October 24, 2025 • 38 mins
An amateurish burglary in 1950s London ends in murder. One of the men involved is a 19-year-old named Derek Bentley. Bentley has the understanding of a child - and he wasn't the killer. But the British justice system seems determined to deliver the death penalty. The fate of capital punishment lies in the balance, and so too does the fate of Derek Bentley.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pushkin, Derek Bentley towered over the guards pacing beside him
in the exercise yard of London's Wandsworth Prison. Derek was
broader than his warders too. He was a physically imposing
nineteen year old with the look of a weightlifter or
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a boxer. The prisoner's shock of yellow hair, worn long
and combed back, as was the teen fashion in nineteen
fifty three, danced in the cold winter breeze. Occasionally, smoke
from a cigarette would blow back into Derek's eyes, making
him WinCE. But despite his bulk, a visitor to the jail,
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looking down at the scene and carefully sizing Bentley up,
saw something childlike in the convict.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
In his great prison clause, he looked like a schoolboy
dressed for some classroom charade.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The prison doctors agreed. Since his arrest the previous November,
they had subjected Derek to a battery of tests. The
results revealed a low IQ, a dearth of literacy skills,
and the developmental age god of nineteen but more like
that of a child of eleven or twelve. The prisoner
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was deemed to be, in the parlance of the time,
borderline feeble minded. In truth. There were many things that
Derek Bentley didn't understand, but the most pressing was why
he was in prison awaiting execution. He had broken into
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a warehouse, and during the course of that crime, a
policeman had been shot dead, but Derek hadn't held the gun.
Was already under arrest when the fatal shot rang out.
The murderer, a sixteen year old named Christopher Craig, had
been found guilty of the actual killing, but he wasn't
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going to hang. It all confused Derek Bentley. Why was
he the one to die. Derek's family didn't think he
should hang either. The trial jury had asked for the
death penalty not to be imposed, so there seemed to
be hoped that the authorities would heed this appeal for clemency. Indeed,
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so certain were the Bentless that he'd be freed, they'd
wrapped Christmas presents for Derek, a tie and a box
of chocolates, and placed them under the family tree. You
can open them when you get home, was the implication.
But as December gave way to January and the date
of his execution drew near, the man who held Derrek's
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fate in his hands home Secretary David Maxwell Fife was
in no mood to show leniency. A petition by more
than two hundred members of Parliament, plus protests outside Downing
Street and government offices, and finally, Maxwell Fife's own home
hadn't yet prompted the cabinet minister to change his mind.
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On the evening before his son's scheduled execution, William Bentley
led that noisy rally outside the politician's Smart London apartment.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Bentley is not sleeping tonight, said William of his boy
Anira Shall Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What the newspapers and radio were a buzz with these
last minute moves. Political leaders, among the men who'd held
senior legal positions, beseeched Her Majesty the Queen to intervene
in a case that they said out of accord with
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natural justice. So at one minute to nine on the
morning of January twenty eighth, when a well dressed man
burst into the condemned cell, Derek Bentley assumed that this
was legal counsel bringing word of a reprieve. Derek stood
to receive the good news. The two prison officers who
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were his constant shadow, rose too. Then Derek noticed something
peculiar in the stranger's hands was a loop of yellow leather. Swiftly,
this was passed over Derek's wrists, finding them tightly behind
his back. The man in the suit was no lawyer.
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This was Albert Pierpoint, England's chief hangman. If there was
to be a reprieve, it had better happen soon. I'm
Tim Harford and you're listening to another cautionary tale. Let's
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go back three months to November the two, nineteen fifty two.
It's Sunday evening and darkness has fallen on a cold
and grizzly day. Wiser Britons would seek to be safe
beside a fire on such a night, but that wasn't
the sort of evening Derek Bentley had in mind. Instead,
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he was out with his friend Christopher Craig, a sixteen
year old whom Derek called Kid or Kiddo. By rights,
Derek shouldn't have been hanging around with the younger boy
at his age. He should have been conscripted into the military,
but the authorities took one look at Derek and decided
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he was too mentally substandard to complete compulsory service. Despite
his size, Derek was always thought by his teachers to
be sheeplike and timid. When truancy and petty crime landed
him in reform school, it was noted that his lack
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of intelligence prevents him from joining in many of the
indoor games, and he is by no means a sportsman.
When tested, Derek's low IQ placed him in the bottom
one percent of the population. Today, someone like Derek would
be said to have special needs and would we'd hope
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have those needs met. But the language used to describe
Derek back then was brutal and sympathy for him limited.
One expert pleaded that he be sent as far away
from home as possible to a school for subnormals. Derek,
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who also suffered fits and seizures, fared little better in
the world of work. He took a job moving furniture,
but his back gave out. A career as a garbage
collector was also brief. Within weeks, he was demoted to
sweeping the streets and then fired Altogether mocked, rejected, and belittled,
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The team then retreated to the security of the Bentley
family home. But on this dank November Sunday evening, Derek
ventured away from the warmth of the hearth to catch
a bus that would take him on a terrible misadventure.
His choice of companion was his first mistake of that evening.
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Christopher Craig had ambitions to be a gangster. His older brother, Niven,
had just begun a twelve year prison sentence for a
shocking armed home invasion. Christopher had angrily watched his brother
be convicted and learned a lesson, But it was not
that crime doesn't pay. Instead, he decided that you shouldn't
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ever let yourself be caught.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Still seething with.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Resentment, Christopher hopped onto that southbound bus carrying a forty
five Revolver in his pocket, a relic of World War One.
The pistol's barrel had been shortened to make it easier
to conceal. Its power and accuracy were further reduced because
Christopher had struggled to find the right ammunition. All of
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the cartridges were intended for a smaller gun. Still, the
weight of the firearm in his pocket, no doubt, pleased Christopher,
making him feel like the Hollywood gangster of his phantasies,
and he'd need that swagger the job he had in mind.
The younger boy had dared Derek to join him breaking
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into a local butcher's shop. Derek was already carrying a
small knife, but as their bus chugged towards their target,
Christopher gave his friend a fearsome knuckle duster too.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The robbery was a bust.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Somebody was in the butcher's shop, but Christopher spotted a
new opportunity the nearby warehouse of a candy company. Christopher
scaled its gate, hoping to break in via the roof.
Derek trailed behind. But they've been spotted. Constables from the
nearby police station qui, we had them surrounded. Perhaps more
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athletic than his colleagues, Detective Constable Fred Fairfax was the
first to climb the roof via a drain pipe in
the gloom, He saw the boys scurry into hiding and
called on them to surrender.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If you want us fuck you welcome and get us,
replied Christopher.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Perhaps enraged by such impertinence, the constable rushed the burglars
and grabbed hold of Derek before the youth broke free.
It's here that eyewitness accounts differ. Derek denied shouting anything.
A version of events backed by Christopher, the other policeman
heard nothing or thought the shout came at a slightly
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different moment, but Fairfax was certain as he tussled with
the hulking nineteen year old Derek yelled, let him have it, Chris.
But was Derek simply pleading for his partner in crime
to surrender the pistol he was now brandishing.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let him have it, Chris. Or was Derek.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Channeling his inner James Cagney and growling for his friend
to open fire.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Let him have it, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Christopher's opening shot hit Fairfax, grazing his upper arm. Undaunted,
the officer grabbed Derek again and used the boy as
a shield while he ran for cover. As more officers
closed in, Christopher continued his fusal hard. He also kept
up a barrage of taunts.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Come on, you brave propers.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Think of you what I am Craig, You just give
it my brother twelve years Come on, you proppers, I'm
only sixty. Two of these coppers had made it into
the warehouse and were taking the stairs.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Up to a door leading to the roof.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Police Constable Sydney Miles kicked it open and burst out
into the night. A bullet struck him between the eyes,
killing him instantly. Cautionary tales returns in a moment. There
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was widespread revulsion at the murder of Sydney Miles. This
is not England, said the vicar at Sydney's funeral, the.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
England for which men and women have laid down their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Sydney's coffin was topped by his police helmet and a
wreath from his wife. Officers from across the country were there.
Senior officials too, including the man ultimately responsible for law
and order, the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife. The shooting
on that warehouse roof unnerved the nation, partly because it
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was so unusual the number of times a year guns
were fired in London robberies. You could count them on
the fingers of one hand. And yes, the murder rate
was rising, but from its lowest point for centuries. After
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his initial attempt to flee, Derek Bentley had meekly stood
with the police, seemingly accepting his detention, but Christopher Craig
had continued to exchange shots with armed police until his
supply of ammunition exhausted.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It flung himself from the rooftop.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Though badly injured, he survived the fall, unrepentantly telling the
arresting officer.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I wish I killed a ducking enough.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Given such violence and such brazenness, its little wonder that
some people wanted to see an example made of these
teen criminals. The topic even came up when Sir Charles Hardy,
one of the most famous businessmen of the day, lunched
with a certain Baron Goddard. The uncompromising Goddard, who basked
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in the nickname the Tiger, told his dining companion that
Bentley and Craig had to be found guilty.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Such of you might not seem so remarkable given public anger.
In nineteen fifty two, only Goddard was the Lord Chief
Justice of England, the most senior judge in the land,
and h just appointed himself to oversee the trial. William
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Edgar Reyner Goddard seems to have been a lifelong fan
of the hangman. As a pupil at one of England's
most exclusive private schools, he was said to recite word
for word the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The sentence of the court is that you be taken
from this place to a lawful prison, and thence to
a place of execution.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was said to be Goddard's party piece, preferred to
telling a joke or singing a song, and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That you may be hanged by the neck until you
be dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
As an adult, he remained an enthusiastic supporter of violent punishments,
meeting out whippings and beatings for lesser offenses and hangings
for more serious crimes. However, his elevation to the highest
level of the judiciary came at a time that such
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views were being challenged. Following World War II, an election
swept the anti hanging Labor Party into power, and many
of the new socialist politicians taking their seats in the
House of Commons were young servicemen returning from war, sick
perhaps of violence. These elected politicians voted to end hanging
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only for the unelected lords in the Upper Chamber, where
Baron Goddard sat, to overrule them. This sparked a constitutional crisis.
The lords weren't supposed to defy the Commons, but a
compromise was reached. A special commission would thoroughly review how
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the death penalty was administered.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So thoroughly, in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Fact, that the report would take four whole years to complete,
so hanging was reprieved, much to Goddard's delight. He threatened
to resign as Lord Chief Justice whenever the repeal of
the death penalty looked imminent. But with the political tide
clearly shifting against execution, Goddard thought it was time for
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the justices beneath him to hand down death sentences whenever possible.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I advise all judges to harden their hearts.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The joint trial of Derrek Bentley and Christopher Craig took
place at the Central Criminal Court, London's famous Old Bailey.
The prosecution case against the sixteen year old Christopher was
clear he'd fired the fatal shot. Derek, it was argued,
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was also a murderer because he had known Christopher was armed,
and furthermore, had verbally encouraged him to open fire. Derek
denied knowing anything about the pistol until it was drawn
on Detective Fairfax, but the jury was told this version
of events was almost inconceivable.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I should think you would come to the conclusion that
the first thing almost Craig would tell him if they
were going on a shop breaking expedition, was it's all right?
I got a revolver with me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
This bold statement, not backed up by any evidence, was
made not by the prosecutor, no, but by the judge,
Tiger Goddard. From the outset the seventy five year old
in his red robes and ceremonial Wig seems to have
made good on his pledge that the pair would be
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found guilty at all costs. A judge's role at trial
is complex, but the bedrock of their duty is to
explain to jurors that the onus is on the prosecution
to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. But at Derek
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Bentley's trial, Goddard didn't bother to explain what reasonable doubt meant.
He did mention that it was for the prosecution to
make their case and not for the defendants to prove
their innocence, but he did so in a single sentence,
adding grumply that he considered that such a reminder.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Was hardly necessary.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But don't be fooled into thinking Godard wasn't keen to
address the twelve men in the jury box. He was
with both defendants, denying that Derek had said let him
have it, Chris. The jury only had the slightly confused
testimony of the police witnesses to go on. Instead of
pointing out that police officers don't have some special status
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as accurate and reliable witnesses, Goddard drew a direct link
between the gallantry and resolution of the constables on the
rooftop that night and their evidence to the court.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They were conspicuously brave. Are you going to say they
are conspicuous liars?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's quite something for a judge to tell a jury,
given public outrage about the murder of a police constable.
Goddard's other duty was to tamp down emotions in his
courtroom and encourage the jurors to weigh the facts as
presented and not let any personal prejudices or feelings of
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disgust or anger cloud their decisions. But instead, Goddard indulged
in court room theatrics of the most stunning kind. At
one point, he asked for the weapons found on Derek
Bentley to be passed to him.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Where is that knuckle duster? Have you ever seen a
more horrible sort of weapon? You grasp it here, your
fingers go through. I cannot quite get mine through. And
you've got a dreadful heavy steel bar to strike anybody
with and you can kill a person with this, of course,
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it is a shocking weapon.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Goddard then held aloft small knife taken from Bentley, which
he emotively referred to.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
As a dagger.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
What is he carrying that with him for?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Godard didn't answer his own question, perhaps because one plausible
response is that Derek Bentley had absolutely no plans to
use the weapons. Derek was being tried an accessory in
joint enterprise. It's clear that he was in a joint
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enterprise with his younger friend to rob the warehouse. He
had scaled a gate and climbed atop the roof. Once
discovered by Detective Fairfax. Derek had tried to run away,
arguably in a joint enterprise, to evade arrest, but then
quickly gave up that effort. Was the joint enterprise now
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at an end? Long before the murder of Constable Miles.
Though armed with a knife and knuckle duster, Derek made
no attempt to assault the policeman holding him, and as
Christopher Craig kept up his angry, foul mouth taunting of
the police, Derek stood meekly and quietly, occasionally expressing concern
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for the officer's safety.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You want to look out, you'll blow your heads off.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
When Fairfax left his prisoner's side for a moment, Derek
made no fresh attempt to bolt or rejoin his armed comrade.
If indeed Derek had said let him have it, Chris,
for those words to have earned him a guilty verdict,
it wouldn't have mattered how they sounded to the teen gunman,
nor to the police, only that Derek had intended them
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as an incitement to open fire. But Derek's demeanor during
his detainment was passive and acquiescent. The teen described as
timid and sheep like all his life and with no
history of violence, might easily have meant for Christopher Craig
to surrender his pistol and accept his lawful arrest. It's
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certainly a possibility the jurors should have considered. Just before
the jury retired to consider their verdict, Godard, having praised
the prosecution case Fulseoen, mocked the defendant.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Bentley's defense is I didn't know he had a gun,
and I deny that I said let him have it, Chris.
I never knew he was going to shoot, and I
didn't think he would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The jurymen filed out to begin deliberations, ringing in their
ears an exhortation from the highest judge in the land
that they should use their common sense. They took just
seventy five minutes to find both defendants guilty. Christopher Craig
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wouldn't hang, he was too young, and since there was
a precedent that if a killer didn't hang, an accomplice
wouldn't either, the jury asked that Derek's life be spared too.
Goddard ignored their plea and recited the death penalty memorized
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at school. Derek would hang by the neck until.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
The Lord Chief Justice had told his fellow judges that
it wasn't their job to show pity to the prisoners
in their dock.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
For said Goddard, in other and higher hands, mercy may
be extended.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So the Lord Chief Justice, having passed a death sentence,
sat down to write a letter to a higher hand,
the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife, the only man who
could now save Derek from the hangman's noose. Cautionary tales
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will be back after the break. In the early morning
January Gloom, a crowd stood at the gates of Wandsworth Prison,
wrapped up against the cold, they sang hymns and recited psalms.
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There still seemed hope for Derek Bentley, even inside the
prison where he was making his final macabre preparations and calculations.
Hangman Albert Pierpoint wasn't sure his services would be required.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
After all, the possibility of a last minute reprieve still
hung in the air stronger than I have ever known it.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
At the very heart of government there was, in fact
a mood to show mercy. The most senior officials in
the Home Office advised David Maxwell Fife to intervene to
spare Derek's life, but the Home Secretary was taking his
advice from Barn.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I could find no mitigating circumstances in Bentley's case. I
am convinced that he is a most dangerous criminal.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
In his own verdict on the case, which he called
a very bad murder, Maxwell five said it would be
dangerous to let Derek live, since that might encourage similar
attacks on unarmed police. Given public anxiety about violent crime,
he decreed that Derek must hang at eight point fifty
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nine a m in the condemned cell peer Point was
now standing so close to Derek Bentley that he could
talk to the boy in a whisper.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Just follow me, lad, It's all right, Derek, Just follow me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Peer Point had conducted hundreds of executions and found that
moving quietly and calmly but at speed encouraged compliance from
the condemned. He feared that if Derek resisted, the powerfully
built team could cause havoc. But sheep like to the end,
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Derek meekly followed Pierpoint into the adjoining execution chamber. The
guards didn't even have to guide him. Derek helpfully stood
on chalk marks drawn on the wooden trap door as
Pierpoint gently placed first a white hood and then a
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noose over the boy's head. The executioner stepped over to
a lever that opened the doors. Beneath Derek's feet, an
assistant was tying the boy's legs together. When he was done,
he gave Pierpoint the agreed signal. The crowd booed as
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a prison official came out to post two notices. One
declared that Derek's execution had taken place before witnesses. The
other certified that a surgeon had examined the body and
deemed life to be extinct. The two pieces of paper
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were pinned inside a glazed display case, which someone in
the crowd promptly smashed.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I've murdered an innocent boy.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Cried one protester, as others pelted prison officers and policemen
with coins.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's murder, it's ard up.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He's heard up. So.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Just eighty seven days after the shot that killed police
Constable Miles, Derek Bentley too was dead. The Bentley family,
anything but meek or timid, fought on demanding a posthumous pardon.
When Derek's parents died, his sister Iris devoted herself to
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the cause.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'm not the sort of person who gives in. I'll
never never give up.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
When I die, I want that piece of paper that
pardon put with me in my coffin.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Iris was buried in nineteen ninety eight, but without Derek's pardon.
Beside her cruelly, a ruling by the Court of Appeal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Was not far off.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Few people had previously had the courage to contradict Godard,
even after his death in nineteen seventy one, but the
appeal judge was shocked by his handling of Derrek's case.
He concluded that the Lord Chief Justice had not only
denied Derrek a fair trial, but had done all he
could to push the jury to convict. Overturning that conviction,
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the appeal judge said, it must be a matter of
profound and continuing regret that this mistrial occurred, and that
the defects we have found were not recognized at the time.
Derek Bentley's remaining family rejoiced, and so did Christopher Craig,
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the gunman on that awful night in nineteen fifty two,
served ten years in prison, and then rehabilitated, lived a quiet,
law abiding life.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Our day does not go by when I do not
think about.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Derek, said a now middle aged for Craig.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Everybody knew that if a policeman dies, somebody asked to
pay for it.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I couldn't. I was underage, and Derek Bentley fitted the bill.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So I had Goddard behaved so abominably and departed so
far from the norms of the courtroom to send hapless
Derek to his death. An obvious answer was that Goddard
wielded immense power whilst also possessing a bullish and bullying personality.
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He never doubted his own judgment, nor did he tolerate
others questioning him. That is an awful combination. Others have
claimed that Goddard's obsession with violent physical punishments had a dark, perverse,
even sexual bent. Having teenage boys beaten or hanged gave
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him pleasure. But one must consider a further motive. At
a time when abolition seemed close, Godard pushed so fervently,
so obscenely for Derek's death in a desperate bid to
save hanging if Lord Chief Justice Goddard and Home Secretary
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David maxwell Fife had hoped the killing of the nineteen
year old would bolster the popularity of capital punishment and
stave off calls for its abolition, and they were wronged.
Nearly three thousand angry telegrams had arrived at maxwell Fife's office,
and the switchboard had been inundated with telephone calls. Many
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ordinary people were clearly appalled by the hanging. Abolitionists noted
this public unease, and Derek's death was cited as a
prime reason why punishment should now cease.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Altogether, I am certain that the execution of that youngster
was more like murder than anything Derek Bentley did himself.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Said one campaigning politician, It.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is absolutely indefensible.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
In the wake of Derek's death, and reacting to public anger,
the government changed how the death penalty was imposed, but
these reforms failed to appeal to the common sense of
ordinary citizens. A burglar who beat a homeowner to death
would hang. A rapist who murdered his victim would not
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face the death penalty. If someone poisoned you, they'd due time,
but if they shot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You, they'd be executed.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Killing a prison guard triggered the death penalty, but murdering
a child did not. Death sentences were passed on fewer
and fewer occasions, and it became harder and harder to
argue that hanging was in any way a deterrent to criminals.
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In August nineteen sixty four, a couple of petty criminals
who'd stabbed a man during an attempted robbery were hanged
on the same day. In other grislier cases, killer's lives
had been spared, so many people were surprised that these
two hangings had been allowed to go ahead. They would
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turn out to be the last. Goddard was by then
in retirement, but even on his very last day in court,
he had been sending business the Hangman's way. Albert Pierpoint
had also retired. Before the abolition of his trade. Hid
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long combined stretching necks with pulling points, but now committed
himself full time to running a pub.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And tending bar.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Gave him time to reflect on his previous occupation.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
If death were a deterrant, I might be expected to know.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
He wrote in his memoirs.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I do not now believe that any one of the
hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way
acted as a deterrant against future murder. Capital punishment, in
my view, achieved nothing except revenge.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
For a full list of our sources, see the show
notes at Timharford dot com. Cautionary Tales is written by
me Tim Harford with Andrew Wright, Alice Fines, and Ryan Dilly.
It's produced by Georgia Mills and Marilyn Rust. The sound
design and original music are the work of Pascal Wise.
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Additional sound design is by Carlos San Juan at Brain
Audio Bend.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
The daff Haffrey edited the scripts.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The show features the voice talents of Melanie Guttridge, Stella Harford,
Oliver Hembrough, Sarah Jupp, massaam Monroe, Alfred Warren, Jamal Westman
and rufus Wright. The show also wouldn't have been possible
without the work of Jacob Weisberg, Greta Cohne, Sarah Nix,
Eric Sandler, Carrie Brody, Christina Sullivan, Kira Posey and Owen Miller.
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Pushkin, Derek Bentley towered over the guards pacing beside him
in the exercise yard of London's Wandsworth Prison. Derek was
broader than his warders too. He was a physically imposing
nineteen year old with the look of a weightlifter or
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a boxer. The prisoner's shock of yellow hair, worn long
and combed back, as was the teen fashion in nineteen
fifty three, danced in the cold winter breeze. Occasionally, smoke
from a cigarette would blow back into Derek's eyes, making
him WinCE. But despite his bulk, a visitor to the jail,
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looking down at the scene and carefully sizing Bentley up,
saw something childlike in the convict.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
In his great prison clause, he looked like a schoolboy
dressed for some classroom charade.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The prison doctors agreed. Since his arrest the previous November,
they had subjected Derek to a battery of tests. The
results revealed a low IQ, a dearth of literacy skills,
and the developmental age god of nineteen but more like
that of a child of eleven or twelve. The prisoner
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was deemed to be, in the parlance of the time,
borderline feeble minded. In truth. There were many things that
Derek Bentley didn't understand, but the most pressing was why
he was in prison awaiting execution. He had broken into
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a warehouse, and during the course of that crime, a
policeman had been shot dead, but Derek hadn't held the gun.
Was already under arrest when the fatal shot rang out.
The murderer, a sixteen year old named Christopher Craig, had
been found guilty of the actual killing, but he wasn't
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going to hang. It all confused Derek Bentley. Why was
he the one to die. Derek's family didn't think he
should hang either. The trial jury had asked for the
death penalty not to be imposed, so there seemed to
be hoped that the authorities would heed this appeal for clemency. Indeed,
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so certain were the Bentless that he'd be freed, they'd
wrapped Christmas presents for Derek, a tie and a box
of chocolates, and placed them under the family tree. You
can open them when you get home, was the implication.
But as December gave way to January and the date
of his execution drew near, the man who held Derrek's
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fate in his hands home Secretary David Maxwell Fife was
in no mood to show leniency. A petition by more
than two hundred members of Parliament, plus protests outside Downing
Street and government offices, and finally, Maxwell Fife's own home
hadn't yet prompted the cabinet minister to change his mind.
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On the evening before his son's scheduled execution, William Bentley
led that noisy rally outside the politician's Smart London apartment.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Bentley is not sleeping tonight, said William of his boy
Anira Shall Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What the newspapers and radio were a buzz with these
last minute moves. Political leaders, among the men who'd held
senior legal positions, beseeched Her Majesty the Queen to intervene
in a case that they said out of accord with
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natural justice. So at one minute to nine on the
morning of January twenty eighth, when a well dressed man
burst into the condemned cell, Derek Bentley assumed that this
was legal counsel bringing word of a reprieve. Derek stood
to receive the good news. The two prison officers who
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were his constant shadow, rose too. Then Derek noticed something
peculiar in the stranger's hands was a loop of yellow leather. Swiftly,
this was passed over Derek's wrists, finding them tightly behind
his back. The man in the suit was no lawyer.
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This was Albert Pierpoint, England's chief hangman. If there was
to be a reprieve, it had better happen soon. I'm
Tim Harford and you're listening to another cautionary tale. Let's
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go back three months to November the two, nineteen fifty two.
It's Sunday evening and darkness has fallen on a cold
and grizzly day. Wiser Britons would seek to be safe
beside a fire on such a night, but that wasn't
the sort of evening Derek Bentley had in mind. Instead,
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he was out with his friend Christopher Craig, a sixteen
year old whom Derek called Kid or Kiddo. By rights,
Derek shouldn't have been hanging around with the younger boy
at his age. He should have been conscripted into the military,
but the authorities took one look at Derek and decided
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he was too mentally substandard to complete compulsory service. Despite
his size, Derek was always thought by his teachers to
be sheeplike and timid. When truancy and petty crime landed
him in reform school, it was noted that his lack
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of intelligence prevents him from joining in many of the
indoor games, and he is by no means a sportsman.
When tested, Derek's low IQ placed him in the bottom
one percent of the population. Today, someone like Derek would
be said to have special needs and would we'd hope
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have those needs met. But the language used to describe
Derek back then was brutal and sympathy for him limited.
One expert pleaded that he be sent as far away
from home as possible to a school for subnormals. Derek,
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who also suffered fits and seizures, fared little better in
the world of work. He took a job moving furniture,
but his back gave out. A career as a garbage
collector was also brief. Within weeks, he was demoted to
sweeping the streets and then fired Altogether mocked, rejected, and belittled,
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The team then retreated to the security of the Bentley
family home. But on this dank November Sunday evening, Derek
ventured away from the warmth of the hearth to catch
a bus that would take him on a terrible misadventure.
His choice of companion was his first mistake of that evening.
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Christopher Craig had ambitions to be a gangster. His older brother, Niven,
had just begun a twelve year prison sentence for a
shocking armed home invasion. Christopher had angrily watched his brother
be convicted and learned a lesson, But it was not
that crime doesn't pay. Instead, he decided that you shouldn't
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ever let yourself be caught.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Still seething with.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Resentment, Christopher hopped onto that southbound bus carrying a forty
five Revolver in his pocket, a relic of World War One.
The pistol's barrel had been shortened to make it easier
to conceal. Its power and accuracy were further reduced because
Christopher had struggled to find the right ammunition. All of
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the cartridges were intended for a smaller gun. Still, the
weight of the firearm in his pocket, no doubt, pleased Christopher,
making him feel like the Hollywood gangster of his phantasies,
and he'd need that swagger the job he had in mind.
The younger boy had dared Derek to join him breaking
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into a local butcher's shop. Derek was already carrying a
small knife, but as their bus chugged towards their target,
Christopher gave his friend a fearsome knuckle duster too.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The robbery was a bust.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Somebody was in the butcher's shop, but Christopher spotted a
new opportunity the nearby warehouse of a candy company. Christopher
scaled its gate, hoping to break in via the roof.
Derek trailed behind. But they've been spotted. Constables from the
nearby police station qui, we had them surrounded. Perhaps more
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athletic than his colleagues, Detective Constable Fred Fairfax was the
first to climb the roof via a drain pipe in
the gloom, He saw the boys scurry into hiding and
called on them to surrender.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If you want us fuck you welcome and get us,
replied Christopher.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Perhaps enraged by such impertinence, the constable rushed the burglars
and grabbed hold of Derek before the youth broke free.
It's here that eyewitness accounts differ. Derek denied shouting anything.
A version of events backed by Christopher, the other policeman
heard nothing or thought the shout came at a slightly
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different moment, but Fairfax was certain as he tussled with
the hulking nineteen year old Derek yelled, let him have it, Chris.
But was Derek simply pleading for his partner in crime
to surrender the pistol he was now brandishing.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let him have it, Chris. Or was Derek.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Channeling his inner James Cagney and growling for his friend
to open fire.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Let him have it, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Christopher's opening shot hit Fairfax, grazing his upper arm. Undaunted,
the officer grabbed Derek again and used the boy as
a shield while he ran for cover. As more officers
closed in, Christopher continued his fusal hard. He also kept
up a barrage of taunts.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Come on, you brave propers.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Think of you what I am Craig, You just give
it my brother twelve years Come on, you proppers, I'm
only sixty. Two of these coppers had made it into
the warehouse and were taking the stairs.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Up to a door leading to the roof.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Police Constable Sydney Miles kicked it open and burst out
into the night. A bullet struck him between the eyes,
killing him instantly. Cautionary tales returns in a moment. There
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was widespread revulsion at the murder of Sydney Miles. This
is not England, said the vicar at Sydney's funeral, the.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
England for which men and women have laid down their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Sydney's coffin was topped by his police helmet and a
wreath from his wife. Officers from across the country were there.
Senior officials too, including the man ultimately responsible for law
and order, the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife. The shooting
on that warehouse roof unnerved the nation, partly because it
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was so unusual the number of times a year guns
were fired in London robberies. You could count them on
the fingers of one hand. And yes, the murder rate
was rising, but from its lowest point for centuries. After
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his initial attempt to flee, Derek Bentley had meekly stood
with the police, seemingly accepting his detention, but Christopher Craig
had continued to exchange shots with armed police until his
supply of ammunition exhausted.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It flung himself from the rooftop.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Though badly injured, he survived the fall, unrepentantly telling the
arresting officer.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I wish I killed a ducking enough.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Given such violence and such brazenness, its little wonder that
some people wanted to see an example made of these
teen criminals. The topic even came up when Sir Charles Hardy,
one of the most famous businessmen of the day, lunched
with a certain Baron Goddard. The uncompromising Goddard, who basked
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in the nickname the Tiger, told his dining companion that
Bentley and Craig had to be found guilty.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Such of you might not seem so remarkable given public anger.
In nineteen fifty two, only Goddard was the Lord Chief
Justice of England, the most senior judge in the land,
and h just appointed himself to oversee the trial. William
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Edgar Reyner Goddard seems to have been a lifelong fan
of the hangman. As a pupil at one of England's
most exclusive private schools, he was said to recite word
for word the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The sentence of the court is that you be taken
from this place to a lawful prison, and thence to
a place of execution.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was said to be Goddard's party piece, preferred to
telling a joke or singing a song, and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That you may be hanged by the neck until you
be dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
As an adult, he remained an enthusiastic supporter of violent punishments,
meeting out whippings and beatings for lesser offenses and hangings
for more serious crimes. However, his elevation to the highest
level of the judiciary came at a time that such
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views were being challenged. Following World War II, an election
swept the anti hanging Labor Party into power, and many
of the new socialist politicians taking their seats in the
House of Commons were young servicemen returning from war, sick
perhaps of violence. These elected politicians voted to end hanging
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only for the unelected lords in the Upper Chamber, where
Baron Goddard sat, to overrule them. This sparked a constitutional crisis.
The lords weren't supposed to defy the Commons, but a
compromise was reached. A special commission would thoroughly review how
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the death penalty was administered.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So thoroughly, in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Fact, that the report would take four whole years to complete,
so hanging was reprieved, much to Goddard's delight. He threatened
to resign as Lord Chief Justice whenever the repeal of
the death penalty looked imminent. But with the political tide
clearly shifting against execution, Goddard thought it was time for
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the justices beneath him to hand down death sentences whenever possible.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I advise all judges to harden their hearts.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The joint trial of Derrek Bentley and Christopher Craig took
place at the Central Criminal Court, London's famous Old Bailey.
The prosecution case against the sixteen year old Christopher was
clear he'd fired the fatal shot. Derek, it was argued,
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was also a murderer because he had known Christopher was armed,
and furthermore, had verbally encouraged him to open fire. Derek
denied knowing anything about the pistol until it was drawn
on Detective Fairfax, but the jury was told this version
of events was almost inconceivable.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I should think you would come to the conclusion that
the first thing almost Craig would tell him if they
were going on a shop breaking expedition, was it's all right?
I got a revolver with me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
This bold statement, not backed up by any evidence, was
made not by the prosecutor, no, but by the judge,
Tiger Goddard. From the outset the seventy five year old
in his red robes and ceremonial Wig seems to have
made good on his pledge that the pair would be
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found guilty at all costs. A judge's role at trial
is complex, but the bedrock of their duty is to
explain to jurors that the onus is on the prosecution
to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. But at Derek
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Bentley's trial, Goddard didn't bother to explain what reasonable doubt meant.
He did mention that it was for the prosecution to
make their case and not for the defendants to prove
their innocence, but he did so in a single sentence,
adding grumply that he considered that such a reminder.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Was hardly necessary.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But don't be fooled into thinking Godard wasn't keen to
address the twelve men in the jury box. He was
with both defendants, denying that Derek had said let him
have it, Chris. The jury only had the slightly confused
testimony of the police witnesses to go on. Instead of
pointing out that police officers don't have some special status
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as accurate and reliable witnesses, Goddard drew a direct link
between the gallantry and resolution of the constables on the
rooftop that night and their evidence to the court.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They were conspicuously brave. Are you going to say they
are conspicuous liars?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's quite something for a judge to tell a jury,
given public outrage about the murder of a police constable.
Goddard's other duty was to tamp down emotions in his
courtroom and encourage the jurors to weigh the facts as
presented and not let any personal prejudices or feelings of
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disgust or anger cloud their decisions. But instead, Goddard indulged
in court room theatrics of the most stunning kind. At
one point, he asked for the weapons found on Derek
Bentley to be passed to him.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Where is that knuckle duster? Have you ever seen a
more horrible sort of weapon? You grasp it here, your
fingers go through. I cannot quite get mine through. And
you've got a dreadful heavy steel bar to strike anybody
with and you can kill a person with this, of course,
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it is a shocking weapon.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Goddard then held aloft small knife taken from Bentley, which
he emotively referred to.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
As a dagger.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
What is he carrying that with him for?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Godard didn't answer his own question, perhaps because one plausible
response is that Derek Bentley had absolutely no plans to
use the weapons. Derek was being tried an accessory in
joint enterprise. It's clear that he was in a joint
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enterprise with his younger friend to rob the warehouse. He
had scaled a gate and climbed atop the roof. Once
discovered by Detective Fairfax. Derek had tried to run away,
arguably in a joint enterprise, to evade arrest, but then
quickly gave up that effort. Was the joint enterprise now
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at an end? Long before the murder of Constable Miles.
Though armed with a knife and knuckle duster, Derek made
no attempt to assault the policeman holding him, and as
Christopher Craig kept up his angry, foul mouth taunting of
the police, Derek stood meekly and quietly, occasionally expressing concern
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for the officer's safety.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You want to look out, you'll blow your heads off.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
When Fairfax left his prisoner's side for a moment, Derek
made no fresh attempt to bolt or rejoin his armed comrade.
If indeed Derek had said let him have it, Chris,
for those words to have earned him a guilty verdict,
it wouldn't have mattered how they sounded to the teen gunman,
nor to the police, only that Derek had intended them
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as an incitement to open fire. But Derek's demeanor during
his detainment was passive and acquiescent. The teen described as
timid and sheep like all his life and with no
history of violence, might easily have meant for Christopher Craig
to surrender his pistol and accept his lawful arrest. It's
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certainly a possibility the jurors should have considered. Just before
the jury retired to consider their verdict, Godard, having praised
the prosecution case Fulseoen, mocked the defendant.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Bentley's defense is I didn't know he had a gun,
and I deny that I said let him have it, Chris.
I never knew he was going to shoot, and I
didn't think he would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The jurymen filed out to begin deliberations, ringing in their
ears an exhortation from the highest judge in the land
that they should use their common sense. They took just
seventy five minutes to find both defendants guilty. Christopher Craig
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wouldn't hang, he was too young, and since there was
a precedent that if a killer didn't hang, an accomplice
wouldn't either, the jury asked that Derek's life be spared too.
Goddard ignored their plea and recited the death penalty memorized
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at school. Derek would hang by the neck until.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Dead, and may the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
The Lord Chief Justice had told his fellow judges that
it wasn't their job to show pity to the prisoners
in their dock.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
For said Goddard, in other and higher hands, mercy may
be extended.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So the Lord Chief Justice, having passed a death sentence,
sat down to write a letter to a higher hand,
the Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fife, the only man who
could now save Derek from the hangman's noose. Cautionary tales
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will be back after the break. In the early morning
January Gloom, a crowd stood at the gates of Wandsworth Prison,
wrapped up against the cold, they sang hymns and recited psalms.
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There still seemed hope for Derek Bentley, even inside the
prison where he was making his final macabre preparations and calculations.
Hangman Albert Pierpoint wasn't sure his services would be required.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
After all, the possibility of a last minute reprieve still
hung in the air stronger than I have ever known it.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
At the very heart of government there was, in fact
a mood to show mercy. The most senior officials in
the Home Office advised David Maxwell Fife to intervene to
spare Derek's life, but the Home Secretary was taking his
advice from Barn.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I could find no mitigating circumstances in Bentley's case. I
am convinced that he is a most dangerous criminal.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
In his own verdict on the case, which he called
a very bad murder, Maxwell five said it would be
dangerous to let Derek live, since that might encourage similar
attacks on unarmed police. Given public anxiety about violent crime,
he decreed that Derek must hang at eight point fifty
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nine a m in the condemned cell peer Point was
now standing so close to Derek Bentley that he could
talk to the boy in a whisper.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Just follow me, lad, It's all right, Derek, Just follow me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Peer Point had conducted hundreds of executions and found that
moving quietly and calmly but at speed encouraged compliance from
the condemned. He feared that if Derek resisted, the powerfully
built team could cause havoc. But sheep like to the end,
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Derek meekly followed Pierpoint into the adjoining execution chamber. The
guards didn't even have to guide him. Derek helpfully stood
on chalk marks drawn on the wooden trap door as
Pierpoint gently placed first a white hood and then a
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noose over the boy's head. The executioner stepped over to
a lever that opened the doors. Beneath Derek's feet, an
assistant was tying the boy's legs together. When he was done,
he gave Pierpoint the agreed signal. The crowd booed as
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a prison official came out to post two notices. One
declared that Derek's execution had taken place before witnesses. The
other certified that a surgeon had examined the body and
deemed life to be extinct. The two pieces of paper
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were pinned inside a glazed display case, which someone in
the crowd promptly smashed.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I've murdered an innocent boy.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Cried one protester, as others pelted prison officers and policemen
with coins.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's murder, it's ard up.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He's heard up. So.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Just eighty seven days after the shot that killed police
Constable Miles, Derek Bentley too was dead. The Bentley family,
anything but meek or timid, fought on demanding a posthumous pardon.
When Derek's parents died, his sister Iris devoted herself to
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the cause.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'm not the sort of person who gives in. I'll
never never give up.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
When I die, I want that piece of paper that
pardon put with me in my coffin.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Iris was buried in nineteen ninety eight, but without Derek's pardon.
Beside her cruelly, a ruling by the Court of Appeal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Was not far off.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Few people had previously had the courage to contradict Godard,
even after his death in nineteen seventy one, but the
appeal judge was shocked by his handling of Derrek's case.
He concluded that the Lord Chief Justice had not only
denied Derrek a fair trial, but had done all he
could to push the jury to convict. Overturning that conviction,
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the appeal judge said, it must be a matter of
profound and continuing regret that this mistrial occurred, and that
the defects we have found were not recognized at the time.
Derek Bentley's remaining family rejoiced, and so did Christopher Craig,
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the gunman on that awful night in nineteen fifty two,
served ten years in prison, and then rehabilitated, lived a quiet,
law abiding life.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Our day does not go by when I do not
think about.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Derek, said a now middle aged for Craig.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Everybody knew that if a policeman dies, somebody asked to
pay for it.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I couldn't. I was underage, and Derek Bentley fitted the bill.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So I had Goddard behaved so abominably and departed so
far from the norms of the courtroom to send hapless
Derek to his death. An obvious answer was that Goddard
wielded immense power whilst also possessing a bullish and bullying personality.
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He never doubted his own judgment, nor did he tolerate
others questioning him. That is an awful combination. Others have
claimed that Goddard's obsession with violent physical punishments had a dark, perverse,
even sexual bent. Having teenage boys beaten or hanged gave
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him pleasure. But one must consider a further motive. At
a time when abolition seemed close, Godard pushed so fervently,
so obscenely for Derek's death in a desperate bid to
save hanging if Lord Chief Justice Goddard and Home Secretary
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David maxwell Fife had hoped the killing of the nineteen
year old would bolster the popularity of capital punishment and
stave off calls for its abolition, and they were wronged.
Nearly three thousand angry telegrams had arrived at maxwell Fife's office,
and the switchboard had been inundated with telephone calls. Many
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ordinary people were clearly appalled by the hanging. Abolitionists noted
this public unease, and Derek's death was cited as a
prime reason why punishment should now cease.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Altogether, I am certain that the execution of that youngster
was more like murder than anything Derek Bentley did himself.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Said one campaigning politician, It.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Is absolutely indefensible.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
In the wake of Derek's death, and reacting to public anger,
the government changed how the death penalty was imposed, but
these reforms failed to appeal to the common sense of
ordinary citizens. A burglar who beat a homeowner to death
would hang. A rapist who murdered his victim would not
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face the death penalty. If someone poisoned you, they'd due time,
but if they shot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You, they'd be executed.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Killing a prison guard triggered the death penalty, but murdering
a child did not. Death sentences were passed on fewer
and fewer occasions, and it became harder and harder to
argue that hanging was in any way a deterrent to criminals.
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In August nineteen sixty four, a couple of petty criminals
who'd stabbed a man during an attempted robbery were hanged
on the same day. In other grislier cases, killer's lives
had been spared, so many people were surprised that these
two hangings had been allowed to go ahead. They would
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turn out to be the last. Goddard was by then
in retirement, but even on his very last day in court,
he had been sending business the Hangman's way. Albert Pierpoint
had also retired. Before the abolition of his trade. Hid
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long combined stretching necks with pulling points, but now committed
himself full time to running a pub.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And tending bar.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Gave him time to reflect on his previous occupation.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
If death were a deterrant, I might be expected to know.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
He wrote in his memoirs.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I do not now believe that any one of the
hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way
acted as a deterrant against future murder. Capital punishment, in
my view, achieved nothing except revenge.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
For a full list of our sources, see the show
notes at Timharford dot com. Cautionary Tales is written by
me Tim Harford with Andrew Wright, Alice Fines, and Ryan Dilly.
It's produced by Georgia Mills and Marilyn Rust. The sound
design and original music are the work of Pascal Wise.
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Additional sound design is by Carlos San Juan at Brain
Audio Bend.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
The daff Haffrey edited the scripts.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The show features the voice talents of Melanie Guttridge, Stella Harford,
Oliver Hembrough, Sarah Jupp, massaam Monroe, Alfred Warren, Jamal Westman
and rufus Wright. The show also wouldn't have been possible
without the work of Jacob Weisberg, Greta Cohne, Sarah Nix,
Eric Sandler, Carrie Brody, Christina Sullivan, Kira Posey and Owen Miller.
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Cautionary Tales is a production of Pushkin Industries. It's recorded
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.