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December 11, 2025 20 mins

It's the end of an era! Listen to this episode to find out Katie & Rach's big announcement.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Appogia Production.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Podcast?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I was talking to a friend, another mom this morning,
and she was like, oh, twenty twenty five can kiss
my ass.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
She's just like, I'm over it. I'm done. I want
the new year.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
And we were talking about how this year for twenty
twenty five has been, like they say, the year of
the snake, and it's a form of shedding that everyone's doing,
like the shedding of the skin of the snake.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
To then go into the new year for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, although I feel like everyone was saying the same
sort of thing back in two thousand and nineteen. Oh
and then COVID we went into twenty twenty. Everyone was like, yeah,
remember that if ooh yeah, yeah twenty, Like this is.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Gonna be the year.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Bam.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It was a horrible year. It was horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I mean, you lived your best life in twenty twenty. Yeah,
just in your trackies, just around the house.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh yeah, happy.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
She was so happy.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I was in my element. Oh yeah, I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I've said so many times before. But on a stage
of Pala Jay would announce a quick snap lockdown I'd
get all excited.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I could do a quick dan.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Run to the bottle shop and that was all we
got to be home by for like there was going
to be someone out on the street checking and then
wild never was. Remember there was all that talk of like, oh,
the military will be on the streets making so everyone
stays in.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I remember so many times being like, oh, here we go.
I'm gonna get in trouble by the police because I'd
be sitting, like at a coffee shop that was open,
but when I'd sit down, but I was sitting on
the edge of the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
And there were so many of those moments. Yeah, and
then sometimes be able to go to a bar, but
you weren't allowed to dance. Remember we went to a
birthday We went to a fortieth birthday party.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
And we almost forced her to turn it into a
wedding because the restrictions at that particular time was if
it was a wedding, you were allowed to have dancing,
but only for a certain amount of time.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
And so we tried to convince her.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Husband that'd be married forever yeah, to just get remarried
on her fortieth birthday so that we could dance.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, And I remember like I remember, there'd be moments
of dancing, then someone would be like no dancing.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
We'd been like this is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
The stories of twenty twenty twenty twenty five is coming
to a close.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, so we've been alluding on our at am I
Bad Mum social media and our personal ones that there
is an announcement coming today.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
We're hanging up the lunch boxes.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, we have decided, so just say it. We've decided
to finish am I a Bad Mum podcast. This is
such a weird one because I was driving in this
morning and I felt quite emotional. I think for me,
it's got to the point where my kids in twenty

(03:17):
twenty six turn eighteen, so they're going.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
To be adult. They're out of here. They already.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
For the last couple of years have been a little
bit over the podcast. Oh I really do have to
keep bitching and moaning about us.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's like, don't give me anything to bitch and moan about.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
A lovely podcast, but I think for me it felt
a bit like twenty twenty six was a good year
to wrap up the podcast. We've had such a good run.
We love the people that listen.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
When we think about what the journey of the podcast is.
And we don't want to sit too long on this
because we've got some good stuff in here. It was
the start of twenty eighteen. My girls were like three
and five. I've got tweens now, and like your girls
also were like my kid's age. Like, that's where we've come.
That's what we've gone through. We've gone through the tantrums,
we've gone through the tweens. We've gone through the phones

(04:12):
and the iPads and that you name, anything to do
with parenting. And I think what this podcast is really
like when I think about it as well, what this
podcast has done is like allowed us space to basically
talk and share in a reflective sense everything across the
board to do with parenting. Everything, right, this podcast allows

(04:32):
you to see exactly what people don't put on Instagram. Yeah,
this is real, right, this is raw. And the part
that I love is that our community of amazing listeners
is that we're all in it together.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, when we first started this podcast, it's all
about we're all on the same bus. Yeah, both in brain,
whatever the form of transport you wanted to be taking,
that's what.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
We're on together.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I think about it and just go Like that
journey for me in particular, like I can only speak
from my feelings, is just made that part of parenting
like it's hard and it's only going to get harder.
I get, I understand that, but it has made it
just that little bit easier.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Just having a community behind you, knowing.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
That your reflective over sharing in a podcast is helping
other parents go, oh yeah, cool, we're not in it alone.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think that, And I think even the like the
worst things we've done, like that moment of getting to
the school playground and picking the kids up and remembering
that you forgot their lunch box, ye, Or my girls
used to be like, Mum, we were waiting here, it's
almost dark. Yeah, ye, you haven't picked it up yet.
And I'm so sorry I had so much on Yeah.

(05:40):
The fact that everybody else has been doing that stuff
as well. I mean, I'm still yet to come across
anyone that's given their kids a sausage smoothie like you
did that once, thinking it was frozen banana. It was sausage, Drake,
your smoothie. Haven't come across anyone else that's done that yet.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
But I'm so busy. I'm just not thinking straight, And
that is exactly it.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
It is the highlights, right, there's high highlights, there's low lights,
and there's fucking everything else in between.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And yeah, it's been hell of a ride, hell of
a ride. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
But you know, as we have done in this show,
we have spent what seven and a half years talking
about our children.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
So the final episode, we've decided that the kids can
finally have their say.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, So I text my girls. I haven't seen them.
They got home really late last night and then they
left really early this morning because they're camping for concerts.
So I just sent them a message saying, could you
give me some answers to some of these questions. So
the first one is if mum had a warning label,
what would it say? Holly says, warning health freak. I'm

(06:51):
always banging on to my kids about water, make healthy choices,
like who work?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Hidding? I drink too much alcohol.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And the next question is what is Mum's most used saying.
My most you saying is you're tired. It's literally my
answer to I have a glass of water. Yeah, either
have a glass of water, put a band aid on it.
You're tired. They are three sentences that answer any question

(07:19):
anything asked by your children. What is the funniest thing
mam has ever told you off for going one kilometer
over the speed limit? Mate, I don't make the road
rules and you're learning to drive us.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
It's so relevant right now. Yeah, yeah, that's so relevant
to your family right now. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And the argument rate the argument I have from a
meal I said to her the other day, Amelia, people
four years and years and years have put research into
making sure that we are safe on the roads and
what rules need to be put into place to make
sure we all drive safely. Only four one teenager to

(08:02):
decide that it's all wrong and she's going to make the.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Rules because she knows everything. She knows everything, She knows everything.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
If mum was a school subject, what would it be
the health class? What's something mum thinks she's cool lat
but she's actually not her music taste?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's a big call.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I like my music taste.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
The final one is I said, do you have anything
else to add? For the last episode of Am I
a bad mum? Amelia says that you're not a bad mum,
but sometimes you are. I said, what about all the
stories we've told, She said, I haven't listened to the podcast.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Thank you, thank.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
You for all about seven years of hard work. I'll
give you a little snippet of graces.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Gracie, say this is your chair.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
As the podcast wraps up, we're going to do a
lightning round of questions, perfect for you to have your
final say on the last episode of Am I a
Bad Mum?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Okay? You ready? Okay? Mom's best quality? Dost quality? Mean again? Okay? Skip,
that's great. Mom's worst habit You say that you'll do
a job and then you move on to another one.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Okay, Well, Mom is happiest when when.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
She has Margarina in her hands, just hanging out with
us in the backyard. Mom's crankiest when when we don't
help her out when the dad's away. It's Mom's secret
superpower when.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
She can do some stuff in the click of a finger,
and when she's so kind and generous and she doesn't
even get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
That's very true. Thank you. One word to describe Mom
one magical, because she can do anything.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
All right. That's because it still went on for another
whole minute.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Okay, okay, So then we'll give Elsie's a crack and
I'll see Saday.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
You're in the hot seat as we wrap up, and
I hate our dad.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Mum, I've got some quick questions for you, all right.
Moms best quality definitely making everything fun okay great. Mum's
worst habit definitely your big fat.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Mum's happiest when after you have coffee, okay, Mum's crankiest
when when you haven't gone to the gym.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Mum's secret superpower and one word only to describe me.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
What is your message to the future you when you.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Were a parent, Drink coffee, go the gym and just
be like my mum out without the really discussing fart.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
We didn't know that about you.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Who knew that rates is a bit.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Of a voter.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I gave her an option to be able to roast
me and she's gone with the fat option.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, okay, so good, and this is not new. We
knew already your two favorite things coffee and margaritas.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Good advice would you give mum as in me for
the next ten years of parenting you?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You need to calm down.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
You Just.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Honestly, between the two of my children, I have to
thank them for providing endless amounts of content, as do
your girls, providing some wild content along the way.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it'd be really interesting to have a look. I'm
going to have a look at how many episodes we've
had over the years. And I think the other thing
that I would like to say too, is when we
first started this podcast, we actually didn't know each other
that well. No, and I would like to thank you
Rach for for the friendship that has built over the years.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
And I'm so grateful for you.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh thanks. I feel the same way.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
And you know, we laugh about it in the safe space,
but every week you've provided me a safe space with microphones.
But it is genuinely your company and your friendship that
backs that safe space in order for me to be
able to open up and be able to share with
you some of the craziest shit that has actually happened
in my life, in my kids' lives as well. So
I thank you as well because I have learned lots

(12:20):
from you, and I have learned lots of amazing tricks
and tips from you about parenting.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I mean the power of a stapler when yeah kids,
hem has come down in dress like.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I've used it. I've used it. You upgraded me in
the world of dance.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
You got me on the straight and narrow of like
where I'm meant to be, not Wooly's bags.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, from the dance outfit in just the plastic bag
to the actual You've got the whole whole thing.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
You're the whole setup.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, the garment bags, you name it, we have got it.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I'm also broke, so that's fine as well.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
We all are.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
We all are have kids.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
They said it will be.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Fun, and you right, we're sad, but we're excited. Yeah,
we're happy, but we're looking forward to what's next.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I just want to add as well, Like in the
lead up, even driving in today, I was like, are
we doing the right thing?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah? Is this what we want?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Should we keep carrying on?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Am I bad?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like, even right up to like doing this episode, I've
questioned it.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I'm like, this is what we should Well, you and
I have been procrastinating on this for the year. Yeah,
and we've come up with hurdles against our kids basically.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Of like, Mum, you can't share that on the podcast,
and you can't share.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
This, even though I sort of go like, but you're
helping other people at the end of the day, like
it's sharing a story can help others, like we've done
plenty of that. At the same time, you've got to
sort of way up what our kids also want out
there and shared.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
And your girls are about to flick the switch on
being kids into next stage of life, which leads us
to here. Next year, we're stepping into a brand new
space and Katie is not pregnant, just for the record,
following up from another podcast, Oh God, no Ah, and
we're changing shape and we're in a new space with.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
A new podcast.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yes, so yeah, we I mean, we've been and tears
and it's almost like we're never going to see each
other again, but we are because this podcast is coming
to an end, but a new podcast is being born.
And so for twenty twenty six, we are announcing our
new podcast, who.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Even Are We?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
The next chapter of us is all about the chaos,
the conversations, the identity shifts of women in our age
group friendships, the big questions, the very ordinary moments that
still make us laugh and cry no matter where we're Atah,
within our stage, we'll still use the old stages and
ages yep. And there'll be a flicker of parenting in

(14:58):
there as well, because fuck, we can't get away from it.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We're opening up the podcast to be a bit broader.
So we have had moments of talking about needing blinkers
when going into the post office because I get sidetracked
and by shit, I don't need like it will be
stuff like that. It will be us, it will be real,
it will be stories. We will still have elements of
parenting in there, but we're opening it up to not

(15:24):
just be about parenting and kids.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
So on that note, we've got a little closing.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
To everyone who has listened, laughed, cried, judged us a
little bit, and reassured us we were never doing this
parenting thing alone.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
When we started, am I a bad mom? Our kids
were tiny, we were tired, and we were just trying
to figure it out one mistake at a time. This
podcast became our permission slip to be imperfect, to be honest,
and to share the parts of parenting people don't put
on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Over the years you grew with us, you heard our
triumphs and our disasters, our mum guilt and our mum winds.
And in the middle of all that chaos, something really
beautiful happened that none of us were actually bad mums.
We're just mums doing our best, and now our kids
are older, louder, and more opinionated and apparently ready to

(16:15):
call us out. So it feels right that this is
where we close this chapter. Endings are really just beginnings
in disguise. So while am I a bad mom?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
See how I'm getting tree? Wow? Am I a bad mom?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Comes to an end today a new story is already
are waiting in the new year, Like we've just said
to you, will be launching a new podcast, who even
are we?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It will still be the two of us.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
It will be the friendship, the honesty, the laughter. But
now we're stepping into everything that comes after the little
kid years aha, the identity shifts, the growing pains, the
new freedoms, and all the completely unfiltered conversations we've held
back until now. So thank you for being a part

(17:00):
of this journey. Thank you for letting us be real.
Thank you for proving that imperfect guarantee is the most
honest kind.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
This isn't goodbye.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
It's just a new era, as Taylor says, and we
cannot wait to show you who we become next year.
And on that note, we're going to wrap because I'm
getting all emotional.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh my goodness, we needed a bowl of Champai shit, No,
there'd be no tears in.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
It's the end of an error.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Am I a bad mom? Is it too early for
a whine?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, I'm going to just say it because that's what
we started on and that is where we're wrapping.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Welcome back to another episode and another week.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, it's Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
It's Wednesday. Am I a bad mom for questioning what is?
Am I a bad mom for questioning what it is?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
The age appropriate?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Fuck?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Not put any of you? Am I a bad mum
for questioning what age is?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Ape?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Am I a bad mom for this is yours? This
pinple on my head?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It's so sore recording.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
That's a good We can put my peace on each other.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm guessing that you have to have some sort of
recovery time between.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, well that's my other bloody blood.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Tell them my shoes is so great. I was like,
how long the.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Other Oh, they've got like no grip at the bottom none.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
How do you ever size in them?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
If you wear them on the treadmill at the gym,
you're going to fucking slide off the treadmill. I'll be like, oh,
how did that lady end up over there? Have you
seen her shoes? That Assurance claim way it happen?

Speaker 5 (19:03):
They're comfortable?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, please don't wear them.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I guess where I got them from? Shut up?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
How do these stocks added us?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
But they did special special, that's quite specular.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Fluffy mornm was around this area.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
I was just trying to.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Tell me something somewhere, but I just looked ginormous. Normous,
just look ginormous.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
We record this the start of widey wear shirts and
are two week for you.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Then if if you're.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Jump me and turn the screen around.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Like looking at myself and my fucking.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Ship outfit, I don't think you look ship.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
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