August 30, 2024 • 6 mins
Canterbury are at the end of their "storm week" as they prepare to play Wellington in Rangiora on Sunday.
Coach Marty Bourke laid down a challenge to those who are saying his team's scrum is no good during his pre-game chat with Lesley Murdoch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So the wash up from the Hawks Bay match, which
Marty Burke is right in the middle of your storm week,
What did you make of it?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It was a good test of word to quality teams
walks By obviously with three runs on the trot physical game.
You know, we're really disappointed by the loss. We thought
we prew to control a few moments in the game
a little bit better. I think we could have got
the result. But really proud of the team and I
think over the last four weeks have had seven guys
(00:29):
make their debut and another three on another four on
the weekend on Wednesday. Sorry, So giving the squad exposure
to high pressure games is hopefully going to help us
as we get into this competition.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I mean, is that what is about for Canterbury this year?
The fact that we are growing new players?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I think they've always been there. I think it's
more around just've been developing for the year through the
through the different systems we have through Ninets program, our
Beast program, in the time they and ordered competitions. But yeah,
Canterbury just at the point of time now where there
are a lot of guys are ready to come through
and get some exposure and like most other teams in
this competition, we do it a few injuries and rather
(01:07):
than push that the guys at the start of the year,
we don't really necessarily to push them to the end.
So I'm generally excited that all these young guys have
earned these strips and definitely deserve to be there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean, it was interesting looking at some of our
groups that people are on and the disappointment around the
Canterbury Scrum in the last couple of matches.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, there's a bit of pressure come on a scrum.
I think people don't know what they don't know. Obviously,
we've lost two tidy Props main tiny Props ones playing
for Salmo and the P and C and the other
one's playing for Fiji, so we're sort of into our
development pool. And yeah, to be honest, it's not it's
not a one person issue. It's a couple of different
(01:48):
things going on in there, but which we are putting
a bit of attention to and it will get there.
Like any sort of growing paint like, it takes time
to develop and get better. With with the couple of injuries,
we've got it coine headed. It's good exposure for these
young guys and it's it's going to benefit them in
the future, I truly believe. But no one likes to
(02:10):
sears come go backwards. But that's just the purist and
the Cantabrian whose supporter who's so passionate about their team.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh absolutely, And that hents my comment earlier about transition
of these players. And the only way you learn what
to do in pressure moments is by doing it, making
mistakes and getting on with it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, I understand. We had some really good conversations yesterday
with some of the younger guys and you can watch
all the games you like on the world or what
did you do you know, through through study and everything,
but they said they never felt anything out there anything
like that. When they're on the field, you know that
the collisions are a little bit harder than they imagined,
the game was a lot faster, but the pressure that
(02:53):
they they felt been a Wednesday night game that they
said it was infectious or was going to sort of.
It was awesome for them. You know, those guys are
on Adrelline and I think it's a it's a privilege
to have that sort of stuff, and it's just how
they can showcase the best of their ability week on
week out.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh absolutely, and that you know, people have to be
patient when you've got new people experiencing all those things
for the first time. I guess the other thing is
that in the last couple of matches, when you look
at the Marco game and the Hawks Bay game, I mean,
we've been bullied a bit, haven't we.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know about bullied. I think we've been taking
the scrum out of it. I think the numbers and
the collusions we definitely dictated most of the collusions of
the game. We won the game line. The Marco game
was a different game. I just think we just went
ourselves in that game. We take the scrums and having
to defend alls and all that stuff out of it
would be maybe a different story. But now I don't
(03:50):
think we've got bullied. I just think in times are inaccurate.
We've got to be better in some of those areas.
That's all.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And the big game Father's Day Sunday out Anura, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
How good. We always enjoy going out there, and it's
one of those unique ones where you support us and
your fans are right by the sideline. I think there's
only five or six meters on one side to the
edge of the field and they can see and hear anything.
For those you can every supporters who are kind of
thinking that the boys aren't hitting hard or working hard
enough with by the sort of tasks and to come
(04:20):
along and have a listener. You're definitely hear it in
those collisions that they're not doing to preserve themselves, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So what do you make of your opposition for Sunday?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, a good team. Like we've we talked about storm week,
We've probably got one of the hardest storm weeks and
competition having coming off on Auckland side into Hawk's Bay
and Wellington are all sort of the top tier of
the you know, Hawks Band Wenington be in the top
four of the country, you know, with three wins on
the trot, so it doesn't get any easier for us.
But we openly talk about to be there at the
(04:50):
business tend to be here. You've got to take these
good teams on and then challenge them and showcase what
we can do. Genuine excited about it. You rest of
a couple of guys having a game on Wednesday night
and those all the fizzing to get back and stopped
in injuries and will be We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So just on that, can I ask what is the
status of Johnny McNichol and Joe Moody.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So moodial makers are turned this weekend. You will playing
wrong the orders. He gets superpowers when he plays out there,
I reckons, So he's back. Johnny mcnichol's not far away.
So we're just five or six guys who are sort
of a week or two a week so which has
helped us but also allows us to get a little
bit of time into these younger guys, get them some exposure,
(05:31):
and many guys in our squad who have experienced the
pressure of the NPC and then you know, gets out.
End of the year, we really start knocking down the
pressure that comes with wearing a Cannaby jewsey. And if
you don't get the man right, then he won't be
able to handle the jersey. The pressure and expectation of
one hundred and forty five years of history will blow
them out. I guess when you're when you're a rugby
fan looking from the outside and you see a reading
(05:52):
black jersey out there, whether it's Canterbury or even the Crusaders,
it's been renowned for being successful all the time, but
true says that an MPC now and our plans, you know,
our goal of developed players, you know, next the next
crop of super API players, the next crop of all blacks,
and then they will have to start somewhere and they
have to make mistakes. And MPCs are competition that's imperfect,
(06:13):
and I think that's what makes it so cool is
that it's not super rugby and it's not all blacks
where everything has to be perfect. So that's what I
love about it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So what do you wish for Father's Day, Marty Burke?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I'd love to get a one that would sort
of top off the day. But talking to my kids, spinners,
some time with family and a good can be winner
just make.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
My day fantastic. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
For more from News Talks' b listen live on air
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So the wash up from the Hawks Bay match, which
Marty Burke is right in the middle of your storm week,
What did you make of it?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It was a good test of word to quality teams
walks By obviously with three runs on the trot physical game.
You know, we're really disappointed by the loss. We thought
we prew to control a few moments in the game
a little bit better. I think we could have got
the result. But really proud of the team and I
think over the last four weeks have had seven guys
(00:29):
make their debut and another three on another four on
the weekend on Wednesday. Sorry, So giving the squad exposure
to high pressure games is hopefully going to help us
as we get into this competition.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I mean, is that what is about for Canterbury this year?
The fact that we are growing new players?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I think they've always been there. I think it's
more around just've been developing for the year through the
through the different systems we have through Ninets program, our
Beast program, in the time they and ordered competitions. But yeah,
Canterbury just at the point of time now where there
are a lot of guys are ready to come through
and get some exposure and like most other teams in
this competition, we do it a few injuries and rather
(01:07):
than push that the guys at the start of the year,
we don't really necessarily to push them to the end.
So I'm generally excited that all these young guys have
earned these strips and definitely deserve to be there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean, it was interesting looking at some of our
groups that people are on and the disappointment around the
Canterbury Scrum in the last couple of matches.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, there's a bit of pressure come on a scrum.
I think people don't know what they don't know. Obviously,
we've lost two tidy Props main tiny Props ones playing
for Salmo and the P and C and the other
one's playing for Fiji, so we're sort of into our
development pool. And yeah, to be honest, it's not it's
not a one person issue. It's a couple of different
(01:48):
things going on in there, but which we are putting
a bit of attention to and it will get there.
Like any sort of growing paint like, it takes time
to develop and get better. With with the couple of injuries,
we've got it coine headed. It's good exposure for these
young guys and it's it's going to benefit them in
the future, I truly believe. But no one likes to
(02:10):
sears come go backwards. But that's just the purist and
the Cantabrian whose supporter who's so passionate about their team.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh absolutely, And that hents my comment earlier about transition
of these players. And the only way you learn what
to do in pressure moments is by doing it, making
mistakes and getting on with it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, I understand. We had some really good conversations yesterday
with some of the younger guys and you can watch
all the games you like on the world or what
did you do you know, through through study and everything,
but they said they never felt anything out there anything
like that. When they're on the field, you know that
the collisions are a little bit harder than they imagined,
the game was a lot faster, but the pressure that
(02:53):
they they felt been a Wednesday night game that they
said it was infectious or was going to sort of.
It was awesome for them. You know, those guys are
on Adrelline and I think it's a it's a privilege
to have that sort of stuff, and it's just how
they can showcase the best of their ability week on
week out.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh absolutely, and that you know, people have to be
patient when you've got new people experiencing all those things
for the first time. I guess the other thing is
that in the last couple of matches, when you look
at the Marco game and the Hawks Bay game, I mean,
we've been bullied a bit, haven't we.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know about bullied. I think we've been taking
the scrum out of it. I think the numbers and
the collusions we definitely dictated most of the collusions of
the game. We won the game line. The Marco game
was a different game. I just think we just went
ourselves in that game. We take the scrums and having
to defend alls and all that stuff out of it
would be maybe a different story. But now I don't
(03:50):
think we've got bullied. I just think in times are inaccurate.
We've got to be better in some of those areas.
That's all.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And the big game Father's Day Sunday out Anura, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
How good. We always enjoy going out there, and it's
one of those unique ones where you support us and
your fans are right by the sideline. I think there's
only five or six meters on one side to the
edge of the field and they can see and hear anything.
For those you can every supporters who are kind of
thinking that the boys aren't hitting hard or working hard
enough with by the sort of tasks and to come
(04:20):
along and have a listener. You're definitely hear it in
those collisions that they're not doing to preserve themselves, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So what do you make of your opposition for Sunday?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, a good team. Like we've we talked about storm week,
We've probably got one of the hardest storm weeks and
competition having coming off on Auckland side into Hawk's Bay
and Wellington are all sort of the top tier of
the you know, Hawks Band Wenington be in the top
four of the country, you know, with three wins on
the trot, so it doesn't get any easier for us.
But we openly talk about to be there at the
(04:50):
business tend to be here. You've got to take these
good teams on and then challenge them and showcase what
we can do. Genuine excited about it. You rest of
a couple of guys having a game on Wednesday night
and those all the fizzing to get back and stopped
in injuries and will be We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So just on that, can I ask what is the
status of Johnny McNichol and Joe Moody.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So moodial makers are turned this weekend. You will playing
wrong the orders. He gets superpowers when he plays out there,
I reckons, So he's back. Johnny mcnichol's not far away.
So we're just five or six guys who are sort
of a week or two a week so which has
helped us but also allows us to get a little
bit of time into these younger guys, get them some exposure,
(05:31):
and many guys in our squad who have experienced the
pressure of the NPC and then you know, gets out.
End of the year, we really start knocking down the
pressure that comes with wearing a Cannaby jewsey. And if
you don't get the man right, then he won't be
able to handle the jersey. The pressure and expectation of
one hundred and forty five years of history will blow
them out. I guess when you're when you're a rugby
fan looking from the outside and you see a reading
(05:52):
black jersey out there, whether it's Canterbury or even the Crusaders,
it's been renowned for being successful all the time, but
true says that an MPC now and our plans, you know,
our goal of developed players, you know, next the next
crop of super API players, the next crop of all blacks,
and then they will have to start somewhere and they
have to make mistakes. And MPCs are competition that's imperfect,
(06:13):
and I think that's what makes it so cool is
that it's not super rugby and it's not all blacks
where everything has to be perfect. So that's what I
love about it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So what do you wish for Father's Day, Marty Burke?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I'd love to get a one that would sort
of top off the day. But talking to my kids, spinners,
some time with family and a good can be winner
just make.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
My day fantastic. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
For more from News Talks' b listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on IR Radio
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