and you're trying to draw them off sides. And it
was a kind of there was a there was some
calls that you know in both games that were a
little interesting, but yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? Though,
you know, in the aftermath they didn't call it. I
guess they didn't see it, And so you're left with,
you know, that that penalty where you're being threatened that
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if you do it one more time, you're gonna award points. Well, naturally,
you're gonna make sure you're behind the count now because
you don't want to just give them the points.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But you know, yeah, I mean you're a rocket a
hard place and that's that play so tough to defend man,
And you know what it's.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Like, I could really do that. It's a scrub, it's
a rugby scrut. But I mean think about it. You're
down there, you are coiled for action. I mean, you
are vibrating, you are listening to the quarterback's command and
hopefully you've got the ability to hear. I can't even
imagine what it would be like to run, you know,
with you know, on a on a silent count, but
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listening to the quarterback. If somebody even like sneezes or
just would it's a pigpile coffs, yeah, coughs a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I mean that's how tense it is down there. You've
got to get leverage. You've got to drive that guy
one way or another to you know, give some sort
of gap in that depending on what the play is
called and so forth. And with they're running like a
six to one tackles out or whatever, you know, where
they're they're they're moving to a gap. But certainly the
thing is you've got to turn their heads. If you
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turn the head, you turn the body and and and
then you you're able to create some sort of a
little gap for the backs. That was the way it
was played in my day. Now with the wide you know,
you got, everything is so wide open, it seems like,
you know, except for when they go for the tush push.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, tush push is your one you know, kind of
exception yeah, exceptional type of play. And and even still,
it's so tough to try and predict when is it
going to happen, when is it not going to happen?
You know, you're and here's the thing, You're never right Wolf,
that's the other thing. You're You're never right. Whatever you decide,
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you're going to lose it. And you know, and Jalen
Hurts is a big enough body that he could he
could make that happen easily.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I, by the way, I have to commend Jalen
Hurts because I thought he was hurt a little. I
thought he had banged up his knee and everything. I
thought it was interesting going to the game plan, how
the the wash coms were saying, hey, you know, we
got to make sure that he proves that he's okay.
You're gonna make make him prove that knee is okay.
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And he certainly did. I'll tell you what. He threw
that ball better than I've seen him throw in the
last couple of weeks, you know, I mean, he really
did a nice job. And and and the other thing
that jumps out is how do you start a game
with the guy going a toss pitch toss crack and
the guy goes sixty yards right away?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My goodness, I mean, that's just that's unbelievable. And to
think that they did that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Landon Dickerson, who could barely walk, played that first half,
and then they got the other guy, what was it, Cam? Oh, yeah,
the center, you know, because he had his back was
hurting him and so he didn't start the game. And
so Landon Dickerson moved over and got his knee hurt
and he could barely walk, but he played that first
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half and did it. You know, a pretty decent job
for a guy that was basically one I get. But
that running game, that offensive line, it tells you so
much about good I mean about spending money properly for
your offensive line. You gotta get those big people movers
and man, they have people movers, Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
People movers, sun blotters, you know what I'm saying, Like
like they're they're walking skyscrapers, Uh, you know, moving walls.
Whatever you want to say about something ginormous. That that
that's every adjective you could use describe that offensive line
for the Eagles. I mean, man, do you see how
clean Saquon gets through the hole when they run counter?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I know, I mean if you see the seal, the
pin and poll go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, the pinn and poll.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's it's it's an absolute thing. I mean, it's it's
teaching tape essentially, is what it is. It's teaching tape.
But the problem is you'll have enough of those humans
walking the earth that could do what they do. So
it makes it even more you know, kind of either
good or bad, depending on how you view it. Right,
good from a learning standpoint, bad because you you could
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lust after one all you want, You're not going to
find him that often.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, it's so funny when you watch Mecky Beckton the
right Guard. But Mackay, MacKaye, I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Mackay Beckton pulling from the
right guard with the trailer.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Uh. Then the guy next to him who is Landon Johnson,
Lane Johnson yep, and him too, for the sake of journalist.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Journalistic.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, you think I'd get Lane's name right because he
is He's actually married to the daughter of one of
my former teammates, you know, so you think, yeah, you might.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But then but then again, he's dating the daughter. So
do you really give him that respect? He's married, I'm saying,
I'm saying, but do you really give him that much
respect because it technically is your your behooved to the daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They're supposed to be on her side.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
True, true, But you know, I got a lot of
respect for Lean's He's quite he's quite a player and
a pretty darn good guy from everything I heard. But
the fact is they pull on that that pin and pull.
So you got the kickout. So you got Mackay Beckton
coming down at three hundred and eighty pounds. I got
about a five to six yard.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Run at the end. Man on the line if he.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Doesn't squeeze it quite correctly, who's about and at least
one hundred and fifty pounds lighter than him. And I'm
telling you, you watch him, it's almost like he just
belly bounces him, you know what I mean. He comes up, Yeah,
the guy goes to buying and you see him just
bounce people out of the way. And then you got
Lane turning up. And it's like you said, the number
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of times that you see Saquon Barkley just passed through
that that that you know, that intersectional point between you know,
the kickout and the turn up through that gap, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's it's a it's a thing of beauty and a
thing of frustration when you're the other team, right, you
want that stop and you're expecting that stop and then
you can't get that stop, and it's just I mean,
I'm just I'm sitting there and I'm just like, man, why.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Can't we you know, why can't you find more like that?
I mean, that's the way the tape is supposed to
be ran.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
When you want to run gap you know, counterman type
of schemes, this is how it's run at That's where
I think, you know, I've learned my lesson about picking
against the against the chiefs, But man, it's so tough
when you see something like that and you see him
put up fifty five points, right, I mean, and it
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just looks so easy to them, and you say.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Man, but what happens.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
The Chiefs just have a way of neutralizing whatever type
of momentum and scoring and everything else that you could
come up with, you know. And that's where it's just
it's so tough to pick this game. And we'll pick
it next week. But man, man is it? Is it tough?
And you know, I would say this. You got the
two best teams in the NFL going head to head
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for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So there was no mistakes. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You can hope all you want, but proof is in
the pudding and the actual play, and both these teams
earn their way to super Bowl fifty nine to take
place next week in New Orleans. All right, well, if
we're gonna step aside, possession Arrow goes back to you
after this, then we'll be back with more here inside
the locker room after these commercial breaks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This is in the Locker Room, presented by Ford and
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Pepsi and by FedEx. Where now meets next? Now here's
Craig Wilfley and Max Starr.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Oh yes, yes, indeed, how about this Max Ben Johnson,
the Bear's new head coach. Guess who he hired? A
former teammate of yours. My friend, did you see Antoine
Randallell going to Chicago?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I saw that as what the assistant head coach and
wide receivers coach.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yes, assistant head coach and wide receiver coach. Just as
you said, of course, Antoine was the Lions wide receiver coach.
And Ben Johnson stepping over from Detroit to Chicago. Interesting
that he pulled some from the staff there. But you know,
I will say this, I love Antoine and you know
I had you know, you know him better he was
a teammate. But I'll never forget. We went to Mexico
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City with the Steelers as a as a group to
do some stuff down there, you know, for you know,
football clinics and stuff like that for the kids. And
we traveled as a group together down the way down.
Then on the way back people had different you know,
takeoff times and so forth. So we're going through customs
and down there in Mexico City. Dead Gummy, you got
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a computer thing? And I'm like completely bamboozled. I'm just
standing there looking at going. You gotta be kidding me.
I mean like this is like I could be in
Mexico for forever. I can't. I can't figure this out.
I got my passport, I got this computer. I can't
figure out how I'm supposed to put what information from
my passport into this computer that's driving me nuts. Antoine
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just happened to be going buying and he looks at
me and goes, hey, what's up? And I told him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He goes, but boo boo boo bink, and I'm true.
It was like, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's I mean, we've traveled together, Max, You know how
bad I am at travel stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And travel to Mexico together as we Yes we have,
Yes we have. I will say your onboarding into country
was a lot smoother this last time. It was just
getting out that we had we had to make sure
everything was squared away.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, we had issues there, and you, of course, being
being a good teammate that you are, make sure the
old man got to Destiny.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You had your technology technologied up. I could let you
did that one handed too. That was like amazing, just amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, strong thumbs, strong thumbs, man, strong thumbs.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But no, I mean I'm happy for l.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I really wished he would have gotten the OC job
because I would have loved to have seen what he
could have done as a OC.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Hmmm, because he's so creative.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And also he's a former quarterback, so you know, that's
where I think, you know, I think there is value
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I know they're looking.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
At another guy trying to was he with the Broncos.
Is it like a tight ends coach or something? But
he was, but he was on Dan Campbell's staff back
at the beginning. Ben Johnson is looking to bring him in.
But I would have loved to have seen what l
could have done there. And you know, assistant head coach,
I mean obviously that comes with a lot more pay.
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It's a you know, it's a title that if things
do go wrong or a head coach has to be
you know, it has to step aside.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He's the first guy in to be the head coach.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's that's what that kind of assistant associate head coach
title is but I would love to have seen what
l could have done as a OC, especially with Caleb Williams,
to really kind of, you know, give him a chance
to really spread his wings, because I think Elle's very
creative and very forward thinking, so that would have been
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a big asset. But once again, Ben has him on
the staff, so I imagine he'll say something in the
staff meetings.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
No doubt about it. I would think Antoine, one of
the things I loved most was the joy he played
football with. You know, he was just one of those
guys that was always an energy bringer. It was one
of those guys that was always joyful. It seemingly, you know,
from a distance and and you know, watching him, I'll
never forget that one punt return that he scored on
when he slid into the end zone. I mean like
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he was sliding into home plate.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It was.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It was just a sheer expression of his joyfulness and
returning a punt for a touchdown. It was just great
and it was awesome to watch. But just the way
he slid in the end zone, it was classic Antoine Randelel.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean it was it was classic.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And you know, one of the things I think that's
gonna be a big addition is just the mindset and
mentality that he brings, right, and it's always pushing forward,
it's always trying to, you know, get that the best
out of that group. And I think he's gonna have
a really good group to work.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
With in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh, no doubt that receiving that's the receiving room is
stacked with talent. You got a veteran in Keenan Allen,
you got DJ Moore, you know Roma Dunze who.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They just drafted this past year coming in there.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So, I mean that's a good start to figure out
what can we do to kind of break this, break
this code and unlock the best potential out of everybody,
Caleb included. And I think he's gonna he's gonna be
a major factor of that success.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, do you believe what goes around comes around? Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Car Yes, Okay, so so and carousels and carousels. Right,
So who's who who had the worst drop experience? Was
it Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid. Oh, but I gotta
go with Mark because Mark had multiple well he did
have the fumble, right yeah. And then with I go
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with Mark because of the fact that he could have
tied the game. It was right there, Yes, Dalton Kincaid
would have extended, yeah, and it was right there. It
was pretty much pitch and catch, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It very easily? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, he was alone on the goal line, hit him
on the chest, bounced off his chest, threw his hands incomplete.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I wonder how their off seasons are going to go.
I mean again, the worst thing you can do is
have a really bad game in the last game of
the year that that means something, you know, you just
you go in that offseason. All you can do is
see darkness, you know, because you mark Andrews, you fumbled
for the first time since twenty nineteen. You mark Andrews,
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you had the two point conversion that would have tied
the game. You know, in the playoffs there it's a terrible,
terrible burden to carry, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Again.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I remember Touch having the game against the La Raiders.
It was eighty three, I think it was, and anyhow,
he gave up three sacks to Lyle Alzada, which I
was watching some of the tape the other day and
I'm looking at Benny Cunningham, like Benny was six y
five two ninety I mean, that's a big tight end
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back in the day, all right that it's still a
big tight end nowadays. But he was way ahead of
his time. God bless Benn. He was a great guy.
But he like, you know, on like a wall left
or a Liz he would he would like he's like
getting in front of Alzato, only he's shielding tounch and
and banging Touch. I mean, it was it was terrible.
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It was like he picked him three times.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I remember, Touch was screaming at Betty, just go out,
don't touch him, don't do anything, just leave you know, Oh, it's.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Release it to the route stopping acts protecting. Yes, I
know what the quarterback said, but I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You, yeah, get away from me. I remember.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
It was just you know, it's just a terrible moment.
And listen, as a tackle, we all have been there.
I mean, I'll never forget in Baltimore. You know, we're
we're on a sixties protection, which is a five man
pro with the with the running back scan right, so
it ends up being six man pro. And I just remember,
you know, this was in the height of the school
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yard defense, the walk around defense that Baltimore used to
do where nobody would line up at a set position
at three point. Everybody was in two point and just
walking around back and forth, so you could never get
a beat on what gap they were responsible for. So
we were always tall, Hey, get off the ball two
sets and let let it play itself out because they
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have to declare.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But by then, so.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I just remember setting back, and you know, and Suggs
was kind of he was in it like the mic
backer position, like walking up between the A and the
B gap. Uh, taunting and now I get hiccups, So
this is gonna be fun. Uh, and and just trying
to trying to go to us off side, trying to
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get us to make to change our call. But you know,
we do in our head this is what they do, right,
So we're all going to set off the.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Ball and wait for it to clear up.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then you know, Willie Parker at the time, will
Willy just takes whoever else is. You know, I prefer
to leave him the in man on the line of
scrimmage because the furthest distance of the quarterback. Right with
all this muddling going on, but I also knew there
was a chance that you know, I would be head
up over like Suggs would be head up over me
by the time it came rush time. So I set
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off the ball twice, waiting for it to clear up.
But sure enough Suggs could wrapping around from the A
gap to come outside and run and run rush contained
And as I'm going to set on him, Willy you know,
stops crouched.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now, fired off and hit the back of my knee.
Friendly fire.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Friendly fire, because he was going for the cut block,
ends up taking me out. I tore my moniscus in
my right knee, and I was just like, oh my god,
Ben Ben got sacked because both then guys.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
To blind him.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You guys were in Baltimore one time, and he had
like twelve sacks. It was like unbelievable. No, I wasn't there.
That was actually funny because that was early in the season.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And I want to say, Willy got injured in that game,
and I wasn't signed.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
With the team, okay at that time. All right, so
this I watching this, No, No, this is after me. Okay, yeah,
but I mean this is when you weren't there. Yeah,
when I wasn't there. So I wasn't there during.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The eleven season at the beginning. Okay, so I'd missed
the first.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Four games in that season.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
This was like week one, week two, So I missed
week weeks one through four, and then they brought me
in for Week five against Jacksonville that same season, so
I'd watched that game and Ben was getting killed. I
watched that Seattle game where you know, you know, Mike
Adams was setting on the edge and went to toss
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the guy wide, but he ended up like slingshotting him
and Ben got hit and we thought Ben was injured.
That was the next and then finally they called me like, hey,
now now you gotta come back in. And at this point,
because this is after I had hurt my neck, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So so they were like, ah, we're gonna we're gonna
hold off.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Year, and you know, I ended up getting released that
year right before training camp. That was the lockout season
as well, so it was like a lot of stuff
going on, and they bring him back week five against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But I remember what I was like.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I was like, man, I was like, they just pretty
much bought half the fuel for his ticket to Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah. After that game was.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
H Yeah, So I was like I was like I
was kidded about that, and then when we played on
the second time, shut him out, shut him out.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He had here.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I just don't want to say it loud loud, but
you know BA should have been here, right.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, exactly, Like, Hey, hey, I'm just saying I know,
I know, I know sometimes you think the grass is greener,
but sometimes it's just spray paint and so you know,
But I mean, but you know, it is what it
is is nature of this business, right, I mean, you
know you're you're gonna have to sometimes you have to
find out the hard way. But I just I think
about that, I think about you know, just kind of
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what that what that challenge is.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I hate when guys, you know, when you have to
figure it out and like you know, guys get miscommunicated.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, no doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I mean, a multi sack game for an opposition team
just decimates an offensive line, you know, I mean, you get,
you get. I remember when we went up to Denver
one time and we had Carl Mecklenberg. We had all
these Mecklenburg rules which broke the basic rules, foundational principles
of our past protection. But they were like Jordan rules,
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they were Mecklenbig Mecklenburg rules, and we just I think
he had four sacks and we gave up bottle of
a bunch of sacks. I don't even know how many
it was, but it was just because it violated all
the rules of communication at the last instant in a
loud outdoor venue such as Miles High was at that time,
created huge problems and we simply were It was just
(26:53):
so stupid. It was, you know, guys, we got two
or three guys on one guy and he got two
guys running free. You know, I mean, it was just crazy.
So the next time we played Denver, which was I
think in that same year, but late in the year,
we simply went with, okay, just go with the normal rules.
You know, there's nothing special about this guy. Just forget it,
(27:14):
because he had been on a sack there doing well
and everything early on, and that's why they change the rules.
But then the second time around.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Just do it. We shut them out.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It was just like, duh, we should just stuck with
that the first time, because at least if everybody is
on there, you know p's and q's, if everybody knows
what's going on, at least you got a better chance
than having you know, the foundational rules uniformly pulled, and
then you're just looking for this one guy. You know,
it just created a fiasco that was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah no, And it's tough because you know, you want
to communicate, you want to be clean, you want to
have everything pretty in your mind, right, because you practiced
all week a certain way. Yeah, right, and then when
you get to the game and it's like it's nothing
like you anticipated, and you're trying to you know, it's
(28:08):
essentially like trying to douse the fires.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's like I brought one bucket because I thought there
was only one flame, right, and then you get there
there's like seven different locations with one flame, and you're
just like, oh god, okay, what's the priority. Okay, get
the first thing first out of the way. Okay, now
get to say, ah, man, a ball snapped.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Just like it's such a frenzy of communication. I mean,
and you know, the good teams, you know, you can
figure it out. And that's why we're offensive lines, especially Wolf.
I think this is a great point to bring up.
This is why time and experience together really matters. Oh yeah,
because you've got to be able to think how the
other guy thinks, because then you're more efficient. If he
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sees how I see it, I don't have to tell
him right because he knows. He knows what I know,
so he's going to make the appropriate adjustments. And when
you see younger or newer offensive lines together or guys inserted,
you know, you know that don't really catch what's going
on or can match the intensity of the moment. That's
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when guys have shorter careers. That's when guys get injured,
That's when guys have problems. But an offensive line, you
can't fast track that. Sometimes you have to go through
those growing pains. You have to go through those ugly moments.
And that's why I feel encouraged at about our current
youthful line. They got a lot of meaningful reps except
for Troy Faltano, but Mason McCormick, Zach Fraser got meaningful
reps that are going to propel them hopefully for the
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next season.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Absolutely, you know again in telling people about the how
a line comes together, then grows and manifests itself and play.
Right now, as we're watching the Philly Eagles, along with
Saquon Barkley. Look, it's I know, it's it's hard to distinguish.
You got a great running back and a great offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Is that the line? You know, it's a chicken or egg.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You know it's both because you can't take one from
the other. The two of them together are just a
potent formula for just putting the run game back in
the in the prime spotlight, you know. I mean just
watching him just undo, uh, you know the team, it
was just unbelievable. I mean the way they just pounded away.
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I look at that, and I think that's a fun
line to play in. That's the joy of physical, physical
type football. When you can pound away like that and
you got your your running back going sixty yards in
the very first play of the game. What a better
way to punch your opponent right in the mouth than
right away?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, Well, here's the thing. Well, and you can test
this offensive line. What's our favorite direction?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Forward?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, we don't like backwards. We'll take we'll take some sideways,
but we want to go vertical. We don't want to
go horizontal, and we darn sure don't want to go backwards.
We want to go forward. At least to it and
almost to like a you know, a little forty five
degree angle forward. We want that range because that when
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you get to be the aggressor and not the reactor, yep, right,
you get to go be proactive in this offense and
you get to and you get to go impose your
will upon an opponent. When you go into pass pro
you know, all day you're you're just you're just you're
just there so you don't get get in trouble.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
True word. All right, that's a wrap here on this segment.
We got the possession Arroll turn into Max as we
go into the Bell Lap Writer in the locker.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Room and you're listening to the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
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Speaker 2 (32:13):
All right, here we go. We've got the Bell Lap.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's right, your Monday Monday late morning edition, you know,
but of course early lunch Warning system out there for
all Steelers Nation to go, get out, go for it,
enjoy your favorite meal. It's a Monday. It's not a
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you're gonna feel yourself off right and get yourself going
(32:40):
for the week. I want to make sure we give
a huge thank you to Rob King once again for
coming into the locker room sitting on.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
The castle ship thrown aka chair.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, you might want to delineate exactly what wow, yeah, wowow.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is. Uh, you know, it's always awesome to have
him in there. And like I said, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
He's he's he's Uh, we're we're a trio, right, that
trio during that segment.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We know we're we're still a quad quad plus more.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know, come game day, whole production family shout out
dan Quinlan of course, and of course Wesley does this
same exact job, except for way more buttons to push
and way more stress level on game day as our
engineer as well, you know. And then of course we've
got the spot and crew Dinny and company also, you know,
roaming in the background making sure everybody knows who everybody
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is down the field because they look like ants from
the booth, but you know, great day to day talking
and sharing. Of course, we had the NFC and AFC
championship games just yesterday, and of course we saw it'll
be a super Bowl repeat.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
What do you think about this? How about this? Kenny
Pickett's going on to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Technically there has to be somebody.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Wait, Trubiskys was with Buffalo, right Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Bo I find it's a little ironic, but I mean,
good for Kenny. Hey, look, you know it didn't work
out here. He asked to be traded, all right, so
he got traded. Good for him that he's got an
opportunity to experience the Super Bowl as a player and all.
It's still to me, it doesn't add up. I don't
know about you. I would rather be a day in,
(34:31):
day out starter in the NFL, experience all that startered
him and all that sort of stuff, than be a
guy that's a backup that goes to the super Bowl.
I know the super Bowl is magnificent, but I love
to play the game and I always wanted to be
a player, you know, and Kenny. I think Kenny will
someday be that guy. But you know, the fact of
the matter is this is this isn't like he's the
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starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
But again, I don't wish anything bad for Kenny at all.
I like the kid, you know, I just just think
he made a really poor choice in maybe not thinking
things through, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, about thinking about a clear path to where he
could play sooner participate in lead and you know, I
mean because that's that's a part of the quarterback DNA, right,
you know, I want to play. I mean, just like
every other position wants to, but quarterback especially and when
you kind of go behind another younger guy unless injury,
(35:30):
which is what got Kenny out there. Actually it gets
the Commanders in the regular season. Then he got injured,
you know, that got him out there. Now here's the
thing I will say, Kenny has not done anything to
prove that his health is any better because he's still
getting injured and still missing time even even as a backup.
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So you know, there's there is that thing. So I
you know, will there even be an opportunity for him
to do that later down the line with his given
his history, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
There's truth in that, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, I think he just jumped at you know, pulling
the trigger on a trade asking for a trade because
he felt gob smacked over you know, Russ being brought
in when in fact that could have.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Been the greatest learning experience of his life. You know.
But again that's just now, that's past history either.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yeah, neither here nor there. Yeah right, but he yeah,
he's going to Super Bowl. He has a chance at
a ring, you know, with his new team. But you know,
good luck to him and god speed to you know,
to him and all the other guys in the Eastern
PA when they make it down there too, you know,
to New Orleans to get ready and prep and of course.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'll be I'll be roaming. I'll be roaming.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The uh the field Monday night, so you know, I
know I can't. I'm not going to promote another station
on here, but I do work elsewhere. If you if
you check my social media.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay, and uh, I will be doing I will.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Be conducting player interviews, uh that night, that Super Bowl
Monday night, which is like their their media.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Day that used to happen on Tuesdays. Okay, remember super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It now becomes a Monday night type of event in
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They bring each team in individually.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Allow for all of us pool reporters to kind of
go in there and interview them and and you know,
cut cutting slice interviews, so we can have to play
throughout the week.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So it's a it's a fun time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
It's crazy, you know when you think about, like, you know,
the jobs that I get to.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Do, it's a cool one because I mean our job
is an interview jobs.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yes, like Pro Bowl games, Max has NFL jobs.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Jobs.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, oh you lazy bum I got I got Turty
five job. But yeah, no, it's it's uh, it's gonna
be fun. And all that kicks off next Monday, so
a week from today, I'll be down there, and of
course I'll be coming to you live in the locker
room from New Orleans all next week and of course
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sharing my thoughts and interact.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Great, we're gonna have like live right from the Yeah,
I ma actually gotta get some guests down there.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I know Tom Cruise for the show. Yeah, exactly, exactly,
Hey Tom, how is it?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
How how did you have a promannings when you're here
filming Jack Reacher.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
No, what I wanted to know was how long did
it take to actually get the gumption to drive that
motorcycle off the mountain and then paraglide down that. I'm
sorry that end up story there. I would have died
out of paralysis by analysis going down the grounds rushing
at me and I can't think what a.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Pull it's like as he said something about rip it,
and I'm not sure if he meant like rip it
you know that way, or rip it the other way.
You know, there's a lot of a lot of things,
and this wind is getting in my face.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's making it tough for me to breathe, and I
can't even Okay, there we go and then things end
real quick. They they had real quick. I mean definitely,
Oh I see hart.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Stop these people that that do that, that jumping off
you know, the bridge jumping or whatever they call it, you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Know, I mean that's just crazy, just crazy man.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, well, remember when you remember when bungee courting was
like a fad that everybody wanted to I'm like, I
don't understand how you could tie a rubber band to
your legs and willingly jump off of you know, a
ridiculous height. And how do you know that they know
the right length of this bungee, you know, and the
weight capacity of it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, two things you and I are heavily concerned with.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, exactly because physics, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
No, there is physics.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
But it's like, yeah, your weight, you know, calculating acceleration distinction.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Hold this, and I've seen Bungie still snap. You guys
a lot lighter than me, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
You know, it's fair parachute supposed to work, right, but
it's not guaranteed, well.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Not guarantee need to open when you pull the cord.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
How many times have you gone to the fair, to
the carnival or something like that and you see somebody like, uh,
you know, securing the ride and it doesn't look like
they're making a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
In the rides, and figure, well, I would say that, yeah,
that's going every state fair. Yeah, that's every state fair.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Across the base, the base legs are all rusty and
like have been holding out since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Right right, You see that, You see the duct tape
marks where they try they used to duct tape it,
but accordingly they might have found this new magical latch.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And I'm like, give me the duct tape as well.
Duct tape's still sticky.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Go to county fairs. All right, head for the corn dogs.
Stay away from the carnival rides.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yes, exactly, stay away from gravitron. Listen that I don't
trust the gravitron. I'm like, because you spending a high
thing and I just feel like it ends up being
like a blender without the lid on it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I'm that's I saw.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Always been my fear, you know, when you spin around
in a circle long enough? Uh so, oh god, but
any who, we will digress. That was that was that
was that was the mind of the locker room. Brought
to you by you know, pre dementia anyways.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
No, just joking.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Uh but no, we'll yeah, don't count it out just yet.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
This this this episode brought to you by Prevagen.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
No uh no, but but no, we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
We'll be back of course tomorrow, same BAT channel, saying
Bat time here with more inside the locker rooms. We
kind of go around the league and of course, you know,
tell our stories and who knows, you know, we'll have
some more guests throughout the week, uh leading up and
then of course super Bowl week. It will be my
jet task to be a gopher and go get some
interviews as well for us.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You know, who knows, maybe we'll find a former player.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Or two down there roaming around, uh that we could
we can possibly bring on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
But with that we bid you adu.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
He's Craig Wolfully on Max Stark's Western Dealer Ones and twos,
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
A right, we are well within the power hour. Oh
that's right, Optimists.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
No SAMs flip membership for you because you are too
busy to go shopping anyways. Our number two here something
I do want to bring our attention to that happened yesterday.
Wolf and I want to see if you knew this.
But did you know that the referees could have awarded
the Eagles a touchdown against the Commanders if they would
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have jumped off sides one more time after do it
at four consecutive times in a row on the goal line.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It was interesting to me. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They happened to be out in the kitchen making getting
a little food, you know. And I heard, as I'm going.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, you getting food out of a kitchen during a
football game at your house, say it ain't so I
can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, you know, so they're they're they're making an announcement
about you know, they can award points.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They could award a touchdown, they could award a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And it was Sean Hockley.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Who was who was who was the referee, and he
made the statement over the air and he went explained
it to both sides, but he was saying that if
they kept jumping off sides that they were going to
because remember the first one was.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The linebacker, wasn't it the line.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, Frankie Louvu, Yeah, Louvu jumped early over the pile.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And then Alan.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I think it was, I think it was Alan Jonathan
Allen lined up in the neutral zone. And then the
other time it was oh it was and it was
Louvu again for for like launching, this time encroaching. And
then if they would have done it a fourth time,
they would have just awarded them the the touchdown. So
(02:30):
it was just crazy that because I had never heard
of that rule before.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's why I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm like, has Wolf Everard, because I'm like, you've been
in this, you know, you've been You've been calling games
a lot longer than I have.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I'm like, and I pretty much. I thought I'd seen.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
A lot, but I had never heard that before.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I was like, man, I cannot wait to ask
Wolf on the show because it was crazy and there
wasn't like there was a rule specifically to point to it.
It's a judgment called by the referee, Yes, no doubt
if it's impeding the progress of play. But I'm like,
but you know, it's funny. Do you do you remember
when when they went back and showed the overhead skycam view.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of Jalen Hurts calling the play. No, I miss that, So.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, so what they oh, that's right, because you were
in the kitchen. So what they showed, they like, they
showed Jalen Hurts and the call, and I noticed something
that was like very minuscule sure to most people, but
to me, it was like huge.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So you see.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Jalen Hurts at the top of his helmet, right, and
you see him calling the cadence, calling the Cadence. But
then and so you can see because they have the
white pants on, you can see that there's visible white
in the pants where the front of the helmet is,
you know, to see it. But then at one point
when he was in the cadence his helmet moved, you know,
I would say about six inches forward when he was
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calling the cadence, and that's what caused him to jump
off side. And I was like, it's like that right there,
that right there, you know what I'm saying in my head,
I'm like, that would be an that would be a
false start on the quarterback because you can't dart your
head forward because the white disappears on the pants and
you can see the front of the helmets over the jersey.
(04:18):
So I'm like, technically he is lunched forward and six
inches that's a big difference, you know, when you're on
that goal line and a quarterback's head, because that's what
he's doing when he's about to initiate a touch push right,
the head goes forward, the hands come underneath, the tuck
the ball, and he's diving forward.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I'm like, man, so I was a little I
was a little honked off about that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm like, well, do the referees get that type of
view when they get to view a penalty or because
it's an encroachment false start, they don't even get to
review that to see if that's something that could be
an actionable offense. Because it's technically not shown on the
end stadium camera because that's a television skycam, right, and
it's also not available on your surface tablet on the side.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, the interesting thing is, like you said, when you
got a head bob, you're just simply trying to draw
them off sides, you know, and you saw a definitive
action from the fact that you had the overhead viewpoint
and then looking to see that they had indeed moved
considerably forward because you could not see the white of
the pants from the overhead view. So simply put, all
that adds up to one thing, just your head bobbing
(05:23):
and you're trying to draw them off sides. And it
was a kind of there was a there was some
calls that you know in both games that were a
little interesting, but yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? Though,
you know, in the aftermath they didn't call it. I
guess they didn't see it, And so you're left with,
you know, that that penalty where you're being threatened that
(05:45):
if you do it one more time, you're gonna award points. Well, naturally,
you're gonna make sure you're behind the count now because
you don't want to just give them the points.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But you know, yeah, I mean you're a rocket a
hard place and that's that play so tough to defend man,
And you know what it's.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Like, I could really do that. It's a scrub, it's
a rugby scrut. But I mean think about it. You're
down there, you are coiled for action. I mean, you
are vibrating, you are listening to the quarterback's command and
hopefully you've got the ability to hear. I can't even
imagine what it would be like to run, you know,
with you know, on a on a silent count, but
(06:27):
listening to the quarterback. If somebody even like sneezes or
just would it's a pigpile coffs, yeah, coughs a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I mean that's how tense it is down there. You've
got to get leverage. You've got to drive that guy
one way or another to you know, give some sort
of gap in that depending on what the play is
called and so forth. And with they're running like a
six to one tackles out or whatever, you know, where
they're they're they're moving to a gap. But certainly the
thing is you've got to turn their heads. If you
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turn the head, you turn the body and and and
then you you're able to create some sort of a
little gap for the backs. That was the way it
was played in my day. Now with the wide you know,
you got, everything is so wide open, it seems like,
you know, except for when they go for the tush push.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, tush push is your one you know, kind of
exception yeah, exceptional type of play. And and even still,
it's so tough to try and predict when is it
going to happen, when is it not going to happen?
You know, you're and here's the thing, You're never right Wolf,
that's the other thing. You're You're never right. Whatever you decide,
(07:38):
you're going to lose it. And you know, and Jalen
Hurts is a big enough body that he could he
could make that happen easily.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I, by the way, I have to commend Jalen
Hurts because I thought he was hurt a little. I
thought he had banged up his knee and everything. I
thought it was interesting going to the game plan, how
the the wash coms were saying, hey, you know, we
got to make sure that he proves that he's okay.
You're gonna make make him prove that knee is okay.
(08:09):
And he certainly did. I'll tell you what. He threw
that ball better than I've seen him throw in the
last couple of weeks, you know, I mean, he really
did a nice job. And and and the other thing
that jumps out is how do you start a game
with the guy going a toss pitch toss crack and
the guy goes sixty yards right away?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My goodness, I mean, that's just that's unbelievable. And to
think that they did that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Landon Dickerson, who could barely walk, played that first half,
and then they got the other guy, what was it, Cam? Oh, yeah,
the center, you know, because he had his back was
hurting him and so he didn't start the game. And
so Landon Dickerson moved over and got his knee hurt
and he could barely walk, but he played that first
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half and did it. You know, a pretty decent job
for a guy that was basically one I get. But
that running game, that offensive line, it tells you so
much about good I mean about spending money properly for
your offensive line. You gotta get those big people movers
and man, they have people movers, Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
People movers, sun blotters, you know what I'm saying, Like
like they're they're walking skyscrapers, Uh, you know, moving walls.
Whatever you want to say about something ginormous. That that
that's every adjective you could use describe that offensive line
for the Eagles. I mean, man, do you see how
clean Saquon gets through the hole when they run counter?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I know, I mean if you see the seal, the
pin and poll go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, the pinn and poll.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's it's it's an absolute thing. I mean, it's it's
teaching tape essentially, is what it is. It's teaching tape.
But the problem is you'll have enough of those humans
walking the earth that could do what they do. So
it makes it even more you know, kind of either
good or bad, depending on how you view it. Right,
good from a learning standpoint, bad because you you could
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lust after one all you want, You're not going to
find him that often.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, it's so funny when you watch Mecky Beckton the
right Guard. But Mackay, MacKaye, I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Mackay Beckton pulling from the
right guard with the trailer.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Uh. Then the guy next to him who is Landon Johnson,
Lane Johnson yep, and him too, for the sake of journalist.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Journalistic.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, you think I'd get Lane's name right because he
is He's actually married to the daughter of one of
my former teammates, you know, so you think, yeah, you might.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But then but then again, he's dating the daughter. So
do you really give him that respect? He's married, I'm saying,
I'm saying, but do you really give him that much
respect because it technically is your your behooved to the daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They're supposed to be on her side.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
True, true, But you know, I got a lot of
respect for Lean's He's quite he's quite a player and
a pretty darn good guy from everything I heard. But
the fact is they pull on that that pin and pull.
So you got the kickout. So you got Mackay Beckton
coming down at three hundred and eighty pounds. I got
about a five to six yard.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Run at the end. Man on the line if he.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Doesn't squeeze it quite correctly, who's about and at least
one hundred and fifty pounds lighter than him. And I'm
telling you, you watch him, it's almost like he just
belly bounces him, you know what I mean. He comes up, Yeah,
the guy goes to buying and you see him just
bounce people out of the way. And then you got
Lane turning up. And it's like you said, the number
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of times that you see Saquon Barkley just passed through
that that that you know, that intersectional point between you know,
the kickout and the turn up through that gap, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's it's a it's a thing of beauty and a
thing of frustration when you're the other team, right, you
want that stop and you're expecting that stop and then
you can't get that stop, and it's just I mean,
I'm just I'm sitting there and I'm just like, man, why.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Can't we you know, why can't you find more like that?
I mean, that's the way the tape is supposed to
be ran.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
When you want to run gap you know, counterman type
of schemes, this is how it's run at That's where
I think, you know, I've learned my lesson about picking
against the against the chiefs, But man, it's so tough
when you see something like that and you see him
put up fifty five points, right, I mean, and it
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just looks so easy to them, and you say.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Man, but what happens.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
The Chiefs just have a way of neutralizing whatever type
of momentum and scoring and everything else that you could
come up with, you know. And that's where it's just
it's so tough to pick this game. And we'll pick
it next week. But man, man is it? Is it tough?
And you know, I would say this. You got the
two best teams in the NFL going head to head
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for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So there was no mistakes. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You can hope all you want, but proof is in
the pudding and the actual play, and both these teams
earn their way to super Bowl fifty nine to take
place next week in New Orleans. All right, well, if
we're gonna step aside, possession Arrow goes back to you
after this, then we'll be back with more here inside
the locker room after these commercial breaks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
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Craig Wilfley and Max Starr.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Oh yes, yes, indeed, how about this Max Ben Johnson,
the Bear's new head coach. Guess who he hired? A
former teammate of yours. My friend, did you see Antoine
Randallell going to Chicago?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I saw that as what the assistant head coach and
wide receivers coach.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yes, assistant head coach and wide receiver coach. Just as
you said, of course, Antoine was the Lions wide receiver coach.
And Ben Johnson stepping over from Detroit to Chicago. Interesting
that he pulled some from the staff there. But you know,
I will say this, I love Antoine and you know
I had you know, you know him better he was
a teammate. But I'll never forget. We went to Mexico
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City with the Steelers as a as a group to
do some stuff down there, you know, for you know,
football clinics and stuff like that for the kids. And
we traveled as a group together down the way down.
Then on the way back people had different you know,
takeoff times and so forth. So we're going through customs
and down there in Mexico City. Dead Gummy, you got
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a computer thing? And I'm like completely bamboozled. I'm just
standing there looking at going. You gotta be kidding me.
I mean like this is like I could be in
Mexico for forever. I can't. I can't figure this out.
I got my passport, I got this computer. I can't
figure out how I'm supposed to put what information from
my passport into this computer that's driving me nuts. Antoine
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just happened to be going buying and he looks at
me and goes, hey, what's up? And I told him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He goes, but boo boo boo bink, and I'm true.
It was like, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's I mean, we've traveled together, Max, You know how
bad I am at travel stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And travel to Mexico together as we Yes we have,
Yes we have. I will say your onboarding into country
was a lot smoother this last time. It was just
getting out that we had we had to make sure
everything was squared away.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, we had issues there, and you, of course, being
being a good teammate that you are, make sure the
old man got to Destiny.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You had your technology technologied up. I could let you
did that one handed too. That was like amazing, just amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, strong thumbs, strong thumbs, man, strong thumbs.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But no, I mean I'm happy for l.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I really wished he would have gotten the OC job
because I would have loved to have seen what he
could have done as a OC.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Hmmm, because he's so creative.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And also he's a former quarterback, so you know, that's
where I think, you know, I think there is value
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I know they're looking.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
At another guy trying to was he with the Broncos.
Is it like a tight ends coach or something? But
he was, but he was on Dan Campbell's staff back
at the beginning. Ben Johnson is looking to bring him in.
But I would have loved to have seen what l
could have done there. And you know, assistant head coach,
I mean obviously that comes with a lot more pay.
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It's a you know, it's a title that if things
do go wrong or a head coach has to be
you know, it has to step aside.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He's the first guy in to be the head coach.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's that's what that kind of assistant associate head coach
title is but I would love to have seen what
l could have done as a OC, especially with Caleb Williams,
to really kind of, you know, give him a chance
to really spread his wings, because I think Elle's very
creative and very forward thinking, so that would have been
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a big asset. But once again, Ben has him on
the staff, so I imagine he'll say something in the
staff meetings.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
No doubt about it. I would think Antoine, one of
the things I loved most was the joy he played
football with. You know, he was just one of those
guys that was always an energy bringer. It was one
of those guys that was always joyful. It seemingly, you know,
from a distance and and you know, watching him, I'll
never forget that one punt return that he scored on
when he slid into the end zone. I mean like
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he was sliding into home plate.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It was.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It was just a sheer expression of his joyfulness and
returning a punt for a touchdown. It was just great
and it was awesome to watch. But just the way
he slid in the end zone, it was classic Antoine Randelel.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean it was it was classic.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And you know, one of the things I think that's
gonna be a big addition is just the mindset and
mentality that he brings, right, and it's always pushing forward,
it's always trying to, you know, get that the best
out of that group. And I think he's gonna have
a really good group to work.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
With in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh, no doubt that receiving that's the receiving room is
stacked with talent. You got a veteran in Keenan Allen,
you got DJ Moore, you know Roma Dunze who.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They just drafted this past year coming in there.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So, I mean that's a good start to figure out
what can we do to kind of break this, break
this code and unlock the best potential out of everybody,
Caleb included. And I think he's gonna he's gonna be
a major factor of that success.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, do you believe what goes around comes around? Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Car Yes, Okay, so so and carousels and carousels. Right,
So who's who who had the worst drop experience? Was
it Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid. Oh, but I gotta
go with Mark because Mark had multiple well he did
have the fumble, right yeah. And then with I go
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with Mark because of the fact that he could have
tied the game. It was right there, Yes, Dalton Kincaid
would have extended, yeah, and it was right there. It
was pretty much pitch and catch, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It very easily? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, he was alone on the goal line, hit him
on the chest, bounced off his chest, threw his hands incomplete.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I wonder how their off seasons are going to go.
I mean again, the worst thing you can do is
have a really bad game in the last game of
the year that that means something, you know, you just
you go in that offseason. All you can do is
see darkness, you know, because you mark Andrews, you fumbled
for the first time since twenty nineteen. You mark Andrews,
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you had the two point conversion that would have tied
the game. You know, in the playoffs there it's a terrible,
terrible burden to carry, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Again.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I remember Touch having the game against the La Raiders.
It was eighty three, I think it was, and anyhow,
he gave up three sacks to Lyle Alzada, which I
was watching some of the tape the other day and
I'm looking at Benny Cunningham, like Benny was six y
five two ninety I mean, that's a big tight end
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back in the day, all right that it's still a
big tight end nowadays. But he was way ahead of
his time. God bless Benn. He was a great guy.
But he like, you know, on like a wall left
or a Liz he would he would like he's like
getting in front of Alzato, only he's shielding tounch and
and banging Touch. I mean, it was it was terrible.
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It was like he picked him three times.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I remember, Touch was screaming at Betty, just go out,
don't touch him, don't do anything, just leave you know, Oh, it's.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Release it to the route stopping acts protecting. Yes, I
know what the quarterback said, but I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You, yeah, get away from me. I remember.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
It was just you know, it's just a terrible moment.
And listen, as a tackle, we all have been there.
I mean, I'll never forget in Baltimore. You know, we're
we're on a sixties protection, which is a five man
pro with the with the running back scan right, so
it ends up being six man pro. And I just remember,
you know, this was in the height of the school
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yard defense, the walk around defense that Baltimore used to
do where nobody would line up at a set position
at three point. Everybody was in two point and just
walking around back and forth, so you could never get
a beat on what gap they were responsible for. So
we were always tall, Hey, get off the ball two
sets and let let it play itself out because they
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have to declare.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But by then, so.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I just remember setting back, and you know, and Suggs
was kind of he was in it like the mic
backer position, like walking up between the A and the
B gap. Uh, taunting and now I get hiccups, So
this is gonna be fun. Uh, and and just trying
to trying to go to us off side, trying to
(22:31):
get us to make to change our call. But you know,
we do in our head this is what they do, right,
So we're all going to set off the.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Ball and wait for it to clear up.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then you know, Willie Parker at the time, will
Willy just takes whoever else is. You know, I prefer
to leave him the in man on the line of
scrimmage because the furthest distance of the quarterback. Right with
all this muddling going on, but I also knew there
was a chance that you know, I would be head
up over like Suggs would be head up over me
by the time it came rush time. So I set
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off the ball twice, waiting for it to clear up.
But sure enough Suggs could wrapping around from the A
gap to come outside and run and run rush contained
And as I'm going to set on him, Willy you know,
stops crouched.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now, fired off and hit the back of my knee.
Friendly fire.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Friendly fire, because he was going for the cut block,
ends up taking me out. I tore my moniscus in
my right knee, and I was just like, oh my god,
Ben Ben got sacked because both then guys.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
To blind him.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You guys were in Baltimore one time, and he had
like twelve sacks. It was like unbelievable. No, I wasn't there.
That was actually funny because that was early in the season.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And I want to say, Willy got injured in that game,
and I wasn't signed.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
With the team, okay at that time. All right, so
this I watching this, No, No, this is after me. Okay, yeah,
but I mean this is when you weren't there. Yeah,
when I wasn't there. So I wasn't there during.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The eleven season at the beginning. Okay, so I'd missed
the first.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Four games in that season.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
This was like week one, week two, So I missed
week weeks one through four, and then they brought me
in for Week five against Jacksonville that same season, so
I'd watched that game and Ben was getting killed. I
watched that Seattle game where you know, you know, Mike
Adams was setting on the edge and went to toss
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the guy wide, but he ended up like slingshotting him
and Ben got hit and we thought Ben was injured.
That was the next and then finally they called me like, hey,
now now you gotta come back in. And at this point,
because this is after I had hurt my neck, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So so they were like, ah, we're gonna we're gonna
hold off.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Year, and you know, I ended up getting released that
year right before training camp. That was the lockout season
as well, so it was like a lot of stuff
going on, and they bring him back week five against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But I remember what I was like.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I was like, man, I was like, they just pretty
much bought half the fuel for his ticket to Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah. After that game was.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
H Yeah, So I was like I was like I
was kidded about that, and then when we played on
the second time, shut him out, shut him out.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He had here.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I just don't want to say it loud loud, but
you know BA should have been here, right.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, exactly, Like, Hey, hey, I'm just saying I know,
I know, I know sometimes you think the grass is greener,
but sometimes it's just spray paint and so you know,
But I mean, but you know, it is what it
is is nature of this business, right, I mean, you
know you're you're gonna have to sometimes you have to
find out the hard way. But I just I think
about that, I think about you know, just kind of
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what that what that challenge is.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I hate when guys, you know, when you have to
figure it out and like you know, guys get miscommunicated.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, no doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I mean, a multi sack game for an opposition team
just decimates an offensive line, you know, I mean, you get,
you get. I remember when we went up to Denver
one time and we had Carl Mecklenberg. We had all
these Mecklenburg rules which broke the basic rules, foundational principles
of our past protection. But they were like Jordan rules,
(26:30):
they were Mecklenbig Mecklenburg rules, and we just I think
he had four sacks and we gave up bottle of
a bunch of sacks. I don't even know how many
it was, but it was just because it violated all
the rules of communication at the last instant in a
loud outdoor venue such as Miles High was at that time,
created huge problems and we simply were It was just
(26:53):
so stupid. It was, you know, guys, we got two
or three guys on one guy and he got two
guys running free. You know, I mean, it was just crazy.
So the next time we played Denver, which was I
think in that same year, but late in the year,
we simply went with, okay, just go with the normal rules.
You know, there's nothing special about this guy. Just forget it,
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because he had been on a sack there doing well
and everything early on, and that's why they change the rules.
But then the second time around.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Just do it. We shut them out.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It was just like, duh, we should just stuck with
that the first time, because at least if everybody is
on there, you know p's and q's, if everybody knows
what's going on, at least you got a better chance
than having you know, the foundational rules uniformly pulled, and
then you're just looking for this one guy. You know,
it just created a fiasco that was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah no, And it's tough because you know, you want
to communicate, you want to be clean, you want to
have everything pretty in your mind, right, because you practiced
all week a certain way. Yeah, right, and then when
you get to the game and it's like it's nothing
like you anticipated, and you're trying to you know, it's
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essentially like trying to douse the fires.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's like I brought one bucket because I thought there
was only one flame, right, and then you get there
there's like seven different locations with one flame, and you're
just like, oh god, okay, what's the priority. Okay, get
the first thing first out of the way. Okay, now
get to say, ah, man, a ball snapped.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Just like it's such a frenzy of communication. I mean,
and you know, the good teams, you know, you can
figure it out. And that's why we're offensive lines, especially Wolf.
I think this is a great point to bring up.
This is why time and experience together really matters. Oh yeah,
because you've got to be able to think how the
other guy thinks, because then you're more efficient. If he
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sees how I see it, I don't have to tell
him right because he knows. He knows what I know,
so he's going to make the appropriate adjustments. And when
you see younger or newer offensive lines together or guys inserted,
you know, you know that don't really catch what's going
on or can match the intensity of the moment. That's
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when guys have shorter careers. That's when guys get injured,
That's when guys have problems. But an offensive line, you
can't fast track that. Sometimes you have to go through
those growing pains. You have to go through those ugly moments.
And that's why I feel encouraged at about our current
youthful line. They got a lot of meaningful reps except
for Troy Faltano, but Mason McCormick, Zach Fraser got meaningful
reps that are going to propel them hopefully for the
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next season.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Absolutely, you know again in telling people about the how
a line comes together, then grows and manifests itself and play.
Right now, as we're watching the Philly Eagles, along with
Saquon Barkley. Look, it's I know, it's it's hard to distinguish.
You got a great running back and a great offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Is that the line? You know, it's a chicken or egg.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You know it's both because you can't take one from
the other. The two of them together are just a
potent formula for just putting the run game back in
the in the prime spotlight, you know. I mean just
watching him just undo, uh, you know the team, it
was just unbelievable. I mean the way they just pounded away.
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I look at that, and I think that's a fun
line to play in. That's the joy of physical, physical
type football. When you can pound away like that and
you got your your running back going sixty yards in
the very first play of the game. What a better
way to punch your opponent right in the mouth than
right away?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, Well, here's the thing. Well, and you can test
this offensive line. What's our favorite direction?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Forward?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, we don't like backwards. We'll take we'll take some sideways,
but we want to go vertical. We don't want to
go horizontal, and we darn sure don't want to go backwards.
We want to go forward. At least to it and
almost to like a you know, a little forty five
degree angle forward. We want that range because that when
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you get to be the aggressor and not the reactor, yep, right,
you get to go be proactive in this offense and
you get to and you get to go impose your
will upon an opponent. When you go into pass pro
you know, all day you're you're just you're just you're
just there so you don't get get in trouble.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
True word. All right, that's a wrap here on this segment.
We got the possession Arroll turn into Max as we
go into the Bell Lap Writer in the locker.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Room and you're listening to the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
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Craig Wolfley and Max Stark's.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
All right, here we go. We've got the Bell Lap.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's right, your Monday Monday late morning edition, you know,
but of course early lunch Warning system out there for
all Steelers Nation to go, get out, go for it,
enjoy your favorite meal. It's a Monday. It's not a
victory donut Monday, but it's a Monday nonetheless, right, so
you're gonna feel yourself off right and get yourself going
(32:40):
for the week. I want to make sure we give
a huge thank you to Rob King once again for
coming into the locker room sitting on.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
The castle ship thrown aka chair.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, you might want to delineate exactly what wow, yeah, wowow.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is. Uh, you know, it's always awesome to have
him in there. And like I said, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
He's he's he's Uh, we're we're a trio, right, that
trio during that segment.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We know we're we're still a quad quad plus more.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know, come game day, whole production family shout out
dan Quinlan of course, and of course Wesley does this
same exact job, except for way more buttons to push
and way more stress level on game day as our
engineer as well, you know. And then of course we've
got the spot and crew Dinny and company also, you know,
roaming in the background making sure everybody knows who everybody
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is down the field because they look like ants from
the booth, but you know, great day to day talking
and sharing. Of course, we had the NFC and AFC
championship games just yesterday, and of course we saw it'll
be a super Bowl repeat.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
What do you think about this? How about this? Kenny
Pickett's going on to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Technically there has to be somebody.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Wait, Trubiskys was with Buffalo, right Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Bo I find it's a little ironic, but I mean,
good for Kenny. Hey, look, you know it didn't work
out here. He asked to be traded, all right, so
he got traded. Good for him that he's got an
opportunity to experience the Super Bowl as a player and all.
It's still to me, it doesn't add up. I don't
know about you. I would rather be a day in,
(34:31):
day out starter in the NFL, experience all that startered
him and all that sort of stuff, than be a
guy that's a backup that goes to the super Bowl.
I know the super Bowl is magnificent, but I love
to play the game and I always wanted to be
a player, you know, and Kenny. I think Kenny will
someday be that guy. But you know, the fact of
the matter is this is this isn't like he's the
(34:54):
starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
But again, I don't wish anything bad for Kenny at all.
I like the kid, you know, I just just think
he made a really poor choice in maybe not thinking
things through, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, about thinking about a clear path to where he
could play sooner participate in lead and you know, I
mean because that's that's a part of the quarterback DNA, right,
you know, I want to play. I mean, just like
every other position wants to, but quarterback especially and when
you kind of go behind another younger guy unless injury,
(35:30):
which is what got Kenny out there. Actually it gets
the Commanders in the regular season. Then he got injured,
you know, that got him out there. Now here's the
thing I will say, Kenny has not done anything to
prove that his health is any better because he's still
getting injured and still missing time even even as a backup.
(35:51):
So you know, there's there is that thing. So I
you know, will there even be an opportunity for him
to do that later down the line with his given
his history, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
There's truth in that, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, I think he just jumped at you know, pulling
the trigger on a trade asking for a trade because
he felt gob smacked over you know, Russ being brought
in when in fact that could have.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Been the greatest learning experience of his life. You know.
But again that's just now, that's past history either.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yeah, neither here nor there. Yeah right, but he yeah,
he's going to Super Bowl. He has a chance at
a ring, you know, with his new team. But you know,
good luck to him and god speed to you know,
to him and all the other guys in the Eastern
PA when they make it down there too, you know,
to New Orleans to get ready and prep and of course.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'll be I'll be roaming. I'll be roaming.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The uh the field Monday night, so you know, I
know I can't. I'm not going to promote another station
on here, but I do work elsewhere. If you if
you check my social media.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay, and uh, I will be doing I will.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Be conducting player interviews, uh that night, that Super Bowl
Monday night, which is like their their media.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Day that used to happen on Tuesdays. Okay, remember super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It now becomes a Monday night type of event in
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They bring each team in individually.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Allow for all of us pool reporters to kind of
go in there and interview them and and you know,
cut cutting slice interviews, so we can have to play
throughout the week.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So it's a it's a fun time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
It's crazy, you know when you think about, like, you know,
the jobs that I get to.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Do, it's a cool one because I mean our job
is an interview jobs.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yes, like Pro Bowl games, Max has NFL jobs.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Jobs.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, oh you lazy bum I got I got Turty
five job. But yeah, no, it's it's uh, it's gonna
be fun. And all that kicks off next Monday, so
a week from today, I'll be down there, and of
course I'll be coming to you live in the locker
room from New Orleans all next week and of course
(38:03):
sharing my thoughts and interact.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Great, we're gonna have like live right from the Yeah,
I ma actually gotta get some guests down there.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I know Tom Cruise for the show. Yeah, exactly, exactly,
Hey Tom, how is it?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
How how did you have a promannings when you're here
filming Jack Reacher.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
No, what I wanted to know was how long did
it take to actually get the gumption to drive that
motorcycle off the mountain and then paraglide down that. I'm
sorry that end up story there. I would have died
out of paralysis by analysis going down the grounds rushing
at me and I can't think what a.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Pull it's like as he said something about rip it,
and I'm not sure if he meant like rip it
you know that way, or rip it the other way.
You know, there's a lot of a lot of things,
and this wind is getting in my face.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's making it tough for me to breathe, and I
can't even Okay, there we go and then things end
real quick. They they had real quick. I mean definitely,
Oh I see hart.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Stop these people that that do that, that jumping off
you know, the bridge jumping or whatever they call it, you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Know, I mean that's just crazy, just crazy man.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, well, remember when you remember when bungee courting was
like a fad that everybody wanted to I'm like, I
don't understand how you could tie a rubber band to
your legs and willingly jump off of you know, a
ridiculous height. And how do you know that they know
the right length of this bungee, you know, and the
weight capacity of it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, two things you and I are heavily concerned with.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, exactly because physics, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
No, there is physics.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
But it's like, yeah, your weight, you know, calculating acceleration distinction.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Hold this, and I've seen Bungie still snap. You guys
a lot lighter than me, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
You know, it's fair parachute supposed to work, right, but
it's not guaranteed, well.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Not guarantee need to open when you pull the cord.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
How many times have you gone to the fair, to
the carnival or something like that and you see somebody like, uh,
you know, securing the ride and it doesn't look like
they're making a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
In the rides, and figure, well, I would say that, yeah,
that's going every state fair. Yeah, that's every state fair.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Across the base, the base legs are all rusty and
like have been holding out since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Right right, You see that, You see the duct tape
marks where they try they used to duct tape it,
but accordingly they might have found this new magical latch.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And I'm like, give me the duct tape as well.
Duct tape's still sticky.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Go to county fairs. All right, head for the corn dogs.
Stay away from the carnival rides.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yes, exactly, stay away from gravitron. Listen that I don't
trust the gravitron. I'm like, because you spending a high
thing and I just feel like it ends up being
like a blender without the lid on it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I'm that's I saw.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Always been my fear, you know, when you spin around
in a circle long enough? Uh so, oh god, but
any who, we will digress. That was that was that
was that was the mind of the locker room. Brought
to you by you know, pre dementia anyways.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
No, just joking.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Uh but no, we'll yeah, don't count it out just yet.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
This this this episode brought to you by Prevagen.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
No uh no, but but no, we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
We'll be back of course tomorrow, same BAT channel, saying
Bat time here with more inside the locker rooms. We
kind of go around the league and of course, you know,
tell our stories and who knows, you know, we'll have
some more guests throughout the week, uh leading up and
then of course super Bowl week. It will be my
jet task to be a gopher and go get some
interviews as well for us.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You know, who knows, maybe we'll find a former player.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Or two down there roaming around, uh that we could
we can possibly bring on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
But with that we bid you adu.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
He's Craig Wolfully on Max Stark's Western Dealer Ones and twos,
CJ and the sen say. Doing what they do behind
the scenes, we don't ask questions, so therefore we don't
have to know. Plausible deniability works great and we'll be
back with more tomorrow. Thank you for tuning in to
Inside the Locker Room on the Steelers Audio Network. Now
go make it a great day.
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