November 29, 2024 • 12 mins
Newstalk ZB's Andrew Alderson joins Lesley live in the Christchurch Studio to talk through his coverage of the Black Caps Test against England at the wonderful Hagley Oval in Ōtautahi.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Be just very it bes for you, so listen clause
here am I does in every norm old make me ready.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
News talks, he'd be. It is eleven minutes past eight.
You're on the All Sport Breakfast Leslie Murdot, Connor Kisto
and we are joined in the studio by our very
own cricket passionate fantastic scribe, mister Andrew Ortison. Thanks for
coming back on board.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings Leslie. It's a pleasure to be here. I tell
you what, I love coming here for Test week. It's
so good.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
There's something special, isn't there about Test cricket, especially that
first day, that first hour waiting for the toss. What
is the pitch going to do? So you've seen a
lot of cricket matches. What did you think first of
all of Day one?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, look, it was just I thought that it was
almost total parody between the two and I think for
New Zealand to get to what they ended up with
three forty eight, but it's just there's not much between
those two teams. I feel at times. Fielding, well it
was on day two there is six dropsies. Yeah, but
I thought for starters just wonderful. C K Williamson back
(01:10):
getting to ninety three, but really seeing a tone. Tom
Lathan captaining aside at home officially at least for the
captain there before in Test matches. I thought that forty
seven was played with real positive intent. And you know
later on and even into the second day, Glenn Phillips
with his fifty eight night out. He's just a remarkable cricketer,
Glenn Phillips. And I guess we will allude to that
(01:31):
as well with his catch at Gully yesterday. But gee,
he can really turn his hand and that was some
of the highlights. And I mean England, I mean bush
here bold steadily he was able to snaffle some probably
lucky weeks. Revender giving himself away too cheap. He looks
magnificent getting to thirty four, but yeah, that was just
they probably gave away their wicke. It's a little bit
(01:51):
cheaply in the end, some of those players.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But it was interesting, wasn't it that you get to
three hundred runs. There were wickets down as well on
that first day New Zealand got sent so no one
kind of knew how that pitch would play with a
free strip, right, I thought the England bowling attack was
very measured and they were studious is probably the best
word that I could use. And equally, the New Zealand
batters had to knuckle down because they didn't get many
(02:17):
to head away did.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That great contest. And that's where Williamson in particular comes
into his own because I was just watching some of
his shots and just the way he's able to work
the gap. I thought there was one to cover and
he just had that split second of extra time that
all the greats have where he just was able to
push it to the did this a few times, but
to the right of cover or the left of cover,
(02:40):
just knowing it was going to be out of arms
reach and there was a single through there and was
able to just work the ball and is happy compiling
rather than belting it around the ground and looking for
the big shot. And that's what Test cricket needs at times,
just to be able to get yourself into the game.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And we hadn't had a lot of sun really in
the last week for that outfield be really quick. It
wasn't really quick on Thursday, so you know they had to.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Earn their run threes in there. Yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So coming to the second day and seeing Phillips get
to his fifty and and be not out I mean
responsible batting as well as some glorious shots in there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh yeah, and just he can really he's got those
popeye forearms, hasn't it. He can win when that balls.
It really stays at for Elen Phillips, and that's why
he's in demand as it's a twenty bad in field
around bowl and there around the world. But yeah, that
was that was good to see him get to that
fifty eight. And I think in the in the context
of a Test they could be valuable runs provided in
(03:35):
New Zealand, I've got six overs to get to the
second new ball, provided they can get those arly wickets
today because I've only got Elne five down and just
with the Stokes and Brooke there who have been given
both given chances. Brook in particular, I mean four catching
big series of butter fingers on what eighteen forty one
seventy one hundred and six, it's they can no not
(03:57):
against Harry brought player of that caliber. And they've still
got Gus Atkinson to come, who's got a Test century.
They've got Brydon cass who's got a first class century.
And Chris Woke, so there's still some strength to come
in at that tale good wag if New zeal An
art careful.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean it's really interesting because you know the talk
around where I was sitting. You know a lot of
people don't know these English names. Yes, so thus seeing
them for the first time. We've heard a lot about
Harry Brooks and you know, to see him deliver allbeit
with a bit of luck, but he's still delivered. And
you know, it's fantastic to look at their depth.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, for sure. And I think Brenda McCullum and Ben
Starkes picking a few on spec as we saw with
Jacob Bethel coming at a number three, that's a daunting
prospect if you haven't had a scored a first class century,
but clearly a player of some talent in the white
ball fixtures. So I mean didn't work out for him,
you say, thanks to you know, I thought a really
pretty pretty snappy debut from Nathan Smith Smith with the
(04:48):
ball and could have had more if New Zealander had
held those catches. So you know, two workers in your
first nine legitimate deliveries of your test careers could start
and Joe Root chopping on for a duck is a
prize Scalples.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, fantastic, It is fantastic. And when you look at
the stories of Glenn Phillips and Nathan Smith, we do
not have the depth that England has, We do not
have the money that England has to have those pathways.
Then Phillips got into the Black Caps, had to go
back and reloun the game and come back and we
know what he offers now, I mean he's mercurial, isn't it.
We love what he has. Nathan Smith is what twenty seven? Yeah, six,
(05:23):
twenty six yeah, So it's not like a nineteen year
old debut, is it. So they've had to work the
domestic program works well for us.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm liking what I'm seeing there in that. A few
years ago, I think it was again in the Tide
so not tied that the one run victory, but in
the follow on test at the base and in early
twenty twenty three, every single player in the New Zealand
seam I think was over thirty well in that match.
And so in that time period, so what are we talking.
We aren't talking eighteen months down the track, et cetera.
A little bit more than that now there's those new
(05:51):
players coming through and I think particularly in today, the
onus will go on him to some degree. Will I Rourke.
I love what I've seen with from him coming into
that side, and it just say Ravender as well Nathan
Smith being brought into it. They've had to Gary Stid's
had to do this and to bring some players through
test wise in New Zealand needs that because otherwise you're
going to have a vacuum and a golf between with
(06:13):
the talent leaving. And we've seen that with Trent Bolt,
Neil Wagner and now Tim Saudi on his Villaedictory tour,
that these greats of you know, through this golden ear
I of for New Zealand are going to depart. It's inevitable.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I've always thought that it's our batting that takes
longer to mature at the international scene. And so you
look down at the planket shield to that Auckland match
particularly yes, and so you have Mark Chapman getting a
double ton, You've got Recee Mario getting a consecutive tons
and matches and you think, wow, you know that And
one of the things that I've liked about the Black
caps is that Gary Stead has wrote rewarded people who
(06:48):
have had domestic form.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That's exactly as it should be, I think, otherwise what's
the point of having that. And that's a counterpoint to
England where they have picked a few players just Bolt
is effectively that team and that's that's a certain style
of selection as well. It can work, but you know
that danuve a tory side of things from back in
the day and they can go on to be greats
as well. But I you know, maybe it's the conservative me.
(07:13):
I like to see those players developing at plunket Shield
level in particular. First if you if you have the test.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Game, oh, I mean you want to make sense, Yeah,
and they've got to know how to get a hundred
and domestic critic, to know how to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Learn your game and playing at that next level up
from club or you know, like you know, with those
those elements to the game. So yeah, it's promising at least,
and it's not going to be the golf that perhaps
might have been expected with those their Dad's army that
played in that other game when one of the great
games of all time, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yes, and looking at our bowling attack too, that
you know, you've mentioned names already, but they are creating
opportunities out opportunities and that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh for sure. And it's an interesting this game, and
I wrote about it yesterday actually for The Herald. It's
just that contrast between you've got the experience of Heat
and Sally versus O'Rourke and Smith coming in. So it's
just the old, you know, versus the new and just
working together obviously, but it'd be fascinating to see almost
who comes out on top and that internal battle over
(08:13):
the test. But then you've got to hold your catches,
leslie do you do?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
In the past, it has been one of the strengths
of the New Zealand game. I think it in the
last year or two they slipped a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Maybe should make special mention though just at the flip
side of that, Yes, I mean that Glenn Phillips catch.
I mean here we are talking about the mercurial Glen Phillips.
Is there a better example? Drop one? And then the
next thing he pulls off?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What could be?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I think I travels like reverted to cliche here,
I keep saying almost every year, I think, oh, Phillips,
I think that might be the catch of the summer. Yeah,
and this one surely that's got to be up there,
that one at gully diving to his right one hand
and picks up what was the key wicket at the time.
Oli Pope on seventy seven breaks the one hundred and
fifty one run fifth wicket stand between him and brook
will Bet Stokes comes in later, but it was crucial
(08:58):
at the time and ge he just set the crowd
a light with that. And when you have a full
crowd at a bootique ground in a Test match like that,
it's just a wonderful feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean, I would love to see bio mechanically
if they I mean surely they must be able to
break it down because they've got the vision. You know
how far he stretched himself to yes that he his
elevation off the ground at the same time. I mean,
it is truly athletic.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It is remarkable and it's a little bit like I
remember all those years ago when they I think they
did it with Martin Crow and Brian Lara or here
for it might be not ninety five, someone like that
where they did some testing on reaction times with the bat.
I'd love to see Phillips's reaction time in the field
versus other or even the average cricketer. Just as to
what that's springing in the step, almost like a sprinter
(09:41):
out of the block. How much quicker is he than
someone else? Because he must be. They must have that.
The fast switch muscle is a ballistic ability to just
move in that spirit of the moment and instinct too,
because really you've got so lital time you've got to
throw out a hand at the exact right angle. I'm
throwing wine out in the studio here now, But yeah,
I'm telling you I wouldn't be picking up the catch here,
(10:03):
hitting the rope before I even seen it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's a man in a million, there's no doubt about that.
Just on another note, New Zealand Cricket yesterday revealing that
they are going to pick a first eleven in the
Hall of Fame, the first inductees. Yes, I guess everybody
was then to think, because you'd love something like this,
isn't it trying to think about who do you think?
Who would you put it? Men or woman? Whatever? And
now looking at the socials, it's fascinating to see who
(10:26):
people are picking.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
This is the beauty of a Hall of Fame argument,
isn't it's quite American? Isn't it? In concept? But you
pick a first eleven to start with any ad players
every year and it'll keep that history of New Zealand
cricket alive in the nostalgia is element too. I understand
that it's Scott Winning CEO saying it'll be a seven
four split between men and women for the first inductees,
(10:48):
I think, And it's just brilliant water cooler around the
barbecue on a SAT afternoon chat, isn't it? Who would
you have in your initial first eleven? And I think
there's a prerek was isn't it? You've got to be
retired for five years? So that just helps to narrow
down the debate. Yes, and there's a lot of today
we throw around. But obviously the name Hadley I presumeable
(11:11):
feature at some point and you know Sutcliffe and the
likes so you know read but yeah, the others of
course that will come into the reckoning.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah they will. We wait till next I.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Think, is it fy?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? Yeah, definitely, I would have thought next Thursday. I
think it's revealed, is it?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
We think at the base in yeares. Yeah, so that
we and the crowd will be introduced as well. Be
interesting to see the crowd reaction.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, w engauge. Yeah. Oh well all we can hopeful
now and we're biastacles and we're allowed to be is
that the black Caps can get some quick wickets.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's right. Just before I go to I wanted to
say that it's a magnificent New Zealand cricket introduction. Now
they too called the Fucker pappa Is Series. If even
anyone can check it out online or social media with
it's I had to look at it. I think it's
about fifteen minutes long or something like that, talking about
the relationship with England and the nuturing relationship with New
Zealand over the years. And honestly, for any cricket fan,
historian or people who love the game, it's well worth
(12:04):
the watch. It's well put together and so.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You just need to put that into a Google.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Suit, yeah I presume.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, well thanks for mentioning that. Yeah, it's really
it's it's a terrific initiative.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah yeah, well, thank you very much for getting up early,
coming into the studio. We really appreciate it, and I
know that you will be looking forward very much to
Hegley over this morning.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Absolutely, Liz looking to the farmer's market first preps a
very good go and get a few goodies for the game. Oh,
well done, you've sicked them out to the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Andrew Ortison joining us in the studio, so good. After
the break we will chicken with bread more because he's
just come back into the Crusaders coaching team.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
News talks, he'd be. It is eleven minutes past eight.
You're on the All Sport Breakfast Leslie Murdot, Connor Kisto
and we are joined in the studio by our very
own cricket passionate fantastic scribe, mister Andrew Ortison. Thanks for
coming back on board.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings Leslie. It's a pleasure to be here. I tell
you what, I love coming here for Test week. It's
so good.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
There's something special, isn't there about Test cricket, especially that
first day, that first hour waiting for the toss. What
is the pitch going to do? So you've seen a
lot of cricket matches. What did you think first of
all of Day one?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, look, it was just I thought that it was
almost total parody between the two and I think for
New Zealand to get to what they ended up with
three forty eight, but it's just there's not much between
those two teams. I feel at times. Fielding, well it
was on day two there is six dropsies. Yeah, but
I thought for starters just wonderful. C K Williamson back
(01:10):
getting to ninety three, but really seeing a tone. Tom
Lathan captaining aside at home officially at least for the
captain there before in Test matches. I thought that forty
seven was played with real positive intent. And you know
later on and even into the second day, Glenn Phillips
with his fifty eight night out. He's just a remarkable cricketer,
Glenn Phillips. And I guess we will allude to that
(01:31):
as well with his catch at Gully yesterday. But gee,
he can really turn his hand and that was some
of the highlights. And I mean England, I mean bush
here bold steadily he was able to snaffle some probably
lucky weeks. Revender giving himself away too cheap. He looks
magnificent getting to thirty four, but yeah, that was just
they probably gave away their wicke. It's a little bit
(01:51):
cheaply in the end, some of those players.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But it was interesting, wasn't it that you get to
three hundred runs. There were wickets down as well on
that first day New Zealand got sent so no one
kind of knew how that pitch would play with a
free strip, right, I thought the England bowling attack was
very measured and they were studious is probably the best
word that I could use. And equally, the New Zealand
batters had to knuckle down because they didn't get many
(02:17):
to head away did.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That great contest. And that's where Williamson in particular comes
into his own because I was just watching some of
his shots and just the way he's able to work
the gap. I thought there was one to cover and
he just had that split second of extra time that
all the greats have where he just was able to
push it to the did this a few times, but
to the right of cover or the left of cover,
(02:40):
just knowing it was going to be out of arms
reach and there was a single through there and was
able to just work the ball and is happy compiling
rather than belting it around the ground and looking for
the big shot. And that's what Test cricket needs at times,
just to be able to get yourself into the game.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And we hadn't had a lot of sun really in
the last week for that outfield be really quick. It
wasn't really quick on Thursday, so you know they had to.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Earn their run threes in there. Yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So coming to the second day and seeing Phillips get
to his fifty and and be not out I mean
responsible batting as well as some glorious shots in there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh yeah, and just he can really he's got those
popeye forearms, hasn't it. He can win when that balls.
It really stays at for Elen Phillips, and that's why
he's in demand as it's a twenty bad in field
around bowl and there around the world. But yeah, that
was that was good to see him get to that
fifty eight. And I think in the in the context
of a Test they could be valuable runs provided in
(03:35):
New Zealand, I've got six overs to get to the
second new ball, provided they can get those arly wickets
today because I've only got Elne five down and just
with the Stokes and Brooke there who have been given
both given chances. Brook in particular, I mean four catching
big series of butter fingers on what eighteen forty one
seventy one hundred and six, it's they can no not
(03:57):
against Harry brought player of that caliber. And they've still
got Gus Atkinson to come, who's got a Test century.
They've got Brydon cass who's got a first class century.
And Chris Woke, so there's still some strength to come
in at that tale good wag if New zeal An
art careful.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean it's really interesting because you know the talk
around where I was sitting. You know a lot of
people don't know these English names. Yes, so thus seeing
them for the first time. We've heard a lot about
Harry Brooks and you know, to see him deliver allbeit
with a bit of luck, but he's still delivered. And
you know, it's fantastic to look at their depth.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, for sure. And I think Brenda McCullum and Ben
Starkes picking a few on spec as we saw with
Jacob Bethel coming at a number three, that's a daunting
prospect if you haven't had a scored a first class century,
but clearly a player of some talent in the white
ball fixtures. So I mean didn't work out for him,
you say, thanks to you know, I thought a really
pretty pretty snappy debut from Nathan Smith Smith with the
(04:48):
ball and could have had more if New Zealander had
held those catches. So you know, two workers in your
first nine legitimate deliveries of your test careers could start
and Joe Root chopping on for a duck is a
prize Scalples.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, fantastic, It is fantastic. And when you look at
the stories of Glenn Phillips and Nathan Smith, we do
not have the depth that England has, We do not
have the money that England has to have those pathways.
Then Phillips got into the Black Caps, had to go
back and reloun the game and come back and we
know what he offers now, I mean he's mercurial, isn't it.
We love what he has. Nathan Smith is what twenty seven? Yeah, six,
(05:23):
twenty six yeah, So it's not like a nineteen year
old debut, is it. So they've had to work the
domestic program works well for us.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm liking what I'm seeing there in that. A few
years ago, I think it was again in the Tide
so not tied that the one run victory, but in
the follow on test at the base and in early
twenty twenty three, every single player in the New Zealand
seam I think was over thirty well in that match.
And so in that time period, so what are we talking.
We aren't talking eighteen months down the track, et cetera.
A little bit more than that now there's those new
(05:51):
players coming through and I think particularly in today, the
onus will go on him to some degree. Will I Rourke.
I love what I've seen with from him coming into
that side, and it just say Ravender as well Nathan
Smith being brought into it. They've had to Gary Stid's
had to do this and to bring some players through
test wise in New Zealand needs that because otherwise you're
going to have a vacuum and a golf between with
(06:13):
the talent leaving. And we've seen that with Trent Bolt,
Neil Wagner and now Tim Saudi on his Villaedictory tour,
that these greats of you know, through this golden ear
I of for New Zealand are going to depart. It's inevitable.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I've always thought that it's our batting that takes
longer to mature at the international scene. And so you
look down at the planket shield to that Auckland match
particularly yes, and so you have Mark Chapman getting a
double ton, You've got Recee Mario getting a consecutive tons
and matches and you think, wow, you know that And
one of the things that I've liked about the Black
caps is that Gary Stead has wrote rewarded people who
(06:48):
have had domestic form.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That's exactly as it should be, I think, otherwise what's
the point of having that. And that's a counterpoint to
England where they have picked a few players just Bolt
is effectively that team and that's that's a certain style
of selection as well. It can work, but you know
that danuve a tory side of things from back in
the day and they can go on to be greats
as well. But I you know, maybe it's the conservative me.
(07:13):
I like to see those players developing at plunket Shield
level in particular. First if you if you have the test.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Game, oh, I mean you want to make sense, Yeah,
and they've got to know how to get a hundred
and domestic critic, to know how to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Learn your game and playing at that next level up
from club or you know, like you know, with those
those elements to the game. So yeah, it's promising at least,
and it's not going to be the golf that perhaps
might have been expected with those their Dad's army that
played in that other game when one of the great
games of all time, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yes, and looking at our bowling attack too, that
you know, you've mentioned names already, but they are creating
opportunities out opportunities and that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh for sure. And it's an interesting this game, and
I wrote about it yesterday actually for The Herald. It's
just that contrast between you've got the experience of Heat
and Sally versus O'Rourke and Smith coming in. So it's
just the old, you know, versus the new and just
working together obviously, but it'd be fascinating to see almost
who comes out on top and that internal battle over
(08:13):
the test. But then you've got to hold your catches,
leslie do you do?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
In the past, it has been one of the strengths
of the New Zealand game. I think it in the
last year or two they slipped a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Maybe should make special mention though just at the flip
side of that, Yes, I mean that Glenn Phillips catch.
I mean here we are talking about the mercurial Glen Phillips.
Is there a better example? Drop one? And then the
next thing he pulls off?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What could be?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I think I travels like reverted to cliche here,
I keep saying almost every year, I think, oh, Phillips,
I think that might be the catch of the summer. Yeah,
and this one surely that's got to be up there,
that one at gully diving to his right one hand
and picks up what was the key wicket at the time.
Oli Pope on seventy seven breaks the one hundred and
fifty one run fifth wicket stand between him and brook
will Bet Stokes comes in later, but it was crucial
(08:58):
at the time and ge he just set the crowd
a light with that. And when you have a full
crowd at a bootique ground in a Test match like that,
it's just a wonderful feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean, I would love to see bio mechanically
if they I mean surely they must be able to
break it down because they've got the vision. You know
how far he stretched himself to yes that he his
elevation off the ground at the same time. I mean,
it is truly athletic.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It is remarkable and it's a little bit like I
remember all those years ago when they I think they
did it with Martin Crow and Brian Lara or here
for it might be not ninety five, someone like that
where they did some testing on reaction times with the bat.
I'd love to see Phillips's reaction time in the field
versus other or even the average cricketer. Just as to
what that's springing in the step, almost like a sprinter
(09:41):
out of the block. How much quicker is he than
someone else? Because he must be. They must have that.
The fast switch muscle is a ballistic ability to just
move in that spirit of the moment and instinct too,
because really you've got so lital time you've got to
throw out a hand at the exact right angle. I'm
throwing wine out in the studio here now, But yeah,
I'm telling you I wouldn't be picking up the catch here,
(10:03):
hitting the rope before I even seen it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's a man in a million, there's no doubt about that.
Just on another note, New Zealand Cricket yesterday revealing that
they are going to pick a first eleven in the
Hall of Fame, the first inductees. Yes, I guess everybody
was then to think, because you'd love something like this,
isn't it trying to think about who do you think?
Who would you put it? Men or woman? Whatever? And
now looking at the socials, it's fascinating to see who
(10:26):
people are picking.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
This is the beauty of a Hall of Fame argument,
isn't it's quite American? Isn't it? In concept? But you
pick a first eleven to start with any ad players
every year and it'll keep that history of New Zealand
cricket alive in the nostalgia is element too. I understand
that it's Scott Winning CEO saying it'll be a seven
four split between men and women for the first inductees,
(10:48):
I think, And it's just brilliant water cooler around the
barbecue on a SAT afternoon chat, isn't it? Who would
you have in your initial first eleven? And I think
there's a prerek was isn't it? You've got to be
retired for five years? So that just helps to narrow
down the debate. Yes, and there's a lot of today
we throw around. But obviously the name Hadley I presumeable
(11:11):
feature at some point and you know Sutcliffe and the
likes so you know read but yeah, the others of
course that will come into the reckoning.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah they will. We wait till next I.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Think, is it fy?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? Yeah, definitely, I would have thought next Thursday. I
think it's revealed, is it?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
We think at the base in yeares. Yeah, so that
we and the crowd will be introduced as well. Be
interesting to see the crowd reaction.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, w engauge. Yeah. Oh well all we can hopeful
now and we're biastacles and we're allowed to be is
that the black Caps can get some quick wickets.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's right. Just before I go to I wanted to
say that it's a magnificent New Zealand cricket introduction. Now
they too called the Fucker pappa Is Series. If even
anyone can check it out online or social media with
it's I had to look at it. I think it's
about fifteen minutes long or something like that, talking about
the relationship with England and the nuturing relationship with New
Zealand over the years. And honestly, for any cricket fan,
historian or people who love the game, it's well worth
(12:04):
the watch. It's well put together and so.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You just need to put that into a Google.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Suit, yeah I presume.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, well thanks for mentioning that. Yeah, it's really
it's it's a terrific initiative.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah yeah, well, thank you very much for getting up early,
coming into the studio. We really appreciate it, and I
know that you will be looking forward very much to
Hegley over this morning.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Absolutely, Liz looking to the farmer's market first preps a
very good go and get a few goodies for the game. Oh,
well done, you've sicked them out to the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Andrew Ortison joining us in the studio, so good. After
the break we will chicken with bread more because he's
just come back into the Crusaders coaching team.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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