11-13-25 YMS HR1 Government shutdown over, let the debt crisis resume and Supermodel Carol Alt on a new documentary.

Government shutdown over, let the debt crisis resume and Supermodel Carol Alt on a new documentary.

The supermodel known simply as “The Face”, Carol Alt, joins us to talk about the new Sports Illustrated documentary “Beyond the Gaze.”  A look at how the swimsuit issues advanced sales, and women! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, it's me Michael. Your morning show can be heard
on great stations across the country like Talk Radio eleven
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and Phoenix, Arizona. We'd love to be a part of
your morning routine or take us along on the drive
to work, But as we always say, better late than
never enjoy the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I think he has a better gut feeling than you.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Two three, starting your morning off right, a new way
of talk, a new way of understanding because we're in
this toge. This is your morning show with Michael gil Charm.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's starting my morning off right. A big John all right,
You can't get me in a bad mood.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Supermodel simply known as the Face two covers of sports Illustrated.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Carol All's on the show next half hour. You can't
get me in a bad mood.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
The longest government shutdown in history is over pasted it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Presidents signed it.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Our long nightmare is you can't put me in a
bad mood.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
You give me three hours and I'll find a way.
Give me three hours. I'll give you the earth Speaker
Mike Johnson says the bill compelling the DOJ to release
all of its Jeffrey Epstein case files will receive a
vote in the House next week. Authorities are identifying the
fourteen victims of last week's ups plane crash in Louisville
the US men no longer. I guess it's a nickel

(01:29):
for your thoughts. Now, think about it. Our grandchildren won't
know what a penny is. Somebody right now is like
twelve years old, and they're gonna feel old in a
few years.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
When they explained, well.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
We used to have a penny, Yeah, well he's gone.
I've got a whole sucket full of them at home.
Production ceased yesterday. Reason well, four cents to make. And
what does a penny buy you anymore? Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
What will they be worth though, if you hold on
to them, I mean will they will they get?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
They getting collectors? You out of this stuff? I don't know.
There are so many out there.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I've collected thousands serious in one of those little water
jugs five gallon water drugs. Do you know what I
found fascinating? Back in seventeen ninety three when they first
minted the penny. The penny would buy you a biscuit,
it would buy you a candle. By the way, I'll
remind you in seventeen ninety three a candle was handy. Well, yeah,
I had no electricity. It would buy you light, it

(02:27):
would buy you a piece of candy. Wow, seriously, there's
nothing one sent.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Anymore, right.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Nope, Well, Michael, when I was a kid, we had
penny candy. I was never a candy person, So I
don't remember what I remember. I think I remember like
the little things a gum that were a penny, but
I don't the.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Little machines at the dollar store.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, I actually had a general store that had penny candy.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
By the way, speaking of Red in that voice, which
we think sounds awfully eerily familiar to Woody in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, Now, when you.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Said yesterday, because I said Big John would call in
and I and I had this picture of Big John
in my head. Isn't this funny? We do the opposite
of what radio used to do. Used to be, the
listeners wondered what the radio people looked like. Now we
wonder what our listeners look like. This really is your
morning show, isn't it. It's not really about the listeners. So,

(03:23):
but anyway, I was picturing Big John and then I
don't know how we finally saw a picture of Big
John and he was exactly as I pictured. Well, we
read and I went to lunch with him, and you
stiffed him. I didn't stiff him at a previous engagement.
You know what, I feel like he's been bitter towards
me ever since then. I did not high Head's good.
You know I have a humble pert. Plus, you didn't
treat well.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
We couldn't.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
You're definitely not Italian, and you worked that out before
you ever sit down.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was though he was Italian. That's right Italian. Let
me tell you, you could make.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
A spy movie about how we finagled to treat And
you know he'll beat when we race to places and
he beats me. There, I pulled the waiter aside as
I'm walking in this check goes to me. I'm sorry, sir,
I already have his card, you know, see it's a
mad Yet you can't do that. That should have been
taken care of before he ever arrived. I mean, if

(04:21):
you were Italian, you would never let a man from
from from New York visit your city and pay it's
just done an hour defense, I said, Red, jump on
his back and get his money, and Red sit, I'm
not jumping on his jump on his back. I am
surprised you didn't mug him. All right, So but we
pictured Big John and he looked just like we pictured.
So then Woody in Arizona calls up and he sounds

(04:43):
just like Red. Red's kind of got that computer.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I had.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I had black hair, very very nicely combed and groomed.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, how about you describe the way Red looks.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Red looks like he could make wine or something.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, he looks like the guy in office space that
wants is stapler, well a little bit. But because he
sounds so much like Redd, I thought he'd looked like Red.
And then you said you can't ask him to send
you his picture. That's creepy, which at the time I
didn't think was creepy at all. Now that he sent
me his picture, it feels creepy. We need a picture

(05:19):
board on our on our website so we can people
can post pictures to the and upload, you know, like
they do the weather pictures at all the TV stations.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Can I read his email like like his voice.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Sure, Michael, as requested, here's the photo of myself, Woody.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm the one on the lap. That's my older brother
on the right. Yeah, that's Woody.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Do you have an old Woody we can play so
people know that I'm doing a decent impersonation here. I
missed the America I grew up in. Wish the same
opportunities I had for my children and grandchildren, but I
fear America slipping away. Your morning show always reminds me
to keep a positive attitude when I start to get
negative about the state of the future of the country,

(06:02):
and I'm thankful for that. I'm just a simple American
who's trying to find my way at this new stage
of life.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Boy, isn't that the truth?

Speaker 6 (06:14):
You know?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
On the on the being positive, By the time you
find wood you'd be You're playing a little bit of
what I can make my profound points Woody and Arison. Okay, so,
but but you know when he talks about being positive,
listen and then he brings up at the end of
his email. It's funny, you know. It used to be

(06:37):
when I would bump into people, they would they would
always bring up a story I told or they'd bring
up a character I did, or a voice that kind
of a thing, and or or tell me you know,
I appreciate your faith and when you share it at
the boldness and stuff like that. Now with this show,
it's different. People say things like wood he said, your

(07:00):
daily reminder. See it's not the same when I do
it my voice, You're a daily reminder. Only one chance
to live This day is spot on. Life goes by
in a blank. It's easy to long for the past
or fred about tomorrow that may not come. But one
has to remember that in the future. When you talk
about the good old days, it's now today that you're

(07:22):
talking about, which is a very positive thought. By the way, Woodie,
I'm not making fun of you. I'm just impersonating you.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I love you.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
And I could go to the Old Testament Ecclesiastes, I
could go to Paul and Philippians, Thessalonians. There are constant scriptures,
one of which from Paul and Philippians that you sing
rejoice in lo Lord always and again. I say rejoice,
because listen, when you become a believer, there is no

(07:53):
promise that you get on the high deck of the
boat and live the life of the elite at all.
In fact, everything is just the opposite. You want to
be first, be last. You want to be rich, be poor,
you want to live die, And every one of us
would admit it was the tough times that we felt

(08:13):
God's presence the most. I would choose a tough time
to be in his presence. That's the lesson of life
that when my life's out of control is when I
feel Him in the most control. You want to know
God and the power of his resurrection, then you've got
a fellowship and his suffering. Life is about good and bad.

(08:36):
And it's the same God in the boat with you
on a clear day and smooth sailing, and when the
storm is raging. I love watching him the most. When
storms are raging. I had a storm two years ago.
You wouldn't believe how this God got up and calmed
the storm. But there's no promise that everything that's circumstances happiness,

(09:00):
for example, happiness is the word Happenstance comes, goes, but
joy is eternal.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It is easy. I'm getting to the point.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I promise it is easy at this time to look
at America and be very, very concerned. Now, what are
you going to do with that concern. That's why I
end the show with that, because most of the things
that we talk about we don't have in and of
ourselves the ability to fix. If it was in our house,
it'd be fixed today and it's gone. But we live

(09:38):
collectively now that can wear on you. Look a guy
mows a lawn. He gets there, it looks like crap.
He leaves and it's all manicured. That's a great feeling.
We do our show every day and virtually everything we
talk about is not going to change. Well, that's no
way to live. But in the the midst of that,

(10:00):
how do you plan to live? And that's where we
get back to us and what we can do. You
can smile at someone today in the grocery store. You
can see somebody looks upset and walk up and see
are you okay? Every day we interact with created in
God's image, sacred, eternal human beings. One way or another,

(10:25):
they're going to be eternal. That's an amazing opportunity. I
love my pharmacist and she's just the greatest, and so
for I don't know a decade, we've been laughing, talking,
knowing each other, sticking flu shots, in my arm, me
walking up with my wife saying she has a postule

(10:48):
I do not, and everybody laugh.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I finally met her husband yesterday.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
He's an occupational therapist working with my mother in law
at the nursing home.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I want to lunch.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
What I wonder What a great experience to meet somebody,
an eternal being and make a new friend. That's why
we always say, make a difference in someone's life today,
cherish your own. It will be gone and never lived again.
What a beautiful blank slate we have every day. Now.

(11:17):
I know what it's like to go through rough times
if you're going through one, but they will end, and
your God is bigger or he's not God. These little
simple things we do, well, it's real positive thing. No,
it's not positive thinking. It's seizing the day. It's living purposeful.
It's making a difference. And if ane of us are

(11:39):
out there making a difference, guess what I'll tell you.
I wasn't going to share this on the air. I
just don't ever do these, but this one blew our
family away. My daughter was treating a patient who was terminal.
He's just getting ready to leave to go home for
the final days of hospice and he happened to see
her name tag.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Are you related to Michael? Yeah, I'm his daughter. Tell
him this dying man wanted him to know before he died,
he made a difference in my life.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
That's that would be I would have to say that
is not only better than a paycheck, that's better than
a zero based balanced budget over a two year legislative
span that would solve the thirty seven trillion dollar debt
building we're building and would cause the shutdown. Those kind

(12:36):
of victories are out there every day for you. That's
why we remind you of those, and we go deeper
into all these issues so you can understand them, so
that you can explain them so you can feel better
about pursuing them or voting for them. But ultimately, out
of all the lines that we say on this morning show,

(12:57):
we're all in this together, and one that matters the most,
it's my northern Lights. Because most of this stuff won't
be solved. Some of this stuff will be solved, it'll come,
it will go just like any happenstance, any circumstance, or
any tribulation. But who will we be together for having
gone through it together? That's the definition of your morning show.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So what do you look? Nothing like?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
We thought you handsome thing? And don't you love all
those people in Arizona who don't have carpet. Everybody's just
living on tile, anything to keep cool, because you're we're
in Arizona. Is he wood he's in He always says it.
Does he say not friendship Arizona? This is Woody somewhere
in Arizona. What does he say? He doesn't say Phoenix.

(13:42):
That's interesting about That's it? I you know, I love
my KFYI audience.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
In the didn't say it, So Marasona again.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Sometimes it just shortens at Arizona. But I noticed, like
when I lived in Tulsa. If I bumped into somebody
in Dallas and say where are you from, I'd say Tulsa.
Wouldn't say Oklahoma because at the time it was ashamed
of Oklahoma. No, I'm ashamed of Tulsa. I would say
I lived in Oklahoma. But you noticed in Arizona very
few people say Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Have you noticed that?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
They'll go friendship, They'll go what's the one girl that
is always in Chandler and Angela and Chandler Angela's and Chandler.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, they don't say Phoenix. They got to give their
specific town.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, I say Nashville, even though I'm more proud of Franklin.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I see.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I say, you say White House and they go, you
live with Trump anyway. Twenty one minutes after the hour, Woodie,
it was good to see your face. I don't think
it was creepy it all. If you're ever in Nashville,
we'll have a sleepover and talk it over.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Trono.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
Hi, Michael, This is Debbie from Phoenix.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
Some of us do say morning raised here.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
I'm not too happy with our local government that hopefully
we're turning more red than blue.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Love your show. We have a neighborhood store.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Then when I moved there in nineteen eighty seven, they
so penny Candy. My kids used to love going down
here give since and they thought they were kings of
the hill. I think this nowadays. They still sell it,
but it's probably two to three cents freeze feece, so
technically it's still penny Candy.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Great to hear from you both.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, I mean maybe we should just make the talkbacks
today our goodbye tribute to the penny any.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
More on that in a moment.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
First things first are long work, loungust in history. Nightmare
is over. The government has reopened.

Speaker 10 (15:27):
President Trump signed the funding measure, which was just passed
by the House Wednesday night. The measure finally made it
out of the Senate on Monday after a handful of
Democrats joined Republicans who passed the spending bill, which extends
funding until January thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'm mark mayview.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
As we say. Yesterday we said goodbye to the tiniest
unit of payment in our country. The US Mint processed
the last.

Speaker 11 (15:52):
Penny, the Treasurer says, Indy. The penny is going to
save the US fifty six million dollars, but at what cost?
We'll lose a for your thoughts. You won't be able
to give your two cents no good luck because you
won't find one on the ground. What will you throw
in a wishing well? And is it the end of
penny loafers? The government is not making more, but you
can still use the ones you have, most likely in

(16:14):
a jar in your kitchen. I'm pre tennis.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I don't care what anybody says. The greatest employee in
all of iHeart is pre Tennis. She's brilliant saying goodbye
to the penny.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
This is Philip on Space Coast in Melbourne, Florida, and
my morning show is your Morning Show with Michael del Giorno.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
He is the one spotsyme ball. Hey, it's Michael.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Your Morning show can be heard live each weekday morning
on great stations like thirteen sixty The Patriot in San Diego,
News Talk one oh six point three and AM eighteen
eighty WM e q oh Claire Wisconsin and one O
four nine The Patriot and Saint Louis, Missouri. Would love
to be a part of your morning routine. But so
glad you're here. Now enjoy the podcast.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know, Bree Tennis brings up a great point. Everybody
puts in their own two cents, but it's only a
penny for your thoughts. Making a penny in there.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Michael, I have a fun fact for you. Take a quarter,
a damn, a nickel and a penny, lam down, all
heads up and notice naking its facing in the opposite
direction of the rest of the president. Why is that fun?

Speaker 12 (17:28):
Back?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Straight out love that. Don't we have the greatest audience ever?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I mean, seriously, I could get lazy and just not
prep I think they would do all the entertainment. Good job, guys.
By the way, Big John, you didn't say anything about Michael.
I love you, I don't hate you. I think he's
got a better gut than you. Thirty six minutes after
the hour, Rise and shine. As we say, the early
bird gets the worm. The sleepy squirrel misses the nut.

(17:55):
I guess in this case that's the Democrat the government.
The shutdown is over the longest in history. President Trump
signed the funding measure that passed by the House yesterday evening,
just as I predicted, late afternoon, early evening, President to
sign immediately. That's exactly how it unfolded. So now we're open.
When do we get back to normal? We'll talk more
about that with David Sonati next week. This time we'll

(18:17):
be visiting with Scott Jennings. I know that will excite you.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You worship at the alter of Scott Jennings, both of you,
No Red does. Scott Jennings will be joining us next week,
and we're thrilled to have Carol Alt with us, the
supermodel simply known as the Face, joining us to talk
about the sports Illustrated new documentary Beyond the Gaze. It's
an amazing look at how the swimsuit issue advance, not

(18:43):
just sales for of all things Sports Illustrated, but advanced
women too. Carol, good morning, Michael.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It is so great to meet you. This is a
fun conversation.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
And looking back, I mean, this was really the golden
era of you supermodels.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I mean, I think everybody was kind of impacted by this.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
And then there's the reason why we don't have I
guess Miss America anymore. Right, that fine line between objectifying
women and elevating and advancing women, and somehow, of all places,
Sports Illustrated, that key unlocked the door, right.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
I believe it did, absolutely. I mean, for all the
girls that worked in Sports Illustrated, we had opportunities handed
to us that otherwise we never would have had. So
I'm not sure what that fine line is and why,
you know, Miss America became objectifying. I didn't really follow that,
but I've followed Sports Illustrated and I can certainly tell

(19:36):
you that every girl who's been on the cover has
been able to go on to other businesses and have
major careers, And it was something really sought after.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
So walking that fine line is all how really the
pictorials are done right and they were never I mean
is it is what it is. The number one selling
Sports Illustrated for how long has always been the swimsuit
Edition Sports. But I think it was the way it
was done too. I mean it was it was done very,

(20:06):
very tasteful, and I think that comes back to Jewel right.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Well, yeah, so you know, beyond the gaze is the
documentary is about how Julie put this whole idea together
and in a time when women really didn't have major opportunities, right.
So the amazing thing was that she was a she
was an artist. So every picture that she took, the

(20:33):
way she crafted the photo, the outline of the photo,
the bathing suits she chose, could be a photo.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
You put on the wall of a museum.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Each piece was a work of art, and that's what
made the difference. It wasn't about It was more about
a girl next door than looking trashy or sexy. And
for us girls there was always another idea behind it.
Like for Kim Alexis, it was all about sports. She

(21:03):
was a swimmer, so for her it was all Her
pictures are running and swimming and doing all kinds of stuff.
For me, I understood the marketing behind it. So I
was trying to help the people sell their landing suits,
you know what I mean. So this was not just
a sexy magazine. This was Girls next Door. But when

(21:27):
you look at the bigger picture, we increased tourism in
the places that we went to shoot. We sold merchandise
a lot of times for women owned businesses. We created
a magazine that to this day is a multi goodation
dollar magazine. And it was all through the eye of Julius.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, all through the eye of Julie.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
But the key to look at is not just the
single magazine sales, but who knows how many subscriptions were
tied to this. I mean even just putting an economic
value for sports sells traded Carol alt Is joining us.
She would go on to be a great author, going
to be a great actress, all from what seemingly are
these opportunities. Let's talk about these shoots, because you got

(22:10):
to I mean, first of all, was anybody you were
nine times featured right in Sports illustrated twice on the cover.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Did anybody top that?

Speaker 12 (22:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (22:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
For sure, I think I think El did. I'm not
sure Paulina did, but I know I know El did
it quite often, and Kathy many many times, Yes, for sure.
And wait, you have you have Cheryl, you had Christy.
I mean there were there were other girls who did
it quite often, for sure.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
And you got to go to Na was very very loyal,
and you got to go to great places, right like
you talked about the economic impact for those areas because
they they took the most beautiful women to the most
beautiful places and did beautiful pictures.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yeah, I mean, how have you beat that?

Speaker 9 (22:53):
So?

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, I went to oh, I went to Kenya, I
went to Aruba, I went to Alaska. I mean, Sports
Illustrated took me to so many different amazing places that
I probably never would have gotten to go to on
any kind of normal catalog shoot or you know, magazine shoot.

(23:15):
So yeah, for me, it was, you know, this kid
from Long Island, the daughter of a fireman, and here
I am in Kenya, you know, in Nairobi and all
over Africa. So it was really quite amazing what they did.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
So the documentary is called Beyond the Gays, and it's
going to look at this this, this time, this marketing effort,
this amazing success story, but it really goes beyond that
and it explores the evolution of feminism, fashion, societal views.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Let me give you a chance to.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Just yes, you know inclusivism too. I mean, Julie really
pushed to have black girls, to have Asian Asian women,
to you know, to have a Spanish Latino. So she
really wanted to include women of all kinds. It was
pretty amazing to have that kind of eye and thought

(24:06):
back in nineteen sixties when this magazine started. I mean,
you have to think about it with nineteen.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Sixties unbelievable Carol Lol. Closing moments.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
So what does what do we learn from this documentary
or ultimately, what do you think the meaning of it is?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Why this is?

Speaker 7 (24:22):
I think the meaning go ahead, I.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Was just gonna say the meaning that we don't want
to miss in this whole story.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
I think the meaning of this is that, you know,
women are very creative, women can be very powerful. We
are driving force and it's taken us a really long
time to get where we are. And when you see
this documentary, you see where Julie came from and where
that magazine is today, and it's quite astounding that someone

(24:50):
you know, of the feminine persuasion was able to do
something so incredibly remarkable. She was just a remarkable woman and.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Under such circle cumstances.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Not just about sports illustrated itself, it's about Julie's story.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, let me let me kind of tell you how
I took it. I saw this video, this video the
other day, of this pastor telling the story of one
of the most influential pieces of people who ever lived
that you'll never know his name. And you see that alone, right,
you're ready to hear that story.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Who is this?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, what it is? It's not the guy that was
doing the tent revival. It was the usher that saw
two teenage boys come up. They couldn't see anywhere to
see to sit, so they started walking away, and this
usher ran after them and said, boys, boys, I'll find
you two seats. And he went and sent him in.
And of course both go on to respond to the
tent revival, give their life to Christ. And one of

(25:41):
them is Billy Graham, who really changed the world. The
usher who went and got Billy Graham the teenager and
found a place for him to sit. And I think
of you know, you bring up feminism, and you know, everybody,
especially in talk radio, everybody's going to pick an immovable
position inside. And you know, but this is a very
influential woman who did something of all places in a

(26:03):
sports magazine and may.

Speaker 12 (26:06):
Have done more dominated exactly, may have done more for
women than anybody whose household names we know and nobody
knows her, and they need to and beyond the gaze'
give them the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
That's kind of how I viewed it.

Speaker 12 (26:19):
I don't know if that's how you teach your daughter
in law, Joe.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, I think her daughter in law, Joe Caim will
really capture the life and the times of when Julie
was doing this. So that's I have to hand it
to the filmmaker too.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So my staff wants.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
My staff wants to ask the one creepy question every
time I look in the mirror, Carol, I hate what
I see now, I will tell you in my Yeah,
in my twenties, I liked what I saw, but not
so much anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
What's it like to be so beautiful? And and how
that beauty?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Because it can just do we see this in the
social dilemma with online it can destroy people. How does
someone so beautiful making a living being beautiful, go beyond
just being beautiful to purpose as you did, and going
on to write books and acting. Because that I would

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think that's tricky, not many doings.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
No, well, I thank you. That's like the nicest compliment
I think I've ever gotten. You know, for me, it
was never about beauty. I was never the most beautiful girl.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I know.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
I was called the face. Everybody goes, oh, you know,
you're being so moody. I'm not being minded. I was
never out there going, oh, I'm so beautiful yourself.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Your nickname is the face, mine's the gut.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Come on.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Well, you know, for me it was it was It
wasn't about that. You know a lot of girls would
show up and their snobby and they're nazzy and they
you know, you don't want to work with people like that.
You want to bring something to the party when you
show up at a job. You know, this was I
was self self deprecating. I mean I would crack jokes,
I would make people feel comfortable, and I think that
really goes a long for women who other people are

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a little nervous around, or you know, look up to.
I think normalizing yourself helps because people realize you're accessible,
you're funny, and that there's something beyond like the games.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
So, you know, we just had Christy Brinkley on I
don't know, it was a couple of months ago. Now
what a what a wonderful person and I mean just
so willing to talk about anything, including Billy and the kids,
and she's just terrific. That era of this was my
one question you, Christy Brinkley. L McPherson. I mean, I
could start the list and then where are you going to?
Where are we at today? Why aren't supermodels household names

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like they used to be.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
I think Instagram has changed a lot the landscape. I
think that they're influencers now that speak to younger kids
and not you know, just pictures in magazines. So I
think that really has changed everything. You don't have to
be five foot eleven, you don't have to be beautiful,
you don't have to be smart, you don't have to

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be anything. You could be anybody on Instagram and just
present to the world an image you want them to
see and that's what people follow.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Well, that's what Beyond the Gaze is all about. Right,
you were all very beautiful people, but like they can
tell from our conversation, there were people with real purpose,
real intelligence behind that. It is an incredible historic marketing
story that continues today. The documentary is called Beyond the
Gaze and from somebody that.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Was on two covers and nine issues. You'll be a
part of it. Where can people see this.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Well, it's going to be in theaters, so keep an
eye out to your local theater.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Beyond the Gaze. Carol All the face, glad you got
to meet the mouth. It was so nice to meet you.
God bless you.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
It was so nice to meet Michael.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know, really, when you stop and think about Kathy Ireland,
Elle McPherson, Christy Brinkley, Sheryl Tigus, Carol All, Paula Paula,
we could go back to Twiggy, you know, I mean
there was supermodels used to be like household names.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
By the way, do you remember the one movie that
is most memorable for me with Carol Olt No in
private parts, Howard Stearn's movie She's the beautiful woman on
the plane with him, Oh no kidding, The one that
she's at the very beginning of the movie and at
the end and she's terrific. She's a wonderful person. Beyond
the gaze. Look for the documentary in theaters soon. All right,

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Speaker 4 (31:44):
A lot of you leaving some great penny for your
thoughts talkbacks. We'll get to those momentarily. First top five
stories of the day. If you're just waking up. The
longest in American history government shutdown is finally over.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Is a no brainer.

Speaker 14 (32:01):
This was an easy extension, but they didn't want to
do it the easy way.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
They had to do it the hardware.

Speaker 14 (32:06):
They looked very bad the Democrats do.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
President Trump signed the legislation in the Oval Office last night,
when he blamed Democrats for the shutdown while he was
surrounded by Republican lawmakers and other GOP officials. Trump said
he hopes voters remember this in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 14 (32:20):
So I just want to tell the American people you
should not forget this when we come up to midterms
and other things. Don't forget what they've done to our country.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Now, if you were really studying this shutdown. You know,
it's all about Obamacare, designed to fail and fail. It
has President Harschwartz for that as well.

Speaker 14 (32:39):
Obamacare was a disaster from day one. It's done nothing
but go up. And if you remember President Barack Ussain
Obama when he came up with this crazy idea, he said,
everything's going to be great. Rates are going to go down,
payments are going to go down. Everything's going to go down.
And what the exact opposite said.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
The people killed in last week's UPS plane crash have
now been released.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Carlos Fernandez fifty two years old, lewisness Led.

Speaker 15 (33:10):
And Jefferson County Coroner Joanne Farmer reading off the names
of all fourteen people killed after the fiery crash of
UPS flight two nine seven six. Only three of those
fourteen were actually on the cargo jet. The victims were
identified using DNA, medical and dental records. They range in
age from three to sixty five.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Each of these victims represents a life full of purpose,
interrupted far too soon.

Speaker 15 (33:35):
Mayor Craig Greenberg says authorities are confident there are no
other victims from the crash. The NTSB is still working
to find the cause. I'm Jack Crumley.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
A new report says the young home buyers crisis is
a real thing in the US.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Real estate broker Peter Zitzev says the vast majority of
young Americans can't buy a home without a lot of help.

Speaker 13 (33:52):
If they're not subsidized by their families or parents and
able to contribute to buying a home, you forget about it.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
According to the National Association of Realtors, the typical age
of first time buyers has climbed to an all time
high of forty. On top of that, a Coldwell Banker
reports is eighty four percent of gen z say they're
putting off major life milestones like getting married and having
children just to be able to afford a home. Skyrocketing
home prices and high mortgage rates are to blame. I'm
Tammy Trihio.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Is the fifty year mortgage. This solution.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Oh, you'll want to be listening in the third hour
when we talked to economist David Bonson and I ask
them if it's a good idea, so you can witness
his head explode.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Life on the Air. Dolly Parton has released a new memoir.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
The seventy nine year old country superstar says. Her new book,
Star of the show My Life on Stage, takes a
look at her seven decade performing career. In a cover
story for People magazine, Pardon said she realized when she
was putting the book together just how much she had
sacrificed in her life. She lost her husband earlier this
year and said never had children, but I'm very thankful

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that I got to see so many of my dreams
come true. She's now gearing up for what's next, including
the Broadway stage production of Dolly, a true original music story.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
with Michael Ndel journo